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Speaker 1: Hi again everybody.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading the Bengals Booth Podcast. Nah,

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Speaker 2: the Bengals free agency acquisitions and the upcoming draft with

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Speaker 2: NFL dot Com writer and analyst Nick Schuk, plus a

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Speaker 2: a quick reminder that you can have the latest edition

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Speaker 2: greatest thing, said It's Logan Wilson. On Wednesday, the former

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Speaker 2: Bengals linebacker announced that he's retiring after six seasons in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. Two significant injuries were a major factor why

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Speaker 2: he's calling it quits. A few months before his thirtieth birthday.

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Speaker 2: Logan was part of a great draft for Cincinnati Joe

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Speaker 2: Burrow in round one, t Higgins in round two, and

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Speaker 2: says that Cincinnati was the perfect place for him to

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Speaker 2: spend nearly all of his NFL career.

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Speaker 3: I feel like the for being from a small town,

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Speaker 3: like it's not an overwhelming big city, but you get

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Speaker 3: the amenities of a big city. The people are also

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of great people in Wyoming. So for

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Speaker 3: me to come into an organization like in the NFL,

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Speaker 3: I don't think I could have picked a better city

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Speaker 3: to kind of end up in just to kind.

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Speaker 4: Of pick up where I left off from where I

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Speaker 5: So it's been a lot of it's been a lot

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Speaker 5: of good things that have happened here.

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Speaker 2: Later on the podcast, more on Logan Wilson as will

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Speaker 2: flash back to one of the most important interceptions in

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Speaker 2: team history, hear him discuss what it meant to be

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Speaker 2: a Bengals captain and bring you an encore presentation of

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Speaker 2: my fun facts. Conversation with him as he discusses his

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Speaker 2: road to Cincinnati. But first, it's my visit with Nick

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Speaker 2: Shook from NFL dot Com as he shares his thoughts

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Speaker 2: on the Bengals moves in free agency and who we

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Speaker 2: should all be hoping to still be available when Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: is on the clock with the tenth pick in this

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Speaker 2: year's draft. Nick, the Bengals made three significant free agent

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Speaker 2: additions on defense, safety Brian Cook, edge defender boy A Mafe,

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Speaker 2: and defensive tackle Jonathan Allen. Give me your grade for

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Speaker 2: each of those editions and explain why.

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Speaker 6: I gotta start with Willya Mafe, one of my favorite

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Speaker 6: edge rusher's additions to this team, a guy that they

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Speaker 6: certainly needed, especially after losing Trey hendrickson which I think

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Speaker 6: we all expected him to walk away and go somewhere else,

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Speaker 5: Mafe is a guy that I believe.

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Speaker 6: Most people don't aren't fully aware of as part of

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Speaker 5: So for grading on a traditional academic scale, I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: Like I don't know at b plus a minus because

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Speaker 6: they addressed what they needed to. I don't think it

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Speaker 6: And then I look at as like, oh, well, they

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Speaker 5: So we'll give that. I think a bus C plus range.

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Speaker 6: we're going to draft defensive tackles. We're going to hope

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Speaker 6: They've gone through a lot of them, and I think

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Speaker 6: There were other stars that made it happen. There were

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Speaker 6: times where he got the there were times where he

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Speaker 6: Obviously you're trying to entice him to come to the

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Speaker 6: I am gonna take a wait and see approach on that.

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Speaker 6: It's again a position that they needed to address, and

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Speaker 6: I you know, give Douke Tobin a lot of credit

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Speaker 6: sure if his production is going to match that salary

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Speaker 5: The one I'm most excited about is definitely Mafe.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me circle back to that, Nick, Why was

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Speaker 6: I just really liked the role that he failled in Seattle.

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Speaker 6: I felt like, you know, we pay attention to a

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Speaker 5: It felt like Mafey was always there.

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Speaker 6: There was kind of a similar situation with a former

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Speaker 6: But he'let and I think he'll be a great addition

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Speaker 6: but he's going to be effective for them. And I

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Speaker 6: think that you know, they've spent draft capital on that side,

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Speaker 6: I believe will help upgrade this front where they desperately

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Speaker 2: You made a reference to the column that you wrote

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Speaker 2: this week where you basically looked at the best fit

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Speaker 2: of those players matched up with Cincinnati. But there are

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Speaker 2: obviously other free agents that are still out there. Are

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Speaker 5: It's a great question.

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Speaker 6: I think offensively you're largely set. You could look at

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Speaker 6: You hope that on that front, Miles Murphy and Boye

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Speaker 5: Maybe you lack some depth.

