1 00:00:05,496 --> 00:00:07,696 Speaker 1: Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is 2 00:00:07,736 --> 00:00:10,576 Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts. 3 00:00:12,096 --> 00:00:13,496 Speaker 2: We Got Lots. 4 00:00:13,536 --> 00:00:21,736 Speaker 3: Just we got lost? Just what better here? 5 00:00:21,896 --> 00:00:24,456 Speaker 4: And we hope you say because we got. 6 00:00:24,336 --> 00:00:29,456 Speaker 3: Lost, Yeah, we got lost. Just say. 7 00:00:31,456 --> 00:00:32,696 Speaker 5: Here's Bobby in that. 8 00:00:34,336 --> 00:00:35,936 Speaker 2: Jared Allen coming up in a few minutes. 9 00:00:36,856 --> 00:00:39,016 Speaker 4: Here, you have a song you would listen to before 10 00:00:39,016 --> 00:00:40,815 Speaker 4: you like a specific song you would listen. 11 00:00:40,696 --> 00:00:41,376 Speaker 1: To before games. 12 00:00:42,415 --> 00:00:44,296 Speaker 2: Depending on the mood I was in, I went. 13 00:00:44,175 --> 00:00:48,496 Speaker 5: Through like this BDM like techno phase, kind of really 14 00:00:48,535 --> 00:00:51,976 Speaker 5: get myself fired up. Then I went through a little 15 00:00:51,976 --> 00:00:56,736 Speaker 5: bit of like ACDC Thunderstruck. Then there was a little 16 00:00:56,736 --> 00:00:58,655 Speaker 5: bit of Dave Matthews in there every now and then. 17 00:00:58,696 --> 00:01:00,616 Speaker 5: If I was in that the kind of like comp 18 00:01:00,696 --> 00:01:03,376 Speaker 5: calm yourself down but kind of at the same time. 19 00:01:03,296 --> 00:01:07,496 Speaker 2: Give you good vibes. So I went through I was 20 00:01:07,576 --> 00:01:08,655 Speaker 2: kind of all over the map. 21 00:01:08,976 --> 00:01:11,936 Speaker 4: If I did your Spotify rapped songs you listened to 22 00:01:12,096 --> 00:01:16,216 Speaker 4: going into a game, what song or what one and 23 00:01:16,296 --> 00:01:18,656 Speaker 4: two songs would be there? 24 00:01:18,816 --> 00:01:20,136 Speaker 2: And I can I can give you a second to 25 00:01:20,176 --> 00:01:21,376 Speaker 2: think before I go on stage. 26 00:01:21,376 --> 00:01:25,456 Speaker 4: I have the same exact playlist and I go before 27 00:01:25,536 --> 00:01:28,776 Speaker 4: my music hits to do my act, which I have 28 00:01:28,816 --> 00:01:30,136 Speaker 4: a song I come out to, but I listen to 29 00:01:30,136 --> 00:01:33,416 Speaker 4: Seven Nation Army White Stripes. I love that song, don't don't, 30 00:01:35,056 --> 00:01:37,576 Speaker 4: because that's like I need to have this mix of 31 00:01:38,216 --> 00:01:40,456 Speaker 4: I need to be up and fired up. But if 32 00:01:40,456 --> 00:01:43,296 Speaker 4: I'm too fired up because I've got to communicate, too 33 00:01:43,416 --> 00:01:45,576 Speaker 4: fired up is not good, right, So I need to 34 00:01:45,576 --> 00:01:47,496 Speaker 4: come out with energy, but I need to be focused 35 00:01:47,496 --> 00:01:49,576 Speaker 4: and that song doesn't just know. 36 00:01:49,736 --> 00:01:51,096 Speaker 2: It hits it hits hard. 37 00:01:51,456 --> 00:01:53,256 Speaker 4: That would be my number one on the rap list 38 00:01:53,296 --> 00:01:55,256 Speaker 4: of songs that I would go that I go out to. 39 00:01:55,416 --> 00:01:56,816 Speaker 2: Is that one. Yeah. 40 00:01:57,096 --> 00:01:59,376 Speaker 5: The interesting part a lot of times I would listen 41 00:01:59,416 --> 00:02:04,456 Speaker 5: to music, and when before the pre pregame, right, I'd 42 00:02:04,456 --> 00:02:05,096 Speaker 5: listen to music. 43 00:02:05,576 --> 00:02:06,656 Speaker 2: As I came into. 44 00:02:06,496 --> 00:02:08,376 Speaker 5: The locker room is usually when i'd take out my 45 00:02:09,096 --> 00:02:11,376 Speaker 5: take out my EarPods or whatever it might be, and 46 00:02:11,376 --> 00:02:13,215 Speaker 5: stop listening to music and then go through the game 47 00:02:13,216 --> 00:02:15,736 Speaker 5: plan one more time and get kind of just locked 48 00:02:15,776 --> 00:02:19,216 Speaker 5: in focus, especially because a lot of people don't realize 49 00:02:19,616 --> 00:02:23,576 Speaker 5: you're usually scripted for those first twenty plays, so you 50 00:02:23,736 --> 00:02:26,175 Speaker 5: know what's going to be called in the first twenty 51 00:02:26,176 --> 00:02:29,216 Speaker 5: plays of the game. Now that might differ a little 52 00:02:29,216 --> 00:02:31,696 Speaker 5: bit just based on situational football. You're in third down, 53 00:02:31,776 --> 00:02:33,416 Speaker 5: third and one, third and two, but you have your 54 00:02:33,456 --> 00:02:36,376 Speaker 5: list of third down calls from third and three to six, 55 00:02:36,736 --> 00:02:39,256 Speaker 5: six to nine, ten plus. So I wanted to get 56 00:02:39,296 --> 00:02:41,895 Speaker 5: locked in. So even if you had a communication problem, 57 00:02:42,016 --> 00:02:45,696 Speaker 5: I usually could call the first ten plays because I 58 00:02:45,736 --> 00:02:48,376 Speaker 5: had them rehearse in my mind. And so I wasn't 59 00:02:48,376 --> 00:02:51,016 Speaker 5: one of those guys that would get completely distracted with 60 00:02:51,696 --> 00:02:54,736 Speaker 5: music because I was one of those players that just 61 00:02:54,776 --> 00:02:57,776 Speaker 5: wanted to come and focus in on what the task 62 00:02:57,816 --> 00:02:59,696 Speaker 5: at hand had to be. And especially if there was 63 00:02:59,856 --> 00:03:02,056 Speaker 5: checks early on the game, this is a team that 64 00:03:02,216 --> 00:03:04,576 Speaker 5: is either max pressure, max splitz. Okay, I got to 65 00:03:04,576 --> 00:03:06,576 Speaker 5: be prepared to check with seven man protection what it 66 00:03:06,656 --> 00:03:08,856 Speaker 5: might be, and I'd just rehearse it in my mind 67 00:03:08,976 --> 00:03:11,136 Speaker 5: and go through it before we'd go out. So I 68 00:03:11,216 --> 00:03:14,616 Speaker 5: wasn't always that kind of guy that would listen to 69 00:03:14,736 --> 00:03:16,256 Speaker 5: music before the game. 70 00:03:16,496 --> 00:03:21,576 Speaker 4: The big fight for our high school football was we 71 00:03:21,576 --> 00:03:23,696 Speaker 4: were a diverse team. We were the only team that 72 00:03:23,736 --> 00:03:28,136 Speaker 4: had black guys in our county, and so the black 73 00:03:28,136 --> 00:03:29,775 Speaker 4: guys would always want Tupac and the white guys would 74 00:03:29,776 --> 00:03:30,496 Speaker 4: always want a CDC. 75 00:03:30,576 --> 00:03:31,096 Speaker 2: Hill's bells. 76 00:03:31,496 --> 00:03:33,976 Speaker 4: So before every game we'vel had to flip a coin 77 00:03:34,256 --> 00:03:36,296 Speaker 4: and whatever it was on. And it wasn't contentious at all, 78 00:03:36,496 --> 00:03:38,376 Speaker 4: but whatever it landed on, and some of the black 79 00:03:38,376 --> 00:03:40,136 Speaker 4: guys up wanted ACDC, some of the white guys ended 80 00:03:40,176 --> 00:03:41,816 Speaker 4: up wanting TUPAC, depending on how the game went the 81 00:03:41,856 --> 00:03:44,656 Speaker 4: last week. But we flipped a coin every game and 82 00:03:44,696 --> 00:03:46,496 Speaker 4: whatever it landed on. That's why we went out to 83 00:03:46,536 --> 00:03:49,416 Speaker 4: either TUPAC or ac DC. Hell's bells. I want to 84 00:03:49,416 --> 00:03:51,736 Speaker 4: hear those songs. It reminds me of that time, like 85 00:03:51,856 --> 00:03:55,256 Speaker 4: walking out. For sure, I give you my Since we're 86 00:03:55,296 --> 00:03:59,016 Speaker 4: both elite athletes and very high level football players. This 87 00:03:59,456 --> 00:04:01,056 Speaker 4: we'll land on this before we get to the segment, 88 00:04:01,096 --> 00:04:04,456 Speaker 4: but because we have Jared Allen coming up in a second. First, 89 00:04:04,496 --> 00:04:06,616 Speaker 4: I'd like to say to everybody, I do not think 90 00:04:06,656 --> 00:04:10,056 Speaker 4: that I am any sort of talent at the game 91 00:04:10,096 --> 00:04:12,736 Speaker 4: of football stop like Matt Castle is. So when I 92 00:04:12,776 --> 00:04:15,336 Speaker 4: tell this story, it's not me acting as a football peer. 93 00:04:15,416 --> 00:04:17,856 Speaker 2: I just need people to know that are a football 94 00:04:17,896 --> 00:04:21,256 Speaker 2: not a football pier. But so I was captain of 95 00:04:21,296 --> 00:04:22,336 Speaker 2: our high school football team. 96 00:04:22,416 --> 00:04:27,456 Speaker 4: Yes you were knucks Knucks and again high energy guy motor. 97 00:04:27,536 --> 00:04:31,096 Speaker 1: You know a lot of after technicians, good hands, good hands. 98 00:04:32,056 --> 00:04:33,575 Speaker 4: As captain, we go out for the coin toss and 99 00:04:33,575 --> 00:04:36,575 Speaker 4: we're playing this team called Sparkman, who I think they 100 00:04:36,575 --> 00:04:38,335 Speaker 4: were like nine to no. I believe we were eight 101 00:04:38,376 --> 00:04:41,295 Speaker 4: and one at the time game. And so we're up. Yeah, 102 00:04:41,335 --> 00:04:43,216 Speaker 4: like we're going and I'm fired. I was a little 103 00:04:43,215 --> 00:04:44,695 Speaker 4: too fired up. And we go and they flipped a 104 00:04:44,695 --> 00:04:49,255 Speaker 4: coin and they win the coin toss, and so they 105 00:04:49,496 --> 00:04:52,056 Speaker 4: say we'll defer, and so they look at me and 106 00:04:52,056 --> 00:04:55,815 Speaker 4: they go, okay, they deferred. Uh what I said, Uh, 107 00:04:56,015 --> 00:05:00,536 Speaker 4: we will kick off, and they're like the ref looks 108 00:05:00,575 --> 00:05:05,695 Speaker 4: at me and goes, no, no, no, they deferred to 109 00:05:05,815 --> 00:05:07,775 Speaker 4: the second half. They get to make their decision the 110 00:05:07,815 --> 00:05:10,056 Speaker 4: second when we come out for the second half. So 111 00:05:10,176 --> 00:05:12,496 Speaker 4: what do you want to do now? All I remember 112 00:05:12,616 --> 00:05:15,176 Speaker 4: is coach Gandalff going, if we get the chance, we 113 00:05:15,215 --> 00:05:17,296 Speaker 4: want to kick and we're gonna we're gonna stop them. 114 00:05:17,575 --> 00:05:21,176 Speaker 4: And I'm like, we want to kick, and the ref 115 00:05:21,176 --> 00:05:24,496 Speaker 4: looks at me and he goes okay, And that was 116 00:05:24,655 --> 00:05:28,616 Speaker 4: so all right. They've like they deferred the second half 117 00:05:28,936 --> 00:05:32,255 Speaker 4: and Mount Pine has decided to kick, and I still 118 00:05:32,296 --> 00:05:34,376 Speaker 4: I'm just so fired up to go play defense. That 119 00:05:34,815 --> 00:05:37,015 Speaker 4: and I didn't eve play defense, by the way, I played 120 00:05:37,176 --> 00:05:38,815 Speaker 4: only like dying package. 121 00:05:39,936 --> 00:05:42,135 Speaker 2: And so what is your coach doing? Oh no, no, 122 00:05:42,376 --> 00:05:44,775 Speaker 2: here's why he did. I walked off. He grabbed me 123 00:05:44,775 --> 00:05:45,575 Speaker 2: by the face mask. 124 00:05:45,815 --> 00:05:49,415 Speaker 4: Now, luckily, pretty smart guy as far as like standardized 125 00:05:49,416 --> 00:05:51,655 Speaker 4: tests life, I've been a pretty smart person. 126 00:05:51,976 --> 00:05:53,975 Speaker 2: He and I remember everybody could hear it. 127 00:05:53,976 --> 00:05:56,376 Speaker 4: He grabbed me by the face mask and said, you're 128 00:05:56,376 --> 00:05:58,775 Speaker 4: the smartest mother effort on this team. And that's the 129 00:05:58,815 --> 00:06:01,215 Speaker 4: dumbest effing thing I've ever seen in my history of coaching. 130 00:06:02,096 --> 00:06:05,176 Speaker 4: We lost that game by six points. Oh no, you 131 00:06:05,496 --> 00:06:06,536 Speaker 4: been stung worse. 132 00:06:06,736 --> 00:06:08,855 Speaker 2: Yeah, we lost it by one possession. 133 00:06:08,895 --> 00:06:11,176 Speaker 5: You know, believe it or not, I'm not lying to you. 134 00:06:11,815 --> 00:06:14,416 Speaker 5: That happened to us. One of the captains on our 135 00:06:14,455 --> 00:06:17,135 Speaker 5: team did the same exact thing. When I was with 136 00:06:17,176 --> 00:06:18,455 Speaker 5: the Kansas City Chiefs. 137 00:06:18,135 --> 00:06:20,535 Speaker 2: In the NFL. It happened. We kicked off twice in 138 00:06:20,575 --> 00:06:22,496 Speaker 2: the first half. There's no way in the second half, 139 00:06:22,575 --> 00:06:23,856 Speaker 2: No way. True, that's my hero. 140 00:06:24,215 --> 00:06:25,575 Speaker 4: We need to find out who that is because I 141 00:06:25,575 --> 00:06:27,496 Speaker 4: need to talk to whomever it is to take. 142 00:06:27,416 --> 00:06:30,815 Speaker 2: Hold is probably me the smartest guy that was. 143 00:06:31,376 --> 00:06:33,736 Speaker 5: No, I don't even remember who it was did we 144 00:06:33,936 --> 00:06:34,495 Speaker 5: kicked off? 145 00:06:35,215 --> 00:06:39,336 Speaker 2: Are both half? I'm positive that is the best news 146 00:06:39,376 --> 00:06:41,936 Speaker 2: I've had all day. So you're not as dumb as you. 147 00:06:41,976 --> 00:06:45,415 Speaker 4: Oh I am, but acted that somebody did that professionally. Wow, 148 00:06:45,496 --> 00:06:46,496 Speaker 4: what a day this is. 149 00:06:46,616 --> 00:06:47,975 Speaker 2: It happened. We are fired. 150 00:06:47,976 --> 00:06:50,416 Speaker 4: It happened again. Jared only coming by and just a 151 00:06:50,416 --> 00:06:52,216 Speaker 4: little bit. Thank you guys for being here. Thanks for 152 00:06:52,655 --> 00:06:55,135 Speaker 4: subscribing to the show. Please please go over to if 153 00:06:55,135 --> 00:06:58,776 Speaker 4: you're getting this on the NFL feed a Buybone show feed, 154 00:06:59,215 --> 00:07:00,656 Speaker 4: go over to our own feed. 155 00:07:00,736 --> 00:07:03,096 Speaker 1: It's called Lots to Say and hit subscribe. 156 00:07:03,096 --> 00:07:05,655 Speaker 2: Please, we would love that. We need it. We need money. 157 00:07:05,736 --> 00:07:07,455 Speaker 2: Let's just be we need it. We need the money. 158 00:07:07,976 --> 00:07:24,936 Speaker 2: Thank you. You're gonna be honest. I wish I knew 159 00:07:25,016 --> 00:07:27,576 Speaker 2: Jared Allen. I don't. This is your buddy. How do 160 00:07:27,616 --> 00:07:28,975 Speaker 2: you know Jared? Well? 161 00:07:29,016 --> 00:07:30,576 Speaker 5: I played against him for a number of years and 162 00:07:30,616 --> 00:07:33,095 Speaker 5: then when I went to Minnesota he was there, so 163 00:07:33,136 --> 00:07:35,256 Speaker 5: we became teammates and he was right next to me 164 00:07:35,296 --> 00:07:35,976 Speaker 5: in the locker room. 165 00:07:36,256 --> 00:07:36,816 Speaker 2: Great time. 166 00:07:36,856 --> 00:07:39,056 Speaker 5: But when I called him up, I was like, hey, 167 00:07:39,416 --> 00:07:40,496 Speaker 5: would you come on be here. 168 00:07:40,496 --> 00:07:42,056 Speaker 2: I know that he loves to talk. 169 00:07:42,496 --> 00:07:44,856 Speaker 5: He'd be a great guest and he's got great stories 170 00:07:44,936 --> 00:07:48,296 Speaker 5: and he's a future Hall of Famer. So he was like, absolutely, 171 00:07:48,376 --> 00:07:50,376 Speaker 5: and that's that's the cool part is when you have 172 00:07:50,416 --> 00:07:53,215 Speaker 5: relationships with guys like that and they're just completely open 173 00:07:53,376 --> 00:07:54,616 Speaker 5: and real and authentic. 174 00:07:55,056 --> 00:07:57,416 Speaker 2: And so he came on without a doubt. It was awesome. 175 00:07:57,456 --> 00:07:58,696 Speaker 2: Here he is Jared Allen. 176 00:08:01,776 --> 00:08:03,616 Speaker 1: I would like to say that I have been advocating 177 00:08:03,816 --> 00:08:05,176 Speaker 1: and many many. 178 00:08:04,976 --> 00:08:07,536 Speaker 4: Many super small circles that it's effecting on the Hall 179 00:08:07,536 --> 00:08:08,576 Speaker 4: of Fame drives me insane. 180 00:08:09,096 --> 00:08:10,535 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. That's a heck of a way to 181 00:08:10,536 --> 00:08:12,735 Speaker 3: start this segment too, because a lot I could go 182 00:08:12,776 --> 00:08:13,376 Speaker 3: off about that. 183 00:08:13,896 --> 00:08:15,816 Speaker 1: I do believe it. 184 00:08:15,456 --> 00:08:17,096 Speaker 2: Give it to us. I don't know. 185 00:08:17,256 --> 00:08:19,696 Speaker 1: I don't know you, but I believe I say it. 186 00:08:19,696 --> 00:08:21,376 Speaker 2: It's even about me having a relationship with you. 187 00:08:21,536 --> 00:08:23,456 Speaker 1: It's it's a travesty that you weren't on the Hall 188 00:08:23,496 --> 00:08:23,696 Speaker 1: of Fame. 189 00:08:23,736 --> 00:08:26,376 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Yeah, I'll be honest, I really I don't. 190 00:08:26,536 --> 00:08:28,016 Speaker 3: I tell you all the time, and I think people 191 00:08:28,056 --> 00:08:29,535 Speaker 3: that know me, no, I don't. I don't think about 192 00:08:29,576 --> 00:08:31,616 Speaker 3: it except when they bring it up, you know, three 193 00:08:31,655 --> 00:08:33,976 Speaker 3: weeks out of the year, and they they have this 194 00:08:34,136 --> 00:08:37,496 Speaker 3: unique way of making grown men get all like emotional 195 00:08:37,535 --> 00:08:39,616 Speaker 3: about something that you have zero control over. I think 196 00:08:39,655 --> 00:08:41,576 Speaker 3: that's what pisses me off the most about it. It's 197 00:08:41,616 --> 00:08:44,016 Speaker 3: like you get me excited for something and I have 198 00:08:44,096 --> 00:08:47,975 Speaker 3: no control over it. So, yeah, I had no expectations 199 00:08:47,976 --> 00:08:49,776 Speaker 3: of getting in the first year, as as I've been 200 00:08:49,776 --> 00:08:51,456 Speaker 3: a first ballot as the first ballot finalist's been on 201 00:08:51,456 --> 00:08:52,575 Speaker 3: the now for five years. 