Speaker 1: Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is
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Speaker 2: We Got Lots.
Speaker 3: Just we got lost? Just what better here?
Speaker 4: And we hope you say because we got.
Speaker 3: Lost, Yeah, we got lost. Just say.
Speaker 5: Here's Bobby in that.
Speaker 2: Jared Allen coming up in a few minutes.
Speaker 4: Here, you have a song you would listen to before
Speaker 4: you like a specific song you would listen.
Speaker 1: To before games.
Speaker 2: Depending on the mood I was in, I went.
Speaker 5: Through like this BDM like techno phase, kind of really
Speaker 5: get myself fired up. Then I went through a little
Speaker 5: bit of like ACDC Thunderstruck. Then there was a little
Speaker 5: bit of Dave Matthews in there every now and then.
Speaker 5: If I was in that the kind of like comp
Speaker 5: calm yourself down but kind of at the same time.
Speaker 2: Give you good vibes. So I went through I was
Speaker 2: kind of all over the map.
Speaker 4: If I did your Spotify rapped songs you listened to
Speaker 4: going into a game, what song or what one and
Speaker 4: two songs would be there?
Speaker 2: And I can I can give you a second to
Speaker 2: think before I go on stage.
Speaker 4: I have the same exact playlist and I go before
Speaker 4: my music hits to do my act, which I have
Speaker 4: a song I come out to, but I listen to
Speaker 4: Seven Nation Army White Stripes. I love that song, don't don't,
Speaker 4: because that's like I need to have this mix of
Speaker 4: I need to be up and fired up. But if
Speaker 4: I'm too fired up because I've got to communicate, too
Speaker 4: fired up is not good, right, So I need to
Speaker 4: come out with energy, but I need to be focused
Speaker 4: and that song doesn't just know.
Speaker 2: It hits it hits hard.
Speaker 4: That would be my number one on the rap list
Speaker 4: of songs that I would go that I go out to.
Speaker 2: Is that one. Yeah.
Speaker 5: The interesting part a lot of times I would listen
Speaker 5: to music, and when before the pre pregame, right, I'd
Speaker 5: listen to music.
Speaker 2: As I came into.
Speaker 5: The locker room is usually when i'd take out my
Speaker 5: take out my EarPods or whatever it might be, and
Speaker 5: stop listening to music and then go through the game
Speaker 5: plan one more time and get kind of just locked
Speaker 5: in focus, especially because a lot of people don't realize
Speaker 5: you're usually scripted for those first twenty plays, so you
Speaker 5: know what's going to be called in the first twenty
Speaker 5: plays of the game. Now that might differ a little
Speaker 5: bit just based on situational football. You're in third down,
Speaker 5: third and one, third and two, but you have your
Speaker 5: list of third down calls from third and three to six,
Speaker 5: six to nine, ten plus. So I wanted to get
Speaker 5: locked in. So even if you had a communication problem,
Speaker 5: I usually could call the first ten plays because I
Speaker 5: had them rehearse in my mind. And so I wasn't
Speaker 5: one of those guys that would get completely distracted with
Speaker 5: music because I was one of those players that just
Speaker 5: wanted to come and focus in on what the task
Speaker 5: at hand had to be. And especially if there was
Speaker 5: checks early on the game, this is a team that
Speaker 5: is either max pressure, max splitz. Okay, I got to
Speaker 5: be prepared to check with seven man protection what it
Speaker 5: might be, and I'd just rehearse it in my mind
Speaker 5: and go through it before we'd go out. So I
Speaker 5: wasn't always that kind of guy that would listen to
Speaker 5: music before the game.
Speaker 4: The big fight for our high school football was we
Speaker 4: were a diverse team. We were the only team that
Speaker 4: had black guys in our county, and so the black
Speaker 4: guys would always want Tupac and the white guys would
Speaker 4: always want a CDC.
Speaker 2: Hill's bells.
Speaker 4: So before every game we'vel had to flip a coin
Speaker 4: and whatever it was on. And it wasn't contentious at all,
Speaker 4: but whatever it landed on, and some of the black
Speaker 4: guys up wanted ACDC, some of the white guys ended
Speaker 4: up wanting TUPAC, depending on how the game went the
Speaker 4: last week. But we flipped a coin every game and
Speaker 4: whatever it landed on. That's why we went out to
Speaker 4: either TUPAC or ac DC. Hell's bells. I want to
Speaker 4: hear those songs. It reminds me of that time, like
Speaker 4: walking out. For sure, I give you my Since we're
Speaker 4: both elite athletes and very high level football players. This
Speaker 4: we'll land on this before we get to the segment,
Speaker 4: but because we have Jared Allen coming up in a second. First,
Speaker 4: I'd like to say to everybody, I do not think
Speaker 4: that I am any sort of talent at the game
Speaker 4: of football stop like Matt Castle is. So when I
Speaker 4: tell this story, it's not me acting as a football peer.
Speaker 2: I just need people to know that are a football
Speaker 2: not a football pier. But so I was captain of
Speaker 2: our high school football team.
Speaker 4: Yes you were knucks Knucks and again high energy guy motor.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of after technicians, good hands, good hands.
Speaker 4: As captain, we go out for the coin toss and
Speaker 4: we're playing this team called Sparkman, who I think they
Speaker 4: were like nine to no. I believe we were eight
Speaker 4: and one at the time game. And so we're up. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like we're going and I'm fired. I was a little
Speaker 4: too fired up. And we go and they flipped a
Speaker 4: coin and they win the coin toss, and so they
Speaker 4: say we'll defer, and so they look at me and
Speaker 4: they go, okay, they deferred. Uh what I said, Uh,
Speaker 4: we will kick off, and they're like the ref looks
Speaker 4: at me and goes, no, no, no, they deferred to
Speaker 4: the second half. They get to make their decision the
Speaker 4: second when we come out for the second half. So
Speaker 4: what do you want to do now? All I remember
Speaker 4: is coach Gandalff going, if we get the chance, we
Speaker 4: want to kick and we're gonna we're gonna stop them.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, we want to kick, and the ref
Speaker 4: looks at me and he goes okay, And that was
Speaker 4: so all right. They've like they deferred the second half
Speaker 4: and Mount Pine has decided to kick, and I still
Speaker 4: I'm just so fired up to go play defense. That
Speaker 4: and I didn't eve play defense, by the way, I played
Speaker 4: only like dying package.
Speaker 2: And so what is your coach doing? Oh no, no,
Speaker 2: here's why he did. I walked off. He grabbed me
Speaker 2: by the face mask.
Speaker 4: Now, luckily, pretty smart guy as far as like standardized
Speaker 4: tests life, I've been a pretty smart person.
Speaker 2: He and I remember everybody could hear it.
Speaker 4: He grabbed me by the face mask and said, you're
Speaker 4: the smartest mother effort on this team. And that's the
Speaker 4: dumbest effing thing I've ever seen in my history of coaching.
Speaker 4: We lost that game by six points. Oh no, you
Speaker 4: been stung worse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we lost it by one possession.
Speaker 5: You know, believe it or not, I'm not lying to you.
Speaker 5: That happened to us. One of the captains on our
Speaker 5: team did the same exact thing. When I was with
Speaker 5: the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 2: In the NFL. It happened. We kicked off twice in
Speaker 2: the first half. There's no way in the second half,
Speaker 2: No way. True, that's my hero.
Speaker 4: We need to find out who that is because I
Speaker 4: need to talk to whomever it is to take.
Speaker 2: Hold is probably me the smartest guy that was.
Speaker 5: No, I don't even remember who it was did we
Speaker 5: kicked off?
Speaker 2: Are both half? I'm positive that is the best news
Speaker 2: I've had all day. So you're not as dumb as you.
Speaker 4: Oh I am, but acted that somebody did that professionally. Wow,
Speaker 4: what a day this is.
Speaker 2: It happened. We are fired.
Speaker 4: It happened again. Jared only coming by and just a
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Speaker 2: Thank you. You're gonna be honest. I wish I knew
Speaker 2: Jared Allen. I don't. This is your buddy. How do
Speaker 2: you know Jared? Well?
Speaker 5: I played against him for a number of years and
Speaker 5: then when I went to Minnesota he was there, so
Speaker 5: we became teammates and he was right next to me
Speaker 5: in the locker room.
Speaker 2: Great time.
Speaker 5: But when I called him up, I was like, hey,
Speaker 5: would you come on be here.
Speaker 2: I know that he loves to talk.
Speaker 5: He'd be a great guest and he's got great stories
Speaker 5: and he's a future Hall of Famer. So he was like, absolutely,
Speaker 5: and that's that's the cool part is when you have
Speaker 5: relationships with guys like that and they're just completely open
Speaker 5: and real and authentic.
Speaker 2: And so he came on without a doubt. It was awesome.
Speaker 2: Here he is Jared Allen.
Speaker 1: I would like to say that I have been advocating
Speaker 1: and many many.
Speaker 4: Many super small circles that it's effecting on the Hall
Speaker 4: of Fame drives me insane.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that. That's a heck of a way to
Speaker 3: start this segment too, because a lot I could go
Speaker 3: off about that.
Speaker 1: I do believe it.
Speaker 2: Give it to us. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know you, but I believe I say it.
Speaker 2: It's even about me having a relationship with you.
Speaker 1: It's it's a travesty that you weren't on the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Yeah, I'll be honest, I really I don't.
Speaker 3: I tell you all the time, and I think people
Speaker 3: that know me, no, I don't. I don't think about
Speaker 3: it except when they bring it up, you know, three
Speaker 3: weeks out of the year, and they they have this
Speaker 3: unique way of making grown men get all like emotional
Speaker 3: about something that you have zero control over. I think
Speaker 3: that's what pisses me off the most about it. It's
Speaker 3: like you get me excited for something and I have
Speaker 3: no control over it. So, yeah, I had no expectations
Speaker 3: of getting in the first year, as as I've been
Speaker 3: a first ballot as the first ballot finalist's been on
Speaker 3: the now for five years.
