Speaker 1: It's nine og one Engine with Jenny Garth and Tory spelling.
Speaker 2: Hello, it's us your favorite omg ars.
Speaker 3: Well we're there only omg ers, but.
Speaker 1: So you're stuck with us.
Speaker 2: Good point, Good point. How is everybody today?
Speaker 1: Amy's very excited about this episode. I am because I
Speaker 1: can't wait to talk about sororities. But also how was like,
Speaker 1: were you both out of con? Just me?
Speaker 3: But Jenna and I'll be together this weekend for the
Speaker 3: Big one Nineties Con.
Speaker 1: We're taping this a little early, so you'll have to
Speaker 1: report back at That's okay though, so just so people
Speaker 1: can know they Tory just did a con. But then
Speaker 1: the Big Nineties Con will tell you all about it
Speaker 1: in a week because they we taped this right before.
Speaker 2: They left, right right, very so it's like.
Speaker 1: We're like in back to the future right now because
Speaker 1: we're time traveling.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, this is a good one this week,
Speaker 2: you guys, Season seven, episode five.
Speaker 1: It's a really good episode.
Speaker 2: Pledging My Love aired September eighteenth, nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 3: Synopsis. It's Pledge week and Steve accidentally shows too much
Speaker 3: school spirit, leaving him begging Brandon to bail him out.
Speaker 1: Yet again.
Speaker 3: Why Kenny finds a condo in Broughtwood, Amy is at
Speaker 3: Yours to continue his affair with Valerie, Donna takes a
Speaker 3: sporty pledge under her wing, and Kelly convinces Jimmy to
Speaker 3: reconnect with his Jewish roots before he says goodbye.
Speaker 2: Directed by James Darren, written by Phil Sabbath.
Speaker 1: Don't we should talk about the sad, sad, sad stuff first?
Speaker 1: Because I want to enjoy talking about Brentwood and sorority life.
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks, Amy loves talking about sororities, as we all know,
Speaker 2: Tori and I could care less seriously well.
Speaker 1: Because y'all got it so we had nothing to base
Speaker 1: it on.
Speaker 3: You got it so ridiculously you we need to do
Speaker 3: it ourselves.
Speaker 1: The writers have clearly never been in a sorority, because
Speaker 1: it's not that's not it doesn't work like that in
Speaker 1: any way, shape or form whatsoever at all.
Speaker 3: Should we talk like a sorority? You need one?
Speaker 1: Yes that you yes? Actually correct, you needed one because
Speaker 1: it showed like how far off they were. But first,
Speaker 1: don't let me forget to talk about brent one too.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about Let's talk about the sad one first, Kelly.
Speaker 2: We're continuing with the story with Kelly and Jimmy's friendship,
Speaker 2: and uh, it's a nice little outing. They go to
Speaker 2: celebrate the Jewish holiday with David, which is so nice
Speaker 2: to see. And uh, what is what am I called?
Speaker 2: If I'm not Jewish, I'm a I'm a SIXA. Well,
Speaker 2: this storyline was really really sad.
Speaker 1: It was really sad.
Speaker 3: Jen you were so beautiful and it.
Speaker 2: Just I cried and cried and cried.
Speaker 1: Watch it was a great performance by both of you.
Speaker 1: Now I will say they made how do I say
Speaker 1: this without seeming like a inappropriate jerk? They definitely made
Speaker 1: it seem a lot more lovely to pass away from
Speaker 1: a terrible, terrible disease than it actually is. Like I
Speaker 1: was like, they're kind of glossing over how awful this is.
Speaker 3: But did you want to see that part or you
Speaker 3: just wanted it to be a beautiful moment between the
Speaker 3: two of them?
Speaker 1: And all I can say is your dad covered it
Speaker 1: very realistically in and the band played off. So if
Speaker 1: you want to really see a little bit more of
Speaker 1: an accurate situation.
Speaker 2: Are you speaking like his physical appearance?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just don't know that you would
Speaker 1: go from being totally fine ish one day too to
Speaker 1: that and they and I think it was much more
Speaker 1: terrible than they made it seem right, but it is not.
Speaker 1: And now what are they gonna do? Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give them. I'm gonna give them a little bit of
Speaker 1: a pass because I really felt it was so important
Speaker 1: watching Yeah, it was so important to cover this storyline.
Speaker 1: And Jenny, I thought you were phenomenod Thank you.
Speaker 2: Guys. I had forgotten all about this storyline quite honestly,
Speaker 2: and watching it just brought it all back.
Speaker 3: Man, Like, sorry, I'm gonna embarrass you for a second
Speaker 3: gen Like what like no, in a good way. Like
Speaker 3: it's performances like this in matters that we dealt with
Speaker 3: like this that made me think, like why were you
Speaker 3: not nominated for that performance? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Was there even such a thing?
Speaker 4: Then?
Speaker 1: I do? There is?
Speaker 2: There was There was didn't happen for any of us,
Speaker 2: like for any of us.
Speaker 3: But I can't speak for myself for anyone else, but
Speaker 3: I can speak free you just watching a performance and
Speaker 3: just being a fan, not being your friend. I'm just
Speaker 3: watching and I'm like, this was such a brilliant opportunity
Speaker 3: to one get the accolades you deserved, and two to
Speaker 3: show how what the shower Gloss TV was actually doing
Speaker 3: a service to people and talking about important things that
Speaker 3: needed to be talked about. So it's kind of a
Speaker 3: bummer that nine notes, two and zero was just always
Speaker 3: passed over.
Speaker 1: Sorry, yeah, because you really addressed these issues and his performance, right.
Speaker 2: And we all worked so so hard, like we all
Speaker 2: worked our asses off for ten years.
Speaker 3: I feel like it came with the spelling name and
Speaker 3: it had a little bit of a spelling curse. I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: not curse, but you know what I mean. No, the
Speaker 3: stigma of stigma.