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Speaker 5: Where you draft at him. They need linebackers.

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Speaker 6: I really think they need linebackers, and I think it's

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Speaker 6: I think the bible for free agency is my colleague

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Speaker 6: Maybe it's a position that you addressed in the draft,

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Speaker 6: but I definitely think that they still need linebackers. Like

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Speaker 6: the idea of Demetrius Knight and Barrett Carter is your

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Speaker 6: and we know that they've kind of cleared out that

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Speaker 6: they need some help back there, and I think they'll

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Speaker 6: address it in the draft more than free agency.

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Speaker 2: Bobby Wagner is still out there, obviously getting up there

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Speaker 6: You know, Milano probably makes more sense given that you

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Speaker 2: In that group, the Bengals would still like to bring

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Speaker 2: Nick Shook is our guest from NFL dot Com. You

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Speaker 2: talk about the Bengals offensive line. They extended Orlando Brown

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Speaker 5: Passable.

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Speaker 6: It's not the best unit, but it wasn't as bad

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Speaker 5: Than in past years.

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Speaker 5: They have Cody Ford there as a backup. He's a

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Speaker 6: But I think there's some depth in this draft, especially

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a backup swing tackle is a real

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Speaker 2: the draft. And let's turn to the draft. Who should

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Speaker 2: Bengals fans be praying to still be there when they're

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Speaker 6: Well, we know a lot of Ohio State fans reside

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Speaker 6: But we know that a lot of the people who've

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Speaker 5: He is a three level defender.

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Speaker 6: He can come up to the line, he's one of

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Speaker 5: They're already be gone.

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Speaker 2: Caleb Downs is one of four guys that I think

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Speaker 5: But I think at that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the debate.

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Speaker 6: is an interesting player, you know, sitting at the combine,

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Speaker 6: some of these guys didn't end up working out, and

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Speaker 6: so that's kind of where I use my frame of

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Speaker 6: reference when I'm trying to separate some of the top

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Speaker 6: players in this upcoming draft. And so I lean Woods

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Speaker 6: because I think that his numbers and his size and

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Speaker 6: everything else, like he didn't do the drills on the field,

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Speaker 6: but a lot of like his testing stuff was really good,

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Speaker 6: and it was one of those players where like, I

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Speaker 6: really wish you would have participated, just so I could

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Speaker 6: have gotten a look at how you moved. But he's

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Speaker 6: one of those players who I think is so effective

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Speaker 6: that maybe he realized he didn't need to go through

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Speaker 6: the drills to really prove his worth, So I would

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Speaker 6: go that direction.

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Speaker 5: I think there is a lot of talent.

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Speaker 6: You know I talked about already, but but the edge rushers,

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Speaker 6: you know, Falk being one of them. But there's I

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Speaker 6: mean there's a number of guys that I really liked

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Speaker 6: that we're working out at the combine. You started with

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Speaker 6: Reese and Bailey, which, by the way, I would play

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Speaker 6: Reese as a linebacker, as an off ball linebacker and

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Speaker 6: allow him to rush the passer. Sometimes I think he's

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Speaker 6: too good to just limit as an edge rusher and

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Speaker 6: fit him into that box when he's dynamically talented.

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Speaker 5: But I mean, Bailey's not going to be there. But

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Speaker 5: you know, there's a number of other guys there.

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Speaker 6: I even think about Ramelo Height, the running mate for

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Speaker 6: David Bailey at Texas Tech. I really liked his workout

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Speaker 6: as well. George Gumbs from Florida is very intriguing. So

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Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of talent on that defensive

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Speaker 6: front that you could, you know, resupply this defense with

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Speaker 6: if you decide to go in that direction.

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Speaker 2: We reference the Bengals needed linebacker. How is this draft

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Speaker 2: after styles at linebacker?

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Speaker 6: I mean, it kind of takes a step back, but

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Speaker 6: I think Reese deserves to be in that group. Doesn't

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Speaker 6: take as big of a step back as it's done

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Speaker 6: in most years. I think this has been the position

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Speaker 6: group that's been the thinnest over the last five years

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Speaker 6: in most drafts, mainly because linebacker is just not as

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Speaker 6: a valued position in the NFL as it was ten

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Speaker 6: fifteen years ago, because everybody plays so many sub packages

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Speaker 6: that you end up having box dafety's and one less

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Speaker 6: linebacker on the field.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, you're looking for a dynamic athlete.

