1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Second date up dated. Imagine getting back on the dating 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: apps after being married for years. 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 2: That would be weird. 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Now what does that look like? 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, my parents? 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: In other words, horror. It's worse than the movie Saw five. 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: And I'm not even talking about the writing in that. 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I forgot. There's like ten of those. 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: Yeah scripts not great. And you're just jumping into a 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: scary new world that maybe you've never even really experienced before. 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: And we've got a woman who recently can involve back 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: into the dating pool and needs a little help from 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: us today. Her name is Vanessa, So Vanessa, welcome to 14 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: the show. 15 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,319 Speaker 4: Thanks guys, thanks for having me on. 16 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 2: It sounds like your experience is more of a belly 17 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: flop than a canniball. 18 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: And we don't know everything about your date yet. Why 19 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: don't we start from the beginning and tell us who's 20 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: this person that you met recently online? 21 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 4: Well, I met a guy on Plenty of Fish and 22 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 4: I am recently divorced. I've been married for years. I 23 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 4: got married very young. 24 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: So had you ever done dating apps prior to this? 25 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 5: Never? 26 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 4: I've been married for a long time, and so I'm 27 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 4: kind of getting out there again and It's terrifying. It 28 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 4: really is. You feel these horrible stories on the news 29 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 4: and you think, oh my god, this person is serial killer? 30 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 4: Is it's too good to be true? 31 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: What kind of dating app are you on? 32 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 5: Though? 33 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: Are you swiping? Or are you like on one of 34 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: those real sophisticated ones where you fill out a bio? 35 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 6: She said plenty of Fish, So I don't know about sophisticated. 36 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. 37 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 4: My friends were like, plenty of Fish is good, and 38 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, so. 39 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,639 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can't believe you actually trust those people. 40 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: But that's interesting. So you met a guy what's his name? 41 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 4: His name is Keith? 42 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 6: Okay, the first guy you've matched with and got out with? 43 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, oh wow wow. 44 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,639 Speaker 1: It's a big, big move. So what attracted you to Keith? 45 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 4: I got a goodbbe from him, and you know, he 46 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 4: likes SAW. He's kind of in a similar situation where 47 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 4: he said he's getting back out there and we talked 48 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 4: a little bit online, so I kind of felt good 49 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 4: about him. 50 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, So how long did it take? I mean, 51 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: I'm assuming you guys met up in real life. 52 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 4: Right, yeah? Yeah? So he was really sweet. He was like, 53 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 4: where do you want to go and I'm like, oh, 54 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 4: that's nice, and so I suggested the botanical gardens. 55 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's funny you said that. I was like ooh, 56 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 3: And then I'm like, I'm the only guy. 57 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 6: That's probably nothing says sexy like some orchids. 58 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: Things get hot by the reflection pool. 59 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: Sure, it is kind of humid in those places. 60 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 4: You didn't have a lot of plants, and his like photos, 61 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 4: and I was just kind of like, well, maybe he 62 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 4: knows about plants, so I thought maybe he would. 63 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 2: Like it too. 64 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 5: Yeah. 65 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: No, definitely spice up the conversation with some exciting plant talk. 66 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: So like a museum. 67 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 7: I mean, I feel like walking is less awkward than 68 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 7: sitting at a bar. 69 00:02:58,960 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 3: Look at this flower. 70 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 4: You know, there's a lot of other people around, and 71 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 4: you got plants. 72 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, because you're worried about the serial killer angle 73 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 6: of it all exactly. 74 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like we're going to a butterfly farm or something. 75 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: This is your first date that you've been on since 76 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: you were married. Yeah, you must have been nervous. How 77 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: did it go? 78 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 4: Well? I mean I was pleasantly surprised. He was dressed 79 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 4: a bit more casually than I was. But we we 80 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 4: strolled around and we discussed flowers, and I gave him 81 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 4: some facts about orchids, even little things that I've learned 82 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 4: over the years, you know, just conversation starters. You know. 83 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: Do you think that you were yourself on the date? 84 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 4: Yeah? 85 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: I do. 86 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 4: I was surprisingly relaxed. I mean I was super nervous 87 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 4: at first, but I calmed down as soon as he like, 88 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 4: you know, I just got a good vibe from him, and. 89 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: You're in like a pleasant environment that you're comfortable with. 90 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: Just right, That's awesome. 91 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 4: I didn't just talk about orchids, well, no, I mean 92 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 4: there was lots of other plants. We talked about a 93 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 4: lot of that, and I mean there was one really 94 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 4: embarrassing moment. He knocked over a decorative like water can thing. 