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Speaker 1: Can we talk about the game day fit?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean what you wear? I wore two

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Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, maybe that's the Josh McDaniels visors,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack

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Speaker 1: and Kyler, and we're on the quest to find the

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Speaker 1: greatest game of all time. On today's episode, we are

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Speaker 1: covering the infamous two thy fourteen AFC Divisional Round game

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Speaker 1: between the Patriots and the Ravens aka the Double Pass Game.

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Speaker 1: We've already done it. This will be our second time

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Speaker 1: doing it with who Josh McDaniel's the guy behind the

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Speaker 1: formations and the double pass, six time Super Bowl champion,

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Speaker 1: former head coach, our first head coach, and we're talking

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Speaker 1: what it takes for young qbs to succeed in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. Always talk about it. They have a bucket.

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Speaker 3: Guys all had a bucket, and yours was a big

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Speaker 3: bucket at the end, like you could handle whatever we

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Speaker 3: gave you. Well, when you take a young quarterback, it's

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Speaker 3: more like a cup.

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Speaker 1: Calling plays in two of the greatest comebacks of all time.

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Speaker 1: When I'm going over in motion, what's going through your mind?

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Speaker 3: It's not man and then when I saw the guy

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Speaker 3: we couldn't have drawn up like them playing a better

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Speaker 1: And what the hell is in that water at John

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Speaker 1: Carroll University? For all these goddamn coaches back at John Carroll?

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Speaker 1: Did Casario come in? And he?

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Speaker 3: When Chaplinsky and I got there, Cassio was a red

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Speaker 3: shirt freshman.

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Speaker 1: Redshirt freshman.

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Speaker 3: He's like the only guy in the history of Division

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Speaker 1: And we wrap it up by creating our swaggiest touching

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Speaker 1: fit of all time. Can't wait to read about this

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Speaker 1: in the comment section. You gotta stick around to the

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Speaker 1: very end. Let's go Games and Names of the production

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Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio January tenth, twenty fifteen, Jellet Stadium, Focks Pro, Massachusetts. Jules,

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Speaker 1: you need any lead up if we call the double pass? Nope,

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Speaker 1: I guess it's just time to dust off the old

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Speaker 1: thrown on. This is the double pass game, Josh.

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Speaker 4: Version you guys, man, you know who I played pickleball

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Speaker 4: with last night?

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Speaker 2: Gronk's brother, which one the Gordyah? Yeah, he's pretty good, dude.

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Speaker 2: He is, like it was s well.

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Speaker 1: First of all, he looks like an Olympic volleyball player. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And I'm like and I was like, all right, I

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Speaker 1: Flank.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like they pickled us one game and then we

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Speaker 1: But I was like, damn, Robbie is really good?

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Speaker 5: Is he?

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Speaker 1: Ye? I could see him being good. Robs good at

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Speaker 1: good he was at basketball? And I never knew he was.

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Speaker 1: I never I was like I could. I wouldn't have

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Speaker 3: I can imagine him dunking and like ripping the hoop down,

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Speaker 1: Shooter as he was. He won the shot contest, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I've talked about it on here. Teams know who was

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Speaker 1: State And really that's awesome, Logan Mankins. I couldn't have

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Speaker 1: I played against Orlando Pace in high school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude never went inside the three point line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was unbelievable. I'm like I was.

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Speaker 2: I was looking at him, going, dude going down to

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Speaker 1: Who else you played with? Welcome to Games with Names.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into this real quick. Welcome to Games with Names.

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Speaker 1: Today we are looking at the two thy fourteen AFC

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Speaker 1: Divisional Round game, the double pass, the Ravens versus the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Here with Josh McDaniels, the guy who gave him my

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Speaker 1: guests in one sentence, why did you pick this game?

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Speaker 1: I think this was probably my favorite home game that

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Speaker 2: It's in the top It's certainly in the top five

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Speaker 1: What's life looking at right now? What are you doing

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Speaker 2: Different? You know, different in a good way. Two kids

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Speaker 3: My sons get ready to play a sophomore year at

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Speaker 3: John Carroll Football. He's playing in the slot receiver, so

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Speaker 3: I'm probably as healthy as I've been in twenty years.

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Speaker 1: Is that that's what's keeping the weight down. You look,

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Speaker 2: Well I was getting a little fluffed the other way.

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Speaker 1: You know that people don't realize the coach's life. The

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Speaker 1: Their end of the bargain. Yeah, Now, what are these

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Speaker 2: Know, like like literally like like he he was so

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Speaker 3: And it was like he and I get there and

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Speaker 3: So like if we ended up all right, he's gone,

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Speaker 3: then I you know however that goes. But he red shirted,

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Speaker 2: Nick was the backup, and I was the third string.

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Speaker 1: Of the year.

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Speaker 3: Nick did a good job, and he was a really

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Speaker 3: attention on the quarterback position. So if they're not talking

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Speaker 3: about your arm angle, they're talking about your footwork. If

438
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Speaker 3: they're not talking about that, they're talking about your eyes

439
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Speaker 3: or your read or how you navigated the pocket. And

440
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Speaker 3: there's a lot of things that go into playing it well.

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Speaker 3: But I I at the end of the day, I

442
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Speaker 3: think you got to take the player where he's at.

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Speaker 1: You know, when he comes in.

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Speaker 3: Whether that was Castle or Garoppolo or Stidham or Brissett

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Speaker 3: or mac aidan O'Connell, like, you got to take the

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Speaker 3: player where he's at. They're all at different spots, they

447
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Speaker 3: all have been taught different things. They've all you know,

448
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Speaker 3: digested different amounts of information. Some have played in different

449
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Speaker 3: systems than than yours. Some have played in maybe some

450
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Speaker 3: that were a little bit more like yours. And you

451
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Speaker 3: just got to figure out, all right, what do they know?

452
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Speaker 3: And I what am I going to try to you know,

453
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Speaker 3: push forward to get him to progress the quickest, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think I can get this and this done in

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Speaker 3: OTAs okay, great cadence play calls footwork all right, good

456
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Speaker 3: and in training camp you know, now I got to

457
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Speaker 3: get him to see different coverages and understand defenses a

458
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Speaker 3: little bit more, you know, protections, you know, and then

459
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Speaker 3: you know, move forward. You know, ball security, and then

460
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Speaker 3: the red zone is a different animal, and third down

461
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Speaker 3: and two minute offense.

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot of things that go into it.

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Speaker 3: But I think it's just having a really good feel

464
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Speaker 3: for where's the player at. Ye you know, can't just

465
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Speaker 3: keep throwing stuff at him. Always talk about it. They

466
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Speaker 3: have a bucket. You guys all had a bucket and

467
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Speaker 3: yours was a big bucket at the end, like you

468
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Speaker 3: could handle whatever we gave you. Well, when you take

469
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Speaker 3: a young quarterback, it's more like a cup. You know,

470
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Speaker 3: you got to put some some stuff in his cup,

471
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Speaker 3: and when it gets to the top, you got to stop,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, and then make sure that

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Speaker 3: he you know, got has this and he can.

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Speaker 1: Do it well.

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Speaker 3: And then okay, so then when he's ready for more

476
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Speaker 3: than you get him a bigger cup and then hopefully

477
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Speaker 3: he ends up with a bucket and you got a

478
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Speaker 3: bunch of stuff in there that you can do well.

479
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Speaker 3: But there's no shortcut. There's no shortcut to it. And

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Speaker 3: I think knowing where the players at is really important.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's now some you know a lot of people

482
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Speaker 1: have been talking about, you know, the systems in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: You got the West Coast system, then you have like

484
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Speaker 1: our system, the Charlie Weiss Patriot system, and they say

485
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Speaker 1: that the the West Coast system is pretty much it

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Speaker 1: protects the quarterback, the offensive linement, help with the protections everyone,

487
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Speaker 1: you know, everyone with the quarterback, you go where the

488
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Speaker 1: ball is supposed to go. It's step system for the receivers.

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Speaker 1: Is it harder to develop a quarterback in our system,

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Speaker 1: because that's what people are trying to say, than it

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Speaker 1: is in the West Coast system.

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Speaker 2: I think it depends on the way you look at that.

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Speaker 2: If the goal is just to.

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Speaker 3: Restrict the volume of responsibility that you place on him

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Speaker 3: right away, then it certainly could be. If at the

496
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Speaker 3: end of the day, your goal is to have him

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Speaker 3: understand how to handle all the problems and take care

498
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Speaker 3: of those things that come up in the big games

499
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Speaker 3: in order for him to help you win them, then

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Speaker 3: maybe it's worth it.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: That was always our mindset. Is basically what we're talking

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Speaker 3: about here is who's going to do the stuff prior

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Speaker 3: to the ball being snapped? Yea, All the quarterbacks have

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Speaker 3: to do the same thing. Once the ball is in

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Speaker 3: their hand. They got to understand what happened relative to

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Speaker 3: the protection or the pressures. They have to read the coverage,

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Speaker 3: they have to identify a guy that they think is open,

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Speaker 3: and make accurate throws and protect the ball like everybody

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Speaker 3: does the same thing once the ball snapped. Really, what

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Speaker 3: we're talking about is pre snap responsible.

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Speaker 1: Pre snap responsibility. That's it.

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Speaker 3: And so I always looked at it like a mountain,

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Speaker 3: like at the beginning, we're at the bottom, we're trying

515
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Speaker 3: to climb it. And at the beginning when you start

516
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Speaker 3: talking to him about making the calls and setting the

517
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Speaker 3: protections and dealing with the run game and all those

518
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Speaker 3: things that we, you know, we taught our players how

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Speaker 3: to do. You know, it's it's harder because it's foreign.

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Speaker 3: It's not that they don't understand it, it's just different.

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Speaker 3: And so at the beginning, they're at the bottom of

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Speaker 3: the mountain. You look up and you're like, God, damn,

523
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Speaker 3: that's a tall mountain, you know. But always felt like,

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Speaker 3: as we went through the first year, all right, you're

525
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Speaker 3: getting up the mountain. You know it, I know it,

526
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Speaker 3: we all know it. And then once you get to

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Speaker 3: the top of the mountain, now there's nothing left to

528
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Speaker 3: climb because you understand it. You understand how to manipulate

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Speaker 3: the protection, how to solve your issues in prep with

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Speaker 3: blood zero and those kind of things, and and and

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Speaker 3: just be able to to to do it at a

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Speaker 3: high level, you know, because I always thought, like, Okay, Tom,

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Speaker 3: everybody knows Tom's won a lot. Well, Tom did it

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Speaker 3: that way. Peyton did a lot too. You know, Peyton

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Speaker 3: won a lot. He did it that way.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I know that pats some you know, in some way,

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Speaker 3: shape or form. I'm able to handle some of those

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Speaker 3: things as well. I just think having the quarterback never

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Speaker 3: be responsible for any of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's some downside to it.

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Speaker 3: You know, other people might argue that that's not the case,

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Speaker 3: but I would say that, you know, there's there's pros

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Speaker 3: and cons to both.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I love the I love the idea of having the

547
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Speaker 3: quarterback able to understand it all.

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Speaker 1: I really do. I mean I did too. That's quarterback.

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Speaker 1: That's what you paid all goddamn money, you know, fun

550
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Speaker 1: five million dollars. Nowaday, can we talk about the game

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Speaker 1: day fit? What do you mean what you wear? Yeah? Well,

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Speaker 1: like for coaches, what what you know? Did I worked?

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Speaker 2: I wore two things specifically, what I like it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: maybe that's the Josh McDaniels vice. And I wore two things.

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Speaker 2: I did two things specifically.

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Speaker 3: The reason I did it was so my kids, because

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Speaker 3: we all look the same. Yeah, you go out there

558
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Speaker 3: and you have the same exact outfit, and it's like

559
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Speaker 3: when you have like a seven year old and a

560
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Speaker 3: nine year old and you know, and they're up there

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Speaker 3: in the stands and you know, somebody trying to So

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Speaker 3: initially I did the white visor and the white long sleeves,

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Speaker 3: you know, And that was the two things that I

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Speaker 3: told him.

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Speaker 1: I said, I'll that's you can see me. And then

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Speaker 1: then it just.

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Speaker 2: Stuck and it answers the other question that air monarchs

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Speaker 2: are just dad swag?

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Speaker 1: Is dad swag? Is? It is? What it is? I was,

570
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Speaker 1: I was, I was, I was.

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Speaker 3: You know, orthotics and everything I had. Guys, I hate

572
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Speaker 3: the I hate the narrow shoe like it drives me crazy.

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Speaker 1: I was right there with you. We were just messing around.

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Speaker 2: Now, this is our guy, Jeff Angler, Angler, Angler, so Angler,

575
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Speaker 2: this is this guy who makes orthotics.

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Speaker 1: Let me just tell you he comes up. The first off,

577
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Speaker 1: these orthotics are like thirty grand each. They're like that's

578
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Speaker 1: that's he's going over the top. Well for you, they're

579
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Speaker 1: probably be cheaper, but there, Yeah, the team was probably

580
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Speaker 1: know he was a cup of smaller. He made more

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Speaker 1: money than I did. But he would he would roll

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Speaker 1: up to Foxboro. He's from Pittsburgh. He rolled up in

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Speaker 1: his motor home and he'd bring out all these contraptions

584
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Speaker 1: and stuff and he'd be making your your your orthotics

585
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Speaker 1: like there was some band, like there's drills and drills,

586
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Speaker 1: but he'd be making tar and ship in like the

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Speaker 1: parking lot, which is like fully illegal. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I went to his house once to do so. You

589
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Speaker 3: know how he does a mold to your feet. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So I got to his office and he has literally,

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Speaker 3: when I tell you, he's got like if someone ever

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Speaker 3: broke in there, I'm God blessed.

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Speaker 1: Don't don't let that happen.

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Speaker 2: He's got people's feet.

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Speaker 1: That you wouldn't even imagine. Like I was looking at

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Speaker 1: him all and I'm like, oh my god, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Like we're talking like I mean, it's like, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, Ray Lewis and this guy and a golfer and

599
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Speaker 3: an NBA player and I'm not going to name it,

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Speaker 3: but it's like okay, and it was like it was

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Speaker 3: like I'm literally hundreds hundreds of feet molds.

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Speaker 1: Rex Ryan would have loved it. Yeah, he would have

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Speaker 1: loved it.

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Speaker 6: Bro, you make him sound like the Walter White of

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Speaker 6: orthotics cooking up.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what he was. He literally would roll up

607
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Speaker 1: in a motor home and he'd be cooking up these

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Speaker 1: guy damn orthotics in the back.

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Speaker 3: Well we were how many of us were hooked on that?

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Speaker 3: Like we didn't want to We don't want to get

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Speaker 3: them from anybody else.

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Speaker 1: Oh you couldn't. I still don't. Yeah, I me. I

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Speaker 1: still get them not making as much. Oh yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: just stay in the Rebuk sixteen people on here we

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Speaker 1: got This is a segment Josh, when we go back

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Speaker 1: into time around January tenth, twenty fifteen. We talk about

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Speaker 1: pop culture. We talk about pop culture. Remember one movie

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Speaker 1: was taking three of yours. I mean, if you have.

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Speaker 2: As good as taking one, but I mean no, But.

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Speaker 1: I think all these movies are pretty much they're just taking. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I watch them all and I love them. I'm

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Speaker 1: entertained every time.

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Speaker 2: He uses that that voice when he talks, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to give you an option.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. It's like a low voice and it's

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Speaker 1: like you just feel like you're going to let my

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Speaker 1: doughta go. That's right where I'm going to come and

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Speaker 1: find you very specific set of skills, exactly, that's right.

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Speaker 1: The number one song All about the Bass by Megan Trainer.

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Speaker 1: Daughter likes that song. It's all lot about that your

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Speaker 1: daughter does. Yeah, it's crazy. It's I know my daughters

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Speaker 1: liked it back then. It's it started. You know, we

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Speaker 1: just hit on the kid bop version, my boy, so

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Speaker 1: we don't we don't have to hit it. Hear anything

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Speaker 1: about booties and stuff, that's right, you know. Around this time,

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Speaker 1: David Letterman says goodbye after thirty three years night of

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Speaker 1: the Late Night Show that he was he was a

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Speaker 1: stud I never I don't. I didn't realize it was

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Speaker 1: this late. I thought it was more like early two thousands,

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Speaker 1: because when you were going on Late Show, it was

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Speaker 1: already Colbert, right, we went Colbert and then Allen Fallen.

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Speaker 2: So you didn't go on till literally after this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, after this year, after this year. Wow, he was great.

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Speaker 1: He was left Shark sweeps the Internet after Katie pe

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Speaker 1: one of those things like this. See you're kind of

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Speaker 1: like trying to do your old David either Day David

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Speaker 1: Letterman thing. I mean, you watch you got to watch

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Speaker 1: all the great look at them Our's third David Letterman.

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Speaker 1: There you go. W N Some great movies that came

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Speaker 1: out this year. American Sniper, The Hobbit, Battle of Five Armies, Interstellar,

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Speaker 1: all in theaters. I didn't see The Hobbit or the

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Speaker 1: I didn't see that American Sniper. Yeah, I saw that.

653
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: It was badass. That was a good movie.

654
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 8: He made so many pump up videos for you using

655
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 8: the Interstellar soundtrack.

656
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 7: You love that right around this time.

657
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: So these guys when he was playing, Yeah, these were guys.

658
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 7: We were around for a while. I've been around too long.

659
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: He needed he needed you to be making pump up videos.

660
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: I think I was making these these yes, highlight films.

661
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: I thought I thought you.

662
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: I thought you would race out of the building after

663
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: treatment and go home and like make a highlight video

664
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: of yourself.

665
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: Absolutely to Interstellar, Interstellar. Have you heard Hans Zimmer. He's

666
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: gonna be in LA next week or New York. I

667
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: want to go see him. He's a great soundtrack guy,

668
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: is he? Yeah?

669
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 8: Would would you see any of the content that he

670
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 8: would be putting out, like when he was playing.

671
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: No good good nothing, no nothing never, not even growing

672
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: pets on what on what?

673
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: The only thing I saw, The only thing I saw

674
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: that you did was that you and Dola were the

675
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: police officers.

676
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: I saw that. I did see that. Yeah, what did

677
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: you see? You know, you see them all, and you

678
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: see them all. You got kids come up.

679
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,719
Speaker 2: To be like My kids probably saw more than I did. Actually,

680
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: my kids there were I was leaving and they were like,

681
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: where are you going. I said, I'm going to Julian's

682
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: and they're like for what. I'm like, I'm like, I'm

683
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: going to do his podcast.

684
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 9: Like what are you really? Oh yeah, they're all excited.

685
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 9: They probably have seen that. Little McNuggets, Little McNuggets. What's

686
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 9: life like for Josh McDaniels in twenty fourteen.

687
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: During this time, I had four and I so my

688
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: littlest one just turned two, and then I had a

689
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: two of four, an eight, and a ten. So I

690
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 3: was in it, it in it, you know, and so,

691
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 3: and all of them are in grade school or not

692
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 3: yet in school. So those are good times. I mean,

693
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: you know when you had one but I mean like

694
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: those are cool times. There's not as much drama. Yeah,

695
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: you know, they're not into problems. They you know, have

696
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 3: minor issues.

697
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: Being a coach is tough man, you know, like having

698
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: to deal with those problems and then having to deal

699
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: with you know, the team.

700
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 3: Took two of mine to the Super Bowl this year,

701
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: and that was the last time I did that, last

702
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 3: time that I took two. Why because the other two

703
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,239
Speaker 3: were two and four? Yeah, So I'm like I I

704
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 3: you know, and then they all started going. You pay

705
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 3: three thousand dollars for them to watch like, you know, Mowana,

706
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 3: you know four times, you know what I mean, Like

707
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 3: it's the most expensive movie you've ever seen in your life.

708
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: So when we went to when we went to Houston

709
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 3: to play Atlanta, the night, you know, the night after

710
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 3: you win the championship game is so like you're having

711
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 3: all these conversations, right who you to get the tickets

712
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 3: to and who's coming and all that. And we were

713
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 3: sitting on the couch and I was like, what do

714
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 3: you want to do the girls? I'm like, just let's

715
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 3: just bring them all whatever. And so like we have

716
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 3: we have pictures like there, they have their iPads right,

717
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: thank god they were allowed to bring them in, you know,

718
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: and then headsets and they're just watching the games going on,

719
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, you know, but at

720
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: least after the game you have those memories, you know.

721
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: Those are great memories. Yeah, man, you seen all the

722
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: media Butterfly now Bill on TV lately. I've seen them

723
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: a little bit.

724
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,239
Speaker 3: I haven't seen like I mean, I saw him on

725
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 3: the draftee some of the draft with McAfee. I haven't

726
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 3: seen the recent McAfee's have been doing some other stuff,

727
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 3: but I mean I know he's doing a few things right.

728
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 8: Inside the NFL, inside the NF podcast.

729
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, McAfee, McAfee. So the first second week in September,

730
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: it will be a big week.

731
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 7: You know, yeah everywhere.

732
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: Two hardest fucking people, the two hardest people to get

733
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: on my goddamn podcast, Bill fucking a check guy that

734
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: I took a lot of pigs, nice nice pig days

735
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: for right, nice paydays. And then Tom. I knew you're

736
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,959
Speaker 1: gonna say, I can imagine Tom. Yeah, it was so tough.

737
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 1: But you know they'll go do McAfee show. Yeah.

738
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 6: Coincidentally, you see them, but they're the guys, you see

739
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 6: the most every every stinking podcast. He's getting a haircut

740
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 6: on a podcast.

741
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: Tom, I mean, what are we doing? What do we

742
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: need to do? What?

743
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 2: What does your podcast need to do?

744
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know.

745
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 6: We might need your help.

746
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 1: We might we might need you to text me. That's

747
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: what I was asking you. You know, like you know

748
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: I haven't you haven't you.

749
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 3: Have a board, like a board of trustees for this show,

750
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 3: and the.

751
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: Board Ernie, Ernie is our guy.

752
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 6: I like he remember the crew at this point.

753
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: What's what's your craziest Ernie story, Ernie?

754
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, that's that's a long there's some there's

755
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 3: a long list of us. Well, the when he took

756
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 3: the header before we played Atlanta, Like he took the header,

757
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 3: and the best was when he came back out and

758
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 3: he was bandaged like like a war like a.

759
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 2: Hero, and it was like we're still in practice. Remember

760
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 2: when he came back out, all the players started like

761
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: clapping for him, the slow clap for I was like, I.

762
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: Was like, what is going on?

763
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: I remember he was bleeding.

764
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 3: So then that night, you know, we practiced on it

765
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: and then every night we had a staff meeting, right

766
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 3: we go to the staff meeting.

767
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: Ern still got the bandage. He's still bandaged up. Like

768
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: it was like it was like a mass unit, the

769
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: same frestage. I don't know, I'm not going to comment

770
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 2: on that. I didn't change it, but I know this,

771
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: he still had the bandage, you know.

772
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: What I mean?

773
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 3: Like I would have got out of the bandage and

774
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 3: maybe put like you know, like like I don't know

775
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 3: what I would have put on, but it was, yeah,

776
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 3: like a hat or something.

777
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 2: But he was like, no, I'm gonna keep wearing the banded.

778
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: Hey, you gotta gotta you gotta coach Hurt. Yeah, you

779
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: gotta coach Hurt.