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Speaker 6: So this year, you know you have the two Ohio

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Speaker 6: State guys, right, I think Reese is the guy with

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Speaker 6: the higher ceiling styles, is the guy that tests, you know,

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Speaker 6: really well, and you know has kind of proved with

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Speaker 6: his production over the last few years at Ohio State.

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Speaker 5: But I think Reese is the really the guy.

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Speaker 6: If you're moving on from those two guys, I think

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Speaker 6: you look at Jacob Rodriguez from Texas Tech, who would

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Speaker 6: probably be linebacker number one in most classes that didn't

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Speaker 6: include Sonny Styles in Rvil Reese. You look at Jake

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Speaker 6: Golday from Cincinnati local kid. I think he's also in

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Speaker 6: the running there, and I'm curious to see where he

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Speaker 6: gets drafted because I think whoever takes him and where

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Speaker 6: they take him could get serious value out of him.

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Speaker 6: And even Betcher, the kid from Oregon, you know, played

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Speaker 6: a ton of football with the Ducks, was kind of

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Speaker 6: the heartbeat of their defense. I think he could help

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Speaker 6: out a lot. And you know, even guys like Kyle

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Speaker 6: Lewis from Pitt's Pitt, who essentially is like a safety

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Speaker 6: playing linebacker. If you're looking for the sub package linebacker guy,

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Speaker 6: the special guy that you're going to use on most downs,

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Speaker 6: if you're gonna lean on Nickel packages, he could end

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Speaker 6: up being that guy who can, you know, play at

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Speaker 6: the second level but really performed like a safety in

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Speaker 6: the box.

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Speaker 5: You could go there as well.

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Speaker 6: But I think you look at Rodriguez and you look

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Speaker 6: at Goldae, those are two guys that would probably be

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Speaker 6: mid to late first round picks in most years that

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Speaker 6: are going to fall just because of the existence of

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Speaker 6: styles in rees. And I think that's a good problem

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Speaker 6: to have if you're the Bengals and you're looking at linebacker.

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Speaker 2: Nick The Bengals offseason mission was to fix the defense.

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Speaker 2: We know that the offense should be really good. Between

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Speaker 2: the players that they've signed and what's out there in

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Speaker 2: the draft, how optimistic should Bengals fans be that this

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Speaker 2: defense is going to be significantly better?

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Speaker 5: Pretty optimistic.

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Speaker 6: Part of it kind of comes down to the fact

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Speaker 6: that Al Golden's got a year under his belt with

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Speaker 6: the Bengals and has been able to install his system.

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Speaker 6: I felt like, you know, there were times where their

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Speaker 6: defense looked like it was taking multiple steps forward. It

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Speaker 6: just wasn't super consistent throughout the course of the entire season.

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Speaker 6: But I think that they built some momentum that is

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Speaker 6: positive going into the offseason. Then you add in these

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Speaker 6: guys like Alan Mafey Cook, you look at your existing

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Speaker 6: players and if you can get the most out of

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Speaker 6: some of these unproven guys that you were expecting to

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Speaker 6: do a lot like a Miles Murphy like a Shamar Stewart,

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Speaker 6: and you can add in some talent at linebacker or

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Speaker 6: maybe in the secondary if you don't find you know

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Speaker 6: that you want one of these edge rugs in the

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Speaker 6: first round. You can kind of complete this picture, or

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Speaker 6: at least bring it closer to completion.

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Speaker 5: Than you've been in the last few years.

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Speaker 6: And with the second year of Al Golden now in charge,

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Speaker 6: with all these talent in there, it feels like it's

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Speaker 6: a general upgrade, so they can be optimistic.

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Speaker 5: But what's most important, which is true.

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Speaker 6: For any team, but especially for the Bengals, is the

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Speaker 6: health of their team, and it's the health of their quarterback.

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Speaker 6: And I really just wanted to see Joe Burrow make

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Speaker 6: it through a full season and have a defense that's competent,

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Speaker 6: and really see where this team can go, because I

551
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Speaker 6: felt like the Bengals, they what they did to their

552
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Speaker 6: fans by reaching the Super Bowl, losing in heartbreaking fashion,

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Speaker 6: then nearly making it again the next year, and then

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Speaker 6: what they've done in the next three four years has

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Speaker 6: just been unfair. But it's been typical of a football

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Speaker 6: fan that resides in Ohio, whether you're a Bengals or

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Speaker 6: a Browns fan. I think they deserve better, and I

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Speaker 6: believe that they're closer to getting there this year than

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Speaker 6: they have been in recent years.