Speaker 6: Unfortunately, collecting final ballads for the Hall of Fame is
Speaker 6: not a good thing.
Speaker 2: Time sucks. Everybody gets the same.
Speaker 6: So you know what I this last year.
Speaker 3: I'll be real honest, just from the standpoint is statistically,
Speaker 3: there's nobody on the list that's not that's better than me,
Speaker 3: right right me?
Speaker 6: SUGS is up this year. But if you.
Speaker 3: Compare my average per year, you know, you know, you
Speaker 3: can hear the years I played to everybody on that list,
Speaker 3: nobody is better than me.
Speaker 6: And that's to me, And that's what I actually told.
Speaker 6: That's all the fatim I said.
Speaker 3: You can't sit here and tell me this is based
Speaker 3: on my merit, because statistically then I'm in. But so
Speaker 3: it's basically it's a popularity contest and either someone in
Speaker 3: the room doesn't like me or my presenters, and I
Speaker 3: get So the part I get frustrated with is there's
Speaker 3: no there's no they don't give you any guidelines, right,
Speaker 3: there's no basis for who, why, what where? When there's
Speaker 3: no real what's the word I'm looking for?
Speaker 2: So they're voting on the pope, they don't only tell
Speaker 2: you what the vote is. Yeah, yeah, you know what
Speaker 2: they're looking for. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And when you said, presenter, how does that work? So
Speaker 5: you have somebody that represents you to the committee, correct,
Speaker 5: so you go in and advocate on your behalf?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I I I it's one of my voters
Speaker 3: in Minnesota. Right, soone right, I'm going in as a Viking.
Speaker 3: Well I had vote my very first year, no joke,
Speaker 3: and I don't I don't know the guy, but I
Speaker 3: got rested sould my my I had uh uh Minnesota
Speaker 3: and chiefs was going in uh presenters and my presenter
Speaker 3: in Kansas City died. He was a young man, Like
Speaker 3: I was like, are you are you kidding me? I
Speaker 3: mean that's how that's how it happened. And so I
Speaker 3: haven't talked to the new guy in Kansas City. I
Speaker 3: didn't talk last year. I didn't talk to anybody late last year.
Speaker 3: But so that's what happens is you're you're you're your
Speaker 3: voter for that, you're that team. Basically, you know, they
Speaker 3: come in and some some of the good ones will
Speaker 3: collect all this data on your but so the team
Speaker 3: will put together these kind of sheets, these profile sheets
Speaker 3: of why you know, where you rank all time and
Speaker 3: all these different categories, uh, and try to give it
Speaker 3: to your presenter and then it's their job to argue,
Speaker 3: basically argue you in stand on the on the soapbox
Speaker 3: for you and and see where you're in. And you
Speaker 3: know people had different poll in the room. I mean
Speaker 3: you got the Dungeons, you got you got Dungee in there.
Speaker 6: Who's got a lot of pool? You got Bill Polly
Speaker 6: in because you got a ton of poll.
Speaker 3: I have to say I actually ran into uh, Steve
Speaker 3: Hudcheson at the Titans the d of the day and
Speaker 3: I'll never forget he got it. We were in the
Speaker 3: Super Bowl Minnesota, right and he was up for the hot.
Speaker 3: That might have been his first, first, first, or second bout.
Speaker 3: But back then they used to bring you out to
Speaker 3: the hall or to the to the Super Bowl. All
Speaker 3: fifteen finalists and then you get dressed in your tuxedo,
Speaker 3: wife's all dressed up, and you either get a phone
Speaker 3: call saying sorry, I get on the plane, or you know,
Speaker 3: you come down and you get you go to the
Speaker 3: Wars ceremony, you get a Hall of Fame. So I
Speaker 3: see Steve and the dude's just dejected. Right, Steve is
Speaker 3: already drunk anyways, but he he was just like and
Speaker 3: I was, and I see him, and I'm like, you know, I,
Speaker 3: you know, playing with them all those times close for
Speaker 3: as everyone.
Speaker 6: I was like, I'm not even going down, but I could.
Speaker 2: I've never understood it.
Speaker 3: And then I finally understood he got anything on his
Speaker 3: third or fourth, I think third time. But then you
Speaker 3: were talking to Day He's like, Brian, I was like,
Speaker 3: I get it now.
Speaker 6: I give that that emo.
Speaker 2: Beau's like, you.
Speaker 3: Don't really care, but then you care in that brief moment.
Speaker 3: Then you're so pissed off that you allowed somebody to
Speaker 3: let you care about something that really doesn't.
Speaker 6: Affect your life.
Speaker 3: You know, from a standpoint of my wife's not gonna
Speaker 3: love him anymore, my kids aren't gonna think I'm cooler
Speaker 3: the dogs, and I gonna start.
Speaker 2: I definitely, I'm not gonna lie have been better.
Speaker 6: So, yeah, it's it's a weird it's a weird process.
Speaker 6: It's a weird deal.
Speaker 3: But I appreciate you saying that I deserve to be
Speaker 3: in and we'll see, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4: There is somebody and I know who it is, and
Speaker 4: I will not say who it is, but they have
Speaker 4: kept it's a single person, an entity that has kept
Speaker 4: me from hosting the c M A Awards, which is
Speaker 4: the big yeah and so so and I and I
Speaker 4: am like I do the A c MS and like
Speaker 4: reab it did it and I did it like a
Speaker 4: second string up. I'm part of that television broadcast. But
Speaker 4: it's not the same as hosting the awards. I know
Speaker 4: the person's kept me posting CMAS.
Speaker 2: Do you know that? Don't say who it is, But
Speaker 2: do you know who's keeping you on?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: I don't, well yes and no. And part of it
Speaker 3: is is you know less he hears it. Part of
Speaker 3: it is my presenter, right, my presenters, is what it
Speaker 3: sounds like pretty much. Yeah, Well that's the other thing
Speaker 3: about the process. I don't get like we should be
Speaker 3: able to choose our presenters, right, right, I have a
Speaker 3: team representer. Maybe you don't even get to choose somebody
Speaker 3: that knows me well, you get to choose which team
Speaker 3: you want, right, got so like last year, I know
Speaker 3: there was a big push and I love I love Peppers,
Speaker 3: I love Freenie. Pepper's one of my favorite players. The
Speaker 3: white Frenizing is the reason why I became the highest
Speaker 3: paid defensive player in the league in the history of
Speaker 3: the NFL at the time, because he broke the bank
Speaker 3: like Dwight started getting paid. Right, is the one that
Speaker 3: got defensive players to get paid like quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, I nothing I would ever say anybody's
Speaker 3: up for the Hall of Fame is well deserving my book, Right,
Speaker 3: I'm kind of one of these things like, man, either
Speaker 3: if you're gonna be on the file listid I put
Speaker 3: them in?
Speaker 6: Put them in, or don'tut them in. Don't put me
Speaker 6: on the list just to keep me on the list forever.
Speaker 3: But again, so you go through and and I know
Speaker 3: there was a big push, you know, for Dwight to
Speaker 3: get in last year where they were having you know,
Speaker 3: other Hall of Famers were having video conferences with voters,
Speaker 3: and I'm not I'm not I'm not about that. I'm
Speaker 3: not going to kiss the ring. I'm not bound down
Speaker 3: like I'm not. You know, it's like, if you want
Speaker 3: me in on my merit put me in. If not,
Speaker 3: no harm, no fail. I really it is what it is.
Speaker 3: So I know there's there's that aspect, So I don't
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's one particular, one person keeping
Speaker 3: me up.
Speaker 6: I just think it's uh, the nature of the beast.
Speaker 3: And and you know, when you play the game the
Speaker 3: way I played it, you know you kind of get which,
Speaker 3: which is crazy because the characteristics that I want to
Speaker 3: teach my kids that I think are positive hustle, try hard, right,
Speaker 3: you know, basically just you know, being out there making
Speaker 3: sure the fans know that I appreciate them showing up,
Speaker 3: but I love what I do. It actually ends up
Speaker 3: being a negative because they come back and say, like, oh,
Speaker 3: he got on the sacks, says he hustled more than
Speaker 3: other people, Like what that diminishes my talent? Oh he
Speaker 3: tried harder than everybody else. A lot of I'm all right,
Speaker 3: I guess I'm just the try hard hustle.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: That's the label, guy, It's a label. But the thing
Speaker 5: that I always appreciate about is when you play the game. Though,
Speaker 5: the most exciting part for me was always to watch
Speaker 5: your youthful enthusiasm, Like you had fun when you played
Speaker 5: the game, and that that permeated throughout the entire team, right,
Speaker 5: and when you did your sack and you did the
Speaker 5: bull or whatever the heck you do, right, I mean
Speaker 5: that that's the type of stuff that you know, not
Speaker 5: everybody has that there. They have this workman like mentality
Speaker 5: and they're told to act a certain way or do
Speaker 5: it a certain and a certain method of Look, this
Speaker 5: is how you're supposed to act. But just how you
Speaker 5: went out each and every day and we had fun,
Speaker 5: Like that's what made you a great teammate, but that's
Speaker 5: also what made you such a lovable player in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I last year short not to have fun, you know.
Speaker 3: I got to remind myself of that retirement.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you do your homework.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, real life issues. No that, But I
Speaker 3: mean I literally was fortunate. I told my dad when
Speaker 3: I was eight years old, I was gona play professional football.
Speaker 3: Most parents are like, all right, Johnny, like go read
Speaker 3: the books. My dad would drop me off. My dad
Speaker 3: trained rain and cutting horses. So I managed ranches and
Speaker 3: my dad, the rancher lived at the time, was about
Speaker 3: a mile or so from the gate up to our
Speaker 3: double wide trigler because we were high class back then,
Speaker 3: and so I was what was I ten some of
Speaker 3: your and I would run.