202 00:08:52,655 --> 00:08:56,055 Speaker 6: Unfortunately, collecting final ballads for the Hall of Fame is 203 00:08:56,096 --> 00:08:56,616 Speaker 6: not a good thing. 204 00:08:57,736 --> 00:09:02,415 Speaker 2: Time sucks. Everybody gets the same. 205 00:09:03,055 --> 00:09:05,215 Speaker 6: So you know what I this last year. 206 00:09:05,736 --> 00:09:09,536 Speaker 3: I'll be real honest, just from the standpoint is statistically, 207 00:09:09,616 --> 00:09:11,856 Speaker 3: there's nobody on the list that's not that's better than me, 208 00:09:12,216 --> 00:09:13,215 Speaker 3: right right me? 209 00:09:13,295 --> 00:09:14,616 Speaker 6: SUGS is up this year. But if you. 210 00:09:14,576 --> 00:09:18,496 Speaker 3: Compare my average per year, you know, you know, you 211 00:09:18,535 --> 00:09:21,696 Speaker 3: can hear the years I played to everybody on that list, 212 00:09:22,295 --> 00:09:23,856 Speaker 3: nobody is better than me. 213 00:09:23,896 --> 00:09:25,576 Speaker 6: And that's to me, And that's what I actually told. 214 00:09:25,616 --> 00:09:26,536 Speaker 6: That's all the fatim I said. 215 00:09:26,535 --> 00:09:28,175 Speaker 3: You can't sit here and tell me this is based 216 00:09:28,216 --> 00:09:32,136 Speaker 3: on my merit, because statistically then I'm in. But so 217 00:09:32,175 --> 00:09:34,376 Speaker 3: it's basically it's a popularity contest and either someone in 218 00:09:34,415 --> 00:09:36,016 Speaker 3: the room doesn't like me or my presenters, and I 219 00:09:36,016 --> 00:09:38,256 Speaker 3: get So the part I get frustrated with is there's 220 00:09:38,256 --> 00:09:41,655 Speaker 3: no there's no they don't give you any guidelines, right, 221 00:09:41,655 --> 00:09:44,736 Speaker 3: there's no basis for who, why, what where? When there's 222 00:09:44,736 --> 00:09:46,655 Speaker 3: no real what's the word I'm looking for? 223 00:09:46,816 --> 00:09:48,616 Speaker 2: So they're voting on the pope, they don't only tell 224 00:09:48,616 --> 00:09:50,776 Speaker 2: you what the vote is. Yeah, yeah, you know what 225 00:09:50,816 --> 00:09:51,816 Speaker 2: they're looking for. Yeah. 226 00:09:51,856 --> 00:09:54,136 Speaker 5: And when you said, presenter, how does that work? So 227 00:09:54,175 --> 00:09:57,136 Speaker 5: you have somebody that represents you to the committee, correct, 228 00:09:57,175 --> 00:09:59,936 Speaker 5: so you go in and advocate on your behalf? 229 00:10:00,136 --> 00:10:02,415 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I I I it's one of my voters 230 00:10:02,415 --> 00:10:04,496 Speaker 3: in Minnesota. Right, soone right, I'm going in as a Viking. 231 00:10:04,535 --> 00:10:07,016 Speaker 3: Well I had vote my very first year, no joke, 232 00:10:07,055 --> 00:10:08,896 Speaker 3: and I don't I don't know the guy, but I 233 00:10:08,935 --> 00:10:12,576 Speaker 3: got rested sould my my I had uh uh Minnesota 234 00:10:12,616 --> 00:10:16,016 Speaker 3: and chiefs was going in uh presenters and my presenter 235 00:10:16,055 --> 00:10:18,616 Speaker 3: in Kansas City died. He was a young man, Like 236 00:10:18,655 --> 00:10:20,216 Speaker 3: I was like, are you are you kidding me? I 237 00:10:20,256 --> 00:10:23,056 Speaker 3: mean that's how that's how it happened. And so I 238 00:10:23,055 --> 00:10:26,136 Speaker 3: haven't talked to the new guy in Kansas City. I 239 00:10:26,216 --> 00:10:28,256 Speaker 3: didn't talk last year. I didn't talk to anybody late last year. 240 00:10:28,295 --> 00:10:31,016 Speaker 3: But so that's what happens is you're you're you're your 241 00:10:31,096 --> 00:10:34,575 Speaker 3: voter for that, you're that team. Basically, you know, they 242 00:10:34,655 --> 00:10:36,815 Speaker 3: come in and some some of the good ones will 243 00:10:36,816 --> 00:10:38,815 Speaker 3: collect all this data on your but so the team 244 00:10:38,856 --> 00:10:41,696 Speaker 3: will put together these kind of sheets, these profile sheets 245 00:10:41,776 --> 00:10:43,975 Speaker 3: of why you know, where you rank all time and 246 00:10:44,216 --> 00:10:46,976 Speaker 3: all these different categories, uh, and try to give it 247 00:10:46,976 --> 00:10:48,776 Speaker 3: to your presenter and then it's their job to argue, 248 00:10:49,096 --> 00:10:51,336 Speaker 3: basically argue you in stand on the on the soapbox 249 00:10:51,376 --> 00:10:54,136 Speaker 3: for you and and see where you're in. And you 250 00:10:54,136 --> 00:10:55,656 Speaker 3: know people had different poll in the room. I mean 251 00:10:55,696 --> 00:10:57,616 Speaker 3: you got the Dungeons, you got you got Dungee in there. 252 00:10:57,616 --> 00:10:59,856 Speaker 6: Who's got a lot of pool? You got Bill Polly 253 00:10:59,856 --> 00:11:01,256 Speaker 6: in because you got a ton of poll. 254 00:11:02,336 --> 00:11:04,575 Speaker 3: I have to say I actually ran into uh, Steve 255 00:11:04,616 --> 00:11:06,056 Speaker 3: Hudcheson at the Titans the d of the day and 256 00:11:06,096 --> 00:11:08,496 Speaker 3: I'll never forget he got it. We were in the 257 00:11:08,496 --> 00:11:11,736 Speaker 3: Super Bowl Minnesota, right and he was up for the hot. 258 00:11:11,776 --> 00:11:13,936 Speaker 3: That might have been his first, first, first, or second bout. 259 00:11:13,976 --> 00:11:15,415 Speaker 3: But back then they used to bring you out to 260 00:11:15,496 --> 00:11:17,376 Speaker 3: the hall or to the to the Super Bowl. All 261 00:11:17,415 --> 00:11:20,336 Speaker 3: fifteen finalists and then you get dressed in your tuxedo, 262 00:11:20,415 --> 00:11:22,935 Speaker 3: wife's all dressed up, and you either get a phone 263 00:11:22,935 --> 00:11:26,096 Speaker 3: call saying sorry, I get on the plane, or you know, 264 00:11:26,175 --> 00:11:27,576 Speaker 3: you come down and you get you go to the 265 00:11:27,616 --> 00:11:29,175 Speaker 3: Wars ceremony, you get a Hall of Fame. So I 266 00:11:29,216 --> 00:11:31,295 Speaker 3: see Steve and the dude's just dejected. Right, Steve is 267 00:11:31,295 --> 00:11:34,256 Speaker 3: already drunk anyways, but he he was just like and 268 00:11:34,336 --> 00:11:37,136 Speaker 3: I was, and I see him, and I'm like, you know, I, 269 00:11:37,216 --> 00:11:39,016 Speaker 3: you know, playing with them all those times close for 270 00:11:39,055 --> 00:11:39,416 Speaker 3: as everyone. 271 00:11:39,535 --> 00:11:41,295 Speaker 6: I was like, I'm not even going down, but I could. 272 00:11:41,295 --> 00:11:42,295 Speaker 2: I've never understood it. 273 00:11:42,816 --> 00:11:44,776 Speaker 3: And then I finally understood he got anything on his 274 00:11:44,816 --> 00:11:46,535 Speaker 3: third or fourth, I think third time. But then you 275 00:11:46,655 --> 00:11:48,176 Speaker 3: were talking to Day He's like, Brian, I was like, 276 00:11:48,256 --> 00:11:48,976 Speaker 3: I get it now. 277 00:11:49,016 --> 00:11:49,896 Speaker 6: I give that that emo. 278 00:11:49,976 --> 00:11:50,456 Speaker 2: Beau's like, you. 279 00:11:50,456 --> 00:11:53,016 Speaker 3: Don't really care, but then you care in that brief moment. 280 00:11:53,096 --> 00:11:54,776 Speaker 3: Then you're so pissed off that you allowed somebody to 281 00:11:54,816 --> 00:11:56,415 Speaker 3: let you care about something that really doesn't. 282 00:11:56,175 --> 00:11:56,815 Speaker 6: Affect your life. 283 00:11:56,896 --> 00:11:58,656 Speaker 3: You know, from a standpoint of my wife's not gonna 284 00:11:58,655 --> 00:12:00,536 Speaker 3: love him anymore, my kids aren't gonna think I'm cooler 285 00:12:00,696 --> 00:12:01,856 Speaker 3: the dogs, and I gonna start. 286 00:12:02,016 --> 00:12:05,856 Speaker 2: I definitely, I'm not gonna lie have been better. 287 00:12:12,616 --> 00:12:15,655 Speaker 6: So, yeah, it's it's a weird it's a weird process. 288 00:12:15,696 --> 00:12:16,496 Speaker 6: It's a weird deal. 289 00:12:16,576 --> 00:12:18,896 Speaker 3: But I appreciate you saying that I deserve to be 290 00:12:18,935 --> 00:12:21,056 Speaker 3: in and we'll see, we'll see what happens. 291 00:12:21,096 --> 00:12:22,935 Speaker 4: There is somebody and I know who it is, and 292 00:12:22,976 --> 00:12:24,136 Speaker 4: I will not say who it is, but they have 293 00:12:24,216 --> 00:12:27,216 Speaker 4: kept it's a single person, an entity that has kept 294 00:12:27,216 --> 00:12:29,176 Speaker 4: me from hosting the c M A Awards, which is 295 00:12:29,175 --> 00:12:32,455 Speaker 4: the big yeah and so so and I and I 296 00:12:32,496 --> 00:12:34,856 Speaker 4: am like I do the A c MS and like 297 00:12:34,976 --> 00:12:36,256 Speaker 4: reab it did it and I did it like a 298 00:12:36,295 --> 00:12:38,535 Speaker 4: second string up. I'm part of that television broadcast. But 299 00:12:38,535 --> 00:12:40,016 Speaker 4: it's not the same as hosting the awards. I know 300 00:12:40,055 --> 00:12:41,535 Speaker 4: the person's kept me posting CMAS. 301 00:12:41,655 --> 00:12:42,815 Speaker 2: Do you know that? Don't say who it is, But 302 00:12:42,816 --> 00:12:43,696 Speaker 2: do you know who's keeping you on? 303 00:12:45,456 --> 00:12:45,696 Speaker 6: No? 304 00:12:45,776 --> 00:12:49,415 Speaker 3: I don't, well yes and no. And part of it 305 00:12:49,456 --> 00:12:53,856 Speaker 3: is is you know less he hears it. Part of 306 00:12:53,856 --> 00:12:56,616 Speaker 3: it is my presenter, right, my presenters, is what it 307 00:12:56,655 --> 00:12:58,736 Speaker 3: sounds like pretty much. Yeah, Well that's the other thing 308 00:12:58,776 --> 00:13:00,256 Speaker 3: about the process. I don't get like we should be 309 00:13:00,256 --> 00:13:02,055 Speaker 3: able to choose our presenters, right, right, I have a 310 00:13:02,096 --> 00:13:04,536 Speaker 3: team representer. Maybe you don't even get to choose somebody 311 00:13:04,535 --> 00:13:06,056 Speaker 3: that knows me well, you get to choose which team 312 00:13:06,096 --> 00:13:09,136 Speaker 3: you want, right, got so like last year, I know 313 00:13:09,216 --> 00:13:11,856 Speaker 3: there was a big push and I love I love Peppers, 314 00:13:11,856 --> 00:13:13,535 Speaker 3: I love Freenie. Pepper's one of my favorite players. The 315 00:13:13,535 --> 00:13:15,695 Speaker 3: white Frenizing is the reason why I became the highest 316 00:13:15,736 --> 00:13:18,055 Speaker 3: paid defensive player in the league in the history of 317 00:13:18,055 --> 00:13:19,976 Speaker 3: the NFL at the time, because he broke the bank 318 00:13:20,136 --> 00:13:22,256 Speaker 3: like Dwight started getting paid. Right, is the one that 319 00:13:22,295 --> 00:13:24,535 Speaker 3: got defensive players to get paid like quarterbacks. 320 00:13:24,616 --> 00:13:24,776 Speaker 2: Right. 321 00:13:25,295 --> 00:13:28,096 Speaker 3: So, I mean, I nothing I would ever say anybody's 322 00:13:28,136 --> 00:13:30,016 Speaker 3: up for the Hall of Fame is well deserving my book, Right, 323 00:13:30,175 --> 00:13:32,256 Speaker 3: I'm kind of one of these things like, man, either 324 00:13:32,415 --> 00:13:33,736 Speaker 3: if you're gonna be on the file listid I put 325 00:13:33,776 --> 00:13:33,935 Speaker 3: them in? 326 00:13:33,976 --> 00:13:35,295 Speaker 6: Put them in, or don'tut them in. Don't put me 327 00:13:35,336 --> 00:13:36,776 Speaker 6: on the list just to keep me on the list forever. 328 00:13:37,295 --> 00:13:40,656 Speaker 3: But again, so you go through and and I know 329 00:13:40,736 --> 00:13:43,256 Speaker 3: there was a big push, you know, for Dwight to 330 00:13:43,256 --> 00:13:46,055 Speaker 3: get in last year where they were having you know, 331 00:13:46,336 --> 00:13:50,735 Speaker 3: other Hall of Famers were having video conferences with voters, 332 00:13:51,216 --> 00:13:53,055 Speaker 3: and I'm not I'm not I'm not about that. I'm 333 00:13:53,055 --> 00:13:54,616 Speaker 3: not going to kiss the ring. I'm not bound down 334 00:13:54,696 --> 00:13:55,976 Speaker 3: like I'm not. You know, it's like, if you want 335 00:13:55,976 --> 00:13:57,816 Speaker 3: me in on my merit put me in. If not, 336 00:13:58,496 --> 00:14:00,376 Speaker 3: no harm, no fail. I really it is what it is. 337 00:14:00,776 --> 00:14:02,695 Speaker 3: So I know there's there's that aspect, So I don't 338 00:14:02,696 --> 00:14:05,096 Speaker 3: I don't know if there's one particular, one person keeping 339 00:14:05,136 --> 00:14:05,336 Speaker 3: me up. 340 00:14:06,055 --> 00:14:08,296 Speaker 6: I just think it's uh, the nature of the beast. 341 00:14:08,376 --> 00:14:09,976 Speaker 3: And and you know, when you play the game the 342 00:14:09,976 --> 00:14:12,456 Speaker 3: way I played it, you know you kind of get which, 343 00:14:12,576 --> 00:14:14,656 Speaker 3: which is crazy because the characteristics that I want to 344 00:14:14,655 --> 00:14:19,256 Speaker 3: teach my kids that I think are positive hustle, try hard, right, 345 00:14:20,376 --> 00:14:23,856 Speaker 3: you know, basically just you know, being out there making 346 00:14:23,896 --> 00:14:26,296 Speaker 3: sure the fans know that I appreciate them showing up, 347 00:14:26,296 --> 00:14:28,096 Speaker 3: but I love what I do. It actually ends up 348 00:14:28,136 --> 00:14:30,816 Speaker 3: being a negative because they come back and say, like, oh, 349 00:14:30,296 --> 00:14:32,616 Speaker 3: he got on the sacks, says he hustled more than 350 00:14:32,616 --> 00:14:37,336 Speaker 3: other people, Like what that diminishes my talent? Oh he 351 00:14:37,416 --> 00:14:40,576 Speaker 3: tried harder than everybody else. A lot of I'm all right, 352 00:14:40,576 --> 00:14:41,936 Speaker 3: I guess I'm just the try hard hustle. 353 00:14:42,856 --> 00:14:43,016 Speaker 2: You know. 354 00:14:43,096 --> 00:14:45,496 Speaker 5: That's the label, guy, It's a label. But the thing 355 00:14:45,496 --> 00:14:50,616 Speaker 5: that I always appreciate about is when you play the game. Though, 356 00:14:50,936 --> 00:14:53,976 Speaker 5: the most exciting part for me was always to watch 357 00:14:54,096 --> 00:14:57,335 Speaker 5: your youthful enthusiasm, Like you had fun when you played 358 00:14:57,336 --> 00:15:00,816 Speaker 5: the game, and that that permeated throughout the entire team, right, 359 00:15:00,856 --> 00:15:02,616 Speaker 5: and when you did your sack and you did the 360 00:15:03,296 --> 00:15:05,656 Speaker 5: bull or whatever the heck you do, right, I mean 361 00:15:05,896 --> 00:15:08,416 Speaker 5: that that's the type of stuff that you know, not 362 00:15:08,536 --> 00:15:11,216 Speaker 5: everybody has that there. They have this workman like mentality 363 00:15:11,256 --> 00:15:13,136 Speaker 5: and they're told to act a certain way or do 364 00:15:13,216 --> 00:15:17,016 Speaker 5: it a certain and a certain method of Look, this 365 00:15:17,096 --> 00:15:19,336 Speaker 5: is how you're supposed to act. But just how you 366 00:15:19,376 --> 00:15:21,776 Speaker 5: went out each and every day and we had fun, 367 00:15:21,936 --> 00:15:23,936 Speaker 5: Like that's what made you a great teammate, but that's 368 00:15:23,976 --> 00:15:27,816 Speaker 5: also what made you such a lovable player in the NFL. 369 00:15:27,936 --> 00:15:28,136 Speaker 2: Man. 370 00:15:28,656 --> 00:15:31,976 Speaker 3: Yeah, I last year short not to have fun, you know. 371 00:15:32,176 --> 00:15:33,936 Speaker 3: I got to remind myself of that retirement. 372 00:15:34,016 --> 00:15:38,736 Speaker 2: Sometimes you do your homework. 373 00:15:38,976 --> 00:15:43,816 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, real life issues. No that, But I 374 00:15:43,816 --> 00:15:45,616 Speaker 3: mean I literally was fortunate. I told my dad when 375 00:15:45,656 --> 00:15:47,496 Speaker 3: I was eight years old, I was gona play professional football. 