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Speaker 2: Only three years and Joe has been injured for.

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Speaker 6: Two exactly, Yeah, three four five. I was gonna do

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Speaker 6: the finger counting, which is what I typically do, but

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Speaker 6: you know.

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Speaker 2: All right, final question for Nick Schuk from NFL dot

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Speaker 2: Com and I appreciate your time. You're a Northeast Ohio guy.

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Speaker 2: So you know the AFC North, Well, how does the

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Speaker 2: division shape up in your mind right now?

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Speaker 3: Ah?

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Speaker 6: You know, this is a question that really depends on

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Speaker 6: what the Ravens are going to be because I felt

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Speaker 6: like they were the team to be in the AFC

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Speaker 6: North over the last few years, and they have kind

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Speaker 6: of fallen short generally speaking, especially last season. Obviously, the

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Speaker 6: Lamar injury did not help them. The idea of replacing

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Speaker 6: him with Cooper Rush and never made any sense, And

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Speaker 6: luckily they figured that out before long and went to

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Speaker 6: Tyler Huntley and have made that change permanent. But they're

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Speaker 6: also dealing with the new coaching staff. They're also dealing

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Speaker 6: with the decent amount of departures. A lot of guys

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Speaker 6: who followed John Harbaugh in New York. Their team just

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Speaker 6: looks different than it has over the last few years,

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Speaker 6: and they have needs that they need to fill. Obviously,

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Speaker 6: they added Trey Hendrickson, which is a big, big get

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Speaker 6: for them, but he's got to stay healthy, and I

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Speaker 6: still think that they need somebody else to kind of

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Speaker 6: pair with him, just because for as good of a

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Speaker 6: player as he is, he's not necessarily the level of

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Speaker 6: a player they thought they were getting in Max Crosby.

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Speaker 6: So I think that they are still probably in the

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Speaker 6: driver's seat if all these things can come together. But

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Speaker 6: I think it gets real tight between the Steelers and

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Speaker 6: the Bengals. The Steelers, you know, another team with the

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Speaker 6: new coaching staff and the first time that they've broken

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Speaker 6: from convention and going with a veteran coach instead of

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Speaker 6: a young, ascending coach. They're at a weird juncture in

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Speaker 6: their franchise's history in which they know they don't have

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Speaker 6: a long term planet quarterback. To keep trying to point

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Speaker 6: to Will Howard as somebody who potentially can be the

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Speaker 6: answer long term. I don't buy it, and they're waiting

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Speaker 6: on Aaron Rodgers, who I fully expect to become a

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Speaker 6: Steeler and.

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Speaker 5: They spent all this money on their defense.

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Speaker 6: Last year, the defense wasn't great, and they've gotten better

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Speaker 6: on that side of the ball, and I think they've

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Speaker 6: gotten better on the offensive side of the ball. So

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Speaker 6: that's where it's going to be a very close race

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Speaker 6: between them and the Bengals, because you could say similar

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Speaker 6: things about the Bengals, except they still have their coaching

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Speaker 6: staff intact, and they have a franchise quarterback who's one

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Speaker 6: of the best in the NFL as long as he

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Speaker 6: can stay healthy. So their neck and neck right there,

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Speaker 6: right behind the Ravens. But honestly, I think it's a

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Speaker 6: three horse race for number one, and I could see

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Speaker 6: any of those three teams winning the division. The one

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Speaker 6: team I know that's not going to win the division

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Speaker 6: is the Cleveland Browns, who are clearly in a rebuild

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Speaker 6: and still hamstrung by that terrible contract they gave to

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Speaker 6: DeShawn Watson. They are interesting to watch only because they're

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Speaker 6: an object of curiosity, not because they're a title contender.

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Speaker 6: So it's going to be another fun year. Hopefully the

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Speaker 6: division overall is better than it was last year, because

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Speaker 6: it was very average, which is not typical of the

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Speaker 6: AFC North.

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Speaker 2: Very atypical of the AFC North, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Nick.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time and your expertise. As always, thanks so

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Speaker 2: much for joining.

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Speaker 5: Me, Thanks for having me on Dan Up.

