1 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on eight 3 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland, presented by bally Bett Sportsbook, an official 4 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. Please bet responsibly. 5 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: So Live on a reaction Monday edition of Cleveland Brown's Daily. 7 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: A victory reaction Monday addition of Cleveland Brown I'm just 8 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: going to read you. I'm merely Bo, He's the great Z. 9 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: I'm just going to read you the first line of 10 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: the rundown that GiB A sent to us, the official 11 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: rundown of Cleveland Brown's Daily. The very first line reads 12 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: Brown's thirteen puker six and ain't it a beautiful thing? Brother? 13 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: And the one that he had for for that I've seen. 14 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,639 Speaker 3: He also had another line said good triumphs over evil, 15 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 3: which I got a big kick out of. 16 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 2: Beautiful. 17 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 4: I am so happy that all those people are miserable 18 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 4: and the sky is falling. There's nothing finer. Take your 19 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 4: per manny brother sandwich and shove it. 20 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: I agree, per bandy brother sucks. Anyway, you don't want 21 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: to eat their nachos. 22 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 5: Gibe. 23 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: He does like their nachos. I'm gonna be able to 24 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: do today. I'm gonna do Steelers nachos. I'm gonna do 25 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: it for you. I think I can do it. I 26 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: think I can do Steelers nachos. If everything I've been 27 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: told is true, I feel like I can replicate that 28 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: for you. Uh, anybody could, nearly anyone could. 29 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: Anybody if you have the ability to go buy a 30 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: pack a big bag of tostitos rounds, dump them into 31 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: a container of some sort. Then if you can buy 32 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: a bunch of I don't know if it's Tostito's, natcho, 33 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: she's tins, and dump them into a warming something solution, 34 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 3: you've a warming pan. You've done it, and then you 35 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 3: have some tostedo salsa I think, fresh from the jar, 36 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 3: also in another vat, and the nice touch they do 37 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 3: freshly chop some hollowpanias. But other than that, it's all 38 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: available from your local grocer. 39 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: You were there. You guys were both there. I was 40 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: watching on television. See you and I talk about this 41 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: a lot. And there are people who think big picture 42 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 2: stuff and they worry about draft positioning and all of that, 43 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: and roster building and all of that. But the thing 44 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: that we always say is walk down to that stadium 45 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: in December and go ask any Brown fan in there 46 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 2: what they want, and they'll all say they want to win. 47 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: And that one in a season where not much has 48 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: gone our way record wise, on the field wise, that 49 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: one yesterday was pretty sweet because not only did you 50 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: beat Pittsburgh, you deprive them of the AFC North for 51 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: another week at least, and now put a lot of 52 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: pressure on them at home. They came here for a coronation, 53 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: they went home with their tail between their legs. 54 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: And the Browns now in their last seven games at 55 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: home are one six and one, I'm sorry, six to 56 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: one and one against the Steelers. The Steelers are one 57 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 3: six and one in their last seven trips to Huntington Beanfield. 58 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: Kevin Sevanci's now won four straight at home over the 59 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers as well, So that obviously that is a 60 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 3: good thing. And you're right, it was sweet. It was 61 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: a good victory. It was one that everybody enjoyed that 62 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: was there. It was tense, It had everything you wanted 63 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: right there. It was not necessarily you wouldn't call it 64 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: a work of art for those people who stayed up 65 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 3: late on Sunday night and watched what was actually a 66 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 3: work of art in the Niners and the Bears, it 67 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: was not that. In fact, both teams, both teams in 68 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: that game in the first quarter scored significantly more points 69 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 3: each than were scored in the totality of our game. However, however, 70 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: this was a big win. And you know what, I'll 71 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: tell you this, I think the Ravens will beat the Steelers. 72 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: I haven't thought they were any good all year long 73 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: without DK Metcalf. They are down right now. I think 74 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 3: it's a combination of two things. One was no DK 75 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: Metcalf and two was their Miles Garrett obsession. And they 76 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: can say that, oh, this is what we this is 77 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 3: how we do all the time. Blowney fooey. But we'll 78 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: hear from the Hof on that later on, and he'll 79 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: have Hall of Fame takes that are educated more than ours, 80 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: which are just you know, I mean, we're a little 81 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: educated bees. We are that some are saying the biggest 82 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 3: people but can't say they're wrong. They without d they 83 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 3: got nothing on offense. And I think the Ravens are 84 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: going to do it, be able to do enough to 85 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: to to vanquish them. But you know, talking with their 86 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 3: their radio team and and just the way came in, 87 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: they were looking at that as a must win game. 88 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: They were looking at the game they like people. They 89 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: wanted to win that game very very badly. They did 90 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 3: not want, in any way, shape or form, this thing 91 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: to keep going on for them and have their season 92 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 3: now come hang in the balance on a Sunday night, 93 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 3: as it will in Pittsburgh. So that was one they 94 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: wanted to win and they did not. I thought that 95 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 3: the Browns had some really good moments. And again, you 96 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: know with Shador, it's like, can we just the tastes 97 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: of good and the improvement week to week is tantalizing. 98 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 5: He had a ball. He threw the ball to Tillman. 99 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 3: He had a ball to Jerry Judy against the cover two, 100 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: which is when we've been wanting him to just rip 101 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 3: kind of in that void over the linebacker and from 102 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 3: the safety that he did to Jerry Judy, you know, 103 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 3: let Harold fan and make a play on the touchdown, 104 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 3: which was a good throw as he was basically had 105 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 3: his right guard was pushed into his lap. There there 106 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 3: was a lot of good. There was obviously a horrible interception, 107 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: which certainly he knows, but the first interception not as fall. 108 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: He's had a lot of bad luck what I would 109 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 3: call inner options this season for a young quarterback. But again, 110 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: he is improving. Look at his completion percentage the last 111 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: two weeks. It's improving. I think there's a lot to 112 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: be encouraged by. We need to put it together, as 113 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 3: we talked about for sixty minutes on offense, you know, 114 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 3: and I think we had a chance to really bury 115 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: this team in this game. But once Fannin was out, 116 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: you can tell that he is such a big part 117 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 3: of what Chador wants to do on offense. 118 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 5: That had a big impact. But nonetheless, I was really pleased. 119 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 3: And this was a virtuoso defensive performance, honestly by the 120 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns. 121 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 5: A virtuoso performance. 122 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do that, and then circle back to the 123 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: Shadoor stuff, because you and I know you're going to 124 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: talk to the hoff about this, and I'm watching this 125 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: thing yesterday and I'm just thinking they care more about 126 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: making sure Miles doesn't get this record that they do winning. 127 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 2: And there's nothing that anybody over there, even including Ghibbey's boy, 128 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 2: Koboli can tell. 129 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 5: Me, bring me Kabali, get Kabali on the line. 130 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: There's nobody anybody over there can tell me that. Okay, 131 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 2: did they want to win the game? Of course, of course, 132 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: of course they wanted to win the game. They came 133 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: here for a coronation. To your point, they viewed it 134 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: as a must win. Yes, but their singular focus offensively 135 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: was to prevent Miles Garrett from getting the sack record 136 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: while winning. I think those two things are connected, but 137 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: the first one is in there a billion because I've 138 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: never seen, I have never seen a team go so 139 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: far out of its way to mitigate someone's impact and 140 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: in doing so, impact them perhaps even more than had 141 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: he just got the damn sack, because they were still 142 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: preoccupied with him, Like if you had just gotten the 143 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: sack in the first quarter, maybe they could have tried 144 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: to play like real football and not so be preoccupied 145 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: with it. But that's all they did the whole game 146 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: was try to find a way to minimize miles impact. 147 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: In doing so, he had maybe a bigger impact than 148 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: he just got the sack. 149 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 5: Brother. 150 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 3: His time to throw from a clean pocket, which was 151 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: seventy seven percent of the time, is time to throw 152 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: from a clean pocket was one point eight seven seconds. 153 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 3: One point eight seven seconds. You can't get home in 154 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 3: that time. And even his average time to throw on 155 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: the day was two point one seconds. It was the 156 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 3: fastest of the season for Aaron Rodgers. So even at 157 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: times where he needed to hold it and make some 158 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 3: big plays, he was not interested in doing it at all. 159 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,119 Speaker 3: He was willing to get rid of the football as quickly. 160 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: In fact, he was throwing some side hand underhand. He 161 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: didn't care, just get rid of the football and it 162 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: felt like he had a clock, and he wasn't concerned 163 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: with completing a lot of those passes. And in fact, 164 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: there was a great portion of this game before that 165 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 3: one to Friarmuth when he was able to get past Sweeshender, 166 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: who was a warrior playing on one leg right there, 167 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 3: to set up the field goal at the end of 168 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 3: the first half. He hadn't he hadn't completed a pass 169 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 3: over five yards in the air prior to that point. 170 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: So we're talking about a scheme where they were just 171 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 3: trying to just get rid of the football. And when 172 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 3: you're time to throw from a clean pocket is one 173 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 3: point eight seconds, you know, like out quickly is considered 174 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 3: two and a half. If your time to throw is 175 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: two and a half, that's fast. His was two point 176 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 3: one for the entire game. So just a a wild 177 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 3: game plan. And you know, again no dk metcalf I 178 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: would have to imagine had an impact on that on 179 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: some level, because without him they had nobody on the outside. 180 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: He was out, as was Calvin Austin, who technically is 181 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 3: their number two receiver. Roman Wilson, who is the guy 182 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 3: they had big hopes for, doesn't even see the field 183 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: in these circumstances. He's out there throwing the ball three 184 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 3: times with the game on the line, and Marquez Valdez 185 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 3: Scantling who had just joined the team a couple of 186 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: weeks ago, who he had not played within four years, 187 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: and he goes one on one against Denzel Ward three times, 188 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 3: three times, like he ran the insanity. 189 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: They clearly weren't on the same page, No on any 190 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: of them. 191 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: I don't know who he was throwing this last second, 192 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: last one. It looked like it was scanting. Could have 193 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 3: been Friarmuth was supposed to go out. 194 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 5: I don't know. 195 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 3: He was yelling in that direction at both of them, 196 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 3: it appeared, and he does a lot of yelling at people, 197 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 3: but it was hysterical to watch, like, come on, dude, 198 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: you're not even like I thought. He made one throw 199 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: where I was all day where I was like, oh, 200 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 3: that's Aaron Rodgers. Like he had one where Rayshawn Jenkins 201 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 3: had perfect coverage and he just put it just in 202 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: front of his hand and if it was too far wide, 203 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 3: it would have gone to delp it. But I was 204 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: thoroughly unimpressed with the Steelers, as I've been all season long. 205 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 3: And I know they're already underdogs on the road there 206 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 3: in Baltimore, as they should be. But that fan in Detroit, 207 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 3: if Baltimore gets in, that fan in Detroit should get 208 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 3: something from Bashati because that I think that I think 209 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 3: them with DK, I still think we beat them, but 210 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 3: I think it would have been a much more interesting exchange. 211 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: I think we would have probably had to score more 212 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: than ten points. 213 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 2: There's no doubt and there's no question that it's that 214 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: it's gonna impact. I can't believe it's a two game 215 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: suspension for him. I'm not crying for the Steelers, but 216 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 2: it kind of makes me neither. 217 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 3: It makes me think, like the leagues, it's like, we 218 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 3: let's get Steelers out of here to heck with them crazy. 219 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: We don't want them in crazy. That he's out two games. 220 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: I thought Tyson Campbell was unbelievable in this game. 221 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 3: He is unbelievable, is a gud and he is perfect, 222 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 3: perfect for what we do. Tyson Campbell now on the season, 223 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 3: he has been first of all sensational. 224 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 5: He is a great cover guy. 225 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 3: I think he's got eighteen passes defense now, he's top 226 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 3: three in the league in that category. And he has 227 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: over eighty tackles. So he plays the run too, and 228 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 3: he comes up and delivers pops to me and a 229 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: couple of tackles for loss. 230 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 5: In this game. 231 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 3: He is everything that they want in the idea. Now 232 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 3: that the Browns next year, you know, mj Emerson, hopefully 233 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: we'll be back. That you could get into situations where 234 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 3: maybe you can, you know, slide a Denzel inside from 235 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 3: time to time, or slide Campbell inside of the nickel 236 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: at times with him and run support the way he 237 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 3: plays the run. You know, we could our corner situation 238 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: could be outrageously good, very quickly. 239 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and you mentioned Swezinger just a warrior. I 240 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 2: can't believe. I cannot believe he didn't come off the 241 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: field play. 242 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 3: I mean, at some point we thought like he might 243 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: need to come off the field for to protect him 244 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: from him, you know, yes, because you're watching him and 245 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 3: he couldn't walk or run. And they got the one 246 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 3: play to Friarmouth where they saw that. But for the 247 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 3: most part then he's over there chasing guys down to 248 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 3: the sideline then get after after each play, and I'm 249 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 3: sure you've seen, you know, and it's just just like 250 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 3: this guy. You know, we knew the second we drafted him, 251 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: this guy was gonna be a fan favor. But when 252 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: you got a guy on this team in this beautiful town, 253 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 3: who you know, it says, I'm playing until you guys 254 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 3: have to carry me off the field, Like yes, inject 255 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 3: that into our veins. 256 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 5: We all love that very much. 257 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: Thank you. 258 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 3: Carson swestern or Defensive Rookie of the Year. Guy's in 259 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: absolute stud By the way, one little note, I've been 260 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: sitting up here flapping my gums thanks to an early 261 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: thing that was in the early NFL stats pack, which 262 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: was that the last time a team had the defensive 263 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: Player of the Year and the defensive Rookie the Year 264 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 3: was the same person as Lawrence Taylor. I've been saying 265 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 3: that over and over. Guess what showed up in the 266 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 3: stat pack this week. That's actually not true, really, it's 267 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 3: actually not true. It was ray Lewis and Terrell Suggs 268 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: of the Ravens did it in the early two two thousands, 269 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: so so in the eighties, Lawrence was both Lawrence was 270 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: both himself the same self. 271 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: Okay, so maybe that's where the which is pretty crazy. 