376 00:15:47,736 --> 00:15:49,816 Speaker 3: Most parents are like, all right, Johnny, like go read 377 00:15:49,856 --> 00:15:51,656 Speaker 3: the books. My dad would drop me off. My dad 378 00:15:51,736 --> 00:15:53,455 Speaker 3: trained rain and cutting horses. So I managed ranches and 379 00:15:53,576 --> 00:15:55,336 Speaker 3: my dad, the rancher lived at the time, was about 380 00:15:55,336 --> 00:15:57,776 Speaker 3: a mile or so from the gate up to our 381 00:15:58,536 --> 00:16:00,696 Speaker 3: double wide trigler because we were high class back then, 382 00:16:01,416 --> 00:16:06,256 Speaker 3: and so I was what was I ten some of 383 00:16:06,296 --> 00:16:07,136 Speaker 3: your and I would run. 384 00:16:07,456 --> 00:16:09,496 Speaker 2: He would make me run every night up to the hill. 385 00:16:09,576 --> 00:16:10,576 Speaker 2: And his whole philosophy is. 386 00:16:10,536 --> 00:16:12,616 Speaker 3: Like, you want to be in the pros, you better eat, sleep, 387 00:16:12,656 --> 00:16:15,776 Speaker 3: drinket because somebody out there is doing more than you are, 388 00:16:16,016 --> 00:16:18,256 Speaker 3: so you better better make sure you're doing the most 389 00:16:18,296 --> 00:16:21,056 Speaker 3: you could ever do. So most parents are like, yeah, okay, 390 00:16:21,296 --> 00:16:22,736 Speaker 3: have fun, you know, go to go to school. My 391 00:16:22,776 --> 00:16:24,056 Speaker 3: dad was like, you want to be in the boroughs, 392 00:16:24,216 --> 00:16:26,416 Speaker 3: let's get it, and he uh it was. It was 393 00:16:26,456 --> 00:16:29,296 Speaker 3: a hard nosed on it, and but that was that 394 00:16:29,376 --> 00:16:30,656 Speaker 3: was all I ever wanted to do. And so when 395 00:16:30,656 --> 00:16:33,095 Speaker 3: I when I got to play professional football as a 396 00:16:33,136 --> 00:16:36,936 Speaker 3: living and make a living doing it, man, that's there's 397 00:16:36,976 --> 00:16:39,016 Speaker 3: no great. Even on days that sucked, even training camp 398 00:16:39,056 --> 00:16:40,576 Speaker 3: days when you want to be just bitch and complaining 399 00:16:40,576 --> 00:16:42,736 Speaker 3: because it's training camp. You look back and you're like, 400 00:16:43,256 --> 00:16:44,776 Speaker 3: you know, I'm getting paid money to play a game. 401 00:16:44,816 --> 00:16:45,376 Speaker 6: This is dope. 402 00:16:45,536 --> 00:16:47,856 Speaker 4: How many celebrations did you have that didn't work out? 403 00:16:47,896 --> 00:16:49,496 Speaker 4: Because we all know you for the tie, but did 404 00:16:49,536 --> 00:16:50,376 Speaker 4: you ever do like. 405 00:16:50,456 --> 00:16:51,656 Speaker 2: The giddy did you ever have? 406 00:16:51,736 --> 00:16:51,816 Speaker 4: Like? 407 00:16:55,256 --> 00:16:58,136 Speaker 3: Well, that was the thing, my very first one, first one, 408 00:16:58,176 --> 00:17:01,376 Speaker 3: I got fined five thousand dollars. So my my tied end, 409 00:17:01,416 --> 00:17:03,856 Speaker 3: my buddy, my roommate in college are tied in. Never 410 00:17:03,856 --> 00:17:06,295 Speaker 3: scored a touchdown, right, So I told him, I was like, 411 00:17:06,416 --> 00:17:08,816 Speaker 3: and he had, he had this brilliant sat your a 412 00:17:08,816 --> 00:17:10,896 Speaker 3: touchdown and celebration that he's gonna have, right, So we 413 00:17:10,896 --> 00:17:12,536 Speaker 3: were gonna we were gonna high fight, you know, low 414 00:17:12,616 --> 00:17:16,255 Speaker 3: five and then bring it back around, slap the thigh 415 00:17:16,296 --> 00:17:18,656 Speaker 3: like bodybuilders and flex it out right. That was that 416 00:17:18,776 --> 00:17:20,696 Speaker 3: was I was like, you never got a chance to 417 00:17:20,735 --> 00:17:24,056 Speaker 3: doing to college. My very first sack, I'm doing that 418 00:17:24,215 --> 00:17:27,776 Speaker 3: preseason don't count, but who cares preseasons first preseason game, 419 00:17:27,816 --> 00:17:30,776 Speaker 3: I sacked eight manning. Bamn, I hit that leg, shake 420 00:17:30,816 --> 00:17:33,656 Speaker 3: it out, bam, flex it five thousand dollars for se 421 00:17:34,056 --> 00:17:35,136 Speaker 3: suggested behavior. 422 00:17:35,176 --> 00:17:37,776 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that it was the outside of your side. 423 00:17:38,176 --> 00:17:43,255 Speaker 2: Yeah right here are thinking, but he's probably trying to 424 00:17:44,656 --> 00:17:45,576 Speaker 2: they said, they. 425 00:17:45,416 --> 00:17:47,376 Speaker 3: Said, I gotta find well, I didn't get a fine 426 00:17:47,416 --> 00:17:49,255 Speaker 3: because I was a fourth round pick. So there's other 427 00:17:49,256 --> 00:17:50,696 Speaker 3: people with my number on the team. Right, there was 428 00:17:50,696 --> 00:17:53,616 Speaker 3: an undrafted free agent lineman with the number sixty nine. 429 00:17:53,816 --> 00:17:59,176 Speaker 6: They sent him a fine for five thousand dollars. It's like, 430 00:17:59,215 --> 00:18:01,376 Speaker 6: what is oh what he called the league and got 431 00:18:01,376 --> 00:18:02,015 Speaker 6: it sent to me. 432 00:18:02,096 --> 00:18:03,856 Speaker 3: And so in the preseason if you have fined, you 433 00:18:03,896 --> 00:18:06,136 Speaker 3: don't pay it until you get make makes a team. 434 00:18:06,336 --> 00:18:08,696 Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, you know you're not making the team, like. 435 00:18:08,735 --> 00:18:15,535 Speaker 6: You know that. It still cost me five grand for that. 436 00:18:16,416 --> 00:18:19,296 Speaker 6: And then I had the vets my first couple of years. 437 00:18:19,336 --> 00:18:21,255 Speaker 3: They would just pick celebrations for me to do, like, 438 00:18:21,296 --> 00:18:24,336 Speaker 3: all right, this week, you're doing the lawnmower. Dallas had 439 00:18:24,376 --> 00:18:28,096 Speaker 3: like two sacks against Dallas one year and jelly roll, 440 00:18:28,256 --> 00:18:29,936 Speaker 3: the original jelly roll Lionel Dalton. 441 00:18:30,576 --> 00:18:33,736 Speaker 6: Uh, He's like, all right this year this game, you're 442 00:18:33,776 --> 00:18:38,096 Speaker 6: doing spirit fingers and high kicks. I'm like, this sucks, bro. 443 00:18:40,056 --> 00:18:43,455 Speaker 6: So finally finally caught on it, and I gotta give it. 444 00:18:43,495 --> 00:18:46,696 Speaker 3: I was actually telling Dustin Coke with yesterday Neil Smith, 445 00:18:46,735 --> 00:18:49,096 Speaker 3: we went out to dinner. Neil Smith got put into 446 00:18:49,096 --> 00:18:52,735 Speaker 3: the Ring of Honor and Hank Junior sang the national 447 00:18:52,735 --> 00:18:55,215 Speaker 3: anthem my game. Okay, So I meet up with Neil 448 00:18:55,296 --> 00:18:56,856 Speaker 3: and then we ended up going out and we went 449 00:18:56,936 --> 00:19:00,136 Speaker 3: to dinner with with Hank Junior afterwards, which is. 450 00:19:00,096 --> 00:19:05,775 Speaker 2: All a whole nother amazing and uh. And so Neil's like, hey. 451 00:19:05,616 --> 00:19:08,055 Speaker 3: Man, I really appreciate you doing my celebration. He's like, 452 00:19:08,096 --> 00:19:09,936 Speaker 3: but you know, you gotta come up with something. 453 00:19:09,735 --> 00:19:10,136 Speaker 2: Of your own. 454 00:19:10,176 --> 00:19:11,656 Speaker 3: So I grew up on a ranch. I grew up 455 00:19:11,696 --> 00:19:14,775 Speaker 3: calf roping, and so that's how we came about it. 456 00:19:14,856 --> 00:19:16,336 Speaker 3: Talkingbot He's like, yeah, it was time up. So when 457 00:19:16,336 --> 00:19:17,775 Speaker 3: you calf rope, you know, you flink your calf, you 458 00:19:17,776 --> 00:19:19,296 Speaker 3: tied through legs, through your hands up. That's when I 459 00:19:19,336 --> 00:19:19,975 Speaker 3: stopped the clock. 460 00:19:20,376 --> 00:19:21,975 Speaker 6: So we just started doing that on our quarterbacks and 461 00:19:22,016 --> 00:19:22,455 Speaker 6: it stuck. 462 00:19:22,616 --> 00:19:25,055 Speaker 2: And then, yeah, did you ever sack me? 463 00:19:25,495 --> 00:19:26,656 Speaker 6: I did several times? 464 00:19:26,656 --> 00:19:29,096 Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate that. I do actually cost you 465 00:19:29,656 --> 00:19:30,215 Speaker 2: with the Chiefs. 466 00:19:30,215 --> 00:19:33,336 Speaker 5: You remember that you two with the Chiefs. 467 00:19:33,536 --> 00:19:35,575 Speaker 6: But no, Dallas, we were playing you, Dallas. 468 00:19:35,616 --> 00:19:38,376 Speaker 3: When I was in Carolina, we were playing Dallas Thanksgiving 469 00:19:38,816 --> 00:19:41,336 Speaker 3: and I was clean off the edge, smoked my guy, 470 00:19:41,735 --> 00:19:43,815 Speaker 3: and you like, just shuffle up. 471 00:19:43,816 --> 00:19:45,616 Speaker 2: I think you got like one yard of flicked it 472 00:19:45,616 --> 00:19:47,775 Speaker 2: away off the castle. You could have just slid. I 473 00:19:47,776 --> 00:19:49,416 Speaker 2: should have. I would have helped you out. 474 00:19:49,416 --> 00:19:51,096 Speaker 6: I think I think I would have tied Richard Dent 475 00:19:51,136 --> 00:19:52,296 Speaker 6: if you were to just taken the sack. 476 00:19:52,455 --> 00:19:54,215 Speaker 5: I mean, I remember being with the Chiefs and you 477 00:19:54,336 --> 00:19:56,736 Speaker 5: come around this edge and I kind of just see 478 00:19:56,776 --> 00:19:59,015 Speaker 5: you in my peripheral and I spun out and I 479 00:19:59,056 --> 00:19:59,816 Speaker 5: just remember. 480 00:19:59,576 --> 00:20:02,255 Speaker 2: You get back up. I got a take off running. 481 00:20:02,256 --> 00:20:04,256 Speaker 2: I'm like running for my life. I'm like, blow the whistle, 482 00:20:04,495 --> 00:20:07,376 Speaker 2: blow the whistle. Is there an honor amongst people that 483 00:20:07,495 --> 00:20:08,136 Speaker 2: know each other? 484 00:20:08,656 --> 00:20:11,096 Speaker 4: If the shot is there, maybe you don't take you 485 00:20:11,176 --> 00:20:12,776 Speaker 4: almost brother in law a bit. 486 00:20:13,336 --> 00:20:14,215 Speaker 2: They never know. 487 00:20:14,495 --> 00:20:16,776 Speaker 3: If I know you, I'm probably hitting harder. 488 00:20:17,056 --> 00:20:21,856 Speaker 2: So if he's their blindside done, Uh, he's gonna try 489 00:20:21,896 --> 00:20:23,416 Speaker 2: to rip my head off. I know about it. 490 00:20:23,616 --> 00:20:25,456 Speaker 3: I mean I'm not gonna know ill will I I've 491 00:20:25,495 --> 00:20:27,816 Speaker 3: never once in my life tried to intentionally hurt anybody. 492 00:20:28,936 --> 00:20:31,056 Speaker 3: But absolutely, at no point would I. 493 00:20:30,776 --> 00:20:32,416 Speaker 6: Take it easy on anybody on the football field. 494 00:20:32,936 --> 00:20:37,696 Speaker 3: Buddy honey, Well, he's gonna not throw the winning touchdown, 495 00:20:37,735 --> 00:20:39,896 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like that's I think, Uh, 496 00:20:40,056 --> 00:20:42,096 Speaker 3: actually that's what I respect. That's what I respect about 497 00:20:42,096 --> 00:20:44,656 Speaker 3: like m m A and you know, you know, like 498 00:20:44,856 --> 00:20:48,216 Speaker 3: boxing mm A and uh and and and football, like contact, 499 00:20:48,296 --> 00:20:50,936 Speaker 3: you know, athletic sports. It's like when you're on the field, 500 00:20:51,016 --> 00:20:52,656 Speaker 3: you can be friends. We can be friends afterwards when 501 00:20:52,656 --> 00:20:55,416 Speaker 3: we field healthy respect for each other. Absolutely, we'll laugh 502 00:20:55,416 --> 00:20:55,856 Speaker 3: and joke. 503 00:20:55,735 --> 00:20:58,936 Speaker 4: But loud when you're when you're lined up a quarterback, 504 00:20:58,975 --> 00:21:01,296 Speaker 4: you know where he is by by vocally. 505 00:21:01,056 --> 00:21:03,056 Speaker 5: Well one hundred percent plus. You study the film during 506 00:21:03,096 --> 00:21:04,896 Speaker 5: the week and they always go through like early in 507 00:21:04,936 --> 00:21:08,696 Speaker 5: the week, it goes through game wreckers, so you circle 508 00:21:08,735 --> 00:21:11,136 Speaker 5: the game wreckers and he was always one of those dudes. 509 00:21:11,215 --> 00:21:12,896 Speaker 2: We got to block this guy. We gotta give him 510 00:21:12,975 --> 00:21:13,896 Speaker 2: chip help, we gotta do this. 511 00:21:14,215 --> 00:21:17,615 Speaker 5: But on the field, there's a constant banter going on, 512 00:21:17,816 --> 00:21:20,535 Speaker 5: especially with somebody like him who's got confidence. 513 00:21:21,016 --> 00:21:22,936 Speaker 2: He's a little brash. He's gonna let you. 514 00:21:22,975 --> 00:21:25,136 Speaker 5: Know I'm coming for you, you know, and you just you 515 00:21:25,215 --> 00:21:27,696 Speaker 5: gotta tune it out, especially at my position because I've 516 00:21:27,735 --> 00:21:29,376 Speaker 5: got a lot other crap to think about other than. 517 00:21:29,336 --> 00:21:31,136 Speaker 2: Getting hit from the backside of my head. 518 00:21:31,176 --> 00:21:33,896 Speaker 5: But I mean, so you just gotta I mean, and 519 00:21:33,936 --> 00:21:39,455 Speaker 5: it's it's not just him. It's consistent banter, particularly linebackers 520 00:21:39,495 --> 00:21:40,495 Speaker 5: and defensive lineman. 521 00:21:40,576 --> 00:21:43,616 Speaker 2: It's all day long. Who was the hardest physically guy 522 00:21:43,656 --> 00:21:44,296 Speaker 2: to take down? 523 00:21:45,215 --> 00:21:50,255 Speaker 6: Oh? So Rolisberger is on that list. He's massive. But 524 00:21:50,336 --> 00:21:53,776 Speaker 6: you know who was you remembers guarded. 525 00:21:55,016 --> 00:21:56,616 Speaker 2: From from Jacksonville. 526 00:21:56,656 --> 00:22:00,336 Speaker 6: He was David was a tank. 527 00:22:00,495 --> 00:22:04,215 Speaker 2: He was all for and then like lower body thick too, 528 00:22:04,296 --> 00:22:06,735 Speaker 2: and you could you come in you you know, he 529 00:22:06,896 --> 00:22:07,336 Speaker 2: was tough. 530 00:22:08,136 --> 00:22:14,255 Speaker 3: That really stands out. Roethlisberger was another one. You know 531 00:22:14,455 --> 00:22:16,856 Speaker 3: that was probably the two that come up. Were you 532 00:22:16,936 --> 00:22:18,056 Speaker 3: around could pepper at all? 533 00:22:18,416 --> 00:22:18,735 Speaker 2: I was? 534 00:22:19,136 --> 00:22:22,616 Speaker 5: He's another pepper. He's another massive human. Yep, Like some 535 00:22:22,696 --> 00:22:24,616 Speaker 5: of these guys are just you know that set, lower 536 00:22:24,656 --> 00:22:25,376 Speaker 5: half strength. 537 00:22:25,176 --> 00:22:25,856 Speaker 2: And all that. 538 00:22:26,256 --> 00:22:28,495 Speaker 5: And then when you think about Roethlisberg, he was just 539 00:22:29,296 --> 00:22:32,336 Speaker 5: savvy and elusive and and for a guy his size, 540 00:22:32,455 --> 00:22:34,936 Speaker 5: he wasn't like a quick twitch for example. 541 00:22:35,096 --> 00:22:37,055 Speaker 3: He just knew where to get where to be in 542 00:22:37,096 --> 00:22:39,256 Speaker 3: the pockets to get you Like you know, were most 543 00:22:39,256 --> 00:22:41,096 Speaker 3: guys you could probably come around, grab an arm or 544 00:22:41,136 --> 00:22:42,975 Speaker 3: jersey and get that. But he's he's big and strong 545 00:22:43,056 --> 00:22:44,696 Speaker 3: enough and knows exactly would be where he can shape 546 00:22:44,696 --> 00:22:47,736 Speaker 3: that off and still keep his eyes downfield. Uh, that's 547 00:22:47,776 --> 00:22:49,176 Speaker 3: that was a tough part about him. You weren't You 548 00:22:49,176 --> 00:22:52,255 Speaker 3: weren't afraid of him running. You're afraid of him. You know, 549 00:22:52,336 --> 00:22:54,656 Speaker 3: you get into the quarterback and again him shaking you 550 00:22:54,735 --> 00:22:56,376 Speaker 3: or like as far as like you're missing the sack 551 00:22:56,776 --> 00:22:59,535 Speaker 3: and then you know, standing the play long enough just 552 00:22:59,576 --> 00:23:02,215 Speaker 3: to get downfield, and a lot of a lot of 553 00:23:02,215 --> 00:23:05,816 Speaker 3: the mobile guys when you hit him, they go down. Yeah, 554 00:23:05,816 --> 00:23:07,376 Speaker 3: probably you gotta hit him's So I'm glad I don't 555 00:23:07,376 --> 00:23:09,296 Speaker 3: play anymore than like Lamar Lamar Jackson. 556 00:23:10,576 --> 00:23:13,735 Speaker 5: The game has changed at that position so dramatically. It's wild. 557 00:23:13,975 --> 00:23:15,656 Speaker 2: Who was the most mobile guy you played against? 