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Speaker 1: You are listening to What in the Winkler and iHeartRadio podcast. Hi,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to another episode. Don't look at me when

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Speaker 1: I'm doing it. What in the Winkler. I am so

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Speaker 1: excited because today we have two well three actually, because

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Speaker 1: you're a guest too. We have three incredible guests who

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Speaker 1: are very, very very close to my heart. We have

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Speaker 1: my dad, Henry Winkler. We have Ron Howard and Bryce Howard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited and I'm so grateful, So thank you

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Speaker 1: guys for doing this.

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Speaker 3: Not corny, but I don't think I would have imagined

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Speaker 3: when I, like the moment you were born, that I would,

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Speaker 3: you know, one day be sitting on the couch and

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Speaker 3: you'd be hosting a podcast.

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Speaker 2: I didn't either, but that brings up my first prop.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: So when Ron and I did Happy Days, there was

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Speaker 2: a kind of a shelf outside of our yes and

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Speaker 2: we put our coffee cups or a water bottles on

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Speaker 2: it as we went through the swinging doors before we

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Speaker 2: made our entries. At the end of Happy Days, I

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Speaker 2: took that.

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Speaker 3: Shelf that is so smart.

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Speaker 2: And realized I wrote on it for almost the entire series.

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Speaker 2: Then I had people sign it like Ron, Gary Marshall,

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Speaker 2: and Marion. But let's see, this is very important because

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Speaker 2: Ron said I had a daughter today right there on

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. The I wrote it August thirty first,

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Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy nine. Ron found out he was going

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Speaker 2: to be a father. I found out I was going

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Speaker 2: to be a father on eight fifteen, seventy nine, and

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Speaker 2: here are our two daughters, and I wrote down the

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Speaker 2: start of each season beginning what happened. So there it is,

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Speaker 2: there's my board.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, incredible, because you guys basically grew up together.

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Speaker 2: Kind of we did.

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Speaker 3: It was the it was it was certainly my coming

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Speaker 3: of age story. It was you know, it was it

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Speaker 3: was all around that show. And uh, you know, and

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Speaker 3: we're still close. We still we still check in, we

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Speaker 3: still keep track of one another. But we learned so

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Speaker 3: much because you know, we went from well I learned

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Speaker 3: a lot from you, well vice versa.

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Speaker 4: I mean it, No, Yeah, Dad always talks about how

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Speaker 4: much he learned from you. Henry do you run?

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Speaker 1: But you have to have the microphone closer to oh okay, okay.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say the same exacting.

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Speaker 3: Thing, but uh, Tom Bosley was like giving us all

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Speaker 3: this guidance. He would get around and say, now do

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Speaker 3: you have what? What kind of insurance?

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Speaker 1: Do you?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: No idea what he was talking about.

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Speaker 3: We learned, you know, and oh, you're gonna buy You

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Speaker 3: need to buy something, you need to own something. Right

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Speaker 3: and slowly, but surely we all started to actually buy things.

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Speaker 2: We did. Then we bought a house.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then you had animals? Yes, yes, you had a monkey.

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Speaker 3: We did, Sugar.

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Speaker 2: Did you have ducks?

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Speaker 3: No, we didn't have ducks.

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Speaker 2: No, no ducks.

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Speaker 3: Later we had some goats.

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Speaker 1: Wait, what was your monkey's name, Sugar?

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Speaker 3: Sugar? Yeah, sure, a wooly monkey, which we wouldn't have.

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Speaker 3: I mean it wouldn't be legal.

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Speaker 5: Which is never should have happened, never ever should have happened.

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Speaker 1: Well, Wi brings us to our next subject, which is Pets,

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Speaker 1: which is Bryce's documentary that is coming out on April eleventh.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 2: Called Pets.

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Speaker 3: Can I just be a dad and say it is great?

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Speaker 1: Tell us about it, Bryce, it's good.

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Speaker 2: It's so good.

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Speaker 5: You tell us that my my phone is ringing, so

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Speaker 5: I'm just going to quickly shut that off or disconnected somehow.

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Speaker 5: Someone there is another adult in the household, who can

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Speaker 1: Oh wait before we talk about Pats. Well, so my

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Speaker 1: father is Brace's godfather and he and he was there

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Speaker 5: So, like Henry's always been in Stacy have always been

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Speaker 5: the most incredible godparents, very supportive, everything kind of everything

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Speaker 4: Like there's like.

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Speaker 5: Handy everywhere in the house house, and like Zoe, you

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Speaker 5: a little bit in that department.

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Speaker 1: I was way, way, way, way way faster than Bryce.

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Speaker 5: But I definitely, I definitely was had a little bit

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know which one's better, because I was

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Speaker 1: a disaster.

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Speaker 2: No, but I will say well that Bryce, what whatever

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Speaker 2: to lunch in a two thousand. Yeah, and you were

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Speaker 2: at school with Seth. Yeah, And you said, and I

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Speaker 2: him to pay attention to me? I said, Bryce, all

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Speaker 2: you have to do is breathe You're beautiful, you're talented,

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Speaker 4: It's it's honestly true, Henry.

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Speaker 5: I I I saw Seth and I and I broke

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember for the wedding.

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Speaker 5: I was with that friend and and he looked at

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Speaker 5: me and he was like, WHOA, what just happened to you?