780
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 3: And is funny because you know, in a I have

781
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 3: a couple, Ernie. So when we were in the pre

782
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: the night before the Super Bowl in eleven, so we're

783
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 3: in the meeting, the staff meeting. This is the final

784
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 3: staff meeting prior to game day.

785
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: This is evening. You guys are curfew supper last up. Right,

786
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 1: there's a phone that rings.

787
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 3: Bill started to talk already, right, and that's when he's

788
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 3: like making like he's basically like, this is the last

789
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 3: thing we're going to talk about, right, and the phone rings,

790
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 3: and I'm like you know, at that point, you're just

791
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 3: hoping it in yours, right, And I always had mine

792
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 3: off anyway, So I'm like, Okay, I'm good.

793
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 2: And then I look over to the left and it's

794
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: Ernie's and he answers it like Bill's literally like where

795
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: you're at, and I'm where Ernie is and he he

796
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 2: he like looks down, he grabs it, looks at the phone,

797
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: then he flips it up and he started talking, and

798
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: I think it was Christine and he's like, he's like,

799
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: you know, tells her like basically.

800
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: He's in a meeting and I'll call her back.

801
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 3: And I'm going like, I'm like, there's only one person

802
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 3: in that staff meeting that could have done that and

803
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 3: not gotten like the death stare. And it was Ernie,

804
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: because if I'd have done that, Bill would have looked.

805
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: At me and wanted to just kill me. Oh my god.

806
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: But it literally he hung the phone up and I'm going,

807
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: oh my god, and Bill just kept going, just kept

808
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: going out. Then he put it.

809
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 3: He hated the whole like, you know, like the Nike

810
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 3: you know, you know he loved this read these rebox shoes.

811
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: Good good brand. Yeah, he loved these rebox shoes.

812
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 3: So when the league came out and made us wear Nike,

813
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 3: he just put tape over the Reebok logo on game

814
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 3: day and or his old rebacks for like fifteen years

815
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 3: or whatever whenever we went to Nike.

816
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: I don't remember when that was.

817
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: He's superstitious on the on the low because he wore

818
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: the same shit all the time, all the time, all

819
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: the time, all the time. Let's go back.

820
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 8: Well before we do that, what we're talking, Ernie, I'd

821
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 8: love to know two things from you. What was the

822
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 8: best nugget Ernie ever gave you? And what was the

823
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 8: worst nugget he ever gave you.

824
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 3: There won't be any worst nuggets, honestly, because he never

825
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 3: really he shared stuff with me, like he had video

826
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: and things from Montana like doing drill work, and he

827
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 3: really he was he had so much knowledge about almost everything,

828
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: you know, and so he really footwear, quarterback, play situations, adjustments.

829
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: He was just he always helped, always helped.

830
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 3: It wasn't always like like fifteen things, but there was like.

831
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: You mean to tell me, there hasn't been one Ernie

832
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: Card where you're sitting there, Ernie Card, Oh, well, that's

833
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: not a nugget.

834
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 3: If you're talking about Ernie cards, that's a whole different story. Yeah,

835
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: he was, does anybody do the viewers your car?

836
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: So Ernie would, he would, he would do all the

837
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: defensive cards right.

838
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 3: On Thursdays and it started on Fridays, That's when it started.

839
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 3: So it was like Bill would say, I got the

840
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 3: cards on Thursday night in the staff meeting, which meant

841
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 3: Ernie had them because Bill wasn't gonna draw him. Yeah,

842
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 3: you know, he had other things to do, and so

843
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: Ernie's Ernie's So Ernie would.

844
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 1: Draw the cards.

845
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 3: And it was like so we you know, as an offense,

846
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 3: we didn't know what was coming. Kind of more preparing,

847
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 3: you like to get ready for the game. Mike get

848
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 3: a blitz heer, Mike get coverage, Mike get something else,

849
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 3: who knows, and he he would always take it off

850
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 3: of like something they did. But there was times where like,

851
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: you know, as an offensive coordinator, you're like, we've had

852
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 3: a pretty good week so far, and like the last

853
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 3: thing you're looking for is like an absolute disaster on

854
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 3: Friday's practice, right, Yeah, No, they weren't. Fast Fridays in

855
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 3: New England were Championship Friday Championship May Championship Friday, and

856
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 3: so we would go. We would like, you know, we

857
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 3: would he would hand us the cards and I would

858
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: just ask one of the QC's like, do we have

859
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 3: any grenades in there?

860
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

861
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 3: Because they would like flip through it and he'd be like, yeah,

862
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 3: there's a few, you know what I mean.

863
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: It's just like, oh, man, what are we doing the defense?

864
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: And Tom, you know, Tom hated it.

865
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: Oh, he'd be like, that's not they don't.

866
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 3: Do that, you know what I mean, just like legitimately,

867
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 3: like get angry about it.

868
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: And I would be like, just let it, got it right,

869
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: let it go. I mean, we we get a play

870
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: call from when the defensive coordinator did it back at

871
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: UOP in nineteen eighty two when he was a defensive coordinator.

872
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: Quality control guy ran a blitz zero in this one

873
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: like the one time it was ever called in the

874
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: history of the game. But that guy was associated with it.

875
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: So we did it back. Do you have like a

876
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: marketing deal with these guys? Yeah? Clean, clean, clean, little

877
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: little electrolates in there to get keep that that water

878
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: in your muscle. Look at you, pH levels just have

879
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: less muscles. Now I'm older, I'm almost fifty. No, you're not.

880
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: I'm forty eight.

881
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 2: You look good, you're good man, I'm almost fifty.

882
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: Like Richard Green.

883
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 3: My little girl the other day, she looks she she

884
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 3: heard me say that because somebody had asked me how

885
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 3: old it was, and she stopped for a minute and

886
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 3: she's like, you mean to tell me in twenty two years,

887
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 3: you're going to be seventy.

888
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 2: And I was like when she said that, I was like, whoa.

889
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's that's not that far away. Twenty two is.

890
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: Not like that's a long long time.

891
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I mean that, like like she

892
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 3: went right to the seventy marker on me. I'm going like,

893
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 3: can I get to fifty?

894
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 6: First? Seventy birds?

895
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: How old are you now? Thirty eight?

896
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 6: You got a little grays in there, I'm Gray's heck,

897
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 6: look at you distinguished.

898
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to be like you guys like Richard

899
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: g Richard Greer, baby, you know, George cleaning, Richard gear, Richard.

900
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 2: Whatever is there, it's your gear.

901
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: There we go. We'll be right back after this quick break.

902
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: Sports World. In twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, we were the

903
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champ. Yeah, baby MVP was Aaron Rodgers always

904
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: had those MVPs National he had won ring fifteen years ago.

905
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: National champions were Ohio State Heisman Trophy winner Marcus Mariota.

906
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: Shout out to Oregon Ducks, Baby, Oregon Ducks. Where's he

907
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 1: at now? Washington, Washington, someone's been waiting watching. He didn't

908
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: play last week. Nowhere, he didn't play last night. No, No,

909
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: he's back. That's that's the best job in football, being

910
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: a known backup guy.

911
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: So you gotta play until you gotta play.

912
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez, John's Molds and Craig Bigio all

913
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: inducted the Hall of Fity year. That's a year. That's

914
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: a crew. American Pharaoh became the twelfth horse and the

915
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: first since nineteen seventy eight to win the Triple Crown.

916
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: That was that long ago. That's crazy. We were at

917
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: that race and the Derby. That's not the last new

918
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: pictures of you at that race. I remember. I think

919
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people have pictures of us at that race.

920
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: I definitely do.

921
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: Were you there, No, never been because it was usually

922
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: right around the draft.

923
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's almost always on the coaching staff. Were kind

924
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 6: of horse race guys. So I was wondering, it's always

925
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 6: on draft weekend. It's hard for us to know. We

926
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 6: don't even know who's playing.

927
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: Who's on what? What's on? Second? Now, the US.

928
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: International team is this Brandy?

929
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: Is this one? Brandy? No? This is for That was

930
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: in like two thousand.

931
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 7: That was like two I was like, did an episode

932
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 7: with her? Awesome?

933
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: That was awesome. But this is when we defeated Japan

934
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: five to two to win the World Cup. Didn't we

935
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: lose the year before or the year after let me

936
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: double check or the year after? This was like the

937
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 1: redeem ref talk. Ron Witter and Scott Green retired prior

938
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: to this season. Who's your favorite? Who's your favorite? I

939
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: like Gene Jean? Yeah, that was your favorite? That was

940
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: my favorite? You don't like Jeene? I do?

941
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: I really like Jane Jeans. Jean Jean's great. Geane had

942
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: a kid that went to Kent John Perry, Perry.

943
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: He was cool.

944
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 3: I really like Van I thought he just doesn't he

945
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 3: just does such a good job of like the game

946
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: just keeps going.

947
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you. I don't like What's Who's the guy?

948
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 1: Scott Novac just looks like a principal. He just looks

949
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: like he might be. He probably is. Range judge I

950
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: have they all have jobs. Not a hocolaue guy either,

951
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: not a hockey guy. Yeah. He got too loud, with

952
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: too much, with it too much. I like talk under

953
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: the hanging off of him. Can if you looking like

954
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: a linebacker, barely get his false smart? Can we get

955
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: some pliability in those arms? Suit? Come on, Hydra, he's

956
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: just like above Cleete Blakeman. Come on, bro a buff Lakeman.

957
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 6: Oh my god, I love deeper that.

958
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: You laughed at his joke. He's a he's a McDaniel's head.

959
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 6: I'm a stand brod.

960
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: He's not gonna. He's gonna when you leave after this,

961
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: He's like, you guys heard laugh my joke? All right?

962
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: What teams? Uh? What teams know? How did you grow

963
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: up liking? You're from Camdon You're talking about like pro

964
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: and college? Who did you?

965
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: When I was a young I mean, it was hard

966
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: not to like. It was hard not to support.

967
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 3: Ohio State and the Browns because of where I grew up.

968
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 3: But my favorite college football team back then was the

969
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 3: Florida State Seminoles.

970
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: Seminals loved, loved Charlie Ward. He was the quarterback.

971
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 3: Casey Weldon was before him, and then Charlie Warre and

972
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 3: I just I rooted for Bobby Bowden to eventually get

973
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 3: over the hump and beat Miami and win a national championship,

974
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 3: and they did eventually.

975
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: But that was my favorite college football team.

976
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 8: You get some Snoop Menace talk on this spot, some

977
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 8: what Snoop Menace?

978
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 7: Who's a national championship game? When they beat Virginia Tech.

979
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: No, that's what that was. After that, that was with

980
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: Peter Warwick. Okay, that was the one.

981
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 2: The one in ninety four, I think it was when

982
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: they won and they had Kes McCorvey and Tomorrow Vanover

983
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 2: and Kevin Knox and those guys were playing.

984
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: They were a beast in football. The football game n

985
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,959
Speaker 1: CUAA ninety four are good victocy That year I forgot

986
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: about that was that Mark rickt was yes year.

987
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: Before he went to Georgia. Yeah, that was my favorite team.

988
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 3: And then, honestly, I don't know why I had like

989
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: kind of like an affinity for the Lions. That was

990
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 3: back when Eric Kramer and they actually did some decent things.

991
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: Back there with Barry.

992
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 3: Barry was hard not to like when you got to

993
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 3: see Barry on TV, like that was like musty TV.

994
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Barry Sanders, Yeah he was. He was unreal. That's

995
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: who every kid wanted to be just.

996
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 3: Watching him play with such his running style was so

997
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 3: different than everybody else, I mean, and his legs were

998
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 3: just so massive, and he the way he cut on

999
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 3: astro turf was like illegal.

1000
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, and he just he too liked the physics. Literally

1001
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 10: he walked away from the game. He was still healthy

1002
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 10: and he could have played. And I watched the thing

1003
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 10: on him. He seems like a great dad and stuff.

1004
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 10: You know him and his relationship with his dad was

1005
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 10: always a little weird. It wasn't weird, Like he loved

1006
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 10: his dad, but his dad was always kind of tough

1007
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 10: on him.

1008
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like always said that he was the third best

1009
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: running back of all time behind Jim Brown and him,

1010
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 1: and then he he would do publicly, he would say

1011
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: she had the third best running back of all time

1012
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: behind Jim Brown and me. Jim. Now you you coached

1013
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: at Michigan State. You got just for one year? For

1014
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: one year? Was sabing? Was that part of ready? Right

1015
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: after I graduated from Carol And so did did you

1016
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: think Nick gave you a recommendation of.

1017
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: Bill, Sure, I don't, I mean, I can't.

1018
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1019
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 3: Brian, So, Brian was a second year GA. I was

1020
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 3: a first year GA. So he was a year older

1021
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 3: than me, Brian dab dable. So when I got there,

1022
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 3: Brian was already in his second year and so I

1023
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 3: was in my first year.

1024
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: So that was a huge experience.

1025
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 3: For me because coming to New England with Bill after

1026
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 3: being with Nick, it didn't seem like such a like

1027
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 3: a oh my gosh, yeah, you know what I mean,

1028
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 3: because I'd already like, all right, I know what this

1029
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 3: is like.

1030
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: You know, after having been with Nick. What are the

1031
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: similarities and differences Nick is?

1032
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 3: Nick is not afraid to really detail it out, you

1033
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like there would be like a

1034
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 3: cover one tip sheet for the DB's that was like

1035
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 3: this thick that's just cover. That's one defense, you know

1036
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 3: what I mean. It's like, holy cow, you know, if

1037
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 3: you do this, do this, you know got that, you know.

1038
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 3: And he believed in.

1039
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: Preparation, preparation, preparation. It was relentless in that regard.

1040
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 3: Bill was very much the same, but less like he

1041
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 3: would try to simplify. I thought, you know, as much

1042
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 3: as he could, you know, and we might play cover one,

1043
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 3: but he's not going to overwhelm you with you know,

1044
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 3: too much detail. But I mean, honestly, there's their personalities

1045
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 3: are a little different. Everybody thinks Bill is what you

1046
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 3: see in the media, and as you know, it's not

1047
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 3: like that, you know. So it was fun, It was

1048
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 3: really It was great for me to have a chance

1049
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 3: to be with Nick before going to.

1050
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: Bill baptize you into it, no doubt. You know, we

1051
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: all forget Anakin was the Jedi first. Okay, he was

1052
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: a Jedi. There you go, Jackie. Let's break down these Ravens.

1053
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: Give us a rundown.

1054
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 6: Let's get into these.

1055
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: Ravens, get into the game. Okay, this was the year.

1056
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 6: The Ravens went ten and six. Is in the Hardbar era,

1057
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 6: of course, Gary Kubiak's loan season as OC in Baltimore. Yeah,

1058
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 6: and then on staff, oh yeah. And then on the

1059
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 6: other side of the ball, we have mister Blitz zero himself,

1060
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 6: Dean ps Dean p.

1061
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: That fucking Dan Pan Peece. You remember what Randy Moshi

1062
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: said yell at Deep Pries all the time. What do

1063
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: you used to say? He dps Blitz fucking zero loasting

1064
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: goddamn ring my goodness, oh man, man, was it plexico? Yes, bro,

1065
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I've still got PTSD from that as

1066
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: a fan.

1067
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 7: Geez.

1068
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 6: And now we're talking Nick Say, and we're talking Bama

1069
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 6: CJ Mosley's rookie year. He was a beast, Elvis Duomerville,

1070
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 6: Terrell Suggs, Sackville twenty nine sacks that year. We're in

1071
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,959
Speaker 6: the post ray Lewis post ed, Reid Era. Those guys

1072
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 6: left in twenty twelve, we're in twenty fourteen. Here they

1073
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 6: were the sixteen and the AFC going into the playoffs.

1074
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 6: And this was a banner year for Joe Flacco, I mean,

1075
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 6: absolutely turned it up, best year of his career through

1076
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 6: for twenty seven touchdowns, almost four thousand yards, just bawling out.

1077
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, backed up by Tyrod. This is a good team.

1078
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 6: Heck of a team, bro, Steve Smith.

1079
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 3: Really good team, really tough, really well coached, and they

1080
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 3: had a lot of info on us, like we had,

1081
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 3: you know, played enough and it was like, you know,

1082
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 3: twenty twelve AC Championship Game, twenty thirteen, we went there

1083
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 3: and played them twenty fourteen, you know.

1084
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: And dating back to my rookie year, yeah. Nine.

1085
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 2: I mean there was a lot of.

1086
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: Like rivalry people this is this was a rivalry are

1087
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: a good eight years, no doubt. We you know, it

1088
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: was like us, it was our out of division rival

1089
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: It usually bounced from them to the Colts, then went

1090
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: to Denver. Yeah, but they had a huge chunk of that.

1091
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it just you knew it was going

1092
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 3: to be a challenge to beat him.

1093
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: It's a great organization.

1094
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 3: They're really well coached, you know, and they were stable,

1095
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 3: you know, like it wasn't like things were fluctuating all

1096
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 3: the time, like who's the coach. You know, we played

1097
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 3: against the Jets and the Bills, and it was like,

1098
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 3: you know, every every few years, it felt like you're

1099
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 3: getting you know, used to like, all right, this is

1100
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 3: the new coach. He hired these two new coordinators, so

1101
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 3: the system's going from this to something else. And it

1102
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 3: was like for these guys, there was a lot of

1103
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 3: consistency and stability, and so they were able to accumulate

1104
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 3: a lot of knowledge on us. We had basically the

1105
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 3: same situation, you know, you know, going into to playing them,

1106
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 3: and so I just felt like familiarity breeds contempt a

1107
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 3: little bit, and so we had played so many games

1108
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 3: against them, and it was like, Okay, here we go again.

1109
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 3: Like Sugs. I could still hear Suggs on the field,

1110
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 3: like when we would when we would say a code word.

1111
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 3: You know, Suggs was one of him and Lewis and

1112
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 3: Reid obviously were incredible, but they were also incredibly intelligent

1113
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 3: and so like yeah, and so like you're yelling a

1114
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 3: word and then he's going, it's going on, It's going

1115
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 3: over there, It's going there, and I'm like, gosh, dang,

1116
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 3: like we got to switch everything, you know what I mean.

1117
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 3: And it's like it's such a pain in the butt

1118
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 3: when you're dealing with that.

1119
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: But they were tough.

1120
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 3: They were physical, as you know, we prided ourselves on

1121
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 3: being the same way, and you know, so we played

1122
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 3: a similar.

1123
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: Style of football, if you will.

1124
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 3: Both wanted to be good in the kicking game. You know,

1125
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 3: both took a lot of pride and a lot of

1126
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 3: scrimmage turnovers.

1127
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: It was all those things.

1128
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 3: So it was almost like you're playing, you know, a

1129
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 3: close relative, you know, And even though they weren't in

1130
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 3: our division, we played them a lot, so it felt

1131
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 3: like they were and you know, they always talked about

1132
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 3: how they weren't they didn't fear us and all that.

1133
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 3: I don't you know, I don't know why anybody would

1134
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 3: fear playing somebody else, But like they talked about it

1135
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 3: a lot, and and you know so and they got.

1136
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: Us a couple of times. Yeah, I know this game

1137
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: isn't it didn't have ray or ed, But can you

1138
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: can you talk to the listener about having to try

1139
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: to prepare against those two guys.

1140
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I'm sure like when you talk about a

1141
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator trying to get ready for Manning or Brady,

1142
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 3: you know, those guys that were really intelligent and could

1143
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 3: play the game in their mind too. That's what that

1144
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 3: felt like when you were getting ready to play. Read

1145
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 3: Lewis Suggs to me, there's not that many teams that

1146
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 3: I've coached against where I would say that there was

1147
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 3: the volume of players that they had at one time

1148
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 3: that were as instrumental in terms of knowing what was coming,

1149
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 3: seeing the formation, overplaying tendencies, being able to adjust, getting.

1150
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: Their team mates in the right position.

1151
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 3: It was really hard to you know, because as a coach,

1152
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 3: you want to prepare your team as best you can.

1153
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: You also want to try.

1154
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 2: To scheme some success.

1155
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 3: So it's not like make you know, good luck jewels,

1156
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 3: you know, get out there and get them on every play. Like,

1157
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 3: there's definitely places where it's like, all right, jewels, you're

1158
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 3: gonna got to come through here, and you came through

1159
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 3: you know a ton. It's just you want to try

1160
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 3: to help your players as much as you can by

1161
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 3: giving them something that's like, Okay, this is gonna work,

1162
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 3: and it's it's gonna not trick the defense, but there's

1163
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 3: gonna be an element, a little foreshadowing.

1164
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:37,959
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a little you.

1165
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 2: Know, a little you know where it's simpler to have

1166
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 2: some success.

1167
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 3: And it was hard against them. It just wasn't That

1168
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 3: was not simple. Yeah, it wasn't simple.

1169
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: I just remember anytime we'd play ed Reed or bray Lewis,

1170
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: Bill would show like a twenty play cut up on

1171
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 1: just both of those. There'd be a thirty minute team presentation,

1172
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: like to start the day of just a highlight of

1173
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: these two. This guy will fucking blow you up, like

1174
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: just that kind of shit. Yeah, oh, cover three, that's

1175
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: what you thought, And like Edward agreed to be in

1176
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 1: the second, you know what I mean, Like.

1177
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 3: His favorite thing to say to us was that they

1178
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 3: don't need to play with safety defense because they just

1179
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 3: played post safety and Ed covers both sides of the field.

1180
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 2: And it may and it like got in your head

1181
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 2: as like I'm like, you know, as a coach, you're like, oh, man,

1182
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 2: like can we throw it back there?

1183
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: Or no? Ever? You know what I mean?

1184
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 3: Like I remember Tom, like we'd have conversations and it

1185
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 3: was always part of the conversation.

1186
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 2: But that that's that's a tribute to the greatness of

1187
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 2: the player.

1188
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, because when you're looking at him going he can

1189
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 3: cover everything back there and you're thinking about that, that

1190
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 3: makes you question whether or not you know, you can

1191
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 3: do something. Oh yeah, Bill loved ed Reid, didn't he

1192
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 3: like just loved it, loved him.

1193
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 6: Where does he rank on the all time Mount Rushmore

1194
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 6: of like guys that weren't Patriots that Bill loved high

1195
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, I always that.

1196
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: Weren't patriots that he didn't coach. There's a caveat there.

1197
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 3: Lawrence Taylor would be there is no Mount Rushmore.

1198
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: There's Lawrence and then then there's the Mountain.

1199
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: Yeah that's Ed Reed is he's on.

1200
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: He's in, He's in the Mount Rushmore.

1201
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 6: Is there anybody else in there?

1202
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1203
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 2: I mean ed was Edward was such like Troy.

1204
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 3: They were different players. Edred was a completely different player

1205
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 3: than Troy. You know, we ended well, hell we ended

1206
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 3: up with a lot of the guys that he loved

1207
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 3: Rodney Junior, Like it was like if we loved him enough,

1208
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 3: we would try to get him like Randy.

1209
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,479
Speaker 2: But like I'm just saying, like there was some show.

1210
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: There's a love show.

1211
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 7: All the miked up clips with them talking ship to

1212
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 7: each other pregame, it's, oh.

1213
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's something.

1214
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 3: But that's that's what happened. That, Like you know, like

1215
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 3: you you you like them enough.

1216
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, I never made those kind of I

1217
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: like these two guys like you're dating.

1218
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 10: It's like you're dating, like you know, you.

1219
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: Chilling right now? Okay, chilling, we're chilling chilling on that. Now.