558 00:23:15,936 --> 00:23:21,336 Speaker 6: Michael Vick? Yeah, that's Michael Vick, absolutely nuts. But do 559 00:23:21,336 --> 00:23:22,455 Speaker 6: you know what scrangepart was? 560 00:23:22,495 --> 00:23:24,735 Speaker 3: We we destroyed him because we just knew how to 561 00:23:24,735 --> 00:23:27,696 Speaker 3: beat him. And I'll never forget. I think it was 562 00:23:27,735 --> 00:23:31,376 Speaker 3: my as my rookie year, and we watched tape and 563 00:23:31,416 --> 00:23:33,296 Speaker 3: we this is no joke, how we practiced to sack him. 564 00:23:33,296 --> 00:23:34,616 Speaker 6: So we knew where he was going to escape. 565 00:23:34,776 --> 00:23:37,015 Speaker 3: So we our whole plan was, we're gonna blitz the 566 00:23:37,016 --> 00:23:39,055 Speaker 3: living crap out of him, and we're gonna make him. 567 00:23:38,975 --> 00:23:41,216 Speaker 6: Escape, right, and when he escapes. We know you want 568 00:23:41,215 --> 00:23:41,816 Speaker 6: to juke. 569 00:23:41,816 --> 00:23:43,535 Speaker 3: You inside, he's gonna try to get the corner, so 570 00:23:43,576 --> 00:23:45,936 Speaker 3: don't fall over the first juke. So our whole, our 571 00:23:45,936 --> 00:23:48,096 Speaker 3: whole practice that week, we would we would come We 572 00:23:48,136 --> 00:23:50,696 Speaker 3: played like basically boot bout legs style. We squeezed that 573 00:23:50,735 --> 00:23:52,296 Speaker 3: a lot of scrimmage, and then we would just run 574 00:23:52,336 --> 00:23:54,936 Speaker 3: to the sidelines and no joke, I gotta sack. I 575 00:23:55,536 --> 00:23:58,376 Speaker 3: tell people, I ran down, ran down Michael Vick because 576 00:23:58,416 --> 00:24:00,295 Speaker 3: he broke out and I just ran this. 577 00:24:00,975 --> 00:24:03,615 Speaker 2: Now, did you shoe string him or you actually? Oh 578 00:24:03,616 --> 00:24:06,416 Speaker 2: my god, Oh my god, that's that's one. 579 00:24:06,616 --> 00:24:08,296 Speaker 6: He did break one. I should have three that game. 580 00:24:08,336 --> 00:24:10,815 Speaker 3: I had two, but yeah, I hawked him down on 581 00:24:10,816 --> 00:24:13,296 Speaker 3: a blot leg because that's coach. 582 00:24:13,455 --> 00:24:14,696 Speaker 6: I just ran to the sideline. 583 00:24:14,856 --> 00:24:18,296 Speaker 4: Anybody who didn't get the thinking back like I never 584 00:24:18,416 --> 00:24:19,975 Speaker 4: got X and that would have been. 585 00:24:20,136 --> 00:24:24,416 Speaker 3: I never got Russell Wilson came very close there, but 586 00:24:24,495 --> 00:24:28,056 Speaker 3: all the other ones. I think that's pretty much everybody. 587 00:24:28,136 --> 00:24:29,975 Speaker 2: It's funny to hear you talk about big quarterback. You're like, 588 00:24:29,975 --> 00:24:32,136 Speaker 2: you're a big dude, but you're not. 589 00:24:32,136 --> 00:24:34,936 Speaker 4: A When I met Eli Manning, it was like probably 590 00:24:34,975 --> 00:24:39,376 Speaker 4: the first NFL player that I. 591 00:24:38,296 --> 00:24:41,096 Speaker 1: Like stood next to, like stood, not just sit. And 592 00:24:41,096 --> 00:24:42,896 Speaker 1: there's a different And I met Elin on television. 593 00:24:42,936 --> 00:24:46,056 Speaker 2: He looks like just a dude, normal dude, and he's 594 00:24:46,256 --> 00:24:47,376 Speaker 2: kind of like, hey, I'm Eli. 595 00:24:47,536 --> 00:24:48,055 Speaker 6: He's sneaky. 596 00:24:48,176 --> 00:24:48,976 Speaker 2: He's a monster. 597 00:24:49,656 --> 00:24:54,656 Speaker 4: Sneaky's yeah, he's I had no idea, but that if 598 00:24:54,696 --> 00:24:57,495 Speaker 4: that's normal, it's a land of months. 599 00:24:57,495 --> 00:24:59,615 Speaker 3: Well it's funny too because in our world either not, 600 00:24:59,696 --> 00:25:01,856 Speaker 3: we don't consider them like a big quarterback like him. 601 00:25:02,215 --> 00:25:04,776 Speaker 4: He walks in here like I'm six one, he's six four, 602 00:25:05,576 --> 00:25:07,176 Speaker 4: he's but he's not big. 603 00:25:07,816 --> 00:25:10,376 Speaker 3: Yeah, Matt, Matt's and I so we we we equate 604 00:25:10,455 --> 00:25:13,336 Speaker 3: in the quarterback where I'm like, so Roethlisberger is a 605 00:25:13,336 --> 00:25:16,856 Speaker 3: big dude, right, Yeah, you're like six six. You look 606 00:25:16,856 --> 00:25:19,416 Speaker 3: at guys like Peyton Eli, I look, we kind of 607 00:25:19,416 --> 00:25:21,656 Speaker 3: think more like on their physical prowess, like you know, Peyton, 608 00:25:21,696 --> 00:25:22,656 Speaker 3: those guys they're gonna get. 609 00:25:22,536 --> 00:25:24,176 Speaker 6: They live on getting the ball out of their hands quick. 610 00:25:24,455 --> 00:25:26,896 Speaker 6: But you, I mean, you breathe on Peyton and. 611 00:25:26,856 --> 00:25:30,096 Speaker 2: They're going to go. 612 00:25:30,616 --> 00:25:33,416 Speaker 3: Is not gonna set himself up to get either, like Brady's. 613 00:25:33,576 --> 00:25:37,776 Speaker 3: Brady's a big athletic guy, but you but his demeanor 614 00:25:37,896 --> 00:25:41,376 Speaker 3: is never like physically overbearing to where there's certain guys 615 00:25:41,376 --> 00:25:42,536 Speaker 3: you're just like, holy crap. 616 00:25:42,696 --> 00:25:44,376 Speaker 6: You know those guys you got to worry. 617 00:25:44,256 --> 00:25:46,936 Speaker 3: About them beating the other physical attributes because they can 618 00:25:46,936 --> 00:25:48,896 Speaker 3: throw the ball, but mentally they know where they're going 619 00:25:48,936 --> 00:25:52,296 Speaker 3: before they go, right, that's what that's there, that's their 620 00:25:52,336 --> 00:25:53,136 Speaker 3: secret sauces. 621 00:25:53,536 --> 00:25:55,455 Speaker 6: They know everything you're going to do and then they 622 00:25:55,455 --> 00:25:56,255 Speaker 6: have a counter for it. 623 00:25:57,336 --> 00:25:59,455 Speaker 3: And so you know when we talk about guys that 624 00:25:59,495 --> 00:26:02,015 Speaker 3: were like, man, these guys are big physical guys. 625 00:26:02,495 --> 00:26:02,896 Speaker 6: You know you. 626 00:26:03,016 --> 00:26:06,096 Speaker 3: You you often led more towards the athletic guys. But yeah, 627 00:26:06,096 --> 00:26:08,735 Speaker 3: I mean, you can't be small and survive in the 628 00:26:08,816 --> 00:26:09,376 Speaker 3: in the league. 629 00:26:09,576 --> 00:26:11,136 Speaker 2: I mean I get that all the time too. It's 630 00:26:11,176 --> 00:26:13,536 Speaker 2: like you're a big dude. I didn't know you're that big. 631 00:26:13,936 --> 00:26:16,656 Speaker 5: I was like, I just look small because our offensive 632 00:26:16,656 --> 00:26:19,656 Speaker 5: linemen are six six, three hundred and twenty and you've 633 00:26:20,096 --> 00:26:23,216 Speaker 5: we just we we are presented in a different way. 634 00:26:23,256 --> 00:26:24,656 Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden, you see me. I'm like, 635 00:26:25,136 --> 00:26:28,816 Speaker 5: comparatively speaking, I'm yeah, I'm a pretty big dude. 636 00:26:28,856 --> 00:26:32,456 Speaker 2: Yeah. I went to Japan. I was a monster so good. 637 00:26:32,776 --> 00:26:34,936 Speaker 4: Oh dude, it was a great, like I'm taller than 638 00:26:34,975 --> 00:26:37,015 Speaker 4: the average person here. But I'm in Japan on the subway, 639 00:26:37,056 --> 00:26:39,215 Speaker 4: and I'm like, suck it, like I. 640 00:26:39,096 --> 00:26:41,176 Speaker 1: Am a gigantic human. 641 00:26:42,136 --> 00:26:44,096 Speaker 2: But that's what you guys still like you're here. Yeah, 642 00:26:44,336 --> 00:26:44,656 Speaker 2: I don't know. 643 00:26:45,735 --> 00:26:47,976 Speaker 3: I'm always like I don't I guess I don't even 644 00:26:48,016 --> 00:26:49,856 Speaker 3: think I'm that big at the time, and then. 645 00:26:49,696 --> 00:26:52,016 Speaker 2: People are like, you're hell big. I'm like, oh, hell, 646 00:26:52,455 --> 00:26:56,495 Speaker 2: that's aid Norang Cow coming drop weight? Or did you 647 00:26:56,495 --> 00:26:57,775 Speaker 2: gain weight after you finished playing? 648 00:26:57,816 --> 00:27:01,256 Speaker 3: No, I'm down probably twenty five pounds. I played like two. 649 00:27:01,376 --> 00:27:03,215 Speaker 3: I played at two fifty five most of my career. 650 00:27:03,816 --> 00:27:05,176 Speaker 3: I'm like thirty two. 651 00:27:06,136 --> 00:27:07,215 Speaker 2: Now is that natural? 652 00:27:07,576 --> 00:27:08,176 Speaker 6: Yeah? Meaning? 653 00:27:08,296 --> 00:27:08,696 Speaker 2: Was it hard? 654 00:27:08,816 --> 00:27:10,576 Speaker 1: Is it worked to drop weight? Where does it work 655 00:27:10,616 --> 00:27:11,696 Speaker 1: to keep I? 656 00:27:11,816 --> 00:27:13,656 Speaker 6: Uh know, I but I'm we like. 657 00:27:14,416 --> 00:27:16,416 Speaker 3: I have my own little mini farm over here. I 658 00:27:16,455 --> 00:27:19,376 Speaker 3: have my own orchard garden where you eat completely organic. 659 00:27:20,536 --> 00:27:24,016 Speaker 3: I try to avoid all all big food everything and 660 00:27:24,856 --> 00:27:27,096 Speaker 3: but no, and then I realized muscleway is more than fat. 661 00:27:27,336 --> 00:27:30,696 Speaker 6: So I just quit working out. So dropped quick. That's 662 00:27:30,696 --> 00:27:32,816 Speaker 6: one to twenty pounds muscle mass. 663 00:27:32,816 --> 00:27:36,096 Speaker 5: And uh, let's be honest, though, how many players that 664 00:27:36,215 --> 00:27:37,975 Speaker 5: we've played with over the years. 665 00:27:37,816 --> 00:27:39,936 Speaker 2: Go the exact Oh you only on one or too? 666 00:27:40,056 --> 00:27:41,775 Speaker 6: Did you guys see Tama Howley on the on the 667 00:27:41,856 --> 00:27:42,336 Speaker 6: Chiefs Stay? 668 00:27:42,536 --> 00:27:42,736 Speaker 2: Yeah? 669 00:27:42,896 --> 00:27:45,735 Speaker 6: Oh gosh, my stepdad sent me a picture. 670 00:27:45,735 --> 00:27:48,056 Speaker 3: I'm like, first of all, let's not let's not talk 671 00:27:48,056 --> 00:27:49,975 Speaker 3: about how Biky got. Let's talk about the fact that 672 00:27:50,056 --> 00:27:53,416 Speaker 3: dude is rocking a legit skullet. He has no hair 673 00:27:53,455 --> 00:27:55,176 Speaker 3: and he's got braids coming out the beat of it. 674 00:27:55,735 --> 00:27:57,535 Speaker 3: I haven't talked to Tomba in years, and I just 675 00:27:57,536 --> 00:27:59,975 Speaker 3: wonder if you're listening to this at all, Tamba, God 676 00:28:00,056 --> 00:28:00,616 Speaker 3: bless you. 677 00:28:00,735 --> 00:28:03,856 Speaker 1: Yes, Love, rock Daley got skinny. 678 00:28:04,296 --> 00:28:05,016 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. 679 00:28:05,096 --> 00:28:07,896 Speaker 5: I mean a lot of these guys they go the opposite, 680 00:28:07,975 --> 00:28:08,615 Speaker 5: the opposite way. 681 00:28:08,656 --> 00:28:11,656 Speaker 3: Kyle had to work hardest, Pat Pat Williams dropped one 682 00:28:11,696 --> 00:28:12,295 Speaker 3: hundred pounds. 683 00:28:12,376 --> 00:28:13,815 Speaker 2: It's amazing. Give it. 684 00:28:14,056 --> 00:28:16,216 Speaker 6: Uh, what do you mean you've seen? How you seen 685 00:28:16,296 --> 00:28:16,656 Speaker 6: Jake Long? 686 00:28:16,735 --> 00:28:18,336 Speaker 2: Right, it's drastic changes. 687 00:28:18,696 --> 00:28:20,855 Speaker 3: A lot of it's sucks a big guys that are 688 00:28:21,296 --> 00:28:23,535 Speaker 3: just big because our faces are big. So when our 689 00:28:23,536 --> 00:28:26,335 Speaker 3: bodies get small, our faces like, oh I just got 690 00:28:26,376 --> 00:28:27,216 Speaker 3: a big ass head. 691 00:28:28,056 --> 00:28:30,335 Speaker 2: Your head does stay the same size. Why didn't my 692 00:28:30,376 --> 00:28:31,496 Speaker 2: forehead shrink. 693 00:28:31,735 --> 00:28:34,136 Speaker 4: When I was a baby up until like six, and 694 00:28:34,176 --> 00:28:36,176 Speaker 4: I didn't grow like you guys did. My mom had 695 00:28:36,176 --> 00:28:37,775 Speaker 4: to go slits into my shirt because my head was 696 00:28:37,816 --> 00:28:40,216 Speaker 4: so big because they couldn't didn't fit it through. 697 00:28:40,496 --> 00:28:40,615 Speaker 2: Now. 698 00:28:40,696 --> 00:28:43,256 Speaker 4: Luckily for me, I chose a life of doing television 699 00:28:43,296 --> 00:28:46,536 Speaker 4: and radio and podcasting. So it works for me because 700 00:28:46,536 --> 00:28:49,576 Speaker 4: there's a large presentation of a face here. Yeah, but 701 00:28:49,616 --> 00:28:51,256 Speaker 4: as an accountant that was solid. 702 00:28:51,976 --> 00:28:52,496 Speaker 2: Yeah. 703 00:28:52,536 --> 00:28:54,776 Speaker 3: But when you walked into the form people like daddy 704 00:28:55,616 --> 00:28:58,336 Speaker 3: his head, yeah, you would be the big guy. 705 00:28:58,376 --> 00:29:00,456 Speaker 2: I get the circumference of that face like I can 706 00:29:00,576 --> 00:29:03,376 Speaker 2: just like man, that dude that is that is computing 707 00:29:03,416 --> 00:29:06,976 Speaker 2: powers off the charts brain how is huge? I take 708 00:29:07,016 --> 00:29:07,536 Speaker 2: a quick break. 709 00:29:07,576 --> 00:29:10,536 Speaker 4: We have more with Jared Allen coming up on lots 710 00:29:10,536 --> 00:29:27,136 Speaker 4: to say, how are you competing? 711 00:29:27,376 --> 00:29:28,416 Speaker 2: Do you need to compete? 712 00:29:28,416 --> 00:29:28,776 Speaker 4: It something? 713 00:29:29,016 --> 00:29:30,296 Speaker 2: Is it the curl Yes? 714 00:29:30,536 --> 00:29:32,096 Speaker 6: I was up to this year. 715 00:29:32,136 --> 00:29:34,416 Speaker 3: I had a little uh snap foo with USA Curling. 716 00:29:34,456 --> 00:29:35,816 Speaker 3: I got asked to be on Corey dropped in his 717 00:29:35,816 --> 00:29:38,376 Speaker 3: team as an alternate. They kind of blocked it. So 718 00:29:39,096 --> 00:29:41,256 Speaker 3: and the way the Olympic Trials is set up this year, 719 00:29:41,296 --> 00:29:43,296 Speaker 3: the first the top three point setters, which are pretty 720 00:29:43,336 --> 00:29:44,016 Speaker 3: much already set. 721 00:29:44,056 --> 00:29:45,216 Speaker 6: They're automatically and then. 722 00:29:45,096 --> 00:29:47,896 Speaker 3: I have a one like a one one tournament winner 723 00:29:47,936 --> 00:29:49,016 Speaker 3: take all for the fourth spot. 724 00:29:49,336 --> 00:29:51,456 Speaker 6: So next year we'll probably put a team together, try. 725 00:29:51,336 --> 00:29:51,696 Speaker 2: To do that. 726 00:29:52,816 --> 00:29:54,216 Speaker 6: I don't feel the need. I love it. I mean, 727 00:29:54,216 --> 00:29:55,216 Speaker 6: competing is always fun. 728 00:29:55,376 --> 00:29:56,976 Speaker 3: I don't feel the need to compete. I don't think 729 00:29:57,976 --> 00:29:59,496 Speaker 3: I just like having fun, be honest. 730 00:29:59,656 --> 00:30:01,136 Speaker 2: Talking about the curling thing a little bit. 731 00:30:02,456 --> 00:30:04,656 Speaker 5: I got when you got done right, you put you 732 00:30:04,696 --> 00:30:07,855 Speaker 5: compile the team of all x NFL guys, right, it 733 00:30:07,896 --> 00:30:08,336 Speaker 5: was bold? 734 00:30:08,376 --> 00:30:10,136 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was when I moved out here about seven 735 00:30:10,216 --> 00:30:11,696 Speaker 3: years ago. So I took a bet from a buddy 736 00:30:11,696 --> 00:30:14,696 Speaker 3: of mine to make the Olympics and. 737 00:30:14,736 --> 00:30:17,896 Speaker 2: Bet, like, what's that be consist of? Like it money? Yeah? 738 00:30:17,976 --> 00:30:18,376 Speaker 6: Well money? 739 00:30:18,616 --> 00:30:19,656 Speaker 2: It really might matter. 740 00:30:19,456 --> 00:30:21,056 Speaker 3: Because he couldn't afford the bet anyway, as he was 741 00:30:21,136 --> 00:30:23,216 Speaker 3: drawing it throughout a stupid number and. 742 00:30:23,176 --> 00:30:26,096 Speaker 2: Sow the best bets happened. Yeah. Yeah. 743 00:30:26,176 --> 00:30:27,815 Speaker 3: Well the first bet was I was supposed to make 744 00:30:27,816 --> 00:30:30,976 Speaker 3: the PGA, a PGA Tour event within three years of retiring. 745 00:30:31,056 --> 00:30:33,216 Speaker 3: So I was playing in the Tahoe Golf tournament and 746 00:30:33,296 --> 00:30:35,936 Speaker 3: I sucked. I was just playing the crap. He's like, 747 00:30:36,696 --> 00:30:38,456 Speaker 3: you have no chance, you guys. He's like, you might 748 00:30:38,456 --> 00:30:40,016 Speaker 3: as well, pay the bet now. And that's so I 749 00:30:40,016 --> 00:30:41,496 Speaker 3: told him. I was like, Okay, put the money in 750 00:30:41,656 --> 00:30:43,856 Speaker 3: escrow right now. You will put the money in escrow 751 00:30:43,896 --> 00:30:44,456 Speaker 3: and I'll match it. 752 00:30:44,696 --> 00:30:44,976 Speaker 2: I'll pay. 753 00:30:45,256 --> 00:30:45,815 Speaker 6: I couldn't do it. 754 00:30:45,816 --> 00:30:48,456 Speaker 3: So then we're over at the house nerves by the fire. 755 00:30:49,016 --> 00:30:51,456 Speaker 3: I'm uh you want, I'm like two for one bearing him, 756 00:30:51,496 --> 00:30:53,896 Speaker 3: you know, yeah, there you go. And so my final 757 00:30:54,216 --> 00:30:55,736 Speaker 3: have my buddies are all there and we'll start talking 758 00:30:55,736 --> 00:30:57,575 Speaker 3: about and I just watched Eddie the Eagle and I 759 00:30:57,656 --> 00:30:58,896 Speaker 3: was like, Moles. 