1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Welcome in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton show. I appreciate all 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. It is the Wednesday 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: before the official start of March Madness. I'll give you 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of a teaser here. I am going 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: to be trying to follow the scores on Thursday and 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: Friday of all the games that are going to be 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 1: going on. Buck is going to have no idea, but 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: he has got his bracket done. I will finish my 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: bracket today and it will be posted at Clay and 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: Buck and there is a fabulous steak dinner on the 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: line between which of us will be better at picking games? 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 2: Putting my money where my mouth is on this one. 13 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 2: My bracketology may surprise some. 14 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: Of you very much. So, okay, we got a lot 15 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: that's going on happening in real time here. Trump has 16 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: just completed a phone call with Zolensky. He talked to 17 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: Putin yesterday and he just put out a message saying 18 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: there will be more details on his hour long phone 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: call that will soon be up. As we certainly are 20 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: hoping that we're going to get a ceasefire and working 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: towards peace in Europe. We will update you on exactly 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: what happened there positive news SpaceX Elon Musk brought back 23 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: our two astronauts that had been stranded for eight months. 24 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: I don't know that we've talked about this, Buck, I 25 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: don't know how you think you would do with this. 26 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 1: I would lose my mind. There are a few things 27 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: that I could not do. I could not get and 28 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: I bet we have a bunch of guys and gals 29 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: who have done this. I could not get on a 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: submarine and go under the water for like six months. 31 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: I would go completely bonkers and insane. 32 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 2: They have to do to psychological testing because of that, 33 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: and obviously people think they're not claustrophobic until they're put 34 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: in a situation where claustrophobia is a real problem. 35 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: I would lose it. I mean, if you told me, hey, 36 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: you're going to go underwater for a couple of hours, 37 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: I think I could do it. If you told me 38 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: for months, I would lose my mind. I give credit 39 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: to these astronauts. They thought they were going to space 40 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: for eight days and instead they ended up in space 41 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: for eight months. Whatever you do. Can you imagine if 42 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: you thought you were going somewhere for eight days and 43 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: you had to stay for eight months. I think even 44 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: on Earth many people would lose it over a situation 45 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: such as that. The fact that we have to rely 46 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: on Elon Musk to save our astronauts because he's better 47 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: at sending people to space now and sending rocket ships 48 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: to space than NASA is both an incredible endorsement of 49 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: Elon and an absolute indictment of our federal tax dollars 50 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: and what they have done. He caught up with NASA 51 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: after they had roughly a seventy year head start on him, 52 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: and he's now better at that. If you hate Elon 53 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're a loser. Yeah. 54 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: I don't know how to put it better than that. 55 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: This guy is incredible, and what he is trying to 56 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: do in the government. It's not like he showed up 57 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: and stuck, you know, stuck himself in the middle of 58 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 2: the abortion debate or or even the climate change debate, 59 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: because he's actually pretty pro climate change movement, right right. 60 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: He's just trying to help fix the government, which is 61 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: a mess, and he's the best CEO on the planet, 62 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: and he's better, as you've said, sending rockets than NASA 63 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: or any sovereign government on the planet keeping him. He's 64 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 2: better than China, he's better than Russia. And people are 65 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: burning Tesla's in protest. This has really been catching up. 66 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: This is there's more and more of this. 67 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: Let us talk about this, because I thought we were gonna 68 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: talk about something else, but but I'm really fired up 69 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: about this too. And I know you talked about it 70 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: with yesterday with Will Caine. I was just on Fox 71 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: News talking about it. You sent me because I I 72 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: don't know, I'm not we talked about yesterday. You and 73 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: I are not car guys, right, there are people out 74 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: there that are. So we are catching some flat for this. 75 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: By the way, apparently you and I like to get 76 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: our hair done in the back seat, maybe get our 77 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: nails filed. You. 78 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I'm not a car guy. But I 79 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: went downstairs yesterday after you sent me the Tesla Suv 80 