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Speaker 1: What's genuine and authentic will always work for you. And

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Speaker 1: if you're trying to be something else, if you're trying

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome to the Bobbycast. We're gonna be talking

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Speaker 2: with Averyanna, who is a great songwriter, great artist. But

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Speaker 2: I stumbled across one of her tiktoks where she's playing

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Speaker 2: an Ozzy Osbourne song and it kind of blew my mind.

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Speaker 2: So we'll talk to her growing up in Arizona. She's

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Speaker 2: gonna bring her favorite records and songwriting and how hard

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Speaker 2: me the Bobby Cast from Nashville, Tennessee with Averrianna. Avery's

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Speaker 2: nice to meet you.

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Speaker 3: It's nice to meet you.

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Speaker 2: I did something with you to get you up here

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Speaker 2: that I haven't ever done. I saw one TikTok video

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Speaker 2: And I went back looking before you came in to

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Speaker 2: look at your TikTok just to see if they was

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Speaker 2: anything that I want to talk about. I never realized

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Speaker 2: that you took that message and responded, Yeah, I did that.

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Speaker 2: You doing Ozzy Osbourne No More Tears? It's so cool.

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 2: Did you expect and maybe you did, but I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure the reaction you got from it. Did you get

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Speaker 1: It's been a big it's been a popular topic of conversation.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do that song? How did you know

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Speaker 3: I just did. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I love Ozzy Osbourne. I grew up on Ozzy Osbourne

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Speaker 1: I remember we were touring in Europe and I said

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Speaker 2: A war between people hate it.

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Speaker 1: Some people are like, this is awesome. Majority of people

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Speaker 2: You know why that's good because that's goods amazing well,

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Speaker 1: Right, it's just funny too, because no one really like

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Speaker 2: Something else that I enjoyed was you are a whistling

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Speaker 2: You're proficient at whistling. Now, did you get good at

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Speaker 2: It's hard to whistle though, in a microphone because different

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Speaker 2: It sounds great on stage.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a very good whistler.

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Speaker 2: So that's the first level. The second level is once

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So you're already full grown now?

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Speaker 1: No, it's fun to grow and evolve and learn in

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Speaker 2: But do you ever go downtown to Broadway?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Did you have your phase where you did that?

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Speaker 4: No?

446
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 3: I don't like. I don't like part of your drinker.

447
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,680
Speaker 2: I don't either. But when I moved here, I went

448
00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 2: because I thought that's what you did when you moved here.

449
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,360
Speaker 1: You know, I moved here when I was seventeen and

450
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 1: I just didn't really like go out.

451
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,439
Speaker 3: I mean I wasn't old enough to go in the

452
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,160
Speaker 3: bars anyways.

453
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,640
Speaker 2: And so you just now are right?

454
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:51,679
Speaker 3: I just yeah, I'm twenty one.

455
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I was asking, do you when you

456
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 2: turn twenty one? Even though you don't, do you go right?

457
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:57,639
Speaker 3: If I?

458
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,199
Speaker 1: If I maybe like established that earlier, I mean I

459
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,439
Speaker 1: could now yeah, I mean I will be the life

460
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 1: of the party on a diet coke.

461
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong.

462
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 2: So do not drink at all? No, I don't have

463
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 2: I don't I've never had a drink, right, You's.

464
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 3: Why we're best friends.

465
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 2: Have you had a drink?

466
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, I've tasted alcohol before.

467
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:15,400
Speaker 2: How does it taste?

468
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

469
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 3: Really bad.

470
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 2: It's terrible. It it smells bad.

471
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 3: It smells bad. It smells like pea. It tastes like

472
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 3: not good. I don't know why people like it.

473
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 2: I know that if I drink, I would drink a

474
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,479
Speaker 2: lot because I would do everything right times one hundred, OK.

475
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 2: And I just know I would be like Peanut.

476
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 3: Colatta, boy, Peanut Colada.

477
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 2: It would be I would drink the most fruit fruit drinks,

478
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 2: so I would be down to two slippery slopes. It'd

479
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 2: be like I'd be drinking like crazy. And also it

480
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 2: would be the fruitiest you ever see those like dancing

481
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 2: women that have all the fruit on top of their head.

482
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 2: That'd be what all the drinks will look like that

483
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:56,199
Speaker 2: I would have.

484
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would need I would need a lot of sugar.

485
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 2: In mind, you moved here at seventeen.

486
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 3: I did.

487
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 2: Was that if I'm doing the math, was that around COVID.

488
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 3: It was right after COVID, So I moved here.

489
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 2: Did you finish high school? During COVID?

490
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 1: I did Zoom online for half of my junior year

491
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 1: and then I moved July the end of July.

492
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 3: Of twenty twenty one, and I finished my senior year online.

493
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 2: And you just knew you wanted to move to Nashville.

494
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 3: No, I didn't.