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Speaker 4: Because he saw me like just like burst into just

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Speaker 5: Hives and all the friend the friend, my friend saw

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Speaker 1: And we both have read so with red hives, red hair,

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Speaker 4: It's a nightmare. And I and I pointed at Seth

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Speaker 5: And I went home and I wrote in my journal,

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Speaker 5: I met the man I'm gonna marry.

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Speaker 4: The thing was, I didn't really properly meet him. I

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Speaker 5: And I told all of his friends how much I

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Speaker 5: by it, like genuine like genuinely alarmed. And I never

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Speaker 5: who got married in Atlantic City and they were having

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Speaker 5: a nullment party, and so they were they were having this.

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Speaker 5: Like what does one where to like an annulment Brooklyn party?

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Speaker 5: And and so I wore my prom dress, which was

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Speaker 5: too much. It was it was too much, and he

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Speaker 4: He was like, oh cool, because he knew I was,

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Speaker 5: This is when Henry was saying, but that didn't work

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Speaker 4: That fizzled out on its own.

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Speaker 5: But but what ended up No, no, it didn't need to,

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Speaker 5: happening was for yeah, months and months truly, I was

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Speaker 5: pining for him, and I went and saw him at

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Speaker 5: uh at a show he was doing. He did a

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Speaker 5: production of Light Sensitive, and he was just so amazing.

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Speaker 4: I just couldn't get him out of my head.

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Speaker 5: And I went home that night and I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 5: I went to a midnight showing by myself of Hannibal

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Speaker 5: back from Hannibal it was two am. Called my friend

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Speaker 5: who I knew had his information. Was like, Mary, you

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Speaker 5: I know you don't drink Bryce, so I know that

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Speaker 5: you're not like good going to be like drunk dialing him,

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Speaker 4: I left a message and I was.

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Speaker 6: Like, how you on the Redhead. You know, I'm Bryce

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Speaker 6: and we have a lot of friends in common. We

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Speaker 6: should go out sometime. The message, as you can imagine,

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Speaker 5: Dane Sharbonneau, and Dane listened to the message and was like, no,

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Speaker 5: it's fine. Dane later became writing partners and I set

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I went.

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Speaker 5: I went out with Seth and we had our first

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Speaker 4: They like totally are all part of like Max's Crew,

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Speaker 4: and and we we had our like first kiss.

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Speaker 5: Seth was like on his way to go and and

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Speaker 5: we we had our first kiss.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's a whole other story.

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Speaker 5: But basically it was it was really elaborate and complicated,

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Speaker 2: Elaborate and complicate, the kiss.

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Speaker 4: The courtship, the court court one more ship.

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Speaker 3: So then, so she really didn't talk about guys a lot,

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Speaker 4: But no, I decided I wasn't going to date until

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Speaker 3: And so she started she started mentioning this guy and

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Speaker 3: and and you could just tell that, you know, that

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Speaker 3: she was really smitten, looked like she was in love

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Speaker 3: to chryl and and me. And then it was do

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Speaker 3: you want to come see him in a play? He's

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Speaker 3: the best actor at YU. Come see him in this

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Speaker 3: play and meet him afterwards. Sure, okay, we'll go. And

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Speaker 1: People ask me all the time, you know, like you

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Speaker 1: That it's really it's family based. I mean, being a

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Speaker 2: I literally said, my problem growing up was I was

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Speaker 2: at that dinner. Bryce said, Hey, do you mind if

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Speaker 3: Well turned out. I've really enjoyed working with stories based

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Speaker 3: know what the outcome is, they don't know what the

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00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 3: emotional cost might have been. They don't know what you know,

447
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 3: what was entailed and actually getting over that, over that

448
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 3: finish line. But you know, one of the things that

449
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 3: by the way. Bryce was a great PA on Apalla thirteen.

450
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 3: She was one of these kids like she They had

451
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 3: to actually give her a walkie talkie on Far and Away.

452
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 3: I think she was ten because she was just nagging

453
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 3: the assistant director so much and she' said and finally

454
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 3: they let her have a walkie talkie and so stand

455
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 3: over by the experts and pass a couple of messages.

456
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 4: And I was thinking Bill the other night for that,

457
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 4: who was a PA on that? As well? Who's now

458
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 4: your first ad?

459
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 3: But the one thing we wanted was we didn't want

460
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 3: the kids to feel compelled to have to be in

461
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 3: the business, right And I think that's what we felt

462
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 3: is that it was our world. This became an industry

463
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 3: town because all of our friends were in it.

464
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: People when everybody we know wants to do something.

465
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 3: That's right and talk to us about it, and which

466
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: was great and exciting, but I feared it would be

467
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 3: pretty overwhelming for the kids and they would feel it

468
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 3: kind of a pressure. Bryce pursued it because she loved

469
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 3: the process, and it became clear at a certain point

470
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 3: I didn't think she was necessarily going to be interested

471
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Speaker 3: in acting. I didn't see, you know, a performer's energy

472
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 3: around her. She was just a great kid. But I

473
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 3: used to say, well, you know what she's I don't

474
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 3: know that she's ambitious. She's really people love her. She's

475
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 3: gonna be great in retail. I'd like to see a scarf,

476
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 3: and she would, she would.

477
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 4: She could find you exactly the one for you.