Speaker 2: He would make me run every night up to the hill.
Speaker 2: And his whole philosophy is.
Speaker 3: Like, you want to be in the pros, you better eat, sleep,
Speaker 3: drinket because somebody out there is doing more than you are,
Speaker 3: so you better better make sure you're doing the most
Speaker 3: you could ever do. So most parents are like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: have fun, you know, go to go to school. My
Speaker 3: dad was like, you want to be in the boroughs,
Speaker 3: let's get it, and he uh it was. It was
Speaker 3: a hard nosed on it, and but that was that
Speaker 3: was all I ever wanted to do. And so when
Speaker 3: I when I got to play professional football as a
Speaker 3: living and make a living doing it, man, that's there's
Speaker 3: no great. Even on days that sucked, even training camp
Speaker 3: days when you want to be just bitch and complaining
Speaker 3: because it's training camp. You look back and you're like,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm getting paid money to play a game.
Speaker 6: This is dope.
Speaker 4: How many celebrations did you have that didn't work out?
Speaker 4: Because we all know you for the tie, but did
Speaker 4: you ever do like.
Speaker 2: The giddy did you ever have?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: Well, that was the thing, my very first one, first one,
Speaker 3: I got fined five thousand dollars. So my my tied end,
Speaker 3: my buddy, my roommate in college are tied in. Never
Speaker 3: scored a touchdown, right, So I told him, I was like,
Speaker 3: and he had, he had this brilliant sat your a
Speaker 3: touchdown and celebration that he's gonna have, right, So we
Speaker 3: were gonna we were gonna high fight, you know, low
Speaker 3: five and then bring it back around, slap the thigh
Speaker 3: like bodybuilders and flex it out right. That was that
Speaker 3: was I was like, you never got a chance to
Speaker 3: doing to college. My very first sack, I'm doing that
Speaker 3: preseason don't count, but who cares preseasons first preseason game,
Speaker 3: I sacked eight manning. Bamn, I hit that leg, shake
Speaker 3: it out, bam, flex it five thousand dollars for se
Speaker 3: suggested behavior.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that it was the outside of your side.
Speaker 2: Yeah right here are thinking, but he's probably trying to
Speaker 2: they said, they.
Speaker 3: Said, I gotta find well, I didn't get a fine
Speaker 3: because I was a fourth round pick. So there's other
Speaker 3: people with my number on the team. Right, there was
Speaker 3: an undrafted free agent lineman with the number sixty nine.
Speaker 6: They sent him a fine for five thousand dollars. It's like,
Speaker 6: what is oh what he called the league and got
Speaker 6: it sent to me.
Speaker 3: And so in the preseason if you have fined, you
Speaker 3: don't pay it until you get make makes a team.
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, you know you're not making the team, like.
Speaker 6: You know that. It still cost me five grand for that.
Speaker 6: And then I had the vets my first couple of years.
Speaker 3: They would just pick celebrations for me to do, like,
Speaker 3: all right, this week, you're doing the lawnmower. Dallas had
Speaker 3: like two sacks against Dallas one year and jelly roll,
Speaker 3: the original jelly roll Lionel Dalton.
Speaker 6: Uh, He's like, all right this year this game, you're
Speaker 6: doing spirit fingers and high kicks. I'm like, this sucks, bro.
Speaker 6: So finally finally caught on it, and I gotta give it.
Speaker 3: I was actually telling Dustin Coke with yesterday Neil Smith,
Speaker 3: we went out to dinner. Neil Smith got put into
Speaker 3: the Ring of Honor and Hank Junior sang the national
Speaker 3: anthem my game. Okay, So I meet up with Neil
Speaker 3: and then we ended up going out and we went
Speaker 3: to dinner with with Hank Junior afterwards, which is.
Speaker 2: All a whole nother amazing and uh. And so Neil's like, hey.
Speaker 3: Man, I really appreciate you doing my celebration. He's like,
Speaker 3: but you know, you gotta come up with something.
Speaker 2: Of your own.
Speaker 3: So I grew up on a ranch. I grew up
Speaker 3: calf roping, and so that's how we came about it.
Speaker 3: Talkingbot He's like, yeah, it was time up. So when
Speaker 3: you calf rope, you know, you flink your calf, you
Speaker 3: tied through legs, through your hands up. That's when I
Speaker 3: stopped the clock.
Speaker 6: So we just started doing that on our quarterbacks and
Speaker 6: it stuck.
Speaker 2: And then, yeah, did you ever sack me?
Speaker 6: I did several times?
Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate that. I do actually cost you
Speaker 2: with the Chiefs.
Speaker 5: You remember that you two with the Chiefs.
Speaker 6: But no, Dallas, we were playing you, Dallas.
Speaker 3: When I was in Carolina, we were playing Dallas Thanksgiving
Speaker 3: and I was clean off the edge, smoked my guy,
Speaker 3: and you like, just shuffle up.
Speaker 2: I think you got like one yard of flicked it
Speaker 2: away off the castle. You could have just slid. I
Speaker 2: should have. I would have helped you out.
Speaker 6: I think I think I would have tied Richard Dent
Speaker 6: if you were to just taken the sack.
Speaker 5: I mean, I remember being with the Chiefs and you
Speaker 5: come around this edge and I kind of just see
Speaker 5: you in my peripheral and I spun out and I
Speaker 5: just remember.
Speaker 2: You get back up. I got a take off running.
Speaker 2: I'm like running for my life. I'm like, blow the whistle,
Speaker 2: blow the whistle. Is there an honor amongst people that
Speaker 2: know each other?
Speaker 4: If the shot is there, maybe you don't take you
Speaker 4: almost brother in law a bit.
Speaker 2: They never know.
Speaker 3: If I know you, I'm probably hitting harder.
Speaker 2: So if he's their blindside done, Uh, he's gonna try
Speaker 2: to rip my head off. I know about it.
Speaker 3: I mean I'm not gonna know ill will I I've
Speaker 3: never once in my life tried to intentionally hurt anybody.
Speaker 3: But absolutely, at no point would I.
Speaker 6: Take it easy on anybody on the football field.
Speaker 3: Buddy honey, Well, he's gonna not throw the winning touchdown,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like that's I think, Uh,
Speaker 3: actually that's what I respect. That's what I respect about
Speaker 3: like m m A and you know, you know, like
Speaker 3: boxing mm A and uh and and and football, like contact,
Speaker 3: you know, athletic sports. It's like when you're on the field,
Speaker 3: you can be friends. We can be friends afterwards when
Speaker 3: we field healthy respect for each other. Absolutely, we'll laugh
Speaker 3: and joke.
Speaker 4: But loud when you're when you're lined up a quarterback,
Speaker 4: you know where he is by by vocally.
Speaker 5: Well one hundred percent plus. You study the film during
Speaker 5: the week and they always go through like early in
Speaker 5: the week, it goes through game wreckers, so you circle
Speaker 5: the game wreckers and he was always one of those dudes.
Speaker 2: We got to block this guy. We gotta give him
Speaker 2: chip help, we gotta do this.
Speaker 5: But on the field, there's a constant banter going on,
Speaker 5: especially with somebody like him who's got confidence.
Speaker 2: He's a little brash. He's gonna let you.
Speaker 5: Know I'm coming for you, you know, and you just you
Speaker 5: gotta tune it out, especially at my position because I've
Speaker 5: got a lot other crap to think about other than.
Speaker 2: Getting hit from the backside of my head.
Speaker 5: But I mean, so you just gotta I mean, and
Speaker 5: it's it's not just him. It's consistent banter, particularly linebackers
Speaker 5: and defensive lineman.
Speaker 2: It's all day long. Who was the hardest physically guy
Speaker 2: to take down?
Speaker 6: Oh? So Rolisberger is on that list. He's massive. But
Speaker 6: you know who was you remembers guarded.
Speaker 2: From from Jacksonville.
Speaker 6: He was David was a tank.
Speaker 2: He was all for and then like lower body thick too,
Speaker 2: and you could you come in you you know, he
Speaker 2: was tough.
Speaker 3: That really stands out. Roethlisberger was another one. You know
Speaker 3: that was probably the two that come up. Were you
Speaker 3: around could pepper at all?
Speaker 2: I was?
Speaker 5: He's another pepper. He's another massive human. Yep, Like some
Speaker 5: of these guys are just you know that set, lower
Speaker 5: half strength.
Speaker 2: And all that.
Speaker 5: And then when you think about Roethlisberg, he was just
Speaker 5: savvy and elusive and and for a guy his size,
Speaker 5: he wasn't like a quick twitch for example.
Speaker 3: He just knew where to get where to be in
Speaker 3: the pockets to get you Like you know, were most
Speaker 3: guys you could probably come around, grab an arm or
Speaker 3: jersey and get that. But he's he's big and strong
Speaker 3: enough and knows exactly would be where he can shape
Speaker 3: that off and still keep his eyes downfield. Uh, that's
Speaker 3: that was a tough part about him. You weren't You
Speaker 3: weren't afraid of him running. You're afraid of him. You know,
Speaker 3: you get into the quarterback and again him shaking you
Speaker 3: or like as far as like you're missing the sack
Speaker 3: and then you know, standing the play long enough just
Speaker 3: to get downfield, and a lot of a lot of
Speaker 3: the mobile guys when you hit him, they go down. Yeah,
Speaker 3: probably you gotta hit him's So I'm glad I don't
Speaker 3: play anymore than like Lamar Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 5: The game has changed at that position so dramatically. It's wild.
Speaker 2: Who was the most mobile guy you played against?
Speaker 6: Michael Vick? Yeah, that's Michael Vick, absolutely nuts. But do
Speaker 6: you know what scrangepart was?