495
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: I didn't even know this was a possibility for me.

496
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 1: I didn't think I was that good. I always loved music,

497
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 1: and it was music was more of like a like breathing,

498
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: Like I said, for me, it was a very private

499
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: thing unless I was singing in church and when I

500
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 1: went viral for singing in the bathtub during COVID. And

501
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: then I got in contact with my managers and I

502
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 1: signed a record deal and I moved like after I

503
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 1: signed a record in that order, in that order, and

504
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 1: within this span of six I got in contact with

505
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: my manager's October twenty twenty and then we started releasing

506
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: some music. And then I had like every now in hindsight,

507
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: I had like every label in town wanting to meet

508
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: with me, and I met with like I think we

509
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: did like thirteen Zoom meetings, and then I signed with Warner.

510
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 2: How do you pick a label when you're only meeting

511
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 2: with them over zoom.

512
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.

513
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: I just I'm a very spiritual person, very like intuitive,

514
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: like I trust my gut most of the time. And

515
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 1: I just felt really good about Warner and they just

516
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: felt very endearing and like they actually cared about what

517
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: I had to say and not just kind of like

518
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 1: wanting to, you know, sign a viral sensation and let

519
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: it be what it is.

520
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 3: It felt like genuine.

521
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: So I signed and then I moved and I didn't

522
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: even know, like I knew about the grand of opry,

523
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: but I didn't really know that Nashville was like the

524
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: place you go to become, you know, a country music star.

525
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: I guess I should have known that, but I just

526
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: didn't really like put the pieces together in my head.

527
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 3: I didn't even know what I wanted to do with

528
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 3: my life.

529
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: And then I was just like this feels right, and

530
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: I moved and I lived in the house by myself for.

531
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: Like well, I was finishing school. Was seen at seventeen?

532
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 2: Were you emancipated?

533
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 3: No?

534
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: No, my parents are very supportive of me. I just

535
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: have three other siblings. They had lives to do and

536
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: work to do. And I am self sufficient. I was

537
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: just like I just I'm very indecisive. Like I said,

538
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: I brought two records. But that was the only decision

539
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: in my life that I've ever been like, this is

540
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: the right thing to do, and I know it. And

541
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: I remember telling my mom that, and everyone in my family,

542
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: like my extended family and our friends and everyone in

543
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: my town thought that I was crazy.

544
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 3: And then my parents are crazy for letting me do that.

545
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 1: But I think both of my parents and myself just

546
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: a lot of peace that it was like the right thing.

547
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 2: I don't know what is Nashville like. When you move

548
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: here and start to see other people who are doing

549
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 2: what you're trying to do, it's really cool.

550
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: You would think that it's intimidating, and it is at times,

551
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: but I just feel like the little girl inside of

552
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: me that wanted to talk to everyone about Patsy Klein

553
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 1: that no one really cared because everyone called me grandma.

554
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: Growing up, I just loved the classic country but everyone

555
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: here has their own, you know, music taste, and everyone's

556
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 1: really passionate about it, and there's so much talent. It

557
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: was just really like creatively, I was like very very stimulated, and.

558
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 3: I was just starry eyed at it.

559
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: I'd never even been to the side of the country,

560
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 1: so I didn't know that there's this many trees here.

561
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: And I remember I was like driving down the road

562
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 1: and I was like, one of these days, I'm going

563
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 1: to plow down one of these mailboxes and trash cans

564
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: because the roads are.

565
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 3: So narrow too.

566
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: It's a lot of things that It was a very

567
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: big culture shock for me going from Arizona. It's like Tennessee, what.

568
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: Do you do at eighteen nineteen years old here when

569
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: you're living by yourself? When you make friends? Right? Do

570
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 2: you go to songwriter arounds?

571
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 5: Like?

572
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: How do you make your circle?

573
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: I met a lot of my friends at church, but

574
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: it was really hard for me because I wasn't going

575
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: to school or anything, so it wasn't like I had

576
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: like people my age to socialize with.

577
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 3: I was really just writing all the time with people.

578
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: That were, you know, late twenties, thirties, forties, So all

579
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: my friends were way older than me. Because I consider

580
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: like the people that I write with my friends and

581
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 1: like my brothers too. So I remember my first co

582
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: write was with Ben Williams and Andy Sheridan and they're

583
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: still like my big brothers to this day. So that

584
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: was really cool. And yeah, I met people at church

585
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: and I like went to the grocery store and didn't

586
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: know what to buy and I was like, I bought

587
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: in avocado and some apples and beef. I still don't

588
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: really know how to cook because I'm touring now and

589
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: I don't need you too.

590
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, what's it like to go viral?

591
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: Looks fabulous, I'm sure you totally understand, But looks fabulous

592
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: when you're on the other side of the screen and

593
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: when you're looking at all the millions of views and likes,

594
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: And it's really cool because it gave me my career,

595
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: really did, so I'm really grateful for what it is.