478
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 3: And and you know and and uh uh uh Bryce

479
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 3: and her sister Page have pursued it. Uh read and

480
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 3: Jocelyn not not not at all, no interest whatsoever. And

481
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 3: have you know, very fulfilling lives. I'm I'm curious about about.

482
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 4: The wind, so curious.

483
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 3: Well did you feel I mean, you know, Max threw

484
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 3: himself into did you feel like that was something you

485
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 3: were supposed to chase?

486
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 4: No?

487
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Speaker 1: I didn't, And I never felt I knew that I

488
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: really wanted to be a teacher. That was like the

489
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 1: number one thing. When I was younger, I was obsessed

490
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: with Madonna and I just wanted to be famous, but

491
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: I didn't really want to pursue it. And then once

492
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: I started kind of finding my passion in teaching and

493
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, I I loved it and

494
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: I loved I love being a mom. And then when

495
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: this opportunity came up. I was excited, but I was

496
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: also nervous because I never really put myself out there

497
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: ever like that.

498
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: And so but let me just say a little story.

499
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: I'm driving all of a sudden there's a car next

500
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 2: to me here in La. The man says, put your

501
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: window down. He said, are you Zoe Winkler's father? I

502
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: said yes. He said, my daughter gets up in the

503
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: morning to go to school because she is her teacher.

504
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: So I know the craziest thing. So I went to

505
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,719
Speaker 1: this pop up burger place last Thursday, no kidding, yeah,

506
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 1: I was, and this this girl comes up to me,

507
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: an adult and says Zoe. And I looked at her

508
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: and it was Rachel Grode, the father, her father, that

509
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: was the child that and everyone was Sarah Mayah was

510
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: there and she was like, how do you know her?

511
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: And I was like, I was her teacher. She's a

512
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: full adult. And she was like, you're an icon.

513
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 3: When when I when Henry told me you were, you

514
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 3: were you were, that's what you were pursuing. It made

515
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 3: so much sense. Cheryl and I I went to.

516
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 2: Is it her?

517
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: I loved it.

518
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: So it was amazing to watch her with these children

519
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: teaching them. By all of a sudden, Zoe went. I

520
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: was sitting there and got into an argument with her

521
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: fellow teacher, her co teacher, and then and then they

522
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: resolved it. I got in an argut, Yes, and it

523
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: was a lesson.

524
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 1: You were we were acting okay, but I didn't know right,

525
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: we were right? Did you really think we were just pulling?

526
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 2: I don't know what I've done.

527
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 3: Yes, bought it.

528
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 4: It's true though, It's true because.

529
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 5: I you actually like as a teacher, you are a legendary.

530
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 5: Because I I would hear because I became a really

531
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 5: young parent, like you know, who was surprise for everyone,

532
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 5: and and so I was I had THEO at twenty five,

533
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 5: and so you were.

534
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 4: Still so young. It was so insane. You were still

535
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 4: you were teaching then.

536
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I would hear, like in mom groups and stuff,

537
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 5: I would hear about you, and I would be like,

538
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 5: oh my god, that's my godsister, and everybody love love

539
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 5: loved you.

540
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 4: They're like, oh my god, she's the best teacher. She's

541
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 4: the best. Oh my god, I love her. I love her.

542
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 4: I love her like you know, and good things about

543
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 4: the school.

544
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 3: But it was.

545
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 5: Always really really centered on you. Truly truly you guys.

546
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, total, total star.

547
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: But this show makes sense too because you've always been

548
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: a great conversationalist, great conversational spirit. True great. You know,

549
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 3: people want to talk to you.

550
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting to hear about other people in

551
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: their lives and you know, get into conversations that you

552
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: never thought you'd even get into. Like with you guys,

553
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: it's so comfy. But for a stranger, it's you know,

554
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: to hear about what their experience is. It's so interesting.

555
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: I think, well, what is good? We realize we're all

556
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: the same, that we look different, we do different things,

557
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: we are different religions, whatever it is. But underneath all

558
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: of that, you hear the story.

559
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: Go I can relate. Yeah, which is such a beautiful thing. Grace.

560
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: Do any of your kids want to go into acting?

561
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 5: I mean it's definitely like like THEO is definitely on

562
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 5: the filmmaker track in a big way.

563
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 3: And and and in summer camp, everybody wanted him to

564
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 3: act in their films.

565
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 5: Well yeah, he was like like they did like a

566
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 5: silly a sort of like silly awards ceremony and one

567
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 5: of the things was like yeah in in it involved.

568
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 4: In the most movies of any kid.

569
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 3: And my brother, my brother Clint had My brother Clint

570
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 3: had dinner with him the other night and he texted

571
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 3: me and he says, I know, his film is great.

572
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 3: He's got a film that was just accepted at a

573
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 3: festival intulations and uh and you know, and that's that's terrific.

574
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 3: But with that, with his eyes and bone structure, I

575
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 3: don't know how they're going to keep him out in

576
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: front of the camera.

577
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a very.

578
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 1: Handsome, but I didn't even know. I thought he was, like, uh,

579
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: he's a really amazing rock climber. Yes, so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

580
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: And that well, I mean that's the thing that's never.

581
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 5: That's like the secret the sort of like secret thing

582
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 5: in our family because we're all such dorks. But both

583
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 5: my parents are super athletic, and both sets of grandparents

584
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 5: were really like you know, granddad, but both grandparents or

585
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 5: both grandfathers were athletes and kind of considered being professional athletes.