Speaker 2: What he was known for previously, but I think he
Speaker 2: was changing that narrative with but.
Speaker 3: He was always known for the new book. Actually, like
Speaker 3: even from the beginning, he did really amazing prolific shows
Speaker 3: that like spoke towards stuff. Like one of his first
Speaker 3: shows in the early seventies before our time, called Family
Speaker 3: was a brilliant, hard hitting issue show.
Speaker 1: Like, so it.
Speaker 3: Doesn't make s I don't know, sorry, And I'm not
Speaker 3: speaking to my dad's we have right now, I'm just
Speaker 3: speaking as a fan.
Speaker 1: And it was Christy mcnickelon Family. Correct. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: a that show dealt with a lot of stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so anyway.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, I don't know. Maybe it was love Boat
Speaker 2: or Fantasy Island that derailed it, But you know, the
Speaker 2: public's image of him is.
Speaker 3: More wild though you can't do both, right.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think they'll let you.
Speaker 1: I think the thing that's interesting is like, if you
Speaker 1: were of the time, right in the nineties, this wasn't
Speaker 1: the show that would come to mind to think of
Speaker 1: like great performances and really tackling these important issues just
Speaker 1: from the top of mind. If you were a core viewer,
Speaker 1: you would know. But it had the reputation of being
Speaker 1: like nine two and oh, melrose Play is kind of soapy,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? So it just wasn't
Speaker 1: on the list. What I always find amazing about nine
Speaker 1: O two and oh is and that we talk about
Speaker 1: this all the time. I'm sorry to be a nauseum
Speaker 1: about it. We have this storyline which I thought was
Speaker 1: done perfectly basically, while simultaneously we got streaking a scandalous affair,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like and shows.
Speaker 2: Or three or four different shows.
Speaker 1: A sorority storyline actually address something super important also in
Speaker 1: a unique way, which we can. We'll totally talk about
Speaker 1: when we get to the story thing, because Donna like
Speaker 1: was calling it out, calling out, being like, you know,
Speaker 1: we need to look at different people.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: Of course it's still a white blonde girl. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: need to judge people from what's on the inside. This
Speaker 1: blonde girl might not seem like all the other white
Speaker 1: blonde girl.
Speaker 2: But listen, we're not all the same.
Speaker 1: But I do want to talk about the story. Should
Speaker 1: we do that now or should talk Let's talk about
Speaker 1: you and Michael. His performance is incredible. Also, he's so good.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was heartbreaking. And then just the aftermath,
Speaker 2: like he clearly died while she said she's gonna stay
Speaker 2: with him, and then she went home and she's just
Speaker 2: sitting on the balcony processing it.
Speaker 3: And they lit that candle. I love those candles. I
Speaker 3: still like one for my dad every year.
Speaker 1: I appreciated that scene that they didn't put a bow
Speaker 1: on it. Do you know what I'm saying? Like nine
Speaker 1: O two and zero can do that? They that you
Speaker 1: didn't just leave and do do doot, You're fine.
Speaker 2: I probably would have ended the episode at a different
Speaker 2: point in that scene, but I don't know, the ending
Speaker 2: felt a little like not and I don't know, I
Speaker 2: didn't feel like a closure.
Speaker 3: You would have ended it with you and Jimmy in
Speaker 3: the past and not gone back to the David or No.
Speaker 2: I like the David scene.
Speaker 3: I think I loved you and David.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny. I forget how great Kelly and
Speaker 2: David are together.
Speaker 1: And I forget that I know they're so great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really a good pairing. But I feel
Speaker 2: like in that scene, like maybe what like at the
Speaker 2: lighting of the candle or.
Speaker 3: And did a little sooner, you would have gone out
Speaker 3: of it. Okay, that's fair me, No, that's fair.
Speaker 2: But I did. I did want it to end because
Speaker 2: I wasn't. I kept crying.
Speaker 3: Didn't want to cry anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this episode takes you on quite an
Speaker 1: emotional roller coaster and also had a lot of giggles,
Speaker 1: so it was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Wait, what'd you giggle at the shaving cream.
Speaker 1: Pants, streaking and the whole to do from.
Speaker 2: The streaking when he when okay, we're jumping ahead to
Speaker 2: Steve Sanders' rat boy behavior when he is running through
Speaker 2: the sprinklers and then he stops and like he plays
Speaker 2: it as if the sprinkler is like shooting up his butt.
Speaker 1: Basically seriously washing off his You see the sneaker shot too,
Speaker 1: I'm like his socks and sneakers, Like.
Speaker 3: It was so good and so nice. It's so crazy though,
Speaker 3: because that's shaving cream. I thought it was shaving cream
Speaker 3: at first, like over underwear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a little sprinkler isn't going to wash
Speaker 1: off the whole thing, and they could have kept running.
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess silly it was. That was a giggle.
Speaker 2: That was a jiggle giggle moment.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was like no one would know him that,
Speaker 3: what's the thing he does? Gen then like you know,
Speaker 3: he's like he's like, it's like so obvious.
Speaker 1: Okay, let us talk about the whole storyline, Okay, because
Speaker 1: it kind of was. You were having this sort of boring, boring,
Speaker 1: fulig real spirit and the newsgirl whose name Jill Novak,
Speaker 1: whose name is out of my head, her character Tracy.
Speaker 1: Tracy is all kind of bitter about it, like why
Speaker 1: are we covering this? We need some real news and
Speaker 1: it's like girls.
Speaker 6: She's.
Speaker 3: First news job ever into the cast, like she's been
Speaker 3: there forever right now, like you.
Speaker 1: Were drunk on your first newscast. Why don't you just like.
Speaker 3: We didn't even get to know her. It's like, all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, she's just there.