596
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: But the adrenaline dump after going viral is a big

597
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: thing too. That was challenging that I wasn't anticipating.

598
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 2: What do you mean by that.

599
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 3: It's interesting to.

600
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: Go from music being something that you do for fun

601
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 1: to all of the sudden it's your livelihood.

602
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 3: And when you go viral.

603
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: It's instant gratification. It's very stimulating. You are kind of

604
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: on like a cloud nine. And then if your next

605
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: video only gets a thousand views rather than two million views,

606
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, if this gave me my success, could

607
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 1: it also take it away? And that that thought was

608
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: something that I struggled with a lot in the beginning,

609
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: and I was very conscious of what I was posting

610
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,360
Speaker 1: and and trying to, you know, still be as good

611
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: as I was when I was megaviral, and I don't know,

612
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 1: you kind of just learn the longer that you do

613
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,479
Speaker 1: it that it's just it all comes in waves and

614
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: what's genuine and authentic will always work for you. And

615
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: if you're trying to be something else, if you're trying

616
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: to be viral, if you're trying to be you know, commercial,

617
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: if you're not, if you're trying to be artsy, if

618
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: you're not, it's just not going to work. You just

619
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: have to really go with your gut and say what

620
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: you want to say, and not just say something to say.

621
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: Something, you know what I mean?

622
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, not just add to your feed because you feel

623
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: like you need to add to your.

624
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: Feed, right, not just I think that that's a very

625
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,959
Speaker 1: it works for a lot of people, and a lot

626
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: of people have found success that way. From being consistently

627
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: posting every single day, like three videos a day, and

628
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: I had a lot of pressure to do that very

629
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: early on, and it just it's just not right and

630
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: it's not natural for people to like, surely no one

631
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: has something to say three times a day.

632
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: Now I don't, and I have to talk for six hours.

633
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: A day, and I feel very It sucked the creativity

634
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: out of me until I realized how to set boundaries

635
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: with it.

636
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 5: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

637
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 5: Bobby Cast.

638
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: It's got to be messing with your mind. When you

639
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: crush crush and then you do a video, you think

640
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 2: it's probably even better than the ones that crushed, and

641
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: it doesn't. Yeah, And I get in that trap too,

642
00:29:53,360 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 2: where I'll do a couple even thematically does great, does great? Oh,

643
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: this one's even better and it does way worse, And

644
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: then I start to question do I even know what

645
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 2: I'm doing.

646
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: It's so interesting too, because sometimes a song will do

647
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: really well live for me, and it'll be a really big,

648
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: like a really big moment in the show, and then

649
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: online it won't translate.

650
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

651
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: I just decided that I'm going to speak when I

652
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: have something to say, and post when I have something

653
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: to post that is of quality. That's one of my

654
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: resolutions this year.

655
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: Whenever you sang in the bathtub, did that pop the

656
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: first time?

657
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

658
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

659
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: It was at like ten million views, I think, and

660
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: I was honestly, I never would have posted my singing

661
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: on TikTok if it weren't for COVID, because I was

662
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: very conscious of what people thought about me.

663
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: And did you sing in public at all?

664
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: I did. I did a talent show one time.

665
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: Oh you're talking one time, So it wasn't something you

666
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: were young.

667
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: I've never played a show before this. I'd never played

668
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: the show. I wasn't gigging.

669
00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 3: I mean I was.

670
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: I sang in church, but I come from a very

671
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: you know, traditional reverend church. It wasn't like worship band.

672
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: It was like in a piano, yeah, hymns.

673
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

674
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: It was very sacred, and so music has always been

675
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: really sacred to me. So for that to go, you know,

676
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: from that to this is it's crazy. It's literally insane

677
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: for me.

678
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: Was it one of those where you posted and then

679
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: you didn't realize it was so viral and then you

680
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: look at your phone or did you have your notifications

681
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: on where you could tell you could like feel it.

682
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: I've always had my notifications off for social media. But

683
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: I remember I sang say something in the bathtub and.

684
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: Lady aga no, no, Christina agular.

685
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 3: I say something great, big world, but she's.

686
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: She sang it with them, Yes, got it? I say that,

687
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: say something and on you yeah yeah, yeah got it. Yeah.

688
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 1: And it was just very It was a place I

689
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: sang in the bathroom because that was the one place

690
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: in the house that no one was in. And I have,

691
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: like I said, three siblings, and everyone was doing their

692
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: and I was supposed to be doing my school, but

693
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: I would just like mute. I remember it was always

694
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: during culinary I'd meet my culinary class on zoom and

695
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: just sing in the bathtub and the acoustics were good

696
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: in there, and my parents have a luxurious bathtub. And

697
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: then it went viral, and I didn't want to tell

698
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: my mom because I was like, surely she'll tell me

699
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: I needed to lead TikTok, Like she.