586
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 5: And my miss that I think, yeah, so that howards,

587
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 5: We all we all love that sort of stuff, like, yeah, no,

588
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 5: my brother's not so much.

589
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: I never played ball. I'm so dyslexic. I have no

590
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: eye hand coordination. And on the set. Ron Howard bought

591
00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: me my first mint, my first baseball mint at twenty eight,

592
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: and I loved it. But all I could do was pitch.

593
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 2: And my catcher when we played on Sundays was Clint Toward.

594
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 3: And Clint came in and because Henry was it's very physical.

595
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 3: He can dance, he can move, he's great. Yeah, and

596
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: he said.

597
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: I can't play ball.

598
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 3: I can't play ball, and I knew it was it

599
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: was slow pitch softball, and I just felt like he

600
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 3: can pitch. He can.

601
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely, You're such a good friend. Honestly, even the way

602
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: you're talking about it, You're just like such a good friend.

603
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: We should really know each other.

604
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: So I got him the glove. Clint came over and

605
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: around the seat and start, you know, and start of coaching.

606
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 2: And in between scenes, they taught me to pitch, and

607
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: Anson Williams, who played Pazzi, gave me my first bat.

608
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 3: But I got to tell you. We then started playing

609
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 3: games that were in front of large crowds before major

610
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 3: league games, and we would travel around and because we

611
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 3: were a number one show, oh, big crowds would come

612
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: and and they would play this. We'd play the sixth

613
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 3: inning game against usually radio the Mets wives and wives

614
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 3: radio celebrities. Usually there were very easy games for us

615
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: to win because we did want to win, and we

616
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 3: and for.

617
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,959
Speaker 2: The most part, very competitive.

618
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 3: And but one game in Philadelphia, they start, they put

619
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: they put not baseball players, but they put athletes against this,

620
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: hockey players in ex retired NBA players and stuff like that.

621
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 3: Vera and I said, oh, this is going to be tough.

622
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 3: And Clint said to me, Henry can get them out.

623
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: And we won that ball game two to one. You

624
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 3: did two to one, and Henry was was getting these

625
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: professionals to pop up because Clint would find the right

626
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 3: position and hint, Henry would.

627
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: Get the Clint talked me through it. We played against

628
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: all stars here in LA and one of the all

629
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: stars we played against was Magic Johnson. I remember that

630
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 2: are how hard name member of our team hit that ball.

631
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: All that man did was put his hand up. Yeah.

632
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 3: He played third base and at one point he grabbed

633
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: a ground ball at six', nine he played third. Base

634
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: he grabbed a hot grounder a third and it was

635
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 3: a double play situation and he literally whipped it behind

636
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 3: his back to the second. Baseman, yes and he then

637
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: threw it onto first to complete the complete the to.

638
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: Tell jewels that you're that you were a. PITCHER i

639
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: didn't even know he's a. Pitcher oh, YEAH i love.

640
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: THAT i could not catch the, ball so when the

641
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: ball was hit toward, ME i turned my body and

642
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 2: stopped the ball with my. BODY i was black and

643
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: blue for seven.

644
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: Years as kind of a Tai chie approached the fielding.

645
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: Base, yes were you guys always close like from the.

646
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: Beginning from the, BEGINNING i knew THAT i was twenty

647
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 2: seven WHEN i Met, ron who was a team And

648
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: ron had a wisdom about him THAT i talk about

649
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: all the, time this depth of. UNDERSTANDING i hit My

650
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: this is a Story i've TOLD i hit my script

651
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i couldn't tell a. Joke AND i came from

652
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: the theater AND i was doing a series AND i

653
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: was hitting my. Script And ron put his arm around,

654
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 2: me walked me to the back of the sound stage and,

655
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 2: said you, know the writers are working as hard as they.

656
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: Can let's not hit the. SCRIPT i, Said, RON i

657
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: will never hit the script as long AS i.

658
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 3: Live BUT i LOVE i loved it BECAUSE i, Mean

659
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 3: i've Been i've been acting all my life And i'd

660
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 3: been acting with good piece were three, yeah and and and,

661
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 3: uh you, know and The Andy Griffith show looked easy and.

662
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: Relaxed there's a place of real discipline and, professionalism SO,

663
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 3: i you, KNOW i knew my way. Around And hen

664
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 3: it was like this light of. Intelligence he'd been To.

665
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: Yale he spoke about acting in a different drama. SCHOOL

666
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 3: i couldn't get in Undergraduate yale drama. Scale BUT i

667
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 3: also recognized THAT i was going to learn something and.

668
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 3: Grow and we and our timing was just instantly, comfortable.

669
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: Easy there was like a thread that was connected between.

670
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: Us we could take a scene at twelve o'clock at

671
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: night when we were doing our. Reshoots we could take that,

672
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: scene memorize, it rehearse, it improvise, it and shoot it

673
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 2: three times in twenty. Minutes there was never a word.

674
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: SPOKEN i went where he, Went he went WHERE i

675
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 2: went in the. Scene, oh it, was it was you

676
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 2: cannot even describe.

677
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 3: It. Yeah And Jerry, paris who was our brilliant, director

678
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 3: a great comedy. Director and to this, day even When

679
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: i'm staging almost any scene, Something i'll just it's Like

680
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 3: jerry's on my. SHOULDER a little bit about movement and

681
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 3: uh and motivated action and. Things but he knew. It

682
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 3: he knew we were great together AND u and he

683
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 3: was also.