1220
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: What's the breakdown of this defense? What do you remember

1221
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: from this game? Planned? Deps? Dean? Was you played coach?

1222
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he he coached against us a long time, so

1223
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 3: or with us a long time.

1224
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: So he knew.

1225
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 3: Like I think a lot of gets too much, gets

1226
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 3: overblown about that kind of stuff. But he obviously knew

1227
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 3: some of the things we did, so that was hard

1228
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 3: to like really get them on that kind of stuff.

1229
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: The element of surprise is usually out with just your

1230
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: fundamental stuff. Yeah, it's just tough, you know, because they've

1231
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: seen it so much.

1232
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 3: This was probably the most physical and physically tough team

1233
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 3: we would play. You know, now we played C at

1234
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 3: the end and they were very similar. But up to

1235
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 3: this point this was as tough physically of a football

1236
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 3: team on defense that we'd played, no doubt about it.

1237
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't like.

1238
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 2: The most skilled, like you know, super speedy that it

1239
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 2: wasn't about quickness and that was not them.

1240
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 3: This was about hitting you in the face. And they

1241
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 3: didn't let you run the ball. They crushed the pocket.

1242
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 3: Crushed the pocket if you head onto the ball. Hellodia

1243
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 3: was young, Nada was on the team. They had I

1244
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 3: mean na A Jern again. I remember Jern again hit

1245
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 3: Tommy the one time and almost I mean he knocked him,

1246
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 3: he knocked his wind out of him. But but then

1247
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 3: it was like they had all those big guys like

1248
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 3: Dumerville who played mostly in sub and Suggs who played

1249
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 3: all the time.

1250
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: But then it was like they.

1251
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 3: Had that that multitude of guys like Upshaw, McClellan, McPhee

1252
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 3: that were bigger, like they didn't even belong in the

1253
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 3: category of linebacker, you know, it was like a defensive end,

1254
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 3: you know. And so they would put them all out

1255
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 3: there in passing situations and then it was like if

1256
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 3: they didn't get an edge quick, it was just power.

1257
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 2: And they just brought everybody to the quarterback.

1258
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,919
Speaker 3: And so we knew we couldn't hold the ball along

1259
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 3: running it was going to be difficult. And they were

1260
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 3: the best red zone defense we had played all season

1261
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 3: to that point by far. And so I remember on

1262
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 3: Tuesday of this week, Bill had a conversation with me,

1263
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 3: and these were always tricky conversations and it wasn't the

1264
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 3: only time we had it, but he said, I don't

1265
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know how much time we want

1266
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 3: to spend messing around in the running game.

1267
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: You know.

1268
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 3: He's like, I just don't you know, I don't think

1269
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 3: we're going to win the game that way. That's not

1270
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 3: where our strength lies, that's not where our advantage is.

1271
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 2: And so he was willing, you know, whenever he always

1272
01:00:58,840 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 2: said something.

1273
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 3: Like that to me, always say like, okay, well tell me,

1274
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 3: what what does that mean?

1275
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: Like, do you not want me to put any runs in?

1276
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: Like ever?

1277
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 3: No, well, no, I'm not saying that, you know, Like,

1278
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 3: but I mean, like I don't think I want to

1279
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 3: spend a lot of time running the ball, you know.

1280
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 3: So then then I then he'd like leave and I'm like,

1281
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 3: I still don't know. I still know like what I'm

1282
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 3: doing here, you know. But then but but I'll say this,

1283
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 3: like this is one of the unspoken things did. I

1284
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 3: think our players did an incredible job of and they

1285
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 3: did it because I think Bill taught him how to

1286
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 3: do it. Was in a bit as big a game

1287
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 3: as this was, we're going to say we're not doing this,

1288
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 3: and you could you could get your feelings hurt if

1289
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 3: you were like an offensive lineman or the full back

1290
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 3: or a half back. You're like, wait a minute, Like,

1291
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 3: what do you mean We're not going to run the ball.

1292
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 3: We're not even gonna try, you know, and why because

1293
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 3: our advantage was in the passing game, and that's the

1294
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 3: way we felt best about winning.

1295
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: Like it'd be like the Celtics.

1296
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 3: The Celtics are one of the best three point shooting

1297
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 3: teams in NBA history, right, well, they're not going to

1298
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 3: just pound the ball in the paint all day and

1299
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 3: hope that they can win inside, you know, against the

1300
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 3: Nuggets or whoever they play, you know, they're gonna they're

1301
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 3: gonna do what they do and beat you with skill

1302
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 3: and speed and shooting and all. And that's basically what

1303
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 3: he was saying was, look, we can try it.

1304
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 2: And we had a couple a couple.

1305
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 3: I think we only ran seven times, you know, and

1306
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 3: that was literally just to kind of like give me

1307
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 3: a playoff to think about the next pass. Honestly, that's

1308
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 3: about what it was, because it was like we did

1309
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 3: not go into it thinking we were gonna run thirty

1310
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 3: six runs.

1311
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: We weren't.

1312
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 3: We were only going to run a couple here and

1313
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 3: there and then throw it the rest of the game.

1314
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 3: But you guys were able to hear that, and we

1315
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 3: would try to say it in the right way so

1316
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 3: where like guys would go, Okay, I understand while we're

1317
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 3: doing this, let's buy into what we're doing and be

1318
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,479
Speaker 3: really good at that, and let's go win the game well.

1319
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: With without a doubt. And you know, that's something that

1320
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: was on the wall when you'd walk in mental toughness

1321
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: doing what's best for the team when it isn't necessarily

1322
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 1: best for you. That was something that we all knew

1323
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: going into every game that we were a game plan offense.

1324
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: So there were times where we didn't run the ball,

1325
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: or where I had to run a bunch of go

1326
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: routes and clear out routes and all these routes and

1327
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: very few times all these routes, you know, right, all

1328
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: these you know, those kind of routes, but you know

1329
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: it was all for a reason, because we were a

1330
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: game plan offense. To get back to it, and you know,

1331
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: that's very different than a team that does what they do.

1332
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: There's like that. It's like teams that are game plan

1333
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: teams that are complete, they throw the game plan out

1334
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: every every post game and then it's all brand new.

1335
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: That's kind of what we tried to do. And then

1336
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: there was teams that did what they did. You know,

1337
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: Steelers on defense, they run the same cover fucking four

1338
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 1: for the last twenty years. You know, So like it's

1339
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,479
Speaker 1: one of those things. But that's tough, and that takes

1340
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: a lot of trust for coaching staff in the players

1341
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 1: right that can handle that, you know, and we just

1342
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: so happened to always That's what the types of teams

1343
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: we had, guys that you know, understood that it.

1344
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 3: Was tough to go in there and tell like Dante, yeah,

1345
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 3: you know, like you know, because you're having this conversation

1346
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 3: and you're like, Okay, well here we go, Like now

1347
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm gonna go I'm about to go in

1348
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 3: there and tell the offensive line coach he's like one

1349
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 3: of the best offensive line coaches in the history of

1350
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 3: pro football, that we are not going to run the

1351
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 3: ball in this game, you know what I mean, And

1352
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 3: you've got to try to finesse it, you know what

1353
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 3: I mean. It's kind of like telling your wife you

1354
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 3: want to go on like an extended golf trip, you

1355
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like, Hey, I would like to

1356
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 3: go to Ireland with who, you know what I mean.

1357
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 3: And then you're like and then it's like how long

1358
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 3: and you're kind of like you're tread and water really,

1359
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 3: you know. I remember going to talk to Dante about

1360
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 3: it and he was like ever, and I'm like no.

1361
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 2: So I looked at my.

1362
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: Call sheet the other just just today.

1363
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 3: And I'm like, we had we had runs in and

1364
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 3: we ran a few, we just didn't run a lot.

1365
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1366
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 3: But the intention was to basically win with skill in

1367
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 3: the passing game. Yeah, that was what they end to

1368
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 3: to slow down the rush by getting the ball out.

1369
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: We didn't.

1370
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 3: We didn't think we're we don't want to stand there

1371
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 3: and hold it forever because it wasn't. That was not

1372
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 3: going to be the That never worked for anybody that

1373
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 3: year against.

1374
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: Baltimore, without a doubt. You got any good Scarnikios stories,

1375
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: funny ones. Coach Scar was, he's a legend. He's kind of.

1376
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 3: Like, yes, I have I have a great Scarnaki story. Yeah,

1377
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 3: so Dante Dante. Every Friday when we would finish practice, right,

1378
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 3: that was our day as coaches like that, we got

1379
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 3: out before like you know, it was close to midnight. Yeah,

1380
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 3: so we would like we would get in there, we

1381
01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 3: would grab our little fast our with the fat Friday food, right,

1382
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 3: and we'd come in and we would like sit down

1383
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 3: and as soon as the tape was loaded up, we

1384
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 3: were supposed to run through the film and then we

1385
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 3: hand the corrections like that we said we needed to

1386
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 3: make the next day when we watched it with you

1387
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,919
Speaker 3: guys on Saturday, we would hand that the bill before

1388
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 3: we would leave we didn't have a staff meeting, so

1389
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 3: it was like so the coaches were like, get your

1390
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 3: food and get in there, you know what I mean, Like,

1391
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get out of here, right. So Scar would

1392
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 3: always he would lay on the ground. We would have

1393
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 3: the table here and we'd be watching the screen. He

1394
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 3: would lay over here on the ground on his back, right,

1395
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 3: and Dante was like, you know, by the end of

1396
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 3: the week, we're all wiped out, right. So Dante would

1397
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 3: be over here and he would intermittently do sit ups,

1398
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 3: and then when he wasn't doing sit ups, he was asleep.

1399
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 3: And so like we would be watching a play and

1400
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 3: be like, you know, we'd miss a te or something,

1401
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 3: and always let the coaches like you guys say what

1402
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 3: the correction is, you know, and some the g the

1403
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 3: QC would be writing it down, and so we like

1404
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 3: and I have the clicker.

1405
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 2: We watched it and missed the t. Nobby said anything,

1406
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 2: rewind it? That be said anything, And I look over there,

1407
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 2: Dante's just like just cast on the ground, you know

1408
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 2: what I mean.

1409
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 3: And then and then I go just put, uh, you know,

1410
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 3: handle the te on the right side.

1411
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 2: And then he'd go, yeah, handle the T and then

1412
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 2: he would start doing sit ups again until until he

1413
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 2: would you know, and then he would just when he

1414
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 2: when he laid the head back down, he was going again,

1415
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 2: and then he would do sit ups.

1416
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: That's what that. That was his routine. Scar. Scar would

1417
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: be the first one in the building first off, because

1418
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 1: I remember when I first got.

1419
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 2: I made the coffee. I would be the I remember

1420
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 2: I was. I was determined to be the first one

1421
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 2: in the building once like before four. Yeah, you had

1422
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 2: to get there at four.

1423
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 1: I got there at four, like to beat him one

1424
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 1: time my rookie year. I was like, this is way

1425
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: too early. But he would get in this swim X

1426
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 1: and he would he would swim like like an Olympian

1427
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: in the swim X for like thirty minutes. Like he

1428
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: had a crazy routine. He was very fit and that's

1429
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: why he would. He's probably like eighty now, No, he's

1430
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: in his mid seventies. He looks great.

1431
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have breakfast, he and Ivan and I have

1432
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 3: breakfast every once in a while.

1433
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was coaching Ives is great.

1434
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 3: Ives was great. Ives is lost a little weight, He's

1435
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 3: doing great. So he's like got this emeritus status. I

1436
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 3: don't understand, like I keep asking like, how did you

1437
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 3: get that? Well, I know how he got it, But

1438
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:41,560
Speaker 3: he like goes to the facilities. I'm like, he eats breakfast,

1439
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 3: then he'll like get a workout in, then I'll go

1440
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 3: to practice, then I'll come in and eat lunch, and

1441
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 3: then they'll take off.

1442
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 1: You know. It's it's it's my country, great day, It's

1443
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 1: Country cub ives. I mean, I've seen him there a

1444
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: few every time I visit. I'm like, so, I thought

1445
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 1: you were retired five years ago. He did?

1446
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 2: He did instead of he's not going to Lifetime Fitness.

1447
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: He's absolutely not. No, that's free, that's right, that's right

1448
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: for the soul. That's so dope. Jack, Let's break down

1449
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 1: the pass.

1450
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 6: Hey yeah, let's get in these pats AFC champs for

1451
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 6: the sixth straight year. This was a twelve and fourteen

1452
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 6: for the third trade year, Bill's fifteenth year in New England.

1453
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 6: Pretty crazy, josh Oc of course, Maddy p d C.

1454
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 6: This was Jimmy G's rookie year. We lost some talent

1455
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 6: in the offseason, lost to Keith Leeb, lost Brandon Spikes,

1456
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:37,759
Speaker 6: lost Logan Mankins, but replaced sort of not really replaced,

1457
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 6: but brought in Darryl Reeves, Brandon Browner, Brandon Lafel, junk

1458
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 6: back re signed Jules Big.

1459
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 2: Signing not bad, not bad. Remember when you were out.

1460
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: There moonlighting and free agency? Yeah, I remember that.

1461
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 2: I was in San Francisco some of the most sleepless

1462
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 2: nights of my career.

1463
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 3: I just you know, I was like Bill, I was like,

1464
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 3: you can't let this guy go. Oh we're just starting.

1465
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: Well, he's at the Giants. You know, did you go

1466
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 1: to the Niners?

1467
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 2: Did you go to the Niners and the Giants that went.

1468
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: Giants might and then Niners. So Niners offered me more

1469
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 1: money than I signed for.

1470
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 2: Well, I mean the cost of living out there is exorbitant.

1471
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Fine cheese out there.

1472
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 6: You and Harball in there talking numbers.

1473
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: Me, Harball, we're talking numbers when he was fighting.

1474
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 2: Harball was fighting with the gm like they're like, it's

1475
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,839
Speaker 2: publicly no remember that with the Niners.

1476
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's over here asking me how much you want?

1477
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 1: You know, I won't get it, Dime.

1478
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 2: You were like the only team in pro football that

1479
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 2: like built their offense around you.

1480
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: I know That's what I Yeah. Yeah, But you know

1481
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 1: when I first when Josh first gets in there.

1482
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 3: I remember when you came and talk to me after

1483
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,679
Speaker 3: the thirteen after the twelve season. Do you remember that, No,

1484
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 3: was it twelve or thirteen.

1485
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 1: When I broke my foot? No, thirteen was your first?

1486
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:57,759
Speaker 1: Good year? Was thirteen?

1487
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 3: They're like numbers wise. Yeah, And you remember you you

1488
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 3: came and talk to me at the end of the year.

1489
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 3: This is before free agency, and you said, you said,

1490
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 3: you know, I didn't know. I thought I was going

1491
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 3: to be a Billy Oh guy. And I'm like, I'm like, well,

1492
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 3: you don't have to be one or the other, like

1493
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 3: I said, you know.

1494
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: Like I will.

1495
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 3: We'll make this fun. And we did and it was great.

1496
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 3: But I remember you were nervous, like about being a

1497
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 3: billy Oh guy. I'm like, BILLYO is one of my

1498
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 3: best friends. Like you can be both be both guys.

1499
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: We're different. I Alwa's yell at Josh. You know, like,

1500
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 1: you know, Billy Oh drafted me, but you you know

1501
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 1: he don't want to get him My opportunity bro.

1502
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 3: Earned his opportunity catches and to break them back, someone

1503
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:44,719
Speaker 3: had to murder someone and someone had tears some groans

1504
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 3: for that to happen.

1505
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 11: But we're here back may. Still we're still in the

1506
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 11: back may. I didn't say that earned the back may.

1507
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 11: Josh brought in Dola, he brings it. He brought in

1508
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 11: I remember.

1509
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 1: The first year he sat back, Josh, the first year

1510
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 1: he come back, there was like we brought in Dante.

1511
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 1: We brought in what his name, Anthony Dante Stalwart. Yeah,

1512
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 1: we brought in Jabbar. We were bringing in all the

1513
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 1: old guys. I'm sitting here. That's why I didn't. I

1514
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 1: really didn't like Josh at first. I'm like, this guy's

1515
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 1: already trying to replace me. I thought I was going

1516
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 1: to be you know, then all the all the old

1517
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 1: guys come in. Let's just being a young football player. Yeah,

1518
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 1: you don't really know. Learn, you learn, you learn. Now,

1519
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 1: what's the relationship with the coaching staff developing with Belichick?

1520
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: You know, what's that? How was that that room? You

1521
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 1: guys are all cool? It was it all like he's

1522
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: the principal. You guys are all the teachers, Like what

1523
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: what was the dynamic of that? You know, like just

1524
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 1: the coaching room, the locker.

1525
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 2: Room, you mean, like the meeting room, like where we

1526
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 2: had our staff beings and all that.

1527
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 1: Just that community. You guys's community. Like there's the player community,

1528
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: there's the medical community. The coaches are our own community.

1529
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 3: It was you know, it was very very organized, and

1530
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 3: we always knew kind of like, you know, what was

1531
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,680
Speaker 3: coming next. You know, our schedule was no different than

1532
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 3: yours in terms of like when we had to be

1533
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 3: wear next and all the rest of it. I thought

1534
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 3: he did a tremendous job of he We understood what

1535
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 3: was going on at each step of the year as

1536
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 3: it went as as well as I'm sure any other

1537
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 3: staff does, because he included us so like when it

1538
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:30,839
Speaker 3: was free agency, or when we were preparing for the draft,

1539
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 3: or when there was a contract issue with somebody, or

1540
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 3: you know, he didn't just like we just didn't like

1541
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 3: have to read it on the internet, you know what

1542
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 3: I mean. He included us in there, and he and

1543
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 3: I thought that was helpful because it was helping coaches

1544
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 3: that we didn't know any of the stuff we were

1545
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 3: getting prepared for, you know, young coaches getting prepared to

1546
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 3: take a step forward and all that because we were

1547
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 3: learning the calendar year, we were learning all the things

1548
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 3: that happened. We're learning some of the things the ways

1549
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 3: that that the those things.

1550
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 1: Got resolved, which was great. I thought our.

1551
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 3: Staff meeting room was very comfortable. Like people think of

1552
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 3: him as like this real, like, you know, hard to

1553
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 3: be yourself around kind of guy. And it was like

1554
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 3: almost the opposite for us, Like we go in the

1555
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 3: staff meeting and you just you're you if you know,

1556
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 3: Pepper would have a big cup of meat, like he'd

1557
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 3: have like steak and chicken instead of be eaten then

1558
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 3: you know, other Dante would be doing sit ups and

1559
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like you could kind of

1560
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 3: be yourself.

1561
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 1: And Bill, Bill was a Bill was.

1562
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 3: An assistant for a long time, yea, so he understood,

1563
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 3: like we're not all going to be the same. And

1564
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 3: what he did such a tremendous job of was.

1565
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 1: He asked for.

1566
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 3: Input and he and he'd say, hey, let's go over

1567
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 3: where we're at on the roster, you know, after the

1568
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 3: first two weeks of training camp, okay, And so we

1569
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 3: would meet as an offensive staff and we would go

1570
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 3: through the players and say, hey, you know, Julian's having

1571
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 3: a great camp. He's in good shape, you know, healthy,

1572
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah blah. You know, here's the plan

1573
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 3: going forward with every player. Yeah, with everybody and then

1574
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 3: we would present it to him.

1575
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 2: He was the best listener. That's what the magic for

1576
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 2: him was. He really, he really.

1577
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 3: Because he gave away the responsibility to do that, and

1578
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 3: then when he when we came together, that's when he listened,

1579
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 3: and he was so intent on gathering what you had

1580
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 3: that he didn't have.

1581
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 1: He didn't know.

1582
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 3: He wasn't in the receiver room, he wasn't with us

1583
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 3: in our walkthroughs or anything like that, so he didn't

1584
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,560
Speaker 3: really have that intimate knowledge. And then he would just

1585
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,440
Speaker 3: take it in and try to help himself make good decisions.

1586
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 1: And that's what you know. It baffles me on this

1587
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 1: whole narrative that everyone has on Coach Belichick that he

1588
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 1: was he's not inclusive or or you know, like it's

1589
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: just what everyone thinks. Oh, he's so old school, you know,

1590
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 1: he doesn't listen to other people. It's his way. Well,

1591
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 1: like he was honestly, he was a guy that would

1592
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 1: take information from anyone. Yeah, I remember he would come

1593
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 1: up to me and during the middle game, what are

1594
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 1: you seeing? And if you gave him the right information,

1595
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 1: he keep coming back to you.

1596
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you remember, he would tell us, yeah, I'm gonna

1597
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:08,719
Speaker 3: come ask you. Just don't make up a store.

1598
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 1: Just don't make up a story, because if you do

1599
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 1: that once then he'll never come back to you.

1600
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, just don't make up a store.

1601
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 3: But he was gonna rely on the players because you're

1602
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 3: out there on the field, you see it better than

1603
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 3: we do, Like all we can see is a picture.

1604
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: So it's just it's crazy that he there's this narrative

1605
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 1: ever since, you know, he hasn't been the head coach

1606
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 1: where you know, like, oh he you know, it's his

1607
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,679
Speaker 1: way or the highway. Like anytime you hear any sport

1608
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 1: talk people talking about it, they're like, oh, this guy

1609
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 1: doesn't listening to nobody. He does it all this. You know.

1610
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 1: It's just it's crazy to me. How long did it

1611
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 1: take for you to gain his trust though?

1612
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 3: You know, I mean my first few years I was

1613
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 3: on defense. You know, from from O one toh three.

1614
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 3: I was the lowest guy in the totem pole for.

1615
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 1: Sure, which was common. He would always cross coach, flip

1616
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 1: them the coaches, which is genius. Keeps great.

1617
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, we uh, you know, my first I realized my

1618
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 3: first year his thing was you're gonna do work at

1619
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:10,560
Speaker 3: the standard that we expect and the reason he expected

1620
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 3: it was because we're not gonna be able to win

1621
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 3: championships unless we all produce work at this level. And

1622
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 3: so I was doing the pads when I was younger,

1623
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 3: which you had to draw the whole game and then

1624
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 3: input it all accurately, and if you made any airs

1625
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 3: at all, like he would hand the pad back to

1626
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 3: you when it was done.

1627
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: When you handed it to him, that was just the beginning.

1628
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 1: Then it would come back to you.

1629
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 3: And like my first one came back to me and

1630
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 3: there was like seventy yellow sticky notes, little ones with

1631
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 3: like this guy was on the numbers. He wasn't plus two,

1632
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 3: you know, or this he was a three technique. You

1633
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 3: had him as a two I or whatever. And he

1634
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,639
Speaker 3: was basically telling me with.

1635
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 1: That, like we see it all.

1636
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 2: This is how we do work here.

1637
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 3: And so I learned that, and then by the end

1638
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 3: of my first year, I was much I was much closer.

1639
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 1: To what he wanted.

1640
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 3: And then you know, I was able to work with

1641
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 3: Rack and Mangini, you know, those guys on defense and Bill

1642
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 3: for three years.

1643
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: It's the nmorder around here. That's oh all right, Eric,

1644
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 1: all right?

1645
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 3: And then and and rob Ryan and Pepper and those guys.

1646
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 3: That was a good defensive staff, and Bill was in

1647
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 3: there a lot, so I was able to see that.