95 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 4: Oh it broke, and I was like in the employees 96 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 4: were like, oh, I was like, oh my gosh. So 97 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 4: I just made a joke that he was like dangerous 98 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 4: to plants, and I'm like hoping he didn't get offended. 99 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 4: I don't know. 100 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: I'm sure. 101 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 7: I'm sure. 102 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 6: So that's the one thing you found that went wrong 103 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 6: with your date, is that you may have offended him 104 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 6: with your plant joke. 105 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm scared that I offended him, but he seems okay. 106 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 4: We sat down and we got tea from the little 107 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 4: stand and the date ended really really well, I thought. 108 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 4: I mean, he walked me to my car, gave me 109 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 4: a hug. I told him, I had a great time. 110 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: This is really wholesome. 111 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a little too wholesome for the show. 112 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 4: I know. I'm a little worry. I'm like, maybe this 113 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 4: is too good to be true, but I mean, we 114 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 4: had a nice time, and I told him, I said, look, 115 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 4: I would love to see you again and just kind 116 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 4: of do something similar or maybe go out to eat 117 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 4: or something like that. But I haven't heard from him, 118 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 4: and I'm just kind of upset right now. 119 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: They have been out of the dating game for a while, 120 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 3: but you have caught up so quickly. You're immediately on 121 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: the apps, and when things go wrong, you come right 122 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 3: to us. That's what everybody does, and it's dating nowadays. 123 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: Good job, Thank you. 124 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 4: I'm just like I said, I'm learning to get back 125 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 4: out there, and I mean it Workeskese scenario. If if 126 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 4: I did screw up, I did do something wrong because 127 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 4: I'm so new to the dating you know game again 128 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 4: that maybe you know, if I made a mistake. I 129 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 4: can learn from it. It could be a learning moment 130 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 4: I can move on and improve. 131 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: That's a good attitude. That's a good positive attitude. 132 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: And even if it doesn't work out with Keith, just 133 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: like your app says, there are plenty of fish out 134 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: there for you to hook up with and discuss orchids with. 135 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 5: Right right, Okay. 136 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: So how long has it been since your botanical garden 137 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: date happened. 138 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 4: It's been like two weeks. 139 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,559 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, that's a long time in the modern dating world. 140 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 7: So it's part of the experience you need to get 141 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 7: ghosted at. 142 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah, you're first ghosting. 143 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly. 144 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: Well, Keith's got some splaining to do, and we're going 145 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: to get him on the line for answers in your 146 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: second date. Right after this second date update, if you're 147 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: just joining us for the second date. We've been talking 148 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: to Vanessa, who, after many years of marriage, recently hopped 149 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: back into the dating world. Yeah, even though she was nervous, 150 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: she went full out. Yes, did all the stereotypical hot 151 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: date things, botanical gardens, cups of herbal tea, even edgy 152 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: plant humor. 153 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. 154 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,239 Speaker 1: Intense, to say the least, but two weeks later, she's 155 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: getting her very first taste of ghosting. Isn't sure? Why now? 156 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: Before we call Keith here, I do want to ask you, Vanessa, 157 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: since you said you were the one who suggested the 158 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: botanical gardens, you think it's possible that Keith maybe wasn't 159 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: as into plant dates as you were. 160 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: She thought that he was just because of his profile picks. 161 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: But maybe he just thought I looked good in that picture. 162 00:06:59,600 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 5: Ye. 163 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: Sure, you know did you pick up a vibe like 164 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: that at all? 165 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean that's a possibility. 166 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 3: Did you know most guys are, but not everyone's a 167 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: flower guy. 168 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, he could see you as a botanical garden lady, 169 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: where he's more of a beer garden type of dude. Yeah, 170 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: maybe we can find a garden somewhere in between to 171 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: send you on your next date. Let's reach out. We're 172 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: going to dial his number right now and hopefully he 173 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: picks up. 174 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 6: Okay, okay, all right, okay, don't let this ruin the 175 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 6: rest of your dating experience. 176 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: One bad egg does not mean they're all rotten. 177 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: Oh I thought you thought you mean us. No, we will. 178 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna try our best. 179 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 5: Here. 180 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm calling him right now. Hello, Hey, we're looking to 181 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: speak with Keith. 182 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 5: This is he who's calling. 183 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: Hey man, this is a radio show called Brook and 184 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: Jeffrey in the Morning. 185 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: Hello. 186 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 5: Oh okay, good morning. Hi. 187 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: We're calling because we're doing this segment. It's called a 188 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: second date update. I don't know if you know about that, 189 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: but it's where if one of our listeners goes out 190 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: with somebody and afterwards they're not getting a call back, 191 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: they can email us to reach out to them and 192 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: try and figure out if there's a reason for that. 193 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 5: Oh my god. 194 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: Come on, it's kind of fun. I mean, who would 195 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: ever think that you'd be called for a reason like this. 196 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 5: I don't even want to ask who's who's the person? 