Speaker 3: We we destroyed him because we just knew how to
Speaker 3: beat him. And I'll never forget. I think it was
Speaker 3: my as my rookie year, and we watched tape and
Speaker 3: we this is no joke, how we practiced to sack him.
Speaker 6: So we knew where he was going to escape.
Speaker 3: So we our whole plan was, we're gonna blitz the
Speaker 3: living crap out of him, and we're gonna make him.
Speaker 6: Escape, right, and when he escapes. We know you want
Speaker 6: to juke.
Speaker 3: You inside, he's gonna try to get the corner, so
Speaker 3: don't fall over the first juke. So our whole, our
Speaker 3: whole practice that week, we would we would come We
Speaker 3: played like basically boot bout legs style. We squeezed that
Speaker 3: a lot of scrimmage, and then we would just run
Speaker 3: to the sidelines and no joke, I gotta sack. I
Speaker 3: tell people, I ran down, ran down Michael Vick because
Speaker 3: he broke out and I just ran this.
Speaker 2: Now, did you shoe string him or you actually? Oh
Speaker 2: my god, Oh my god, that's that's one.
Speaker 6: He did break one. I should have three that game.
Speaker 3: I had two, but yeah, I hawked him down on
Speaker 3: a blot leg because that's coach.
Speaker 6: I just ran to the sideline.
Speaker 4: Anybody who didn't get the thinking back like I never
Speaker 4: got X and that would have been.
Speaker 3: I never got Russell Wilson came very close there, but
Speaker 3: all the other ones. I think that's pretty much everybody.
Speaker 2: It's funny to hear you talk about big quarterback. You're like,
Speaker 2: you're a big dude, but you're not.
Speaker 4: A When I met Eli Manning, it was like probably
Speaker 4: the first NFL player that I.
Speaker 1: Like stood next to, like stood, not just sit. And
Speaker 1: there's a different And I met Elin on television.
Speaker 2: He looks like just a dude, normal dude, and he's
Speaker 2: kind of like, hey, I'm Eli.
Speaker 6: He's sneaky.
Speaker 2: He's a monster.
Speaker 4: Sneaky's yeah, he's I had no idea, but that if
Speaker 4: that's normal, it's a land of months.
Speaker 3: Well it's funny too because in our world either not,
Speaker 3: we don't consider them like a big quarterback like him.
Speaker 4: He walks in here like I'm six one, he's six four,
Speaker 4: he's but he's not big.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Matt, Matt's and I so we we we equate
Speaker 3: in the quarterback where I'm like, so Roethlisberger is a
Speaker 3: big dude, right, Yeah, you're like six six. You look
Speaker 3: at guys like Peyton Eli, I look, we kind of
Speaker 3: think more like on their physical prowess, like you know, Peyton,
Speaker 3: those guys they're gonna get.
Speaker 6: They live on getting the ball out of their hands quick.
Speaker 6: But you, I mean, you breathe on Peyton and.
Speaker 2: They're going to go.
Speaker 3: Is not gonna set himself up to get either, like Brady's.
Speaker 3: Brady's a big athletic guy, but you but his demeanor
Speaker 3: is never like physically overbearing to where there's certain guys
Speaker 3: you're just like, holy crap.
Speaker 6: You know those guys you got to worry.
Speaker 3: About them beating the other physical attributes because they can
Speaker 3: throw the ball, but mentally they know where they're going
Speaker 3: before they go, right, that's what that's there, that's their
Speaker 3: secret sauces.
Speaker 6: They know everything you're going to do and then they
Speaker 6: have a counter for it.
Speaker 3: And so you know when we talk about guys that
Speaker 3: were like, man, these guys are big physical guys.
Speaker 6: You know you.
Speaker 3: You you often led more towards the athletic guys. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, you can't be small and survive in the
Speaker 3: in the league.
Speaker 2: I mean I get that all the time too. It's
Speaker 2: like you're a big dude. I didn't know you're that big.
Speaker 5: I was like, I just look small because our offensive
Speaker 5: linemen are six six, three hundred and twenty and you've
Speaker 5: we just we we are presented in a different way.
Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden, you see me. I'm like,
Speaker 5: comparatively speaking, I'm yeah, I'm a pretty big dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I went to Japan. I was a monster so good.
Speaker 4: Oh dude, it was a great, like I'm taller than
Speaker 4: the average person here. But I'm in Japan on the subway,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, suck it, like I.
Speaker 1: Am a gigantic human.
Speaker 2: But that's what you guys still like you're here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm always like I don't I guess I don't even
Speaker 3: think I'm that big at the time, and then.
Speaker 2: People are like, you're hell big. I'm like, oh, hell,
Speaker 2: that's aid Norang Cow coming drop weight? Or did you
Speaker 2: gain weight after you finished playing?
Speaker 3: No, I'm down probably twenty five pounds. I played like two.
Speaker 3: I played at two fifty five most of my career.
Speaker 3: I'm like thirty two.
Speaker 2: Now is that natural?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Meaning?
Speaker 2: Was it hard?
Speaker 1: Is it worked to drop weight? Where does it work
Speaker 1: to keep I?
Speaker 6: Uh know, I but I'm we like.
Speaker 3: I have my own little mini farm over here. I
Speaker 3: have my own orchard garden where you eat completely organic.
Speaker 3: I try to avoid all all big food everything and
Speaker 3: but no, and then I realized muscleway is more than fat.
Speaker 6: So I just quit working out. So dropped quick. That's
Speaker 6: one to twenty pounds muscle mass.
Speaker 5: And uh, let's be honest, though, how many players that
Speaker 5: we've played with over the years.
Speaker 2: Go the exact Oh you only on one or too?
Speaker 6: Did you guys see Tama Howley on the on the
Speaker 6: Chiefs Stay?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Oh gosh, my stepdad sent me a picture.
Speaker 3: I'm like, first of all, let's not let's not talk
Speaker 3: about how Biky got. Let's talk about the fact that
Speaker 3: dude is rocking a legit skullet. He has no hair
Speaker 3: and he's got braids coming out the beat of it.
Speaker 3: I haven't talked to Tomba in years, and I just
Speaker 3: wonder if you're listening to this at all, Tamba, God
Speaker 3: bless you.
Speaker 1: Yes, Love, rock Daley got skinny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 5: I mean a lot of these guys they go the opposite,
Speaker 5: the opposite way.
Speaker 3: Kyle had to work hardest, Pat Pat Williams dropped one
Speaker 3: hundred pounds.
Speaker 2: It's amazing. Give it.
Speaker 6: Uh, what do you mean you've seen? How you seen
Speaker 6: Jake Long?
Speaker 2: Right, it's drastic changes.
Speaker 3: A lot of it's sucks a big guys that are
Speaker 3: just big because our faces are big. So when our
Speaker 3: bodies get small, our faces like, oh I just got
Speaker 3: a big ass head.
Speaker 2: Your head does stay the same size. Why didn't my
Speaker 2: forehead shrink.
Speaker 4: When I was a baby up until like six, and
Speaker 4: I didn't grow like you guys did. My mom had
Speaker 4: to go slits into my shirt because my head was
Speaker 4: so big because they couldn't didn't fit it through.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: Luckily for me, I chose a life of doing television
Speaker 4: and radio and podcasting. So it works for me because
Speaker 4: there's a large presentation of a face here. Yeah, but
Speaker 4: as an accountant that was solid.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But when you walked into the form people like daddy
Speaker 3: his head, yeah, you would be the big guy.
Speaker 2: I get the circumference of that face like I can
Speaker 2: just like man, that dude that is that is computing
Speaker 2: powers off the charts brain how is huge? I take
Speaker 2: a quick break.
Speaker 4: We have more with Jared Allen coming up on lots
Speaker 4: to say, how are you competing?
Speaker 2: Do you need to compete?
Speaker 4: It something?
Speaker 2: Is it the curl Yes?
Speaker 6: I was up to this year.
Speaker 3: I had a little uh snap foo with USA Curling.
Speaker 3: I got asked to be on Corey dropped in his
Speaker 3: team as an alternate. They kind of blocked it. So
Speaker 3: and the way the Olympic Trials is set up this year,
Speaker 3: the first the top three point setters, which are pretty
Speaker 3: much already set.
Speaker 6: They're automatically and then.
Speaker 3: I have a one like a one one tournament winner
Speaker 3: take all for the fourth spot.
Speaker 6: So next year we'll probably put a team together, try.
Speaker 2: To do that.
Speaker 6: I don't feel the need. I love it. I mean,
Speaker 6: competing is always fun.
Speaker 3: I don't feel the need to compete. I don't think
Speaker 3: I just like having fun, be honest.
Speaker 2: Talking about the curling thing a little bit.
Speaker 5: I got when you got done right, you put you
Speaker 5: compile the team of all x NFL guys, right, it
Speaker 5: was bold?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was when I moved out here about seven
Speaker 3: years ago. So I took a bet from a buddy
Speaker 3: of mine to make the Olympics and.
Speaker 2: Bet, like, what's that be consist of? Like it money? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Well money?
Speaker 2: It really might matter.
Speaker 3: Because he couldn't afford the bet anyway, as he was
Speaker 3: drawing it throughout a stupid number and.
Speaker 2: Sow the best bets happened. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well the first bet was I was supposed to make
Speaker 3: the PGA, a PGA Tour event within three years of retiring.
Speaker 3: So I was playing in the Tahoe Golf tournament and
Speaker 3: I sucked. I was just playing the crap. He's like,
Speaker 3: you have no chance, you guys. He's like, you might
Speaker 3: as well, pay the bet now. And that's so I
Speaker 3: told him. I was like, Okay, put the money in
Speaker 3: escrow right now. You will put the money in escrow
Speaker 3: and I'll match it.
Speaker 2: I'll pay.
Speaker 6: I couldn't do it.
Speaker 3: So then we're over at the house nerves by the fire.