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Speaker 2: Next a tribute to Logan Wilson. But first, a quick

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Speaker 2: provider of the Bengals. One of the most remarkable things

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Speaker 2: about the Bengals Super Bowl run in twenty twenty one

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Speaker 2: was the fact that the final defensive play in all

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Speaker 2: three of their playoff wins was an interception. The first

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Speaker 2: was Jermaine Pratt's pick near the goal line to clinch

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Speaker 2: a home win over the Raiders. The third was Von

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Speaker 2: Bell's overtimet at Kansas City that set up Evan McPherson's

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Speaker 2: game winning field goal. And in between was this play

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Speaker 2: in the final minute of a tie game at Tennessee

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Speaker 2: thirty two seconds left, third down and five Tannehill ready

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Speaker 2: for the shotgun snap. He has the ball, He's back

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Speaker 2: to throw, looking throws over.

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Speaker 1: The Medal Robot intercept it. The Bengals have it at

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Speaker 1: the forty seven yard line. Twenty seconds on the clock

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Speaker 1: and the.

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Speaker 2: Bengals will have the ball about fifteen yards away from

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Speaker 2: Evan McPherson's long field goal range. Logan Wilson with the

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Speaker 2: interception on the tip ball, Eli Apple with the tip,

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Speaker 2: Logan Wilson with the pick, and after a nineteen yard

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Speaker 2: pass to Jamar Chase Money, Mack booted a fifty two

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Speaker 2: yard walk off field goal to send Cincinnati to the

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Speaker 2: AFC Championship Game. It was the first road playoff win

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Speaker 2: in teen history. A year later, Logan Wilson was a

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Speaker 2: big part of another iconic Bengals defensive play, as he

660
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 2: punched the ball away from Ravens quarterback Tyler Huntley into

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Speaker 2: the hands of Sam Hubbard, who ran ninety eight yards

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Speaker 2: for the game winning touchdown. Wilson's role is one of

663
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Speaker 2: the reasons I prefer calling it the fumble in the

664
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Speaker 2: Jungle instead of the Hubbard yard dash, since Sam never

665
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,239
Speaker 2: gets the ball if Wilson didn't knock it free. In

666
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: addition to being a great player, Wilson was the consummate pro,

667
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: being chosen by his teammates as a captain last year.

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Speaker 4: I've always said this, even in college. I think that's

669
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Speaker 4: the best of Warden sports.

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Speaker 3: It's just like, because you're going to war, you're going

671
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 3: to work, you're doing everything with those people around you,

672
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: and they see what you go through and they see

673
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 3: how you go about your business and see how you

674
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 3: do all the little things, and like they admire and

675
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 3: respect that. And to be honored for that, like that's

676
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 3: just to me the best award. And to know that

677
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 3: they look up to you in times of adversity speaks volumes.

678
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, as he came back from knee surgery last year,

679
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: Wilson's play suffered and he was replaced by Barrett Carter

680
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 2: in the starting lineup midway through the season. But even then,

681
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: his leadership stood out, as Logan made it a point

682
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,959
Speaker 2: to help the rookie who took his spot.

683
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,239
Speaker 3: You know, I put my arm around him. I told him,

684
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Speaker 3: I said, there's gonna be no hard feelings between us.

685
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,719
Speaker 3: Just know that, Like, I'm not going to change who

686
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 3: I am. I still want to help you out. I

687
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: know I've played a lot of football and there's things

688
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 3: I can still pour into you. And I told myself

689
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Speaker 3: I was not going to change who I am because

690
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 3: of a time of adversity in my life. And you know,

691
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Speaker 3: if whenever my career is done, like look back at

692
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: this time of adversity and be able to tell my

693
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Speaker 3: kids how to how to get through, how to work

694
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Speaker 3: through adversity like this, And so that's what I'll be

695
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Speaker 3: most proud of. By the end of the day, I'm

696
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: still gonna work to continue to get better and just

697
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Speaker 3: continue to support him as best as I can, because

698
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Speaker 3: that's what a good teammate would do.

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Speaker 7: He's been nothing but helpful for me. Just I still

700
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 7: lean on him every single day, and I still will

701
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Speaker 7: continue to lean on him every single day no matter

702
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Speaker 7: what the coach decides to do. It's not it's not

703
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 7: up to me, it's not up to him. But we both,

704
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Speaker 7: we both love each other, we both go to war

705
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Speaker 7: with each other.