760 00:30:58,936 --> 00:31:01,256 Speaker 2: It was like, let's parlay this, you know, Moles, Yes, yes, 761 00:31:01,816 --> 00:31:02,536 Speaker 2: beautiful human. 762 00:31:02,656 --> 00:31:05,056 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, what a train wreck. Love that guy and 763 00:31:05,656 --> 00:31:07,336 Speaker 3: probably you'll be probably the funniest hum ving on the 764 00:31:07,336 --> 00:31:10,056 Speaker 3: face of the earth. And he's talking about like small 765 00:31:10,096 --> 00:31:11,456 Speaker 3: but he's got like a big nose and so nobody 766 00:31:11,496 --> 00:31:13,016 Speaker 3: actually hit him because they feel bad for him, but 767 00:31:13,016 --> 00:31:14,816 Speaker 3: he just verbally assaults everybody. 768 00:31:15,256 --> 00:31:18,656 Speaker 6: Uh so that's always fun. And so we ended up 769 00:31:18,696 --> 00:31:19,376 Speaker 6: getting this bet. 770 00:31:19,696 --> 00:31:21,856 Speaker 3: And I just watched any Eagle and so I was like, Peter, 771 00:31:21,856 --> 00:31:24,416 Speaker 3: how about we parlay this into me making the Olympics, 772 00:31:24,976 --> 00:31:25,296 Speaker 3: all right? 773 00:31:25,296 --> 00:31:27,056 Speaker 6: And he was like done. 774 00:31:27,256 --> 00:31:30,456 Speaker 3: So I was originally started badminton and then Boulder. 775 00:31:30,816 --> 00:31:33,496 Speaker 2: That's tough. So Bulger I was like, I was like, 776 00:31:33,536 --> 00:31:35,095 Speaker 2: what don't you do with somebody that you know? Right? 777 00:31:35,136 --> 00:31:36,856 Speaker 6: And I was like, all right, Bulger, I just happen 778 00:31:36,896 --> 00:31:37,656 Speaker 6: to run a Bulger. 779 00:31:38,816 --> 00:31:41,496 Speaker 3: You want to try to make the Olympics as a 780 00:31:41,496 --> 00:31:43,416 Speaker 3: badminton player, and he was like, I'm in. 781 00:31:43,696 --> 00:31:44,896 Speaker 6: I was like, let's get it. 782 00:31:45,176 --> 00:31:46,976 Speaker 3: So I literally signed us up for like an average 783 00:31:47,056 --> 00:31:49,736 Speaker 3: Joe how dodgeball tournament, but bad meant up in like 784 00:31:49,816 --> 00:31:53,776 Speaker 3: some Catholic church in Jersey. And he comes with me 785 00:31:53,816 --> 00:31:56,136 Speaker 3: an email and he's like I can't do this. And 786 00:31:57,256 --> 00:32:01,376 Speaker 3: I was like, China national team with these dudes are 787 00:32:01,416 --> 00:32:05,856 Speaker 3: getting after it, Like man, there they're fine. Ten five 788 00:32:05,856 --> 00:32:08,696 Speaker 3: shuttles wh twenty our show is pretty impressive. And he's like, 789 00:32:08,936 --> 00:32:11,096 Speaker 3: my backbone, hold up. I'm like, yeah, I probably might 790 00:32:11,136 --> 00:32:12,976 Speaker 3: not either. I'm like, so we started looking at curling. 791 00:32:13,296 --> 00:32:14,816 Speaker 3: I was like, looking at all the sportstreet you weren't 792 00:32:14,856 --> 00:32:16,776 Speaker 3: very good at and on the website of the it's 793 00:32:16,816 --> 00:32:17,576 Speaker 3: like most people. 794 00:32:17,376 --> 00:32:20,256 Speaker 6: Start in their forties. The loser, the winner has to 795 00:32:20,256 --> 00:32:24,176 Speaker 6: buy the losers beer, and I'm like, this is fantastic. 796 00:32:24,216 --> 00:32:25,016 Speaker 6: I'm in love this. 797 00:32:25,176 --> 00:32:27,216 Speaker 2: So then I was having the bullet. 798 00:32:27,536 --> 00:32:29,456 Speaker 6: Our kids go to school together too, So I'm like, Keith, 799 00:32:29,496 --> 00:32:32,136 Speaker 6: you want to try to make it limbusy. He's like, yep, 800 00:32:32,256 --> 00:32:32,616 Speaker 6: I'm in. 801 00:32:33,096 --> 00:32:34,936 Speaker 3: So then Roos has having done with Russ and Roos 802 00:32:35,016 --> 00:32:38,576 Speaker 3: is like six six nine hundred pounds c literally talking 803 00:32:38,576 --> 00:32:39,256 Speaker 3: about a big guy man. 804 00:32:39,616 --> 00:32:41,376 Speaker 6: He's like six seven I think six seven. 805 00:32:41,176 --> 00:32:44,936 Speaker 3: Six eight, like three thirty and uh my, rous you 806 00:32:44,976 --> 00:32:46,616 Speaker 3: want to curl and get the dancing bear on the arts? 807 00:32:46,616 --> 00:32:50,576 Speaker 2: He was like, I mean, did you actually like it? Oh? 808 00:32:50,576 --> 00:32:52,056 Speaker 6: It's so much fun. I absolutely love it. 809 00:32:52,096 --> 00:32:54,176 Speaker 2: I love it now. It's it's tough because there's like. 810 00:32:54,176 --> 00:32:56,336 Speaker 3: A four they are like all four eight tournaments, right, 811 00:32:56,456 --> 00:32:58,696 Speaker 3: but we've traveled all over the world in Switzerland played 812 00:32:58,736 --> 00:33:02,136 Speaker 3: and uh uh we've we've qualified for four nationals. I've 813 00:33:02,136 --> 00:33:04,416 Speaker 3: played four four nationals, no, no joke. I actually have 814 00:33:04,416 --> 00:33:07,296 Speaker 3: a silver metal of a silver medal nationalist curler. So 815 00:33:07,416 --> 00:33:09,376 Speaker 3: my first year Rich Runs team asked me to be 816 00:33:09,416 --> 00:33:12,296 Speaker 3: the alternate for nationals, which is great. I'm like, lord, 817 00:33:12,336 --> 00:33:14,216 Speaker 3: great learning experience. We just practiced all that, but they 818 00:33:14,256 --> 00:33:16,416 Speaker 3: were whooping everybody. So I got to play like eight ens, right, 819 00:33:16,456 --> 00:33:16,696 Speaker 3: I was. 820 00:33:16,696 --> 00:33:18,336 Speaker 6: I was. I was the guy coming in the fourth 821 00:33:18,376 --> 00:33:19,216 Speaker 6: courting preseason. 822 00:33:20,056 --> 00:33:23,616 Speaker 2: I did it, and I did it a lot, don't worry, And. 823 00:33:23,616 --> 00:33:26,696 Speaker 3: I was coming in and getting after it right dead time, 824 00:33:26,936 --> 00:33:28,496 Speaker 3: and and. 825 00:33:28,496 --> 00:33:31,176 Speaker 6: So I played a leader. I didn't even think. 826 00:33:31,216 --> 00:33:33,896 Speaker 3: I'm like, there's no way that they taking second place. 827 00:33:33,896 --> 00:33:35,976 Speaker 3: They lost the shuster and I got a freaking silver 828 00:33:36,016 --> 00:33:37,616 Speaker 3: medal in the in the middle, and I'm like, there's 829 00:33:37,656 --> 00:33:38,736 Speaker 3: nothing about this sport that. 830 00:33:38,696 --> 00:33:44,056 Speaker 2: Makes your bed, But yes, it's fun. 831 00:33:45,096 --> 00:33:48,416 Speaker 3: I I realized though, curl I'm i'm i'm my competitive spirit. 832 00:33:48,456 --> 00:33:51,256 Speaker 3: I am very competitive obviously, but my competitive scrilling doesn't 833 00:33:51,296 --> 00:33:55,416 Speaker 3: necessarily or conspirit doesn't necessarily always translate to curling. Because 834 00:33:55,416 --> 00:33:56,896 Speaker 3: they have a thing called in the spirit of curling, 835 00:33:56,896 --> 00:33:59,256 Speaker 3: they're supposed to be nice to each other. And in 836 00:33:59,296 --> 00:34:00,856 Speaker 3: my first couple of years, we'd get off the ice 837 00:34:00,856 --> 00:34:03,256 Speaker 3: getting beat. I would shatter brooms in the locker room 838 00:34:03,296 --> 00:34:06,496 Speaker 3: and scare the piss and everybody. And curlers are dorks, Like, honestly, 839 00:34:06,536 --> 00:34:08,616 Speaker 3: I love them to death, but it's like bean counters. 840 00:34:08,616 --> 00:34:13,736 Speaker 3: They're all like quantum physics, like engineers, and they're all 841 00:34:13,776 --> 00:34:17,336 Speaker 3: wick and smart, and I'm just like, uh so when 842 00:34:17,616 --> 00:34:19,856 Speaker 3: a six sixth dude comes in and shadows a broom. 843 00:34:19,896 --> 00:34:21,016 Speaker 6: Everybody's like, oh, some. 844 00:34:21,016 --> 00:34:24,056 Speaker 5: Of you're not allowed to talk any crap whatsoever on 845 00:34:24,096 --> 00:34:24,416 Speaker 5: the ice. 846 00:34:25,016 --> 00:34:25,416 Speaker 2: It's fun. 847 00:34:25,856 --> 00:34:26,416 Speaker 6: It's frownd him. 848 00:34:26,416 --> 00:34:29,296 Speaker 3: I was very passive aggressive. It's like, nice shot, and 849 00:34:29,336 --> 00:34:30,536 Speaker 3: you're like, you know that wasn't nice shot. 850 00:34:30,536 --> 00:34:31,136 Speaker 6: I just missed. 851 00:34:31,696 --> 00:34:32,136 Speaker 2: I know. 852 00:34:34,216 --> 00:34:35,256 Speaker 6: It so stupid. 853 00:34:35,856 --> 00:34:37,896 Speaker 2: Oh that's so good. You keep up with the vikings 854 00:34:37,936 --> 00:34:39,376 Speaker 2: at all? Now I do. I do. 855 00:34:39,976 --> 00:34:41,616 Speaker 3: I don't watch a lot of football enough just to 856 00:34:42,216 --> 00:34:44,176 Speaker 3: you know, not be dumb when I get on the 857 00:34:44,256 --> 00:34:44,976 Speaker 3: radio or whatever. 858 00:34:45,096 --> 00:34:45,936 Speaker 2: But I do. 859 00:34:45,976 --> 00:34:49,616 Speaker 3: And I'm stoked that no one will thought we were 860 00:34:49,616 --> 00:34:53,096 Speaker 3: going this route, and it makes my uh not keep 861 00:34:53,176 --> 00:34:55,816 Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins comment make like a lot more. 862 00:34:57,656 --> 00:34:58,776 Speaker 2: Was that the big take for a while? 863 00:34:59,496 --> 00:35:01,656 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, well I got I didn't throw the bus, 864 00:35:01,696 --> 00:35:03,456 Speaker 6: although I think the organization wasn't the happiest. 865 00:35:03,536 --> 00:35:05,656 Speaker 3: I got calls from everybody just because I was asked 866 00:35:05,696 --> 00:35:08,136 Speaker 3: if they should resign Kurt, and I said, no, I don't know, Kurt. 867 00:35:09,096 --> 00:35:10,656 Speaker 3: Kurt makes as much money as you can. Let's keep 868 00:35:10,656 --> 00:35:13,056 Speaker 3: the game of the game, God bless you, and he has. 869 00:35:13,296 --> 00:35:15,936 Speaker 3: But I'm like, we cannot go out and pay forty 870 00:35:15,976 --> 00:35:19,696 Speaker 3: million dollars a year right for what he's you know, 871 00:35:19,776 --> 00:35:22,376 Speaker 3: if he's supposed to be. We we went five. He 872 00:35:22,456 --> 00:35:23,776 Speaker 3: was having the best year of his career and we 873 00:35:23,776 --> 00:35:25,696 Speaker 3: went five hundred. Right, we were like four and four 874 00:35:25,736 --> 00:35:28,016 Speaker 3: when he got hurt. We came in with guys that 875 00:35:28,216 --> 00:35:30,296 Speaker 3: literally I think they took somebody off a Southwest flight 876 00:35:30,336 --> 00:35:31,776 Speaker 3: and put him in a quarterback. 877 00:35:33,016 --> 00:35:34,336 Speaker 6: Like four and five. 878 00:35:34,456 --> 00:35:36,696 Speaker 3: You know, like it doesn't make sense to spend money 879 00:35:36,696 --> 00:35:38,216 Speaker 3: on that. Go get a draft pick, which they did. 880 00:35:38,216 --> 00:35:40,336 Speaker 3: And I think Kevin's a phenomenal coach and Corazy is 881 00:35:40,816 --> 00:35:43,096 Speaker 3: a great GM because Grazy does a great job of 882 00:35:43,096 --> 00:35:45,416 Speaker 3: taking all the analytics right. So I mean it's kind 883 00:35:45,416 --> 00:35:47,136 Speaker 3: of like two philosophy the NFL. Right, you got guys 884 00:35:47,136 --> 00:35:50,176 Speaker 3: that are solely film driven or player driven, then you 885 00:35:50,176 --> 00:35:52,336 Speaker 3: got guys are solely analytics driven. What I think the 886 00:35:52,376 --> 00:35:54,096 Speaker 3: Vikings are doing a great job right now. They're using 887 00:35:54,096 --> 00:35:57,576 Speaker 3: the analytics to get the players that Kevin wants, right, 888 00:35:57,576 --> 00:35:58,336 Speaker 3: and then Kevin us. 889 00:35:58,736 --> 00:35:59,936 Speaker 6: Kevin's so humble. 890 00:35:59,856 --> 00:36:02,696 Speaker 3: That he you know, he he works with guy and 891 00:36:02,696 --> 00:36:04,296 Speaker 3: you can just you can see the vibe that guys have. 892 00:36:04,376 --> 00:36:06,336 Speaker 3: You can see what Brian Floor is doing there. You 893 00:36:06,376 --> 00:36:08,216 Speaker 3: know they're gonna put guys in the best position to 894 00:36:08,256 --> 00:36:11,776 Speaker 3: be successful, not necessarily put guys for their you know, 895 00:36:11,816 --> 00:36:13,496 Speaker 3: for their system to be successful. 896 00:36:13,536 --> 00:36:14,896 Speaker 1: If that makes sense, Well, what do you think about 897 00:36:14,896 --> 00:36:15,656 Speaker 1: the quarterback situation? 898 00:36:15,696 --> 00:36:16,976 Speaker 2: We're talking about it. We will not lead you in 899 00:36:16,976 --> 00:36:19,176 Speaker 2: any direction. We have our thoughts. But what's happened with 900 00:36:19,296 --> 00:36:20,816 Speaker 2: Donald slash? Do you sign them? 901 00:36:20,816 --> 00:36:20,896 Speaker 4: So? 902 00:36:21,216 --> 00:36:22,456 Speaker 6: I don't think, I don't think you pay them. 903 00:36:22,456 --> 00:36:24,376 Speaker 3: I mean you got to look at I mean I think, 904 00:36:24,496 --> 00:36:25,816 Speaker 3: I mean, now you win a super Bowl with them, 905 00:36:25,816 --> 00:36:28,696 Speaker 3: where you get the NFC championship game, he's going to 906 00:36:28,736 --> 00:36:29,256 Speaker 3: get paid. 907 00:36:29,616 --> 00:36:31,416 Speaker 6: But here's the problem, and this is what Sam is 908 00:36:31,416 --> 00:36:32,256 Speaker 6: probably going a lot long. 909 00:36:32,416 --> 00:36:34,136 Speaker 3: He's you're when you're a top pick, you go to 910 00:36:34,136 --> 00:36:37,096 Speaker 3: a crappy team, and then he went to another crappy team. 911 00:36:37,336 --> 00:36:39,536 Speaker 6: So now we're on the team that has parts and pieces. 912 00:36:39,576 --> 00:36:42,736 Speaker 3: You got to Sam, Donald's not the guy, and you know, 913 00:36:43,056 --> 00:36:45,176 Speaker 3: just in the same way like you know, but you 914 00:36:45,256 --> 00:36:47,016 Speaker 3: have success if he if he takes them in and 915 00:36:47,296 --> 00:36:49,736 Speaker 3: let's say you go deep in the playoffs, a crappy 916 00:36:49,736 --> 00:36:51,056 Speaker 3: team is going to sign him to try to be 917 00:36:51,136 --> 00:36:52,416 Speaker 3: the guy, and they're not going to surround him with 918 00:36:52,456 --> 00:36:54,736 Speaker 3: the pieces. And I think that's what the Vikings have done. Great, 919 00:36:55,016 --> 00:36:57,576 Speaker 3: they're not making Sam try to beat everybody, But what 920 00:36:57,616 --> 00:36:58,896 Speaker 3: you want a guy that can do You hate to 921 00:36:58,936 --> 00:37:00,376 Speaker 3: use her a game manager, but I always say, like, 922 00:37:00,456 --> 00:37:01,336 Speaker 3: just don't screw it up. 923 00:37:01,856 --> 00:37:03,696 Speaker 6: Hand the ball off, throw your time to I. 924 00:37:03,616 --> 00:37:06,576 Speaker 3: Mean with Justin Jeffers said, I think I can play 925 00:37:06,656 --> 00:37:09,696 Speaker 3: quarterback and be decent. But I don't know that you 926 00:37:09,696 --> 00:37:13,216 Speaker 3: can pay him what he's going to be acquired because now, 927 00:37:13,856 --> 00:37:14,335 Speaker 3: but I don't. 928 00:37:14,536 --> 00:37:14,936 Speaker 2: I wouldn't. 929 00:37:14,936 --> 00:37:16,496 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be opposed for this star. I wouldn't be 930 00:37:16,496 --> 00:37:18,456 Speaker 3: opposed if they could get him at somewhat a bargain. 931 00:37:18,736 --> 00:37:21,536 Speaker 3: That's another one you wantin yeah, twenty. 932 00:37:21,416 --> 00:37:23,056 Speaker 6: In this in this market, twenty five a. 933 00:37:23,016 --> 00:37:24,456 Speaker 2: Year, I was saying, thirty five forty. 934 00:37:24,576 --> 00:37:26,656 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't. I wouldn't pay him. Thirty five to forty. 935 00:37:26,456 --> 00:37:29,136 Speaker 2: Fifty is like top tier. That's the two. That's the 936 00:37:29,976 --> 00:37:30,736 Speaker 2: I just don't think you. 937 00:37:30,656 --> 00:37:32,736 Speaker 3: Can pay him thirty five forty based on one but 938 00:37:32,856 --> 00:37:35,496 Speaker 3: one year's body of work, right, because if you have, 939 00:37:35,656 --> 00:37:38,136 Speaker 3: you got to look over the the totality of what 940 00:37:38,176 --> 00:37:41,616 Speaker 3: he's done. And yeah, there's circumstances, but I if you, 941 00:37:41,656 --> 00:37:44,216 Speaker 3: if you could get him for some thirty, I would say, yeah, 942 00:37:44,336 --> 00:37:47,336 Speaker 3: let let JJ sit back there and uh and suck it. 943 00:37:47,336 --> 00:37:48,056 Speaker 6: Up for a couple of years. 