700
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 3: Didn't even know TikTok was a thing.

701
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: And so my cousin was living with us at the time,

702
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: she was going to college at NAU and it was

703
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: at like eight million views and it had been like

704
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: a couple of days, I think, and she was like

705
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: test I've been trying to go viral on TikTok for

706
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: months now, and Avery just went viral, like this is

707
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: really huge, this is cool, She's gonna be famous.

708
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 3: And my mom was.

709
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: Like, those aren't real people like you guys are so killy.

710
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 3: She's like, that's just the Internet.

711
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: Those aren't like real people. And I think she was

712
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: in denial because she was like, what is happening? And

713
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: then I just kept post singing it kept going viral.

714
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: And what'd you do second?

715
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think I did a Harry Styles cover.

716
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: Were you thinking about it a lot on your second one?

717
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: Or was it just let me just pick something?

718
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 3: No, I wasn't even thinking, Like.

719
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: My brain was not business calculated at all at all.

720
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: I'm not an ounce of it in my body. I

721
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: was just like, this is fun. This song makes me

722
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: want to cry.

723
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 3: Let's sing it.

724
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: You know when that first video popped, were managers or

725
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: labels in your dms already or was it a couple

726
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: or few as I didn't.

727
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: Check my dms, But it was like a week or

728
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: two after I was like, oh, like this major record

729
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: label just DMT, they want to meet. And I remember

730
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: I had just ignored them or kept saying no to people.

731
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: And I just got one DM from David Fanning and

732
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was about it, but I

733
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: felt like like I just felt like I needed to reply,

734
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: and I replied with like, how much money is this

735
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: going to cost me? And he was like nothing, Like

736
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: if anyone says it's going to cost you anything, like

737
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 1: run the other way. And then I met with him

738
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: and it just the rest is history. I can't even

739
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: it went so fast. It was just like the blink

740
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: of an eye.

741
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: Did the Parma League guys put David Fanning onto you?

742
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: They did? They were they were like scrolling through TikTok

743
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 3: with David.

744
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: I think they they were at his house or on

745
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: the bus maybe I can't remember, but Matt was like,

746
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: this girl's really good. You should check her out. And

747
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: then David dammed me. And then Parmally, it was full circle.

748
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: Parmally had me feature on a song Forget You on

749
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,959
Speaker 1: their album, and that was really cool for me because

750
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 1: I've been listening to their music since they started.

751
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 2: I think you said a minute ago you were in

752
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: a culinary class on zoom, but then you said, way

753
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: before that, you did know how.

754
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 1: To cook I still do not a cook like I can.

755
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: I think I could if I needed to. But people

756
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: always as like what I eat or what I what

757
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: I ate? When I first moved here, like what did

758
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: I cook for myself? And I genuinely don't know?

759
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 2: But you weren't. You take in a coulinary?

760
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: Right?

761
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: But it was also on I.

762
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: Would pause it so I could sing, Oh, how do

763
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: you pause a zoom?

764
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 3: I just turn off my camera in the mic and I.

765
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: Turned this and let them just keep going, and you

766
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 2: would just sing, right, got it? That makes sense.

767
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: I guess maybe I should make up lost time and

768
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 1: take a culinary class one of these days.

769
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: No, at this point, you got enough going on, right,

770
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: You don't have to worry about that. Are you on

771
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: a bus yet?

772
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 3: I was for this last tour, which was the first

773
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 3: game changer, right, game changer? It was the first time

774
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 3: I I.

775
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: Thought about that, like, not just the bus, but I

776
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: don't unless you've been in it. It's hard to understand

777
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,479
Speaker 2: how much easier the bus makes life and why people

778
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: just don't grab buses because they're so expensive.

779
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: People don't comprehend the difference between like van touring and

780
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: bus touring.

781
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: And tell me about ban touring.

782
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: So before van touring, I was driving around in my

783
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: suv around the country, opening for like Josh Turner and

784
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: Martina mcbre and Chase Rice and playing my piano and

785
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: queuing like tracks on my own, which I will never

786
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: do that again. It was a time it was like

787
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: a piano recital for people before they you know, we're

788
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: singing songs about beer, so it's really funny. But after that, yeah,

789
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: I had a band for the first time, which was

790
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: really cool. And when you tour in a van, you

791
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: you drive in the morning, you play the show, and

792
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 1: right after the show if you're not you know, sometimes

793
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 1: I would go on stage and sing with the artist

794
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: I was opening for. But then you drive through the

795
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: night too and depending on the routing, which my routing

796
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: was always kind of kind of rocky. Remember there was

797
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: a show we drove. We were in New York and

798
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: had to drive to I think it was Michigan for

799
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: a festival.

800
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: And you guys have to drive and we had to.

801
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: I also was like, I know how to pull a

802
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: trailer a group doing that with horses and everything, and

803
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: there was only it was me and my guitar player

804
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: and my drummer for a while, shifting, shifting, and people

805
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: don't realize it takes a while to like find a team.