197 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: You don't want to ask? No curiosity. 198 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you should see it as a compliment. It's 199 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: a good thing that they felt so strongly about you 200 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: they reached out to us for help. But in this case, 201 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: it's a woman named Vanessa. 202 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 5: Mmm. Okay, yeah, that's why I didn't want. 203 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: To add what no botanical garden? Vanessa? 204 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, why did you say? 205 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to us to ask listen. 206 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 5: I don't know what she told you, but that woman 207 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 5: she's a freak. 208 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 7: What talking about the same the ones you least expect. 209 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 2: I can't, You're not wrong. 210 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: A freak cow. 211 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 5: I don't want to speak bad on anybody. 212 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 8: But first and foremost, we met up Women's at Plenty 213 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 8: of Fish, and she was deliberately catfishing me with these 214 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 8: these pictures from like ten to fifteen years ago. 215 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 3: Wait, but that's an accident, I understand. 216 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 7: I always think about that when you get back into 217 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 7: dating after that long. How do you have good photos 218 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 7: for an hour? 219 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 6: Because if you were married, there's no way a husband 220 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 6: was taking good nuts of you. 221 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, doing bill on the couch? 222 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: She do you know all of this? Keith about Vanessa 223 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: that it's her first time at least in a long 224 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: time on the dating apps. 225 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 8: No ever, Well, I mean she said she was married 226 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 8: for a good little while, but it was obviously a 227 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 8: longer while than I thought. 228 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: What Wait, are you saying that she was a lot 229 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 2: older than you expected? 230 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 5: The pre made me think we were around the same age. 231 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 5: But honestly, it's that woman could be my mother at 232 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 5: this point, oh. 233 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: Black and white, because that's normally a sign, okay, And 234 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: what part of that turns you off? 235 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, I don't even know you guys. 236 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: He's joking. 237 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 6: I mean, it doesn't ever feel good when you expect 238 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 6: one thing and you get something else when you started dating, right, so, 239 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 6: right at the beginning, you were turned off. 240 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 5: I was shocked, but I'm just like, listen, I'm already 241 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 5: out here. Might as well just go through with it, okay. 242 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: And we ended up going to this botanical garden, right 243 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: we heard that that was actually her idea. But I'm 244 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: more curious about why you said she's a freak. Well 245 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: how did that come up? 246 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: I thought he just meant because of the pictures, But 247 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: is that what you meant? 248 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 3: Could be multiple meetings here? 249 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 8: No, we're walking through the garden and she's just getting aggressive, 250 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 8: like she asking me what kind of pictures do I 251 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 8: want from her? 252 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 5: And she keeps going on about it, and I'm like, 253 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 5: it's okay, I don't need anything. 254 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 3: What Oh she wanted a hot picture? 255 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 4: Oh? 256 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: But she's asking what ones that she can send. 257 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 8: To you apparently, but I don't know if there's gonna 258 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 8: be fifteen years old too or what. 259 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice of her to ask what you like. 260 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 7: It does take worse. 261 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like, do you want one side or do 262 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: you want both of them? 263 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 6: It's an awkward it's an awkward assumption that anyone wants 264 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 6: them period. I mean, you're at the botanical gardens in 265 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 6: the daytime, totally sober. 266 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. 267 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 8: And I told her I don't need any of that, 268 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 8: and she made this weird comment. 269 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 5: She was like, oh, you want the real thing? 270 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 3: Oh oh wow. 271 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: Okay, she was married for a long time. Maybe she's 272 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: like living out. 273 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 3: What she didn't get to do before. 274 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: Or maybe she thinks that this is how dating works now, 275 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 2: you know. 276 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's trying it out. 277 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 5: It's one thing to be trying it out. 278 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 8: But she literally suggested they had this little plant shop 279 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 8: in the garden, and she suggested we go behind it 280 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 8: and do things. 281 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 3: Oh wow, is. 282 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: Vanessa? Dude? 283 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: I would have been mortified. 284 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: I did not get that vibe from her when we 285 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: were talking to her before. 286 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: How did you even respond? 287 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 8: I had no time to respond. She was like, there's 288 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 8: nobody in the women's restroom. 