272 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 3: But that was supposedly last time, and this was right 273 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: from them, so this came out of their sense. But 274 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 3: then maybe somebody found it was like, hey, actually that's 275 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 3: not right because ray Lewis and Suggs did it with 276 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: the Ravens, so this would be the third time that 277 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 3: it's ever happened. So I think that was two thousand 278 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: and three and two thousand and three. Sugs was the 279 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 3: ap defensive Rookie of the Year twelve sacks, six fours 280 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 3: fumbles a pick. Yeah, had a pretty good seasons there, 281 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 3: and ray Lewis was the defensive player of the Year. 282 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: Here's some did you see this staff from Benjamin Solac 283 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: of ESPN on miles from the Next Gen stats numbers, 284 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: I'll share them and you can react. 285 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 3: Is it is it about how many pass rush naps 286 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 3: he's had relative to. 287 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: This is a different one. So next Gen Stats had 288 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: Miles yesterday chipped on forty one percent of his pass 289 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: rush naps against the Steelers, which is the eighth highest 290 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 2: rate for an edge in a game this year, third 291 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 2: highest for Miles this year. But Garrett was not chipped 292 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: on twenty three pass rush snaps. The Steelers either ran 293 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: quick game or rolled away for Miles on seventeen of those. Yeah, 294 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: it was a total of six snaps where he was 295 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: allowed to play normally. And some of those six definitely 296 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: happened when they moved him over center, because you obviously 297 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: can't chip in there, so there'd be several of them 298 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: that went in there. I'm not sure how many times 299 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: he did that. I'm definitely two or three times. I 300 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: remember in the third fourth quarter they put him inside. 301 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: But I mean that tells you want to talk about preoccupation. 302 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: And look, he's the defensive player of the year, he's 303 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 2: the best defensive player in football. All of it is justified, 304 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: But that is how much Pittsburgh was preoccupied with Miles yesterday. 305 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 5: There's no doubt. 306 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 3: And they were one hundred, one hundred percent preoccupied, and 307 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: I think to their detriment as an offensive football team. 308 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 5: Honestly, as that game went on, I. 309 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: Mean, it was clear to me that if Rogers knew 310 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 3: he was going to get sacked by Miles Garrett, you 311 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 3: would have thrown the ball on the ground and taken 312 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 3: an intentional grounding Like he was, like, it's not happening. 313 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: Not even if if given the choice of I might 314 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: be able to make a play down the field with 315 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: another millisecond, or that millisecond could result in a decent 316 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: chance to get sacked by Miles. The ball's going in. 317 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 5: The dirt one hundred percent. 318 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: It wasn't one. 319 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 5: One hundred percent. 320 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not even not even a question, not even 321 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 3: a question. 322 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it did it did it cost him inevitably? 323 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: Who knows, but it certainly contributed to a thirteen to 324 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: six Browns win over the Steelers. Let's do the offensive 325 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: side of this and have the schudor Sanders conversation now, 326 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: because one thing that is abundantly clear is I want 327 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: to see more of it. Yeah, he's shown you enough 328 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: every week, and he's improving on things week to week, 329 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: like like you mentioned earlier, and like we've been talking about, 330 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: that's the biggest That to me is the biggest barometer 331 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: I have on a young quarterback is from week to week, 332 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: do you see things that were a problem becoming less 333 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: of a problem. And with him that I do. The 334 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: thing that is a little concerning is he will put 335 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: the ball in harm's way. There's a fearlessness that comes 336 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 2: with him, and he will put it in harms way. 337 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 2: You're right, the first interception shouldn't have been his, But 338 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: there's one that should have been that wasn't. Nick Herbig 339 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: dropped the one. 340 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: And I would have called that a fearlessness. I would 341 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 3: call that you can't be late to the sideline. That's like, 342 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: don't be there. 343 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 6: That. 344 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that wasn't like an arm arrogance. That was that 345 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: was poor process. Yeah, in my in my opinion. 346 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, So whatever, whether it's process or arm arrogance, however 347 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 2: you want to. He puts the ball in harm's way 348 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: more than you'd like, Yes, and that something that's the 349 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: that's the thing that how do you clean that up 350 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: over the course of here's the here's my answer to 351 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 2: my own question, how do you clean it up. I 352 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: don't know, but I'd like to see him get begive 353 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: an offseason to see what that looks like. 354 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I would say in this game, you know, 355 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: the first interception again not his fault, that is, he 356 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 3: gets blindside hit as he's thrown, the ball goes off 357 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 3: of Steeler's helmet, ends up getting intercepted. And that was 358 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: a very quick pressure. It's not like he held it 359 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 3: and he was slow in his process. The other one, 360 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, he has Judy right away on that 361 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 3: if he just kind of goes off because that play 362 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 3: action really worked, that kind of old school that looked 363 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 3: like the old school Colin Kaepernick play action where it 364 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 3: kind of goes like. 365 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 5: You know, and then he had Judy. 366 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 3: Judy was so wide open, but you got to just 367 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 3: understand you can't. This is the NFL, like if you 368 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: can't make that throw. And he knew it afterwards, and 369 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 3: obviously they showed you were watching the TV. They showed 370 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 3: Prime on TV with his cowboy hat in his in 371 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 3: his head and his hands being like, ah, but the 372 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 3: good throat like the throat to Tillman, incredible, He's gotten 373 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 3: so much better throwing over the middle. There was one 374 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 3: to Judy on a cover too, where they disguise pre 375 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: snap and he throws with anticipation over Malie Harrison in 376 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 3: front of Rams. He actually puts it on the back 377 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: shoulder of Judy so as not to throw him into Rams. 378 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 3: Incredible stuff. He's been great on third downs lately, I 379 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 3: mean in money downs. He is better with his legs 380 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 3: than I think anybody would have thought. He is crafty 381 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 3: in the pocket. He had one play where it looked 382 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 3: like they were gonna get him, and then he finds 383 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 3: Brendan Bates, you know, early in the game. And so 384 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 3: it's clear that they're able to get a good script 385 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 3: early and that he's dialed in on and so what 386 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 3: the next evolution is and we're seeing him start. Listen, 387 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 3: his two best completion percentage games have happened back to back, 388 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 3: sixty nine seventy four percent this week against It was, 389 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: by the way, not the easiest of conditions to throw 390 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 3: the football in. 391 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 5: No, and I know I'm with you. 392 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 3: What I want to see is him put it together 393 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 3: for sixty minutes, and we haven't quite seen that. But 394 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 3: you're seeing spurts, and you're seeing improv skills, you're seeing 395 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: an ability to put the ball right where his accuracy 396 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 3: his ball place him at times is so elite that 397 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 3: it's all the things you liked when you saw on tape, 398 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 3: all of them. 399 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 5: We've got to clean up. 400 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 3: Obviously, the giveaways you cannot live, you know, seven picks 401 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 3: and three games, you can't live that way in the 402 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 3: National Football League. But I do think there's enough good 403 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 3: that we've seen to give him an opportunity to say, 404 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 3: you know, we're gonna go into this next draft, and 405 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 3: we are going to and by the way, the wind 406 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 3: has kind of helped the winds. If that's what you wanted, 407 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: you shouldn't be upset about the draft thing at all, 408 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 3: because now you're in a position where it's you're in 409 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 3: a good spot for a wide receiver there with your 410 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 3: first pick and then a tackle later on, or vice versa, 411 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 3: whatever however that shakes out. I'm the belief of if 412 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 3: you can get Carnel Tate there, you take Carnel Tait 413 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 3: or Tyson the kid from Arizona State, take one of 414 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 3: those playmakers. 415 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 5: We need weapons. But you're now kind of in that spot. 416 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 3: Now you could say, Nathan, I if we hadn't won 417 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 3: and we picked second and we don't want the quarterback. 418 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 5: We believe in Strador. 419 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 3: We could have traded that back to five or six 420 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 3: and then gotten a one in twenty seven. I'm with you, 421 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 3: that would be great, but listen, that's not what happened. 422 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 3: And I'm happy for the guys that went out there 423 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 3: and played their butts off and gotta win. I'm happy 424 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 3: for Kevin Stefanski for all that he's put into this season. 425 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 5: That he got to win. 426 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 3: But I really do think and we don't know everything 427 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 3: that's going on, but as long as I'm seeing a 428 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 3: kid who's improving, and so that can come from two things, 429 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: coaching and then his own hard work to do it. 430 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 3: So I think that part of this equation is working 431 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 3: because I think you're seeing Shador Sanders improve and I 432 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 3: see I'm seeing a guy that is giving me bursts 433 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: and glimpses that, hey, if we give him every rep, 434 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 3: if we allow the game to slow down for me, 435 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: go and look at even Tyler Shuck. Okay, Tyler Shuck 436 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 3: when he started was not pretty. Tyler Shuck's playing darn 437 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 3: good football right now. And I think New Orleans is 438 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 3: very pleased with what's going on. 439 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 5: With Tyler shuck. 440 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 3: Give him that time because you're seeing improvement, there's no doubt. 441 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 5: And the high level. 442 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 3: Stuff is really high level, really high level, like it 443 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 3: passes the eye test. 444 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 2: Oh, there's no question. And I go back to you 445 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: did that comprehensive film study on him last year in 446 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 2: advance of the draft, before we got to the combine. 447 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 2: You looked at the quarterbacks, all of them, and especially 448 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: him and Cam obviously, and kind of dug in on 449 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 2: both of them. And I remember we did that show 450 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 2: last January, early February whenever. It was after you've done it, 451 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 2: and we were talking and I'd seen a lot of 452 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 2: him in college. I'd seen a lot of shittter in college. 453 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 2: And one of the things I remember you hitting on 454 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 2: and and I thought you articulated it so well, and 455 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 2: it's really not that difficult to articulate. He's damn tough, 456 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: and he doesn't panic in the pocket. 457 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 5: So tough. 458 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: He is calm, He hangs out, he stays in there, 459 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: he buys time. If you watched Colorado play the last 460 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 2: couple of years, the one thing that he did there 461 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 2: that he did early in his tenure here is he 462 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 2: would drift in the pocket because you could get away 463 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 2: with that in college, but he flipped that. He started 464 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 2: doing that early and when he first got in, after 465 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 2: Dylan got hurt in his first start, he was drifting. 466 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: That went away. Now he doesn't do that at all. 467 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 2: But what he does is he keeps his eyes downfield. 468 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: He is not fearful at all in terms of taking 469 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 2: a hit. Which down the road, that'll be something we 470 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: left to talk about. You want to get down. You 471 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: don't want to get hit the way that he got hit, 472 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: certainly by Cam Hayward, but at or Jalen Ramsey, but 473 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: also calm feet and calm eyes, poise. He hangs. There's 474 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: stuff all around him, but he keeps his eyes downfield 475 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 2: to make plays. He is it two or three times 476 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: a game, sometimes more, where the rush kind of goes 477 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 2: around him and he's hung, keeps his eyes downfield and 478 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: he finds somebody wide open on a redirective a route. 479 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: That's playmaking. Man. He did that all the time at Colorado, 480 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 2: and he's doing that here. And the cool thing about 481 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 2: what we've seen here over the last several starts is 482 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 2: the negative playmaking that he was making going backwards, he's eliminated. 483 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: He's not doing that anymore. Totally. 484 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 7: No. 485 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 5: And that's the thing, Like he is. 486 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 3: Unrecognizable from the player that played in that final preseason 487 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 3: game in against the Rams, and really even from the 488 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 3: kid who came in against the Ravens. Unrecognizable in terms 489 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 3: of what he is doing, his playmaking his poise. Now, 490 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 3: I do think that there's at times, you know, it's 491 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 3: kind of like that scene in Forgetting Sarah Marshall where 492 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 3: he's like, do less. I think at times his feet 493 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 3: are doing a little too less in the pocket. You 494 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: got to have some spring in them so that you 495 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 3: can still pop and step into those throws, because sometimes 496 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 3: he's almost so flat footed that then it's. 497 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 5: Just a arm whip. Like the one out late to 498 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 5: the side. He was still flat footed. 499 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 3: There just wasn't enough on that to try to get 500 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 3: it in front of her big. But no, I've seen 501 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 3: a lot of improvement. I'm very encouraged by that improvement. 502 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 3: And what is it gonna look like if this is 503 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 3: somebody who gets every single rep Like, look, the reality 504 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 3: of it was and we kind of were seeing good 505 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 3: things from him in training camp and then we got 506 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 3: at one point, I'm like, okay, Gabriel and Pickett were hurt. 507 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, he doesn't get first team reps. Now he's 508 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 3: on his counetition. Guess wait didn't, No, he was, he didn't. 509 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 3: He didn't get any of them. So we didn't get 510 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 3: any first team reps until he became the starter after 511 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 3: the Baltimore game. Yeah, and you've seen him get better 512 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: every week, and it's clear that he is a hard worker. 513 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 3: It's clear that he's able to take coaching and say, Okay, 514 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 3: I did this poorly. Now I'm gonna do focus. This 515 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 3: is gonna be my priority this week. And you've seen 516 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 3: it week after a week. Now we've got to take 517 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 3: care of the football. We cannot turn the football over 518 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 3: like he has the last few weeks. But again, I 519 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 3: think that's something that can be coached out of him. 520 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 3: Peyton Manning threw a ton of interceptions in his rookiear 521 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 3: and I'm not saying he's Peyton Manning. He wasn't drafted 522 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 3: like Peyton Manning. 