Speaker 3: I'm uh you want, I'm like two for one bearing him,
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, there you go. And so my final
Speaker 3: have my buddies are all there and we'll start talking
Speaker 3: about and I just watched Eddie the Eagle and I
Speaker 3: was like, Moles.
Speaker 2: It was like, let's parlay this, you know, Moles, Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: beautiful human.
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, what a train wreck. Love that guy and
Speaker 3: probably you'll be probably the funniest hum ving on the
Speaker 3: face of the earth. And he's talking about like small
Speaker 3: but he's got like a big nose and so nobody
Speaker 3: actually hit him because they feel bad for him, but
Speaker 3: he just verbally assaults everybody.
Speaker 6: Uh so that's always fun. And so we ended up
Speaker 6: getting this bet.
Speaker 3: And I just watched any Eagle and so I was like, Peter,
Speaker 3: how about we parlay this into me making the Olympics,
Speaker 3: all right?
Speaker 6: And he was like done.
Speaker 3: So I was originally started badminton and then Boulder.
Speaker 2: That's tough. So Bulger I was like, I was like,
Speaker 2: what don't you do with somebody that you know? Right?
Speaker 6: And I was like, all right, Bulger, I just happen
Speaker 6: to run a Bulger.
Speaker 3: You want to try to make the Olympics as a
Speaker 3: badminton player, and he was like, I'm in.
Speaker 6: I was like, let's get it.
Speaker 3: So I literally signed us up for like an average
Speaker 3: Joe how dodgeball tournament, but bad meant up in like
Speaker 3: some Catholic church in Jersey. And he comes with me
Speaker 3: an email and he's like I can't do this. And
Speaker 3: I was like, China national team with these dudes are
Speaker 3: getting after it, Like man, there they're fine. Ten five
Speaker 3: shuttles wh twenty our show is pretty impressive. And he's like,
Speaker 3: my backbone, hold up. I'm like, yeah, I probably might
Speaker 3: not either. I'm like, so we started looking at curling.
Speaker 3: I was like, looking at all the sportstreet you weren't
Speaker 3: very good at and on the website of the it's
Speaker 3: like most people.
Speaker 6: Start in their forties. The loser, the winner has to
Speaker 6: buy the losers beer, and I'm like, this is fantastic.
Speaker 6: I'm in love this.
Speaker 2: So then I was having the bullet.
Speaker 6: Our kids go to school together too, So I'm like, Keith,
Speaker 6: you want to try to make it limbusy. He's like, yep,
Speaker 6: I'm in.
Speaker 3: So then Roos has having done with Russ and Roos
Speaker 3: is like six six nine hundred pounds c literally talking
Speaker 3: about a big guy man.
Speaker 6: He's like six seven I think six seven.
Speaker 3: Six eight, like three thirty and uh my, rous you
Speaker 3: want to curl and get the dancing bear on the arts?
Speaker 2: He was like, I mean, did you actually like it? Oh?
Speaker 6: It's so much fun. I absolutely love it.
Speaker 2: I love it now. It's it's tough because there's like.
Speaker 3: A four they are like all four eight tournaments, right,
Speaker 3: but we've traveled all over the world in Switzerland played
Speaker 3: and uh uh we've we've qualified for four nationals. I've
Speaker 3: played four four nationals, no, no joke. I actually have
Speaker 3: a silver metal of a silver medal nationalist curler. So
Speaker 3: my first year Rich Runs team asked me to be
Speaker 3: the alternate for nationals, which is great. I'm like, lord,
Speaker 3: great learning experience. We just practiced all that, but they
Speaker 3: were whooping everybody. So I got to play like eight ens, right,
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 6: I was. I was the guy coming in the fourth
Speaker 6: courting preseason.
Speaker 2: I did it, and I did it a lot, don't worry, And.
Speaker 3: I was coming in and getting after it right dead time,
Speaker 3: and and.
Speaker 6: So I played a leader. I didn't even think.
Speaker 3: I'm like, there's no way that they taking second place.
Speaker 3: They lost the shuster and I got a freaking silver
Speaker 3: medal in the in the middle, and I'm like, there's
Speaker 3: nothing about this sport that.
Speaker 2: Makes your bed, But yes, it's fun.
Speaker 3: I I realized though, curl I'm i'm i'm my competitive spirit.
Speaker 3: I am very competitive obviously, but my competitive scrilling doesn't
Speaker 3: necessarily or conspirit doesn't necessarily always translate to curling. Because
Speaker 3: they have a thing called in the spirit of curling,
Speaker 3: they're supposed to be nice to each other. And in
Speaker 3: my first couple of years, we'd get off the ice
Speaker 3: getting beat. I would shatter brooms in the locker room
Speaker 3: and scare the piss and everybody. And curlers are dorks, Like, honestly,
Speaker 3: I love them to death, but it's like bean counters.
Speaker 3: They're all like quantum physics, like engineers, and they're all
Speaker 3: wick and smart, and I'm just like, uh so when
Speaker 3: a six sixth dude comes in and shadows a broom.
Speaker 6: Everybody's like, oh, some.
Speaker 5: Of you're not allowed to talk any crap whatsoever on
Speaker 5: the ice.
Speaker 2: It's fun.
Speaker 6: It's frownd him.
Speaker 3: I was very passive aggressive. It's like, nice shot, and
Speaker 3: you're like, you know that wasn't nice shot.
Speaker 6: I just missed.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 6: It so stupid.
Speaker 2: Oh that's so good. You keep up with the vikings
Speaker 2: at all? Now I do. I do.
Speaker 3: I don't watch a lot of football enough just to
Speaker 3: you know, not be dumb when I get on the
Speaker 3: radio or whatever.
Speaker 2: But I do.
Speaker 3: And I'm stoked that no one will thought we were
Speaker 3: going this route, and it makes my uh not keep
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins comment make like a lot more.
Speaker 2: Was that the big take for a while?
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, well I got I didn't throw the bus,
Speaker 6: although I think the organization wasn't the happiest.
Speaker 3: I got calls from everybody just because I was asked
Speaker 3: if they should resign Kurt, and I said, no, I don't know, Kurt.
Speaker 3: Kurt makes as much money as you can. Let's keep
Speaker 3: the game of the game, God bless you, and he has.
Speaker 3: But I'm like, we cannot go out and pay forty
Speaker 3: million dollars a year right for what he's you know,
Speaker 3: if he's supposed to be. We we went five. He
Speaker 3: was having the best year of his career and we
Speaker 3: went five hundred. Right, we were like four and four
Speaker 3: when he got hurt. We came in with guys that
Speaker 3: literally I think they took somebody off a Southwest flight
Speaker 3: and put him in a quarterback.
Speaker 6: Like four and five.
Speaker 3: You know, like it doesn't make sense to spend money
Speaker 3: on that. Go get a draft pick, which they did.
Speaker 3: And I think Kevin's a phenomenal coach and Corazy is
Speaker 3: a great GM because Grazy does a great job of
Speaker 3: taking all the analytics right. So I mean it's kind
Speaker 3: of like two philosophy the NFL. Right, you got guys
Speaker 3: that are solely film driven or player driven, then you
Speaker 3: got guys are solely analytics driven. What I think the
Speaker 3: Vikings are doing a great job right now. They're using
Speaker 3: the analytics to get the players that Kevin wants, right,
Speaker 3: and then Kevin us.
Speaker 6: Kevin's so humble.
Speaker 3: That he you know, he he works with guy and
Speaker 3: you can just you can see the vibe that guys have.
Speaker 3: You can see what Brian Floor is doing there. You
Speaker 3: know they're gonna put guys in the best position to
Speaker 3: be successful, not necessarily put guys for their you know,
Speaker 3: for their system to be successful.
Speaker 1: If that makes sense, Well, what do you think about
Speaker 1: the quarterback situation?
Speaker 2: We're talking about it. We will not lead you in
Speaker 2: any direction. We have our thoughts. But what's happened with
Speaker 2: Donald slash? Do you sign them?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 6: I don't think, I don't think you pay them.
Speaker 3: I mean you got to look at I mean I think,
Speaker 3: I mean, now you win a super Bowl with them,
Speaker 3: where you get the NFC championship game, he's going to
Speaker 3: get paid.
Speaker 6: But here's the problem, and this is what Sam is
Speaker 6: probably going a lot long.
Speaker 3: He's you're when you're a top pick, you go to
Speaker 3: a crappy team, and then he went to another crappy team.
Speaker 6: So now we're on the team that has parts and pieces.
Speaker 3: You got to Sam, Donald's not the guy, and you know,
Speaker 3: just in the same way like you know, but you
Speaker 3: have success if he if he takes them in and
Speaker 3: let's say you go deep in the playoffs, a crappy
Speaker 3: team is going to sign him to try to be
Speaker 3: the guy, and they're not going to surround him with
Speaker 3: the pieces. And I think that's what the Vikings have done. Great,
Speaker 3: they're not making Sam try to beat everybody, But what
Speaker 3: you want a guy that can do You hate to
Speaker 3: use her a game manager, but I always say, like,
Speaker 3: just don't screw it up.
Speaker 6: Hand the ball off, throw your time to I.
Speaker 3: Mean with Justin Jeffers said, I think I can play
Speaker 3: quarterback and be decent. But I don't know that you
Speaker 3: can pay him what he's going to be acquired because now,
Speaker 3: but I don't.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be opposed for this star. I wouldn't be
Speaker 3: opposed if they could get him at somewhat a bargain.
Speaker 3: That's another one you wantin yeah, twenty.
Speaker 6: In this in this market, twenty five a.
Speaker 2: Year, I was saying, thirty five forty.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't. I wouldn't pay him. Thirty five to forty.
Speaker 2: Fifty is like top tier. That's the two. That's the
Speaker 2: I just don't think you.