Speaker 2: All I know is like she's from the South, perhaps.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's just very suddenly she's Diane Sawyer, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. She's like, I need real news, like
Speaker 1: not this.
Speaker 2: It is so near to me that they would just
Speaker 2: take out the last character that looked just like this
Speaker 2: character and replace her with the same basic look, right.
Speaker 1: And the same basic character news woman. Like it's just
Speaker 1: like why, I don't even know why they did that?
Speaker 3: And I feel like she gets bubblier right because this
Speaker 3: one she was just straight up up britten. Who's the
Speaker 3: previous one, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: Blanking right like Susan, Susan, thank you.
Speaker 3: She's written just like Susan, whereas we got the notion
Speaker 3: of her last week that she was gonna be more fun,
Speaker 3: bubbly and like not just so like serious, like but
Speaker 3: here we go again.
Speaker 1: It's literally the same character. I also found it so
Speaker 1: interesting on the credits that Michael got okay, so it
Speaker 1: goes you know, this person, this person and special guest
Speaker 1: Star Dalton do you know what I mean? And then
Speaker 1: it goes through all the people in the episode, and
Speaker 1: then it says Anne Michael, I don't want to mess
Speaker 1: up his last name Stoyano. So I thought, oh, whoa,
Speaker 1: he really deserved the special guest star. They're really giving
Speaker 1: that Dalton guy special guest star and he has like
Speaker 1: two scenes. Anyway, I thought I found that all that interesting.
Speaker 3: But in some Jen correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't
Speaker 3: sometimes and the name like supposed to be it's.
Speaker 1: A bigger get a bigger It doesn't feel bigger than
Speaker 1: a special guest star to me.
Speaker 3: I think anna got a special guest.
Speaker 1: Star that feels big.
Speaker 2: Oh, nowadays the special guest star part is taken out
Speaker 2: and it's just and like you'll see that, like, for instance,
Speaker 2: I was just watching lion S last night and Nicole
Speaker 2: Kidman as and Nicole Kidman at the end.
Speaker 5: Oh so maybe because way bigger get Yeah, maybe because
Speaker 5: Dalton was a recurring and maybe they didn't cook consider
Speaker 5: Michael recurring.
Speaker 1: He was just doing a three episode arc, so he
Speaker 1: got the and it's all negotiated.
Speaker 2: Those words are all heavily negotiated right now.
Speaker 1: I have a question. This is just a sidebar. If
Speaker 1: someone was going to pay you more but you're not
Speaker 1: going to get that, and would you just take the
Speaker 1: money or is the credit that crucial?
Speaker 2: I would say it depends on the project.
Speaker 1: So say you're going to be on Lions and I'm
Speaker 1: going to pay you one million dollars, but you can
Speaker 1: get a terrible credit, like you're just lumped in. I
Speaker 1: don't think they would do that or you're gonna get
Speaker 1: I'm just making them more important.
Speaker 2: Actor would absolutely take the job for one million dollars
Speaker 2: and credited, write my name on a napkin and throw
Speaker 2: it in the trash can. I don't know it.
Speaker 3: Would be uncredited for bad amount.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: See that's what I was wondering. See, that's what I
Speaker 1: feel like.
Speaker 2: It's like it's a statisty.
Speaker 1: Maybe actors care more about it.
Speaker 2: It's a status thing. I think that reps care more.
Speaker 3: Oh really, it's kind of an old school thing maybe now, yeah,
Speaker 3: Oh that's interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Randy, are you on the line, mister showbiz, mister
Speaker 2: show biz calling, mister show We have so.
Speaker 1: Many questions for you.
Speaker 2: I'm here, Yes, what's the deal with an end credit
Speaker 2: at the end of a of a.
Speaker 4: Cast, there's actually two credits that that sort of set
Speaker 4: an actor aside, and there's width. Sometimes sometimes they've given
Speaker 4: the one that you that you want is and, but
Speaker 4: sometimes they've given and away to somebody else to so
Speaker 4: then then you can get with, which is basically the
Speaker 4: same thing.
Speaker 1: So would say with Tory Spelling and Jenny Garth. And
Speaker 1: in that case, Jenny would have the sparklier moment because
Speaker 1: she's last.
Speaker 4: Not necessarily the order so much as I think that
Speaker 4: were pretty much and and with is fairly synonymous. But
Speaker 4: I think most most reps will ask for and and
Speaker 4: it just sort of it just sort of sets that
Speaker 4: actor aside from all the other actors that are in
Speaker 4: the episode.
Speaker 6: Who are guests, who are guest stars?
Speaker 1: What about a special guest star? Because Dalton James got
Speaker 1: and special Guest Star up at the top, right, so
Speaker 1: it had like Jill Novak somebody else and Dalton James
Speaker 1: as and special guest star, but Michael got and.
Speaker 4: I think Jenny's right. I don't know that they use
Speaker 4: that that much anymore. WHOA don't hold don't hold me
Speaker 4: for that. But the reason that it's somewhat important to
Speaker 4: the reps, as Jenny said, is because it sets a
Speaker 4: precedent that you can use in other deals moving forward.
Speaker 4: When when you you can say to a casting director,
Speaker 4: well my client always gets and he got.
Speaker 6: It on this show. He got it on this show,
Speaker 6: he got it.
Speaker 3: It's so silly. Really, can we create new ones? I
Speaker 3: want ps Tory spelling exo XO Tory spelling.
Speaker 4: And the last but not least, imagine how about tagging along?
Speaker 1: We can tagging along Amy Sugarman, thank you, Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for that. I'll take that. Wait, Brandy, who
Speaker 1: votes for the Emmys?
Speaker 6: Anyone who's in.