944 00:37:48,096 --> 00:37:50,376 Speaker 5: I think also the from a quarterback perspective, he goes 945 00:37:50,376 --> 00:37:54,096 Speaker 5: into this offseason says, yes, somebody might offer me that 946 00:37:54,776 --> 00:37:57,696 Speaker 5: fifty forty five, say forty just based on what he 947 00:37:57,776 --> 00:38:00,416 Speaker 5: did last year, but you're going to a worst team. 948 00:38:01,136 --> 00:38:03,256 Speaker 2: So I think Minnesota's bargaining power. 949 00:38:03,056 --> 00:38:05,336 Speaker 5: Is the fact that if you give me a fair 950 00:38:05,456 --> 00:38:09,016 Speaker 5: market deal and within the realm of what we were 951 00:38:09,056 --> 00:38:11,576 Speaker 5: just talking about, now he knows he can come back 952 00:38:11,616 --> 00:38:13,816 Speaker 5: and has success because he's seen the other side of it, 953 00:38:13,936 --> 00:38:17,016 Speaker 5: right the other side of the Jets, in the Panthers 954 00:38:17,096 --> 00:38:20,016 Speaker 5: and now being thrown to the Wolves and saying, you 955 00:38:20,056 --> 00:38:22,416 Speaker 5: know what, this guy, maybe he's a bus he's no good. 956 00:38:22,456 --> 00:38:23,936 Speaker 5: Goes to the forty nine er, see how a real 957 00:38:24,016 --> 00:38:26,776 Speaker 5: organization's run. Then he comes here and he has his 958 00:38:26,816 --> 00:38:28,896 Speaker 5: first real team and supporting casts around him. He has 959 00:38:28,896 --> 00:38:32,056 Speaker 5: a tremendous amount of success. If I'm him, I'm going 960 00:38:32,136 --> 00:38:34,376 Speaker 5: to take a little bit of a pay cut to 961 00:38:34,496 --> 00:38:36,776 Speaker 5: come back to an organization that believes in me, that 962 00:38:36,856 --> 00:38:39,936 Speaker 5: I led this year, that I have the locker room 963 00:38:40,016 --> 00:38:43,256 Speaker 5: everything else. Because that's going to create more longevity in 964 00:38:43,296 --> 00:38:45,576 Speaker 5: the long run for you as a player, versus now 965 00:38:45,616 --> 00:38:47,336 Speaker 5: you go test the waters again and you go and 966 00:38:47,376 --> 00:38:48,496 Speaker 5: you're at a rebuilding. 967 00:38:48,576 --> 00:38:51,656 Speaker 3: Oh, I agree. The only downfall is that you know, 968 00:38:51,736 --> 00:38:54,136 Speaker 3: you have a top Where do they take jj att 969 00:38:54,416 --> 00:38:54,976 Speaker 3: ten ten? 970 00:38:55,056 --> 00:38:55,216 Speaker 2: Right? 971 00:38:55,256 --> 00:38:57,616 Speaker 3: You have a top ten pit, So you have a 972 00:38:57,616 --> 00:38:59,656 Speaker 3: couple of down games. You know how the fans are. 973 00:38:59,656 --> 00:39:01,496 Speaker 3: I mean, it's every team. That's the nature of the beast, 974 00:39:01,656 --> 00:39:05,216 Speaker 3: theajure the beasts. So I think, yeah, I would, I 975 00:39:05,536 --> 00:39:07,216 Speaker 3: hope they would look at it. I think what he's 976 00:39:07,216 --> 00:39:09,456 Speaker 3: done has been amazing. I think, I be honest, I 977 00:39:09,496 --> 00:39:11,536 Speaker 3: just I love seeing I love seeing under I like 978 00:39:11,576 --> 00:39:13,456 Speaker 3: to see like the rejuvenation of people's clubs. 979 00:39:13,616 --> 00:39:13,736 Speaker 2: Right. 980 00:39:14,376 --> 00:39:16,176 Speaker 3: But I think the most important thing to look at too, 981 00:39:16,216 --> 00:39:18,336 Speaker 3: and I always say this, when you got guys that 982 00:39:18,376 --> 00:39:20,776 Speaker 3: are clearly good players, right, You'll see it when guys 983 00:39:20,776 --> 00:39:22,736 Speaker 3: switch teams and they have a dramatic dip or something. 984 00:39:22,896 --> 00:39:25,776 Speaker 3: It's usually coaching, right, you know, It's it's how your 985 00:39:26,096 --> 00:39:29,496 Speaker 3: coaches can make a huge difference on how they manage you, right, 986 00:39:29,576 --> 00:39:32,296 Speaker 3: and and how what what that stress level looks like. 987 00:39:32,336 --> 00:39:34,616 Speaker 3: I mean again, you got you have an overbearant coach 988 00:39:34,616 --> 00:39:37,376 Speaker 3: who wants full control. You know, you might not get 989 00:39:37,376 --> 00:39:38,256 Speaker 3: the best out of that player. 990 00:39:38,336 --> 00:39:41,656 Speaker 5: Russell Wilson is a great exam guy, went to what 991 00:39:41,936 --> 00:39:44,656 Speaker 5: eight Pro Bowls in the ten year span, won a 992 00:39:44,696 --> 00:39:47,976 Speaker 5: Super Bowl, goes to Denver. Not in the great situation 993 00:39:48,056 --> 00:39:50,256 Speaker 5: with the with Hackett in there is their new head coach. 994 00:39:50,296 --> 00:39:52,056 Speaker 5: He gets fired by the end of the season. Sean 995 00:39:52,096 --> 00:39:55,696 Speaker 5: Payton comes in. He's one of those guys control. It's 996 00:39:55,696 --> 00:39:58,456 Speaker 5: his way. There's no in between, right, there's no middle. 997 00:39:58,496 --> 00:40:00,776 Speaker 5: It's black and white, you know. And he didn't have 998 00:40:00,816 --> 00:40:03,176 Speaker 5: a bad season last year, that's the crazy part about it. 999 00:40:03,256 --> 00:40:05,216 Speaker 5: But they just don't want to pay him. They release him. 1000 00:40:05,216 --> 00:40:07,216 Speaker 5: Now he's on the Steelers and he's probably got a 1001 00:40:07,216 --> 00:40:08,816 Speaker 5: better supporting cast and all that stuff. 1002 00:40:08,976 --> 00:40:10,656 Speaker 2: But what if they won nine straight? 1003 00:40:10,816 --> 00:40:14,816 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's amazing how much environment and situation 1004 00:40:15,336 --> 00:40:16,056 Speaker 5: impact players. 1005 00:40:16,736 --> 00:40:18,736 Speaker 3: And I don't think enough players look at that when 1006 00:40:18,776 --> 00:40:22,376 Speaker 3: when they're making decisions, right, I mean, it's understanding the 1007 00:40:22,416 --> 00:40:24,456 Speaker 3: environment you're going into is huge. Like so I can 1008 00:40:24,496 --> 00:40:26,696 Speaker 3: see Donald now depending on what New York that the 1009 00:40:26,736 --> 00:40:30,176 Speaker 3: Giants do, right, I mean, the ball is supposed to 1010 00:40:30,176 --> 00:40:33,976 Speaker 3: be this offensive genius guru, But who do they have? 1011 00:40:34,056 --> 00:40:36,496 Speaker 3: So if I'm Sam, I'm going to this year, you know, 1012 00:40:36,816 --> 00:40:39,776 Speaker 3: I look at a who's who's my who's my offensive staff? 1013 00:40:39,896 --> 00:40:41,816 Speaker 6: Right? And then who's my supporting cast? 1014 00:40:41,856 --> 00:40:44,376 Speaker 3: Like you know, just I don't know what did they 1015 00:40:44,456 --> 00:40:46,536 Speaker 3: do down in Tampa if they paid you know, Mayfield 1016 00:40:46,616 --> 00:40:46,936 Speaker 3: or not. 1017 00:40:47,256 --> 00:40:48,216 Speaker 2: They get alien? 1018 00:40:48,336 --> 00:40:50,896 Speaker 6: So yeah, I just don't know where where does he go? 1019 00:40:51,096 --> 00:40:52,936 Speaker 2: Well, did the Vikings have any I mean, we're giving 1020 00:40:52,976 --> 00:40:54,536 Speaker 2: Donald all the power in the situation, but did the 1021 00:40:54,576 --> 00:40:57,816 Speaker 2: Vikings want to pay him thirty million? Thirty five million? 1022 00:40:57,856 --> 00:40:59,256 Speaker 2: Would they do that? Do you think? 1023 00:41:00,136 --> 00:41:00,256 Speaker 3: No? 1024 00:41:00,416 --> 00:41:01,736 Speaker 6: I think I think the way Quazi's is going to 1025 00:41:01,776 --> 00:41:02,736 Speaker 6: look at it, I mean I. 1026 00:41:02,696 --> 00:41:04,336 Speaker 2: Think, like, do they want them back? 1027 00:41:05,376 --> 00:41:07,296 Speaker 3: I mean I think you'd be dumb to say you 1028 00:41:07,376 --> 00:41:09,136 Speaker 3: don't want him back. I mean because I mean, look 1029 00:41:09,296 --> 00:41:11,496 Speaker 3: look at the success you have. I think any coach, 1030 00:41:11,736 --> 00:41:15,656 Speaker 3: any organization wants consistency. So if you have consistency, they 1031 00:41:15,656 --> 00:41:18,176 Speaker 3: obviously know what they have. But you know, they put 1032 00:41:18,256 --> 00:41:19,136 Speaker 3: JJ down. 1033 00:41:19,096 --> 00:41:19,656 Speaker 6: For a reason. 1034 00:41:21,056 --> 00:41:23,456 Speaker 3: Best thing for him, I think, best thing for Sam 1035 00:41:23,496 --> 00:41:27,256 Speaker 3: because it created no tension, no controversy. Right, So again, 1036 00:41:27,336 --> 00:41:29,576 Speaker 3: I think it all depends on where you end up. 1037 00:41:29,816 --> 00:41:31,936 Speaker 3: Where you end up in the playoffs. I mean, look 1038 00:41:31,936 --> 00:41:34,616 Speaker 3: at the North. The North is stupid good, right, and 1039 00:41:34,656 --> 00:41:37,256 Speaker 3: the Bears are only going to get better, right, And 1040 00:41:37,256 --> 00:41:39,416 Speaker 3: that's so that's another situation you look like, look at 1041 00:41:39,456 --> 00:41:41,335 Speaker 3: where the Bear should probably be, what capab Willings should 1042 00:41:41,336 --> 00:41:42,856 Speaker 3: be if they had the proper coaching staff in there, 1043 00:41:43,136 --> 00:41:46,576 Speaker 3: you know, because they went out and spent money this offseason. 1044 00:41:46,816 --> 00:41:49,536 Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's just been one of those unfortunate things 1045 00:41:49,536 --> 00:41:50,096 Speaker 5: for Caleb. 1046 00:41:50,176 --> 00:41:51,576 Speaker 2: He's had his own growing pains. 1047 00:41:51,576 --> 00:41:54,216 Speaker 5: He hasn't played well of times, but again he's got 1048 00:41:54,256 --> 00:41:56,336 Speaker 5: a supporting cast around him. They've got to get better 1049 00:41:56,376 --> 00:41:59,176 Speaker 5: on the offensive line, absolutely, But like you said, the 1050 00:41:59,256 --> 00:42:03,856 Speaker 5: North is and they're young Detroit, Minnesota, and then you 1051 00:42:03,936 --> 00:42:04,616 Speaker 5: got Chicago. 1052 00:42:04,696 --> 00:42:06,416 Speaker 3: So I think I think the Vikings are in a 1053 00:42:06,456 --> 00:42:09,016 Speaker 3: situation where they absolutely would would take them back for 1054 00:42:09,056 --> 00:42:11,896 Speaker 3: the right circumstances. And you got a top ten pick 1055 00:42:11,936 --> 00:42:13,336 Speaker 3: that you can groom for two years. I mean you 1056 00:42:13,456 --> 00:42:15,336 Speaker 3: look at the success guys that have sat for a 1057 00:42:15,376 --> 00:42:17,656 Speaker 3: couple of years have had. Look at Aaron Rodgers, look 1058 00:42:17,656 --> 00:42:20,536 Speaker 3: at Jordan Love. I think you can there's probably a 1059 00:42:20,576 --> 00:42:23,096 Speaker 3: handful of other that that you could. You can name 1060 00:42:23,816 --> 00:42:26,656 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, right, I mean, so you look at guys 1061 00:42:26,696 --> 00:42:28,656 Speaker 3: that you know, so I think if you could get 1062 00:42:28,736 --> 00:42:30,656 Speaker 3: Donald on a two year I mean even if you 1063 00:42:30,656 --> 00:42:33,416 Speaker 3: get him on like a two year I don't. 1064 00:42:33,216 --> 00:42:34,776 Speaker 6: Know, seventy something like that. 1065 00:42:34,856 --> 00:42:37,496 Speaker 3: I mean, maybe it's worth it two years sixty, uh, 1066 00:42:37,856 --> 00:42:39,176 Speaker 3: just to kind of stop you up that and have 1067 00:42:39,216 --> 00:42:40,576 Speaker 3: some consistency going forward. 1068 00:42:42,096 --> 00:42:43,216 Speaker 6: Yeah, because the North is tough. 1069 00:42:43,256 --> 00:42:44,936 Speaker 3: So I think they do want him back, but I 1070 00:42:44,936 --> 00:42:46,336 Speaker 3: think it's but the Vikings, I think are in a 1071 00:42:46,376 --> 00:42:48,896 Speaker 3: great position because they can stay strong to the price 1072 00:42:48,976 --> 00:42:50,616 Speaker 3: that they have. They have they have the guy that 1073 00:42:50,656 --> 00:42:52,896 Speaker 3: they want in the in the in the future, and 1074 00:42:52,936 --> 00:42:53,736 Speaker 3: where's he going to go. 1075 00:42:54,736 --> 00:42:57,056 Speaker 5: But that's the thing with JJ, You're you're also you 1076 00:42:57,216 --> 00:42:58,896 Speaker 5: have to make the decision based on the fact you're 1077 00:42:58,976 --> 00:43:01,416 Speaker 5: rolling the dice. JJ has not taken a snap in 1078 00:43:01,456 --> 00:43:04,896 Speaker 5: the NFL. He came from a program in Michigan under 1079 00:43:04,976 --> 00:43:08,136 Speaker 5: Jim hart Ball where they ran the football. Now, I'm 1080 00:43:08,176 --> 00:43:10,376 Speaker 5: not taking anything away from j. J. McCarthy because I 1081 00:43:10,376 --> 00:43:12,616 Speaker 5: watched him in person, and this dude's legit, Like, he 1082 00:43:12,696 --> 00:43:15,896 Speaker 5: makes plays, he can extend plays, he's got a great arm. 1083 00:43:15,976 --> 00:43:19,616 Speaker 5: But again, it was a very run first offensive unit 1084 00:43:19,656 --> 00:43:22,376 Speaker 5: and they were just better than their opponents, and then 1085 00:43:22,376 --> 00:43:25,296 Speaker 5: all of a sudden you say, okay, we're gonna let 1086 00:43:25,376 --> 00:43:28,016 Speaker 5: him step in and take over. Which Minnesota throws the 1087 00:43:28,016 --> 00:43:30,136 Speaker 5: ball a lot more than they did at Michigan. So 1088 00:43:30,216 --> 00:43:34,016 Speaker 5: it'll just be interesting to see how that looks right 1089 00:43:34,056 --> 00:43:36,136 Speaker 5: moving forward, if they believe that JJ is the guy 1090 00:43:36,176 --> 00:43:39,096 Speaker 5: that can step in day one as a first, first 1091 00:43:39,136 --> 00:43:41,896 Speaker 5: time starter basically in this league and pick up where 1092 00:43:41,896 --> 00:43:43,696 Speaker 5: they left off this year. Because you're trying to go, 1093 00:43:43,856 --> 00:43:46,496 Speaker 5: especially with the direction, like I said, of that division. 1094 00:43:46,136 --> 00:43:48,576 Speaker 3: That's the problem, right, I don't think any I'll be honest, 1095 00:43:48,656 --> 00:43:49,736 Speaker 3: I didn't expect to be tended too. 1096 00:43:49,736 --> 00:43:50,656 Speaker 6: I didn't expect them, you know. 1097 00:43:50,696 --> 00:43:52,056 Speaker 3: I was like, man, if we could get to we 1098 00:43:52,176 --> 00:43:56,296 Speaker 3: if we have a five hundred, or if we're slightly here, 1099 00:43:56,336 --> 00:43:57,936 Speaker 3: I am, I'm like, we like I'm still a part 1100 00:43:57,976 --> 00:44:01,376 Speaker 3: of the organization. I just well, well my name's in 1101 00:44:01,376 --> 00:44:03,136 Speaker 3: the stadium, so I figured I could say we got 1102 00:44:03,136 --> 00:44:06,416 Speaker 3: away with it. Crazy is probably like you have zero 1103 00:44:06,496 --> 00:44:10,656 Speaker 3: pool shut up. So but I think I think if 1104 00:44:10,696 --> 00:44:15,176 Speaker 3: they can literally I viewed Donald's as a stop gap, right, 1105 00:44:15,256 --> 00:44:17,496 Speaker 3: but you can't because you know, if if we would 1106 00:44:17,496 --> 00:44:20,296 Speaker 3: have been five hundred, maybe even. 1107 00:44:20,136 --> 00:44:22,816 Speaker 6: Into the playoffs wildcard. I mean still might be the wildcard. 1108 00:44:22,816 --> 00:44:25,336 Speaker 3: But you know what I mean, if you're if you're okay, 1109 00:44:25,456 --> 00:44:27,976 Speaker 3: everybody'll be like, dang o' conlin's gonna be coach of 1110 00:44:27,976 --> 00:44:28,256 Speaker 3: the year. 1111 00:44:29,456 --> 00:44:32,096 Speaker 2: If he's not, Flores might be coach of the year. 1112 00:44:32,136 --> 00:44:33,816 Speaker 2: What he's doing there, d. 1113 00:44:34,256 --> 00:44:36,296 Speaker 6: Just killing it. So he might be gone. We'll see 1114 00:44:36,336 --> 00:44:38,736 Speaker 6: what happens there. But then you tell Donald, so it's like. 1115 00:44:38,736 --> 00:44:41,136 Speaker 3: You can't, like, you're right, you know, if you're not 1116 00:44:41,216 --> 00:44:45,056 Speaker 3: in this position where you're literally fighting, you know, one 1117 00:44:45,096 --> 00:44:47,856 Speaker 3: of the league's best records, you can't go backwards. 1118 00:44:47,936 --> 00:44:49,616 Speaker 4: He's also twenty seven, which helps to if you are 1119 00:44:49,696 --> 00:44:51,376 Speaker 4: thirty three, it would be a different story as well. 1120 00:44:51,456 --> 00:44:55,216 Speaker 3: Well, right, you're coming off an Achilles, you're coming off that. 1121 00:44:55,416 --> 00:44:58,896 Speaker 3: So the Vikers were like, we can't, we can't do that, right, 1122 00:45:00,256 --> 00:45:02,576 Speaker 3: And so you you you find lightning and bottle of 1123 00:45:02,616 --> 00:45:03,896 Speaker 3: Sam Donald, I think you got to write it on 1124 00:45:03,976 --> 00:45:06,456 Speaker 3: as long as possible. But and again, I just I'm 1125 00:45:06,696 --> 00:45:08,216 Speaker 3: trying to think of all the teams throughout the league 1126 00:45:08,296 --> 00:45:10,416 Speaker 3: right now. I don't know where he goes to get 1127 00:45:10,416 --> 00:45:12,656 Speaker 3: a big payday that's going to give him the supporting 1128 00:45:12,696 --> 00:45:14,896 Speaker 3: cast Minnesota. So I'm with you. I take a pick cut. 1129 00:45:15,136 --> 00:45:17,456 Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean you're gonna you're gonna get increase 1130 00:45:17,496 --> 00:45:18,376 Speaker 3: to make a what ten year now? 1131 00:45:18,616 --> 00:45:21,296 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you guys are smart and retired, right, Remember 1132 00:45:21,296 --> 00:45:24,496 Speaker 4: when you were twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, did 1133 00:45:24,536 --> 00:45:25,176 Speaker 4: you smart? 