1648
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 3: And then we had a great team. So I learned

1649
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 3: a lot from guys like Lawyer and Bruskie and Rabel

1650
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 3: and McGuinness and being able to see the way they

1651
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 3: received the information was great too. And then I'd say,

1652
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 3: you know, at the end of the three Super Bowl,

1653
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 3: he met with me the next day and he asked

1654
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 3: me if I would be ready to make the flip

1655
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 3: and go coach the quarterbacks, you know four And so

1656
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 3: I hope at some point after during that year one

1657
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 3: that I kind of earned his trust in terms of

1658
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 3: the way I would work and what what my standard

1659
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 3: personally was going to be. And and then it just

1660
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 3: kind of carried from there.

1661
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 1: A lot of yellow stickies, a lot of yells at

1662
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 1: first at first. Then it changed. Everyone's mistake makes make mistake,

1663
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 1: the good ones learned from it.

1664
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 3: Snailing is the best part of the process, if you'll

1665
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 3: learn from it, If you learn from it, that's right.

1666
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 1: Is that a bit of like a make it movement?

1667
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 8: When Bill asked you to switch onto the offensive side,

1668
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 8: that I feel.

1669
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 2: Like that or I think there was a I don't.

1670
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 2: I don't think you've ever really made it. I think

1671
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 2: it was a.

1672
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 1: I felt very proud of having the opportunity that he

1673
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 1: was about to give me, but I didn't.

1674
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 3: That didn't That doesn't amount to anything until you go

1675
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 3: do the job, you know. So I was excited about it,

1676
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 3: and uh, I was happy that he would think enough

1677
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 3: of me to give me a chance to do it.

1678
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 1: But there was a lot of work to be done

1679
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 1: after that. How many times you sleep at the facility?

1680
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 1: Never is there who I go home? I go home

1681
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 1: with the guys that were notorious. Maddy Pee was there.

1682
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 1: There was people that did.

1683
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 3: But I just even if I was going to go

1684
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 3: home for four hours, I was going home. I was

1685
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 3: gonna I walked into each one of my kids's rooms

1686
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 3: every night and just did the right thing as a dad. Yeah,

1687
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 3: and you know what I mean, sleep my own bed,

1688
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 3: you know, and make sure that I saw him. You know,

1689
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 3: at some point that's what you gotta do. I mean,

1690
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 3: some people do it the other way. I just feel

1691
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 3: like there's something to be said about that.

1692
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely, Jackie, let's get into the game. Set the stage, all.

1693
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 6: Right, Patriots entered this thing number one seed in the AFC.

1694
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 6: As we talked about, Ravens enter number six, came off

1695
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 6: a win in hines Field, beat the number three Pittsburgh

1696
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 6: Steelers thirty to seventeen in the wild card round. So

1697
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,639
Speaker 6: we gotta buy the Patriots. We that is gotta buy

1698
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:49,679
Speaker 6: coming into this week?

1699
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 1: Was that crazy? Didn't Flacco hit a deep sideline pass

1700
01:20:55,160 --> 01:21:00,639
Speaker 1: to the Jacobi guy? No? That was that was in twelve.

1701
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 6: Yes, Okay, now I remember that one. Patriots clinched in

1702
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 6: week fifteen of this season. They're six AFCAST title and

1703
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 6: leading up to this when it was a cold day

1704
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 6: baby twenty degrees, but it was like eight.

1705
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 1: What the feels like at kickoff?

1706
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:18,839
Speaker 6: So uh, in another one of these these great Ravens

1707
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 6: Patriots battles like we talked about.

1708
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 1: Can you explain to the listener, like how we took

1709
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: these these bye weeks? Yeah, it was going into the playoffs, yeah, and.

1710
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 3: We were Look, we were fortunate that we had more

1711
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 3: than one. Yeah, like some teams, you know, you do

1712
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 3: everything you can to get one, and that's great and

1713
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 3: you make the most of it. I think people always

1714
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 3: assimilate the bye week with well we're gonna we're gonna

1715
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:48,839
Speaker 3: rest up and get healthy.

1716
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 1: And that's true.

1717
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,799
Speaker 3: But I think we always thought of the bye week as, Okay,

1718
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 3: how what can we do during the bye week to

1719
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 3: make sure that we're going to have give ourselves a

1720
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 3: chance to have some advantage depending on who we play. Yes,

1721
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 3: and Bill was great, you know, for years he had

1722
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 3: always told us this was like I would say, after Thanksgiving,

1723
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 3: he would he'd always talk to us about listen, you know,

1724
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 3: if we can find anything that is unscouted that we

1725
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 3: can work on for these next four or five weeks

1726
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 3: that might give us an advantage in January, let's start

1727
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 3: doing it. And so we would practice, you know, we

1728
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 3: would practice things, gadget stuff, et cetera. You know, maybe

1729
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 3: some tempo things, low red zone, whatever that we weren't

1730
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 3: necessarily going to run on December tenth or December seventeenth.

1731
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 3: We were getting them ready, and then during the bye

1732
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 3: week we would really apply those to the opponent we

1733
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 3: were going to play or had a chance to play,

1734
01:22:57,880 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 3: you know, because we didn't know who it was going

1735
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 3: to be. But he he was really good at that,

1736
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 3: and so we always took time to try to do that.

1737
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 3: We didn't just like hey, guys, make sure you get

1738
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 3: treatment and get some red. It was it was always

1739
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 3: a purposeful bye week. You know, hey, we're not doing

1740
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 3: this as well as we need to be doing it.

1741
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:19,640
Speaker 3: So like we're gonna do a blitz drill, you know,

1742
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 3: and make sure that we're good on our protections on

1743
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 3: third down. We're going to do a cover one period,

1744
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 3: you know, because we know we're gonna have to beat

1745
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 3: man coverage in the playoffs. Or we're going to do

1746
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 3: a third and goal period in the red zone because

1747
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 3: we know those plays are going to be huge factors

1748
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 3: in winning and losing in the playoffs.

1749
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 1: And and for us.

1750
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 3: We always had a period where it was like, is

1751
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:42,599
Speaker 3: there any gadgets or a little different plays we could run.

1752
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: Gadget speen trick plays, Yeah, that might.

1753
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 3: Be able to give us, you know, just an advantage

1754
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 3: of big play, some momentum something.

1755
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: What about this formation breakdown? Remember when I think who

1756
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 1: brought we were talking about Baltimore Rave Baltimore. So this was

1757
01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 1: this was during this was.

1758
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 3: During the bye week, and he brought it up and

1759
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 3: we saw it in Alabama game. So Alabama scored I

1760
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 3: believe it is against LSU they did something very similar

1761
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 3: where the tight end lined up as the tackle, they

1762
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:18,480
Speaker 3: took a linement out and they somebody reported ineligible.

1763
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 1: So we were like, that's a pretty good idea, you know.

1764
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 3: And I think the execution of the whole, like the

1765
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 3: lineman coming out of the game, like the lining up

1766
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 3: in the formation and not acting like we did like

1767
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 3: we just robbed a bank, was important, you know what

1768
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 3: I mean, we did and like so we that's where

1769
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 3: we chose who was going to do it. And so Veren,

1770
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 3: who love Shane Vereen to this day, you know, is

1771
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:53,640
Speaker 3: like he's the like you're gonna report ineligible, you have

1772
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:55,640
Speaker 3: to go to the official. I remember having the conversation

1773
01:24:55,720 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 3: and you have to tell him this, I am reporting ineligible.

1774
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,959
Speaker 3: I'm an ineligible player, you know. And I remember Vinovich

1775
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 3: was like okay, and I think his you know, his

1776
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 3: wheels were turning. I don't remember if Bill told him

1777
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 3: before the game or not. But then when Shane went

1778
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,800
Speaker 3: to do it, he did it. But they lined up

1779
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 3: to us like we were in a normal formation. Yeah,

1780
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 3: and there we got three I think we got three

1781
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 3: plays and the big thing was Bill made Bill made

1782
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 3: the call on that hold it until the second half.

1783
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 2: Hold it to the second half. He didn't want them

1784
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:32,679
Speaker 2: talking about it at halftime. Oh so he wanted, he wanted,

1785
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 2: and we did this off and on anyway, like we

1786
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 2: would hold something just so you couldn't have a twelve

1787
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:42,679
Speaker 2: minute meeting and say, look, if this comes up again, here's.

1788
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 1: What we're gonna do.

1789
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 3: You have to do it on the sideline, and you know,

1790
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 3: scrambling on the scrambling on the sidelines a little different

1791
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 3: than doing it at and the white board at halftime.

1792
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 8: What situation do you have to be in to like

1793
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,679
Speaker 8: kind of apply these gadget plays like down by fourteen?

1794
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 1: Like what's the kind of like.

1795
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 3: No, I think I think honestly as a as a

1796
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 3: oach when you're calling it. I think, honestly, at the

1797
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 3: end of the day, it's kind of like.

1798
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 1: A feel thing, you know.

1799
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 3: For me, I always kind of did it in two

1800
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:14,480
Speaker 3: different ways, one of two different ways.

1801
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 1: Either we have some momentum and I'm going for the

1802
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: cherry on top of the.

1803
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 2: Sunday, or we need to create momentum or we or

1804
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 2: we don't have any momentum and I need it back quick.

1805
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 3: Like it was one of the other you know what

1806
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:29,679
Speaker 3: I mean, Like you remember in the AOFC Championship game

1807
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 3: against Kansas City, how many times did we call the

1808
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 3: flea flicker to get it? What we We killed it

1809
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 3: like four times in the game and finally got it

1810
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 3: in overtime and we he threw it away because it

1811
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 3: was covered decent, but I was like, I'm trying, I'm

1812
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:49,640
Speaker 3: trying to get it again and again and again, and

1813
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 3: we didn't ever really got it until we got the overtime.

1814
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 3: So I think it's just one of those things where

1815
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 3: you kind of got to feel one or the other.

1816
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 3: Either you're going for the jugular or you need you

1817
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 3: need to save your yourself, or yeah, you need to

1818
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 3: say an extra life. That's right, get that mushroom like

1819
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 3: in Mario, that's right.

1820
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 6: And you had to provide a little context here to

1821
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 6: what Josh mentioned and broke down with Baltimore and Raven.

1822
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 6: It was a November twenty fourteen game Bama LSU helped Bama.

1823
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 6: Bama pulled it out in overtime. Lane drew it up

1824
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 6: in ot Blake Sims to Brandon Green for twenty four yards,

1825
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 6: got him down to the one. Yep, And that's what

1826
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 6: the women game pulled out O T was pretty crazy.

1827
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 6: Lane Kiffin designed that. Huh do you think Lane designed that?

1828
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 1: Was it with Lane?

1829
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 6: It was with Lane?

1830
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Lane was there in fourteen.

1831
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:35,640
Speaker 6: Yep, Lane called it.

1832
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, that didn't surprise me. Lane's a good coach. Lane.

1833
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 1: He always finds me that ship. Another great visor, maan,

1834
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 1: another great ri advisor. I love.

1835
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:47,799
Speaker 2: He's a advisory. Group chat huh, group chat advisor?

1836
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 1: Coach, we're gonnadvisor. This do you have to wear your

1837
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 1: advisor to do the group chat? Oh? The group chat

1838
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 1: without being on that's the group chat.

1839
01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 2: You know how many of those I have in my office?

1840
01:27:59,400 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: Probably a bit.

1841
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 2: And there's different years because they change.

1842
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 1: They changed, and you get like the he'd have like

1843
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 1: the military advisor, or like breast cancer.

1844
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 3: I like the I wore the breast cancer like I

1845
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 3: didn't like the other peaks.

1846
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 6: I'm with you.

1847
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 1: Because Bill would drop the visor every once in a

1848
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,600
Speaker 1: while in a Miami game. You ever give him a

1849
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 1: look like coach, No, that's my thing. No, I just

1850
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:26,800
Speaker 1: know because maybe you know your daughter up you know,

1851
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,720
Speaker 1: in the stands, be like nobody. No, already wore the

1852
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 1: white with the white, so I was good.

1853
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 3: Thereby he doesn't have the white sleeves, So that's all right,

1854
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 3: you're not You're not there.

1855
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 2: He's not stealing me, not swagger jacking.

1856
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:44,600
Speaker 6: But did the did the hoodie sleeves ever get like

1857
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:46,640
Speaker 6: O D blown out when you push him up?

1858
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 1: Or no? They bounced back.

1859
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 6: They bounce back because.

1860
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 3: I always wore like it was like a you know,

1861
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 3: like a tighter Every once in a while you'd have

1862
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 3: to cut like the little edge just so it wasn't like,

1863
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 3: you know, like like you know, when you're done with

1864
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 3: the game, like your veins are ready to you want

1865
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 3: take an iv.

1866
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:04,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I would always keep my tape on

1867
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 1: from IVY because it makes me look way more rainier.

1868
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 1: I won't be looking tight. Look, guys, I took a shot. No,

1869
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 1: it was because you lose your circulation, then your veins

1870
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 1: could get even crazier.

1871
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 6: Should we should we get into this game?

1872
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 1: All right?

1873
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 6: Back back to this cold, cold day in Foxborough where

1874
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 6: the feels like is eight at kickoff this fe and

1875
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 6: back to our boy Bill Denovich is roughing this thing.

1876
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 1: Yep.

1877
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:33,839
Speaker 6: The Ravens come into Foxborough. Start out hot flackout, completes

1878
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 6: his first eight passes, gets two on the board, quick

1879
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 6: kamar Ake and Steve Smith. Smith beats Darrell Reeves for

1880
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,679
Speaker 6: the first time like ever in that matchup that dates

1881
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:47,640
Speaker 6: back to Jets against Panthers, Bucks against Panthers. Revis had

1882
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 6: his number man, but Steve got him for a couple

1883
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 6: and got him for a TD there.

1884
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 1: Uh.

1885
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:56,799
Speaker 6: Then the Pats get back on there with a Brady

1886
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 6: Rushing touchdown cuts it to seven. Then a dol It

1887
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:03,879
Speaker 6: t ties it back up, erased the first fourteen point deficit.

1888
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 6: Then before the half, Tom throws a brutal pick which

1889
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 6: leads to an Owen Daniel's TD.

1890
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 2: Jack said, brutal, brutal, Sorry, he said that.

1891
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 3: He said it was a brutal pick. You didn't say

1892
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:17,680
Speaker 3: it was a brutal pick, And I didn't say. I

1893
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:20,040
Speaker 3: didn't say it was a brutal pick at all. I

1894
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 3: just that it was an interception. He said it was

1895
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 3: a brutal pick. Tom, if you're watching, Jack said, this.

1896
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 1: Situationally, this kind of brutal.

1897
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 7: I mean when I see over the middle, you know.

1898
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 2: The you know, the interesting part about that was, and

1899
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 2: this is probably as bad of a circumstance.

1900
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:44,799
Speaker 1: That we had.

1901
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 3: I bet you that you and I can remember we

1902
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 3: had run four plays and we were down fourteen zero.

1903
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't have the ball.

1904
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 3: Well, they scored and then we got the ball back.

1905
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:58,719
Speaker 3: We got a first down, then we went first, second,

1906
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:01,680
Speaker 3: third down, punted it. Then they scored again. So it

1907
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 3: was like fourteen nothing. And I remember the feeling in

1908
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 3: the stadium, you know, because they start you could start

1909
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 3: to feel the panic. Oh yeah, a little bit, and

1910
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:12,679
Speaker 3: they're like you could hear those little murmurs like, oh,

1911
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 3: we're gonna get blown out here.

1912
01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:16,679
Speaker 1: We had that in the back of our mind because

1913
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 1: they blew our the brakes off us. And know nine,

1914
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 1: my rookie year.

1915
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 3: Was fourteen to nothing and we had run four plays

1916
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 3: and I was I remember, I remember going we got

1917
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 3: a score on this drive.

1918
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:29,960
Speaker 1: You probably thought to yourself, thank god, we don't have

1919
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 1: to run the ball on this.

1920
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 2: One where it says Brandon Bolden was our leading rusher

1921
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 2: for three carries seven yards.

1922
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 1: Now, can you explain to the listener when you're down

1923
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 1: fourteen points in a in a must win game, a winner,

1924
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 1: go home game, what do you do as a play caller?

1925
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:53,880
Speaker 1: Are you throwing that script completely out? Are you going

1926
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 1: back to fundamental plays that you know that we know

1927
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:58,880
Speaker 1: how to work. What was the mindset when we go

1928
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 1: down fourteen the first I'm not even the second time,

1929
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:03,760
Speaker 1: and then you know, transitioning after when we got it

1930
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:04,799
Speaker 1: to the second time.

1931
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:08,040
Speaker 3: I think the first time when you're first of all,

1932
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 3: we have to have poise if we're going to ask

1933
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 3: you to have poise. So I mean, I can't lose

1934
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 3: my mind on the sideline and then tell you guys

1935
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 3: to be calm on the field. So I think for

1936
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:23,440
Speaker 3: me in those types of situations, it's stick.

1937
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 1: With what we're gonna do.

1938
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:29,600
Speaker 3: We don't even have enough evidence to make a change, Like,

1939
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 3: we've run four plays, so should I switch the game plan?

1940
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. We didn't, we haven't done anything.

1941
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:36,640
Speaker 3: So to me, it's we don't have enough evidence for

1942
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 3: me to make a decision like that. So it's basically, hey,

1943
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:41,760
Speaker 3: calm down, let's just try to get one on the

1944
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 3: board and keep playing. We got a long way to go,

1945
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 3: which we did, and then you know, you make it

1946
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:49,600
Speaker 3: fourteen to seven. We got a little confidence now we

1947
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:51,679
Speaker 3: know we can drive the ball on them, and then

1948
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:54,680
Speaker 3: you know, eventually we tie it up at fourteen. But

1949
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:57,639
Speaker 3: I I've always felt like The biggest tug of war

1950
01:32:57,760 --> 01:32:59,480
Speaker 3: you go through as the play caller.

1951
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 2: In a elimination game is doing something.

1952
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 3: That's not in your comfort zone, like you wanna, like

1953
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 3: you want to hurry up and get fourteen points on

1954
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 3: the board, Like there's no I don't have any calls

1955
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:16,640
Speaker 3: on the call sheet, So I'm not gonna go to

1956
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 3: my my chunk passes and shot playlist and call like

1957
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:23,519
Speaker 3: four of them in a row and hope that they

1958
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 3: all work. Like you can't you start playing the game

1959
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:28,680
Speaker 3: like that, The next thing you know, you're gonna get

1960
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:31,599
Speaker 3: sacked or strip sacked, or throw an interception or turn

1961
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 3: the ball over. And now it's like being in quicksand

1962
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 3: when you're an elimination game, the more you struggle, the

1963
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 3: quicker you go down, you know. And so to me,

1964
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 3: that took me a little while to learn that. You know, like,

1965
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 3: take a deep breath and stay with it. You guys

1966
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 3: are good enough on the field. You're gonna make plays.

1967
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 3: Let's just call the things that are.

1968
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 1: Now.

1969
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 3: If there was an adjustment that we felt like we

1970
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 3: had to make, then you make it.

1971
01:33:57,240 --> 01:33:58,840
Speaker 2: But we didn't have enough evidence right there.

1972
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:00,760
Speaker 3: But I think you got to try to, you know,

1973
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 3: you got to try to sow your breathing down, honestly

1974
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:05,640
Speaker 3: and just go to the next series and see if

1975
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 3: we can strain together some good plays.

1976
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:10,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's exactly what we had to do. And I

1977
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 1: always remember, I always remember you saying in all our

1978
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 1: comeback from behind victories that you you know, we can't

1979
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 1: win it all one play. No, you can't. You can't

1980
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:20,559
Speaker 1: get the points in one place. So if we all

1981
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 1: collectively do our job one play at a time, that's

1982
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:26,600
Speaker 1: when we're going to give ourselves the best opportunity to

1983
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:28,559
Speaker 1: go out and win. That's right, you know. And and

1984
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 1: that's kind of what we did. Now, what are the

1985
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:34,040
Speaker 1: halftime adjustments going in after this? So you know you

1986
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:36,280
Speaker 1: had in the back pocket, we had our formations, we

1987
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 1: had Raven, and we talked about them.

1988
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 3: I remember remember that on the board, like, hey, all right,

1989
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 3: we held these purposefully, Baltimore Raven. Is there any questions

1990
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:46,879
Speaker 3: on what we're gonna do with the operation?

1991
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:47,639
Speaker 1: Okay?

1992
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 3: I think I even put up there like just be

1993
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 3: ready on the double pass, you know.

1994
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:54,599
Speaker 2: And then we talked about a couple.

1995
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:56,599
Speaker 3: Other things because they were playing a little bit more

1996
01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 3: man to man coverage than we thought they would, and

1997
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 3: you know, so I felt like there wasn't a lot

1998
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 3: of adjusting to what they were doing because I think

1999
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 3: we were dictating it because we were throwing.

2000
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:10,640
Speaker 2: We were just throwing. That's what we were doing, you know.

2001
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:14,640
Speaker 3: So I don't feel like it was you know, like

2002
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:17,599
Speaker 3: a crazy big like, hey, let's swing this, other than

2003
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:20,320
Speaker 3: we knew we were going to spring something on them

2004
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 3: that we hadn't done yet.

2005
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:22,599
Speaker 1: That was the big thing.

2006
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:25,799
Speaker 3: The two drives that really put us in the second

2007
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 3: hole was when we got the ball back in the

2008
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 3: second quarter with a minute forty something left and it

2009
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 3: was tied, and we didn't do what we always try

2010
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 3: to do, which is take the last shot and score something,

2011
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:39,800
Speaker 3: and then we go three and out to start the

2012
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:42,800
Speaker 3: third quarter. It was like the game could have been

2013
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 3: completely different in our favor, and yet we didn't take

2014
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:52,800
Speaker 3: advantage of the opportunities with this possessions, you know, And

2015
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 3: and so now we end up, you know, falling behind

2016
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 3: by another fourteen, by another fourteen that justin forceet TV

2017
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 3: from Flack after a three and out to start the

2018
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,640
Speaker 3: third but get back get back into it with the

2019
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 3: gronk TD cuts it to twenty eight twenty one then

2020
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 3: with four to twenty left in the third, after we

2021
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:14,479
Speaker 3: scored that touchdown, I remember, that's that's when you came

2022
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 3: up to me, I did. I said, do you need

2023
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 3: any lead time for the double pass? And you and

2024
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:20,600
Speaker 3: you said what? And I said, do I have to

2025
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 3: tell you that it's coming? Meaning like you need to take.

2026
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:27,000
Speaker 2: Your red gloves off or whatever you know exact.

2027
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:28,920
Speaker 1: You're cutters or whatever.

2028
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:30,599
Speaker 3: They are, Like, what do you do? Do I need

2029
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 3: to tell you that this is coming? Like fuck, five

2030
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:35,840
Speaker 3: minutes in advance? You're like, no, no, no, yeah, yeah's

2031
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 3: what you said. Just throw it, just call it whenever

2032
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 3: you want. I'm like, okay, you know, so we so

2033
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 3: we did. Yeah, that was the first touchdown, was the

2034
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:47,840
Speaker 3: one we actually did the Raven Baltimore formation the first time.

2035
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 3: First time, we're down by fourteen, and then when we

2036
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:52,679
Speaker 3: scored one, that's when we went.

2037
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:55,760
Speaker 1: With the double pass. A double pass. Speaking of double pass,

2038
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 1: which we had actually called earlier in the season against

2039
01:36:58,200 --> 01:36:58,719
Speaker 1: the Chiefs.