Speaker 4: After Well, it's now one union SAG after, But so
Speaker 4: anyone who's in SAG after it can vote.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to. I won't, I won't call
Speaker 1: them out. But technically Jenny and Tory could be voting
Speaker 1: for the Emmys every year.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would be surprised if you guys aren't getting.
Speaker 2: I think I am. I don't really, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: how do you not vote?
Speaker 1: Totally help you vote.
Speaker 2: I will totally help you I vote, but I don't.
Speaker 3: Performances are always great. Sorry, I'm going back to this,
Speaker 3: but it's just it's blowing on.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. This is a good thing.
Speaker 3: Like her performance in this storyline is so incredible. Was
Speaker 3: she submitted to be nominated for the Emmys?
Speaker 6: Yes, and and we we the reps always.
Speaker 4: Are the ones that submit, And she was submitted on
Speaker 4: this And I'll tell you the other one that she
Speaker 4: was submitted on.
Speaker 6: Is the date rape episode.
Speaker 4: Remember where she is like confessional with everybody sitting around
Speaker 4: and the problem isn't it? And I heard your conversation
Speaker 4: and it is sad, Toy, because your dad did so
Speaker 4: many groundbreaking projects. But I, for whatever reason, I think
Speaker 4: that they're a little snooty at the Academy, you know,
Speaker 4: and and they think of this as as a as
Speaker 4: a teen an Aaron Spelling teen show. And I think
Speaker 4: if if those performances and Toy, you've done some great
Speaker 4: performances too, I think if they were in a different in.
Speaker 6: A different show, they would have been received.
Speaker 1: That's what I think too.
Speaker 3: I think, what a talented group, and it's just such
Speaker 3: a a miss.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was looking who was who won the Emmy
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety seven, Third Rock from the Sun. Maybe
Speaker 1: it looks like is that for comedy or was Oh
Speaker 1: that's comedy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel Jason was nominated a couple times for
Speaker 3: a Golden Globe.
Speaker 1: Correct, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I know for People's Choice, which was one, which was
Speaker 2: our one and only award.
Speaker 3: Jason one or two times was nominated for Best Actor
Speaker 3: in a Dramatic Series for Gold Globe.
Speaker 2: Look it up, Look it up.
Speaker 1: I can't google fast enough, so I'll talk about sororities
Speaker 1: while somebody finds out who won the Emmy for Best
Speaker 1: Drama in nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 2: All right, Amy, get go to get to town, go
Speaker 2: do your thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, so thank you so much, Jenny, your territory, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Nothing about it the order perspect I tipped my hat
Speaker 1: and so on. So that is not how rush works,
Speaker 1: you guys, in any way whatsoever, That is not how
Speaker 1: it works. You would never first of all, have a
Speaker 1: bunch of people in chairs voting on people, walk a
Speaker 1: girl in and have her stand in front of a
Speaker 1: table and no, they're being voted on, and then this
Speaker 1: whole white card, black card, Nope, nope, nope.
Speaker 2: White.
Speaker 4: Dying.
Speaker 1: So here's how it works. Okay, basically, say Jenny and
Speaker 1: I are in Pi Beta Phi and Tory's coming through Rush. Okay,
Speaker 1: so it's the first day of Rush. All the girls
Speaker 1: come to the door and it's like a tea party. Basically,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a party, right Like at the
Speaker 1: first day. I don't think there's food. You might get
Speaker 1: like water, like maybe some lemonade, and we sit in
Speaker 1: the living room and we chat with you. I'll give
Speaker 1: an example. Oh, Hi, I'm Amy. What's your name, Tory?
Speaker 1: You're the rushie.
Speaker 3: Hi, I'm Tory.
Speaker 1: Hi, Tory. How are you liking school so far? So far,
Speaker 1: so good. I'm really excited to be here. Where are
Speaker 1: you from.
Speaker 3: I'm from Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love LA. What's it like coming all the
Speaker 1: way up here to Berkeley in Northern California from LA?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: What's your favorite thing about Northern California so far?
Speaker 3: The seasons?
Speaker 1: And what are you studying at cal? What is your major?
Speaker 3: I don't think you're going to get educations.
Speaker 2: I feel like you're not going to get in.
Speaker 3: I'm already panicked. Listen, I'm I'm I'm trying it.
Speaker 2: You're okay, keep good.
Speaker 1: So then Jenny and I'm giving secrets right now, guys, secrets.
Speaker 1: So then Jenny you would come up and you'd be
Speaker 1: like hey, Amy, and I'd be like hey, Jenny, this
Speaker 1: is Tory. And you'd be like, Hi, Tory, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And then I'd be like, Jenny, why don't you get
Speaker 1: to know Toy? And then I get up and walk away,
Speaker 1: and you sit down and start talking to Tory. And
Speaker 1: that's the way.
Speaker 2: So it's about everybody in the house getting to know
Speaker 2: this new person.
Speaker 1: That might correct, but you get like three at a
Speaker 1: time because there's like fifty girls in the house. So
Speaker 1: then what happens is there is a meeting where you
Speaker 1: talk about the girls, but you would never do it
Speaker 1: like with the girl in the hallway. So then you
Speaker 1: go back and you're like, I loved her, like you know,
Speaker 1: we should invite her back, right, Or somebody could be like,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure she's like the perfect fit for this house,
Speaker 1: maybe we shouldn't have her back, right. That's the basic gist.
Speaker 1: So then you'd get invited, but you would never be
Speaker 1: like standing in the hallway and you would never have
Speaker 1: all these chairs lining. I mean, they got it like
Speaker 1: ten percent right, ninety percent wrong.
Speaker 2: Well, it's written by Phil Sabbath, a man who probably
Speaker 2: was never in a sorority rush so.
Speaker 3: Well, and that's what I'm saying, we have a question
Speaker 3: for you. Didn't we do it semi correct another season?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you did it much.