1134 00:45:25,576 --> 00:45:25,815 Speaker 1: Right? 1135 00:45:25,896 --> 00:45:27,096 Speaker 2: Exactly what it was? 1136 00:45:27,576 --> 00:45:30,376 Speaker 4: It was, I need to make sure I can get paid, 1137 00:45:30,896 --> 00:45:33,856 Speaker 4: so I can because what you know, the average player 1138 00:45:33,936 --> 00:45:35,856 Speaker 4: plays for so long and injuries. 1139 00:45:36,736 --> 00:45:39,096 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think I think he's in a situation where, 1140 00:45:39,576 --> 00:45:43,496 Speaker 3: you know, he's definitely he's caught the eye of the 1141 00:45:43,576 --> 00:45:47,496 Speaker 3: of the entire league, right right, and there's gonna be 1142 00:45:47,896 --> 00:45:52,016 Speaker 3: there's gonna be unfair expectations put on him. And I think, 1143 00:45:52,136 --> 00:45:54,096 Speaker 3: like you said, he's got the unique privilege though, of 1144 00:45:54,136 --> 00:45:55,456 Speaker 3: knowing what the other end looks like. 1145 00:45:55,696 --> 00:45:55,856 Speaker 2: Here. 1146 00:45:55,856 --> 00:45:57,856 Speaker 3: I remember most young guys like myself, I mean, we 1147 00:45:57,856 --> 00:46:00,616 Speaker 3: were just you know, I come off leaving the league 1148 00:46:00,656 --> 00:46:03,856 Speaker 3: in sacks from getting paid. I will go anywhere over 1149 00:46:03,976 --> 00:46:06,336 Speaker 3: my handle dirt, you know, let me come. But at 1150 00:46:06,336 --> 00:46:07,296 Speaker 3: the end of the day too, I mean I had 1151 00:46:07,336 --> 00:46:09,816 Speaker 3: a chance to go to Tampa. It was between Tampa Minnesota, 1152 00:46:09,816 --> 00:46:11,456 Speaker 3: and Minnesota was a better fit for me based on 1153 00:46:11,496 --> 00:46:13,016 Speaker 3: who they had with with the D line, I mean 1154 00:46:13,056 --> 00:46:15,056 Speaker 3: Pat and Kevin Williams, you know, Ray Edwards. On the 1155 00:46:15,056 --> 00:46:16,656 Speaker 3: other side, you had Antonine w Field, like we had 1156 00:46:16,856 --> 00:46:20,616 Speaker 3: we had guy Adrian Peterson. So you know, guys look 1157 00:46:20,656 --> 00:46:21,936 Speaker 3: at that because you do want to win Super Bowl. 1158 00:46:21,936 --> 00:46:25,096 Speaker 3: And then from a quarterback position, you know super Bowls, playoffs, 1159 00:46:25,136 --> 00:46:28,376 Speaker 3: wins matter, right, you know those other positions defensive guys, 1160 00:46:28,776 --> 00:46:31,416 Speaker 3: stats matter for almost right, I mean all wins matter, right. 1161 00:46:31,616 --> 00:46:32,096 Speaker 6: You want to win. 1162 00:46:32,176 --> 00:46:34,976 Speaker 3: But my career is not judged, but my winner lost record. 1163 00:46:35,296 --> 00:46:37,096 Speaker 3: Sam Donald's career will be a judge by his winner 1164 00:46:37,136 --> 00:46:39,736 Speaker 3: loss record, right, And so I think he's got to 1165 00:46:39,736 --> 00:46:42,976 Speaker 3: take that into accountability or take that into account when 1166 00:46:43,016 --> 00:46:45,696 Speaker 3: he's when he's looking at this and again, I mean, 1167 00:46:45,896 --> 00:46:47,496 Speaker 3: he knows what it's like to be on a crappy 1168 00:46:47,496 --> 00:46:49,936 Speaker 3: team with all the expectations riding on you. 1169 00:46:50,256 --> 00:46:54,736 Speaker 5: And I understand what Bobby saying, he's. 1170 00:46:53,176 --> 00:46:53,816 Speaker 2: A year if it's not. 1171 00:46:53,856 --> 00:46:56,736 Speaker 5: Everybody looks at it like as a player, a lot 1172 00:46:56,736 --> 00:46:59,296 Speaker 5: of time, you're trying to capitalize and make the most 1173 00:46:59,296 --> 00:47:01,376 Speaker 5: money that you can because you know that tomorrow's not 1174 00:47:01,416 --> 00:47:04,936 Speaker 5: promised because of the injury rate. You also know that hey, 1175 00:47:05,016 --> 00:47:07,456 Speaker 5: when you fall out a favor, you have an up 1176 00:47:07,496 --> 00:47:09,536 Speaker 5: and down year or whatever, they're looking for the next 1177 00:47:09,536 --> 00:47:12,976 Speaker 5: best thing, and you're replaceable. Everybody in this league is replaceable. 1178 00:47:13,416 --> 00:47:15,816 Speaker 5: And so I understand what you're saying. If somebody comes 1179 00:47:15,856 --> 00:47:18,256 Speaker 5: in and says, hey, we'll give you fifty million dollars 1180 00:47:18,256 --> 00:47:21,056 Speaker 5: a year, and you're getting thirty five over here, that's 1181 00:47:21,096 --> 00:47:24,576 Speaker 5: fifteen more, you're like, I can deal with some of 1182 00:47:24,576 --> 00:47:25,096 Speaker 5: these guys. 1183 00:47:25,136 --> 00:47:28,216 Speaker 2: We'll figure it out. Make sure he's guaranteed, Yeah, make sure. 1184 00:47:28,496 --> 00:47:28,936 Speaker 2: And that's what. 1185 00:47:31,616 --> 00:47:34,376 Speaker 5: So many of these guys now, they're signing guaranteed deals, 1186 00:47:34,456 --> 00:47:36,256 Speaker 5: especially if you're coming to be the franchise guy, that 1187 00:47:36,296 --> 00:47:37,136 Speaker 5: there's guaranteed. 1188 00:47:37,176 --> 00:47:40,456 Speaker 2: Now, it's not Wan Soto money really, but what is 1189 00:47:40,776 --> 00:47:43,496 Speaker 2: what it? Ever has been talking about this. 1190 00:47:43,616 --> 00:47:45,776 Speaker 6: But he's only fifty million year. Patrick Mahomes making fifty 1191 00:47:45,776 --> 00:47:46,376 Speaker 6: million year. 1192 00:47:46,256 --> 00:47:48,336 Speaker 1: It's seven hundred million over fifteen years. 1193 00:47:48,896 --> 00:47:50,016 Speaker 2: Fifty is good. 1194 00:47:50,176 --> 00:47:51,856 Speaker 6: Pat's making five hundred over ten. 1195 00:47:52,776 --> 00:47:56,176 Speaker 2: Yeah. But yeah, he doesn't get hit, true, he just 1196 00:47:56,216 --> 00:47:56,616 Speaker 2: has to. 1197 00:47:56,616 --> 00:48:00,016 Speaker 6: Hit and it's guaranteed that dude could break his leg 1198 00:48:00,056 --> 00:48:00,696 Speaker 6: tomorrow and. 1199 00:48:00,656 --> 00:48:01,576 Speaker 2: Make That's what I'm saying. 1200 00:48:01,616 --> 00:48:03,216 Speaker 6: Three quarters of a billion dollars. 1201 00:48:03,096 --> 00:48:21,056 Speaker 4: Wild and the difference is so to think about baseball 1202 00:48:21,496 --> 00:48:23,896 Speaker 4: and this is the strong and I love baseball and 1203 00:48:24,016 --> 00:48:26,016 Speaker 4: grew up, but I don't love it as much because 1204 00:48:26,016 --> 00:48:28,256 Speaker 4: it's not as fun. There aren't as many stars, it 1205 00:48:28,296 --> 00:48:31,976 Speaker 4: doesn't have the room. But think of just go, yeah, 1206 00:48:31,976 --> 00:48:34,576 Speaker 4: he's a big star. Let's go the biggest Starlet's watch. 1207 00:48:36,056 --> 00:48:38,616 Speaker 4: Let's say you're watching baseball, though you only see Otani 1208 00:48:38,736 --> 00:48:40,296 Speaker 4: bat one out of every nine times. 1209 00:48:40,616 --> 00:48:43,216 Speaker 2: He doesn't even play the field. But even imagine plays 1210 00:48:43,216 --> 00:48:43,616 Speaker 2: the field. 1211 00:48:43,816 --> 00:48:46,656 Speaker 4: He may make four or five plays a game, so 1212 00:48:46,696 --> 00:48:49,576 Speaker 4: you're seeing him a total of like six minutes a game, 1213 00:48:49,936 --> 00:48:51,416 Speaker 4: the biggest star in baseball. 1214 00:48:51,696 --> 00:48:55,335 Speaker 2: So and again, how is the He's coming back this year? Guys, 1215 00:48:55,336 --> 00:48:58,576 Speaker 2: he'll be on the mountain this year. If you yes, 1216 00:48:58,736 --> 00:48:59,976 Speaker 2: I mean that's what makes. 1217 00:48:59,776 --> 00:49:02,656 Speaker 1: Him Baseball football different. 1218 00:49:02,656 --> 00:49:03,256 Speaker 2: You're the quarterback. 1219 00:49:03,296 --> 00:49:05,776 Speaker 4: You're and I'm just like a marketing and amount of 1220 00:49:05,776 --> 00:49:08,855 Speaker 4: being of being seen quarterback. You're seen all the time. 1221 00:49:09,136 --> 00:49:10,976 Speaker 4: So when you compare my homes, you're like, but he 1222 00:49:11,056 --> 00:49:15,456 Speaker 4: makes it. But he is on camera at least sixty 1223 00:49:15,456 --> 00:49:18,056 Speaker 4: five percent of the entire broad in telecast. Right, yeah, 1224 00:49:18,296 --> 00:49:20,256 Speaker 4: so and sodo is not so true. 1225 00:49:20,456 --> 00:49:22,656 Speaker 1: He comes about one of nine times gets a ball 1226 00:49:22,696 --> 00:49:23,376 Speaker 1: hit to him occasion. 1227 00:49:23,536 --> 00:49:26,656 Speaker 2: Are they even on network television anymore? Once a week 1228 00:49:26,696 --> 00:49:27,136 Speaker 2: on Apple? 1229 00:49:27,256 --> 00:49:29,896 Speaker 4: It's like the hard broadcast to find All right, we 1230 00:49:29,936 --> 00:49:32,296 Speaker 4: have one question each and we'll wrap this up. 1231 00:49:32,696 --> 00:49:33,496 Speaker 2: I'll go first. 1232 00:49:33,856 --> 00:49:36,616 Speaker 4: You ever have to hide an injury while you play 1233 00:49:36,616 --> 00:49:37,776 Speaker 4: so they don't take advantage of it. 1234 00:49:39,256 --> 00:49:42,336 Speaker 3: Not so they won't take advantage of it, so you 1235 00:49:42,376 --> 00:49:44,256 Speaker 3: don't get a non football related injury. 1236 00:49:44,256 --> 00:49:46,976 Speaker 6: I tore my peck. Most of my injuries came from 1237 00:49:47,296 --> 00:49:48,056 Speaker 6: doing dumb stuff. 1238 00:49:48,096 --> 00:49:49,176 Speaker 2: Oh you didn't want the team to know. 1239 00:49:49,376 --> 00:49:51,176 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so I tore my peck. My right it's 1240 00:49:51,176 --> 00:49:53,856 Speaker 3: still torn. I never fixed it. I tore my right 1241 00:49:53,936 --> 00:49:58,976 Speaker 3: peck wakeboarding, and I was literally just like a couple 1242 00:49:59,016 --> 00:50:02,696 Speaker 3: of weeks before OTA's started and I was out wakeboarding 1243 00:50:02,776 --> 00:50:05,176 Speaker 3: screwing around dragging my arm in the water, and it caught. 1244 00:50:05,456 --> 00:50:07,336 Speaker 6: I just freaking ripped it. 1245 00:50:07,936 --> 00:50:10,456 Speaker 3: So I was like, oh dude, my whole arm was 1246 00:50:10,616 --> 00:50:13,536 Speaker 3: just beat just purple from my chest down to my arm. 1247 00:50:14,016 --> 00:50:16,776 Speaker 3: And so I iced it for like ten days, got it, 1248 00:50:16,936 --> 00:50:19,296 Speaker 3: got got through tas, and I never do anything. So 1249 00:50:19,296 --> 00:50:22,576 Speaker 3: they probably wondered why why Jersey It was bad as 1250 00:50:22,656 --> 00:50:25,096 Speaker 3: a mini camp actually, so I put my put my 1251 00:50:25,096 --> 00:50:27,976 Speaker 3: shoulder harness on because I had an acy joint issue before. 1252 00:50:28,416 --> 00:50:30,096 Speaker 6: So I went out there, came back in after practice. 1253 00:50:30,096 --> 00:50:32,736 Speaker 6: I was like, ah, show you know. I think I 1254 00:50:32,776 --> 00:50:33,296 Speaker 6: tweaked my. 1255 00:50:33,256 --> 00:50:37,856 Speaker 2: Pack a little bit. Man. He was like, document was like, 1256 00:50:39,176 --> 00:50:39,696 Speaker 2: tweaked it. 1257 00:50:39,696 --> 00:50:41,696 Speaker 3: He's like, your peck is completely torn. I was like, 1258 00:50:42,616 --> 00:50:44,376 Speaker 3: so what what is that? What are we doing here? 1259 00:50:44,376 --> 00:50:47,216 Speaker 3: And he's like surgery is only cosmetic, Like what's your 1260 00:50:47,256 --> 00:50:49,696 Speaker 3: pain tolerance? Can you operate? I played the right side, 1261 00:50:49,696 --> 00:50:51,096 Speaker 3: so I went in my left side of the body. 1262 00:50:51,456 --> 00:50:53,776 Speaker 3: I was like, well, I'm good. How did you do it? 1263 00:50:53,776 --> 00:50:57,176 Speaker 2: I was like, clearly, I was like other day, but 1264 00:50:58,976 --> 00:51:00,776 Speaker 2: this happened. Oh. 1265 00:51:01,176 --> 00:51:04,136 Speaker 6: The other one was deer hunting. I fell. I was, 1266 00:51:04,216 --> 00:51:05,056 Speaker 6: I was Kansas City. 1267 00:51:05,376 --> 00:51:07,336 Speaker 3: I still have the scar on my even rookie, You're 1268 00:51:07,336 --> 00:51:11,136 Speaker 3: sitting here and we get ready to play uh Indianapolis 1269 00:51:11,976 --> 00:51:14,536 Speaker 3: and I was out. I shot too deer and uh 1270 00:51:15,696 --> 00:51:18,216 Speaker 3: I did I SHO had three tags? I shot three. 1271 00:51:18,216 --> 00:51:19,696 Speaker 3: I didn't want to say. I felt like three was 1272 00:51:19,736 --> 00:51:22,096 Speaker 3: like three was like O noxious to say. But anyways, 1273 00:51:22,216 --> 00:51:23,736 Speaker 3: I felt all my tags, let's put it that way. 1274 00:51:24,056 --> 00:51:27,496 Speaker 3: So I'm dragging them back and are on the other side. 1275 00:51:27,496 --> 00:51:28,256 Speaker 3: Of the barber our fence. 1276 00:51:28,336 --> 00:51:28,976 Speaker 6: I come over. 1277 00:51:29,176 --> 00:51:31,856 Speaker 3: As I'm climbing over the fence, the little d ring 1278 00:51:31,896 --> 00:51:34,096 Speaker 3: on the barber on the on the post snaps right, 1279 00:51:34,296 --> 00:51:37,496 Speaker 3: and I got a barb stuck into my uh nether regions, 1280 00:51:37,576 --> 00:51:40,456 Speaker 3: so to speak, right into my I'm like, oh, crap 1281 00:51:40,496 --> 00:51:41,736 Speaker 3: in my fermal artery, right, So. 1282 00:51:41,936 --> 00:51:44,816 Speaker 2: How do you blame that on? Mini? Can no come 1283 00:51:44,856 --> 00:51:45,456 Speaker 2: up with something? 1284 00:51:46,016 --> 00:51:48,096 Speaker 3: I get the bar about right, I get these deer 1285 00:51:48,136 --> 00:51:51,376 Speaker 3: processed and everything, and I get my buddy and I'm. 1286 00:51:51,296 --> 00:51:52,896 Speaker 2: Like, I'm like, man, I'm like covered in blood. 1287 00:51:52,896 --> 00:51:54,656 Speaker 6: I don't know the world is blood's coming from deer? 1288 00:51:54,736 --> 00:51:56,336 Speaker 6: And that was that big of a deal. And I 1289 00:51:56,376 --> 00:51:59,896 Speaker 6: looked down at my hand is completely filayed back, I'll 1290 00:51:59,896 --> 00:52:01,096 Speaker 6: see the tendons of my thumb. 1291 00:52:01,696 --> 00:52:03,336 Speaker 3: So I called my buddy was farm I want I'm like, 1292 00:52:03,456 --> 00:52:04,696 Speaker 3: I gotta get to a doctor, like. 1293 00:52:04,936 --> 00:52:07,656 Speaker 2: Low key sorry, no, no, Joey, I think you took 1294 00:52:07,696 --> 00:52:10,296 Speaker 2: me to the vet, all right, it took me. 1295 00:52:10,816 --> 00:52:13,896 Speaker 3: I was a small town of freaking Kansas city or 1296 00:52:13,976 --> 00:52:16,496 Speaker 3: up and sorry up in northern Kansas or up northern 1297 00:52:16,496 --> 00:52:18,136 Speaker 3: Missouri like Gallas of Missouri area. 1298 00:52:18,696 --> 00:52:19,776 Speaker 6: And I'm in a small. 1299 00:52:19,536 --> 00:52:22,136 Speaker 3: Town getting in there washing out and give me some 1300 00:52:22,216 --> 00:52:24,696 Speaker 3: pills because I got deer blood just mixed with my blood. 