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: prices or whatever you texted to me, and I went 81 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: down and talked to my wife because she's got a 82 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: big Escalade suv as many moms do. Because we've got 83 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: three boys that take up a lot of space and 84 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: all their gear and all their friends and everything else. 85 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: So but that car has been it's got over one 86 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: hundred thousand miles on it. So we've been talking about 87 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: getting a new car. One of our boys going to 88 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: go off to college next year, so we've got, you know, 89 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: some life changes going on. And I said, have you 90 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: thought about this Tesla a SUV? And so we're going 91 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: to go look at the Tesla as UV and I'm 92 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: inclined to buy a Tesla. Buck, fortunate to have the 93 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: means to be able to buy a car not have 94 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: to worry about the cost side. I understand that is 95 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: not true forever. 96 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: Can we just throw out there you can get incredible 97 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: deals on Tesla's right now, That's. 98 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: What you told me, Like, I was kind of blown 99 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: away by how affordable they are. But I want to 100 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: send a men message that is the opposite of the 101 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to key this vehicle. I'm going to light 102 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: it on fire, the domestic terrorism that we are seeing everywhere. 103 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: Whatever you think about Elon to your point, Buck, he's 104 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: trying to save every taxpayer money by locating and eliminating 105 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: waste and fraud in our federal government. Everyone, this just 106 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: hit you and I knew this, but the Twitter X 107 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: stock is now back to the same price that Elon 108 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: bought it at for both debt purposes and also individual 109 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: shareholder investments. The SpaceX is worth hundreds of billions of dollars. 110 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: He's Tesla stock is being attacked, and we'll play some 111 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: audio with you for you of that, which I think, 112 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: frankly is despicable. It's one of the most successful American 113 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: corporations in the history of the world. I don't know 114 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: why you would be trying to destroy it when it 115 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: is like if you're a climate change zealot, which all 116 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: these people claim to be, there's i'r reually no one 117 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: who's done more to try to fight the impact of 118 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: gas powered vehicles than Elon in the history of the world. 119 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: And so all of this is crazy, and I'm inclined 120 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: Buck to go buy a Tesla to show support for 121 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: Elon across the board and stand up against the fire 122 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: bombings and the terror attacks basically that I believe are 123 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: occurring against Tesla. 124 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 2: Well, this is very important, and we are going to 125 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: talk about the judicial coup here momentarily. Just you know, 126 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: we're very on this plan. I've been going back and 127 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: forth this morning on it. We know what a problem 128 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: this is the biggest challenge Trump faces, but let's finish 129 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: this discussion here about Tessa, because I think this really 130 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: does matter a lot. We used to talk Clay under 131 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: the Biden administration about the parallel economy. Really now we 132 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: should just be talking about the patriotic economy. Yeah, we 133 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: have now major companies, major corporations. I can't list them 134 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: all right now, but you know what they are that 135 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 2: have either been built aligned with freedom and pro American values, 136 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 2: or in some cases have realigned themselves with pro American 137 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: values and freedom. And we all make choices every day. 138 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: And this is not a Crockett coffee ad, but it 139 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: should be, or it could be, because you should. 140 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: I mean, we're putting our money where our mouth is 141 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: on us. We're not just you know, speaking into the 142 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: ether and not having anything. 143 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: And people say, well, why are starting coffee? That's just 144 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: to get the business going. Crockett is going to be 145 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: a bigger business with a whole range of products and things, 146 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: but it's aligned with your values, It supports causes you 147 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: care about. Obviously, Tesla's a you know, a trillion dollar company, 148 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: so it's on a much much bigger scale. The point here, though, 149 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: is I think that we all should remember that we 150 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: used to on the right. And you know, Clay, I've 151 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: been doing this now for fifteen years and talking about 152 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: how we're getting kicked in the face by Google, We're 153 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: getting kicked in the face by Corporate America. We're constantly 154 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: being mistreated by all these companies. Now the shift has happened, 155 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: and now you can all decide every day when you can. 156 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 2: I know it's not always a choice. I know some 157 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: of you are going to come at me for still 158 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: subscribing the Netflix, and I should probably rethink that. But 159 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: when you have the option to support a company that 160 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: supports your values, like car companies, I mean, I'm talking 161 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: about the big ticket items now, not just the everyday consumables. 