Speaker 3: Better done before all they had to do was reference
Speaker 3: old episodes. I just feel like they just wanted to
Speaker 3: get it shot fast, and.
Speaker 1: When you all went through Rush, it was still they
Speaker 1: were still getting it wrong, but they were getting it
Speaker 1: a little bit more right. This one was bananas right.
Speaker 1: And also like you can't yeah, okay, I'm getting in
Speaker 1: the weeds, but if it was formal rush, you can't
Speaker 1: just go and take this basketball player and be like
Speaker 1: come on over, Like it doesn't work like that.
Speaker 2: And also based so much on appearance or was that
Speaker 2: the whole thing the storyline?
Speaker 1: That was the point of this storyline is like they
Speaker 1: were basically being very sort of a like, oh, this
Speaker 1: athlete could never be an a sorority, where like half
Speaker 1: our sorority was athletes half what were genius sink.
Speaker 3: But different sororities do appeal to different correct.
Speaker 1: And I think the point that I that I liked
Speaker 1: about this was the girl was basically like f you guys,
Speaker 1: because you should have liked me from the start, like
Speaker 1: the Zeta Ta zetas or whatever made up sorority they had,
Speaker 1: and that's why she was like burned them, like that
Speaker 1: would never happen that way. But I thought she was like, oh,
Speaker 1: thanks so much and yeah, I won't be joining, which
Speaker 1: I thought was like, oh good Now, My question is
Speaker 1: Donna just up and quits dramatic?
Speaker 2: She is she leaving the subtity.
Speaker 3: I thought she was just quitting Rush Committee, like she's leaving.
Speaker 2: Maybe.
Speaker 1: Oh, and the president would never act like that, that
Speaker 1: mean president. I mean, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: I realized that's my that was my friend sitting next
Speaker 2: to her.
Speaker 1: No way.
Speaker 2: Do you remember Page Tor, Yes, of course, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: married to Jacob, and I think that was her sitting
Speaker 2: next to the mean sorority girl. She had one line.
Speaker 6: Hmm.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, look how young she is.
Speaker 3: Who the mean sorority girl is somebody? Her name is
Speaker 3: Julie Nathanson, the president.
Speaker 1: She was mean, real.
Speaker 2: Mean, smootie Judy, snooty Judy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was tough and it was just embarrassing. It
Speaker 1: was cringe correct. I can't remember. I just was like,
Speaker 1: white card, are you going to black card her? I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, this is so stereo. Basically,
Speaker 1: here's what nind stereotypical sorority life, like, that's how somebody
Speaker 1: would think it is. And they really leaned into that.
Speaker 1: I do think, I mean, I think they like. I
Speaker 1: like that they touch on it because it is kind
Speaker 1: of like what you all would have done if you
Speaker 1: were in college. And I like the streaking and the
Speaker 1: boys being because that all tracks right, like boys causing
Speaker 1: a ruckus. That part does happen, it's it was the pledges.
Speaker 1: And then I joined in like all that was actually
Speaker 1: kind of accurate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and how about the fact that Steve goes to
Speaker 2: Brandon yet again to save his.
Speaker 1: Yet again, and yet again Brandon's like, oh dang it, Steve,
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 6: I can't got my.
Speaker 1: Journalist in the integrity And then like he goes in.
Speaker 2: I love it that you have a Southern accent for Brandon.
Speaker 1: And then like the Chancellor, I can't tell if he's
Speaker 1: sort of is the word adult? Like is he sort
Speaker 1: of adult you know, adul? Or is he souped adult?
Speaker 1: Don't they sort of adult? Adult? I don't know how
Speaker 1: you even spelled yeah, like goof like like or is
Speaker 1: he so savvy that he was like whoa. It's like
Speaker 1: he went from being so mad that they wouldn't give
Speaker 1: him the tape to then they give him the tape
Speaker 1: and he's like, well you've given me the tape and
Speaker 1: something happened in the chain of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now all the sudden he's in on it.
Speaker 1: Like right, I'm like, what's very weird. It's very weird.
Speaker 2: I always kind of felt like he was like an adult, like.
Speaker 1: Like a kind of one. Is he the most savvy Chancellor?
Speaker 2: I think so?
Speaker 3: But there's something so charming about him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had the same storyline Claire's mad because Steve's
Speaker 1: being a dumb ass, Like it's just like can I and.
Speaker 2: So much like Steve bashing from his girlfriend totally.
Speaker 1: And also I would have giggled, like honestly, I would
Speaker 1: have just been like that emoji where you're like you
Speaker 1: know that. Also would have been like, that's funny. My
Speaker 1: boyfriend is the guy in the streaking it's I mean joke.
Speaker 1: Her outfit though, that the purple.
Speaker 2: Green, Yeah, she had some outlandish outfit.
Speaker 1: That was great.
Speaker 3: I was like, wouldn't have thought to do that, But
Speaker 3: in some way it works completely.
Speaker 1: Do other than just like, oh, Stave, you've done it again.
Speaker 1: You're always causing me problems by being a dummy.
Speaker 2: Why is she staying with him?
Speaker 1: I don't know what it's like she and then it's
Speaker 1: always like brand I did, like when Brandon's like with
Speaker 1: the eyes. Don't say it, don't say it. I've already
Speaker 1: fixed this, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: He was very cocky in this episode. Didn't you feel
Speaker 2: like he had like this like air of.
Speaker 1: I run the newsroom, I run the newsroom. And then
Speaker 1: her with her big magnet. Obviously we all knew, you know, have.
Speaker 2: You ever seen a magnet that pic?
Speaker 1: I don't even think that works. By the way, I
Speaker 1: don't even think that works.
Speaker 2: He would be stuck to it. Hi, it's a magnet,
Speaker 2: he's her metal.