Speaker 3: Can pay him thirty five forty based on one but
Speaker 3: one year's body of work, right, because if you have,
Speaker 3: you got to look over the the totality of what
Speaker 3: he's done. And yeah, there's circumstances, but I if you,
Speaker 3: if you could get him for some thirty, I would say, yeah,
Speaker 3: let let JJ sit back there and uh and suck it.
Speaker 6: Up for a couple of years.
Speaker 5: I think also the from a quarterback perspective, he goes
Speaker 5: into this offseason says, yes, somebody might offer me that
Speaker 5: fifty forty five, say forty just based on what he
Speaker 5: did last year, but you're going to a worst team.
Speaker 2: So I think Minnesota's bargaining power.
Speaker 5: Is the fact that if you give me a fair
Speaker 5: market deal and within the realm of what we were
Speaker 5: just talking about, now he knows he can come back
Speaker 5: and has success because he's seen the other side of it,
Speaker 5: right the other side of the Jets, in the Panthers
Speaker 5: and now being thrown to the Wolves and saying, you
Speaker 5: know what, this guy, maybe he's a bus he's no good.
Speaker 5: Goes to the forty nine er, see how a real
Speaker 5: organization's run. Then he comes here and he has his
Speaker 5: first real team and supporting casts around him. He has
Speaker 5: a tremendous amount of success. If I'm him, I'm going
Speaker 5: to take a little bit of a pay cut to
Speaker 5: come back to an organization that believes in me, that
Speaker 5: I led this year, that I have the locker room
Speaker 5: everything else. Because that's going to create more longevity in
Speaker 5: the long run for you as a player, versus now
Speaker 5: you go test the waters again and you go and
Speaker 5: you're at a rebuilding.
Speaker 3: Oh, I agree. The only downfall is that you know,
Speaker 3: you have a top Where do they take jj att
Speaker 3: ten ten?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: You have a top ten pit, So you have a
Speaker 3: couple of down games. You know how the fans are.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's every team. That's the nature of the beast,
Speaker 3: theajure the beasts. So I think, yeah, I would, I
Speaker 3: hope they would look at it. I think what he's
Speaker 3: done has been amazing. I think, I be honest, I
Speaker 3: just I love seeing I love seeing under I like
Speaker 3: to see like the rejuvenation of people's clubs.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: But I think the most important thing to look at too,
Speaker 3: and I always say this, when you got guys that
Speaker 3: are clearly good players, right, You'll see it when guys
Speaker 3: switch teams and they have a dramatic dip or something.
Speaker 3: It's usually coaching, right, you know, It's it's how your
Speaker 3: coaches can make a huge difference on how they manage you, right,
Speaker 3: and and how what what that stress level looks like.
Speaker 3: I mean again, you got you have an overbearant coach
Speaker 3: who wants full control. You know, you might not get
Speaker 3: the best out of that player.
Speaker 5: Russell Wilson is a great exam guy, went to what
Speaker 5: eight Pro Bowls in the ten year span, won a
Speaker 5: Super Bowl, goes to Denver. Not in the great situation
Speaker 5: with the with Hackett in there is their new head coach.
Speaker 5: He gets fired by the end of the season. Sean
Speaker 5: Payton comes in. He's one of those guys control. It's
Speaker 5: his way. There's no in between, right, there's no middle.
Speaker 5: It's black and white, you know. And he didn't have
Speaker 5: a bad season last year, that's the crazy part about it.
Speaker 5: But they just don't want to pay him. They release him.
Speaker 5: Now he's on the Steelers and he's probably got a
Speaker 5: better supporting cast and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: But what if they won nine straight?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's amazing how much environment and situation
Speaker 5: impact players.
Speaker 3: And I don't think enough players look at that when
Speaker 3: when they're making decisions, right, I mean, it's understanding the
Speaker 3: environment you're going into is huge. Like so I can
Speaker 3: see Donald now depending on what New York that the
Speaker 3: Giants do, right, I mean, the ball is supposed to
Speaker 3: be this offensive genius guru, But who do they have?
Speaker 3: So if I'm Sam, I'm going to this year, you know,
Speaker 3: I look at a who's who's my who's my offensive staff?
Speaker 6: Right? And then who's my supporting cast?
Speaker 3: Like you know, just I don't know what did they
Speaker 3: do down in Tampa if they paid you know, Mayfield
Speaker 3: or not.
Speaker 2: They get alien?
Speaker 6: So yeah, I just don't know where where does he go?
Speaker 2: Well, did the Vikings have any I mean, we're giving
Speaker 2: Donald all the power in the situation, but did the
Speaker 2: Vikings want to pay him thirty million? Thirty five million?
Speaker 2: Would they do that? Do you think?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 6: I think I think the way Quazi's is going to
Speaker 6: look at it, I mean I.
Speaker 2: Think, like, do they want them back?
Speaker 3: I mean I think you'd be dumb to say you
Speaker 3: don't want him back. I mean because I mean, look
Speaker 3: look at the success you have. I think any coach,
Speaker 3: any organization wants consistency. So if you have consistency, they
Speaker 3: obviously know what they have. But you know, they put
Speaker 3: JJ down.
Speaker 6: For a reason.
Speaker 3: Best thing for him, I think, best thing for Sam
Speaker 3: because it created no tension, no controversy. Right, So again,
Speaker 3: I think it all depends on where you end up.
Speaker 3: Where you end up in the playoffs. I mean, look
Speaker 3: at the North. The North is stupid good, right, and
Speaker 3: the Bears are only going to get better, right, And
Speaker 3: that's so that's another situation you look like, look at
Speaker 3: where the Bear should probably be, what capab Willings should
Speaker 3: be if they had the proper coaching staff in there,
Speaker 3: you know, because they went out and spent money this offseason.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's just been one of those unfortunate things
Speaker 5: for Caleb.
Speaker 2: He's had his own growing pains.
Speaker 5: He hasn't played well of times, but again he's got
Speaker 5: a supporting cast around him. They've got to get better
Speaker 5: on the offensive line, absolutely, But like you said, the
Speaker 5: North is and they're young Detroit, Minnesota, and then you
Speaker 5: got Chicago.
Speaker 3: So I think I think the Vikings are in a
Speaker 3: situation where they absolutely would would take them back for
Speaker 3: the right circumstances. And you got a top ten pick
Speaker 3: that you can groom for two years. I mean you
Speaker 3: look at the success guys that have sat for a
Speaker 3: couple of years have had. Look at Aaron Rodgers, look
Speaker 3: at Jordan Love. I think you can there's probably a
Speaker 3: handful of other that that you could. You can name
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, right, I mean, so you look at guys
Speaker 3: that you know, so I think if you could get
Speaker 3: Donald on a two year I mean even if you
Speaker 3: get him on like a two year I don't.
Speaker 6: Know, seventy something like that.
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe it's worth it two years sixty, uh,
Speaker 3: just to kind of stop you up that and have
Speaker 3: some consistency going forward.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because the North is tough.
Speaker 3: So I think they do want him back, but I
Speaker 3: think it's but the Vikings, I think are in a
Speaker 3: great position because they can stay strong to the price
Speaker 3: that they have. They have they have the guy that
Speaker 3: they want in the in the in the future, and
Speaker 3: where's he going to go.
Speaker 5: But that's the thing with JJ, You're you're also you
Speaker 5: have to make the decision based on the fact you're
Speaker 5: rolling the dice. JJ has not taken a snap in
Speaker 5: the NFL. He came from a program in Michigan under
Speaker 5: Jim hart Ball where they ran the football. Now, I'm
Speaker 5: not taking anything away from j. J. McCarthy because I
Speaker 5: watched him in person, and this dude's legit, Like, he
Speaker 5: makes plays, he can extend plays, he's got a great arm.
Speaker 5: But again, it was a very run first offensive unit
Speaker 5: and they were just better than their opponents, and then
Speaker 5: all of a sudden you say, okay, we're gonna let
Speaker 5: him step in and take over. Which Minnesota throws the
Speaker 5: ball a lot more than they did at Michigan. So
Speaker 5: it'll just be interesting to see how that looks right
Speaker 5: moving forward, if they believe that JJ is the guy
Speaker 5: that can step in day one as a first, first
Speaker 5: time starter basically in this league and pick up where
Speaker 5: they left off this year. Because you're trying to go,
Speaker 5: especially with the direction, like I said, of that division.
Speaker 3: That's the problem, right, I don't think any I'll be honest,
Speaker 3: I didn't expect to be tended too.
Speaker 6: I didn't expect them, you know.
Speaker 3: I was like, man, if we could get to we
Speaker 3: if we have a five hundred, or if we're slightly here,
Speaker 3: I am, I'm like, we like I'm still a part
Speaker 3: of the organization. I just well, well my name's in
Speaker 3: the stadium, so I figured I could say we got
Speaker 3: away with it. Crazy is probably like you have zero
Speaker 3: pool shut up. So but I think I think if
Speaker 3: they can literally I viewed Donald's as a stop gap, right,
Speaker 3: but you can't because you know, if if we would
Speaker 3: have been five hundred, maybe even.
Speaker 6: Into the playoffs wildcard. I mean still might be the wildcard.
Speaker 3: But you know what I mean, if you're if you're okay,
Speaker 3: everybody'll be like, dang o' conlin's gonna be coach of
Speaker 3: the year.
Speaker 2: If he's not, Flores might be coach of the year.
Speaker 2: What he's doing there, d.
Speaker 6: Just killing it. So he might be gone. We'll see
Speaker 6: what happens there. But then you tell Donald, so it's like.
Speaker 3: You can't, like, you're right, you know, if you're not
Speaker 3: in this position where you're literally fighting, you know, one
Speaker 3: of the league's best records, you can't go backwards.
Speaker 4: He's also twenty seven, which helps to if you are
Speaker 4: thirty three, it would be a different story as well.