806
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: It takes a while to find a band, especially if

807
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: you don't grow up with people like playing music.

808
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 3: A lot of a lot of artists get the luxury

809
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:21,959
Speaker 3: of like.

810
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: Growing up with the people around them and the cruise

811
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: and the band and everything. But I didn't know anybody,

812
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: so it took me a while to like find people

813
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: that fit. And so yeah, we ended up driving like

814
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: through the entire night, and we played the show late

815
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: at night, and then the next show was the festival.

816
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: So it was at like three. I was playing in

817
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: a tent and you're exhausted, and I had no I

818
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: had no sleep. I didn't sleep, and I got ready

819
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: in the passenger seat of the band. In the mirror

820
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: was like this big and I remember that show. My

821
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: guitar strap like came off while I was playing the

822
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: rock chorus of It's Just Raining, and I like held

823
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: it up with my leg. I was just holding out

824
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: for dear life. And it went by and I was

825
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: like sleep deprived, and I was like, dang, the day

826
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: I go viral is the day I had no sleep.

827
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: So when you get a bus, how much does everything

828
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 2: change everything?

829
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this tour was so fun. You have

830
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 1: time to like, I don't know. I was always worried about,

831
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 1: you know, parking the trailer or fixing the truck's rig

832
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: or loading in with the guys and like helping him

833
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: set up, just because like there was only ever two

834
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: of them. And so now it's like I had eleven people.

835
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: On the bus and a bus driver and a bus.

836
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 3: Driver and he was amazing. He was so awesome.

837
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: And you get to sleep in the bus on a ball.

838
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 3: Sleep in the bus on a bunk.

839
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: You if you want to go banana, there's.

840
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: Like you can wake up and walk around, or you

841
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: can sleep until two if you want to, or you

842
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: can you know, I always have a really hard time

843
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: falling asleep after a show because the adrenaline is so

844
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: high and and so I stay up really late on

845
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: the bus. Everyone goes to bed and I sit in

846
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: the room and like journal and I can read my scriptures.

847
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: In a van, you're just like sleep deprived and taking

848
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: shifts driving and yeah, and you smell and.

849
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 3: The bus still smells. Don't get me wrong. That's what

850
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: we have.

851
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: Essentral oils for depending on how many dudes are in

852
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: the bus.

853
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: Yes, lots, lots of guys. We had four girls in

854
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: the crew though, so which was really fun.

855
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: Do girls this is a question. I don't know if

856
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 2: I feel comorb asking, but as a guy, when we

857
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 2: would have a bus and there's seven or eight, there's

858
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: there are bathroom rules, you don't go on the bus. Yeah.

859
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: Do girls have that rule?

860
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

861
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: You do? Yeah, okay, uh yeah, I don't know, because

862
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: you guys aren't gross like us.

863
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 3: Well, girls poop too, you.

864
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: Know, I know, but I didn't know. Guys are just

865
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 2: guys are gross.

866
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 3: Guys are gross. Luckily, my crew hygiene is good. Girls.

867
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: I would say guys are dirty and girls are messy,

868
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: and those are two very different, you know, types of clean.

869
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: Have you thought about writing that song girls poop too?

870
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: Girls poop too? I could totally write that song. I know.

871
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: Just the people to call that is. I think that's

872
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: a number.

873
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 3: One unless you're touring though, I don't know.

874
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: I just think it's a number one. Sometimes I hear

875
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 2: and I'm like, girls poop too, that's a hit.

876
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: If a guy is like, can't stand the fact that

877
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: girls like poop or have a period.

878
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know about you.

879
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 2: I don't mind the period, yeah, but I don't like

880
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: my wife. Yeah, and I'll go. I've never been afraid

881
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 2: to buy Tampa, no problem with that. I don't like

882
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: my wife to see me even do poopy stuff. I

883
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: don't even I don't even like to it's bathroom too,

884
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: I don't just generally speaking, I don't like bathroom. So

885
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: it's not about her because she's so much. My wife

886
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 2: is so free and she's just like the body's the body.

887
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 3: It's just like I'm gonna tell you if she needs

888
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 3: to go. Yeah, I'm the weird one, right, that's okay,

889
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 3: that's all right.

890
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: I don't And I even call a bathroom talk and

891
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: she's like, you're you're not eight.

892
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: Right, Well, you take me as a guy that like

893
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: your car is clean, and like.

894
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,240
Speaker 2: It's my car. If it's dirty, it's a little bit messy,

895
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: it's never dirty. Right, So if you went right now,

896
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: there's there's a bag from Aloe in the back that

897
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 2: I took all the stuff out, but the bag is

898
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: still there and probably like an empty sonic cup and

899
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: they're putting it and that's like dirty right beside each other, right, So.