684
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: Nuts he would wear a red sweater every show and

685
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: then if they gave him the microphone to talk to the,

686
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: audience he would, say, hey where are you From? Japan

687
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: keep your cars to. Yourself they literally, said it is

688
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: against the law to let that man have a. Microphone

689
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 2: they would come and take him.

690
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 3: Away but a brilliant, comedian, Brilliant HERE'S i got a.

691
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: QUESTION i, know here's here's A this is a sort

692
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 3: of a generational. Question i'm being asked this. Constantly, culture,

693
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 3: society our business is, changed and people are constantly saying to,

694
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 3: me how different is? This how do you compare this

695
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 3: to other? Periods and you, Know I've i've AND i

696
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 3: think about it AND i have AND i have answers

697
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: or a point of. View But i'm very curious how

698
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 3: you two women feel about, it and also You, henry

699
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 3: because you, know it's a it's a really it's a

700
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: it's a dynamic. Time it's terrifying in a lot of.

701
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 3: Ways but there's a lot going.

702
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 2: On, WELL i have an, answer no matter how different

703
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: the technology is no matter how different all of the

704
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 2: businesses WHICH, i because of my, dyslexia don't ever think

705
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: about WHEN i get a. Job my job is exactly

706
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: the same as it was in nineteen seventies when we

707
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 2: were doing our. Show the job of creating that character

708
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: of being in the moment is not. DIFFERENT i.

709
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 3: Agree the problem solving, process when you get granular about,

710
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 3: it is by.

711
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 2: Granular you've liked that, twice, well like like super, detailed you,

712
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: know like like don't put your hand there because that

713
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: blocks that photo that is supposed to be a.

714
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 3: Clue got? It you know that those kinds of things got?

715
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 3: It or timing, real real precise timing. ISSUES i, mean

716
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: there's a right way in the wrong way to execute

717
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 3: certain moments to achieve whatever the reaction is you want

718
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 3: from the. Audience AND i don't think that's changed very

719
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 3: much at all from my childhood working on live television

720
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 3: shows Like playhouse. Ninety WHEN i was Directing, cocoon they

721
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 3: had a local. Actor this was about senior citizens living In,

722
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 3: florida and we cast, actors great, actors but there there's

723
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 3: one small part and we, thought, WELL i wonder if

724
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 3: we can find somebody locally so we don't have to

725
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 3: fly them. In and we. Did we found a guy

726
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 3: from The chamber Of commerce who had. Acted he was

727
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 3: ninety six years, old still driving his. Car he worked

728
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: part Time, charlie and he had acting credits on his

729
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 3: resume from nineteen sixteen and nineteen. Seventeen this was nineteen eighty,

730
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 3: four while or eighty, five and so he came in

731
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 3: and he did his three or four, lines and it

732
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 3: was great to Have charlie. Around and at a certain,

733
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 3: POINT i was sitting there at. Lunch we had cranes

734
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 3: and steady cams and multiple cameras and you, know all special,

735
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 3: effects AND i, Said, charlie this must be. WEIRD i,

736
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 3: mean tell me what it's like compared to your. Experience

737
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 3: because he had been an actor who chose not to pursue.

738
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 3: It he wasn't a big. Star he'd been a working.

739
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: Actor but when everything moved To, california you, know there

740
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 3: used to be the center of it Was New york,

741
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: biographs studios and places like. That when all of that,

742
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: moved he just decided to, stay you, know and eventually

743
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 3: found his way down To florida and so. Forth but

744
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: he was a salesman all of his. Life BUT i, said,

745
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: well so tell, me tell me ab out this experience

746
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: all these years later on a set, again and he,

747
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 3: said you, know it's kind of the same old, bullshit

748
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 3: hurry up and, wait you, know he, said he, said

749
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 3: the only difference is that now you have to shut

750
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 3: up every time they roll the. Camera in the old,

751
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 3: days if you weren't in the, scene you could just

752
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 3: keep the card game going and no one. Cared there's no. Sound,

753
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 3: Uh AND i never thought of.

754
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: It what do you, Think, BRYCE.

755
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 5: I think that is absolutely. TRUE i completely agree with.

756
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 5: THAT i think that the economics around the industry have changed,

757
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 5: dramatically and you, know have since kind of on of

758
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 5: of the, industry you, know a little over one hundred years.

759
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 4: Ago SO i think that there were, uh.

760
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 5: It's it's a little WHAT i would say is just

761
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 5: from WHAT i observed from kind of like my Like

762
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 5: henry And dad and kind of like you, know what

763
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 5: you guys were, doing and then just stepping into it

764
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 5: as an, adult and then and then kind of over

765
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 5: the last twenty years of my professional, LIFE i think

766
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 5: that there's been a little bit of a journey where

767
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 5: it's like WHAT i feel like when you guys were coming,

768
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 5: up it's still it wasn't a thing where you were, like,

769
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 5: OH i want to make a zillion trillion dollars doing.