2040
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:01,639
Speaker 2: Against the Chiefs, right, just didn't we just didn't throw

2041
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:04,760
Speaker 2: it over there? We called it and you know it

2042
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:06,679
Speaker 2: was Dola gonna throw it, wasn't it?

2043
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:08,800
Speaker 1: Was it you or Dola? I don't remember. I watched

2044
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 1: this morning. It was gonna be you, Okayna.

2045
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:14,559
Speaker 2: But Dola was like saying coverage, like we couldn't do it.

2046
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:16,639
Speaker 7: Was trying to call you off when you were.

2047
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:19,600
Speaker 1: In Yeah, can we go into the second time I

2048
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:20,680
Speaker 1: threw the football.

2049
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:24,200
Speaker 6: Twenty nineteen in Philly.

2050
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can do that. It was a great story,

2051
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 2: Juice's story.

2052
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 8: Jesus told his side, your side, my memories really fucked up.

2053
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:38,639
Speaker 1: The night before the game. This is the story.

2054
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we well this wasn't the same play.

2055
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,479
Speaker 3: No, it's a different play. Throw it here, throw it

2056
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 3: back and set up the catch and run. And in

2057
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:52,880
Speaker 3: the what we we always did like a little ballroom,

2058
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 3: which always felt like you guys loved that.

2059
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:55,640
Speaker 1: I loved it.

2060
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,719
Speaker 3: To reiterate, it was almost like a very comforting feeling

2061
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:00,720
Speaker 3: when you walked out of there, like we all we

2062
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 3: all got it.

2063
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we all got it. And it was loose and

2064
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 1: and so. But it wasn't always loose depending on like

2065
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 1: the games. Sometimes we go in there running hard and stuff.

2066
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 3: I no, but that was that was But but I

2067
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 3: don't think we ever went in there like it wasn't

2068
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 3: like a big like, it wasn't like a big like

2069
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:16,400
Speaker 3: teaching session at all.

2070
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:18,680
Speaker 1: It was I would I would call the play, you

2071
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:19,479
Speaker 1: guys would get on.

2072
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 2: You would do it and walk through it, and that

2073
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:21,800
Speaker 2: was it.

2074
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 1: But if you had like a new player coming in

2075
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:26,400
Speaker 1: that had a big role, that was different, you know,

2076
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 1: like if he was nervous and we were all kind

2077
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 1: of watching them too as well.

2078
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 2: And Julian Julian, well, I'll tell him to tell two

2079
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 2: stories quickly. The when he came back in two thousand

2080
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 2: eighteen eighteen eighteen, So the walkthrough because we played on

2081
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:46,639
Speaker 2: a Thursday night so we didn't have practice.

2082
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:49,160
Speaker 1: I didn't have any practice that week because it's just

2083
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 1: walk throughs. Well had no he does.

2084
01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 3: He does the hotel like walk through and he's soaked

2085
01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 3: because he's like running routes in the ball like but

2086
01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 3: nobody else. And Tom always had like a little lacrosseball

2087
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:08,720
Speaker 3: and he would bounce it to you to like show you.

2088
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 2: And Julian is literally like you could see everything, like

2089
01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:15,280
Speaker 2: he was just drenched, and I remember the other guys

2090
01:39:15,320 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 2: were like looking at him, like what is going on

2091
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:20,960
Speaker 2: with this guy? I'm like, yeah, he's a little he's

2092
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:23,800
Speaker 2: he's obsessive compulsive. Right now, I think he needs to

2093
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 2: play a game.

2094
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:28,719
Speaker 3: I dot up a wheel for you in the first possession.

2095
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 3: He so anyway, the Philly So, the Philly game was

2096
01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:36,559
Speaker 3: the second throw that night in the hotel.

2097
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 1: The night before the game, we go walk through it.

2098
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:42,640
Speaker 1: Tom dribbled bounces the ball to Julian. Julian gets the

2099
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:43,240
Speaker 1: ball and.

2100
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 2: Then he looks, he looks and throws it to Phil

2101
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 2: Bill just wandering up the field trying to get at

2102
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 2: the defense to come this way, and Philly catches it.

2103
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:58,680
Speaker 2: And I look at him and I'm like, you can

2104
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:01,599
Speaker 2: do that, just throw the ball over, throw the ball,

2105
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:04,680
Speaker 2: and I think we actually did it again, just so

2106
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 2: he so he.

2107
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 7: Would like do it right, you know what I mean.

2108
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:10,000
Speaker 2: And then we get in the game and he gets

2109
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 2: the ball and he looks down the field and Philly's open,

2110
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 2: and then he lets it go and I'm just like

2111
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 2: and then he caught it, and I'm like, I don't know.

2112
01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 2: Those are the ones that's coaches where you're just like,

2113
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 2: that's a hell of a play.

2114
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 1: Figures, if I would have flipp my hipsky was in

2115
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 1: my face, I would have got you got you did

2116
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:26,599
Speaker 1: get I got drilled. He got drilled, drilled, I come

2117
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:28,679
Speaker 1: running off. When I come running off.

2118
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 2: You're fucking dangerous, Yure, you are dangerous.

2119
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:33,880
Speaker 1: You're dangerous.

2120
01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:36,600
Speaker 3: But that was all I remember because you were the

2121
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:38,439
Speaker 3: only one that threw a touchdown past that game.

2122
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So I remember like like and then he

2123
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 1: would come in the next day and he would put ice.

2124
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:46,559
Speaker 2: He would have his shoulder wrapped in ice in the

2125
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:49,200
Speaker 2: and he would sit in the front, you know by

2126
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 2: but like, yeah, I gotta you know, I always come

2127
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:53,760
Speaker 2: in like the last person to come in to wait.

2128
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:56,400
Speaker 1: He would just be like, I'm like, coach, you got

2129
01:40:56,439 --> 01:41:01,559
Speaker 1: the door. Don't worry, you got that. I say that

2130
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:03,280
Speaker 1: the tradeing used to have called the ice fed in

2131
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:04,360
Speaker 1: front of everyone.

2132
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 6: Looking like you just threw a complete game shutout.

2133
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, literally, like it's Randy Johnson after a nine inning.

2134
01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 6: Oh my, I will say that pass your dangerous Maverick

2135
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 6: moment in Philly put jewels at five of six, one

2136
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 6: hundred and forty one yards and two tds as a passer.

2137
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 1: There you go. This is reading. Had to be exceptional.

2138
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:24,680
Speaker 6: That had to be amazing.

2139
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:27,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. We had the the one in the Super Bowl

2140
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 1: to Dion Oh man, he was close to it. He

2141
01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:33,800
Speaker 1: almost made that he almost made that catch. That was it.

2142
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:36,360
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have thrown it. That was nuts. What you

2143
01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:37,599
Speaker 1: mean was he open?

2144
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:38,720
Speaker 2: You know, he got him.

2145
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 1: It was like, just buy him.

2146
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:42,680
Speaker 3: The guy did a good job of peeling on it. Yeah,

2147
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:44,920
Speaker 3: but the rest of the defense was over there.

2148
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:46,160
Speaker 1: That game was a.

2149
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 7: Blur point three.

2150
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:50,200
Speaker 1: That's perfect.

2151
01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:50,759
Speaker 2: That's perfect.

2152
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:53,720
Speaker 1: That's perfect. Someone say that's pretty good, bro. Someone say,

2153
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 1: let's get back at the game.

2154
01:41:57,479 --> 01:42:00,040
Speaker 6: All right, So we uh were moving here into the

2155
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 6: third quarter, we talked the Gronk TV cuts it back

2156
01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:04,120
Speaker 6: to twenty eight twenty one.

2157
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 1: Four to twenty left in the fourth is the double.

2158
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 6: Pass moment in the third? In the third in the third,

2159
01:42:10,439 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 6: in the third, four to twenty Oh, I'm not.

2160
01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:17,040
Speaker 1: I mean, no, guy, just get a baby. He made

2161
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:19,200
Speaker 1: me watch the game again. I got this in my hand. Yeah,

2162
01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 1: not just in there. You know, everyone talks about you know,

2163
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:24,559
Speaker 1: these offensive geniuses, they always have this. They could just

2164
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 1: they know the place.

2165
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 6: And then later after that game's tied back up twenty eight,

2166
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 6: twenty eight, Flacco throws a pick, his first pick in

2167
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:35,960
Speaker 6: a long time in the playoffs. Yep, Devin and couldn't

2168
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 6: capitalize on that bough punt give him back the ball

2169
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:42,800
Speaker 6: field goal. Down thirty one to twenty eight at this point,

2170
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:46,719
Speaker 6: then in the fourth get the ball with ten minutes left,

2171
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 6: go on a nice ten plays, seventy four yard over

2172
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 6: five minute drive that ends into Jojo Lafel touchdown up

2173
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:55,559
Speaker 6: thirty five, thirty one.

2174
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:58,519
Speaker 1: Yep. That was the drive of the game. That was.

2175
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 3: That was a really and it was all passing, you know.

2176
01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:06,559
Speaker 3: And I remember the one thing about that that drive

2177
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 3: was we didn't need to do anything in a hurry,

2178
01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 3: So trying to force the ball to go further down

2179
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 3: the field and take more chances holding on to it longer, yeah,

2180
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:22,960
Speaker 3: was not really something that we had to do because

2181
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 3: we only needed to score once. Yeah, So it was like, okay,

2182
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:29,240
Speaker 3: like we can take a three step, we can hit

2183
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 3: something short.

2184
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:33,080
Speaker 1: Which goes into play calling. Adjusting, you know, he had

2185
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:37,439
Speaker 1: to adjust. Josh had to adjust from being down fourteen. Yep.

2186
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:41,120
Speaker 1: The psychological battles of keeping the team that a we're

2187
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 1: sticking with what we're doing, then being down fourteen again,

2188
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:46,760
Speaker 1: we're you know, we're we're we're trying to fight for

2189
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:52,000
Speaker 1: time this that to now reverse engineering it to like

2190
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 1: all right now times on our side, we don't have

2191
01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 1: to rush.

2192
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 3: No, which is that's that's and it helps the protection

2193
01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 3: helps protect. We're gonna we're going to take short profits

2194
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:04,960
Speaker 3: and do that. And I thought that that was a methodical,

2195
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 3: Like you said, ten plays, five minutes, we're just trying

2196
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:10,679
Speaker 3: to take the profit, keep moving it down the field.

2197
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:13,320
Speaker 3: And then when we had our one chance, you know,

2198
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:15,000
Speaker 3: Joe had single coverage.

2199
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:15,639
Speaker 1: I believe it was.

2200
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:18,680
Speaker 3: Cover one, and you know, you know, Tommy made a

2201
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 3: great throw and Jojo made a great catch, So it

2202
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 3: was it was different. The mindset of that drive was like,

2203
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 3: just keep we don't have to do we don't need

2204
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:28,800
Speaker 3: two touchdowns.

2205
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:31,800
Speaker 1: We already started feeling the momentum coming though, yeah we did,

2206
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:34,400
Speaker 1: you know, and the momentum is real when you feel

2207
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 1: that in the momentum fuels the confidence of the unit

2208
01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 1: that's out there.

2209
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:43,200
Speaker 3: The loudest I've ever heard that stadium was when you

2210
01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:47,679
Speaker 3: threw the double passing score that I've never heard that stadium.

2211
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:50,479
Speaker 3: That stadium has been loud a number of times in

2212
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 3: our lives. That was the loudest noise that I personally

2213
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 3: had heard, like because it was almost like, you know,

2214
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 3: like we we came back once then we're down two

2215
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:04,280
Speaker 3: touches and so they're like, oh no, not again. Then

2216
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 3: we come back again and and to do it that

2217
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:09,559
Speaker 3: way with you hitting dance. I mean, that was as

2218
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:11,840
Speaker 3: noisy as I think. I can never remember it.

2219
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:14,599
Speaker 1: That was. That was a fun That was a fun play,

2220
01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:17,080
Speaker 1: but it wasn't over so well.

2221
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:19,200
Speaker 7: Before we do that, we let we have players on.

2222
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 8: We like to walk through, like a specific moment jenneral

2223
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 8: from the Big Game. We've heard Jules's perspective, We've heard

2224
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:26,800
Speaker 8: Danny mcdola's perspective of that play. I love to hear

2225
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 8: your like beat by beat perspective of that double pass play.

2226
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 2: So down seven, then they punted, got the ball back.

2227
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:38,760
Speaker 1: I remember it.

2228
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 3: Was ready and I had already checked with Bill, you know,

2229
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:46,320
Speaker 3: like we're good. He goes whenever you know, whatever you

2230
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 3: want to do it, I'm good. And you know, because

2231
01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:51,200
Speaker 3: I always felt like whenever you're running something, it's a

2232
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:54,519
Speaker 3: little bit screwy. Yeah, you know, just you better check

2233
01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:56,760
Speaker 3: with your big boss and make sure that you're you know,

2234
01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 3: you're not doing it, and he doesn't want you to

2235
01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 3: like fake punts, and you know, so was he already

2236
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 3: signed off.

2237
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 1: Whenever you want to do it, and I.

2238
01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:08,600
Speaker 3: Just didn't feel right about doing it, not like I

2239
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:11,479
Speaker 3: wanted to get a first down and then do it.

2240
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do it like the first play

2241
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:15,760
Speaker 1: of the drive. I didn't want to.

2242
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:18,760
Speaker 3: Do it on second and eight, like after the first

2243
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:20,840
Speaker 3: play of the drive. I wanted to, like, can we

2244
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:22,880
Speaker 3: get a first down and then once we get the

2245
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 3: first down, let's try it, you know what I mean?

2246
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 1: And so we did.

2247
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:28,439
Speaker 3: We got a first down, and then I think it

2248
01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:31,240
Speaker 3: was right around midfield and it was kind of the

2249
01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:34,640
Speaker 3: right time to do it, and Dean acquiesced.

2250
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:38,760
Speaker 1: He brought the star Blitz off the side that we

2251
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 1: threw the ball to. He gave us.

2252
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:42,160
Speaker 3: We didn't know we were going to get that, but

2253
01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:45,639
Speaker 3: it made the play better because we only had one

2254
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 3: guy out there that we needed to block and it

2255
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 3: wasn't two and so was that gronk out there? I

2256
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:54,240
Speaker 3: think it was Gronk out there. And then Danny did

2257
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 3: a good job of hesitating and going by. But you know,

2258
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 3: after I asked him if he needed anything time, he

2259
01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:03,840
Speaker 3: said no, Bill had already you know, signed off on

2260
01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:06,000
Speaker 3: the whole thing, and I just really wanted to get

2261
01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:09,320
Speaker 3: a first down. So it wasn't so like almost like desperate,

2262
01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:12,120
Speaker 3: like we gotta try this right off the bat, you

2263
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:15,160
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I want to, yeah, get a

2264
01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 3: little get a little bit of a momentum going in

2265
01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:19,479
Speaker 3: the drive and then give ourselves a chance to see

2266
01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:21,439
Speaker 3: if we could hit it. So and it was perfect

2267
01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:23,720
Speaker 3: because it was on our sideline. I love doing those

2268
01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 3: things when they're on your sideline.

2269
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:29,120
Speaker 1: So when you're seeing when I'm going over in motion,

2270
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 1: what's going through your mind? It's not man.

2271
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:34,000
Speaker 3: And then when I saw the guy start to creep

2272
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:37,240
Speaker 3: in and he was gonna blitz, I'm like, I don't know.

2273
01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 3: We couldn't have drawn up a better like them, playing

2274
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:44,519
Speaker 3: a better defense for the play. It was really just

2275
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:47,439
Speaker 3: gonna matter whether the corner bit it or he didn't.

2276
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:51,280
Speaker 3: And you know, Danny did a good job of bluffing

2277
01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:52,760
Speaker 3: it and then went by.

2278
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:55,400
Speaker 8: You mentioned, you know, want to do a playlia like

2279
01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:57,720
Speaker 8: that after first down and doing it on your own sideline.

2280
01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:00,960
Speaker 8: These little details? Is that like to factor him with

2281
01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:03,839
Speaker 8: your play calling? Is that innate? Is that something with reps?

2282
01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:06,120
Speaker 8: Like where do you pick up those little details when

2283
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 8: it comes into your crafts and play call?

2284
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 1: I think it's just probably experience.

2285
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:13,800
Speaker 3: You know, I don't like I think when you're coming

2286
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 3: off the sideline and like the defense is kind of

2287
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:20,040
Speaker 3: ready for almost anything, you know, Like, I don't think

2288
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:23,679
Speaker 3: that's a great time to like spring your craziest play

2289
01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 3: on them all the time. I think it's almost like

2290
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 3: you run a play, you run a second play. Oh,

2291
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:31,360
Speaker 3: you got a first down. So they're kind of like,

2292
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:33,439
Speaker 3: all right, they're just driving the ball. They're just trying

2293
01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:36,000
Speaker 3: to do the same stuff they've been doing, you know,

2294
01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:37,320
Speaker 3: throwing the ball here.

2295
01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 1: Dink and dunk, which is what I wanted them to

2296
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,519
Speaker 1: be thinking. And they got.

2297
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:44,599
Speaker 3: So we get a first down, and we're into a drive.

2298
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:49,559
Speaker 3: The defensive coordinator he knows we're not going fast. He's

2299
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:52,679
Speaker 3: into his drive now, you know what I mean, meaning

2300
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:55,720
Speaker 3: meaning Dean's you know, you kind of get into a

2301
01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:57,599
Speaker 3: rhythm of the drive itself.

2302
01:48:57,680 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 1: Each drive is.

2303
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:03,519
Speaker 3: Different, and so we we first down, play huddle, second down, play,

2304
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 3: first down, go back to the huddle, you know what

2305
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:09,960
Speaker 3: I mean. So now Dean's in his rhythm too, and so.

2306
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:14,840
Speaker 2: Again the it just I thought that was a better

2307
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:16,799
Speaker 2: way to do it, honestly, then go out.

2308
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:18,519
Speaker 1: There and be desperate and try to hurry up and

2309
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:21,200
Speaker 1: get to it. And you know, people don't realize these

2310
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how it's in other places,

2311
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:30,280
Speaker 1: but there's a department that studies and gives everyone around

2312
01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:32,800
Speaker 1: the league what they're doing to our coaches, and they

2313
01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:35,080
Speaker 1: look at it. These guys study it so that you know,

2314
01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:39,320
Speaker 1: you could always see when it's the best opportunity. He's

2315
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:41,519
Speaker 1: probably seen this situation go down. May not be this

2316
01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 1: specific trick play, but a different trick play that you know,

2317
01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 1: a team off of. You know, a big play makes

2318
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:51,840
Speaker 1: another big play feels desperate, you know. So these guys

2319
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:54,880
Speaker 1: they're always watching the game, yep. And that's how they

2320
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:58,160
Speaker 1: get their experiences, not only through coaching it, but watching

2321
01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:02,000
Speaker 1: other coaches. The great co coaches will use their experiences

2322
01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:03,759
Speaker 1: and implicate it into their.

2323
01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:08,920
Speaker 2: And I've made I've I've called enough plays and made

2324
01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:12,280
Speaker 2: enough mistakes when I was younger, you know, to like,

2325
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:14,960
Speaker 2: all right, well that sucked, you know what I mean,

2326
01:50:15,080 --> 01:50:17,719
Speaker 2: Like that totally wasn't the right time to do that,

2327
01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:20,760
Speaker 2: you know, And you just I think learning through your

2328
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:24,960
Speaker 2: failings as you're going is a helpful thing.

2329
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:27,640
Speaker 3: So you have a little bit of wisdom, you know,

2330
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:30,760
Speaker 3: after you've put enough pelts on the wall, you know

2331
01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:33,360
Speaker 3: where now you kind of know like that's I remember

2332
01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:35,320
Speaker 3: not to do that because of this game.

2333
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:37,720
Speaker 2: And I tried it and it backfired, you know.

2334
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 3: And the other thing I would say about this is,

2335
01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:43,080
Speaker 3: and you would attest to this, we practiced those things,

2336
01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:47,880
Speaker 3: and we didn't act like they were like so special

2337
01:50:48,439 --> 01:50:51,160
Speaker 3: that it was like impossible for us to succeed at them.

2338
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:53,040
Speaker 2: I treated those.

2339
01:50:52,840 --> 01:50:55,880
Speaker 3: Things like almost like a play action pass, like a

2340
01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:58,639
Speaker 3: flea flicker or a double pat like if you rapid enough,

2341
01:50:58,680 --> 01:50:59,960
Speaker 3: what's the difference.

2342
01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:02,280
Speaker 1: Other than the ball handling?

2343
01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:05,240
Speaker 3: And yeah, like but I trusted you enough and we

2344
01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:07,599
Speaker 3: repped it enough where I was like, I didn't call

2345
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 3: it and go like this like what's gonna happen? I

2346
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:14,160
Speaker 3: called it going as long as the defense is gonna

2347
01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 3: give it to us. I've seen us execute this many times.

2348
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:19,920
Speaker 2: Look at he's got this smile, like, yeah, tell him

2349
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:21,759
Speaker 2: how many times I hit it in practice?

2350
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:24,400
Speaker 1: I think I overthrew him three or four times.

2351
01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 8: You were gloves too, right, Yeah, because always ships on

2352
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:31,799
Speaker 8: quarterbacks when they wear their gloves.

2353
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:33,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm not gonna take my glove off. Well

2354
01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:36,200
Speaker 1: that's why that's the thing is you take it off.

2355
01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:42,400
Speaker 2: Then these guys Baltimore might have been perceptive enough to.

2356
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:44,160
Speaker 1: This guy Michael Jackson.

2357
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:48,200
Speaker 6: Out there gloves like lad Guerrero, come on now.

2358
01:51:48,760 --> 01:51:48,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2359
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:51,240
Speaker 6: But but to coach his point, I think that's a

2360
01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:53,559
Speaker 6: that's cool that like it's not one of these like

2361
01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:56,960
Speaker 6: super trick plays and like crazy things. Because we were

2362
01:51:57,000 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 6: watching we did the the AFC Championship in in Arrowhead

2363
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:03,599
Speaker 6: with Ernie and there was a fleaflicker on that drive

2364
01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:06,400
Speaker 6: in o t Yeah, like just a regular play, Like

2365
01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:09,120
Speaker 6: that's a testament to that practice.

2366
01:52:09,479 --> 01:52:11,280
Speaker 3: And it was, and it was like a comfort level

2367
01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:13,840
Speaker 3: for you as the play caller, like I don't feel

2368
01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:16,479
Speaker 3: like I'm about to mess the game up because I've

2369
01:52:16,479 --> 01:52:19,240
Speaker 3: watched us and I trust our guys enough and trust

2370
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:21,240
Speaker 3: you guys to do it. So and you don't either.

2371
01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:24,040
Speaker 3: You're not thinking like, oh god, he called a flea flicker.

2372
01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:26,120
Speaker 1: You're just like, but what it is, what it is,

2373
01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:31,519
Speaker 1: He's got to block the goddamn safety rights furg Steelers.

2374
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:33,639
Speaker 6: And Yeah, but to get back to this drive, next

2375
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:35,880
Speaker 6: gen stats will tell us this was the first time

2376
01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 6: a player in a playoff game has had a nine

2377
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:40,960
Speaker 6: yard reception and a fifty one yard TD in the

2378
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 6: same drive. It's next gen stats for you guys.