1301 00:52:24,736 --> 00:52:26,336 Speaker 3: And it was like, here, take this so you don't 1302 00:52:26,376 --> 00:52:28,896 Speaker 3: get limes and seas. I'm all right, stitch me. I 1303 00:52:29,016 --> 00:52:30,776 Speaker 3: think I had like thirty five or twenty five stitching 1304 00:52:30,856 --> 00:52:32,576 Speaker 3: or something like that, and I might So. 1305 00:52:32,616 --> 00:52:34,696 Speaker 6: I go into the U, go into the training room. 1306 00:52:34,696 --> 00:52:36,336 Speaker 6: Next day, I'm like hey, but I was like, I 1307 00:52:36,376 --> 00:52:38,656 Speaker 6: need a I need a pad for my hand. 1308 00:52:39,776 --> 00:52:39,976 Speaker 2: Why. 1309 00:52:40,256 --> 00:52:43,296 Speaker 3: He was like why as the end of my truck 1310 00:52:43,376 --> 00:52:45,256 Speaker 3: last night, I slept on the running boards and uh 1311 00:52:45,656 --> 00:52:48,936 Speaker 3: went to grab the door, sliced my hand open, just 1312 00:52:48,936 --> 00:52:53,016 Speaker 3: went down to hear the carriage stitching up, like that's 1313 00:52:53,056 --> 00:52:54,856 Speaker 3: not min I just looked at me and he was 1314 00:52:54,896 --> 00:52:55,816 Speaker 3: like that story going with. 1315 00:52:56,296 --> 00:53:00,856 Speaker 2: I said, well, I'm going you see my contract. There's 1316 00:53:00,856 --> 00:53:01,656 Speaker 2: a lot of red. 1317 00:53:02,176 --> 00:53:05,376 Speaker 3: Pad right there, just too uh and I'm four backs 1318 00:53:05,456 --> 00:53:06,176 Speaker 3: the balls that game? 1319 00:53:06,256 --> 00:53:07,296 Speaker 2: What the hell? 1320 00:53:06,936 --> 00:53:06,976 Speaker 3: That? 1321 00:53:09,216 --> 00:53:09,576 Speaker 2: So? Yeah? 1322 00:53:09,696 --> 00:53:11,656 Speaker 6: Nothing never to hide, you know. I felt like if 1323 00:53:11,656 --> 00:53:13,976 Speaker 6: I'm on the if I'm on the field, like I'm 1324 00:53:14,056 --> 00:53:14,496 Speaker 6: able to play. 1325 00:53:14,696 --> 00:53:19,096 Speaker 3: I played through torn MCL's a C joints, broken foot. 1326 00:53:19,096 --> 00:53:21,336 Speaker 6: I played the Super Roll with a broken foot, busted 1327 00:53:21,416 --> 00:53:24,776 Speaker 6: L five in my back. I was fine, so kind kind. 1328 00:53:24,656 --> 00:53:25,416 Speaker 2: Of way it is. 1329 00:53:25,456 --> 00:53:27,616 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think I've had anything where I'm jumping 1330 00:53:27,616 --> 00:53:30,296 Speaker 5: over Barbara fences or doing anything like that. 1331 00:53:30,576 --> 00:53:33,656 Speaker 2: I mean hiding injury. The only time is when I. 1332 00:53:33,576 --> 00:53:35,656 Speaker 5: Thought I was going into a contract here and I 1333 00:53:35,736 --> 00:53:38,536 Speaker 5: knew that it was gonna like I sublux my kneecap 1334 00:53:38,896 --> 00:53:41,256 Speaker 5: coming from the Patriots and my knee was super swollen. 1335 00:53:41,296 --> 00:53:43,096 Speaker 2: But I knew I got traded to Kansas City. 1336 00:53:43,496 --> 00:53:47,736 Speaker 5: Hey, speaking of pay day, I'm going yes, So so 1337 00:53:47,816 --> 00:53:49,976 Speaker 5: I was like, gosh, I mean this thing was swollen 1338 00:53:50,016 --> 00:53:52,016 Speaker 5: like this, I'm supposed to go there that week, and 1339 00:53:52,096 --> 00:53:54,416 Speaker 5: I was like I was icing it, taking all the 1340 00:53:54,456 --> 00:53:57,176 Speaker 5: anti inflammatories, doing all that stuff. And I get in 1341 00:53:57,216 --> 00:53:59,176 Speaker 5: and they take, you know, all the X rays and 1342 00:53:59,176 --> 00:54:01,456 Speaker 5: the MRIs to make sure that you're healthy enough. 1343 00:54:01,656 --> 00:54:03,856 Speaker 2: Like well, your knee, there's something going on with your 1344 00:54:03,936 --> 00:54:06,096 Speaker 2: knee hair. I was like, no, I feel good, right, like. 1345 00:54:08,376 --> 00:54:12,096 Speaker 5: Obviously no, Seriously, They're like, yeah, it's pretty messed up, 1346 00:54:12,176 --> 00:54:14,776 Speaker 5: like they might need to do something to it. And 1347 00:54:14,816 --> 00:54:17,376 Speaker 5: I was like, no, I'm good, Seriously, I feel great. 1348 00:54:17,416 --> 00:54:20,856 Speaker 5: I played the later, yeah, and I passed the physical 1349 00:54:20,936 --> 00:54:22,776 Speaker 5: somehow some way, and like we're good. 1350 00:54:22,816 --> 00:54:25,136 Speaker 2: To go. I was like, yes, let's go. 1351 00:54:25,256 --> 00:54:28,456 Speaker 5: But it's a scary thought because especially when it's going 1352 00:54:28,536 --> 00:54:32,736 Speaker 5: to impact you. You're set up to go, you know, financially, 1353 00:54:32,776 --> 00:54:35,416 Speaker 5: make your pay day or whatever you might do, or 1354 00:54:35,456 --> 00:54:37,336 Speaker 5: even make the team next year. Because you get hurt 1355 00:54:37,376 --> 00:54:39,656 Speaker 5: and you go into an offseason, you've got an injury 1356 00:54:39,656 --> 00:54:41,776 Speaker 5: that is going to be long lasting. 1357 00:54:42,136 --> 00:54:44,096 Speaker 2: You don't want to go and have surgery. Like I 1358 00:54:44,136 --> 00:54:46,616 Speaker 2: tore my bicep. Tended. There's a hole right there. 1359 00:54:46,616 --> 00:54:50,176 Speaker 5: I know it looks swooll, but it's actually the bicep 1360 00:54:50,216 --> 00:54:52,496 Speaker 5: rolled down in there, and they said you can reattach it. 1361 00:54:52,536 --> 00:54:54,456 Speaker 5: I was like, how long is that gonna take? Like 1362 00:54:55,256 --> 00:54:57,856 Speaker 5: four or five months? I was like, no chance. They're like, 1363 00:54:57,936 --> 00:54:59,616 Speaker 5: do I need it? They're like, no, you just might 1364 00:54:59,696 --> 00:55:01,616 Speaker 5: use it, lose a little bit of velocity early on 1365 00:55:01,696 --> 00:55:03,336 Speaker 5: and all that stuff. And I was like, fine, not 1366 00:55:03,376 --> 00:55:05,936 Speaker 5: gonna worry about it, because when you're I'm not playing. 1367 00:55:05,976 --> 00:55:07,536 Speaker 5: Brady once said it, He's like, you never want to 1368 00:55:07,536 --> 00:55:10,016 Speaker 5: see somebody else doing your job because if somebody else 1369 00:55:10,016 --> 00:55:12,296 Speaker 5: steps in and plays, and this is the same general 1370 00:55:12,376 --> 00:55:14,576 Speaker 5: conversation and they play and they do really well, they 1371 00:55:14,616 --> 00:55:15,376 Speaker 5: might have your job. 1372 00:55:15,896 --> 00:55:16,416 Speaker 2: Wally pip. 1373 00:55:16,456 --> 00:55:19,456 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the legendary Wally right. Yeah, lost his 1374 00:55:19,536 --> 00:55:20,496 Speaker 1: job because he got hurt. 1375 00:55:20,496 --> 00:55:22,136 Speaker 3: Will they say, no one loses their job to injury. 1376 00:55:22,256 --> 00:55:27,296 Speaker 3: That's unless you drew bloodsone. That's true, so true, I 1377 00:55:27,296 --> 00:55:28,456 Speaker 3: mean that's not I mean, it is. 1378 00:55:28,456 --> 00:55:28,936 Speaker 6: True that way. 1379 00:55:29,096 --> 00:55:31,696 Speaker 3: I you know, I think most most great players feel 1380 00:55:31,736 --> 00:55:33,256 Speaker 3: like or even competitive players. 1381 00:55:33,416 --> 00:55:36,616 Speaker 6: Guys that are on the field feel like, if I'm seventy. 1382 00:55:36,296 --> 00:55:38,416 Speaker 3: Percent, I'm going I'm better than the guy you know 1383 00:55:38,456 --> 00:55:40,136 Speaker 3: behind me, and this is a distract the guy behind me. 1384 00:55:40,176 --> 00:55:41,896 Speaker 3: You just feel, that's just minds that you have to have. 1385 00:55:42,016 --> 00:55:45,816 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, and then if we have injury reports. 1386 00:55:45,536 --> 00:55:47,136 Speaker 6: Too, so it's not like you can really hide injuries 1387 00:55:47,336 --> 00:55:48,656 Speaker 6: because you get caught hiding an injury. 1388 00:55:48,656 --> 00:55:48,776 Speaker 2: EI. 1389 00:55:48,776 --> 00:55:50,336 Speaker 6: There's draft picks, you know, there's all sorts. 1390 00:55:50,176 --> 00:55:52,656 Speaker 3: Of punishment, you know, yeah, things Now they actually throw 1391 00:55:52,656 --> 00:55:54,216 Speaker 3: people on injury reports that don't even hurt. 1392 00:55:54,336 --> 00:55:56,976 Speaker 2: Right, They'll check you to put everybody on it. Brady 1393 00:55:57,056 --> 00:55:59,216 Speaker 2: was on it. Brady was on it for like ten 1394 00:55:59,336 --> 00:56:02,136 Speaker 2: years straight with his shoulder. You have a shoulder issue. 1395 00:56:04,056 --> 00:56:07,216 Speaker 2: We have only created a segment earlier, we didn't know. 1396 00:56:07,256 --> 00:56:10,336 Speaker 4: We call it the uh the text flex were he 1397 00:56:10,416 --> 00:56:12,296 Speaker 4: was gonna text Coach Belichick rafter here and be like 1398 00:56:12,336 --> 00:56:13,696 Speaker 4: congrats on the North Carolina job. 1399 00:56:13,976 --> 00:56:15,456 Speaker 2: And so I decided to flex a text. 1400 00:56:15,656 --> 00:56:17,576 Speaker 4: Dan Landing to text me today from Oregon, which I 1401 00:56:17,576 --> 00:56:20,216 Speaker 4: was like, off flesh break, So flex a text. Who's 1402 00:56:20,216 --> 00:56:21,736 Speaker 4: somebody you got a text from recently that we think 1403 00:56:21,776 --> 00:56:22,496 Speaker 4: would be super cool? 1404 00:56:24,016 --> 00:56:27,456 Speaker 2: Nobody? Now come on, you got I don't. 1405 00:56:27,456 --> 00:56:28,896 Speaker 6: I don't hang out in those circles. 1406 00:56:29,016 --> 00:56:31,576 Speaker 4: I don't hang out with Landing out he's in an Oregon, Yeah, 1407 00:56:33,016 --> 00:56:33,776 Speaker 4: just to say what up? 1408 00:56:33,896 --> 00:56:39,936 Speaker 2: Just to be like, yeah, that's uh, you need to 1409 00:56:39,936 --> 00:56:42,416 Speaker 2: get out of your little bubble, you know what you know? 1410 00:56:44,216 --> 00:56:44,296 Speaker 4: Uh? 1411 00:56:44,496 --> 00:56:46,736 Speaker 6: Kid Rock's brother texted me the other day to say, 1412 00:56:47,696 --> 00:56:48,856 Speaker 6: you know, he was watching. 1413 00:56:53,456 --> 00:56:57,536 Speaker 3: Bob's brother Billy text me, honestly, I don't hang out 1414 00:56:57,576 --> 00:56:58,216 Speaker 3: in those circles. 1415 00:56:58,696 --> 00:57:00,256 Speaker 2: Well, how about how about we don't hang out with 1416 00:57:00,456 --> 00:57:01,136 Speaker 2: the people either. 1417 00:57:01,176 --> 00:57:04,256 Speaker 4: It's just like it was cool that did send you 1418 00:57:04,256 --> 00:57:06,456 Speaker 4: a text at all in the past A couple of weeks, 1419 00:57:06,576 --> 00:57:11,416 Speaker 4: A couple of weeks, let's go month, year, year, career. 1420 00:57:11,416 --> 00:57:15,936 Speaker 6: No, so well last month or two, I guess Dan Smiers. 1421 00:57:15,696 --> 00:57:16,536 Speaker 2: Okay, that's good. 1422 00:57:16,616 --> 00:57:17,456 Speaker 6: Yeah, just because that's you. 1423 00:57:17,456 --> 00:57:20,016 Speaker 1: Guys will know that's that's not to say what's up just. 1424 00:57:19,896 --> 00:57:22,696 Speaker 6: Because they's my old neighbors. 1425 00:57:23,856 --> 00:57:24,856 Speaker 2: Yeah, check it out. 1426 00:57:25,416 --> 00:57:29,976 Speaker 3: So that they were coming over, I haven't talked to you, 1427 00:57:30,016 --> 00:57:31,496 Speaker 3: like six months of coming over about it. 1428 00:57:31,576 --> 00:57:34,456 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, perfect, we appreciate you coming on. 1429 00:57:34,656 --> 00:57:35,496 Speaker 6: Oh my pleasure. 1430 00:57:35,736 --> 00:57:37,936 Speaker 2: Yeah. This was actually brought Matt's tex. Matt was like, hey, 1431 00:57:37,976 --> 00:57:41,896 Speaker 2: you want to do the podcast with me about right there? Yeah? Boy? 1432 00:57:42,056 --> 00:57:43,936 Speaker 3: Yeah, And then I get to meet Bobby BoA's on 1433 00:57:43,936 --> 00:57:45,016 Speaker 3: the radio all the time. 1434 00:57:45,056 --> 00:57:47,416 Speaker 4: You know, we have mutual friends that love you. They're like, 1435 00:57:47,536 --> 00:57:51,136 Speaker 4: Jared is the best. So they lie Ali, but they 1436 00:57:51,136 --> 00:57:54,776 Speaker 4: weren't the time. They they're right on. So we really 1437 00:57:54,816 --> 00:57:57,816 Speaker 4: appreciate you coming by. And I won't even say it again, 1438 00:57:57,856 --> 00:57:59,336 Speaker 4: but I felt a little weird, and I don't want 1439 00:57:59,336 --> 00:58:00,776 Speaker 4: this to be weird as you walk out. But as 1440 00:58:00,776 --> 00:58:03,376 Speaker 4: you walk past the door, I was the youngest member 1441 00:58:03,376 --> 00:58:04,496 Speaker 4: ever in the Radio Hall of Fame. 1442 00:58:04,536 --> 00:58:05,056 Speaker 2: You'll see that up there. 1443 00:58:05,056 --> 00:58:06,496 Speaker 4: I don't want you to take that and like feel 1444 00:58:06,496 --> 00:58:07,976 Speaker 4: that as you walk. It's right, it's a big picture, 1445 00:58:08,056 --> 00:58:10,616 Speaker 4: says Hall of that's right, youngest person ever in it. 1446 00:58:10,576 --> 00:58:12,096 Speaker 2: But it's not. I don't want you to feel anything 1447 00:58:12,096 --> 00:58:12,456 Speaker 2: about it. 1448 00:58:12,496 --> 00:58:14,176 Speaker 3: I won't see that's that should be the flex Like, 1449 00:58:14,216 --> 00:58:17,016 Speaker 3: how do I how do I set down my guests 1450 00:58:17,656 --> 00:58:19,136 Speaker 3: and make them have an accomplishment? 1451 00:58:20,456 --> 00:58:22,376 Speaker 2: Send me to pet for you, That's what I'm saying. 1452 00:58:22,376 --> 00:58:23,856 Speaker 2: I was shooting for the oldest guy. 1453 00:58:24,056 --> 00:58:27,576 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, right, I will lobby those folks like they 1454 00:58:27,576 --> 00:58:28,496 Speaker 4: have never been lobbying. 1455 00:58:28,736 --> 00:58:37,456 Speaker 3: And next up, fifteen times finalist, all right, walking in like, hey, 1456 00:58:37,496 --> 00:58:38,216 Speaker 3: thank you. 1457 00:58:38,256 --> 00:58:38,776 Speaker 2: There's some of that. 1458 00:58:38,936 --> 00:58:40,176 Speaker 3: But I mean there are some of those guys that 1459 00:58:40,216 --> 00:58:43,096 Speaker 3: switch over to the legend side. That's why I'm like, 1460 00:58:43,336 --> 00:58:45,016 Speaker 3: I like the way the baseball. This last thing I'll 1461 00:58:45,016 --> 00:58:46,576 Speaker 3: say about the last I like the way the baseball 1462 00:58:46,616 --> 00:58:49,176 Speaker 3: does it because I think, to me, it's very transparent. 1463 00:58:49,656 --> 00:58:51,856 Speaker 3: You're on there, they'll hake as many players, and you 1464 00:58:51,856 --> 00:58:52,976 Speaker 3: get seventy percent of the vote. 1465 00:58:53,016 --> 00:58:53,576 Speaker 2: You should get in. 1466 00:58:53,856 --> 00:58:55,296 Speaker 3: You can have one hundred in the class, you can 1467 00:58:55,336 --> 00:58:57,176 Speaker 3: have none in the class. Right, it's just there. 1468 00:58:57,176 --> 00:58:57,496 Speaker 6: It is. 1469 00:58:57,656 --> 00:58:59,056 Speaker 2: You need a percentage of the vote. 1470 00:58:59,096 --> 00:58:59,336 Speaker 6: Yep. 1471 00:58:59,616 --> 00:59:02,856 Speaker 4: And that's riders. I mean, riders are pretty dumb now. 1472 00:59:02,896 --> 00:59:05,856 Speaker 4: But I do like how I like the voter of 1473 00:59:05,896 --> 00:59:08,856 Speaker 4: the NFL Hall of Fame better generally speaking than I 1474 00:59:08,936 --> 00:59:11,416 Speaker 4: do the baseball. Yeah, because baseball you can just like 1475 00:59:11,416 --> 00:59:13,416 Speaker 4: Barry Boscas doesn't mean to you once as a writer 1476 00:59:13,536 --> 00:59:15,376 Speaker 4: and you're like, I'm never writing around Yeah, I mean 1477 00:59:15,416 --> 00:59:16,976 Speaker 4: literally so, but I agree. 1478 00:59:17,056 --> 00:59:18,416 Speaker 2: I think that should be like that. 1479 00:59:18,416 --> 00:59:20,376 Speaker 6: There's still a lot of rioters for the NFL, but 1480 00:59:20,416 --> 00:59:20,896 Speaker 6: it's not all. 1481 00:59:21,016 --> 00:59:22,776 Speaker 3: No, it's not all. I do wish there was, and 1482 00:59:22,776 --> 00:59:24,376 Speaker 3: I know there's a couple like Hall of Fame. I 1483 00:59:24,576 --> 00:59:27,256 Speaker 3: wish they kind of would would segment it like you know, 1484 00:59:27,296 --> 00:59:29,296 Speaker 3: have like a you have a writer's vote, but you 1485 00:59:29,376 --> 00:59:31,296 Speaker 3: have you should have a coaches and GM vote, right, 1486 00:59:31,496 --> 00:59:33,376 Speaker 3: and then I think the people in the Hall should 1487 00:59:33,416 --> 00:59:34,776 Speaker 3: have a say. It doesn't have it doesn't have to 1488 00:59:34,776 --> 00:59:37,976 Speaker 3: weigh the same thing. But most of the time players 1489 00:59:38,016 --> 00:59:40,736 Speaker 3: know who players are. Coaches and those guys know, like 1490 00:59:40,776 --> 00:59:42,656 Speaker 3: you said, riders can get pissy over you know, they 1491 00:59:43,056 --> 00:59:44,056 Speaker 3: take a to situation. 1492 00:59:44,536 --> 00:59:45,936 Speaker 6: I don't care how big of a prick t O 1493 00:59:46,136 --> 00:59:47,296 Speaker 6: is or was whatever. 1494 00:59:47,496 --> 00:59:48,216 Speaker 2: I don't know. The guy. 1495 00:59:49,896 --> 00:59:52,976 Speaker 6: Dude was a monster on the fields. All that matters. 1496 00:59:53,056 --> 00:59:55,336 Speaker 6: He should have been the whole thame years before he was. 1497 00:59:55,696 --> 00:59:56,936 Speaker 2: I appreciate you, buddy, thank you for coming. 1498 00:59:57,016 --> 01:00:02,936 Speaker 1: By God, And that's a rat for our third episode ever. 1499 01:00:02,976 --> 01:00:03,656 Speaker 2: In the whole wide world. 1500 01:00:03,736 --> 01:00:06,736 Speaker 4: Thank you guys so much for listening. 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