523 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 5: None of that. Peyt Manning was a number one overall pick. 524 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 3: I'm just saying that I do think that there are 525 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 3: certain nuances and savvy that come with playing the game, 526 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 3: especially A lot of his picks have come from either 527 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 3: eyes with second level players or at the line tips 528 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 3: bad at balls, and that's something he's gonna have to 529 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 3: he's gonna be able to work on. But I'm very 530 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: encouraged by what I've seen there and so and I like, 531 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 3: really the way that we've started the last couple of games. 532 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 3: Now we've got to get through those kind of when 533 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 3: the other teams are making adjustments and counterpunching. That's where 534 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 3: we've kind of lulled out a little bit. But I 535 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 3: think there's a lot of good Wishitter Sanders, I really do. 536 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of good. This is a 537 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 3: game where he didn't throw a pick if they were 538 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 3: at this game and end up being no picks. A 539 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 3: great job by our defense not making us pay, you 540 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 3: know for those interceptions. You know, I think people are 541 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 3: talking about him every bit as much as the fact 542 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 3: that we won the game. And really people are looking 543 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 3: at as like the Steve des blew it well Steelers 544 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 3: came here and they may have blown it from a 545 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 3: game plan standpoint of what was actually the most important priority. 546 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 5: To them in that game. Yeah, and but the Browns 547 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 5: beat him. 548 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 3: The Browns beat him once once he threw that touch 549 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 3: on errold fan in the reality was that game was over. 550 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it sure was. And I think one thing 551 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 2: that that you you would know if you're in the building, 552 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 2: you'd know, if you're in that locker room, you'd know. 553 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 2: With the coaching staff. One thing that's become abundantly clear 554 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 2: to me over the course of this season with Shador 555 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: is he kind of just has one passion and it's football, 556 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 2: Like he really loves it. The amount of time he's 557 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 2: putting in extra him and Kevin have talked about that, 558 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 2: uh over in the press conference over the last couple 559 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: of weeks, the amount of time that he's put in 560 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: the job that he's done with Tommy. You mentioned that script. Dude, 561 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 2: that's two weeks in a row where the early stuff 562 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: is so crisp, like just we just we hadn't seen 563 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: that in a while and just just get like bing 564 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 2: bong bong, let's go down the field and go score, 565 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, we have this in the bag. 566 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: So you're right, that's the next part is that evolution 567 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 2: beyond that. But he deserves a ton of credit for 568 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 2: putting in the work because he has come so far 569 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 2: from from what he was in that Carolina game in 570 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 2: that last preseason game so far from the Baltimore game, 571 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 2: as you mentioned, and and now now gets that opportunity, 572 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 2: and he's he's made the organization give real thought to 573 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 2: what comes next here and and what the offseason looks like. 574 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 2: But as far as I'm concerned, you and I on 575 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: the same page on this, like I want to see more. 576 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 2: There's you go back to conversations you and I had 577 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: with with the hoff and Bernie was there early camp 578 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 2: in July when we were when we were out there 579 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: doing those and every day he'd make a throw and 580 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 2: you'd go, oh, he just has an ability to layer it, 581 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 2: especially everything deep and outside like down. He just sees 582 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 2: it really well and he layers it in there nicely. 583 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 2: And and now he's doing some of those other things too. 584 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 2: So obviously the defense wins the day, but his efficiency, 585 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: you'd love for the interceptions not to be there, but 586 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 2: his efficiency was was really the stuff of handle, being accurate, 587 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 2: taking care of the ball, and making enough throws to 588 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: make us want to see more. Do we have an 589 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: update on Harold? 590 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 4: We do not, so coach had no injury reports today. 591 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 4: He'll have more, hopefully on Wednesday, but nothing on any 592 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 4: of the guys, including swetnger fanin and I know Tevin 593 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 4: Jenkins went to the locker room he was being checked 594 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 4: for a concussion. Yeah, I feel like I'm missing another 595 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 4: player in there too somewhere, But you know, injury updates 596 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 4: as of now. 597 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: It snuck up on me. Certainly. You guys have the 598 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: sass in front of goal all the time because you 599 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: do the boards and all that z. But when they 600 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: when he went down with the injury and they flashed 601 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: up that he had seventy two receptions. 602 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was like seventy two receptions. 603 00:27:58,800 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 2: Cheez. 604 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, seven hundred yards now seven total touchdowns, six receiving 605 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 3: and one rushing. 606 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 5: He has been spectacular. 607 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 3: I mean he has more receptions than any rookie in 608 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 3: the history of the Cleveland Browns franchise. 609 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 610 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's been an incredible season for him and 611 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 2: and a lot of those guys. So look, it's it's 612 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 2: everything that you want. It's a home finale that ends 613 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: in a win. It happened before it got really cold. 614 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 2: It was it ra I couldn't tell on the TV. 615 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: It was wet, but was it rainy down there or 616 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 2: just kind of misty on and off. 617 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 5: I would say, second quarter. Yeah, then it started raining. 618 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,959 Speaker 4: It was like wrath of God for about fifteen minutes. Okay, 619 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 4: there was a ton of I mean we were soaked 620 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 4: walking into the stadium. 621 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: At eight am. Yeah, yeah, I mean just rained and 622 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 2: then crazy. 623 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 4: I mean it was coming down in sheets till about ten, 624 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 4: and then it brightened up the afternoon. I think the 625 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 4: sun even came out. 626 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 2: Did you see in the sky. What a miracle to 627 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 2: see it. It's funny because I mean, I get I've 628 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: dealt with all sorts of crazy weather in Montana, and 629 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: even stuff more extreme than what we've dealt with in 630 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: the last twenty four hours. I took Buddy out to 631 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: go to the bathroom before he went to bed last 632 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 2: night at like, I don't know, it's like quarter to eleven, 633 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: eleven o'clock and it was sixty three degrees yep when 634 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 2: I took him out. 635 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 4: And now this wasn't this morning I took I got 636 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 4: home last night, we took the dogs for a walk. 637 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 2: My wife like beautiful. 638 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, ugh, she goes fine, I'll do it myself, 639 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 4: and I'm like, okay, I know what that means. Yeah, 640 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 4: I'll take one this morning, Like the younger one looked 641 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 4: at me and she's like, I'll go if you go 642 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 4: out there and do that, I'm not gonna I'm not 643 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 4: going out here. 644 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 6: You what are you doing? 645 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 2: What is this? It's ridiculous. Sweet wind though, sweet win 646 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 2: for the Browns. Get a victory Monday out of all 647 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 2: of it, and especially when it comes at the loss 648 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: of the Pittsburgh Steelers, who now will have to play 649 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 2: a win and you're in losing. You are out game 650 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 2: next Sunday. We will get into that. There are actually 651 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 2: three massive games next weekend in week eighteen. As for 652 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 2: the rest of it, who knows who's going to show up, 653 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: because that was one of the themes this past week. 654 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you, dude. And the score started off 655 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 5: brutal for dude. We did it so nice, did rally. 656 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 3: But they started off well, We'll put it this way, 657 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 3: in the first six games that were played on our slate, 658 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 3: I was one in five and you were zero and six. 659 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 3: But a rally commenced after that of epic proportions. 660 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 2: God bless us, because Buddy, I was looking at that 661 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: on on and that's something we should get into a 662 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 2: little bit. 663 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 4: I was gonna say we did warn people we made 664 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 4: the picks of solid five days before before that we 665 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 4: actually played. 666 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 3: Well, you had those three Thursdays on Christmas that were 667 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 3: all like what's. 668 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: Garbage? 669 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 3: But you wouldn't have thought, no, that they would go 670 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 3: the way they did and they. 671 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be very curious to see if if the 672 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 2: numbers are released on those because I'm I mean, we 673 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: had you know, it's Christmas Day and and you're enjoying family, 674 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: Like I wasn't seeking it out, and I gotta tell 675 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: you something. 676 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 5: I didn't mean go finish, finish, finish fish. 677 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: I was just going to say, not only did I 678 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: did not see watch a single second of any any 679 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 2: NFL on Thursday, not one second. 680 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 3: So it was on in the background, but like I 681 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 3: was like, we don't need this, We don't need it 682 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: too much today, we don't need it. 683 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 5: I'm done with. No, I don't need the NFL on Christmas. 684 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 3: And if you're going to do it, like do one game, yes, 685 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,239 Speaker 3: one game, I'd be fine with, but I don't need 686 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 3: it all day long. In fact, I like to have 687 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 3: you know now that you know Luca's still young to 688 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 3: be like running down you know, in the morning and 689 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 3: be like, Sayana Santa, you know, since in the morning, 690 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 3: let's get it going now. 691 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 5: I'm not saying he was not up early. He is 692 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 5: up early, but he's not Demanni. 693 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 3: And then the older kids are like, we don't need 694 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 3: to start this until like ten thirty or eleven. 695 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 5: You know, let's just be reasonable here. 696 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 3: So you know, I want to do the presence, and 697 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 3: then I want to just kind of like hang out 698 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 3: and have a brunch and throw Christmas movies on in 699 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 3: the background. We're just like hanging out as a family, 700 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 3: like yeah, yeah, I don't need I don't need all 701 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 3: games going on. 702 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 7: No. 703 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 2: I think that's why the NBA is actually a little 704 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: better on Christmas because you don't have to want you 705 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 2: can just have it on in the background, like you 706 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 2: don't football. I feel like I got to lock in 707 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 2: if I'm gonna watch it basketball, I can just kind 708 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 2: of have it on. Guess So guess the time. What 709 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 2: time your spirit animal woke up Christmas morning? 710 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 3: I'm thinking like five thirty six, And then he was 711 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 3: sent back to bed and been like, say he's not 712 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 3: ready yet, four thirty. 713 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 6: I love it. 714 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 2: Shot out of a canny. 715 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 4: I would have taken gifts away. 716 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 5: So what how do you handle that? He's up but 717 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 5: nobody else is. 718 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: No, no, no, he's wide awake. Four thirty. Is it time? 719 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 2: Is it time? Is it time? No? No time, it's 720 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: not time. We can't do that, so we help. I said, 721 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 2: you got to get to six. You got to get 722 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: me to six o'clock. 723 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 6: Buddy. 724 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 2: When that when that says six, we can go. That's fine. 725 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 5: What about it. We're NBC and Beamsy on board with that. 726 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 2: Oh, they had to be. We had to wake them 727 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,479 Speaker 2: up like he was bouncing on beds, waking them up 728 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 2: at six, like go time. But he was shot out 729 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: of a cannon at four point thirty. 730 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 3: That's good as he should be, as he should be. 731 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 3: By the way, how's everything? 732 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 5: Uh? How's everything gone? With the uh out in California? 733 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 2: Way, I'm gonna be real honest with you. Don't care 734 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 2: too much about about you show their good fortune. 735 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 5: You send me a video that. 736 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 3: In In one video, there's losing down this a manufactured snowhill. 737 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 3: There's tobogganing, that's right. That's also on a golf course. 738 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 3: That's blue skies and palm trees. So it's like you 739 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 3: want to slide It's also you could slide down, hit 740 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 3: a shot and then walk off into the sun like 741 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 3: you could. 742 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: Literally sled and ski sledd and golf in the same 743 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 2: within fifty feet of each other. Yes, same place. Yeah, 744 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 2: I so, I said, all right, so let me just 745 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: get this straight. You leave me the day after Christmas. 746 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: I've got a torn meniscus. 747 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 3: I bet we're diagnosed? Now, are we diet we were 748 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 3: fully where we're at? Are we are we surgeon? Are 749 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 3: we surgery? 750 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 8: Well? 751 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 2: Me and doctor Meyer, we gotta have a chat about 752 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 2: what's the best process going forward. But yeah, so meniscus, covid, 753 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 2: I don't have it, but exposure to covid. 754 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 9: Uh? 755 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 2: You you leave me in the holidays, haven't the good times? 756 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 2: It rained NonStop, and then that turned to fifty mile 757 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 2: an hour wind that is so severe that the turnpike 758 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: will not allow vehicles over seven foot nine like tractor 759 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 2: trailers without with empty trailers cannot go on the turnpike. 760 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 2: Anything with two and three trailers cannot go on the 761 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 2: turnpike forbidden. That's what I'm walking. I'm snuggling with a dog. Okay, 762 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 2: that's how I spent my holiday. And you're sending me 763 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 2: videos of kids tobogganing on golf course driving ranges because 764 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 2: it's seventy two degrees. 765 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 3: Kind curious, yeah, kindly leave? How was how was uh? 766 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 3: The first ever big horn turtle? Next season received? 767 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 2: It's been a lot of hoodies tied tight, That's what 768 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 2: I've noticed. At all the pictures have hoodies tight tight. 769 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 2: I think he's probably in the clear by now. 770 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would think so. 771 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 2: I would think he's in the clear by Yeah. He 772 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 2: was a lot of quarter zips all the way, all 773 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 2: the way out. Yeah, it's a good look. Yeah, they go. 774 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 2: It's a little cold out here. The highs are only 775 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 2: like sixty eight. Kindly, kindly, Yeah, I talked to me. 776 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 4: When did they get out there? 777 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 2: Friday? 778 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 4: Oh god? 779 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 5: They left it day after Christmas? 780 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 2: I didn't know. Left me alone on an island. 781 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 3: Dude, you should be thriving, That's what I said. I said, Yeah, listen, 782 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 3: this is great freedom. Everybody says that, but yes, do 783 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 3: it in the summer, of course. Yeah, finally, you and 784 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 3: I will be we'll be teeing it up and we'll 785 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 3: have pool parties. 786 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,919 Speaker 4: Ladies have ladies weekend. They had an overnight last week. 787 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 4: I pulled out the video game system. I told you 788 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 4: what I did. I lived my best life. It was fair, 789 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 4: it was glorious. I was not pleased that they all 790 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 4: came back. Yeah, yeah, but the weather's been mtained them. 791 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 2: The weather's been so crazy and brutal that it's like, 792 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 2: you know, you don't want to go out. 793 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 6: In this No. 794 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 2: Watched a couple of movies. We Buddy Garrett and I did. 795 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 2: All right, all right, we will. We'll get you set 796 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 2: for some consequences this weekend. Continue to look back on 797 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,240 Speaker 2: a sweet win against the Steelers in the home finale. 