Speaker 3: Well, right, you're coming off an Achilles, you're coming off that.
Speaker 3: So the Vikers were like, we can't, we can't do that, right,
Speaker 3: And so you you you find lightning and bottle of
Speaker 3: Sam Donald, I think you got to write it on
Speaker 3: as long as possible. But and again, I just I'm
Speaker 3: trying to think of all the teams throughout the league
Speaker 3: right now. I don't know where he goes to get
Speaker 3: a big payday that's going to give him the supporting
Speaker 3: cast Minnesota. So I'm with you. I take a pick cut.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean you're gonna you're gonna get increase
Speaker 3: to make a what ten year now?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you guys are smart and retired, right, Remember
Speaker 4: when you were twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, did
Speaker 4: you smart?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Exactly what it was?
Speaker 4: It was, I need to make sure I can get paid,
Speaker 4: so I can because what you know, the average player
Speaker 4: plays for so long and injuries.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think I think he's in a situation where,
Speaker 3: you know, he's definitely he's caught the eye of the
Speaker 3: of the entire league, right right, and there's gonna be
Speaker 3: there's gonna be unfair expectations put on him. And I think,
Speaker 3: like you said, he's got the unique privilege though, of
Speaker 3: knowing what the other end looks like.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 3: I remember most young guys like myself, I mean, we
Speaker 3: were just you know, I come off leaving the league
Speaker 3: in sacks from getting paid. I will go anywhere over
Speaker 3: my handle dirt, you know, let me come. But at
Speaker 3: the end of the day too, I mean I had
Speaker 3: a chance to go to Tampa. It was between Tampa Minnesota,
Speaker 3: and Minnesota was a better fit for me based on
Speaker 3: who they had with with the D line, I mean
Speaker 3: Pat and Kevin Williams, you know, Ray Edwards. On the
Speaker 3: other side, you had Antonine w Field, like we had
Speaker 3: we had guy Adrian Peterson. So you know, guys look
Speaker 3: at that because you do want to win Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: And then from a quarterback position, you know super Bowls, playoffs,
Speaker 3: wins matter, right, you know those other positions defensive guys,
Speaker 3: stats matter for almost right, I mean all wins matter, right.
Speaker 6: You want to win.
Speaker 3: But my career is not judged, but my winner lost record.
Speaker 3: Sam Donald's career will be a judge by his winner
Speaker 3: loss record, right, And so I think he's got to
Speaker 3: take that into accountability or take that into account when
Speaker 3: he's when he's looking at this and again, I mean,
Speaker 3: he knows what it's like to be on a crappy
Speaker 3: team with all the expectations riding on you.
Speaker 5: And I understand what Bobby saying, he's.
Speaker 2: A year if it's not.
Speaker 5: Everybody looks at it like as a player, a lot
Speaker 5: of time, you're trying to capitalize and make the most
Speaker 5: money that you can because you know that tomorrow's not
Speaker 5: promised because of the injury rate. You also know that hey,
Speaker 5: when you fall out a favor, you have an up
Speaker 5: and down year or whatever, they're looking for the next
Speaker 5: best thing, and you're replaceable. Everybody in this league is replaceable.
Speaker 5: And so I understand what you're saying. If somebody comes
Speaker 5: in and says, hey, we'll give you fifty million dollars
Speaker 5: a year, and you're getting thirty five over here, that's
Speaker 5: fifteen more, you're like, I can deal with some of
Speaker 5: these guys.
Speaker 2: We'll figure it out. Make sure he's guaranteed, Yeah, make sure.
Speaker 2: And that's what.
Speaker 5: So many of these guys now, they're signing guaranteed deals,
Speaker 5: especially if you're coming to be the franchise guy, that
Speaker 5: there's guaranteed.
Speaker 2: Now, it's not Wan Soto money really, but what is
Speaker 2: what it? Ever has been talking about this.
Speaker 6: But he's only fifty million year. Patrick Mahomes making fifty
Speaker 6: million year.
Speaker 1: It's seven hundred million over fifteen years.
Speaker 2: Fifty is good.
Speaker 6: Pat's making five hundred over ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But yeah, he doesn't get hit, true, he just
Speaker 2: has to.
Speaker 6: Hit and it's guaranteed that dude could break his leg
Speaker 6: tomorrow and.
Speaker 2: Make That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Three quarters of a billion dollars.
Speaker 4: Wild and the difference is so to think about baseball
Speaker 4: and this is the strong and I love baseball and
Speaker 4: grew up, but I don't love it as much because
Speaker 4: it's not as fun. There aren't as many stars, it
Speaker 4: doesn't have the room. But think of just go, yeah,
Speaker 4: he's a big star. Let's go the biggest Starlet's watch.
Speaker 4: Let's say you're watching baseball, though you only see Otani
Speaker 4: bat one out of every nine times.
Speaker 2: He doesn't even play the field. But even imagine plays
Speaker 2: the field.
Speaker 4: He may make four or five plays a game, so
Speaker 4: you're seeing him a total of like six minutes a game,
Speaker 4: the biggest star in baseball.
Speaker 2: So and again, how is the He's coming back this year? Guys,
Speaker 2: he'll be on the mountain this year. If you yes,
Speaker 2: I mean that's what makes.
Speaker 1: Him Baseball football different.
Speaker 2: You're the quarterback.
Speaker 4: You're and I'm just like a marketing and amount of
Speaker 4: being of being seen quarterback. You're seen all the time.
Speaker 4: So when you compare my homes, you're like, but he
Speaker 4: makes it. But he is on camera at least sixty
Speaker 4: five percent of the entire broad in telecast. Right, yeah,
Speaker 4: so and sodo is not so true.
Speaker 1: He comes about one of nine times gets a ball
Speaker 1: hit to him occasion.
Speaker 2: Are they even on network television anymore? Once a week
Speaker 2: on Apple?
Speaker 4: It's like the hard broadcast to find All right, we
Speaker 4: have one question each and we'll wrap this up.
Speaker 2: I'll go first.
Speaker 4: You ever have to hide an injury while you play
Speaker 4: so they don't take advantage of it.
Speaker 3: Not so they won't take advantage of it, so you
Speaker 3: don't get a non football related injury.
Speaker 6: I tore my peck. Most of my injuries came from
Speaker 6: doing dumb stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh you didn't want the team to know.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so I tore my peck. My right it's
Speaker 3: still torn. I never fixed it. I tore my right
Speaker 3: peck wakeboarding, and I was literally just like a couple
Speaker 3: of weeks before OTA's started and I was out wakeboarding
Speaker 3: screwing around dragging my arm in the water, and it caught.
Speaker 6: I just freaking ripped it.
Speaker 3: So I was like, oh dude, my whole arm was
Speaker 3: just beat just purple from my chest down to my arm.
Speaker 3: And so I iced it for like ten days, got it,
Speaker 3: got got through tas, and I never do anything. So
Speaker 3: they probably wondered why why Jersey It was bad as
Speaker 3: a mini camp actually, so I put my put my
Speaker 3: shoulder harness on because I had an acy joint issue before.
Speaker 6: So I went out there, came back in after practice.
Speaker 6: I was like, ah, show you know. I think I
Speaker 6: tweaked my.
Speaker 2: Pack a little bit. Man. He was like, document was like,
Speaker 2: tweaked it.
Speaker 3: He's like, your peck is completely torn. I was like,
Speaker 3: so what what is that? What are we doing here?
Speaker 3: And he's like surgery is only cosmetic, Like what's your
Speaker 3: pain tolerance? Can you operate? I played the right side,
Speaker 3: so I went in my left side of the body.
Speaker 3: I was like, well, I'm good. How did you do it?
Speaker 2: I was like, clearly, I was like other day, but
Speaker 2: this happened. Oh.
Speaker 6: The other one was deer hunting. I fell. I was,
Speaker 6: I was Kansas City.
Speaker 3: I still have the scar on my even rookie, You're
Speaker 3: sitting here and we get ready to play uh Indianapolis
Speaker 3: and I was out. I shot too deer and uh
Speaker 3: I did I SHO had three tags? I shot three.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to say. I felt like three was
Speaker 3: like three was like O noxious to say. But anyways,
Speaker 3: I felt all my tags, let's put it that way.
Speaker 3: So I'm dragging them back and are on the other side.
Speaker 3: Of the barber our fence.
Speaker 6: I come over.
Speaker 3: As I'm climbing over the fence, the little d ring
Speaker 3: on the barber on the on the post snaps right,
Speaker 3: and I got a barb stuck into my uh nether regions,
Speaker 3: so to speak, right into my I'm like, oh, crap
Speaker 3: in my fermal artery, right, So.
Speaker 2: How do you blame that on? Mini? Can no come
Speaker 2: up with something?
Speaker 3: I get the bar about right, I get these deer
Speaker 3: processed and everything, and I get my buddy and I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, I'm like, man, I'm like covered in blood.
Speaker 6: I don't know the world is blood's coming from deer?
Speaker 6: And that was that big of a deal. And I
Speaker 6: looked down at my hand is completely filayed back, I'll
Speaker 6: see the tendons of my thumb.
Speaker 3: So I called my buddy was farm I want I'm like,
Speaker 3: I gotta get to a doctor, like.
Speaker 2: Low key sorry, no, no, Joey, I think you took
Speaker 2: me to the vet, all right, it took me.
Speaker 3: I was a small town of freaking Kansas city or
Speaker 3: up and sorry up in northern Kansas or up northern
Speaker 3: Missouri like Gallas of Missouri area.
Speaker 6: And I'm in a small.
Speaker 3: Town getting in there washing out and give me some
Speaker 3: pills because I got deer blood just mixed with my blood.
Speaker 3: And it was like, here, take this so you don't
Speaker 3: get limes and seas. I'm all right, stitch me. I
Speaker 3: think I had like thirty five or twenty five stitching
Speaker 3: or something like that, and I might So.