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Speaker 2: In the weeks that followed, Logan was traded to Dallas

707
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Speaker 2: and the Wyoming Cowboy played his final seven NFL games

708
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Speaker 2: as a Dallas Cowboy. But make no mistake. Logan Wilson

709
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: will always be a Cincinnati Bengal. His rookie year was

710
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty, the COVID season with limited fans in the

711
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: stands and limited face to face contact between the media

712
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: and players and coaches. So I first got to know

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Speaker 2: Logan over zoom. Here's an encore presentation of our fun

714
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Speaker 2: facts conversation from his first year in Cincinnati. Time for

715
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Speaker 2: some fun facts with linebacker Logan Wilson from the Cowboys

716
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Speaker 2: State Wyoming, more specifically Casper, Wyoming. Logan, I'm guessing that

717
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Speaker 2: most of the people in our audience have never been

718
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Speaker 2: to Casper.

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Speaker 1: Described your hometown, it.

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Speaker 3: Would will be what we would call the windy city

721
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Speaker 3: of Wyoming. Although Wyoming is very windy as the state,

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Speaker 3: Casper is one of the windier cities in Wyoming. We're

723
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Speaker 3: the second biggest city in Wyoming behind Cheyenne, of about

724
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Speaker 3: sixty thousand people, so not very big by any means,

725
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Speaker 3: but definitely big for Wyoming town.

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Speaker 2: So sixty thousand is not exactly tiny. Obviously, did you

727
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: grow up in a neighborhood with quite a few other

728
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Speaker 2: families or did you have a lot of property.

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Speaker 4: We grew up in a neighborhood, you know.

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Speaker 3: I lived about I think it was like two or

731
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Speaker 3: three blocks from my elementary school. So I used to

732
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Speaker 3: walk to elementary school, and then I went to Junior

733
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Speaker 3: High on the on the west side. I lived on

734
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Speaker 3: the west side of Casper and kind of grew up

735
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Speaker 3: with all those people and then went to.

736
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Speaker 4: High school sports with those guys as well.

737
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Speaker 3: And then I was lucky enough to play college football

738
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Speaker 3: with one of my high school friends that I grew

739
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Speaker 3: up with.

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Speaker 4: Since I moved to Casper, I wasn't born in Casper.

741
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: I was born in Aberdeen, South Dakota, and then I

742
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: lived in Cody for a little bit prior to moving

743
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Speaker 3: to Casper.

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Speaker 2: Or doing fun facts with Logan Wilson, I understand that

745
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Speaker 2: your dad was an accomplished college wrestler. He is in

746
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: the Dickinson State University Hall of Fame. Is that where

747
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: your love of sports came from?

748
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Speaker 4: Yeah, my dad was.

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Speaker 3: He pushed me to be not only a good athlete,

750
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Speaker 3: but also a great student. And I think that the

751
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 3: thing that my dad always did was he never let

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Speaker 3: me settle for anything I ever achieved or anything I

753
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: ever underachieved. You know, whatever, if I got any awards

754
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 3: or any success. This is his model was always that's great,

755
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 3: now keep working hard. But he would always reiterate that

756
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: keep working hard mentality, and I think that that's probably,

757
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: you know, something he learned along his athletic career, and

758
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 3: he definitely instilled.

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Speaker 4: That in me.

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Speaker 2: When did you begin streaming of a career in pro football.

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Speaker 3: What's funny is a lot of people don't know, is

762
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 3: I never even wanted to play tackle football when I

763
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 3: was little. I enjoyed playing flag football better than I

764
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 3: did worried about contact stuff. And then you know, the

765
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 3: more I played it, the more my love for the

766
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 3: game grew.

767
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 4: And I think really.

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Speaker 3: Once I got to college into my second or third year,

769
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Speaker 3: is when I realized I might have an opportunity to

770
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Speaker 3: play into the in the NFL, and I just kind

771
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: of let it take care of itself.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: I never really worried about it, never really stressed about it,

774
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Speaker 3: just kind of focused on what was in front of

775
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Speaker 3: me at the time. And here I am.

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Speaker 1: We're chatting with Logan Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Your high school is the alma mater a former US

778
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: Vice President Dick Cheney. Is there a big Dick Cheney

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00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: display at your alma mater, and is that a big

780
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: point of pride for students that went there.

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00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 3: Our high school stadium is called Cheney Alumni Field, So yeah,

782
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: there's that's it's pretty cool having that background. Knowing someone

783
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 3: like that on that level of social status, you know,

784
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 3: that has gotten to our high school is really cool

785
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: and really unique.

786
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Speaker 4: You know, not a lot of high schools across the

787
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 4: country you're able to say that.

788
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Speaker 2: From there, it was on to the University of Wyoming

789
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 2: and Laramie, about one hundred and fifty miles from home.

790
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: Was it always your dream to play for the Brown

791
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: and Gold?

792
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, for me, it was.