2379
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:47,200
Speaker 1: I don't back what the that's that'll never that'll never

2380
01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 1: happen again.

2381
01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:52,040
Speaker 2: Ever, that's like Haley's comment, nobody's ever gonna have a

2382
01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:53,800
Speaker 2: nine yard I remember.

2383
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:56,280
Speaker 1: One d T pass in the same drive.

2384
01:52:56,040 --> 01:52:57,479
Speaker 2: In the same divisional round.

2385
01:52:57,840 --> 01:53:01,160
Speaker 1: He he knows, Josh, those is ship because I remember

2386
01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:04,840
Speaker 1: it was what was Indianapolis where a house to punted

2387
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:09,560
Speaker 1: on a slant and then I almost broke the.

2388
01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:10,439
Speaker 2: The reverse in the in twenty twelve.

2389
01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I come off to the sideline and he

2390
01:53:12,439 --> 01:53:13,960
Speaker 1: comes up to me. He goes, he can't get three

2391
01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:15,439
Speaker 1: more yards. You would have been the only person in

2392
01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:17,920
Speaker 1: the history of the game. But at that time return

2393
01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:18,519
Speaker 1: one and.

2394
01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:22,639
Speaker 7: Rush one d for the sick and McCaffrey just run,

2395
01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:23,439
Speaker 7: catch and throw.

2396
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 1: Recently yeah here, yeah it happened. But at that point,

2397
01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:28,840
Speaker 1: should we put a bow on this bad boy? Put

2398
01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:29,720
Speaker 1: it all right?

2399
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:33,320
Speaker 6: So Flacco leads him down nine plays fifty three yards,

2400
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 6: gets in gets in territory Doron Harmon with the pick

2401
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 6: picky punt.

2402
01:53:38,320 --> 01:53:40,000
Speaker 1: A lot of them get a lot of that beast

2403
01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:41,639
Speaker 1: beast closer.

2404
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:45,800
Speaker 6: Flaco gets the ball back though tries the Hail Mary unsuccessful.

2405
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 1: Pats win thirty five thirty one. We'll going thank god

2406
01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:50,400
Speaker 1: he pushed the guy at the end.

2407
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:51,160
Speaker 6: Smart play.

2408
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:53,040
Speaker 1: That was the balls up to the logan. Ryan a

2409
01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:53,920
Speaker 1: smart football player.

2410
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 8: Yep, very anything just because you're a coach, you're a

2411
01:53:57,200 --> 01:54:01,000
Speaker 8: smart guy. Anything we missed from this game that you

2412
01:54:01,040 --> 01:54:02,640
Speaker 8: want you did some preparation that you'd want to make

2413
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:04,360
Speaker 8: sure we hit that we didn't talk about already.

2414
01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:06,400
Speaker 3: No, I mean, you guys kind of got the idea

2415
01:54:06,439 --> 01:54:09,360
Speaker 3: of the opponent, kind of got the the our game

2416
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:10,679
Speaker 3: plan was very unique.

2417
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:11,080
Speaker 6: You know.

2418
01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:13,960
Speaker 2: We didn't intend on going in there and trying to

2419
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:16,640
Speaker 2: you know, mash it at him running the ball and

2420
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:20,920
Speaker 2: all that. You know, I don't believe that was the deal.

2421
01:54:20,960 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 2: And then the gadget stuff and we talked about the

2422
01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:25,920
Speaker 2: swings and all that. But I mean, I knew this.

2423
01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:28,400
Speaker 2: I felt getting ready for this game. They were the

2424
01:54:28,439 --> 01:54:33,120
Speaker 2: sixth seed. I felt like, this is probably.

2425
01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:36,680
Speaker 3: The best team that we're going to play the AFC

2426
01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:37,440
Speaker 3: in THEFC.

2427
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:39,760
Speaker 1: Well, that's how it always was with Baltimore. I did.

2428
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:41,560
Speaker 3: I felt like I didn't know who would be in

2429
01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:44,240
Speaker 3: the other game. You know, I think Indye beat Denver

2430
01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 3: n Yet this this team was really something, and.

2431
01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:54,680
Speaker 1: Then Indy was soft as cat shit forty five seven.

2432
01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:58,160
Speaker 2: Soft, my god soft.

2433
01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:01,480
Speaker 6: But uh, back to this one real quick. We mentioned

2434
01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:05,000
Speaker 6: it earlier in this game, the the disparity between running

2435
01:55:05,040 --> 01:55:07,280
Speaker 6: and passing. Tom Brady threw the ball fifty times in

2436
01:55:07,320 --> 01:55:09,760
Speaker 6: this one, fifty times Blacko through a forty five. So

2437
01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:12,400
Speaker 6: if you like, I bet you that they runs did

2438
01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:15,520
Speaker 6: we run? They technically thirteen because they credit Brady with

2439
01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:18,520
Speaker 6: six rushes, but I mean really seven, Like you said,

2440
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:21,400
Speaker 6: seven runs Brandon Bolden three for seven.

2441
01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:24,320
Speaker 1: And a rushing touchdown. Yeah, Brady that those were like

2442
01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:25,800
Speaker 1: his most proud moments.

2443
01:55:25,480 --> 01:55:27,800
Speaker 7: When he ran it was a thousand yard rusher.

2444
01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:31,080
Speaker 1: We know, we know, we heard about it in those

2445
01:55:31,120 --> 01:55:35,200
Speaker 1: walkthroughs night before games with the Lacrosse Bowl. So was

2446
01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:36,200
Speaker 1: he with the knail downs?

2447
01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:38,640
Speaker 8: He was deliberately doing those really close, so he wasn't

2448
01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:40,520
Speaker 8: losing yards towards his career?

2449
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 1: Was he it looked like it. I don't think he

2450
01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:46,160
Speaker 1: was doing that. I don't have enough information. I don't know,

2451
01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know the answer to that question.

2452
01:55:49,640 --> 01:55:53,640
Speaker 6: Patriots would go on to beat the soft soft Indianapolis

2453
01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:55,880
Speaker 6: called forty five to seven then going on.

2454
01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:58,440
Speaker 1: So they were really good football teams. But I just

2455
01:55:58,520 --> 01:55:59,440
Speaker 1: was always mad at him.

2456
01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:01,400
Speaker 6: I know, we're we like to rag on him on

2457
01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:03,880
Speaker 6: this pod. Uh, but we do it in jest. We

2458
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:06,960
Speaker 6: we're just joking. The Pats would go on to win

2459
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:10,400
Speaker 6: there for Super Bowl, beating the Seahawks twenty eight twenty

2460
01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:14,080
Speaker 6: four with Malcolm Butler's huge interception there at the end

2461
01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:17,960
Speaker 6: his rookie year, undrafted free agent, and H Brady would

2462
01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:20,840
Speaker 6: set the record for most.

2463
01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:22,560
Speaker 3: He went right to Malcolm Butler, he skipped you My bad,

2464
01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:23,920
Speaker 3: My bad, that's all good.

2465
01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:26,720
Speaker 1: That was a fucking historic play. I know, it was

2466
01:56:26,840 --> 01:56:31,720
Speaker 1: unbelievable play. It changed, Uh, it changed lives change, I

2467
01:56:31,720 --> 01:56:34,320
Speaker 1: mean speaking of it. That was the start of like

2468
01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:36,879
Speaker 1: the second part of the dynasty.

2469
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:39,160
Speaker 6: Took the words right out of my mouth. Jewels yep,

2470
01:56:39,720 --> 01:56:41,400
Speaker 6: kicked off dynasty two point zero.

2471
01:56:41,880 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 1: Now what you what were your thoughts going in after

2472
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:46,200
Speaker 1: after we won that first one? Do you think we

2473
01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:50,040
Speaker 1: had the legs to keep doing it? I mean, you

2474
01:56:50,160 --> 01:56:52,280
Speaker 1: never know, You never know. That's hard to say.

2475
01:56:52,400 --> 01:56:55,360
Speaker 3: I mean I knew that certainly, haven't Tommy. You always

2476
01:56:55,360 --> 01:56:57,880
Speaker 3: had a chance, Yeah, you know, and I knew that

2477
01:56:58,000 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 3: our you know, a decent chunk of our core guys

2478
01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:03,440
Speaker 3: were back, so we were excited to have a shot.

2479
01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:05,920
Speaker 1: But you never know. I mean I always tell everyone,

2480
01:57:06,080 --> 01:57:07,840
Speaker 1: I think the best team that I was on was

2481
01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:11,240
Speaker 1: that fifteen team. That was a good team. You know

2482
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:14,120
Speaker 1: we were, but it wasn't how we were blowing teams

2483
01:57:14,160 --> 01:57:18,680
Speaker 1: out there right aft the beginning of the year. Then

2484
01:57:18,720 --> 01:57:22,240
Speaker 1: he tore his knee, Soldier tears his arm, I'd break

2485
01:57:22,280 --> 01:57:24,560
Speaker 1: the foot. But like we were, if we would have

2486
01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:26,879
Speaker 1: stated that's what That's what the lead people don't realize

2487
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:28,920
Speaker 1: is you have to have that. You have to have

2488
01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:31,920
Speaker 1: your health, the health, the health bug on your side,

2489
01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:33,480
Speaker 1: you do, you know, going.

2490
01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:35,360
Speaker 2: Into two years of the same.

2491
01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:38,280
Speaker 1: It's so hard. That's why this is really impressive. What

2492
01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:41,320
Speaker 1: you know the Chiefs are doing. Yeah, you watch this

2493
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:44,000
Speaker 1: and you know it's hard to bet against him this year.

2494
01:57:44,520 --> 01:57:48,120
Speaker 1: Like I honestly believe, and I know they've had relatively

2495
01:57:48,160 --> 01:57:50,880
Speaker 1: a healthy They've had a healthy two years if you

2496
01:57:50,920 --> 01:57:54,480
Speaker 1: think of like their cornerstone players. Yeah, and anytime that

2497
01:57:54,520 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 1: we we didn't do it is because we had a

2498
01:57:57,120 --> 01:58:01,640
Speaker 1: cornerstone player go down or something along those lines. And

2499
01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:04,840
Speaker 1: they're in that function way of like where we were,

2500
01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:09,840
Speaker 1: where if we're playing our best game, you know, it

2501
01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:12,520
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what it looks like in September. We're just

2502
01:58:12,560 --> 01:58:14,640
Speaker 1: at the point where we're still learning our team because

2503
01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:17,480
Speaker 1: we've lost a bunch of guys or a bunch of coaches.

2504
01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:21,360
Speaker 1: Kind of use that and then you develop your team

2505
01:58:21,400 --> 01:58:23,560
Speaker 1: in the middle chunk of the season. Then you start

2506
01:58:23,880 --> 01:58:26,280
Speaker 1: sharpening the knives when you get into that, you know,

2507
01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:30,560
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen, seventeenth week, and then by then it's hard

2508
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:33,360
Speaker 1: to bet against us or them. You know, that's where

2509
01:58:33,360 --> 01:58:35,880
Speaker 1: they're at in their career because of you know, the

2510
01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:39,040
Speaker 1: quarterback they have and their program. Their program.

2511
01:58:39,120 --> 01:58:42,280
Speaker 3: They have a good program. It's been you know, ten

2512
01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:44,880
Speaker 3: plus years in the making, and they know.

2513
01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:46,480
Speaker 1: What they're doing. They know what they're doing.

2514
01:58:46,760 --> 01:58:51,160
Speaker 3: The stability of the organizations you know that that can

2515
01:58:51,200 --> 01:58:54,120
Speaker 3: get to that point is really a huge advantage for them.

2516
01:58:54,240 --> 01:58:57,840
Speaker 1: It is now what's more impressive this double comeback or

2517
01:58:58,120 --> 01:58:59,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl comeback.

2518
01:58:59,840 --> 01:59:05,320
Speaker 3: I think Baltimore's defense, in my opinion, was like I

2519
01:59:05,360 --> 01:59:08,839
Speaker 3: thought Matt Ryan was playing an exceptional level. The Falcons

2520
01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:11,040
Speaker 3: were a really good team. I don't think their defense

2521
01:59:11,080 --> 01:59:14,000
Speaker 3: if you put those two defenses on paper, you would

2522
01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:16,400
Speaker 3: say that that defense was better than the Baltimore one.

2523
01:59:16,440 --> 01:59:20,960
Speaker 1: It was not so doing it against the Ravens in.

2524
01:59:20,840 --> 01:59:29,680
Speaker 3: That group, with that group of players that they had.

2525
01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:28,360
Speaker 1: That was probably the tougher group.

2526
01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:31,520
Speaker 3: We had to have so many things go right for us,

2527
01:59:32,440 --> 01:59:37,120
Speaker 3: or so many things we had to do without having

2528
01:59:37,200 --> 01:59:38,360
Speaker 3: anything go wrong.

2529
01:59:38,440 --> 01:59:42,200
Speaker 1: In the Falcons game, we just couldn't. We were up

2530
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:42,720
Speaker 1: against it.

2531
01:59:42,600 --> 01:59:44,520
Speaker 3: It was like, if we make any mistakes here, we're

2532
01:59:44,560 --> 01:59:46,760
Speaker 3: dead done, you know what I mean. And so the

2533
01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:49,240
Speaker 3: fact that we were able to do that, you know,

2534
01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:53,280
Speaker 3: I think it was probably more unrealistic. You know, I

2535
01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:55,200
Speaker 3: don't know if it was a better one against a

2536
01:59:55,200 --> 01:59:57,280
Speaker 3: better defense, if you know what I'm saying.

2537
01:59:57,720 --> 02:00:01,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's still some great, great problems to talk about.

2538
02:00:02,040 --> 02:00:04,640
Speaker 1: Which which you come back was better? Those are great things.

2539
02:00:04,680 --> 02:00:07,280
Speaker 1: Which one? Did you think it was? Falcons? For sure?

2540
02:00:07,760 --> 02:00:08,360
Speaker 1: I mean it was it.

2541
02:00:08,520 --> 02:00:12,120
Speaker 2: It was more because you know, it was certainly more improbable,

2542
02:00:12,680 --> 02:00:16,400
Speaker 2: so improbable. I never felt like we were out of

2543
02:00:16,440 --> 02:00:17,960
Speaker 2: the Buffalo the Baltimore one.

2544
02:00:17,840 --> 02:00:20,840
Speaker 1: Really no, but we were up again. Definitely felt like

2545
02:00:20,880 --> 02:00:24,640
Speaker 1: we were out at one point after I dropped that

2546
02:00:24,640 --> 02:00:27,160
Speaker 1: third down come out halftime, Like, fuck me, I'm the

2547
02:00:27,240 --> 02:00:31,080
Speaker 1: raw rock guy getting everyone rowdy. I can't make a

2548
02:00:31,080 --> 02:00:33,400
Speaker 1: goddamn third down catch over the you know what I mean,

2549
02:00:33,440 --> 02:00:34,920
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a hell of a store. It's gonna

2550
02:00:34,920 --> 02:00:37,360
Speaker 1: be a hell of a story. I mean, that's your trademark.

2551
02:00:37,480 --> 02:00:40,000
Speaker 1: It was a hell of a Now you're saying there's

2552
02:00:40,040 --> 02:00:41,120
Speaker 1: a caveat to that.

2553
02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:45,160
Speaker 2: Nah, it's gonna be a hell of a story.

2554
02:00:43,960 --> 02:00:46,640
Speaker 1: And if I believe.

2555
02:00:46,320 --> 02:00:49,160
Speaker 6: That, you can't believe. Gotta believe.

2556
02:00:49,200 --> 02:00:51,280
Speaker 2: Maybe you can't say that.

2557
02:00:51,320 --> 02:00:53,920
Speaker 1: You gotta believe. But I'm doubting if we can do

2558
02:00:53,960 --> 02:00:56,680
Speaker 1: it or not. Hey, we all have See that's that's

2559
02:00:56,720 --> 02:00:59,240
Speaker 1: for everyone listening. Even when you believe, you have a

2560
02:00:59,280 --> 02:01:02,400
Speaker 1: little doubt. So when you're doubt, you have that little doubt,

2561
02:01:02,440 --> 02:01:06,840
Speaker 1: it's okay, you can still believe. Speak right there. You

2562
02:01:06,880 --> 02:01:10,920
Speaker 1: see that right frame. I mean it's it's already that's

2563
02:01:11,080 --> 02:01:13,920
Speaker 1: a T shirt. Oh my god, it's gonna be a caveat.

2564
02:01:14,200 --> 02:01:17,800
Speaker 1: I mean, who dropping caveat on this podcast? I like

2565
02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:23,160
Speaker 1: it such a caviare word. Let's grade the game. We'll

2566
02:01:23,160 --> 02:01:30,400
Speaker 1: be right back after this quick break. Name of the game,

2567
02:01:30,480 --> 02:01:33,920
Speaker 1: the double pass, The pass game, The double comeback. Which

2568
02:01:33,960 --> 02:01:35,720
Speaker 1: one do you want to call it double pass? The

2569
02:01:35,800 --> 02:01:39,600
Speaker 1: double pass game? Is this the greatest game of all time?

2570
02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:44,040
Speaker 1: Let's score it stakes zero to ten of this game

2571
02:01:44,080 --> 02:01:47,400
Speaker 1: decimal is okay, you have to grade it of the game. Yeah.

2572
02:01:47,440 --> 02:01:50,960
Speaker 1: We've done super Bowls, We've done World Cup events, We've

2573
02:01:50,960 --> 02:01:55,880
Speaker 1: done World Series events, done surfing the biggest waves of

2574
02:01:55,880 --> 02:01:56,280
Speaker 1: all time.

2575
02:01:56,320 --> 02:01:59,440
Speaker 2: I mean okay, So I'm gonna say it's a divisional

2576
02:01:59,440 --> 02:02:01,720
Speaker 2: game against nine nine solid.

2577
02:02:02,360 --> 02:02:04,520
Speaker 8: So we had done this game before with with Gronk.

2578
02:02:04,960 --> 02:02:09,400
Speaker 8: So Jewels sorry, Jewels scored a seven point one. I

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02:02:09,560 --> 02:02:11,720
Speaker 8: Jack did an eight point zero, I did an eight

2580
02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:15,960
Speaker 8: point two, and did a ten seven point one.

2581
02:02:17,520 --> 02:02:25,320
Speaker 1: You know, Jos, when you first Super Bowl, you forget them,

2582
02:02:25,680 --> 02:02:30,000
Speaker 1: you forget them. This is seven right here, star power, Josh,

2583
02:02:30,040 --> 02:02:37,240
Speaker 1: star power. That was okay, okay, so reads out, raise out.

2584
02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:40,000
Speaker 2: McPhee, don't forget about you know, you're the legend of

2585
02:02:40,640 --> 02:02:43,839
Speaker 2: you know, we're just coming up. Yeah, you're your legend

2586
02:02:43,880 --> 02:02:47,040
Speaker 2: hasn't really started to grow yet. Just you know, you're

2587
02:02:47,080 --> 02:02:49,960
Speaker 2: kind of you're hoping to get a podcast someday, hope.

2588
02:02:50,000 --> 02:02:53,840
Speaker 3: You know, Gronk's pretty much Gronk by now. Tommy's got

2589
02:02:53,840 --> 02:02:58,280
Speaker 3: a lot of star power. I'll go uh eight.

2590
02:02:58,720 --> 02:03:00,800
Speaker 8: Jewels did a seven point nine and jacket an eight

2591
02:03:00,840 --> 02:03:02,440
Speaker 8: point five. I did an eight point three.

2592
02:03:02,640 --> 02:03:03,600
Speaker 7: Dole did a six?

2593
02:03:03,800 --> 02:03:04,480
Speaker 6: Whoa Dole?

2594
02:03:05,760 --> 02:03:09,400
Speaker 1: Hard greater man? Not after a ten on the stakes? Yeah?

2595
02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:12,400
Speaker 1: That what are we doing? Game played? Zero to ten? Josh?

2596
02:03:12,480 --> 02:03:15,200
Speaker 1: What does this mean? How the game went? I mean,

2597
02:03:15,440 --> 02:03:18,720
Speaker 1: I mean excitement for the viewer? This is a ten.

2598
02:03:19,400 --> 02:03:22,040
Speaker 1: This is hard to top this one? Amen? What I say?

2599
02:03:22,120 --> 02:03:22,840
Speaker 1: Hard to top this one?

2600
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:24,920
Speaker 7: Jewels with an eight point one, Jack with a ten,

2601
02:03:25,120 --> 02:03:25,800
Speaker 7: Me with a nine.

2602
02:03:27,400 --> 02:03:30,840
Speaker 1: You are the name of the game. Zero to ten,

2603
02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:33,880
Speaker 1: one decimals, Okay, you mean the double pass, the double

2604
02:03:33,960 --> 02:03:37,040
Speaker 1: pass rating the name that you ranked, the name eight

2605
02:03:37,080 --> 02:03:37,680
Speaker 1: point five?

2606
02:03:38,240 --> 02:03:39,200
Speaker 6: Very solid.

2607
02:03:39,640 --> 02:03:42,720
Speaker 8: Jules had a seven point nine, jacket an eight point six.

2608
02:03:42,960 --> 02:03:45,040
Speaker 8: I had a nine point two, and Dola had an

2609
02:03:45,080 --> 02:03:47,360
Speaker 8: eight point zero. What is a total up to Let's

2610
02:03:47,360 --> 02:03:51,960
Speaker 8: see the news score is an eight point four four?

2611
02:03:52,000 --> 02:03:53,800
Speaker 1: Where does it go on the charts of games?

2612
02:03:53,960 --> 02:03:59,160
Speaker 8: That ties us with with Becky?

2613
02:03:59,320 --> 02:04:04,040
Speaker 1: Two belts? You big wrestling fan? My kids, we grew

2614
02:04:04,120 --> 02:04:07,480
Speaker 1: up that way, Yeah I do. There was a big

2615
02:04:07,520 --> 02:04:08,560
Speaker 1: There was a big.

2616
02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:11,560
Speaker 3: There's a big window where I was completely out of

2617
02:04:11,600 --> 02:04:15,040
Speaker 3: the loop, you know, like after college, just making it

2618
02:04:15,120 --> 02:04:17,920
Speaker 3: till I had and then like I have some friends

2619
02:04:17,920 --> 02:04:18,320
Speaker 3: that do it.

2620
02:04:18,440 --> 02:04:20,720
Speaker 2: I enjoy it. It's fun, fun to go to. It's

2621
02:04:20,760 --> 02:04:21,240
Speaker 2: a good show.

2622
02:04:21,320 --> 02:04:23,560
Speaker 1: It's fun. Overall.

2623
02:04:24,120 --> 02:04:26,640
Speaker 2: Tied for thirteenth overall. Hold on, go back to that.

2624
02:04:27,080 --> 02:04:30,160
Speaker 1: So the number one was super Blood wolf Moon.

2625
02:04:31,160 --> 02:04:33,120
Speaker 6: That was a twenty eighteen AFC Championship game.

2626
02:04:33,720 --> 02:04:37,600
Speaker 1: Remember the moon thing that happened? Yeah? I do. Uh,

2627
02:04:37,800 --> 02:04:39,600
Speaker 1: where's the Seahawks?

2628
02:04:40,000 --> 02:04:40,960
Speaker 7: That's number three?

2629
02:04:41,160 --> 02:04:41,440
Speaker 1: Three?