900
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: For me, like I won't have like sticky stuff in

901
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: my car, Like there will never be like sticky stething. No,

902
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: I like I will throw food away and stuff like

903
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm not dirty, but you've messed met like my whole

904
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,479
Speaker 1: closets in the backseat of my car.

905
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: You know, that's kind of a nature of the job though, too.

906
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 3: My girl, and I also, I'm yeah, I changed my

907
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 3: out for a lot.

908
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,879
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909
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 4: our sponsor, and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

910
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: Something that I struggled with whenever things started to work

911
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: for me was all the money I was expected to

912
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: spend on clothes.

913
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I could write a novel about this, seriously,

914
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: because I didn't grow up buying clothes, and so I've

915
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: never known like my style was handy downs, and like

916
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: I've always liked if it looks like it came from

917
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: my grandma's closet, That's what I like. And so it

918
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 1: still translates in my style, especially on stage, to this day.

919
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: But I went from, you know, living off of handy

920
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: downs to like, all of a sudden, I need to

921
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: buy outfit on stage that makes me look like an

922
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: artist and makes me look cool, but also something that's

923
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: comfortable to like move around in. And yeah, I found

924
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: myself not feeling comfortable with spending money on clothes. It

925
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: felt like a sin. And now I just am like,

926
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: if I like it, and I know I'm going to

927
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: look back at photos or videos of me in it

928
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: and like it, then I just need to buy it.

929
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: I got a step ahead of it because it was

930
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: so odd for me to buy clothes for red carpets

931
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: or television. And I got fortunate too. I had certain

932
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: shows that would give me budgets for clothes, and so

933
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: I buy the clothes that i'd never spend all and

934
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: keep the rest of the money. Greatest scheme ever. The

935
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: second part was I when I was doing a lot

936
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 2: of stand up, I wore a uniform. It's because I

937
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: don't want to buy different clothes, so I wore the

938
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: same clothes every night. And people thought, Wow, look at him.

939
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: He's really strategic and what a brand. I just didn't

940
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: want to buy clothes.

941
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, that's funny.

942
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: I do admire like even with Megan or Taylor Swift,

943
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: and they have like an outfit, like that's their outfit

944
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 1: for the tour.

945
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 3: I have yet to be there.

946
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm also in decisive so I don't know if I

947
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: could wear one outfit for like a whole tour.

948
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 2: Do you get the Megan Maroney comparisons all.

949
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: The time, Yeah, which is so funny, especially in the beginning,

950
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: But it's so funny because we're two completely different, like

951
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: completely different.

952
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: Lanes and so blonde hair.

953
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 3: Really that's songs about the ex'es is, but.

954
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 2: It's the vulnerability and the blonde hair.

955
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm honored to be compared to Megan, and I've been

956
00:43:54,480 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: compared to to Taylor Swift and to Stevie Nix, and

957
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: I feel like people find a hard time like pinpointing,

958
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: like who to compare me to? So I've heard like

959
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: a lot of different things.

960
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 2: I feel like Megan Maroney is the best young songwriter

961
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: that's an artist.

962
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: She's very a very classic songwriter. She embodies a lot

963
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 1: of that classic country and.

964
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: It's very.

965
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: It's very uh like it is like poetry, like it's

966
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: gonna rhyme, it's gonna fit, it's going to be like

967
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: a system.

968
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's really a genius, and she's a marketing.

969
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: Genius too, very specific, very specific to her yeah.

970
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: Which I think there's a real art to that. Yeah,

971
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 2: because you could be so specific and think, well, no

972
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: one's going to understand this, yeah, Or you can be

973
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: very specific and have the confidence to go someone's gonna

974
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 2: find their story in my specificity right totally, which I

975
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 2: feel like you do that too. Though when I say that,

976
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: I feel like you do that too. I'm very song.

977
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: With my songwriting. I also am not like married one sound.

978
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: I feel like Megan is like she has created her sound.

979
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 1: I have like five different sounds, and I think that's

980
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: it's a strength and a downfall for me because I

981
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: don't really have like I wish that I was more

982
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: calculated than I am, and I wish that I could

983
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: be like, this is the sound for this album, it's

984
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: gonna be this one genre. I'm gonna wear this one color.

985
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: But I just don't function like that, and I think

986
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: if I did, I would feel like I was in

987
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: a jail.

988
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: Cell. I think you'll get there though, or I think

989
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: you maybe. Yeah, I think you'll get to a point

990
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: that you you've figured out a strategy right for it.

991
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: It's funny because it's harder for people to figure out

992
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: like my brand and like what my specific sound is

993
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: and my.

994
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: If I were to ask you, I I am just me.

995
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: And it's hard to I think it will take me

996
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: releasing more music to really establish that and like paint

997
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: my own life. But it's been very adamant that like

998
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: I should just pick country or pick rock or pick

999
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: old school inde, you.