162 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: Do you step up and do you make the decision 163 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: or not? Now I know some of you don't like 164 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 2: electric cars, That's fine. I'm just saying there are opportunities now. 165 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: Carrie and I are thinking about you know, we've had 166 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: a couple of issues here with the internet in South Florida. 167 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: As you remember some of you saw I went into 168 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: the actually was power, not even electricity or not even internet, 169 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: but I was in the dark during the show. 170 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: Just everything went off here. 171 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: But we thought about getting a starlink, and carry said 172 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: to me, you know what I think is a good 173 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: idea getting a starlink. And I said to her, yeah, 174 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: And I want to support Elon's companies because Elon is 175 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: supporting saving the America that we all want to live in. 176 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: He's not the only one. All the sponsors on this show. 177 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 2: And again, I know this sounds like I'm doing the commercial, 178 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: but it's not. They all stand with your values. So 179 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: every time you buy with them, yeah, you're getting a 180 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: good product. Of course, we have a lot of people 181 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: that want to partner with us, and we just have 182 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: no interest in like we won't take money from certain people. 183 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: We've turned down more business than we've taken overall. The 184 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: point here is we see that there are opportunities to 185 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: align your economic activity with your beliefs in the country 186 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: that you want to live in. And the other side 187 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 2: has known this for a long time, and the other 188 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: side acts out, and that's why they're burning Tesla's like Luna. 189 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 2: And it's not just the burning Tesla's. You have mainstream 190 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: clay like MSNBC to whatever degree that's mainstream anchors who 191 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: are elated that Tesla's stock is down substantially if you 192 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: care about climate change, if you care about the environment, 193 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: if you care about a great American is there a 194 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: car that is more American made than Tesla? 195 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think so. 196 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 2: And so if you care about any of those things, 197 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: why are you praising the By the way, it's a 198 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 2: downturn in the stock. I would never bet against Elon. 199 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say that. But did you see what 200 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: I mean is, yeah, this is a moment of choosing 201 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 2: for everybody. So I don't think and I think to 202 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: your point. By the way, Clay for your you got 203 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: a seventeen year old, right, y'all got a seventeen year 204 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: We're close friends with the neighbors. They've got a seventeen 205 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: year old boy. They just got him at Tesla. He 206 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: loves that car and they love that car. It's super safe, 207 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 2: it's aligned with their values, and it can even drive 208 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: him to school. 209 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: That's what we're thinking about, because any of you who 210 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: have ever been a teenage boy, teenage boys are the 211 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: biggest morons on the planet everyone out there. If you 212 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: raised one, if you have been one at any point 213 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: in time, teenage boys make irrational, stupid decisions. More than 214 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: any I really believe this that are dangerous. Teenage girls 215 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: also do all sorts of stupid things, I'm sure, but 216 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: teenage boys actually do things that are more physically dangerous 217 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: typically than teenage girls. Cars, like, I'm worried about He's 218 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: got a driver's license, but I'm worried about him as 219 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: you worry if you have a teenage driver. Anybody does. 220 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: A Tesla feels like to me, these safest vehicles that 221 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: a young teenage driver could be behind the wheel of. 222 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: And look, I understand, I mean, a car is a 223 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: big purchase decision, but look at what they're doing. And 224 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: your point, I think is a good one, buck, because 225 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: there are some things that are super third rail controversial. 