Speaker 1: Here's how you wreck a tape. Hold the string out
Speaker 1: of it, you know what I mean, pull the tape out.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, do you guys remember having to take
Speaker 1: the pencil and like, yeah, your tape thing and like
Speaker 1: oh my culture club tapes all jacked up?
Speaker 3: Wait you guys, why was Carrie strugg in this?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, she could come back.
Speaker 2: I dave see the I didn't see who it was.
Speaker 2: I heard the voice, and I was like, what is
Speaker 2: happening right now? It was so weird, weird, weird, weird.
Speaker 1: It's like, obviously they got Carrie Strug. She probably was
Speaker 1: a fan, but they had nothing for her to do, nothing,
Speaker 1: And she's an amazing gymnast and I will never forget her,
Speaker 1: like gymnasting with that broken ankle, but she's not a
Speaker 1: good act.
Speaker 3: Was like, I hope it was David flirting with her
Speaker 3: like I couldn't, or he's just a fan, like.
Speaker 2: He all of a sudden, such a big, huge fan
Speaker 2: of women's glastics, I know.
Speaker 3: And he's not angry anymore, you guys.
Speaker 2: No, he's so happy around Kars.
Speaker 1: Angel's gone on in this episode.
Speaker 2: I think it's her. I think she makes him happy.
Speaker 3: So is she going to be in classes with them
Speaker 3: or is the same?
Speaker 2: I hope so, because then he'll be pleasant to be around.
Speaker 1: Great good help. Oh my god. Wait, so Lorraine just
Speaker 1: meant messages that Carrie was obviously that whole you know
Speaker 1: her her era was in nineteen ninety six. This is
Speaker 1: the second time because remember they made a mention of
Speaker 1: the Olympics. Yes, Brandon was driving across the country. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so maybe the Olympics were just like so big that
Speaker 1: then everyone was like, oh Carrie strug No one cared.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was kind of like Mary lou
Speaker 1: Rettin in eighty four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think they had that box, so
Speaker 2: that's different. That's true. They had that that was like
Speaker 2: the Magnificent seven or something that was.
Speaker 1: That Harry Strugs. I just remember her like busting her
Speaker 1: ankle and doing the thing anyway, and she's like hopping.
Speaker 1: It was so I was like karate kid an ankle. Yes,
Speaker 1: it was totally karate kid.
Speaker 3: Loreene saying she's going to be in four more, four
Speaker 3: more episodes.
Speaker 1: We get to Carrie's drug is going to be in
Speaker 1: f no.
Speaker 2: No, the the lady at the sority and sorority girl.
Speaker 3: I was trying to have like poker face.
Speaker 2: Like good for her.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk more about the sorority.
Speaker 3: Oh, Julie Nathanson is ellen, Okay, she's in four more. Yeah,
Speaker 3: she's just like the mean girl.
Speaker 2: So mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He says you have to win a gold medal
Speaker 2: to get into a class around here, well.
Speaker 3: Because he doesn't want silent Russian screen What is that class?
Speaker 1: That was wild? You can't get it in his classes.
Speaker 3: But it's full, it's packed. He can't get into that one.
Speaker 3: Everyone wants to take that one.
Speaker 2: But I did enjoy, in true Donna fashion, you standing
Speaker 2: up for what's right, rooting for the underdog, trying to
Speaker 2: help her. Yep, it was perfect my hair and despite
Speaker 2: your hair, because that was real hard for me to
Speaker 2: get past, and I was struggling with it so much.
Speaker 2: And then you did it to that poor girl, and
Speaker 2: I did it to her. But you are super cute
Speaker 2: when you're standing behind her and you're like like posy.
Speaker 2: You know that Look was who had those pigtails? Jim
Speaker 2: Carrey somewhere.
Speaker 1: Long stalking?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, those pig tails.
Speaker 1: Dummer, dumb and dumber, dumb and dumber.
Speaker 2: Living color, wasn't it?
Speaker 1: Pet? Detective?
Speaker 2: Oh my god?
Speaker 3: Okay, no, no.
Speaker 1: No, Pet Not the three point shot?
Speaker 2: No, not detective?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Did you? Did you remember? Right?
Speaker 1: Jen?
Speaker 2: I feel like I don't even think I watched it.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was Tori's actual shot because they
Speaker 1: cut to the basket.
Speaker 2: Did you make that shot?
Speaker 3: I mean unless I was throwing what is it when
Speaker 3: you underhead underhand?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You had you were pretty good and I was like,
Speaker 2: oh right. When you took the ball and I knew
Speaker 2: you were gonna throw it, I got actually tense in
Speaker 2: my body because I was like, oh no, I hope
Speaker 2: she looks good doing this, because I know this is
Speaker 2: kind of not her thing. So when you did it,
Speaker 2: I was like pleasantly surprised at your form. Wasn't bad,
Speaker 2: Like you did a good job.
Speaker 1: Donna loves a crappie top.
Speaker 2: There was crop tops all over the place in this episode.
Speaker 1: It made a strong comeback. Oh yeah, oh yeah, crop
Speaker 1: tops are back. Oh so guess what you guys. I
Speaker 1: kind of like Valerie Kenny. Now I've been such in
Speaker 1: my mouth sweet in this episode. I was like, I
Speaker 1: I like them.
Speaker 2: I know problem, why why why do you like them?
Speaker 3: I don't know. He's not grossing me out anymore. I
Speaker 3: don't know what it was.
Speaker 2: He's not grossing you out. He's in the car with
Speaker 2: his wife.
Speaker 1: And her hair is better this episode.
Speaker 2: Her like, her outfits were better in this episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he I don't know.
Speaker 3: He wasn't a sticky beat like with his like it
Speaker 3: was more kind of real. Maybe it's that a little
Speaker 3: bit more.
Speaker 1: I don't know whether to hate him or not.