1000
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

1001
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: It is old school, but it's funny because you'd think

1002
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: that that would be old school, and especially within or not.

1003
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: Like I mean, people listen to all genres and so yeah,

1004
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm just an Arizona girl that likes to sing sad songs.

1005
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: What instrument did you play? First?

1006
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: Piano? Yeah, I took lessons when I was younger, and

1007
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: I never practice and I still can't read music. I

1008
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: would like do piano recitals with my sister and she

1009
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: would get every note perfect and she would practice. She

1010
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: was good and she doesn't play anymore, but I would

1011
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: just be like my pianos. I'd I'd miss a couple

1012
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: notes and just like laugh about it and be done.

1013
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: But I quit when I was I think in sixth grade,

1014
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: and then I really like taught myself after that because

1015
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: I would look up like songs that I liked to play,

1016
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: and I would zoom it on people's fingers and then

1017
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: just copy it. But my grandpa, he's like he hears

1018
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: everything by ear. He's like he can't read music, but

1019
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 1: he just does everything by year. And I think that's

1020
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: where I got that from.

1021
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 2: When did you play guitar?

1022
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 3: I think I was in sixth grade as well.

1023
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 2: Did you ask for a guitar?

1024
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, for Christmas? I did.

1025
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: Did you take to it immediately?

1026
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? I did.

1027
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: I learned the ukulele and then I like committed to

1028
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: zooming it on people's fingers on YouTube to learn the guitar.

1029
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: A lot of zooming.

1030
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure I could have. I'm sure I could, Yes,

1031
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: lots of zooming. I'm sure I could have done an

1032
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: easier way to learn, But I don't know why in

1033
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: my mind that was like the way that I needed

1034
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: to do it.

1035
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 2: So your last record came out in May. I assume

1036
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: you've written a ton of songs.

1037
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I've I have some.

1038
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been a lot of different sounds that I've

1039
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: played around with. But I think this year I've finally

1040
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: like decided a little more specifically on what I want thinks.

1041
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 2: Of Lane a little bit painting my lane.

1042
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: And I'm also I feel like I finally have a voice.

1043
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,479
Speaker 1: Not that anyone ever tried to take my voice away

1044
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: or no, like no one ever tried to like shut

1045
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: me up.

1046
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 3: But I just.

1047
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: Didn't really know how to like set the boundaries and

1048
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: say what I wanted. And now I feel like I

1049
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,959
Speaker 1: finally do like a letters. It was like the first

1050
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 1: time I ever like played with that. Yeah, But now

1051
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: I I feel like I know what I want to say,

1052
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 1: and I've got some songs that give me a lot

1053
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: of anxiety and a lot of scared feelings.

1054
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: And yeah, I feel like you dancing and all the

1055
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 2: lanes will help you realize what lane you're supposed to

1056
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: be in. Yeah, And also you can always change lanes.

1057
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: Right, And I've always loved, Yeah, I've always loved so

1058
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: many different genres of music, and I've appreciated artists of

1059
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: you know, all decades. And I don't know, there is

1060
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: a piece of me and a lot of different genres,

1061
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I guess I just have to like

1062
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: tiptoe through them.

1063
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: But let's do mount rushmore favorite artists ever? Pay four? Okay,

1064
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 2: Patsy Clin, Can I do bands?

1065
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: Yeah's Cline lumineers, my gosh, probably, I mean I have

1066
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: to say.

1067
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift, she like you don't have to say that.

1068
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: I do, though, because she's such a big part of

1069
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: my that.

1070
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: Would be a reason they say that. Yes, yeah, you don't.

1071
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 3: Have I think right now, Noah Kahn.

1072
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: And that's four. You can't add anymore. Who are you

1073
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: gonna say, though? If there was another head that was

1074
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 2: being sculpted on the mountain.

1075
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: Willie Nelson and Kimmy Rhodes together singing I just drove.

1076
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 2: By Man, you are really specific on that one.

1077
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like the first song I ever learned,

1078
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: and that's the go to with my grandpa. He dementia,

1079
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: so he only remembers certain songs.

1080
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: Uh.

1081
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: There's a couple of Patsy ones and that one, though,

1082
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: is like it's like shaped me as a person. It's

1083
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: like the core of my my being.

1084
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 2: What song do you think you've covered the most?

1085
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: Probably hymns, probably like Amazing Grace. I've sang that one

1086
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: in a couple of shows when I felt like I

1087
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:39,479
Speaker 1: needed to. Oh my gosh, I sing love Stories so much.

1088
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 3: The fans love it.

1089
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: Not the hymn the tailor sweast the tailor sweat. Yeah,

1090
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 2: basically different kind of hymn, basically.

1091
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: Him for the girls or the guys or the gaye

1092
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: doesn't matter.

1093
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I sang.