226 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: If Elon was like, Hey, I'm going to tell you 227 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: I believe that we should have partial birth abortions, and 228 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: I'm just going to dive directly into something like that, 229 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: I can't understande that heat, you get that heat, I understand, 230 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: but hey, I'm all he's done is try to eliminate 231 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: wasting fraud in the government. And remember he voted for 232 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: Joe Biden in twenty twenty against Trump. He voted for 233 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen, the idea that this is 234 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: somehow a far right ideologue. He is just doing. He 235 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: has woken up. I really believe this and recognize that 236 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: America is on a perilous path. If we have a 237 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: thirty six trillion dollar deficit. We have to figure out 238 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: a way to balance the federal budget, and if we don't, 239 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: they are going to be incredibly profound consequences for the 240 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: most important country in the world that is this one. 241 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: He is legitimately and truly working day in and down. 242 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: I don't agree with the elan and everything. 243 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 2: To be clear, like there's a lot that I could 244 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: sit here with and say, you know, I don't necessarily 245 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: see it that way. But also he is the greatest 246 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 2: and most most impressive current CEO living at a time 247 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: when companies that he is he has built from effectively nothing, 248 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 2: have changed the world we live in. They are changing. 249 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: There is a space, a space spaced economy now that 250 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: did not exist before. Okay, outer space is now part 251 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: of economic activity in a way that was not. He's 252 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: doing all these things, Clay. What he is trying to accomplish, 253 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: if he is successful, benefits every single American, And I 254 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 2: would argue because of the reverberations of the American economy 255 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: globally really benefits the whole planet. Okay, so these it's 256 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: not just the Manx landing cars on fire. That's the 257 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: you know, that's the left wing vanguard, that's the you know, 258 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: they're lunatics. They've always been lunatics. But the fact that 259 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: the mainstream Democrat party has now turned anti Elon just 260 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: goes to show you they'd rather watch us all burned 261 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: down than allow somebody who likes President Trump to do 262 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 2: great things for all of us. And that's like a psychosis. 263 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: It truly, there's something wrong with these people. If I 264 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: swear to you, if Elon is trying to do this 265 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: for Joe Biden, we'd be sitting here being like, look, 266 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: Biden's an imbecile. I don't like it, you know, But 267 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: what Elon's doing is pretty good, you know what I mean. Like, 268 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, if he was truly trying to cut 269 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: fat and wait, but the Democrats would never allow that. 270 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: That's the truth. I agree. And this is going to be, 271 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: by the way, a story that is going to continue 272 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: to propel as we move forward. And uh, look, I 273 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: think all of you out there we've been saying it 274 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: for a long time. We build businesses based on it. 275 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: You should align your purchasing decisions with things that you 276 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: believe are good for the country. Right, And maybe at 277 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: some point the whole concept of a parallel economy, Buck 278 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: will be unnecessary because every company will just say, hey, 279 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: I want to serve everybody across the entire political spectrum. 280 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: Evenly we're getting a little bit more of that, but 281 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: we're not there yet. And Elon's under attack. And I 282 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: think if you have the ability and the uh and 283 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: the and the opportunity, I would just look at a Tesla. 284 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 2: I really would, Yeah, And they're They're phenomenal in a 285 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: lot of ways. And by the way, we are not 286 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: We are not sponsored by Tesla. Get anybody, I really zero, yes, 287 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: I would take I would take Tesla money from Uncle 288 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: Elon and sell. 289 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: You would be very happy to be Clay and Buck 290 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: brought to you by Tesla. We've never had a car 291 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: Ad on the whole company in four years, so it's 292 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: not like we've been you know, like nobody's come and 293 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: try to buy to buy car Ads that I'm aware of. 294 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: Somebody who's making an amazing product and ideologically aligned that's 295 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: like a lot of our that is our sponsorship base here. 296 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: So speaking of sponsors, let's talk about tax season, Clay, 297 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: this is gonna stick. 298 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: Got to pull together. 299 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: All your stuff, you know what I mean, every speech 300 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: you've give in all the ten ninety nine's, got to 301 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: make sure you go into your VENMO anything over six 302 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 2: hundred dollars. 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I just 329 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: want to set the table here because Clay is about 330 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: to take us onto a deep dive into what I 331 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,239 Speaker 2: think has been rightly called by the President of Al Salvador, 332 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: a judicial coup here in America. That is what it 333 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: feels like. It is madness. These judges are trying to 334 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: on their own. The judiciary is trying to just throw 335 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: rocks and sand in the gears of the Trump administration 336 00:16:54,720 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: in unprecedented speed, in ways that are absolutely beyond the pale. 337 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: So we will dive into this what's going on a 338 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: whole slew of them just came down yesterday and we'll 339 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: bring you up to speed on that. Also want to 340 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 2: take a whole lot of your talkbacks, emails and calls today. 