Speaker 6: I go into the U, go into the training room.
Speaker 6: Next day, I'm like hey, but I was like, I
Speaker 6: need a I need a pad for my hand.
Speaker 2: Why.
Speaker 3: He was like why as the end of my truck
Speaker 3: last night, I slept on the running boards and uh
Speaker 3: went to grab the door, sliced my hand open, just
Speaker 3: went down to hear the carriage stitching up, like that's
Speaker 3: not min I just looked at me and he was
Speaker 3: like that story going with.
Speaker 2: I said, well, I'm going you see my contract. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of red.
Speaker 3: Pad right there, just too uh and I'm four backs
Speaker 3: the balls that game?
Speaker 2: What the hell?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 2: So? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Nothing never to hide, you know. I felt like if
Speaker 6: I'm on the if I'm on the field, like I'm
Speaker 6: able to play.
Speaker 3: I played through torn MCL's a C joints, broken foot.
Speaker 6: I played the Super Roll with a broken foot, busted
Speaker 6: L five in my back. I was fine, so kind kind.
Speaker 2: Of way it is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think I've had anything where I'm jumping
Speaker 5: over Barbara fences or doing anything like that.
Speaker 2: I mean hiding injury. The only time is when I.
Speaker 5: Thought I was going into a contract here and I
Speaker 5: knew that it was gonna like I sublux my kneecap
Speaker 5: coming from the Patriots and my knee was super swollen.
Speaker 2: But I knew I got traded to Kansas City.
Speaker 5: Hey, speaking of pay day, I'm going yes, So so
Speaker 5: I was like, gosh, I mean this thing was swollen
Speaker 5: like this, I'm supposed to go there that week, and
Speaker 5: I was like I was icing it, taking all the
Speaker 5: anti inflammatories, doing all that stuff. And I get in
Speaker 5: and they take, you know, all the X rays and
Speaker 5: the MRIs to make sure that you're healthy enough.
Speaker 2: Like well, your knee, there's something going on with your
Speaker 2: knee hair. I was like, no, I feel good, right, like.
Speaker 5: Obviously no, Seriously, They're like, yeah, it's pretty messed up,
Speaker 5: like they might need to do something to it. And
Speaker 5: I was like, no, I'm good, Seriously, I feel great.
Speaker 5: I played the later, yeah, and I passed the physical
Speaker 5: somehow some way, and like we're good.
Speaker 2: To go. I was like, yes, let's go.
Speaker 5: But it's a scary thought because especially when it's going
Speaker 5: to impact you. You're set up to go, you know, financially,
Speaker 5: make your pay day or whatever you might do, or
Speaker 5: even make the team next year. Because you get hurt
Speaker 5: and you go into an offseason, you've got an injury
Speaker 5: that is going to be long lasting.
Speaker 2: You don't want to go and have surgery. Like I
Speaker 2: tore my bicep. Tended. There's a hole right there.
Speaker 5: I know it looks swooll, but it's actually the bicep
Speaker 5: rolled down in there, and they said you can reattach it.
Speaker 5: I was like, how long is that gonna take? Like
Speaker 5: four or five months? I was like, no chance. They're like,
Speaker 5: do I need it? They're like, no, you just might
Speaker 5: use it, lose a little bit of velocity early on
Speaker 5: and all that stuff. And I was like, fine, not
Speaker 5: gonna worry about it, because when you're I'm not playing.
Speaker 5: Brady once said it, He's like, you never want to
Speaker 5: see somebody else doing your job because if somebody else
Speaker 5: steps in and plays, and this is the same general
Speaker 5: conversation and they play and they do really well, they
Speaker 5: might have your job.
Speaker 2: Wally pip.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the legendary Wally right. Yeah, lost his
Speaker 1: job because he got hurt.
Speaker 3: Will they say, no one loses their job to injury.
Speaker 3: That's unless you drew bloodsone. That's true, so true, I
Speaker 3: mean that's not I mean, it is.
Speaker 6: True that way.
Speaker 3: I you know, I think most most great players feel
Speaker 3: like or even competitive players.
Speaker 6: Guys that are on the field feel like, if I'm seventy.
Speaker 3: Percent, I'm going I'm better than the guy you know
Speaker 3: behind me, and this is a distract the guy behind me.
Speaker 3: You just feel, that's just minds that you have to have.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, and then if we have injury reports.
Speaker 6: Too, so it's not like you can really hide injuries
Speaker 6: because you get caught hiding an injury.
Speaker 2: EI.
Speaker 6: There's draft picks, you know, there's all sorts.
Speaker 3: Of punishment, you know, yeah, things Now they actually throw
Speaker 3: people on injury reports that don't even hurt.
Speaker 2: Right, They'll check you to put everybody on it. Brady
Speaker 2: was on it. Brady was on it for like ten
Speaker 2: years straight with his shoulder. You have a shoulder issue.
Speaker 2: We have only created a segment earlier, we didn't know.
Speaker 4: We call it the uh the text flex were he
Speaker 4: was gonna text Coach Belichick rafter here and be like
Speaker 4: congrats on the North Carolina job.
Speaker 2: And so I decided to flex a text.
Speaker 4: Dan Landing to text me today from Oregon, which I
Speaker 4: was like, off flesh break, So flex a text. Who's
Speaker 4: somebody you got a text from recently that we think
Speaker 4: would be super cool?
Speaker 2: Nobody? Now come on, you got I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't hang out in those circles.
Speaker 4: I don't hang out with Landing out he's in an Oregon, Yeah,
Speaker 4: just to say what up?
Speaker 2: Just to be like, yeah, that's uh, you need to
Speaker 2: get out of your little bubble, you know what you know?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 6: Kid Rock's brother texted me the other day to say,
Speaker 6: you know, he was watching.
Speaker 3: Bob's brother Billy text me, honestly, I don't hang out
Speaker 3: in those circles.
Speaker 2: Well, how about how about we don't hang out with
Speaker 2: the people either.
Speaker 4: It's just like it was cool that did send you
Speaker 4: a text at all in the past A couple of weeks,
Speaker 4: A couple of weeks, let's go month, year, year, career.
Speaker 6: No, so well last month or two, I guess Dan Smiers.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, just because that's you.
Speaker 1: Guys will know that's that's not to say what's up just.
Speaker 6: Because they's my old neighbors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, check it out.
Speaker 3: So that they were coming over, I haven't talked to you,
Speaker 3: like six months of coming over about it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, perfect, we appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 6: Oh my pleasure.
Speaker 2: Yeah. This was actually brought Matt's tex. Matt was like, hey,
Speaker 2: you want to do the podcast with me about right there? Yeah? Boy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then I get to meet Bobby BoA's on
Speaker 3: the radio all the time.
Speaker 4: You know, we have mutual friends that love you. They're like,
Speaker 4: Jared is the best. So they lie Ali, but they
Speaker 4: weren't the time. They they're right on. So we really
Speaker 4: appreciate you coming by. And I won't even say it again,
Speaker 4: but I felt a little weird, and I don't want
Speaker 4: this to be weird as you walk out. But as
Speaker 4: you walk past the door, I was the youngest member
Speaker 4: ever in the Radio Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: You'll see that up there.
Speaker 4: I don't want you to take that and like feel
Speaker 4: that as you walk. It's right, it's a big picture,
Speaker 4: says Hall of that's right, youngest person ever in it.
Speaker 2: But it's not. I don't want you to feel anything
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 3: I won't see that's that should be the flex Like,
Speaker 3: how do I how do I set down my guests
Speaker 3: and make them have an accomplishment?
Speaker 2: Send me to pet for you, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I was shooting for the oldest guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, right, I will lobby those folks like they
Speaker 4: have never been lobbying.
Speaker 3: And next up, fifteen times finalist, all right, walking in like, hey,
Speaker 3: thank you.
Speaker 2: There's some of that.
Speaker 3: But I mean there are some of those guys that
Speaker 3: switch over to the legend side. That's why I'm like,
Speaker 3: I like the way the baseball. This last thing I'll
Speaker 3: say about the last I like the way the baseball
Speaker 3: does it because I think, to me, it's very transparent.
Speaker 3: You're on there, they'll hake as many players, and you
Speaker 3: get seventy percent of the vote.
Speaker 2: You should get in.
Speaker 3: You can have one hundred in the class, you can
Speaker 3: have none in the class. Right, it's just there.
Speaker 6: It is.
Speaker 2: You need a percentage of the vote.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 4: And that's riders. I mean, riders are pretty dumb now.
Speaker 4: But I do like how I like the voter of
Speaker 4: the NFL Hall of Fame better generally speaking than I
Speaker 4: do the baseball. Yeah, because baseball you can just like
Speaker 4: Barry Boscas doesn't mean to you once as a writer
Speaker 4: and you're like, I'm never writing around Yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: literally so, but I agree.
Speaker 2: I think that should be like that.
Speaker 6: There's still a lot of rioters for the NFL, but
Speaker 6: it's not all.
Speaker 3: No, it's not all. I do wish there was, and
Speaker 3: I know there's a couple like Hall of Fame. I
Speaker 3: wish they kind of would would segment it like you know,
Speaker 3: have like a you have a writer's vote, but you
Speaker 3: have you should have a coaches and GM vote, right,
Speaker 3: and then I think the people in the Hall should
Speaker 3: have a say. It doesn't have it doesn't have to
Speaker 3: weigh the same thing. But most of the time players
Speaker 3: know who players are. Coaches and those guys know, like
Speaker 3: you said, riders can get pissy over you know, they
Speaker 3: take a to situation.
Speaker 6: I don't care how big of a prick t O
Speaker 6: is or was whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't know. The guy.
Speaker 6: Dude was a monster on the fields. All that matters.
Speaker 6: He should have been the whole thame years before he was.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you, buddy, thank you for coming.
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