770
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 5: This it was really, like oh my, god someone else

771
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 5: is going to pay for the thing THAT i want to,

772
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 5: do like you, know and, Yeah i'll make minimum and that's,

773
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 5: Fine like that's, Cool like minimum's, Amazing and there was

774
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 5: a sort of not a there wasn't as much sort

775
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 5: of like financial. Ambition and then and THEN i think

776
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 5: there was things kind of blew up in the eighties

777
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 5: and nineties and the business expanded as a, result and

778
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 5: the contraction that we've, FELT i think it's mostly the

779
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 5: disillusionment that the folks who thought that you're supposed to

780
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 5: be making livings that are like beyond a lawyer or

781
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 5: a doctor or something like. That and it's, LIKE i

782
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 5: don't know when that became a, thing because it's you,

783
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 5: know if you're a lawyer or a, doctor you, know

784
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 5: the the investment that you need to put into your

785
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 5: own education and career and expertise is, immense and so

786
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 5: so it's it's basically a long winded way of saying,

787
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 5: that you, KNOW i think the art form is, is you,

788
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 5: know very connected to what it's always. Been it's a

789
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 5: very ancient art form and the economics around it have

790
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 5: changed a, lot and it kind of the folks who you,

791
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 5: know Like, henry Like, dad who are still in. It you're,

792
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 5: like you're like in it to win, it but not

793
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 5: the winning isn't isn't necessarily, like OH i need to

794
00:42:59,200 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 5: be a.

795
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 4: STAR i need to be winning An oscar every. YEAR

796
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 4: i need to you, know there.

797
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 5: Are these ants of, success, yeah or An, emmy but

798
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 5: it's you, know it's it's it's. True AND i AND

799
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 5: i really respect you, guys you KNOW I I i

800
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 5: really respect kind of your your.

801
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: Mindset let me ask you a. QUESTION i still love.

802
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: IT i so enjoy every detail of being on a.

803
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: Set do you feel that do you feel?

804
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,959
Speaker 4: That oh my, god, yes, yes it is.

805
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 2: That passion that.

806
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: Separates AND i wonder if that's maybe what's, rare you,

807
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: know like it used to be that that was the

808
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: that was the, commonality and NOW i think that that's

809
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: sort of the.

810
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: Rarity it might. BE i don't. KNOW i Sometimes i'm

811
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 2: sad that people who are, making who are giving the,

812
00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: money who are making the entertainment don't have the same

813
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 2: love for the process as opposed to the, business WHICH

814
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: i think you we were.

815
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 3: SAYING i think some of that has to do with

816
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 3: the fact that that in order to have a career

817
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 3: today this is both liberating but also a little. Terrifying

818
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 3: it's almost like no one aspect of your career is

819
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 3: necessarily going to feed your. Family that you probably need

820
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 3: to write and act and sing and the maybe you

821
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 3: could direct as, well and you better be, producing and

822
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 3: you better be. Entrepreneurial AND i think that puts a

823
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 3: lot of pressure on people and makes them think about

824
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 3: economics and the.

825
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 2: Business and you have to constantly reinvent. Yourself do you

826
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 2: know you, Cannot, Oh i'm not getting hired in this.

827
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: Area you've done that so many times.

828
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: And not sit there and, go, oh woe is? Me,

829
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: OKAY i have, Family i've got a, House i've got,

830
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: Dogs i've got To.

831
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: You've got me.

832
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: All that is the main REASON i. WORK i, EVER

833
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: i never saw anything like. IT a daughter with a credit. Card,

834
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: wait but let's talk about.

835
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: Pets let's talk about. Pets, YES i really want to

836
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: talk about it because it's so incredible AND i is

837
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: this like your first. Documentary, no, WELL.

838
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 5: I i did a. Documentary oh my, gosh perfect for this.

839
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 5: CONVERSATION i did a feature documentary Called dads and it, was,

840
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 5: uh you, know celebrating dads around the, world and AND

841
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 5: i got to to interview.

842
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 3: You haven't seen and dad love.

843
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 5: It you guys would just, you you guys would would

844
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 5: be uh, yeah, Yeah you're definitely in that demographic for,

845
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 5: sure in terms of in terms OF.

846
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: I was in it, Right, no, no.

847
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 4: No but But, henry.

848
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: You should Have that's.

849
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: TRUE i.

850
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 4: HAD i had Because Josh god is the godfather Of.

851
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: Why DON'T i have a? GODFATHER i don't have a?

852
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: Godfather don't is because We're?

853
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: JEWISH i have no idea that might have been.

854
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: Overset nobody wanted to take me on.

855
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 3: People we. Didn't we.

856
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 2: Did We we went around, people we. Strangers we have.

857
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 4: The.

858
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 5: Assumption the assumption Was zoe that if if your parents

859
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 5: are taking, us if my parents peace, out then we

860
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 5: would do the same for you.

861
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 4: GUYS i was.

862
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: What the thinks that you need to have multi hats

863
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: in order to survive and and? Provide he would have,

864
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 2: Had i'm not. Kidding he would have had to gone

865
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 2: into a hole of a.

866
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: Gift, okay, okay.

867
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 5: Yes So pets is my, second my second feature, documentary

868
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 5: and It. Disney it's gonna be On Disney Plus april,

869
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 5: eleventh and and it's it's celebrating the relationship you know

870
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 5: that that we all we you, know those of us

871
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 5: who have had pets in our, life.

872
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 4: We we, know we know what that.

873
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 5: Means AND i got to, highlight you, know folks who

874
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 5: were who who had really kind of like, unique, extraordinary

875
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 5: uh situations that they had set up in their, life

876
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 5: whether or not it's you, know in rescue or just

877
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 5: kind of you, know you, like kind of more personal.