341 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna tell you right now, you're not 342 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 2: gonna get me to back down on this cobbler thing. 343 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 2: You cobbler gobblers out there need to join team pie 344 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: and stop thinking that somehow making it all crumbly makes 345 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: up for the fact that you messed up your pie 346 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: crust and called it a cobbler. That's what I'm here 347 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 2: for to speak the truth, and not all of you 348 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: want to hear cobbler reactions very justified. If my grandmothers 349 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: from the South, Southern Grandma's were still a live buck, 350 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 2: they would be saying, bless your heart potentially as they 351 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 2: bludgeoned you with their. 352 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: Cooking instruments that they used to make the cobble. They're 353 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: rolling pins, slapping me with rolling pins for my coble. 354 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: Think quite clearly, yes, Grandma Ruth and Grandma MG would 355 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: not be happy. We have some new steak bets in 356 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: the making, and the steaks that are being bet well 357 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: be great, be good ranchers. We were talking earlier about 358 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,959 Speaker 1: companies that share your values. 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So we have talked about what 376 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: the Trump Resistance two point zero was going to look 377 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: like compared to the Trump Resistance one point zero Trump, 378 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: and I want to see if you agree with this 379 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: overall thesis buck Trump resistance one point zero was actually 380 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: primarily driven by the Democrat Party. They all lined up 381 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: their media allies in the legacy media. They put Democracy 382 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 1: dies in darkness at the top of the Washington Post. 383 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: They laid out a direct attack. They tried to argue 384 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: Russia collusion. They had everybody moving in the same direction, 385 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: the legacy media and the Democrat Party. There now is 386 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: a void, I would say at both of those places. 387 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: The Democrats do not really have a leader. They have 388 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: a lot of squawking from people like Jasmine Crockett and 389 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: people like even now Tim Walls will play some audio 390 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: from of you of him for you. Gavin Newsom is 391 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: kind of floundering around. Kamala Harris has vanished for the meantime. 392 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: Joe Biden nobody's seen him. There is there's a leadership 393 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: void of a substantial level right now at the Democrat Party. 394 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: Hakeem Jefferies is a shadow compared to the power that 395 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi wielded as the head in the in the House, 396 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer is under siege in the Senate. What has 397 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: emerged as Trump two point zero challenge is nothing like 398 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: what we saw with Trump one point zero. Trump two 399 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: point zero. The challenge is being led by all of 400 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: these federal district court judges who are deciding to try 401 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: to enjoin, that is, stop Trump from doing his presidential 402 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: actions at a level, frankly, that we have never seen 403 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: before in terms of what they are trying to stop. 404 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: And I've got some numbers for you here, Buck, total 405 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: injunctions that were put in place during George W. Bush's 406 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: time in office, six three of them were by the 407 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: opposing party. Barack Obama total injunctions twelve, seven of them 408 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: came from the opposing party. Because twelve and eight years, correct, 409 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: are these are the years? This is their entire tenure. Okay, 410 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: Joe Biden during his fourteen sorry, during his four year term, 411 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: fourteen injunctions. Okay. These are tiny numbers we are seeing 412 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: right now, Buck, numbers that are off the charts even 413 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: compared to what we saw in the first Trump term. 414 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: The numbers right now, I believe I have this accurate. 415 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: This is from our friend high at libs of TikTok 416 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: ninety six different injunctions that have taken place now against Trump, 417 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: the vast majority of those injunctions eighty three having been 418 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: issued by Democrat appointed Federal District Court judges. 419 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 2: Well, here's it's been fifteen in a month, Clay, Yes, 420 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: in one month. Let me think right about that, right 421 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 2: in a sing Trump has already been president for four 422 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: years if you add them all up. This and to 423 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 2: give a sense to everybody of what these injunctions cover. 