Speaker 2: He least her an apartment so that they could fool around,
Speaker 2: not in the Walsh.
Speaker 1: House, I guess, so they just have a place to go.
Speaker 1: That was first of all, It's one of our first
Speaker 1: shout outs to Brentwood. So I was real happy.
Speaker 3: You were looking and like, do you know exactly where
Speaker 3: that is?
Speaker 2: That place?
Speaker 1: Okay? It looked like it literally looked like my street.
Speaker 1: I was like, is that sanm Pasani is thatta? Like
Speaker 1: what's happening? It looked like Brentwood? They called it out,
Speaker 1: and then it really did look like brent Wood. Hyeah,
Speaker 1: it really did. So I was just immediately doing the math, like, okay,
Speaker 1: so this guy is paying for a apartment and he
Speaker 1: kind of acknowledges. He's like you can live here or not,
Speaker 1: like you can stay here or not. It's all furnished,
Speaker 1: by the way, fully.
Speaker 3: Furnished, disgustingly but okay.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And she doesn't even look around.
Speaker 2: No, she just goes straight to the bedroom.
Speaker 3: I was like, she wasn't even like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: or at least pull a little bit like he's like,
Speaker 3: do you like it? Do you like it?
Speaker 1: It almost felt genuinely bad for her, which is weird
Speaker 1: because I, first of all, she knows what she's doing.
Speaker 1: She's totally dating a married guy. But then I felt
Speaker 1: bad for her when she had the dinner maid and
Speaker 1: then she's do do do do do? Calling on the
Speaker 1: phone and gets his office, and then doo doo doo
Speaker 1: calling on the car, and then he's like, hi mom,
Speaker 1: I mean the whole thing is so gross.
Speaker 3: Like sorry, she mentions, am I a kept woman?
Speaker 2: I mean, yet you two, you two like this, now
Speaker 2: you two are into it, like it. That's why I
Speaker 2: don't understand why.
Speaker 3: But that happens. It's like men not kept. It makes
Speaker 3: it sound like they're a prisoner.
Speaker 5: But they give a lifestyle to a girl that they're like, Okay,
Speaker 5: this is great.
Speaker 3: I mean she is the Walsh House, so she is
Speaker 3: in this place, but it's just me.
Speaker 1: It's very She's got daddy issues and she is showing
Speaker 1: them to us. And then I sort of was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, he came to the door. I'm just
Speaker 1: like sucked in he came to the door. Ah, he's
Speaker 1: got papers and Brandon with the Stink Guy, Brandon performing
Speaker 1: well with the stink Guy, and like, oh you make
Speaker 1: Miles calls mob or whatever his name is. And then
Speaker 1: he goes upstairs Kenny and he's like so and so's here,
Speaker 1: and then she's like tell him, I'm at yogurt, and
Speaker 1: I'm just like I love the drama of this. I
Speaker 1: am in.
Speaker 3: I was really into Jason's performance this episode because sometimes
Speaker 3: with Brandon he plays him kind of like.
Speaker 1: What's the word.
Speaker 3: Hm, like mono, a little mono, and I know that's
Speaker 3: his but like I felt it was very like he
Speaker 3: had different levels in this one, which was a choice.
Speaker 3: I felt like he was very into this episode, like, yes,
Speaker 3: and he looks great.
Speaker 1: He always does. He always well, he has some season.
Speaker 1: But I liked that he was given Kenny the stink
Speaker 1: guys and his name Kenny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, back to Brandon.
Speaker 2: You call him back to Brandon for a second though,
Speaker 2: because yeah, I would love I Are we going to
Speaker 2: see Brandon's like what makes him who he is? Are
Speaker 2: we going to ever see below the surface of this
Speaker 2: valiant No?
Speaker 1: You mean perfect Brandon?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I want to see more. I want to know that
Speaker 2: character like somebody. Just when he says to Kenny at
Speaker 2: the door, like oh that the first year was tough,
Speaker 2: but gotten used to it. Now his parents wholly left
Speaker 2: him and don't even come back for Christmas?
Speaker 3: Like, do you ever see Brandon breakdown and cry and
Speaker 3: say I can't be perfect, I can't hold this all together.
Speaker 2: I would like to see this, you.
Speaker 6: Know what, Jen?
Speaker 3: That is what is such a great point Amy. It
Speaker 3: never happens, does it.
Speaker 1: I don't not that I can recall him. Even when
Speaker 1: his parents were gonna get divorced, he handled it like
Speaker 1: a real Champa was He's also just kind of like
Speaker 1: perfect Brandon.
Speaker 3: That going to be great, Jen, So right, I would
Speaker 3: love to have seen that one time.
Speaker 1: He had some meltdowns more with Dylan, you know, not
Speaker 1: full meltdowns, but like especially when he was sort of
Speaker 1: trying to help Dylan at times. Right, you saw a
Speaker 1: full emotion there, but not like where you're really getting
Speaker 1: to know the insight.
Speaker 3: So what pressure on Brandon? Like he supports a lot
Speaker 3: of people emotionally and it's financially I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, right, Yeah, I need to see him lose his Yeah,
Speaker 2: I would like to.
Speaker 1: See that your best friend and true love up and
Speaker 1: left and you guys forgot about it, like about a
Speaker 1: day later and someone died. That was like soon close
Speaker 1: to y'all, and y'all were pretty much over it the
Speaker 1: next day, meaning Rebecca Gayheart like we really got over
Speaker 1: that her murder very fast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just saying it's just a lot.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: This is why the show is so popular, because there's
Speaker 2: a little something for everybody in each episode.
Speaker 1: Totally, I'm pretty into the Valerie storyline. It might be
Speaker 1: my favorite. That means said I don't love where it goes.