878
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 5: Stories BUT i got to interview kids about, pets and,

879
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 5: that to me was one of the most fun Things

880
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 5: i've ever done in my entire. Life, just you, know

881
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 5: two days of interviewing children about about their their pets

882
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 5: and animals and and kind of like what their perspective

883
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 5: was on all of.

884
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 4: It and it was just, so.

885
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: Can you give us a tidbit a detail from that

886
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: from those?

887
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 5: Interviews, YEAH i mean it's from the little well there

888
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 5: is there's one one little boy Who, landon who had

889
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 5: the cleft, palate and he has a. Dog his parents

890
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 5: work in foster and adoption and foster, animals and they

891
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 5: got a foster dog who also had a cleft, palate

892
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 5: and so it was it was a foster, fail which

893
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 5: is which is that you, know they were like intending

894
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 5: for the dog to go to another home and they were, like,

895
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 5: no this dog is going.

896
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 4: Nowhere and and.

897
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 5: You, know their their relationship is so beautiful and kind

898
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 5: of what it what it meant to because they both

899
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 5: had to go through surgeries at the same time and

900
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 5: all of, that and they would help each other recover

901
00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 5: and and you, know there's just there are a million

902
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 5: of those stories.

903
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 3: And the individual stories are, amazing and she was SO i,

904
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 3: mean it took it took. Months she was, analyzing interviewing,

905
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,479
Speaker 3: people going through submissions to find people from really really

906
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 3: all over the all over the world who had very

907
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 3: special relationships with pets and the pets had had remarkable

908
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 3: impact on. Them so they're while every every story is incredibly,

909
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 3: relatable they're just. Surprising they're they're, funny they're they're, heartbreaking

910
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: they're you, know they're. Inspiring but she put in so

911
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 3: much uh time trying to find individuals with relationships with

912
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 3: animals that would you, know be fascinating to.

913
00:49:46,120 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: WATCH i can't. Wait that's. Wonderful that's. Wonderful how do

914
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: you choose your?

915
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 5: Subject, well IT'S i mean, there it's it's something THAT i,

916
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 5: mean you probably know. THIS i MEAN i was raised

917
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 5: in the household where they were just like it. Was

918
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 5: it was my my mom was really strict about everything

919
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 5: apart from.

920
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 4: Pets it was sort of, like, oh can you, know

921
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 4: can we go and adopt some?

922
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 5: Kittens and my mom would like, yes where pretty much

923
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 5: everything else was a hard, no you, know and uh

924
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 5: and so and so just kind of Being AND i

925
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 5: was sort of raised on like a like a you,

926
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 5: know a farm ish sort of, environment and and that

927
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 5: was just incredibly impactful to me growing. Up and so

928
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 5: my relationships with with the pets in my life or

929
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 5: some of the kind of the deep relationships THAT i,

930
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 5: have AND i just wanted to to celebrate.

931
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 4: THAT i, mean interestingly, enough there are.

932
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 5: People have like there are more people that have pets than,

933
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 5: children right, which.

934
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: And sometimes like pets become their. CHILDREN i, mean you

935
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: know it's like A i, mean my parents dogs sleep

936
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: with them every night in their, bed.

937
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 3: And sometimes the pets kind of become the. Parent, YEAH

938
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:27,959
Speaker 3: i have a hard.

939
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 2: TIME i have a hard time with people wheeling their

940
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 2: pets in baby characters down the. STREET i don't know

941
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: WHY i live in health Wheel. AWAY i don't know

942
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 2: why that does not touch, me but it bumps me

943
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 2: a little bit.

944
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 5: Too, boys, boys you're going to have a problem with my,

945
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 5: documentary then.

946
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: This is Gonna YES i, Am i'm.

947
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 1: Going to be. OKAY i was saying to your dad about.

948
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: Pets it's like you you know that they're not gonna

949
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: like you're gonna outlive the. Pet that's usually how it,

950
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: works but you keep doing, it and it's a love

951
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: that you can't even, describe you, know like IT'S i,

952
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: mean our dog passed away right Before rob AND i

953
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: Got oh, no she was still, light right before we Had.

954
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 1: Ace But rob in his on our wedding day put

955
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: a you're at our, wedding remember he put a picture

956
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: of his. Dog his sister surprised him with a picture

957
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: of his dog in his.

958
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 3: Suit.

959
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: Maya you, know it's just like this love that it's

960
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 1: it's universal for most people unless you're full.

961
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 2: Psychopaths she, was but this dog was special Because rob

962
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: AND i my son in, law would take his Dog

963
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 2: maya and our dogs the beach because there was a

964
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: dog beach in law beach down the road and her

965
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 2: his dog was But. Chess it's like she owns.

966
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: And their dog jumped out of the car on the

967
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: freeway and my dad was driving and just simply stopped

968
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: in the middle of The rob was, like, no, no, No,

969
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: henry you got to keep. Driving you got to pull

970
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: over the. Side And dad was, like, no, no, NO i.

971
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: CAN'T i just stopped in the middle of The rob

972
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 1: ran out in the middle off and ran After, charlotte

973
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: but my dad. Paralyzed rob was, LIKE i can never

974
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: do that again with your. Dad it's like literally LIKE

975
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: i just well do that.

976
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 2: Again with the windows. Open you could go with. ME

977
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: i cannot.