424 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: And I mentioned this the president of El Salvador, who 425 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 2: you would think, and you know, I gotta say, all 426 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: of Latin America should be looking at this guy and 427 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: the miracle that he has pulled off in El Salvador 428 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 2: and saying, hey, what did he do? How did he 429 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 2: accomplish that? But there's not really and certainly the American 430 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 2: left should be thinking the same thing. Maybe there's something 431 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: to learn here about turning a country from an unsafe 432 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: hellhole into a very safe place where people feel prosperous 433 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 2: and happy about the future. Anyway, he said that the 434 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 2: US is facing a judicial coup, and I got a 435 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: lot of attention. I think that's correct, Clay, For federal 436 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 2: judges just this month have ordered the following, the reinstatement 437 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 2: of all the US AID workers who were fired, Trump 438 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: having to tell a flight in mid air to return 439 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: to US airspace and to land here. The blocking of 440 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 2: transgender prohibitions in the military. Did you see that. That's 441 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 2: the latest one, reinstatement of Department of Education grants. I mean, 442 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: this is who's in charge? Who runs the federal government? 443 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: If Trump can't fire anybody and change any discretionary spending 444 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: done in the executive branch and make any determinations about policy, 445 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: who's the president? 446 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: Well, and this is super important to the Supreme Court, 447 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: we understand has ultimate authority on the law of the land. 448 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: It takes five Supreme Court justices to issue a ruling, 449 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: and that is the rule of the law of the land. 450 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 1: Right now, what we have is hundreds of federal district 451 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: court judges that are throwing themselves in front of Trump's actions. 452 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: One single judge is trying to overrule the president of 453 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,239 Speaker 1: the United States. And what they are taking advantage of 454 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: is an opportunity to try and run out the clock 455 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: when it comes to the Trump term and power. Because 456 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: what they know is and we've told you this, and 457 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: this is why the Trump team is trying to move 458 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: so fast. You don't know what's going to happen in 459 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, believe it or not, twenty twenty six, 460 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: the elections are going to be here very very soon, 461 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: and by the time we get to next year, they're 462 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 1: going to be trying to really slow down anything that 463 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: can be passed in Congress at all. And Trump is 464 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: likely to be able to keep the Senate, maybe even 465 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: expand his majority in the Senate, but we're talking about 466 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: the House coming down to just a couple of races, 467 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: and the likelihood right now is it's going to be 468 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: very hard to maintain a majority in the House, and 469 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: so they're trying to keep him from getting anything done. 470 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 2: Well, this is this is the single biggest challenge that 471 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: Trump has to the agenda right now, and it comes 472 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 2: from it comes from unelected appointed judges who also really 473 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 2: suffer no consequences because of their lifetime tenure for completely 474 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 2: unprofessional and overreaching judicial dictats. And I think that this 475 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 2: is the biggest challenge the Trump team faces. They knew 476 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 2: this was coming, He already went up against this in 477 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 2: the first term. But I'm not sure that we can 478 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 2: count on the Supreme Court to give the necessary relief 479 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 2: to this process, because unfortunately, Amy Cony, Barrett and Justice Roberts. 480 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 2: Chief Justice Roberts are institutionalists at their core, and they 481 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 2: believe that there's some system that is run by elites 482 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: that has to be protected even when it is not 483 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: in fact conducive to the will of the people. And 484 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 2: that's a big challenge. This is a major problem that 485 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 2: the Trump team faces right now. I hope the Supreme 486 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 2: Court steps in, but the strategy right now is just 487 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 2: slow everything down to a crawl via judges, and by 488 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 2: the time the midterms come around, will have thwarted Trump. 489 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 2: That's their whole plan. They have nothing else. 490 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I understand a lot of people out there 491 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: because we had to talk so much about the legal 492 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: system with the Trump attacks, whether it was civil, whether 493 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 1: it was criminal. Let me give you just a thirty 494 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: second rough overview of how this process works. There are 495 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: a team in New York. You can look up the number. 496 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: I think there's something like eight hundred federal district court 497 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: judges in the United States, A huge number. These judges 498 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: all have lifetime tenure. They work these federal district court 499 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: judges as sort of the single A if you're a 500 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: sports fan, the single A level of the court system. 501 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: Their opinions are then appealed to the federal district court. 