1094
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: I think I've sang that one for like two years

1095
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: on tour because people love it, and I don't know,

1096
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: I can't find a song that I could cover that

1097
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: does as well as that one. Besides maybe No More

1098
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: Tears now, so I'm sure I'll do that one for

1099
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: longer than I did Love Story.

1100
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: What I hope doesn't happen before I get to my

1101
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 2: last question, is that No More Tears hits for you

1102
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 2: so hard in a way that you get annoyed that

1103
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 2: you have to play it in two years.

1104
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 3: I don't know if I could ever get annoyed with it.

1105
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 2: I hope you don't.

1106
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: I think I I think I dump a lot of

1107
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: angry feelings into that when I sing it, like I

1108
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: really just let it all rip. And I'm not really

1109
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: like an angry person because I stuff my angry feelings down,

1110
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: and so I don't know if I'll ever not.

1111
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: Have Well, that doesn't feel healthy though, just just that's healthy.

1112
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong.

1113
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: I know I'm a walking red flag, like I'm very aware,

1114
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: so but that I don't know if I'll never like

1115
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: enjoy it.

1116
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 3: It's fun.

1117
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 2: Final question, what is your final death?

1118
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 5: Row?

1119
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: Meal?

1120
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 3: A stake, sat mac and cheese.

1121
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: This is so weird, but I love beet salads and

1122
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: peach cobbler.

1123
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 2: Not a beat guy.

1124
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: I've never been a beat girl. I thought they were

1125
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: always gross. My dad always loved them, and now I

1126
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: just like them. I don't they taste like they do?

1127
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: Taste like earth a little bit.

1128
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: That's a good. Yeah, what's a beat taste like earth?

1129
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: He nailed it.

1130
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, tastes like earth I have. I didn't have it, say,

1131
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 3: moved here. I didn't know that was a thing.

1132
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 2: What about sweet tea.

1133
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 3: Or no, I've no, I don't drink sweet tea. I've

1134
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 3: tasted it. I didn't love it. Yeah, I know.

1135
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say it's an acquired taste. But it's all

1136
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: I drank. I'm from Arkansas.

1137
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 3: It's sweet, right, you know it's a very cool thing.

1138
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 2: Did you ever have kool Aid?

1139
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1140
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: I did, but it wasn't like a I have more

1141
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: precense than kolated But yeah, they're like grits and okra

1142
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: and or bread grits.

1143
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 3: I didn't. Yeah, very it was a big culture. Chocolate

1144
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 3: food too, and barbecue.

1145
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 2: Was really good out here, was it not there?

1146
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: I mean there's no barbecue places and Flox staff. No,

1147
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: but my dad always like, you know, cook to the meats.

1148
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 2: So what's the goal this year? Give me a goal

1149
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: at the end of the year, you want to say

1150
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 2: that at the.

1151
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: End of the year, I want to say I really

1152
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: introduced myself for the first time, because I've established that,

1153
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a songwriter and vulnerable songwriter, and I

1154
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: connected a lot with the fans this past year with

1155
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: legal letters and the meaning of it and touring and

1156
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 1: just really creating like a community. And I think it's

1157
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: time for me to like really show people who I

1158
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: am and what I believe in, where I came from,

1159
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: what I think is important enough to say and put

1160
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: on a record. And so this year, I hope by

1161
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: the end of the year I could say that I

1162
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: really like established and planted my roots and you know,

1163
00:53:59,000 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: gave a good introduction.

1164
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 2: That's super cool.

1165
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, excited.

1166
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you came by.

1167
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 3: Thank you. It's nice to talk to you.

1168
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: I'm a fan and I was watching some of your

1169
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 2: oppery stuff too. When it happened, I would just see,

1170
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 2: you know small. I mean, I'm kind of exposed to everything,

1171
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 2: so nothing really pops ever ye ever. Ever. And then

1172
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 2: when I saw no more tears, I hope you take

1173
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: this the right way, I was like, Oh, that's girl

1174
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: sing in the bathtub. Wow, that's completely different.

1175
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 3: That's okay.

1176
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 2: And then I thought, man, I gotta see what she's about.

1177
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm rooting for you.

1178
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1179
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 2: Yeah really awesome.

1180
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: Well I'm rooting for you, not that you need I

1181
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: do need it.

1182
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 2: I need it more than ever. Will you ever back

1183
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 2: in the bathtub and sing again?

1184
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 3: Of course? Yeah.

1185
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 1: If I get a luxurious clofet bathtub of my own,

1186
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 1: nice to probably make some money first.

1187
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: So okay, when you make money and you get an

1188
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: independent bathtub.

1189
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 1: And cloff at bathtub and I will have a big

1190
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: one stained glass window.

1191
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 2: Oh you're going now, you do extra. You always go extra.

1192
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: It's like your fifth Mountaine person.

1193
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 3: I'm extra.

1194
00:54:58,360 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 2: Yes, great to talk to you.

1195
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 3: Good to talk to you too.

1196
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 5: Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production