798 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 2: We are off and running and listen to Cleveland Browns 799 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 2: Daily were presented by bally Bet, official sports betting part 800 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 2: near Cleveland Browns Please bet Responsibly on eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland. 801 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 10: The Browns had three to the left as debates motions 802 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 10: play fake tall in the pocket, launching a deep ball. 803 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 11: For Timan and he's got it centric down the sideline. 804 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 10: Then the Steelers territory ten at about pack the forty 805 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 10: four shut Clark with the tackle, big gain on the 806 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 10: first play of the second drive a forty two yards. 807 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN 808 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: Cleveland presented by bally Bet sports Book, an official sports 809 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. 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So four thirty Saturday, 818 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 2: they're going to go Carolina at Tampa Bay, and then 819 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 2: at eight o'clock it'll be Seattle at San Francisco. And 820 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 2: then Sunday night, of course, will be Baltimore at Pittsburgh 821 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 2: for the AFC North. Two of these are winning, you're 822 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 2: in losing. You are out Seattle and San Francisco for 823 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 2: the one seed in the NFC West. That's fun. 824 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the super Bowl is in San Francisco. So 825 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 3: the Gangsta in his post game presser was like, we 826 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 3: the opportunity to never leave the stadium again, which that's 827 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 3: never happened. There's never been a team the Rams won 828 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl in their own stadium, did in Tampa 829 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 3: during COVID, but they. 830 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 5: Weren't the one seed. 831 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 3: Oh god, they would be the one seed and they 832 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 3: would play every single playoff game in their stadium, including 833 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, if they were to make it that far. 834 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what rock party people, Oh it's Brock. 835 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 3: Perty's a study. No kittle in this game. Trent Williams 836 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,399 Speaker 3: goes out on the first play of the game. They're 837 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 3: running it all over the place. Party's making throws the 838 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,959 Speaker 3: walk off not walk off winner, but the game winner 839 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 3: is a thirty eight yard strike to Juan Jennings. They're 840 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 3: awesome to watch. They are so fun to watch. And 841 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 3: so but guess what, so Chicago, And let me tell 842 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 3: you something, Luther Burden and Colson Loveland. I gotta give 843 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 3: s some credit. Draft Way Flowers, I mean give his 844 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 3: Flowers drafted way too early in our in our fantasy 845 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 3: league because he was but year two and three value 846 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 3: might be very good. 847 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 5: But your one value took a while. 848 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 3: But those guys are studs and they haven't even had 849 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 3: a Doonza's been out but all of a sudden, you're 850 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 3: talking about a team that's gonna be able to go 851 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 3: out there with in eleven personnel Loveland at tight end, 852 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 3: DJ Moore a Doomsay and Luther Burden at receiver, Swift 853 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 3: and Menungai in the backfield, and Caleb Williams is a dude. 854 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 2: Yes he is, Yep, Yep, he is. 855 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's he's a dude. 856 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I mean. 857 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 7: That was. 858 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 2: That's that's why that job despite you know, their history 859 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 2: of lack of development at quarterback, which is probably the 860 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 2: best in the NFL at being the worst at developing 861 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 2: quarterback over the history of their franchise. It's I mean, 862 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 2: they don't really have anybody, but you looked at it. 863 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 5: They've never had a four thousand yard path, right. 864 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 2: But you look at the way that that job was 865 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 2: set up, and that's why that's the one that Ben 866 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 2: Johnson goes for because of everything. 867 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 3: They just said, one hundred per means two seventy in 868 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 3: the finale to get the four thousand. 869 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 2: Who do they play? They play well? And what are 870 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 2: are they playing for? Anything? 871 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 5: Ooh, Detroit, who's a bad defense? 872 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 3: No, I guarantee they're playing for that thought him that 873 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 3: sev Oh. 874 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, it could be. 875 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,439 Speaker 2: Amazing how San Francisco came out of nowhere to now 876 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 2: could be the one seed in the favorite to get 877 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: to the super Bowl. In the NFC, the favorite to 878 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl could inevitably be Guy's unbelievable. 879 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 5: He really unbelievable. 880 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 2: Uh, the four thirty game will have a great deal 881 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 2: of interest for me. Uh, Carolina at Tampa Bay, we 882 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 2: called it, Miami was gonna beat Tampa Bay. 883 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 7: They did. 884 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 2: I thought I thought maybe Carolina would beat Seattle, and 885 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 2: it looked like it was going to be frisky for 886 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 2: a while, but then not as as Seattle pulled away inevitably, 887 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,800 Speaker 2: So that one will be for the NFC South. 888 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Carolina beat them just two weeks ago. 889 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,919 Speaker 5: Or last the week the week before now, yeses weeks ago. 890 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'll be a bit. I mean the 891 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 3: pint you look at at the Bucks and they have 892 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 3: just fallen off of an absolute cliff. 893 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 2: Haven't They lost like seven of eight? 894 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll pull them up right now. By the way, 895 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 3: here's what the Niners last three games have been thirty seven, 896 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 3: forty eight, and forty two. They had three hundred yards 897 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 3: offense in the first half last week, they are just 898 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 3: they are unjugg real right now. As for Yeah, As 899 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 3: for Tampa, they have struggled and obviously their quarterback is 900 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 3: It's funny how long an NFL season can seem because 901 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,919 Speaker 3: after Week six he was like an MVP candidate. Yeah, 902 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 3: and since then he has It's it's not he's thrown 903 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 3: only ten picks on the season, but eight of them 904 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 3: have come in the last seven games, and that's been 905 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 3: part of their problem. And in that last game he 906 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 3: had what two picks and he lost and he lost 907 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 3: two fumbles, so four turnovers. But the Bucks are more 908 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 3: I think, probably a more talented. Listen, whoever it's like 909 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 3: wins this game has no chance of going anywhere in 910 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 3: the NFC. And whoever wins, I think the Ravens maybe 911 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 3: because Derrick Henry is still outrageous. And by the way, 912 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 3: their black jerseys over purple pants is one of the 913 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 3: most horrific looks in the NFL. 914 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 5: Like they have such good uniforms. To have that tars. 915 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 4: Winner baby by the way, like let's go yeahs is 916 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 4: like good he wants on this week? I know he 917 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 4: already he yes, he basically tackled me yes, earlier. 918 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,399 Speaker 3: When he wants when he wants to know when I'll 919 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 3: come find you, He'll come find you, give me, I'll 920 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 3: find you. Yes, good, he wants to come right now. 921 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 3: But Gibbel tell them, I'll say give me, I'll tell 922 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 3: I'll tell you give. 923 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,840 Speaker 2: So those are your three that have all of the 924 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 2: steaks in them. The early window and the afternoon window 925 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 2: on Sunday in terms of ultimate steaks will not have much, 926 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 2: but those three games will have a lot. 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Alex Right brings them down and it's 939 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 11: fourth down. 940 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: You're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN 941 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: Cleveland presented by Ballely Bet sports Book, an official sports 942 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 1: betting part or if you're Cleveland Browns, please bet responsibly. 943 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 2: And this month's Wind of the Local Business platform presented 944 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,399 Speaker 2: by Minuteman Association with Medical Mutual is Game Truck. Game 945 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 2: Truck makes your event in exciting, stress free success. They're 946 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 2: amazing entertainment options, party favors and certified game coaches deliver 947 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 2: excitement to your doorstep. Now time to head to the 948 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 2: podium presented by Vivid Seats. Vivid Seats perch your official 949 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 2: fan experience package today for the ultimate game Day. Here's 950 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 2: your head coach, Kevin Stefanski. 951 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 9: Okay, like we talked last night, really proud of those 952 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 9: guys in that football game to be in that fight 953 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,479 Speaker 9: for sixty minutes and come out on top. 954 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 6: Some really, really great efforts in that game. 955 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 9: Some guys stepping up into roles that they haven't played 956 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 9: at in previously, which I was really proud of those 957 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 9: guys as well. So need to build off of it, 958 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 9: you know, wanted to split that series with the Steelers 959 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 9: last week. We have an opportunity to split a series 960 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 9: with the Bengals this week, so that'll be our sole 961 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 9: focus with that. 962 00:44:58,600 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 6: I'll take any questions. 963 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 12: Hey, Kevin, you got any injury updates on Harold or 964 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 12: Why or even Carson. 965 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 6: Yeah. 966 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 9: Nothing, All are are rehabbing, all our progressing. Uh, can't 967 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:11,839 Speaker 9: rule anybody out just yet. 968 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 12: And then I saw your locker room speech, which is 969 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,919 Speaker 12: why were you so impressed with what Carson was able 970 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 12: to do fighting through that injury? 971 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 8: Yeah? 972 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 9: I just think, uh, you know, I watched it during 973 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 9: the game and making plays and and pushing himself and 974 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 9: trying to get loose in between series and that type 975 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 9: of thing, and uh, you know, just it's it's a 976 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 9: emblematic of the effort out there and and and you know, 977 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 9: I appreciate that, and I think it speaks well about him. 978 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 6: It speaks to his teammates as well. 979 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 8: He Kevin, I just wanted to ask you about Shudor 980 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,839 Speaker 8: and uh, you know, when you went back and watched, uh, 981 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 8: you know, watch the film, what was some of your 982 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 8: biggest takeaways as especially with some of the throws, like 983 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,280 Speaker 8: the the one pick that that you know back across 984 00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 8: the field and the throat to herbig that what herbig 985 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 8: nearly picked. 986 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think the big message for all players, and 987 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 9: definitely at the quarterback position, is to learn from every 988 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 9: single play. There are plays where you have to tip 989 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,879 Speaker 9: the cap to the defense and recognize you know, they're 990 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 9: in the right coverage or they made a play. There's 991 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 9: other times where you let it rip and you see 992 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 9: the right coverage and you're playing on time. 993 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 6: So I just think there's so much to learn from. 994 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,839 Speaker 9: Obviously, you know the two giveaways, we can learn from 995 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 9: both of those plays. They tipped the ball and got 996 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 9: lucky the first one. We can live to play another 997 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 9: down on the second one. And again just those are 998 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,359 Speaker 9: all plays where we have a young player that will 999 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 9: learn and get better from those plays. 1000 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 8: Also, you lose Harold early in the game. How much 1001 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 8: how much do you think that might have impacted Schudua 1002 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 8: a little bit? And you know, knowing that, you know, 1003 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 8: Harold's been such a consistent guy for him to target 1004 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 8: during during his time as starter. 1005 00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 9: Sure, obviously Harold's a big part of our off and 1006 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 9: definitely a player that should or trusts with the football. 1007 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 9: We trust all our guys that are out there, and 1008 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,800 Speaker 9: you know, we made adjustments through that game without having 1009 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 9: Harold for the majority of it, but there's definitely a 1010 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 9: comfort level with Harold and the quarterbacks. 1011 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 13: Yeah, Kevin, I was going to ask about Shaudor too, 1012 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 13: so just wondering where do you feel like he has 1013 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 13: shown the most growth since he first stepped on that 1014 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 13: field against the Ravens that day. 1015 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1016 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,879 Speaker 9: I wouldn't get into specifics, Mary Kay, other than to say, 1017 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,840 Speaker 9: you know, we work very hard in this building on 1018 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 9: player development at all positions, and for quarterbacks, like we've 1019 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 9: talked about all season long, there's always going to be 1020 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,919 Speaker 9: ups and downs and we just have to learn from 1021 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 9: each one of these opportunities. So I think yesterday was 1022 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 9: a great learning opportunity where there's some really really high, 1023 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 9: high level stuff out there. There's opportunities for a couple 1024 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 9: of the plays that we can do a little bit differently. 1025 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 6: But it's also, you know, an effort. 1026 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,320 Speaker 9: To go out there and beat a good football team 1027 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 9: at your place and get a win. And you know, 1028 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 9: you never want to lose sight of that With quarterbacks 1029 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 9: young and old, you know you want to put your 1030 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,359 Speaker 9: team in position to go win the game. 1031 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 13: And as he heads into this final start out of 1032 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 13: these seven games that he had is there one particular 1033 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,880 Speaker 13: swing thought that you're going to give him that he 1034 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,319 Speaker 13: needs to go out and show you, you know, in 1035 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 13: this final game that that might really elevate himself a 1036 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:31,359 Speaker 13: little bit. 1037 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:31,919 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1038 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,359 Speaker 9: I'm probably not good at giving swing thoughts. You don't 1039 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 9: want swing thoughts from me, Mary kay, But yeah, there's 1040 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 9: for him with when it comes to things that we're 1041 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 9: looking for him to improve upon. I think coach Musgrave 1042 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 9: coach rees do a great job with all all positions, 1043 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 9: but in this case, the quarterback position of we're looking 1044 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,319 Speaker 9: to improve upon this this week, and sometimes those are 1045 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 9: very specific individual type of things, whether it be footwork 1046 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 9: or ball placement on certain routes, opiration, want to be 1047 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,839 Speaker 9: better in this area, at the line of scrimmage, all 1048 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 9: those things. I think you get great development and progress 1049 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 9: when you're specific about what you're looking for. So that 1050 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 9: happens really every week for our players. 1051 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 14: Thank Kevin. When you think about coaching, you think about 1052 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 14: actions and o's play calling and all that. But what 1053 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 14: is the formula for getting these guys to keep playing 1054 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 14: it hard when you were three and twelve before yesterday? 1055 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, Jeff, it's just we keep the focus on what's 1056 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,879 Speaker 9: in front of us. I appreciate this group. Like I've 1057 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 9: told you, guys, they've done everything I've asked them to 1058 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 9: do going back to the spring. I know what the 1059 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 9: results are, but I also know how these guys have worked, 1060 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 9: and that's just what we're about. We're about putting the 1061 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,280 Speaker 9: work and then going and competing like crazy on Sundays. 1062 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 14: Is add some a skill as a coach that you 1063 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 14: learn as you progress through your tenure. 1064 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 9: Yeah, I would just I'd put it back Jeff on 1065 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 9: just having the right players in the locker room that 1066 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 9: understand how important this game is. 1067 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 15: Yeah, Hi, Kevin. 