502 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: And there are thirteen federal district courts in the United States. 503 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: And I used to be an expert on this back 504 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: when I was taking the bar exam and studying for 505 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 1: it and everything else. But the federal district courts will 506 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: pull together multiple different state courts. So you'll have, for instance, 507 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: in the sixth Circuit where I live Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio 508 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: is the sixth Circuit, ninth Circuit, for instance. And again 509 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: I'm doing this off the top of my head, is 510 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 1: the West Coast California, Oregon, Washington. You guys can correct 511 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong in our New York studios. This 512 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: is why we need a real time fact checker to 513 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: make sure I don't screw all this up. You appeal 514 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: to multiple judges at the circuit court level, so an 515 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: individual judge can make a decision at the federal court level. 516 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: It then can take buck months for the federal Circuit 517 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: court to rule. And then above the Federal Circuit Court 518 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: is the Supreme Court, And there are cases where from 519 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: the Federal District Court to the Supreme Court, we're talking 520 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: about a year years that the prom That is why 521 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: I hated being a litigator because it was so slow 522 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: moving and I just wanted to go, go, go. But 523 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: they are using the courts to try to stop the 524 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: Trump administration from doing what I believe he's been duly 525 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: elected to undertake. And so what you really have is 526 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: a argument about where does executive authority and where does 527 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: judicial authority? Actually where is the line of power? And 528 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: what these federal district court judges are doing is they're 529 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: gambling that even if they get overturned, that they are 530 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: going to be able to slow down the gears of 531 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: government and keep Trump from being able to enact the 532 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: executive plans that he was elected to enact. And so 533 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: you got all these Democrat judges that are basically throwing 534 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: themselves in front of the train tracks to try to 535 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: keep the Trump trained from rolling. That's I hope, somewhat 536 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: of an understandable explanation for what's going on big picture? 537 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: Am I too cynical about how the Supreme Court is 538 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: going to play into this? Do you have more hope 539 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: than me, come on, lawyer Clay. So I was actually, 540 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: I would say optimistic, and I think I ended up 541 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: being optimistic for a good reason as it pertained to 542 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden and whether they were going to let him 543 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: get off scott free. And thanks to Judge Mizelle if 544 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: I remember her name correctly in Delaware, that didn't happen. 545 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: I am very skeptical that Roberts in particular is going 546 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: to be very helpful of Trump. Now, they were very 547 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: helpful of Trump on presidential powers as it pertained to 548 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: the charges that were brought against him. But the problem 549 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: you run into here is Trump's only got three and 550 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: a half years here. 551 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 2: And here's the other thing that was even though it 552 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 2: was Trump, and so that blinded all the Libs that 553 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: was certainly institutionalist in nature, meaning yes, they understood if 554 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: you can prosecute a president for things he does as president, 555 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 2: you don't like the whole system collapse and the president 556 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,959 Speaker 2: recognized for every president in years into the future, right 557 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 2: in two terms, when it's President so and so and 558 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: the Democrats freak out and they start prosecuting him again, 559 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: I mean, the whole system starts to collapse on itself. 560 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: In this case. It's not that you should, you know, 561 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 2: wipe away the federal judges or anything the judiciary. It's 562 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: that there needs to be a willingness to strike down 563 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 2: the overreach that has become systematic and intentional to undermine 564 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 2: the executive branch at its core. I don't know, you know, 565 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: I don't know how they see that. I you know, 566 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: Amy Cony, Barrett good on abortion, bad on pretty much 567 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 2: a lot of other things. 568 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: So here's the challenge illegallybuck and this is why I 569 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: think they're having some success. A lot of this is 570 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: fact based determination, meaning where exactly the line is drawn 571 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: between presidential authority and judicial action is somewhat complicated. I 572 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: liked Steven Miller yesterday we played the audio where he said, 573 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: clearly a federal circuit district court judge can't stop the 574 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: president from moving as commander in chief brigades around overseas. 