289 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: And that was all a turn off to you. 290 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it was that. 291 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 8: And then having to sit down and drink tea casually 292 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 8: after that, oh wow? 293 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 6: After you like Loki rejected her awkward eye contact the 294 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 6: entire time. 295 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: Okay, well, the good news is you won't have to 296 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: worry about awkward eye contact in this situation because she 297 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: is on the line so you can't see her, but 298 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: she does want to talk to you. 299 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 2: Oh wow, she. 300 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 5: Literally heard all of that. 301 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she needed to think. So, Vanessa, you're there. 302 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm here. You I mean, like that, that's 303 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 4: just what men want, and that's just how I am. 304 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 4: I'm very active and like you know, have a very 305 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 4: high drive. Oh wow, I didn't know I was dating 306 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 4: a snowflake. 307 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 8: Use me. 308 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 3: WHOA? 309 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 4: If you're not going to be, you know, a man, 310 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 4: then I'm gonna have this initiative. 311 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 1: She's calling you out, dude, What do you have to 312 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: say to that? 313 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 2: WHOA? 314 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 8: Do you think taking initiative is going behind a plant shop? 315 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 5: It doesn't have to be like that. That's too much. Well, 316 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 5: it was perfect, you ain't nobody was there. It's the 317 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 5: first day. You don't do that. 318 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 4: Oh my god, many days, man, these days? 319 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 5: WHOA? 320 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 2: I don't if it. 321 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 7: Was a Netflix and child that you wouldn't be shocked. It's 322 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 7: the gardens really threw it off. 323 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 8: I mean, put yourself in my streets for a second. 324 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,119 Speaker 8: After the date, she starts sending me weird. 325 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 5: Messages to come over. She's telling me that she has 326 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 5: these adult movies on Blu ray. 327 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 6: I'm still in an adult movie, scratched. 328 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: Let me fix this. 329 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 4: You have those, well those were my husbands I got 330 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 4: them in the divorce. 331 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: Oh it's nice of you to offer to share that 332 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: with your. 333 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 6: Date, But your date isn't responding to any of your 334 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 6: text messages, and you keep going. 335 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 4: He never said no, Yeah, but he didn't say yes. 336 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: You know, well, this is a good chance for him 337 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: to say yes, because we're going to offer to send 338 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: you two out on another date. And Keith, if you're 339 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: if you're open to trying this and giving Vanessa another chance, 340 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: will pay for it. 341 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: I mean, you know what you're gonna get this time around. 342 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: She says herself that she's very forward, she's open. She's 343 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: just putting herself out there only because she felt such 344 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: a good connection with you. I'm assuming so. 345 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: Sounds like such a sweet, innocent date. I still can't 346 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 2: get over. 347 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 7: It was it was I was never looking about candle guard. 348 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: She didn't want it to be sweetened, is it? 349 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: Well, maybe the next one can be a little bit 350 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: better because we'll pay for it. Keith, if you say 351 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: yes to another date with her, absolutely not. 352 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 4: Here's just such a whim. 353 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 6: I mean, really, I think that you like going forward 354 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 6: in your dating life, Vanessa, maybe should be a little 355 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 6: more upfront about what you're looking full up. 356 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: In frontal is what people are looking for. 357 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it sounds like you're game to do that, anyone. 358 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 4: So my grandkids told me about tender. 359 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: God rookie Jeffrey in the morning. I need to hear 360 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: from our listeners text in at seventy eight five nine 361 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: to two. If you've ever successfully fooled around in a 362 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: botanical garden. The more I say it. 363 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 3: The hotter it's out anyone ever. 364 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 6: I mean, I don't think you'd get caught, because nobody 365 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 6: would suspect it. Yeah, it's not like they're knocking on 366 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 6: the door of the bathroom if you've been in there 367 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 6: for too long. 368 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,359 Speaker 3: People caissing handle garden, I'd be like, oh, their first. 369 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 7: Kiss ever, their grandparents actually her, Yeah, how she comes off? 370 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, look at we can even really go back to 371 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: the fact that she basically catfished him. 372 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she doesn't know what fish. 373 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: She was a lot more seasoned than we gave her 374 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: credit for. 375 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: Its true, but my guess is that Brooke is thinking 376 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: the exact same thing that I am. Where have all 377 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: the loose men gone? Where did they go? They used 378 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: to be roaming all the keeping it zipped up? 379 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 3: Nowadays? 380 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: Why do you men have self respect? 381 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: It's just a different day and age. Now people are 382 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: hesitant to get freaky behind plant shops in broad daylight. 383 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: Yeah wow, I never thought would be here, Jeff. 384 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: Anyway, listening to us on the pod cast right now, 385 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: make sure you hit that subscribe button. And if you 386 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: need help in your dating life, you can always email 387 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: the show. 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