1068 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:07,680 Speaker 6: Two questions. 1069 00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,319 Speaker 15: The first, do you agree with Miles after watching the 1070 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 15: film that the Steelers were overly concerned with him setting 1071 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:15,840 Speaker 15: the sack record. 1072 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 9: I can't get into that specific, Tony. I would tell 1073 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 9: you Miles and his ability affects every opponent's game plan, 1074 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,920 Speaker 9: every single opponent that goes into the game. I promise you, 1075 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,320 Speaker 9: on Wednesday morning, they have a picture of Miles Garrett 1076 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 9: and they say we can't let this guy wreck the game. 1077 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 9: You know that's what every offense does. They call him 1078 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:39,240 Speaker 9: game wreckers. You identify the guys that make those disruptive plays. 1079 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 9: So he's the focal point of every offensive game plan going, 1080 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,879 Speaker 9: you know, from the beginning of time. 1081 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 15: And Kevin, after two frustrating seasons here, do you wish 1082 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,359 Speaker 15: to continue beyond the season as Browns coach. 1083 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, as you can imagine, my sole focus is on 1084 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 9: this game versus Cincinnati. But I also would tell you 1085 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,960 Speaker 9: I'm privileged to have this job, Kevin. 1086 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 16: Just following up on Tony, have there been discussions a 1087 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 16: past week or any indication on how things might shake 1088 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 16: out after it again next Sunday or Monday. 1089 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, I understand the question, Joe. I never get into 1090 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 9: those type of discussions. All I care about is finding 1091 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 9: a way to go want to know this week versus Bengals. 1092 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 16: Okay? And then just on this rookie group. I know 1093 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,799 Speaker 16: we've talked about him a ton but in terms of 1094 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 16: the group as a whole, what dy've accomplished, and because 1095 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 16: I think you guys are on track for rookies leading 1096 00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 16: and passing, receiving and rushing That's only happened one other 1097 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,399 Speaker 16: time in the Super Bowl era where rookies have done 1098 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 16: that on a team. Have you been around a group 1099 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 16: with the Vikings or other teams that have had an 1100 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,920 Speaker 16: effect on a team like. 1101 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 9: This, Yeah, I don't know that there's you know, you 1102 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 9: look around the league and look at different rookie classes, 1103 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,760 Speaker 9: and you know, I know that there's always special groups 1104 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 9: that get pointed out after the fact years from now. 1105 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,880 Speaker 9: My biggest thing, Joe, that I would tell you, is 1106 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,799 Speaker 9: just the way this group approaches the game. 1107 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 6: They don't approach it like rookies. 1108 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 9: This is not a group where I've had to be 1109 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 9: chasing them around the building to get them to do something, 1110 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:21,799 Speaker 9: or their focus is not where it needs to be. 1111 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 9: This is, forget how good of players they are. This 1112 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 9: is as diligent a group of workers that I've ever 1113 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,800 Speaker 9: been around. And I think that's a testament to these players. 1114 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,640 Speaker 9: I think it's a testament to Andrew and crew identifying 1115 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 9: these players. I think it's a testament to their coaches 1116 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 9: and how they developed them. But at the core of it, 1117 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,760 Speaker 9: this is a group that loves to work, loves to compete, 1118 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 9: loves to be out there with their teammates, and is 1119 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,319 Speaker 9: willing to do anything that they have to do or 1120 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,359 Speaker 9: anything that the team needs them to do in order 1121 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 9: to win. 1122 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,719 Speaker 16: Just one more following up off of that, was there 1123 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 16: a time like during rookie camp, mini camp or training camp. 1124 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 16: When you could tell this group would be as special 1125 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 16: as it. 1126 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:08,720 Speaker 9: Has been, Nothing comes to mind, Joe, But again it's 1127 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,440 Speaker 9: having been around different rookie classes. 1128 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,719 Speaker 6: There's not usually. 1129 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,320 Speaker 9: This level of maturity right away with this group, especially 1130 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 9: considering we had two guys when we draft him that 1131 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 9: we're twenty years old, and they just have not handled 1132 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,040 Speaker 9: themselves that way. 1133 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 17: Kevin, you mentioned the development of guys. I talked to 1134 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 17: Andre Schmidt last night and he said that, you know, 1135 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 17: he thinks he's come a long way in that development 1136 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,879 Speaker 17: and credited you and Bubba and the special teams unit. 1137 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 17: What have you seen from him? I've asked that before, 1138 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 17: but what have you seen from him from that week one, 1139 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 17: in those early season struggles and to now where he's 1140 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 17: been consistent for you in weather, in high pressure situations, 1141 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,600 Speaker 17: in long field goal attempts. How has that development really 1142 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,440 Speaker 17: taken shape over these past several weeks. 1143 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,399 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's been that's taken shape really over 1144 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 9: the long run than that. Even Cam just he had 1145 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 9: a really strong spring in summer and I know you're 1146 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 9: not playing games yet, but then this season he's been consistent. Obviously, 1147 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,440 Speaker 9: I know He's had a tough first game, like a 1148 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,920 Speaker 9: lot of young players do. But confidence comes from demonstrated ability, 1149 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 9: and I've seen it in practice. I've seen him what 1150 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 9: he's capable of. So my confidence in the player hasn't waivered. 1151 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,239 Speaker 9: Also recognizing that that's a hard job and you're not 1152 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 9: going to be perfect at that job. So when you 1153 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 9: have a young player that is committed to playing, to 1154 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 9: kicking well for your team, you understand there's gonna be 1155 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 9: ups and downs. But you also get to watch him work, 1156 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 9: you get to watch him in practice, and really that's 1157 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,400 Speaker 9: where the confidence comes from. 1158 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,840 Speaker 17: So many of the guys in the locker room yesterday 1159 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 17: kind of praised him for that development and for his 1160 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,399 Speaker 17: commitment to his process. And it feels like that's been 1161 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 17: maybe across the board in other positions too, through some 1162 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,759 Speaker 17: adversity and through struggles this season. What does it say 1163 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 17: about this locker room that, through all of this, that 1164 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 17: these guys are so supportive of each other, so vocally 1165 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 17: supportive and supportive, you know, and in their actions on 1166 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:09,879 Speaker 17: the field as well. 1167 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that's just a locker room cam that 1168 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:14,319 Speaker 9: cares about each other. 1169 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:15,319 Speaker 6: You know. 1170 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 9: We have we have a bunch of good teammates on 1171 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 9: this team. And sometimes you got to pick your teammates 1172 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 9: up off the ground. Sometimes you got to push your teammates. 1173 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 9: You got to be there in a bunch of different 1174 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,359 Speaker 9: ways to you know, get the best out of each other. 1175 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,600 Speaker 9: And that includes supporting your teammates when when you're going 1176 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 9: through something. And sometimes it's on the field, sometimes it's 1177 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:35,840 Speaker 9: off the field, but you got to be there for 1178 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 9: your teammates. 1179 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,439 Speaker 12: Hey, Kevin, another question on the interception to Jerry after 1180 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:41,800 Speaker 12: the game, he said, you know, he just wants to 1181 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 12: give his guys a chance, right, give me a chance 1182 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,439 Speaker 12: to make a play. So is it just a matter 1183 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,839 Speaker 12: of knowing when it's the right situation. 1184 00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 9: To do that without a doubt? And I think you 1185 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 9: know that's a big thing with playing the quarterback position. 1186 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,359 Speaker 9: There's going to be plays that are right on the 1187 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,920 Speaker 9: border of you know, you're trying to make a play. 1188 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,880 Speaker 9: You know you're trying, you don't want to press. But 1189 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 9: also there's some throws that you see in the NFL. 1190 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 9: I can think of a few, you know that I 1191 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 9: saw yesterday where that's a fine line between are you 1192 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 9: forcing that ball you're trying to make a play. 1193 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 6: So again, that's all to me. Those are all learning. 1194 00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,839 Speaker 9: Moments for Shador where there's gonna be times and there 1195 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 9: were times in that game where he made plays, you know, 1196 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:25,719 Speaker 9: off schedule, just understanding, you know, when it's time to live, 1197 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 9: to fight another day on a second down and get 1198 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 9: us to a third and manageable. 1199 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 6: Those are all to me plays. 1200 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 9: That just add up as you add more of these 1201 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 9: games to your repertoire than they add up in terms 1202 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:40,640 Speaker 9: of your decision making in total. 1203 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:41,720 Speaker 6: Okay, thanks you guys. 1204 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 2: A right there you go. Kevin Stefanski from the podium, 1205 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,600 Speaker 2: Brought to you by Vivid Seats perch your official fan 1206 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,160 Speaker 2: experience package today for the Ultimate game Day and Browns 1207 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 2: fans head to Vivid Seats to purpose VIP Lounge Experience packages. 1208 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,839 Speaker 2: Packages come with lower Bowl ticket parking, all inclusive food 1209 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,080 Speaker 2: and beverage, and the opportunity to watch players lead the 1210 00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 2: locker room through the tunnel access visit at seats dot 1211 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 2: com slash Browns. Of course, that would be for next season. 1212 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,319 Speaker 2: We'll get your great clips going to be great. We've 1213 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 2: got some scores to give you as well for tonight 1214 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 2: that's coming up next. You're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily 1215 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,319 Speaker 2: on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1216 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 11: Rogers. 1217 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 10: The throw fade right side, complan the bug, Denzil warn 1218 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 10: of a coverage play your guitar pro Bowler Browns thirteen 1219 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 10: to six. 1220 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,320 Speaker 11: They're taking over on town. Can't pay, can't pay a lee. 1221 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN 1222 00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: Cleveland presented by bally Bet Sportsbook, an official sports betting 1223 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 1: partner of your Cleveland Browns. Please bet responsibly. 1224 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 2: The car trucker, motorcycle acts and conju injury. Call the 1225 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 2: injury Lawyers at one eight hundred elk Ohio for a 1226 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 2: free case from you. Elkin Elx, proud partner of your 1227 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. Time for the great clips. It's going to 1228 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,439 Speaker 2: be great call of the game. Let's have a listen. 1229 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,439 Speaker 10: Five to twenty remaining. First order Browns driving Steeler twenty 1230 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,200 Speaker 10: nine yard line, second and nine. The roup freet and 1231 00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 10: I'm thinking out of the shotgun. Should order throw looking 1232 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 10: right past the ball, lofting right. He's got fannin who 1233 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 10: catches at the two and rolls in touchdown. 1234 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 11: Oh what a catch. 1235 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,840 Speaker 10: Harold Fannon looked up bounded in the rain, landed on 1236 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,440 Speaker 10: his back and rolled untouched into. 1237 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 2: The end zone. 1238 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 5: That is what you've got to do sometimes. 1239 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 3: Harold Fannon looks to be a little shaken up after this, 1240 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,439 Speaker 3: but you get one on one out there, you're number 1241 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,800 Speaker 3: one receiver. Harold Fannon finds the ball, comes back to 1242 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 3: it into the end zone for his seventh total touchdown 1243 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,920 Speaker 3: this season. What a start for Shador Sanders want to 1244 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:43,720 Speaker 3: start for Harold fannin as well. 1245 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 5: What a rookie season for him? 1246 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,760 Speaker 3: For Shador, now, that's gonna put him at five of 1247 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 3: seven for one hundred and one yards and a touchdown. 1248 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,560 Speaker 5: Incredible start for the Brown. 1249 00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,720 Speaker 2: All right, we've got a Monday night or tonight kids, 1250 00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 2: you got it. 1251 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 4: Ram it on the road in the atl to take 1252 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,760 Speaker 4: on the gutlass Falcons quickly's the girl? 1253 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,880 Speaker 3: So are the Rams just kind of like locked into 1254 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 3: what they're locked into at this point? I don't know, 1255 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,920 Speaker 3: because the Niner Seahawks is for the one seed, so 1256 00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 3: I don't know if they are I'm not sure if 1257 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:15,840 Speaker 3: if they can be the five or the six. I'm 1258 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 3: not sure where they are on that. I'm gonna sound 1259 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 3: like they they have to go. They have to go 1260 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,360 Speaker 3: on the road, no matter what, they're gonna have to 1261 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,760 Speaker 3: do that. Yeah, I'll take I think the Falcons have enough, 1262 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 3: especially London beije on. I think this is gonna be 1263 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 3: a good fun one and they'll get in there. Maybe 1264 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:30,400 Speaker 3: at the back door. 1265 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 5: Oh it's Uncle kirk. Oh, what's up, Uncle Kirko at 1266 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 5: the back door there, Rams. 1267 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:38,520 Speaker 3: Will win Comfortable, comfortable, comfortable, forty one to thirty four. 1268 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,400 Speaker 2: Good job out of you. We've got the Joe Thomas 1269 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 2: Half Hour of the program coming up. Yes, you listen 1270 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:46,960 Speaker 2: daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1271 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,280 Speaker 1: You're listening to Cleveland Browns daily on eight to fifty 1272 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,920 Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland, presented by Ballely Bett Sportsbook, an official sports 1273 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 1: betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. Please he's been responsibly. 1274 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:07,680 Speaker 3: Oh kids, it is time for a victory. Monday edition 1275 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,520 Speaker 3: of the Joe Thomas Half half Hour coming to us. 1276 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 3: The Hofstrian. Look at him decked out in the local garbs. 1277 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,400 Speaker 3: He's in the mountains the Alps of Austria skiing with 1278 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:20,200 Speaker 3: his family. 1279 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 5: A beautiful thing. 1280 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:25,200 Speaker 3: You look fantastic, by the way the pictures look style, 1281 01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,120 Speaker 3: looks like you're on top of the world literally, which 1282 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 3: you are You're on top of the meat world, now 1283 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 3: you're on top of the skiing world. 1284 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 5: What's it been like, haf. 1285 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:37,120 Speaker 7: Oh man, We've had a fantastic week. It's been amazing weather. 1286 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 7: Like some of the locals are complaining, Oh, we don't 1287 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 7: have enough snow, and I'm like, well, it's forty five 1288 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 7: degrees in sunny and there's snow where I'm skiing, and 1289 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 7: that's all I care about. A fantastic time. I'm drinking 1290 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 7: delicious Austrian German Bavarian beer every evening, joining Schnitzel, Mit, 1291 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 7: Palmis and curry first and all the delicacies that Germany 1292 01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 7: and Austria have to offer. And the kids are having 1293 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,200 Speaker 7: a great time. Dad's tired by the end of the night. 1294 01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,720 Speaker 7: Kids are tired. Everybody's going to bed about eight o'clock. 1295 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 7: And the Browns smash the hated Squealers defeat Aaron Rodgers 1296 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 7: in our stadium, potentially Joel Botonio's last home game of 1297 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,400 Speaker 7: his career. It was a beautiful trip so far, a 1298 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,080 Speaker 7: beautiful game that I was able to enjoy, just like 1299 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 7: all the other amazing Browns fans throughout the world. And 1300 01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,400 Speaker 7: it's cool to be able to watch the same thing 1301 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 7: with so many people that you feel connected to. You know, 1302 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 7: I think back to you know sometimes when I'm on 1303 01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:35,160 Speaker 7: vacation talk to the kids. I'm like, hey, kids, go outside, Logan, 1304 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:36,760 Speaker 7: go look at the moon. I'm looking at that same 1305 01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,760 Speaker 7: moon you're looking at right for me. Yesterday, It's late 1306 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,560 Speaker 7: at night, I'm watching the Browns game, and I'm thinking, man, 1307 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,080 Speaker 7: I'm watching the same game that my guy, the great 1308 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 7: Nathan Ziguro the z is watching the same thing that 1309 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 7: Bo Bishop and Jason Gibbs and all my boys in Wisconsin. 