793
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 3: I had an offer from Weaver State early on in

794
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: my recruiting, but ultimately I wanted to play at the

795
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Speaker 3: University of Wyoming.

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Speaker 4: You know, they had just gotten a new coach and

797
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 4: Craig Bowl and who's.

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00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 3: Still there right now at the time, and he just

799
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 3: seemed like a really good guy to play for. And

800
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Speaker 3: as a Wyoming kid, you you kind of grow up

801
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Speaker 3: with the dreaming about the opportunity of representing the Brown

802
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Speaker 3: and Gold because a lot of people don't realize that Wyoming,

803
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: the University of Wyoming is our only in sate university

804
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 3: and it's kind of like Wyoming's pro team, So the

805
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,479
Speaker 3: whole state rallies behind all the athletics at the University

806
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: of Wyoming, and I think that that's what makes the

807
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Speaker 3: University of Wyoming so unique.

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Speaker 1: What was the best part of your college experience?

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Speaker 3: I mean, really all of it. You know, I wouldn't

810
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: be where I am today without anything that ever happened.

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Speaker 3: But I think that one of the best parts about

812
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Speaker 3: playing college football was just kind of getting to.

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Speaker 4: Know people from all sorts of different backgrounds.

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Speaker 3: You know, we had guys from California, Texas, Colorado, Nebraska.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's people from pretty much everywhere Florida that

816
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 3: come to the University of Wyoming. And don't get me wrong,

817
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 3: the University of Wyomings Town is not like a It's

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Speaker 3: a college town, is the best way to say it.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: I think there's thirty thousand plus people that's including the

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Speaker 3: student population, so it's not very big by any means,

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Speaker 3: and so it's not for everyone. Plus it gets really cold,

823
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Speaker 3: and a lot of people don't like to play in

824
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Speaker 3: the cold, so it's very unique.

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Speaker 4: And I think that that's what was.

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Speaker 3: Really cool was everyone kind of bonded coming there for

827
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Speaker 3: that one ultimate goal to win some football games.

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Speaker 2: So your college teammates for three years included Josh Allen,

829
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Speaker 2: the quarterback for the Buffalo Bills. How excited are you

830
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Speaker 2: to see the success he's having in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I love seeing it. I love seeing any any one

832
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Speaker 3: of my former teammates and having the success that they do.

833
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Speaker 3: But him specifically, to be the highest drafted Wyoming University

834
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Speaker 3: of Wyoming football player we've ever had and to be

835
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Speaker 3: representing not only himself but the University of Wyoming and

836
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Speaker 3: the way he has been doing is very awesome for

837
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Speaker 3: our state. You know, our state loves him. He's represented

838
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Speaker 3: it with class, and you know, he's just one of

839
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Speaker 3: those kids that you would wish nothing but success for.

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Speaker 2: So you were a defensive back in high school and

841
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Speaker 2: put out about fifty pounds to be an outstanding linebacker

842
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Speaker 2: in college?

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Speaker 1: How did you gain the weight?

844
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Speaker 4: It didn't happen overnight. It was a process, for sure.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I got to the University of Wyoming at about one

847
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 3: hundred and ninety five pounds and.

848
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Speaker 4: Just kind of took it day by day and by.

849
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Speaker 3: The time I was playing after I red shirted, I

850
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 3: was my red shirt freshman year, I think I was

851
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 3: about two fifteen, and then my sophomore year, I was

852
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 3: about two thirty. Then my junior year, I was about

853
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 3: two fifty, and then my senior year I was about

854
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 3: back down to two forty. But it was just kind

855
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 3: of a process of eating right way, not trying to

856
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: put on bad weight and stuff with fat that's gonna

857
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Speaker 3: slow you down. It's I worked with my nutritionists and

858
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 3: it was just a long process. But Coach Bull's whole

859
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: program is about developing, developing kids. You know, we're not

860
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Speaker 3: gonna recruit.

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Speaker 4: We're not going to get those five star kids who

862
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 4: have already you.

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00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 3: Know, they're ready to go in and play right away,

864
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Speaker 3: and so they have the tools available at the University

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Speaker 3: of Wyoming.

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Speaker 4: It's just a matter of whether or not you use

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Speaker 4: them correctly.

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Speaker 2: Were there are a ton of protein shakes? Were you

869
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Speaker 2: eating peanut butter and jelly before you went to bed.