575 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 2: The only thing that a federal judge can't do, apparently, 576 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 2: is stop a president from starting a war. Okay, well, 577 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: I'm glad to know that that's there. 578 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: But it is significant. They said that the plane was 579 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: already in international waters. The federal district court judge a 580 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: jurisdiction does not extend by and large to international decisions 581 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: made by the President of the United States. But does 582 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: it extend to all of these minute different details. Easy answer, 583 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: we don't know. I don't believe so. But asking the 584 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: courts to have to shepherd all of this and determine 585 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: all of it is very complicated, and the ultimate goal 586 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: is just to stop. They just want They don't really care. 587 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: They just remember when Biden said, Bucket was very telling, 588 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: I can't do this, but I'm going to do it 589 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: anyway because it's going to take the Supreme Court a 590 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,959 Speaker 1: while to rule on it. 591 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 2: That's basically this just like the obamaism. I've got a 592 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 2: pen and a phone, go around Congress. That's what that meant. 593 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 2: He was going around Congress even though he didn't have 594 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: the authority to do it. But it was great when 595 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: Obama did it. 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Slash Buck sponsored by 622 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: Preborn Speak. 623 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: Out with the guys on the Sunday Hang with Clay 624 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: and Buck podcast, a new episode every Sunday. Find it 625 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: on the iheartapp or wherever you get your podcasts. 626 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Uh, we're gonna come 627 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 2: back in here. Talk a bit more about the judicial 628 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 2: who underway, and also Clay shared some fascinating data about 629 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 2: where where people are on the ideological spectrum in this 630 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 2: country now by different demographics. Spoiler alert, white college educated 631 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 2: women pretty much putting their foot on the accelerator and 632 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 2: driving this country, driving the the bus of America into 633 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: a tree. 634 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: As fast as they possibly get. Crazy Buck, these numbers 635 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: are like we were looking at them, go in to 636 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: break wild wild stuff. 637 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: So we'll talk about that a couple I want to 638 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 2: get to some of your vip emails and also some 639 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 2: of the things you're writing in. Let me just say 640 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,919 Speaker 2: VIP email from Jenny, Hey, just heard that you're thinking 641 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 2: of switching to starlink. I did that two weeks ago 642 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 2: because my internet service was terrible in rural Utah. There's 643 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 2: even a sale in the hardware right now. But I 644 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 2: wanted to support Elon as well. And the starlink speeds 645 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 2: are insane, easy to set up. It's fantastic, I say, 646 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 2: do it. I think we are going to do it here. 647 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 2: So yeah, Starlink is another opportunity to Like I said, 648 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 2: we're not sponsored by Eline or anything. I just think 649 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: it's great. I will point out, but my wife loves Costco. 650 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 2: I don't know if you can hear me right now, 651 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 2: and I did not know this. Some of you have 652 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 2: let me know. I don't know everything. I mean I 653 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 2: know a lot, but I don't know everything. And apparently 654 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 2: Costco is very woke and very woke, very. 655 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 1: Age. 656 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 2: They're very committed to DEI okay, well now I know, 657 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 2: and we're going to limit the Costco shopping as long 658 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 2: as I can stay married. 659 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: Good good luck, by the way, good luck with that. 660 00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: Good luck. 661 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,919 Speaker 2: I'm going to look. I've never just to be clear, 662 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 2: I've never even been to Costco. All right, I wouldn't 663 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 2: be trying to limit anything right now. Yeah, well, wife, 664 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 2: I don't know. This is a battle ground you need 665 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 2: to go on to. I think I think you're right, 666 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna have to strike that from the record. 667 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,959 Speaker 1: But but glint the transcript, so there's no. 668 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 2: Ass so we I but I will. We'll start to pressure, 669 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 2: we'll find ways to bring it to light. And you know, 670 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 2: because it's a legal issue. If they're pursuing dei policies, 671 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: they're a violation of where the Constitution is on hiring, 672 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 2: for example, and what the Supreme Court has said. So 673 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 2: all right, learn something about costco. 674 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: Here, Clay. 675 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 2: I didn't know because I've never go but yeah, I 676 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 2: want to stay married, so I can't shut it all down. 677 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 1: But we're working on it. You've brought it to my attention. 678 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 2: We'll talk more about the judicial two here in a 679 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 2: second