1310 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,680 Speaker 7: Then I've converted to be Browns fans and all my 1311 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,919 Speaker 7: friends in Ohio, and it's just cool. It just brings 1312 01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 7: you together and there's a closeness in that community, just 1313 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,920 Speaker 7: knowing that you were in enjoying the same glory of 1314 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:06,280 Speaker 7: smashing the squealers on a game that you know, Hey, 1315 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,200 Speaker 7: didn't have a lot of meaning for the Browns in 1316 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,800 Speaker 7: the moment, but it felt like it meant so much 1317 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,800 Speaker 7: for so many different reasons. And excited to get into 1318 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,400 Speaker 7: it with you don't have to stay in my soapbox 1319 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:17,680 Speaker 7: here by opening Stanza. 1320 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 5: Now, first of all, it's beautiful. 1321 01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 3: Now you said, I think you I think you sent 1322 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 3: it out and I responded to you this morning on 1323 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 3: Instagram that you know this is you didn't really know 1324 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:27,920 Speaker 3: what you wanted for Christmas until you saw that picture 1325 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,160 Speaker 3: of Joel Buttonio coming off the field with his hand raising. 1326 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,200 Speaker 3: A lot of people said maybe it was that prime 1327 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,840 Speaker 3: rib that you got your family devoured, and even Grandma 1328 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:37,920 Speaker 3: Martini said was the best beef she's ever had in 1329 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 3: her life. The hot beef wag you prime rib, which 1330 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 3: was amazing, And thank you for the shout out there. 1331 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,880 Speaker 3: But when you see that with Joel Batonio, guy who 1332 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,840 Speaker 3: started his career next to you, and who has followed 1333 01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,800 Speaker 3: very much in your footsteps in terms of always there, 1334 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 3: always available for his teammates, able to play at a high, 1335 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,920 Speaker 3: high level for so long, and then you know what 1336 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,680 Speaker 3: that was like. You didn't get to have person a 1337 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,080 Speaker 3: walk out on your own terms. And perhaps he will 1338 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,320 Speaker 3: or perhaps he will play again next year, we don't know, 1339 01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,440 Speaker 3: But if that were to be the last time that 1340 01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,880 Speaker 3: he played in that stadium as a member of the 1341 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,840 Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns, why did that pitcher resonate with you so much? 1342 01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,440 Speaker 7: Joel's been one of my best friends since the moment 1343 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,720 Speaker 7: he got in the league. We still stay in constant 1344 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:25,080 Speaker 7: contact and obviously watching him play, watching his greatness, talking 1345 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:28,560 Speaker 7: to him this offseason about whether he should retire, whether 1346 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,400 Speaker 7: should come back, and obviously it's a difficult decision, you know, 1347 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,000 Speaker 7: and he decided to come back for this season. And 1348 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,520 Speaker 7: then for me just being able to watch how well 1349 01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,959 Speaker 7: he's playing and to get joy and knowing that he's 1350 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,520 Speaker 7: just the same guy. Every day he shows up, he 1351 01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:47,200 Speaker 7: does his job. He's playing fantastic football, as the four 1352 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,000 Speaker 7: other linemen around him are all different than the guys 1353 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,960 Speaker 7: that started the season. Yeah, and just knowing how challenging 1354 01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,280 Speaker 7: that is to go through like a difficult year, especially 1355 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 7: just getting into his headspace. I know that he thought 1356 01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,400 Speaker 7: the season will be better, better than it has become, 1357 01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,000 Speaker 7: and I know that was part of the reason he 1358 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,240 Speaker 7: came back. He sort of believed in the season that 1359 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:10,120 Speaker 7: it could become something that was special. Obviously there's parts 1360 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 7: that are special, but from a win loss standpoint, it's 1361 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,840 Speaker 7: not like playoffs are on the line. And so watching 1362 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,800 Speaker 7: him play at that high level, just going about his business, 1363 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,320 Speaker 7: it's the amount of respect that I have for people 1364 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:25,120 Speaker 7: that are willing to just go about their business play 1365 01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,680 Speaker 7: at an extremely high level, not ruffle any feathers, not 1366 01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,880 Speaker 7: make it about him, but just doing your job. And 1367 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,720 Speaker 7: I have so much respect for that. And to be 1368 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 7: able to allow him to walk off that field, maybe 1369 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 7: maybe not his last time in a Cleveland Browns uniform, 1370 01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 7: and to be able to get that ovation from the crowd, 1371 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 7: to see that photo after the game, when I woke 1372 01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:48,520 Speaker 7: up in the morning of him just kind of pointing 1373 01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,320 Speaker 7: up and getting that love from the fans. You know, 1374 01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 7: it reminded me a little bit of one of the 1375 01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,240 Speaker 7: last times that I walked off the field and you'd 1376 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,640 Speaker 7: look up and it reminds you always of deep down 1377 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,640 Speaker 7: inside why you play this game, right, There's a lot 1378 01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 7: of reasons. Okay, you can always say, well, you play 1379 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 7: for the money, get paid a lot. You play because 1380 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:07,600 Speaker 7: you love the game. Of course, you love the game. 1381 01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 7: You play for your family, you play for your teammates. 1382 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 7: But the thing that drives you to be great in 1383 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:13,960 Speaker 7: a season like the Browns are having right now for 1384 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 7: a guy like Joel Botonia, where he's the only starter 1385 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 7: that's left on the offensive line, offense has been much maligned. 1386 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,440 Speaker 7: Defense has been great, offense not so good. The thing 1387 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,600 Speaker 7: that consistently gets him to go out there and play 1388 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,920 Speaker 7: at his best and to go about his business as 1389 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,600 Speaker 7: one of the best guards in NFL history. Are those 1390 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,200 Speaker 7: fans that you look up into the stands and for 1391 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,000 Speaker 7: a moment there, it brought me back to the emotions 1392 01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,480 Speaker 7: that I had when I played right, and I think 1393 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,680 Speaker 7: it was that and knowing how much I love that man, Joel, 1394 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 7: and how much he's done for this organization and for 1395 01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 7: the city and he continues to do. And just seeing 1396 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,520 Speaker 7: that love that comes back from those fans to what 1397 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,920 Speaker 7: he's done and what he's put in for a career. 1398 01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:54,640 Speaker 7: It was so special. I mean, it brought it here 1399 01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,280 Speaker 7: to my eye. Was the only one that was awake 1400 01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,120 Speaker 7: this morning when I woke up and was going through 1401 01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 7: some emails, you know, before where we got out on 1402 01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,959 Speaker 7: the slopes, and I was just sitting there just welling 1403 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 7: up with pride and with emotion, with joy that he 1404 01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,880 Speaker 7: was able to have that last moment at least for 1405 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,080 Speaker 7: this year. We don't have to get beyond just this game, 1406 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,480 Speaker 7: but just that of motion that I know that he 1407 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,560 Speaker 7: felt and how special it was where it was in 1408 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:20,400 Speaker 7: his mind, like yep, I made the right decision. I 1409 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,480 Speaker 7: came back. I laid it all on the line for 1410 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,120 Speaker 7: these fans, and even though maybe it didn't go exactly 1411 01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,920 Speaker 7: the way I thought like, having that respect that's mutual 1412 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,360 Speaker 7: between the greatest fan base and pro football and one 1413 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,280 Speaker 7: of the greatest guards that's ever played the game was 1414 01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:35,400 Speaker 7: just an incredible moment. 1415 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,240 Speaker 3: It was It was, it was a powerful moment. I 1416 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,320 Speaker 3: got a chance to interview Joel prior to the game, 1417 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,840 Speaker 3: and it was at the end of it. I think 1418 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,760 Speaker 3: we both had a little mist in the eyes, a 1419 01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,960 Speaker 3: little a little dusty in there, and I have a 1420 01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,160 Speaker 3: great deal of respect for him, as you well know. 1421 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,240 Speaker 5: And yeah, it's just it's wild to think about that. 1422 01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,080 Speaker 3: You know, he has been much like your seventy three 1423 01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,240 Speaker 3: with such a constant that seventy five has been such 1424 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,120 Speaker 3: a constant for the Browns, and he was, you know, 1425 01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,520 Speaker 3: a guy that I wasn't going to get to, you know, 1426 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,600 Speaker 3: your streak per se, but he was gonna He was close, 1427 01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,080 Speaker 3: which is a very admirable thing. Before he had the 1428 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:13,960 Speaker 3: scope and wasn't able to be ready against the Niners 1429 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,600 Speaker 3: coming out of that bye week back in twenty twenty three. 1430 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,880 Speaker 3: But it's just, yeah, those are some of those things, 1431 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:24,080 Speaker 3: you know, when you get into this game from your perspective, 1432 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,320 Speaker 3: this business from my perspective where I get to talk 1433 01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,200 Speaker 3: to you guys. You know, I remember twenty fourteen was 1434 01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 3: the first year that I did the draft with the Browns, 1435 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,880 Speaker 3: and Joel Bottonio was drafted in the year twenty fourteen. 1436 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,480 Speaker 3: So I was the first person, first interview he did 1437 01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:38,200 Speaker 3: when he was drafted in the second round that year. 1438 01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,160 Speaker 3: And so I've known him from then to now and 1439 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,560 Speaker 3: to see him now, he's a family man and you know, 1440 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,919 Speaker 3: all the things that he's gone through and the evolutions, 1441 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:47,720 Speaker 3: and to see, you know, somebody go from being a 1442 01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,280 Speaker 3: young kid from California who played at Nevada to what 1443 01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,880 Speaker 3: he is now is kind of just a stalwarts of 1444 01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,520 Speaker 3: this organization. And to think that that might be the 1445 01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,000 Speaker 3: last time we see that seventy five, you know, walk 1446 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:00,480 Speaker 3: off with the name of tone you on the back 1447 01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,800 Speaker 3: of that same It was an emotional. 1448 01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:08,080 Speaker 7: Thing, for sure. It was incredible, and you know, at 1449 01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,880 Speaker 7: the end of my career, I struggled with the losing. 1450 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,960 Speaker 7: It's been something I've talked about a lot, you know, Yeah, 1451 01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,280 Speaker 7: talking with the team therapists and things like that, and 1452 01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,800 Speaker 7: I think the one constant for me was like the 1453 01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:24,320 Speaker 7: greatness of the fans and that feeling of the respect 1454 01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,080 Speaker 7: that you're given for the job that has mostly gone 1455 01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,880 Speaker 7: unnoticed throughout the NFL, the job of alignment. You only 1456 01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:35,479 Speaker 7: notice them when something bad happens, right, And I think 1457 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,679 Speaker 7: for Joel to just feel that love, it was such 1458 01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,680 Speaker 7: a special moment, and I think it was such a 1459 01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:44,000 Speaker 7: great way for him to potentially finish his career. And 1460 01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,160 Speaker 7: I think it was emotional to me. And I don't 1461 01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:47,560 Speaker 7: you know, you never want to make it about you, 1462 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,799 Speaker 7: but that's the connection that you have with a certain player. 1463 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,360 Speaker 7: That's the connection that I think even fans that don't 1464 01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,400 Speaker 7: know Joel feel like they know him right because he's 1465 01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,760 Speaker 7: been such a man of the community. He's been such 1466 01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,360 Speaker 7: a vocal leader on this He's been such a steadying 1467 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,720 Speaker 7: force through the good times in the bad during his 1468 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:07,280 Speaker 7: career and just for me personally to know, like what 1469 01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,280 Speaker 7: it is like to play football your whole life. I 1470 01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,639 Speaker 7: don't know if Joel's thirty five or so thirty six 1471 01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:16,640 Speaker 7: maybe somewhere in there, and his entire identity of his 1472 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,800 Speaker 7: life since he started playing, probably in middle school until now, 1473 01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 7: has been as a football player and knowing like what 1474 01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,240 Speaker 7: that transition is like, going from all, right, I've identified 1475 01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,080 Speaker 7: as a football player to now I'm not anymore and 1476 01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:28,960 Speaker 7: people just see me as a guy who used to 1477 01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,880 Speaker 7: play football like that. That's a hard thing to go through, 1478 01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,519 Speaker 7: that transition from that identity, and so for me, it 1479 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 7: was just really happy to know that, like whenever that 1480 01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:40,760 Speaker 7: transition happens, where he goes from I'm a football player, 1481 01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,519 Speaker 7: I'm an NFL player, I'm a Cleveland Brown right to 1482 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,439 Speaker 7: I'm not anymore. Like to me, I will always remember 1483 01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,519 Speaker 7: that moment in that picture and that's why I posted 1484 01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,400 Speaker 7: it on my Instagram Joe Thomas seventy three with that 1485 01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,679 Speaker 7: legend because to me, that picture is like it's legendary. 1486 01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:59,320 Speaker 7: It's already burned in my memory of the identity of Joel, 1487 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:04,600 Speaker 7: this grizzled, tough, hard working guy that just molded himself 1488 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,960 Speaker 7: into being one of the greatest guards in NFL history 1489 01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:13,360 Speaker 7: by sheer will and intelligence and work ethic and as 1490 01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:17,000 Speaker 7: a guy who played offensive line. Like that's the type 1491 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,040 Speaker 7: of peak respect that I have for a player when 1492 01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,439 Speaker 7: they just do it out of their own sheer will 1493 01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,280 Speaker 7: and they stick with the franchise and that loyalty that 1494 01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,479 Speaker 7: he's had in Cleveland. It was just so special and 1495 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:29,920 Speaker 7: I just loved every second of it. 1496 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:36,960 Speaker 3: Do you remember his rookie season in Atlanta when we 1497 01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,800 Speaker 3: attempted a very long field goal I want to say 1498 01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:43,640 Speaker 3: at the end of the half, and I want it 1499 01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,680 Speaker 3: was a Devin Hester. In my mind, I've made it 1500 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,800 Speaker 3: into Devin Hester. But whoever it was that ran the 1501 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,960 Speaker 3: ball back for Joel Buttonio ran them down as a 1502 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,600 Speaker 3: guard on the kick team, he got the tackle that 1503 01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:57,000 Speaker 3: saved a touchdown, and I'm like, this guy is unbelievable. 1504 01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,080 Speaker 3: I mean, that's the kind of I know that has 1505 01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:00,960 Speaker 3: nothing to do with playing guard, but that's the kind 1506 01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,120 Speaker 3: of heart and as you said, the grit, the determination 1507 01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:07,040 Speaker 3: that very few possess. A lot of linemen would be like, ah, well, 1508 01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:08,519 Speaker 3: you know, we saw the guy in Denver a few 1509 01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:09,880 Speaker 3: years ago where he went and just dove at the 1510 01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:11,880 Speaker 3: air five yards behind the player, you know, and that 1511 01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:12,599 Speaker 3: was a good effort. 1512 01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,960 Speaker 5: But Joel actually went and made the tackle, which was nuts. 1513 01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:18,840 Speaker 7: It was great. And I think one of the things 1514 01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:20,640 Speaker 7: that he heard a lot about when Joel was a 1515 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,920 Speaker 7: young player and he was you know, the Browns are 1516 01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,000 Speaker 7: trying to introduce him to the fan base was about 1517 01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,360 Speaker 7: what a great athlete he is. Right, nobody thinks of 1518 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,200 Speaker 7: lineman as great athletes. But obviously, if you're a ligneman 1519 01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,439 Speaker 7: in the NFL, you probably were a great athlete and 1520 01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,560 Speaker 7: you still have some of that, you know, left in 1521 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,920 Speaker 7: maybe your left leg or something like that. But you know, 1522 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,719 Speaker 7: Joel was a great basketball player. 1523 01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:40,519 Speaker 3: When he was gonna say he probably thought in high 1524 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,320 Speaker 3: school you may have said I was known as a hoopsman. 1525 01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, Like he's a fantastic athlete. He's super fast and actually, 1526 01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,160 Speaker 7: you know, playing in Nevada, I remember when Ray Farmer 1527 01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,160 Speaker 7: drafted him, it was like, well he played tackle. We 1528 01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:53,600 Speaker 7: don't really know where he's gonna be, but he's a 1529 01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,200 Speaker 7: great athlete. He's a big guy, so he'll find a 1530 01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,720 Speaker 7: way because he's a hard worker, he's super smart, and 1531 01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,519 Speaker 7: that's what he's done. But he still is a great athlete. 