978
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: Wait i'm so excited to show my kids. Pets thank.

979
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 5: You, YES i mean it's and And henry, asked, like

980
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 5: how do you choose these? Subjects it's like you, YOU

981
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 5: i want to choose something that is many human beings

982
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 5: as possible relate To, yeah you know and and so.

983
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 5: Yeah WHEN i learned that they're that that folks, have you,

984
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 5: know more people have pets than than, CHILDREN i was, like, oh,

985
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 5: okay so that's you, know that's a. Topic that's that's

986
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 5: something that that people can hopefully see.

987
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 2: Themselves, well you have two incredible. Children you.

988
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 4: Do thank, you thank, you thank.

989
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 6: You And.

990
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 5: ZOE i just wanted TO i, MEAN i, KNOW i don't,

991
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 5: know are we supposed to be done or. SOMETHING i

992
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 5: wanted to ask you a question BECAUSE i do feel

993
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 5: just for. You we were talking about like how the

994
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 5: industry changed and all of, that and just with, you

995
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 5: just you, know coming from a background in education and

996
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 5: specializing with you, know kids and young kids in, particular

997
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 5: and just as like the super mom that you are.

998
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 4: Raising you, Are oh you, Are? Zoe you? Are you?

999
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 4: Are you? Are come, on you.

1000
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 5: Are and so it's, like what are you sort of

1001
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 5: seeing change and what we're grappling with and whether or

1002
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 5: not it's like local To Los angeles or an industry

1003
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 5: specific town or, Not like what are?

1004
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 4: You what are you kind of seeing right?

1005
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: NOW i think it's like at a point AND i

1006
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: don't know that this IS i don't know if it's

1007
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: just In Los. ANGELES i can only speak To Los

1008
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: angeles because that's where we are and that's Where i'm

1009
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: raising my. Kids and after being around and living in

1010
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: this world for my whole, life our whole, lives you.

1011
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: Know we were born into this you know sort of

1012
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: place with parents that were not only you, know actors

1013
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: and directors and all the, things but also very very

1014
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: very recognizable and also come from a time where they

1015
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: were actually like you, know in people's homes and it

1016
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: felt very, familial and so it was like people felt

1017
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: like they knew and and NOW i think it's LIKE

1018
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: i don't know what it feels like with social media

1019
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: and all the, things and it feels less about the

1020
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: craft than it does about sort of like the end,

1021
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: result which is you, know looking a certain way or

1022
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,439
Speaker 1: being a certain, way or dressing a certain. Way, yeah

1023
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: it's all about, branding, which by the, way like is

1024
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: something THAT i just like had to meet with somebody

1025
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: about because IF i even want to keep doing a,

1026
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 1: PODCAST i got to figure that out for, me which

1027
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: is so, bizarre you, know but that is how. It

1028
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 1: that is how It. Now it's so much less about

1029
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: AND i don't mean this in a bad, way so

1030
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: this might, sound, yeah so much less about, talent and

1031
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: it's so much more about like the, vibe you know

1032
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: WHAT i, mean which is so very interesting foreign.

1033
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 2: Well vibe only lasts a little bit in like a,

1034
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 2: vapor it dissipates into the, air and talent and craft

1035
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: That ron was talking about lasts.

1036
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 3: Forever it's weird. Death we are definitely, in you, know

1037
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 3: a massive. Revolution i'm not saying, anything and not everybody doesn't,

1038
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 3: know but it's also kind of important to recognize that

1039
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 3: in other times in history when there have been whether

1040
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 3: it's The Industrial revolution or The, renaissance it's created a

1041
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 3: lot of, turmoil and it's changed a lot of, things

1042
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 3: and and and and it's and and it's all just

1043
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 3: heightened and exponential because tech moves that way in a new.

1044
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 3: Way and so you, KNOW i think things feel, destabilizing

1045
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 3: BUT i also feel like audiences will continue to tell

1046
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 3: us what it is they, want whether it's vibe or

1047
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 3: follow through or long form or short. Form but WHAT

1048
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 3: i WHAT i keep seeing is that somebody wants all of,

1049
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 3: it not and not it's not that one person wants

1050
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 3: all of. It it's that there are audiences for every

1051
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 3: single stylesibility talent based whether it's, theatrical whether it's juggling

1052
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 3: or singing or.

1053
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: Poetry, yeah and that people maybe also have the space

1054
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: now to find out what that, is and then to

1055
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,439
Speaker 1: find their audience. Themselves there's more of there is more

1056
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: of a, variety you. Know so so there's something for.

1057
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: EVERYONE i think at the bottom of it all. Tenacity

1058
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: it's your personal, will your passion that will, eventually if

1059
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: you build, it they will come.

1060
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 3: Whatever whatever the what the whatever the technology. ESTHETIC i

1061
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 3: totally agree with you.

1062
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 2: Know OH i love you.

1063
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: Guys thank you for doing.

1064
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 4: This you're just the.

1065
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: Best you have us on. Again, YEA i, WILL i,

1066
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: WILL i went.

1067
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 2: Too to everybody.

1068
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 4: In your, will same with. YOU i love you, also

1069
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 4: love you.

1070
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: Guys thank You.

1071
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 4: Dad all, right thank, you thank, you thank.

1072
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: You So april, eleventh, okay So Disney plastic

1073
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Speaker 3: By M hm