2630
02:04:41,560 --> 02:04:45,200
Speaker 2: I was gonna say that definitely statue Lefty game. Remember

2631
02:04:45,280 --> 02:04:47,600
Speaker 2: that I had those three as my top three.

2632
02:04:47,800 --> 02:04:51,560
Speaker 3: Yes, someone in COVID asked me that, and I said,

2633
02:04:51,560 --> 02:04:52,600
Speaker 3: those were my top.

2634
02:04:52,360 --> 02:04:53,600
Speaker 1: Three, but not in that order.

2635
02:04:53,800 --> 02:04:54,520
Speaker 7: What's your order?

2636
02:04:55,480 --> 02:04:56,400
Speaker 1: Three? One? Two?

2637
02:04:56,840 --> 02:05:01,000
Speaker 8: So Butler game twenty eight to three or game Superbud

2638
02:05:01,040 --> 02:05:02,320
Speaker 8: Wolfman game than twenty three?

2639
02:05:02,440 --> 02:05:04,880
Speaker 1: That was my top. That was my top and then

2640
02:05:04,880 --> 02:05:05,960
Speaker 1: I think this game was four.

2641
02:05:06,840 --> 02:05:09,040
Speaker 6: Hey, yeah, do you remember that statue of Liberty game?

2642
02:05:09,240 --> 02:05:09,840
Speaker 1: What is he state?

2643
02:05:09,840 --> 02:05:10,320
Speaker 6: Oklahoma?

2644
02:05:10,440 --> 02:05:10,640
Speaker 1: I do?

2645
02:05:10,840 --> 02:05:12,200
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, oh that's my favorite.

2646
02:05:12,360 --> 02:05:14,760
Speaker 6: Speaking of great, great great play calls.

2647
02:05:15,040 --> 02:05:15,640
Speaker 1: That was awesome.

2648
02:05:15,640 --> 02:05:18,480
Speaker 7: How many gadges can you have, Josh, we visiting thing?

2649
02:05:18,800 --> 02:05:22,280
Speaker 1: No, this is awesome. You want to plug anything. You're

2650
02:05:22,280 --> 02:05:25,840
Speaker 1: gonna plug plug anything, you know. This is just this

2651
02:05:25,960 --> 02:05:28,360
Speaker 1: is awesome. Well, we appreciate you coming on man, it's

2652
02:05:28,400 --> 02:05:28,880
Speaker 1: been awesome.

2653
02:05:28,920 --> 02:05:29,520
Speaker 6: It was so fun.

2654
02:05:29,680 --> 02:05:33,280
Speaker 1: This was funny memory Lane. Yep, and thank you again, Bro,

2655
02:05:33,480 --> 02:05:36,640
Speaker 1: appreciate you be guy man. That was That was a

2656
02:05:36,640 --> 02:05:38,800
Speaker 1: fun episode. Brought me down memory Lane. Would you guys

2657
02:05:38,800 --> 02:05:41,640
Speaker 1: think about old Josh love Josh our first we were

2658
02:05:41,640 --> 02:05:44,240
Speaker 1: just talking our first head coach, first head coach. We

2659
02:05:44,240 --> 02:05:47,960
Speaker 1: didn't really talk about it though, No, because it's a

2660
02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:50,800
Speaker 1: little raw, it's still a little fresh. I think a

2661
02:05:50,800 --> 02:05:51,480
Speaker 1: fresh wound.

2662
02:05:52,240 --> 02:05:53,800
Speaker 7: I'll have a bit of a hand up moment on

2663
02:05:53,840 --> 02:05:54,520
Speaker 7: this episode.

2664
02:05:54,640 --> 02:05:58,840
Speaker 8: I'm pretty anti redoing games that we've already done, because

2665
02:05:58,840 --> 02:06:01,600
Speaker 8: you're so there's literally thousands of thousands of games out

2666
02:06:01,600 --> 02:06:04,240
Speaker 8: there that we haven't done yet. So when he came

2667
02:06:04,280 --> 02:06:07,400
Speaker 8: back organically with doing this game, I was skeptical. I

2668
02:06:07,440 --> 02:06:10,480
Speaker 8: was like, Okay, well we've already done it with Dola whatever, whatever, whatever.

2669
02:06:10,520 --> 02:06:13,120
Speaker 8: But I think his perspective on it was awesome. It

2670
02:06:13,160 --> 02:06:16,080
Speaker 8: was cool getting the coaches perspective on it. So hand up,

2671
02:06:16,160 --> 02:06:16,680
Speaker 8: I was wrong.

2672
02:06:18,040 --> 02:06:20,360
Speaker 6: Josh was so cool man and so gracious. Was this

2673
02:06:20,400 --> 02:06:24,040
Speaker 6: guy so smart? Remember it and he did the Peyton manning.

2674
02:06:24,360 --> 02:06:27,120
Speaker 6: He went back to the notes, he watched the tape,

2675
02:06:27,520 --> 02:06:30,640
Speaker 6: he came ready has still had his game plans. Oh

2676
02:06:30,640 --> 02:06:31,240
Speaker 6: that was awesome.

2677
02:06:31,280 --> 02:06:33,320
Speaker 8: I wish oh when we started getting into the craft

2678
02:06:33,360 --> 02:06:35,280
Speaker 8: of play calling and he was like, oh, I wanted

2679
02:06:35,280 --> 02:06:36,480
Speaker 8: to do it out the first down and I want

2680
02:06:36,520 --> 02:06:38,040
Speaker 8: to do it here and after hear oh, man, we

2681
02:06:38,080 --> 02:06:39,360
Speaker 8: could have had an hour conversation.

2682
02:06:39,360 --> 02:06:41,320
Speaker 7: I'm just that because that was just I wanted to

2683
02:06:41,400 --> 02:06:42,520
Speaker 7: know more and more and more about that.

2684
02:06:42,600 --> 02:06:44,560
Speaker 1: But I don't even to help me with my college

2685
02:06:44,560 --> 02:06:47,760
Speaker 1: football twenty five play on. I know, I wonder what

2686
02:06:47,760 --> 02:06:48,720
Speaker 1: playbook he uses.

2687
02:06:49,240 --> 02:06:51,480
Speaker 6: I wonder because I used to use.

2688
02:06:51,360 --> 02:06:53,880
Speaker 1: And like when I go and played Madden, I would

2689
02:06:53,960 --> 02:06:55,720
Speaker 1: use like our playbook even if he was using a

2690
02:06:55,720 --> 02:06:58,480
Speaker 1: different team, because I knew our offense. And sometimes there's

2691
02:06:58,480 --> 02:06:59,800
Speaker 1: a couple of years I was like, oh, this kind

2692
02:06:59,840 --> 02:07:01,360
Speaker 1: of yeah, it's kind of kind of what we do.

2693
02:07:02,480 --> 02:07:05,880
Speaker 1: And then there's someone like, what the fuck I played recently?

2694
02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:07,560
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't know the offense.

2695
02:07:08,120 --> 02:07:10,920
Speaker 6: I gotta say, nothing good has ever come from me

2696
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:13,280
Speaker 6: being in the pistol formation in college football twenty five.

2697
02:07:13,640 --> 02:07:16,000
Speaker 1: I hate the pistol not a pistol. Guy supposed to

2698
02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:16,800
Speaker 1: be better for the run.

2699
02:07:17,080 --> 02:07:18,120
Speaker 6: I know, but I just can't.

2700
02:07:18,160 --> 02:07:20,640
Speaker 1: Every time I can makes it more even. I could

2701
02:07:20,680 --> 02:07:23,000
Speaker 1: see that makes it more even for the offensive line,

2702
02:07:23,080 --> 02:07:26,000
Speaker 1: for like shades, because the guy behind him all the

2703
02:07:26,080 --> 02:07:28,400
Speaker 1: offset on one side, you can eliminate certain things.

2704
02:07:28,720 --> 02:07:29,960
Speaker 6: That's a good way to look at I didn't even

2705
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:30,320
Speaker 6: know anything.

2706
02:07:30,400 --> 02:07:32,360
Speaker 1: Well, that's why people try the pistol. That's why people

2707
02:07:32,360 --> 02:07:34,839
Speaker 1: like the pistol, because they you know, it's a deception

2708
02:07:34,920 --> 02:07:37,680
Speaker 1: of a side that is true. So then you could

2709
02:07:37,720 --> 02:07:40,000
Speaker 1: cheat over those gaps over not cheat, but you can

2710
02:07:40,320 --> 02:07:42,240
Speaker 1: you can gap them differently and just have this guy

2711
02:07:42,280 --> 02:07:43,600
Speaker 1: catch you edge on for the pitch.

2712
02:07:43,960 --> 02:07:47,560
Speaker 7: Isn't it just the old eye formation that that's why shot?

2713
02:07:47,840 --> 02:07:51,000
Speaker 1: But that's what No, the pistols shotgun with the guy

2714
02:07:51,080 --> 02:07:54,800
Speaker 1: behind you. But it is like eye formation for like

2715
02:07:54,840 --> 02:07:58,160
Speaker 1: where you're getting, you get the even box for both sides.

2716
02:07:58,800 --> 02:08:01,240
Speaker 6: God forbid a college quarter be under centered these days.

2717
02:08:01,480 --> 02:08:06,280
Speaker 6: God forbid what they're never under center in college dangered species,

2718
02:08:06,920 --> 02:08:08,480
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying, Army.

2719
02:08:08,800 --> 02:08:10,160
Speaker 1: And that's that's dude.

2720
02:08:10,160 --> 02:08:12,720
Speaker 7: This is a two hour episode already's.

2721
02:08:12,760 --> 02:08:17,520
Speaker 2: In honor of Josh and his patented, patent patented.

2722
02:08:18,320 --> 02:08:20,160
Speaker 1: He's known for wearing advisors for.

2723
02:08:20,200 --> 02:08:22,840
Speaker 2: Known for wearing visors. We're gonna go and we're gonna

2724
02:08:22,840 --> 02:08:29,400
Speaker 2: build the ideal football coach look from head to tippity toe.

2725
02:08:29,840 --> 02:08:32,160
Speaker 6: Just a little context of this new post guest segment.

2726
02:08:32,440 --> 02:08:37,480
Speaker 6: We're basically gonna assemble the We're gonna We're gonna use

2727
02:08:37,520 --> 02:08:42,520
Speaker 6: inspiration from some of the most notable coaching attire pieces,

2728
02:08:42,760 --> 02:08:46,600
Speaker 6: pieces of their wardrobe to kind of compile one super fit.

2729
02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:51,600
Speaker 6: So think Pete Carroll's Monarchs. Think Kyle Shanahan with the

2730
02:08:51,600 --> 02:08:54,160
Speaker 6: the flat brim custom Giants hat.

2731
02:08:54,040 --> 02:08:57,120
Speaker 1: That no one else wears, but he has Niners with

2732
02:08:57,200 --> 02:08:59,640
Speaker 1: a small small letters with the small letters. Sorry, I'm

2733
02:08:59,680 --> 02:09:02,960
Speaker 1: thinking so just go Bill Belichick with the cutoff hoodie.

2734
02:09:03,400 --> 02:09:09,000
Speaker 1: Maybe Kanye low key made a collection after this. Oh

2735
02:09:09,120 --> 02:09:12,320
Speaker 1: damn back, I'm telling you no, he cut like he

2736
02:09:12,400 --> 02:09:14,600
Speaker 1: cut it. A lot of that ship looked like Bill's ship.

2737
02:09:14,920 --> 02:09:17,000
Speaker 1: I've been in there after Kanye dropped. It was like

2738
02:09:17,040 --> 02:09:19,160
Speaker 1: sixteen or something. It's tight.

2739
02:09:19,320 --> 02:09:21,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean Billy.

2740
02:09:21,480 --> 02:09:24,360
Speaker 1: Kanye and Bill kind of addressed like on the on

2741
02:09:24,360 --> 02:09:24,839
Speaker 1: the sideline.

2742
02:09:24,840 --> 02:09:28,120
Speaker 8: If you I heard recently that maybe some of Kanye's

2743
02:09:28,160 --> 02:09:30,320
Speaker 8: fashion sense was coming from Adam Sandler.

2744
02:09:31,240 --> 02:09:32,440
Speaker 7: I think I saw a clip of that.

2745
02:09:33,360 --> 02:09:37,640
Speaker 1: I just love seeing Adam Sandler on social media, playing

2746
02:09:37,720 --> 02:09:41,919
Speaker 1: randomly in parks in the in the Adam Sandler outfits,

2747
02:09:42,240 --> 02:09:45,880
Speaker 1: specials out probably when this comes out. Yeah, yeah, new

2748
02:09:45,880 --> 02:09:47,840
Speaker 1: special everyone go go check it out. But let's get

2749
02:09:47,880 --> 02:09:49,680
Speaker 1: back to our bill coach. All right, let's build a.

2750
02:09:49,600 --> 02:09:50,160
Speaker 7: Coach, baby.

2751
02:09:50,160 --> 02:09:52,360
Speaker 6: I like the that that naming of it perfect.

2752
02:09:52,440 --> 02:09:54,800
Speaker 1: Well's I mean, we all know creative player in Madden.

2753
02:09:55,080 --> 02:09:57,080
Speaker 1: This is creative coach created looks.

2754
02:09:57,840 --> 02:10:01,120
Speaker 6: So we're starting at the dome, baby, head where what

2755
02:10:01,160 --> 02:10:02,600
Speaker 6: are we rocking on the head? Are we going?

2756
02:10:03,000 --> 02:10:03,680
Speaker 1: We going hat?

2757
02:10:03,720 --> 02:10:07,200
Speaker 6: We go on Advisor, We're going nothing, We're going Beanie headset.

2758
02:10:07,240 --> 02:10:09,600
Speaker 6: I mean you gotta have the headset. This Dora Fedora

2759
02:10:10,360 --> 02:10:14,480
Speaker 6: full on old school yeah.

2760
02:10:13,160 --> 02:10:18,720
Speaker 1: Eddie Munster, Widow's peak, just beautiful hair like uh situation.

2761
02:10:18,440 --> 02:10:19,520
Speaker 6: Yeah full Ben, I can do?

2762
02:10:20,320 --> 02:10:25,000
Speaker 1: Or what ebra flues right now, bro, coach? Ebra flues?

2763
02:10:25,040 --> 02:10:28,160
Speaker 1: Get got a city cut, moved to Chicago, White made

2764
02:10:28,240 --> 02:10:29,960
Speaker 1: him cut his hair. You got a city cut and

2765
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:31,040
Speaker 1: a little beard.

2766
02:10:30,760 --> 02:10:32,600
Speaker 7: Action Chicago looks good?

2767
02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:36,640
Speaker 1: Oh my, yes, I mean I got a whole paper.

2768
02:10:36,680 --> 02:10:39,040
Speaker 1: They look good. Yeah, but everyone looks good on paper.

2769
02:10:39,360 --> 02:10:40,680
Speaker 1: That's why you play the games.

2770
02:10:41,240 --> 02:10:43,280
Speaker 6: Are we going full ebra flues and getting a city

2771
02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:44,680
Speaker 6: cutting with the you.

2772
02:10:44,640 --> 02:10:46,040
Speaker 7: Gotta go, you gotta go A hat?

2773
02:10:46,640 --> 02:10:49,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like, I like, I like freaking Shanahan's hats

2774
02:10:50,320 --> 02:10:54,080
Speaker 1: because it's our new age cool coach, A new age

2775
02:10:54,320 --> 02:10:57,560
Speaker 1: cool coach. Dora is like thirty two. That's cool for

2776
02:10:57,640 --> 02:10:59,160
Speaker 1: like on the going to the plane.

2777
02:10:59,640 --> 02:11:02,440
Speaker 6: On the or so baby, the meat the meat of

2778
02:11:02,480 --> 02:11:02,800
Speaker 6: your fit.

2779
02:11:02,920 --> 02:11:08,080
Speaker 5: Here we go, in, we go in old school wind breaker,

2780
02:11:08,120 --> 02:11:12,400
Speaker 5: we going verbel cut off windbreaker with the long sleeve

2781
02:11:12,440 --> 02:11:13,880
Speaker 5: t underneath the show off the guns.

2782
02:11:14,160 --> 02:11:15,400
Speaker 6: I like the bill dog.

2783
02:11:15,640 --> 02:11:17,720
Speaker 1: I like the bill. I like the bill cut hood,

2784
02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:18,880
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it.

2785
02:11:18,840 --> 02:11:20,560
Speaker 7: About a Jim Tressel sweater.

2786
02:11:21,080 --> 02:11:23,200
Speaker 1: Hate it, hate it, hate it, hate it.

2787
02:11:23,600 --> 02:11:27,600
Speaker 6: It's too clean cut, absolutely Nottenheimer starter jacket.

2788
02:11:27,720 --> 02:11:31,240
Speaker 1: I like that. I like the starter coach by everyone,

2789
02:11:31,440 --> 02:11:33,720
Speaker 1: Yes or cool. But that's for a cold game. We're

2790
02:11:33,760 --> 02:11:35,600
Speaker 1: talking about a spring game. Okay, very much game.

2791
02:11:36,600 --> 02:11:39,120
Speaker 7: What about a nice, like fashionable, like up to date

2792
02:11:39,800 --> 02:11:42,240
Speaker 7: wind breaker. I'll up Pete Carroll. It's almost like a

2793
02:11:42,240 --> 02:11:43,200
Speaker 7: golfing situation.

2794
02:11:43,960 --> 02:11:48,200
Speaker 1: Ah like accus like a quarter zip like it's a

2795
02:11:48,240 --> 02:11:52,360
Speaker 1: little too ubiquitous. I'm I like, look at the Belichick

2796
02:11:53,040 --> 02:11:55,680
Speaker 1: like as much as we can all make fun of it,

2797
02:11:55,840 --> 02:11:59,360
Speaker 1: like that's that's like timeless. That's like from the because

2798
02:11:59,360 --> 02:12:02,880
Speaker 1: he used to do that. Ship at the Giants oversize

2799
02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:09,680
Speaker 1: because those old sweat suits, the old baggy ones, when

2800
02:12:09,720 --> 02:12:11,400
Speaker 1: you used to cut them off, like that was like

2801
02:12:11,440 --> 02:12:15,360
Speaker 1: your only that was your way of differentiating yourself because

2802
02:12:15,360 --> 02:12:18,320
Speaker 1: we all wore the same one. Amen, So like that

2803
02:12:18,480 --> 02:12:20,040
Speaker 1: was like your he kind of did.

2804
02:12:19,880 --> 02:12:23,280
Speaker 6: That early drip. Plus plus your your hands are free,

2805
02:12:23,320 --> 02:12:24,640
Speaker 6: you're not messing with your lease.

2806
02:12:24,760 --> 02:12:27,200
Speaker 1: And then pocket and you also go to hood just

2807
02:12:27,240 --> 02:12:30,160
Speaker 1: in case you want to go hood over hat because look,

2808
02:12:30,360 --> 02:12:34,839
Speaker 1: even Shanahan does hood. See Shanahan does hoodie with jacket

2809
02:12:34,880 --> 02:12:37,600
Speaker 1: over open open jacket, which is cool.

2810
02:12:37,720 --> 02:12:39,720
Speaker 6: I like having a hood little versatility there.

2811
02:12:39,920 --> 02:12:41,600
Speaker 1: Bill looks like you should be in the weight room.

2812
02:12:41,600 --> 02:12:43,320
Speaker 1: Bro Okay, we're going. Well, my coach looked like you

2813
02:12:43,320 --> 02:12:45,480
Speaker 1: should be in the weight room. We're going Bill, We're

2814
02:12:45,480 --> 02:12:46,000
Speaker 1: going Bill.

2815
02:12:45,920 --> 02:12:46,400
Speaker 6: I'm going Bill.

2816
02:12:46,600 --> 02:12:48,840
Speaker 8: We also missed the bum Phillips cowboy hat in the

2817
02:12:48,840 --> 02:12:51,800
Speaker 8: Headworth section. We should pick we were right with the

2818
02:12:51,840 --> 02:12:55,520
Speaker 8: Phillips or the Shanahan flat Bill, but cowboy.

2819
02:12:55,160 --> 02:12:56,040
Speaker 7: Hat is a vibe.

2820
02:12:56,200 --> 02:12:59,280
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta be coaching in the state of Texas. Okay, pants,

2821
02:12:59,320 --> 02:13:04,080
Speaker 1: this is only one answer, only Texas pants. See, I

2822
02:13:04,120 --> 02:13:06,040
Speaker 1: would say I don't like khakis.

2823
02:13:06,200 --> 02:13:08,440
Speaker 6: I would say, if they're going to be khakis, I

2824
02:13:08,520 --> 02:13:11,680
Speaker 6: want some big old pleats there. I need those boys pleated.

2825
02:13:11,840 --> 02:13:15,800
Speaker 6: I'm talking Charlie Weis's Pete Carroll circa Notre Dame usc

2826
02:13:16,400 --> 02:13:20,280
Speaker 6: Bush push game pleats. But with the bill Hoodie, I

2827
02:13:20,280 --> 02:13:22,560
Speaker 6: don't like it. No, I don't like it. I want

2828
02:13:22,640 --> 02:13:24,040
Speaker 6: some some wind pants.

2829
02:13:23,880 --> 02:13:27,280
Speaker 8: Or we do we have to be like a nice

2830
02:13:27,320 --> 02:13:31,680
Speaker 8: look top the bottom, or we picked the best thing forehead.

2831
02:13:31,240 --> 02:13:34,320
Speaker 1: For we're building a look we're building. Yeah, so it

2832
02:13:34,360 --> 02:13:35,200
Speaker 1: all has to go together.

2833
02:13:35,240 --> 02:13:37,320
Speaker 6: I think it needs to. It needs to.

2834
02:13:37,440 --> 02:13:44,560
Speaker 1: Going with like a baggie windbreaker rain gear machine. Yeah,

2835
02:13:44,720 --> 02:13:49,480
Speaker 1: all day, all day they have that. I want some bottom,

2836
02:13:49,920 --> 02:13:51,720
Speaker 1: so a bust of sag. I got, I got, I

2837
02:13:51,720 --> 02:13:54,240
Speaker 1: got area where I can keep my my flag. I

2838
02:13:54,240 --> 02:13:56,640
Speaker 1: don't have a small ass little because if I'm gonna

2839
02:13:56,680 --> 02:13:59,240
Speaker 1: keep it myself, I don't. I don't need a tapered

2840
02:13:59,240 --> 02:14:01,880
Speaker 1: assing where I can't get my hand under my ship

2841
02:14:01,920 --> 02:14:03,920
Speaker 1: because my calf is so big. I want some baggy

2842
02:14:04,040 --> 02:14:06,600
Speaker 1: you gotta hide your flag, I got packed pockets.

2843
02:14:06,840 --> 02:14:09,400
Speaker 7: What about this take just I'd love to hear your opinion.

2844
02:14:09,600 --> 02:14:10,880
Speaker 8: Here's a team that we was our a bit of

2845
02:14:10,920 --> 02:14:14,960
Speaker 8: a rival in high school ConA, but all their coaches

2846
02:14:14,960 --> 02:14:20,440
Speaker 8: would have matching short cargo shorts with calf high black

2847
02:14:20,520 --> 02:14:24,200
Speaker 8: socks the whole season, even if it was snowing. The

2848
02:14:24,200 --> 02:14:27,840
Speaker 8: whole coaching staff, I'm not sure black socks.