1532 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,280 Speaker 7: And like thinking about the moment like you mentioned in 1533 01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,360 Speaker 7: Atlanta where we kicked that long field goal and all 1534 01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,920 Speaker 7: of us fatties, me and Alex Mack and Mitchell are 1535 01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,920 Speaker 7: like chasing after this guy. It's not a fair fight, right, 1536 01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,360 Speaker 7: He's got a one hundred yard field by fifty three 1537 01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,120 Speaker 7: and a third yards wide, and he's got nine fat 1538 01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,519 Speaker 7: guys and a couple kickers like chase it after him, right, 1539 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,920 Speaker 7: and Antonio chases him down. I mean, it just shows 1540 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,639 Speaker 7: the tremendous athlete in the will that that man has. 1541 01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,200 Speaker 7: And it's been such a fun ride. We're just watching 1542 01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,960 Speaker 7: him and just watching him develop from a guy that 1543 01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,000 Speaker 7: had no idea what he was doing playing guard when 1544 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,360 Speaker 7: he first started, but just he would not die. He would. 1545 01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,280 Speaker 7: He's the guy that just says, I'm going to figure 1546 01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,639 Speaker 7: this out, hell or high water, I'm gonna figure out 1547 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:47,519 Speaker 7: how to play this position. And he did, and he's 1548 01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,280 Speaker 7: played it as fine as anybody's ever played that position 1549 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:51,240 Speaker 7: for a very long time. 1550 01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,599 Speaker 5: Now, it's awesome. 1551 01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:56,759 Speaker 3: All right, Let's transition off of Joel Platonia to another 1552 01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,120 Speaker 3: bit of what we would call offensive line or maybe 1553 01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:03,360 Speaker 3: offensive in this one. Brown's win, as Gibe says here, 1554 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,320 Speaker 3: good triumphs over evil. We heard Miles Garrett's comments, I 1555 01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,719 Speaker 3: saw your tweet. I thought the exact same thing watching 1556 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,519 Speaker 3: the game that it felt to me at times the 1557 01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,559 Speaker 3: Steelers were much more focused on making sure Miles Garrett 1558 01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,120 Speaker 3: didn't sack Aaron Rodgers than they were about actually gaining 1559 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,519 Speaker 3: yards and putting points on the scoreboard. You are the 1560 01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:24,880 Speaker 3: hof Your opinion matter is a heck of a lot 1561 01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,200 Speaker 3: more than mine. What did you see from the way 1562 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,720 Speaker 3: that they not only blocked it, but the way they 1563 01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,320 Speaker 3: schemed it and really some of the decisions with the 1564 01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,000 Speaker 3: football that Aaron Rodgers made in that game. 1565 01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, I was so pissed watching that game because obviously, 1566 01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:40,559 Speaker 7: you know, you want to beat the squealers. Of course 1567 01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:45,880 Speaker 7: that's the big thing, right but long term, we want 1568 01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,120 Speaker 7: Miles Garrett to get that sack record. He deserves it. 1569 01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,560 Speaker 7: He's the best pass rusher in NFL history. And of 1570 01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,080 Speaker 7: course there's going to beat debate, as there always is 1571 01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,639 Speaker 7: with who's the greatest at this thing of all time. 1572 01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,840 Speaker 7: But I think in hindsight, when people go back when 1573 01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,679 Speaker 7: it's careers over, you know, and however many years, they're 1574 01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,439 Speaker 7: going to watch it and be like, dude, nobody's ever 1575 01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,400 Speaker 7: played this position like that, And what I would love 1576 01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,479 Speaker 7: for somebody to do. And I was thinking about it 1577 01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:12,360 Speaker 7: as I was showering after my achy ass got off 1578 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,320 Speaker 7: the slopes today after skiing for six hours trying to 1579 01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,280 Speaker 7: chase after my kids who are not little anymore and 1580 01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,560 Speaker 7: are very good at skiing, and they're very difficult to 1581 01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:24,800 Speaker 7: chase down the most fast, but yes fast. Thankfully the 1582 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,639 Speaker 7: replaced tip, thanks to the University Hospitals doctor Vous shout 1583 01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:32,880 Speaker 7: out survived and we made it. But I was with 1584 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:34,519 Speaker 7: the shower and I was like, you know what, because 1585 01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:37,000 Speaker 7: I saw some Steelers fan. Of course, you know, there's 1586 01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,880 Speaker 7: always good back and forth on Twitter the twittersphere between 1587 01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:43,200 Speaker 7: Browns fans and Steelers fans about you know, TJ Watt 1588 01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,160 Speaker 7: or Miles Garrett, and TJ's an amazing player, like love 1589 01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,680 Speaker 7: the guy Badger grew up like ten Miles for me, 1590 01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,679 Speaker 7: so I got nothing but love for him. But Miles 1591 01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,960 Speaker 7: is a much better pass rusher than him. Miles is 1592 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:58,320 Speaker 7: the greatest of all time, hands down. And watching that 1593 01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:05,240 Speaker 7: game and seeing that Aaron Rodgers was not waiting more 1594 01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:08,960 Speaker 7: than one point two seconds to throw the football on 1595 01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,479 Speaker 7: any play that they were throwing the entire game until 1596 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:16,640 Speaker 7: the very very end, and even then his eyes were 1597 01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,120 Speaker 7: on Miles the whole time. So I'm sure you saw 1598 01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:22,080 Speaker 7: it because you were calling it. But the very last 1599 01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,439 Speaker 7: I think it was the very last drive when Aaron 1600 01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,360 Speaker 7: was clearly needing to make a play. So it was 1601 01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,479 Speaker 7: the very first time he didn't just throw a sideline 1602 01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,200 Speaker 7: fade or a quick checkdown for four or five yards. 1603 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,599 Speaker 7: He was watching Miles because they put Miles on the inside, 1604 01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:36,800 Speaker 7: or maybe they put it on the edge, but they 1605 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,880 Speaker 7: stunted him. He was watching him the whole time and 1606 01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:42,760 Speaker 7: he backed up, and that's actually how we got a 1607 01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,000 Speaker 7: sack on that play. It was because Aaron was so 1608 01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,639 Speaker 7: worried about where Miles was and avoiding him. He wasn't 1609 01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:50,200 Speaker 7: even keeping his eyes down the field, and so it 1610 01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,519 Speaker 7: was pretty obvious that, yeah, they wanted to win the game, 1611 01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,240 Speaker 7: but first and foremost, they said, we only care about 1612 01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:01,720 Speaker 7: keeping Miles from the quarterback. We can avoid allowing him 1613 01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,719 Speaker 7: to get that sack. We feel like one it probably 1614 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:08,240 Speaker 7: gives us a good chance to win, but in the 1615 01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,479 Speaker 7: long and short game, we feel like we do not 1616 01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:13,680 Speaker 7: want Miles to set that record against us, with the 1617 01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:15,760 Speaker 7: history that we have with him, with all the things 1618 01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:19,040 Speaker 7: going into the rivalry between the two teams. They were like, hey, 1619 01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,360 Speaker 7: we'll win the game next week. We don't really care 1620 01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,240 Speaker 7: if we lose this one, and you know, it hurts 1621 01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:27,880 Speaker 7: our playoff hopes. Hurts our AFC North championship. But we 1622 01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,160 Speaker 7: are not allowing Miles to sack Aaron Rodgers. And so 1623 01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:35,000 Speaker 7: they doubled him or they chipped him, just got rid 1624 01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:38,559 Speaker 7: of it in an incredibly quick amount of time. And look, 1625 01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,400 Speaker 7: I don't blame him. I wouldn't want Miles to wreck 1626 01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:43,080 Speaker 7: the game either, but it went beyond just trying to 1627 01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,680 Speaker 7: win the game to we don't really care if it's 1628 01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,120 Speaker 7: an incomplete pass. We don't care if we have no 1629 01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,719 Speaker 7: opportunity to move the ball down the field and convert 1630 01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:54,600 Speaker 7: third downs. We are not allowing Miles to get that 1631 01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:55,920 Speaker 7: sack record against us. 1632 01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:58,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers in that 1633 01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,439 Speaker 3: game went three of fifteen on third down, three of fifteen. 1634 01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,000 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that I don't know if there's another 1635 01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,599 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers game in his career where he was three 1636 01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:08,200 Speaker 3: of fifteen on third down. And a lot of times 1637 01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:09,840 Speaker 3: it was just like yeah, he would even throw a 1638 01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:11,799 Speaker 3: kind of pitch it out like this, throw an underhang, 1639 01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,280 Speaker 3: just get We even said at one point during the broadcast, 1640 01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, you can tell he's looking at him and 1641 01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,120 Speaker 3: his clock. It was the fastest, his fastest time to 1642 01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,360 Speaker 3: throw of the season, Miles was double teamed or chipped. 1643 01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,960 Speaker 3: Double team I think got forty one percent of his 1644 01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,799 Speaker 3: of his rushes, and then he was chipped on basically 1645 01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:29,560 Speaker 3: all of them. They're only I think a handful in 1646 01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,680 Speaker 3: the entire game where they didn't where they just left 1647 01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:35,639 Speaker 3: him one on one. But I said he would take 1648 01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:37,720 Speaker 3: if he saw the corners eye that Miles was going 1649 01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:39,160 Speaker 3: to sack, and he would have just dirted it and 1650 01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:42,519 Speaker 3: taken intentional grounding rather than let that sack happen one 1651 01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:44,880 Speaker 3: hundred percent. And I do think it impacted their game plan, 1652 01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:45,840 Speaker 3: I really do it. 1653 01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:47,920 Speaker 7: Did it did? They had no ability to move the 1654 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,479 Speaker 7: ball down the field because they weren't trying to hold 1655 01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:55,040 Speaker 7: onto the ball with They gave a zero probability of 1656 01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:58,040 Speaker 7: Miles getting a sack on any of those plays because 1657 01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:01,320 Speaker 7: they were not calling any play, nor was Aaron Rodgers 1658 01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,559 Speaker 7: executing any plays that had him holding onto the football 1659 01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:06,439 Speaker 7: at all. And it was to the point where I 1660 01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,840 Speaker 7: was watching the game with the kids and Annie, and 1661 01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,400 Speaker 7: a couple of times on third down they lined up 1662 01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,880 Speaker 7: without any tight end in the hip next to the 1663 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,640 Speaker 7: tackle or any receiver in a position to chip, and 1664 01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,640 Speaker 7: I said, immediately go, they're either rolling out away, or 1665 01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:22,880 Speaker 7: they're handing it off, or they're throwing quick in the 1666 01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,840 Speaker 7: other direction. Because unless they line up somebody right there, 1667 01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,280 Speaker 7: they are not leaving Miles one on one with their 1668 01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:32,400 Speaker 7: tackle a single time in the entire game. And it's 1669 01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:34,479 Speaker 7: such an advantage for the defense. And that's something you 1670 01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,240 Speaker 7: don't see in the stats, is like when you have 1671 01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,360 Speaker 7: a player that's so dominant in an offense that's so 1672 01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:42,880 Speaker 7: worried about that person, they are completely limited. It becomes 1673 01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,519 Speaker 7: ten on eleven the entire game. And actually, when you 1674 01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:47,559 Speaker 7: consider the quarterback as the ball, so he's not really 1675 01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:51,040 Speaker 7: doing anything, it's nine on eleven, right, And so the 1676 01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:54,840 Speaker 7: force multiplayer that Miles is for the Browns defense is 1677 01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:59,240 Speaker 7: unlike probably anybody that I can ever remember watching. I 1678 01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,720 Speaker 7: think Aaron Donald may have been close where he was 1679 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,400 Speaker 7: dominant from the inside, but still I think I give 1680 01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:06,840 Speaker 7: the edge to Miles. And I think Reggie White it 1681 01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:08,960 Speaker 7: was at times watching him when I was a kid 1682 01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,840 Speaker 7: in Green Bay, but he wasn't as dominant all the 1683 01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,000 Speaker 7: time because they would still give him one on ones. 1684 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,400 Speaker 7: Miles is like they have two guys or three assigned 1685 01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:19,160 Speaker 7: to him on every every single play. 1686 01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,400 Speaker 3: When you have a guy like Miles, if you were 1687 01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:24,840 Speaker 3: playing left tackle, in your mindset was I'm not going 1688 01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:26,680 Speaker 3: to be that guy. You knew you were getting a 1689 01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:28,840 Speaker 3: chip as well when you see him in that wide 1690 01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,800 Speaker 3: of a wide nine, which we saw him in pretty 1691 01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:33,360 Speaker 3: much the whole game. Now, they did move him around. 1692 01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,080 Speaker 3: They moved him against the right tackle at a couple 1693 01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,400 Speaker 3: of times. They moved him on the interior a couple times, 1694 01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:38,280 Speaker 3: which certainly. 1695 01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,080 Speaker 5: Was good to see. But when you have a guy 1696 01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,080 Speaker 5: when you see him that far in the wide nine, 1697 01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:47,519 Speaker 5: what does that do for you as a tackle? Good 1698 01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:47,960 Speaker 5: and bad? 1699 01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:49,840 Speaker 3: Because there's obviously a reason that they do it from 1700 01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,040 Speaker 3: a strategy standpoint that benefits the defense as well and 1701 01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:52,800 Speaker 3: benefits Miles. 1702 01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:55,559 Speaker 7: Yeah. I think the biggest thing is if you've got 1703 01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:57,880 Speaker 7: a tackle who's not a super athlete, it makes him 1704 01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,400 Speaker 7: very nervous because now that guy is it's so far 1705 01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:02,760 Speaker 7: away that you know you've got to move a long 1706 01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:04,960 Speaker 7: way to be able to get to the spot where 1707 01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:06,640 Speaker 7: he's going to be rushing right, because it's just an 1708 01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:09,400 Speaker 7: angles game. When you're a tackle right quarterbacks, you know, 1709 01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:13,360 Speaker 7: seven to nine yards. The wider he is, the further 1710 01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:16,719 Speaker 7: that line is between the quarterback and the pass rusher. 1711 01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:19,920 Speaker 7: So the further you're gonna have to get back right, Obviously, 1712 01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:24,240 Speaker 7: the wider he gets, the less depth it increases. But 1713 01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:26,800 Speaker 7: still you know that you've got to move a long way. 1714 01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:31,320 Speaker 7: And on top of that, that guy's now seven eight 1715 01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,720 Speaker 7: nine steps into his rush before he makes contact with you, 1716 01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:38,320 Speaker 7: so he's gaining more momentum and more ground and more 1717 01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:41,360 Speaker 7: speed with every step that he makes. So now when 1718 01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,879 Speaker 7: you're starting to fight and you make that first contact 1719 01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:47,240 Speaker 7: with him, he's running a four five forty right, he's 1720 01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:51,120 Speaker 7: you know, eleven yards into his forty yard dash, so 1721 01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:54,760 Speaker 7: he's built up a ton of momentum and inertia. And 1722 01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,800 Speaker 7: Miles is pretty big and fast, pretty strong, and now 1723 01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:02,040 Speaker 7: you're moving really quickly. So when you think about like 1724 01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,120 Speaker 7: how heavy and stout am I as I'm running or 1725 01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,559 Speaker 7: backing up and kick sliding as fast as I can, 1726 01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,479 Speaker 7: you're a lot lighter. So you have to quickly transition 1727 01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:13,080 Speaker 7: from moving as quick as he can to putting your 1728 01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,200 Speaker 7: feet in the ground and anchoring in that spot and 1729 01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,680 Speaker 7: trying to take on a bull rush. Which was kind 1730 01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,439 Speaker 7: of funny because you know they tried to double Miles, 1731 01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,840 Speaker 7: but the entire game. He was basically unblocked. I didn't 1732 01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:25,600 Speaker 7: see a single time even with a chip and a 1733 01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,720 Speaker 7: double team where he was locked up. It was just 1734 01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:29,600 Speaker 7: a matter of Aaron Rodgers is just name trying to 1735 01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:32,759 Speaker 7: run around twenty two seconds? Yeah run, Yeah, Like they 1736 01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,800 Speaker 7: still didn't stop him from getting to the spot in 1737 01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,080 Speaker 7: number two seconds. So if this was one on one 1738 01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:40,920 Speaker 7: pass rush in training camp, he won forty one out 1739 01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,000 Speaker 7: of forty one reps or whatever it was how many 1740 01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:45,479 Speaker 7: times they threw because they didn't block him a single time, 1741 01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:46,599 Speaker 7: even with two and three guys. 1742 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:49,720 Speaker 5: It's it really is unbelievable. 1743 01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:51,760 Speaker 3: I think we all think as I sit here in 1744 01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:53,080 Speaker 3: our student I look out and there's a pitcher of 1745 01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:55,880 Speaker 3: Miles Garrett standing over Joe Burrow. I think that this 1746 01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:59,840 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow style lends itself much more to Miles Garrett 1747 01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:00,680 Speaker 3: being able to get home. 1748 01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:02,040 Speaker 5: And I think he will get that record. 