Speaker 1: I would have actually enjoyed what we can talk about
Speaker 1: it as it goes there. Oh, it gets so unhinged
Speaker 1: where i'd rat And so I'm sorry. I know everyone
Speaker 1: yells at me for giving spoilers, but literally giving spoilers
Speaker 1: on a show that aired thirty years ago.
Speaker 2: Anyway, it's a spoiler to me.
Speaker 3: So I was like wow, because we know what's going
Speaker 3: to happen, but in this epod, we don't know what's
Speaker 3: gonna I was like for this young girl to be
Speaker 3: as fine with this situation and kind of like, no,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make him. Wait no, it's on, Oh do
Speaker 3: you want me? And it's when I say and I
Speaker 3: was like wow.
Speaker 6: I was like wow. I thought she.
Speaker 1: Had a turnaround way too fast though, Like she was
Speaker 1: like tell him I'm at yogurt and it's like, then
Speaker 1: she shows up at the office. First of all, he
Speaker 1: was way too rude, right, Like, he was way too mean, considering, hey, dude,
Speaker 1: what did yesterday? You basically were like in your car
Speaker 1: with your wife while I made like lamb chops at home?
Speaker 2: Was he mad at her?
Speaker 1: That was weird? And then she's so like because she
Speaker 1: called hisself here, right, But then he came over and
Speaker 1: that was before he she right, I thought, knowing what
Speaker 1: did they have a discussion?
Speaker 3: Like do not ever call my cell phone? I don't know,
Speaker 3: Like why was he so mad like she had?
Speaker 1: How does she get the I mean, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe there's like.
Speaker 3: She was he was just mad because of the timing,
Speaker 3: but that that's not that's well.
Speaker 1: Then he was mad because he showed up at the
Speaker 1: Walsh house and she wouldn't see him, so he was
Speaker 1: all bent out of shape. When I'm like, dude, he's
Speaker 1: a deck that's why. That's why I love him.
Speaker 2: Suddenly, Yeah, I want to say, Amy, though, I'm kind
Speaker 2: of excited to see this turned in you oh, that
Speaker 2: you are all of a sudden into the storyline.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's getting maybe because it's getting juicy.
Speaker 1: Before I was just like.
Speaker 3: You like that drop, you like the drama.
Speaker 1: I like the drama. And then it's so like when
Speaker 1: she shows up the office and then she's like seducing him.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god. I almost kind of
Speaker 1: got embarrassed, Like I was a little bit like, am
Speaker 1: I having like secondhand embarrassment, Like I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't have to do with this. And I was glad
Speaker 1: they cut it off when they did because I was
Speaker 1: so uncompassed. I was like, I don't yikes.
Speaker 2: What if the what if the secretary come out?
Speaker 6: That's what I thought.
Speaker 1: Hell, the same thing.
Speaker 3: Hell, Helen's probably seen this a million times. Yeah, that
Speaker 3: guy had.
Speaker 1: This is not the first time this gut's done that
Speaker 1: which we know, remember the juicy thing that comes out?
Speaker 2: No, I don't remember.
Speaker 3: No, No, we don't ruin it for us. Oh really
Speaker 3: should she do? We want to know?
Speaker 2: She no, No, she thinks you remember and she knows
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: Oh you'll remember when Jenny will never remember?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Anyway, thanks, what do you guys give? This episode?
Speaker 1: This season is not jumping the shark in any way.
Speaker 1: This season might be as good as the one before.
Speaker 1: Like I'm loving it.
Speaker 2: You give it a nine, you'd say point five nine.
Speaker 1: Like I'm Carrie's Drug. I'm going to give it an
Speaker 1: eight point five. Oh that was low. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's low. It feels low for how good this episode was.
Speaker 2: There were parts of it that were like five for me,
Speaker 2: and there were parts of it that were like a ten.
Speaker 2: And there were parts of it that were a nine.
Speaker 2: Like I can't when it's all over the place like this,
Speaker 2: how are you supposed to give it a nine?
Speaker 1: I know we have to go, But all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I just had a moment of like, this is the
Speaker 1: same episodeode where you have your scene and like when
Speaker 1: he's passing away, that's the same episode.
Speaker 3: It feels like right, like that's a ten to me.
Speaker 3: But I know you love the sorty stuff. I didn't
Speaker 3: love it as much.
Speaker 2: So I just loved your hair. That's all.
Speaker 1: It's all a ten. It's all ten to me. I'm
Speaker 1: going to raise my thing to a perfect ten for
Speaker 1: Carrie Drug and.
Speaker 3: For kit Drug Summer five, Summer ten. So how do
Speaker 3: you emerge it together? You give it a ten, you
Speaker 3: are leaving the witness.
Speaker 2: I think you have to like do the math, which
Speaker 2: I don't and then you kind of like divide it
Speaker 2: by four, and then I think it's like seven point
Speaker 2: five seven seven point five is always safe when some
Speaker 2: of it's not great and some of it's great.
Speaker 3: I got t getting for eight point five, but she's
Speaker 3: safe for the seven point five.
Speaker 1: No, she's not getting anyone the gold and you guys
Speaker 1: are scoring it way too low.
Speaker 2: But it's fine, It's okay. What's our next episode?
Speaker 1: And please say the next one is on streaming because
Speaker 1: it really seems good. The bummer that this was on DVD,
Speaker 1: like hello, and I know people aren't even they're they're
Speaker 1: quitting on us because they don't want to deal with
Speaker 1: the DVD. There's I'm like, stop, come back, come back.
Speaker 2: Next week we have a season seven, episode six housewarming.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is Brewer.
Speaker 1: But what David's house. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, look at her.
Speaker 2: But oh my god, look at her. But do what
Speaker 2: song is that from? Because I say that constantly about myself.
Speaker 1: Sir, mix a lot like baby Got Back.
Speaker 2: Bye, guys, Bye, have a good week.