2849
02:14:27,960 --> 02:14:30,720
Speaker 6: They deserve to be fired as an entire staff, the

2850
02:14:30,760 --> 02:14:34,480
Speaker 6: whole staff, the whole it's a bro staff. What that

2851
02:14:34,600 --> 02:14:35,320
Speaker 6: is insane?

2852
02:14:35,840 --> 02:14:37,240
Speaker 7: The whole, the whole coaching staff.

2853
02:14:37,920 --> 02:14:40,040
Speaker 1: Something I want to add to my to my hoodie,

2854
02:14:40,560 --> 02:14:42,960
Speaker 1: the baggy hoodie. I want to add. I want to

2855
02:14:42,960 --> 02:14:46,720
Speaker 1: put my belt on over my hoodie so it looks

2856
02:14:46,760 --> 02:14:48,800
Speaker 1: like I got a tool belt. But it's my, it's my,

2857
02:14:49,200 --> 02:14:51,440
Speaker 1: it's my pack. Trying to talk my radio.

2858
02:14:52,160 --> 02:14:54,840
Speaker 7: We didn't talk about color gray. I mean, there's red,

2859
02:14:54,840 --> 02:14:55,360
Speaker 7: there's blue.

2860
02:14:56,360 --> 02:15:00,000
Speaker 6: The whole hoodie. I'm not opposed to mixing it up,

2861
02:15:00,080 --> 02:15:03,640
Speaker 6: but we will say as mendment that keep track of

2862
02:15:03,640 --> 02:15:07,480
Speaker 6: Bill's fits from his coaching staff. Gray or blue is

2863
02:15:07,520 --> 02:15:09,240
Speaker 6: the best red bad thing I like.

2864
02:15:09,360 --> 02:15:15,160
Speaker 1: I personally like the the like three year old faded blue. Yes,

2865
02:15:15,920 --> 02:15:20,360
Speaker 1: like dog shit blue that has been maybe dried six

2866
02:15:20,440 --> 02:15:24,200
Speaker 1: hundred times. That something and where you get like that.

2867
02:15:24,280 --> 02:15:26,520
Speaker 1: You know sometimes you pull out of your pocket, You'll

2868
02:15:26,560 --> 02:15:32,240
Speaker 1: pull out the lint thing or the refreshing sheet. You

2869
02:15:32,280 --> 02:15:34,000
Speaker 1: know you put in your damn thing? Oh should I

2870
02:15:34,160 --> 02:15:35,680
Speaker 1: that's that means it's gonna be a good day.

2871
02:15:35,680 --> 02:15:37,560
Speaker 6: You find an extra twenty in the pocket. You're good, bro,

2872
02:15:37,640 --> 02:15:38,080
Speaker 6: You're good.

2873
02:15:38,520 --> 02:15:40,440
Speaker 1: I want I want a thousand. That thing needs to

2874
02:15:40,440 --> 02:15:42,320
Speaker 1: be dried a thousand times, and it's got to be

2875
02:15:42,320 --> 02:15:44,400
Speaker 1: two sizes too big. Blue.

2876
02:15:44,840 --> 02:15:47,560
Speaker 8: Would you ever cut a hole in your hoodie pocket

2877
02:15:47,880 --> 02:15:49,480
Speaker 8: for headphones like in high school?

2878
02:15:50,160 --> 02:15:53,160
Speaker 7: No, I in the pocket a whole headphones.

2879
02:15:53,520 --> 02:15:56,080
Speaker 1: I like to listen to my brain. Think when I

2880
02:15:56,160 --> 02:15:56,960
Speaker 1: was lifting.

2881
02:15:57,280 --> 02:16:00,280
Speaker 7: Facts, you guys never listened to headphones. I never, even

2882
02:16:00,320 --> 02:16:01,440
Speaker 7: though I liked to.

2883
02:16:01,560 --> 02:16:04,160
Speaker 1: I didn't run with headphones on when I was younger.

2884
02:16:04,200 --> 02:16:06,680
Speaker 1: And then in the weight room you got fucking weight room.

2885
02:16:06,640 --> 02:16:11,440
Speaker 6: Radio tunes blasting I'm self motivated and any and when

2886
02:16:11,440 --> 02:16:13,320
Speaker 6: I used to do my drills motivated.

2887
02:16:13,560 --> 02:16:17,320
Speaker 7: I've seen you watch highlight reels of yourself working out. Yeah,

2888
02:16:17,400 --> 02:16:19,640
Speaker 7: I guess that.

2889
02:16:18,680 --> 02:16:21,160
Speaker 1: That is self motivated, self, self motivate.

2890
02:16:21,200 --> 02:16:24,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, alright, full inception, Bro, full inception.

2891
02:16:25,080 --> 02:16:27,760
Speaker 1: He incepted me. I'm gonna do it now tonight. I

2892
02:16:27,800 --> 02:16:28,919
Speaker 1: need to motivate myself.

2893
02:16:31,400 --> 02:16:32,680
Speaker 7: Some clips of the podcast.

2894
02:16:33,120 --> 02:16:35,560
Speaker 6: Oh my goodness, all right, we get we're building. This

2895
02:16:35,600 --> 02:16:38,240
Speaker 6: fit is coming together very nicely. I hate it, Bro,

2896
02:16:38,440 --> 02:16:43,039
Speaker 6: I'm going monarchs, man. I kind of think Carol Carol

2897
02:16:45,120 --> 02:16:47,560
Speaker 6: with the with the vaults there fire.

2898
02:16:47,400 --> 02:16:51,120
Speaker 2: You could go Ernie taped up nikes, taped up nikes

2899
02:16:51,320 --> 02:16:53,440
Speaker 2: because he likes the rebucks where he's a man.

2900
02:16:54,280 --> 02:16:56,400
Speaker 1: We're going with the Ernie specials. Let's go with the

2901
02:16:56,440 --> 02:17:01,800
Speaker 1: Ernie Nikes because we like box more. Yeah, there you go,

2902
02:17:02,520 --> 02:17:05,119
Speaker 1: taped up rebox Rebok men on this podcast. Baby.

2903
02:17:05,240 --> 02:17:08,440
Speaker 6: And then just to throw a little flair in here,

2904
02:17:08,959 --> 02:17:11,280
Speaker 6: you know, a little bit of personality to it. We've

2905
02:17:11,320 --> 02:17:13,600
Speaker 6: already done that with our hoodie, shown that with uh,

2906
02:17:14,080 --> 02:17:15,840
Speaker 6: you know, some other elements of our fit. But any

2907
02:17:15,879 --> 02:17:19,920
Speaker 6: accessories we talk in pencil behind the ear Allah, Matty p.

2908
02:17:20,440 --> 02:17:23,400
Speaker 6: We chewing on anything. We got gum going beat Carrol Carroll,

2909
02:17:23,440 --> 02:17:25,560
Speaker 6: Gum do we have I got a full tin?

2910
02:17:26,280 --> 02:17:28,280
Speaker 1: I got I gotta I got a fanny pack with

2911
02:17:28,440 --> 02:17:31,400
Speaker 1: ten tens in the back of it, and that's where

2912
02:17:31,440 --> 02:17:34,160
Speaker 1: I might keep my challenge flag. And I'm just gonna

2913
02:17:34,200 --> 02:17:36,200
Speaker 1: have a I'm gonna have like you know, you have

2914
02:17:36,280 --> 02:17:38,400
Speaker 1: a guy that keeps you, the holy back guy, the

2915
02:17:38,400 --> 02:17:40,600
Speaker 1: holy back guy. Yep, he's I'm gonna have a homey

2916
02:17:40,680 --> 02:17:42,120
Speaker 1: back guy. And then I'm gonna have a dip guy.

2917
02:17:42,800 --> 02:17:44,440
Speaker 8: Can I Can I pitch for him to the team

2918
02:17:44,959 --> 02:17:46,840
Speaker 8: about a Mike McDaniel vape?

2919
02:17:47,040 --> 02:17:49,800
Speaker 7: What do you mean gripping vapes on the sideline?

2920
02:17:51,160 --> 02:17:51,920
Speaker 6: Get that out of here.

2921
02:17:51,920 --> 02:17:54,280
Speaker 1: No place for that in the NFL, Baby, No place, bro,

2922
02:17:54,879 --> 02:17:59,000
Speaker 1: no place for that, none between lines three other accessories.

2923
02:18:00,280 --> 02:18:01,000
Speaker 7: A big play sheet?

2924
02:18:01,400 --> 02:18:03,440
Speaker 6: Yeah you want to? You want to waffle house menu

2925
02:18:03,520 --> 02:18:06,280
Speaker 6: play sheet? Or are we talking Bill Belichick folded up

2926
02:18:06,320 --> 02:18:07,480
Speaker 6: you know a little piece of paper?

2927
02:18:08,080 --> 02:18:09,760
Speaker 1: Or do we just fucking note time?

2928
02:18:09,959 --> 02:18:14,640
Speaker 6: Yeah? Straight towar Agami status.

2929
02:18:14,160 --> 02:18:18,280
Speaker 1: Coach is dipping on the sideline. Oh yeah, there's signs

2930
02:18:18,320 --> 02:18:21,640
Speaker 1: it's illegal to do that. I got so by the way.

2931
02:18:21,720 --> 02:18:24,080
Speaker 1: I go to a Dodgers game and you gotta go

2932
02:18:24,120 --> 02:18:28,520
Speaker 1: through metal detectors. Cool, awesome, love it, like safeties over everything,

2933
02:18:28,680 --> 02:18:34,600
Speaker 1: pull out my tin, my wallet and uh walk through.

2934
02:18:34,720 --> 02:18:37,920
Speaker 1: They're like you can't have the tin. Oh that was right.

2935
02:18:37,959 --> 02:18:39,680
Speaker 1: That was the other week. Yeah, yeah, I was there

2936
02:18:39,720 --> 02:18:41,760
Speaker 1: with you can't have a tin at the I'm like,

2937
02:18:42,200 --> 02:18:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm at a baseball game. What do you mean I

2938
02:18:43,959 --> 02:18:47,800
Speaker 1: can't have a tin? They're like, it's banned in the stadium,

2939
02:18:47,800 --> 02:18:49,680
Speaker 1: you can't have any tobacco products. I go, we're at

2940
02:18:49,680 --> 02:18:55,959
Speaker 1: a We're at a baseball game. I mean, it's isn't this America? Like? No,

2941
02:18:56,640 --> 02:18:58,040
Speaker 1: I go, are you what?

2942
02:18:58,160 --> 02:18:58,280
Speaker 5: So?

2943
02:18:58,760 --> 02:19:01,240
Speaker 1: They made me throw my hip away. So as he

2944
02:19:01,320 --> 02:19:03,160
Speaker 1: was going to throw it, I took one dip, I

2945
02:19:03,200 --> 02:19:07,640
Speaker 1: put it in, and I walked through, seeing guy, I

2946
02:19:07,680 --> 02:19:09,080
Speaker 1: thought this used to be America's past.

2947
02:19:09,920 --> 02:19:11,600
Speaker 7: Just walk up to the dugout and be like, yo,

2948
02:19:11,640 --> 02:19:12,640
Speaker 7: anyone got intense.

2949
02:19:12,959 --> 02:19:14,199
Speaker 6: I think it's illegal in there too.

2950
02:19:14,720 --> 02:19:15,600
Speaker 1: I think it's illegal.

2951
02:19:15,800 --> 02:19:17,600
Speaker 8: You're telling me these guys are playing one hundred and

2952
02:19:17,600 --> 02:19:19,800
Speaker 8: sixty two games and it's not a single guy with

2953
02:19:19,879 --> 02:19:20,680
Speaker 8: a fat lip in.

2954
02:19:20,840 --> 02:19:21,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, man.

2955
02:19:21,720 --> 02:19:24,640
Speaker 6: I think it's it's big sunflower seed and big in

2956
02:19:24,720 --> 02:19:27,080
Speaker 6: big bubble gum industry is has pushed him out.

2957
02:19:27,120 --> 02:19:30,080
Speaker 7: I think, no, So what's our accessory?

2958
02:19:30,240 --> 02:19:35,160
Speaker 6: It's all I get a dip hey and put a

2959
02:19:35,200 --> 02:19:39,840
Speaker 6: parlay in for me. But bro, that game was great.

2960
02:19:40,040 --> 02:19:41,600
Speaker 6: That was a great games.

2961
02:19:42,080 --> 02:19:48,039
Speaker 1: Accessories here challenge flag and so we'll have we'll have

2962
02:19:48,680 --> 02:19:52,600
Speaker 1: intercom belt around the hoodie. Ye can see around the builder.

2963
02:19:52,640 --> 02:19:56,600
Speaker 1: I can see my my side pack, tool belt, tool belt.

2964
02:19:57,040 --> 02:19:58,959
Speaker 1: They have a couple of things on there. We got

2965
02:19:58,959 --> 02:20:00,879
Speaker 1: a dip guy. We got a whole back guy. Only

2966
02:20:00,959 --> 02:20:01,800
Speaker 1: back guy, dip guy.

2967
02:20:02,000 --> 02:20:04,280
Speaker 6: We're not going full waffle House play sheet, are we?

2968
02:20:04,440 --> 02:20:08,560
Speaker 1: Oh? Definitely we are, okaya because if I'm head, how.

2969
02:20:08,520 --> 02:20:09,680
Speaker 7: Is it fixed?

2970
02:20:09,879 --> 02:20:12,800
Speaker 1: Is one of those? It's definitely connected to me. It's belt,

2971
02:20:12,840 --> 02:20:15,000
Speaker 1: oh man, connected the tool belt just in case I

2972
02:20:15,360 --> 02:20:17,680
Speaker 1: want to use my hands as the motherfucker ref Yes,

2973
02:20:18,000 --> 02:20:20,760
Speaker 1: you drop it. It's connected to your tool belt. So

2974
02:20:20,800 --> 02:20:22,959
Speaker 1: then I can just what the fuck are you doing?

2975
02:20:23,640 --> 02:20:27,360
Speaker 1: Can you see? Can you see? What'd you get your

2976
02:20:27,360 --> 02:20:28,360
Speaker 1: eyes checked? Blood?

2977
02:20:29,280 --> 02:20:31,320
Speaker 7: What about how you feel about the Microsoft surface?

2978
02:20:32,160 --> 02:20:35,080
Speaker 1: Oh shit? Yeah? All right, Jane, I'll look at play

2979
02:20:35,160 --> 02:20:39,800
Speaker 1: thirty nine. She got it right there? Yeah, right there,

2980
02:20:40,680 --> 02:20:43,879
Speaker 1: open that thing up, Play thirty nine. All right, wall, that's.

2981
02:20:43,760 --> 02:20:46,840
Speaker 6: Off looking like you're reading the app side of the menu.

2982
02:20:46,920 --> 02:20:48,760
Speaker 6: Oh my god, full cheesecake factory.

2983
02:20:49,040 --> 02:20:50,280
Speaker 1: Cheesecake factory menu.

2984
02:20:51,600 --> 02:20:52,520
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh.

2985
02:20:53,400 --> 02:20:55,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, surfaces, we're breaking about three of those a game.

2986
02:20:55,920 --> 02:21:01,160
Speaker 6: Oh guy, Microsoft Stock, we got ashing those bad boys.

2987
02:21:01,720 --> 02:21:03,720
Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'm gonna staying on the table here real quick.

2988
02:21:03,800 --> 02:21:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2989
02:21:04,480 --> 02:21:07,879
Speaker 6: As we're as we're wrapping up this fire fit and say,

2990
02:21:08,160 --> 02:21:13,200
Speaker 6: I absolutely hate anyone post Lombardi era that wears a

2991
02:21:13,240 --> 02:21:15,800
Speaker 6: suit or a tie or any version of that on

2992
02:21:15,840 --> 02:21:17,240
Speaker 6: the sidelines. I hate it.

2993
02:21:17,360 --> 02:21:20,160
Speaker 1: Who's done that? Like Al Golden at Miami was doing

2994
02:21:20,200 --> 02:21:23,080
Speaker 1: it like literally not that long ago.

2995
02:21:23,240 --> 02:21:27,320
Speaker 8: Mike Nolan for the forty nine ers, Jack, I love

2996
02:21:27,400 --> 02:21:29,640
Speaker 8: it because that's fucking football when you wear the coat

2997
02:21:29,680 --> 02:21:31,240
Speaker 8: and the breath and you got the fedora.

2998
02:21:31,600 --> 02:21:34,520
Speaker 7: These guys wearing like windbreakers and ship.

2999
02:21:34,720 --> 02:21:40,720
Speaker 1: I want my coaching bands.

3000
02:21:41,120 --> 02:21:43,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I just I can't do it anymore.

3001
02:21:43,520 --> 02:21:45,120
Speaker 6: It was a time and place. Let's leave it there.

3002
02:21:45,480 --> 02:21:46,640
Speaker 7: Hard disagree, all right.

3003
02:21:46,800 --> 02:21:49,640
Speaker 1: You gotta be Mike Dicka to be able to wear

3004
02:21:49,640 --> 02:21:53,600
Speaker 1: a sweater vest high and he was a badass football player.

3005
02:21:54,000 --> 02:21:57,440
Speaker 1: He could be some dude that just you know, like

3006
02:21:58,360 --> 02:22:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, to Josh's point, D three, dude loves the

3007
02:22:02,600 --> 02:22:04,520
Speaker 1: game of foot. You can't be going in there trying

3008
02:22:04,560 --> 02:22:06,480
Speaker 1: to set a trend on how to fucking dress.

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Speaker 6: No, no, come on, But if.

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Speaker 1: You're Mike Dicka and you want to wear a tie,

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02:22:12,280 --> 02:22:14,040
Speaker 1: I mean when you got it like that, I think

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02:22:14,080 --> 02:22:18,320
Speaker 1: he's eating glass before facts he can do it. I

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02:22:18,320 --> 02:22:19,879
Speaker 1: think I saw it on on YouTube video.

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Speaker 6: If you got your own steak at glass look it up.

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02:22:24,879 --> 02:22:28,959
Speaker 7: One more thing where we're landing on sunglasses. Glasses, no glasses.

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02:22:29,000 --> 02:22:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm not a sunglass guy. Dude, Like he'll never war shades,

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02:22:32,400 --> 02:22:35,080
Speaker 1: not on the You gotta be able to see now

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02:22:35,120 --> 02:22:38,800
Speaker 1: if I had crazy, like if I'm in Miami and

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02:22:38,840 --> 02:22:40,840
Speaker 1: it's I don't know, maybe that like if you get

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02:22:40,879 --> 02:22:43,160
Speaker 1: sun in your eyes when they're putting you on that

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02:22:43,280 --> 02:22:46,080
Speaker 1: visitors sideline. Actually, I think I'm gonna go with Google Glass.

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02:22:49,320 --> 02:22:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Google glass so I could maybe get

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02:22:51,560 --> 02:22:54,080
Speaker 1: like yardage stuff in my thing. So when I'm looking

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02:22:54,120 --> 02:22:55,760
Speaker 1: at the sideline, I can see where the first down

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02:22:55,760 --> 02:22:58,480
Speaker 1: where the drive started. It's like marked in my fucking

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02:22:58,520 --> 02:23:02,119
Speaker 1: goggles Google glass down in distance. I want a VR

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02:23:02,240 --> 02:23:04,800
Speaker 1: thing I want so then I can get a better

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02:23:04,840 --> 02:23:06,879
Speaker 1: look I wanted. I want to I want a camera

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02:23:06,959 --> 02:23:09,400
Speaker 1: on the ball, so then if I'm the coach, I

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02:23:09,400 --> 02:23:11,160
Speaker 1: can see where the quarterback is s thirling with with

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02:23:11,440 --> 02:23:15,200
Speaker 1: like in the pile. I want that first hitd coach

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Speaker 1: right vr hdset.

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02:23:16,360 --> 02:23:19,480
Speaker 7: All right, let's wrap this up, give us the give

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Speaker 7: us the rundown.

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Speaker 6: This full fit coming to a sideline near you. Shanahan,

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02:23:25,720 --> 02:23:29,120
Speaker 6: flat bill, Bill Belichick, cut off hoodie. We got our

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02:23:29,160 --> 02:23:32,800
Speaker 6: rain gear, windbreaker pants not tapered, loose at the bottom,

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02:23:32,879 --> 02:23:35,840
Speaker 6: a little bit bag to him. Ernie taped up rebox

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02:23:35,920 --> 02:23:39,920
Speaker 6: on the feet. We got tins around our belt. We

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02:23:40,000 --> 02:23:42,760
Speaker 6: got a dip guy. We got to hold me back guy.

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02:23:43,320 --> 02:23:47,560
Speaker 6: We have our play sheet that is cheesecake factory, large

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02:23:47,600 --> 02:23:51,720
Speaker 6: fully laminated. It's got multiple foldouts attached to the belt,

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02:23:51,800 --> 02:23:54,280
Speaker 6: affixed so that when we are letting the refs have it,

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02:23:54,280 --> 02:23:58,560
Speaker 6: it is not falling to the ground. And no shades.

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02:23:59,760 --> 02:24:00,280
Speaker 1: That's it.

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02:24:00,280 --> 02:24:00,760
Speaker 6: I think.

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02:24:02,360 --> 02:24:03,000
Speaker 1: Air monarch.

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02:24:03,120 --> 02:24:05,360
Speaker 6: And we got the Ernie taped up rebox.

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02:24:05,400 --> 02:24:08,879
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, good, good good good. No, no taped

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02:24:08,879 --> 02:24:09,240
Speaker 1: every box.

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02:24:09,320 --> 02:24:12,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, just an all time fit.

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02:24:12,959 --> 02:24:15,480
Speaker 1: Dude, I'm dialing up some crazy players.

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02:24:15,959 --> 02:24:17,160
Speaker 6: And we're weird to be our headset.

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02:24:17,360 --> 02:24:22,240
Speaker 1: Sorry, that's an implant, and we gotta what is it

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02:24:22,280 --> 02:24:26,920
Speaker 1: the thing that elon cyber chip? What is it cyber chip. No,

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02:24:27,920 --> 02:24:33,160
Speaker 1: what's it called neural link? I put the neural link in. Remember,

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02:24:33,320 --> 02:24:37,439
Speaker 1: I basically put brain. I put Ernie's brain in a neurallink,

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02:24:37,480 --> 02:24:38,960
Speaker 1: and I just put it. I'm gonna put it in

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02:24:39,000 --> 02:24:39,600
Speaker 1: the back of my.

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02:24:39,600 --> 02:24:41,040
Speaker 6: Neck, right in the cerebellum.

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02:24:41,280 --> 02:24:43,920
Speaker 1: Right. Serotonin.

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02:24:44,520 --> 02:24:46,560
Speaker 6: We'll be having tons of that after we after we

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02:24:46,640 --> 02:24:49,240
Speaker 6: score touchdowns, and after we do this live show.

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02:24:49,240 --> 02:24:49,600
Speaker 1: This week.

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02:24:49,720 --> 02:24:52,320
Speaker 8: Let's live show was finished by the time, I hope

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02:24:52,320 --> 02:24:55,280
Speaker 8: you got an awesome time and everything levels are I'll

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02:24:55,320 --> 02:24:55,879
Speaker 8: be wearing.

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02:24:55,680 --> 02:24:59,240
Speaker 1: That merge hell e merge. Well, that was a hell

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Speaker 1: of a game. That was a hell of an episode.

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02:25:01,280 --> 02:25:05,400
Speaker 1: Thanks again to Josh. That's been another episode of Games

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