1749 01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:03,600 Speaker 3: I think that I think it's a lock that he 1750 01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,439 Speaker 3: will get that record this week down in Cincinnati. But yeah, 1751 01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:08,800 Speaker 3: that was wild, and I appreciate your perspective on it 1752 01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,519 Speaker 3: because and really the Bills did the same thing too. 1753 01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,120 Speaker 3: The Bills either rolled Allen away from him, the entire 1754 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:16,000 Speaker 3: game or through quick game. It's like, we're just not 1755 01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,400 Speaker 3: gonna let this guy be a factor. It's one of 1756 01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,920 Speaker 3: the reasons why they're not even running the football in 1757 01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,080 Speaker 3: his direction very often, and he hasn't been able to 1758 01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,800 Speaker 3: really get as involved. But it's amazing the impact that 1759 01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,880 Speaker 3: he has on a game. Even when he didn't get 1760 01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,439 Speaker 3: the sack, he was the most important player on that 1761 01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:33,840 Speaker 3: field by far. 1762 01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:38,519 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was great to see, and I enjoyed the 1763 01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,519 Speaker 7: fact that we talked last week about, all right, what 1764 01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:46,639 Speaker 7: should they do to try to take Miles and move 1765 01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:50,040 Speaker 7: him away from where those double teams are, because you know, 1766 01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,599 Speaker 7: on offense you're stationary. You can move your tight ends, 1767 01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:54,519 Speaker 7: you can move your receivers to try to help. But 1768 01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,320 Speaker 7: I thought it was great that Jim Schwartz took Miles 1769 01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,280 Speaker 7: and they put him over the right tackle, they put 1770 01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:02,240 Speaker 7: him over the offensive guard. They stunted him a few 1771 01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,240 Speaker 7: different times. So you're trying to move him around a 1772 01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:07,920 Speaker 7: little bit to give yourself an ability to try to say, Okay, 1773 01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:09,960 Speaker 7: we know they're going to try to line up a 1774 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,680 Speaker 7: tight end or somebody in that hip pocket area of 1775 01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,080 Speaker 7: the tackle. Well, we don't want to just line them 1776 01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,640 Speaker 7: up in that same spot, because then we're kind of 1777 01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:19,960 Speaker 7: giving them what they expect. You move them around a 1778 01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:22,760 Speaker 7: little bit, you g have a few different opportunities to 1779 01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:24,639 Speaker 7: get Miles, maybe a one on one or at least 1780 01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,439 Speaker 7: give him an opportunity to split a double team. And 1781 01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:29,559 Speaker 7: so it was nice to see that. I know it's 1782 01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:31,720 Speaker 7: not in Jim Schwartz's playbook to go with like a 1783 01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:34,800 Speaker 7: three down and drop eight. He's a four down rush guy. 1784 01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,720 Speaker 7: But the only other thing that I could think that 1785 01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:41,040 Speaker 7: maybe would be effective in that situation is to just 1786 01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:45,080 Speaker 7: rush three and drop eight and have really tight underneath coverage. Now, 1787 01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:46,439 Speaker 7: I don't think the Bengals are going to play it 1788 01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:49,360 Speaker 7: like the Steelers did. Aaron Rodgers has thrown three and 1789 01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:52,880 Speaker 7: four yard passes or sideline fades the entire game, So 1790 01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:54,800 Speaker 7: it may be a little bit of a mood point 1791 01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,000 Speaker 7: to even talk about. But I think the only other 1792 01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,600 Speaker 7: thing that the Browns could have done is maybe just 1793 01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:03,160 Speaker 7: rush three, because Miles is gonna win anyway. Like, it's 1794 01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,840 Speaker 7: not like they're gonna stop them because they've got five 1795 01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:09,800 Speaker 7: and six blockers against our three defensive line. But if 1796 01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:11,880 Speaker 7: they would have maybe just blanketed a little bit more 1797 01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:14,599 Speaker 7: of the underneath zone coverage with a drop eight situation, 1798 01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:16,720 Speaker 7: especially as you get closer to the red zone where 1799 01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:20,600 Speaker 7: everything gets compressed in the secondary, they potentially could have 1800 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:24,040 Speaker 7: had a little bit better opportunity for Miles to get 1801 01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,760 Speaker 7: that sack and have some impact. But hey, we'll see. 1802 01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:29,479 Speaker 7: I think like you said, I think it's a great 1803 01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:33,000 Speaker 7: opportunity to go get that sack record against the Bengals. 1804 01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely, all right, let's get some game balls out here 1805 01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:39,439 Speaker 3: on a victory Monday. One on offense, one on defense, 1806 01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:40,439 Speaker 3: off start on offense. 1807 01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:45,040 Speaker 7: Oh, that's good. I gotta give it to Joel Botonio, right, 1808 01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:49,559 Speaker 7: the most solid performer on that offensive line all season long. 1809 01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,400 Speaker 7: Thinking of the last sixteen games, I can only remember 1810 01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:57,120 Speaker 7: maybe one or two plays where he got beat, which 1811 01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:00,479 Speaker 7: is an incredible statistic when you think about offensive line, Like, 1812 01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,280 Speaker 7: a great game for no lineman is if you great 1813 01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:04,559 Speaker 7: over ninety percent, which means you did your job more 1814 01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,800 Speaker 7: than ninety percent of the time. He's probably grating at 1815 01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,240 Speaker 7: like ninety eight percent for the season, which is it's 1816 01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:13,000 Speaker 7: all pro Hall of Fame level. And you know he's 1817 01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:14,560 Speaker 7: done it the right way his whole career, and he 1818 01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,360 Speaker 7: did it the right way again, going against Cam Hayward 1819 01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,360 Speaker 7: most of the game, locking him down, playing great opening 1820 01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:23,840 Speaker 7: up lanes in the run game, given our quarterback an 1821 01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:27,000 Speaker 7: opportunity to step up in the pocket and creating a 1822 01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:30,679 Speaker 7: clean space in front of him with a with firm protection. 1823 01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:32,599 Speaker 7: So I gotta give it to my guy, Joel. 1824 01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:34,240 Speaker 5: I love that. 1825 01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna give it to Harold Fan and I know 1826 01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,360 Speaker 3: that he got injured unfortunately early in this game, but 1827 01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,080 Speaker 3: he just what a find he has been in the 1828 01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:45,200 Speaker 3: third round leading receiver now seven total touchdowns on the year, 1829 01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:48,000 Speaker 3: over seventy catches, over seven hundred yards, more catches than 1830 01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:50,880 Speaker 3: any rookie in Brown's history. And you could tell that 1831 01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:52,960 Speaker 3: we missed him by the way as that game went on, 1832 01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,599 Speaker 3: because he has become Shor Sanders kind of go to guy, 1833 01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:57,560 Speaker 3: his blanket guy. And I thought you ever made a 1834 01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:59,559 Speaker 3: lot of good throws in this game as well. Seventeen 1835 01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:01,280 Speaker 3: to twenty three on the day. All right, let's talk 1836 01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:02,679 Speaker 3: about the game. Ball on defense. 1837 01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:09,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the Browns on defense did a great 1838 01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:12,240 Speaker 7: job obviously, And I got to give it to Tyson Campbell. 1839 01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:17,040 Speaker 7: He had a fantastic game and he's really come on 1840 01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:20,360 Speaker 7: strong as the season's worn't on. I think he's been 1841 01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,760 Speaker 7: a tremendous trade. Got to give the Browns a lot 1842 01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:29,759 Speaker 7: of credit for identifying the contract ability to trade Greg Newsom, 1843 01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:33,519 Speaker 7: get some draft choices, have some salary cap relief, and 1844 01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:35,880 Speaker 7: to get a cornerback that frankly probably fits maybe a 1845 01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:39,000 Speaker 7: little bit better for the Jim Schwartz system. He was 1846 01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:41,960 Speaker 7: big all game long. I know den at the great 1847 01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,840 Speaker 7: pass breakup at the end of the game, but you know, 1848 01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,840 Speaker 7: when you've got an all Pro on the other side 1849 01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:49,720 Speaker 7: with Denzel, your other corner is gonna get a little 1850 01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:53,160 Speaker 7: bit more attention. And Tyson has continued to play at 1851 01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:55,439 Speaker 7: a fantastic level, and I think the Browns have got 1852 01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,360 Speaker 7: to feel really really good about how they're sitting at 1853 01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:02,800 Speaker 7: the cornerback position. Having two amazing lockdown corners on the outside. 1854 01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:05,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, and mj Emerson coming back next year. That will 1855 01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:06,080 Speaker 5: be fun. 1856 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:08,200 Speaker 3: I'm on defense, I'm gonna give it to Carson swester 1857 01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:09,680 Speaker 3: or the guy played the game on one leg, and 1858 01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:11,800 Speaker 3: I know, as somebody who has gone out there at 1859 01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,599 Speaker 3: less than one hundred percent many many times at the position, 1860 01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:17,920 Speaker 3: he did not to take a snap off. Was just incredible, 1861 01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,280 Speaker 3: flying all over the field, still got double digit tackles. 1862 01:27:21,080 --> 01:27:24,280 Speaker 3: Incredible performance there all right. Time now for the Trench Report, 1863 01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:26,040 Speaker 3: brought to you by Big Fig the mattress made for 1864 01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:29,200 Speaker 3: more crafted in Cleveland, just like our Browns hof Alex 1865 01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:32,360 Speaker 3: right career year now, he's got five and a half sacks, 1866 01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:34,439 Speaker 3: He's got twelve tackles for a loss in this game 1867 01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:36,920 Speaker 3: of sack, two tackles for lost, two quarterback hits. The 1868 01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:40,040 Speaker 3: Browns extended him, they found their compliment to Miles Garrett. 1869 01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:41,400 Speaker 3: What have you seen from him as he's kind of 1870 01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:42,719 Speaker 3: developed here in his young career. 1871 01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:45,920 Speaker 7: He's been awesome, a huge part of the great season 1872 01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:48,800 Speaker 7: that Miles has had, obviously, because when you have that 1873 01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:51,599 Speaker 7: guy on the other side that's bringing consistent edge pressure, 1874 01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,640 Speaker 7: you don't give the quarterback the ability to escape or 1875 01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:56,760 Speaker 7: to move in the pocket to create a little bit 1876 01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:00,439 Speaker 7: of space when he is getting that pressure. So Alex 1877 01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:04,840 Speaker 7: has been fantastic. He's been great and consistent all season long, 1878 01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:07,599 Speaker 7: and I can't wait to continue to watch his development 1879 01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:12,760 Speaker 7: within this Jim Schwartz system because he is absolutely one 1880 01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:16,200 Speaker 7: of the better defensive linemen in the NFL, and certainly, 1881 01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:20,000 Speaker 7: in my opinion, the best defensive line in the entire NFL. 1882 01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,800 Speaker 7: It's so dominant all the way across the board going 1883 01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:26,759 Speaker 7: against defenses. I think about playing against like the Philadelphia Eagles. 1884 01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,439 Speaker 7: I can't remember what year it was, but when they 1885 01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:34,000 Speaker 7: had everybody, oh yes, long they had everybody forget or 1886 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:37,280 Speaker 7: they had the inside. The names have lost me after 1887 01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:41,240 Speaker 7: being gone for ten years from the NFL. But I mean, 1888 01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:43,799 Speaker 7: you go against the defensive line like that, you're scared 1889 01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,080 Speaker 7: because you know, like we got to get real lucky 1890 01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,360 Speaker 7: to get any yards. There's no way we're going to 1891 01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:51,120 Speaker 7: convert a third down unless we're just making some crazy 1892 01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:55,439 Speaker 7: sideline fade or like some circus catch down the sideline 1893 01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:58,040 Speaker 7: because we don't have the time. It doesn't matter if 1894 01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,240 Speaker 7: three or four guys do their job and you know, 1895 01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:04,519 Speaker 7: win an unexpected battle on that front, because one of 1896 01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:06,519 Speaker 7: those four dudes is gonna win. And when you have 1897 01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:08,680 Speaker 7: a guy like Alex right on the other side, like 1898 01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:12,040 Speaker 7: he just compliments Miles in such great fashion, like the 1899 01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:14,840 Speaker 7: rush and the coverage working together, it's a big reason 1900 01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:17,080 Speaker 7: why this has been one of the most dominant defenses 1901 01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:18,000 Speaker 7: in the NFL. 1902 01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:21,240 Speaker 3: No doubt about it, all, right, haf one word answers 1903 01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:25,480 Speaker 3: here predictions. We got three games that have big implications. 1904 01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,040 Speaker 3: Two of them are win or go homes. The other 1905 01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:31,040 Speaker 3: will determine the number one seed in the NFC. They 1906 01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:33,800 Speaker 3: are the three primetime games of the weekend. We're gonna 1907 01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:39,120 Speaker 3: start Carolina at Tampa Bay. Winner wins the NFC South loser, 1908 01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:40,679 Speaker 3: their season is over. 1909 01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:46,160 Speaker 7: I got Carolina. I know that it's been a crazy season. 1910 01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:48,840 Speaker 7: You know, Tampa was super hot to start, and Baker 1911 01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:51,800 Speaker 7: Mayfield was in the MVP conversation, probably one of the 1912 01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:54,799 Speaker 7: leaders in the clubhouse. But Carolina is coming on strong 1913 01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:58,160 Speaker 7: at the end, Tampa fading, and I feel really good 1914 01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:01,280 Speaker 7: about the Panthers winning that and walking away with the 1915 01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:05,639 Speaker 7: NFC South crown in unexpected fashion. Nobody would have picked 1916 01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:06,799 Speaker 7: them at the beginning of the season. 1917 01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:13,840 Speaker 3: No, absolutely insane, all right, Baltimore, Pittsburgh. In Pittsburgh, the 1918 01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:18,320 Speaker 3: winter winds, the AFC North. The loser goes on vacation, 1919 01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:19,799 Speaker 3: perhaps to Austria. 1920 01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,840 Speaker 7: Yes, they should. Austria is amazing. It's an under destination. 1921 01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:27,880 Speaker 7: I would definitely get out there and enjoy the slopes. 1922 01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:29,519 Speaker 7: Have you come in the summer and do some miking. 1923 01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:32,760 Speaker 5: Have you sought out the Arnold Swarzenegger is like birth home. 1924 01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:33,879 Speaker 5: It's like a museum. 1925 01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,519 Speaker 7: I have not, but I should because I love Austrian Donald. 1926 01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:41,080 Speaker 7: Oh amazing. Yeah, I'm gonna have to look that up. 1927 01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:43,720 Speaker 7: I know he was out here like you're a couple 1928 01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:45,400 Speaker 7: of years ago when I was living in Germany. He 1929 01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:47,920 Speaker 7: got arrested at like the airport in Munich or maybe 1930 01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,559 Speaker 7: in this brook because he had like a real expensive 1931 01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:53,519 Speaker 7: watch and like he didn't declare that customs. I can't 1932 01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:56,559 Speaker 7: imagine arresting Arnold because he didn't declare all these thousand 1933 01:30:56,560 --> 01:31:00,200 Speaker 7: dollars watch something believe like that. But yeah, I got 1934 01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:03,080 Speaker 7: to show you your friend Reese. Oh you were dancing. 1935 01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:06,920 Speaker 14: What I know. 1936 01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:10,960 Speaker 7: I'll be there in five minutes. So no, I haven't 1937 01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:11,639 Speaker 7: seen your iPad. 1938 01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:17,759 Speaker 5: Daddy's working. 1939 01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:19,960 Speaker 7: I'm on the radio. Leave me alone. 1940 01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:25,240 Speaker 5: So even Hall of Famers have these struggles, folks, even. 1941 01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:27,439 Speaker 7: Come on, kids, sleep you alone. 1942 01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:28,439 Speaker 11: I'm trying to work. 1943 01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:33,920 Speaker 7: Yes, Raven Steelers, Raven Steelers, thank you for getting me 1944 01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:36,720 Speaker 7: back on track. So I think Aaron Rodgers is not 1945 01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:39,719 Speaker 7: going to pull the I'm trying not to get sacked routine, 1946 01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,320 Speaker 7: and the Steelers are gonna pull it off. I still 1947 01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:44,599 Speaker 7: don't believe in the Ravens. I just feel like there's 1948 01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:47,880 Speaker 7: just too much wow Colonel Turmoil. I think that, yeah, 1949 01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,400 Speaker 7: they've been better at the end of the season, but 1950 01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:52,920 Speaker 7: I feel like the Steelers pull it off and Aaron 1951 01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:55,920 Speaker 7: Rodgers is able to get them over the top, win 1952 01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:59,040 Speaker 7: the division, get into the playoffs. They're gonna be cooking, 1953 01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:00,439 Speaker 7: all right. 1954 01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:03,880 Speaker 3: Who wins the NFC West and becomes the number one seed, 1955 01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:09,000 Speaker 3: the Niners or the Seahawks. The Niners red hot on offense. 1956 01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:14,000 Speaker 7: Love the Niners right now, finishing strong and typical Kyle 1957 01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:18,000 Speaker 7: Shanahan fashion. I just love what they're doing, playing their 1958 01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:19,479 Speaker 7: best ball down the stretch. 1959 01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:22,240 Speaker 5: Agreed, And I just when. 1960 01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:25,519 Speaker 7: You've got Sam Donald ack quarterback, I just don't ever 1961 01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:28,080 Speaker 7: really believe that you're gonna be able to do it 1962 01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:28,920 Speaker 7: in the big moments. 1963 01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:29,920 Speaker 5: You and gimme. 1964 01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:33,479 Speaker 3: I love it, ha, go enjoy Austria. Get my girl 1965 01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:36,760 Speaker 3: Reeser iPad. We love you, brother, Stay stafe on the 1966 01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:41,040 Speaker 3: slopes and enjoy bottoms up pros Zee. 1967 01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:43,720 Speaker 7: I appreciate the time, man, It's great to chat with you. 1968 01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:47,200 Speaker 7: So fun after a Brown's win, so fun. The beat 1969 01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:50,639 Speaker 7: from across the country and we will chat next week, 1970 01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:51,080 Speaker 7: my man. 1971 01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:54,120 Speaker 3: Yes, you have got it, Ladies and gentlemen, the Great 1972 01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:57,000 Speaker 3: Hof Joe Thomas live from Austria. That is his dedication 1973 01:32:57,080 --> 01:33:00,320 Speaker 3: to Cleveland Brown's Daily, the Cleveland Browns and you. That'll 1974 01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:02,799 Speaker 3: do it for our show coming up next to ESPN 1975 01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:05,599 Speaker 3: National Radio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1976 01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:09,360 Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of 1977 01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:12,640 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and eight fifty ESPN Cleveland