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Speaker 2: I've heard stories of guys that you know, had to

871
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Speaker 2: do whatever it took to keep some of that weight on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was a lot of protein shakes,

873
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: for sure, protein shakes at night when you're full, you

874
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 3: had to pound one just to just to be able

875
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 3: to maintain that weight. It was just kind of a sacrifice,

876
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 3: so to say, you kind of had to stretch your

877
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 3: stomach so that you could hold down that food.

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Speaker 2: You were the first pick of the third round in

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty NFL Draft. Describe your draft experience.

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Speaker 4: Not what I expected, so to say, in terms of COVID.

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Speaker 3: And you know, not being able to go kind of

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00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 3: be in Vegas for the draft and celebrate with my family.

883
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 3: So but that was something that's out of my control

884
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 3: and I enjoyed every moment of it being with my

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00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 3: family and Casper. It was a very opportunity of a

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Speaker 3: lifetime and.

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00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 4: Very thankful what happened. You know.

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00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 3: It was just it's surreal and like I think the

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00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: best way I described it is I was I couldn't

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00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 3: describe it. There's just so many emotions that went through

891
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 3: your head, you know, and it's just kind of I

892
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: think that's just the nature of having this opportunity, this

893
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 3: lifelong dream so many kids dream about doing, and you

894
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: actually having it right in front of you and just

895
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 3: trying to take the take advantage of it.

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Speaker 2: A few more fun facts for Logan Wilson, who is

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Speaker 2: your all time favorite athlete in any sport.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 4: Growing up, I was a because I was in Wyoming,

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00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 4: I was.

901
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 3: I grew up a Broncos fan, so I was a

902
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 3: huge Champ Bailey fan because I also played defensive back.

903
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 3: I never played lineback until I got to college, but

904
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Speaker 3: I would probably have to say, Champ Bailey.

905
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: What do you like to spend your money on?

906
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 3: You know, I'm pretty smart about my money, and I'm stingy,

907
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 3: so to say, in a way, I usually like to

908
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 3: spend my money on my dogs, my girlfriend, and maybe

909
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,959
Speaker 3: some clothes here and there that i'd like to to get.

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00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 4: So I like to help people around me as well

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00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 4: when when needed. Dogs plural, Yes, we just got We

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00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 4: just got another puppy. So we have a Golden Rechiever

913
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Speaker 4: and a German Shepherd.

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Speaker 2: What is your guilty pleasure when it comes to food?

915
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 2: What do you have a hard time saying no to?

916
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: Salty sweets like assaulted caramel? Oh that's that's a tough

917
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: one to pass up.

918
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Speaker 1: How about it? Take five? If you had to take five, I.

919
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 4: Have it in a while. You ever had a watch

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00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 4: you might call it? Oh? Yeah, yeah, are good too?

921
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

922
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Speaker 2: I like the combo of salt and sweet. I'm with you, yes,

923
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Speaker 2: that's why I like to take five. It's got the

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00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: pretzel hidden in the candy box.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that, all right.

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Speaker 2: Final fun fact for Logan Wilson. If you could meet

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Speaker 2: anybody in history, athlete, entertainer, statesman, whatever, who would that be?

928
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Speaker 4: I would say The Rock.

929
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Speaker 2: The Rock, Yeah, for the wrestling or the acting, I.

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Speaker 4: Would say the acting.

931
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Speaker 3: And this is the way that he handles his business,

932
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Speaker 3: like he's always it seems like he's always in the

933
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Speaker 3: weight room managing all of his acting stuff whatever, you know,

934
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Speaker 3: whatever he's got going on in his life, he always

935
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 3: seems to find a way to I don't know that's

936
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 3: also from a social media perspective, of course, but he

937
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 3: just seems like a very down to earth dude. I

938
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Speaker 3: also know a guy who was on the Titan Games

939
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 3: and so who got to be He actually to meet

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00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 3: him and he said he's a very down to earth guy,

941
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Speaker 3: which is which is awesome.

942
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 4: I like, I really enjoyed being around people like that.

943
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Speaker 1: So well.

944
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: The Rock was a college football player at the University

945
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Speaker 2: of Miami, so a similar career could be in your future.

946
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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know how well I do

947
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 4: it acting, but you know, we never know. We'll see.

948
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Speaker 2: All right, you're off the hot seat. I appreciate your time,

949
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Speaker 2: best of luck.

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Speaker 1: The rest of the year.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much.

952
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Speaker 2: His girlfriend at that time, Morgan, became his wife and

953
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 2: their daughter was born in Cincinnati in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: As Logan put it at the end of his retirement announcement,

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