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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome to the Drive.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson. It's a Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: means the Steelers back on the practice field today, getting

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Speaker 1: ready to play the Bengals. And Matt, we talked to

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Speaker 1: a Ben Roethlisberger this morning. Uh, he says, he, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's hopes that he can. He's gonna do everything he

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Speaker 1: can to play. I expect him to play this week. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's gotta be some discomfort though. It'll be a pain

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Speaker 1: tolerance thing. Maybe they'll be able to numb it up

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Speaker 1: a little bit so it's not, you know, as painful

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Speaker 1: as possible. And he said, like he we asked like, hey,

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Speaker 1: do you know when it happened in the game, just

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Speaker 1: I know what happened early, but I couldn't tell you

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Speaker 1: exactly exact player. Once you get out there and there

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Speaker 1: the juices are lowing things. You know, you don't notice

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And and some of those things

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Speaker 1: can be gradual too, Like it's a strain and he's

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Speaker 1: straining a little more, and he's strained a little more,

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Speaker 1: and then you sit down like that, it kind of hurts,

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Speaker 1: and you know, yeah, you know, so, um, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: sound super serious. But you know, I'm also not the

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Speaker 1: one taking hits and throwing a big, heavy football too.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, there probably is a Discover

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Speaker 1: taking ten hits as he did on Sunday, right, right, right. Um.

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Speaker 1: I actually went out back and looked over the first

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Speaker 1: two games at his throws and what he has done

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Speaker 1: thus For they didn't attempt any passes over twenty yards

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Speaker 1: down the field in the first game. In the first game,

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Speaker 1: I do think there was one that was called back,

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Speaker 1: so at least there was a shot. Still, it's not many. Um.

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Speaker 1: Against the Raiders, he went deep down, went deep twenty

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Speaker 1: plush yards down the field eight times, completed two of

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Speaker 1: them for ninety three yards. Now you might say, well,

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Speaker 1: why do you keep doing it if you're not completing it.

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Speaker 1: Both the completions led to touchdowns. Oh yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: they need to generate big plays anyway they can. Um,

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Speaker 1: But both are all eight of those throws were once

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Speaker 1: again down the sidelines. Yeah, they're all the same areas.

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Speaker 1: It was two for five down the left side of

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Speaker 1: the line and over three down the right sideline, which

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Speaker 1: kind of carries over what we saw last year. Again

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Speaker 1: a lot of it. We know about the short passing game.

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Speaker 1: There's not much of an intermediate one, and the deep

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Speaker 1: shots are always go routes down the sidelines. I mean

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Speaker 1: people know this stuff now. Yea. I will say this, Um,

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Speaker 1: he's been better at the between between the ten and

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Speaker 1: twenty yard passes. He's been hit. He's been hitting those

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Speaker 1: and if you if you look at those, um, you

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Speaker 1: know he's nine a fifteen for a hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: two yards. That's a passer rating of one sixteen point five.

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Speaker 1: That's as highest passer rating on any of the on

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Speaker 1: any of the throws. You need more of those, and

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Speaker 1: they need to and they need to attack the field

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the field more. They've only hit

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Speaker 1: one pass play of more than twenty yards down the

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Speaker 1: field over the middle. That was the Friarmouth in week

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Speaker 1: in week one, and it was a nineteen yard passing

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Speaker 1: in Firemouth got the extra gain on it. Um that there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I really do believe that. I mean, um, Clay pulled

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Speaker 1: down the sidelines makes perfect sense. Maybe Washington down the

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Speaker 1: sidelines makes perfect sense. That doesn't mean they can't run

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Speaker 1: deep posts or cross leaders or things like that as well.

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Speaker 1: I really believe Johnson can attack all levels of the field. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, expert not the best in the league, but well, um,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna sit on you know, he's been largely

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Speaker 1: he's now, he's open. I mean, run a slugo with him,

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Speaker 1: just something more along those lines, juju. I think could

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Speaker 1: be instrumental in this because he's asked to do the

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Speaker 1: same things a lot, and they're nice little three yard gains,

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Speaker 1: that's an efficient little run off after the But him

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a little gimmicky, and you can't, you know,

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Speaker 1: time again. But when you're struggling exactly, I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you're becoming predictable, use that to your advantage. And you

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Speaker 1: And they both run well. They're both good after the

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Speaker 1: know some when they got plenty of dudes, that's not

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Speaker 1: the problem to be Yeah, I think that's the key

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Speaker 1: is getting nausea. Harris and pet Farm with more involved

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Speaker 1: in the passing game, and we did see that last week.

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger was nine for nine targeting those guys, so it

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Speaker 1: adds up. Yeah, you know, Harris caught all five of

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Speaker 1: his passes, including the twenty five yard touchdown. Cats that

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Speaker 1: should like set the bells and whistles off right there, like, wait,

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Speaker 1: we gotta match up on a linebacker. Threw him the

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Speaker 1: foot football. Actually I think it was a safety through

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Speaker 1: and scored. That's there all the time. I mean, safeties

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Speaker 1: are better cover guys for running backs than linebacker. Round

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Speaker 1: breaking news here, But he's gonna run over a lot

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Speaker 1: went on the air, we were watching some of this

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Speaker 1: Seahawks Titans game. Derrick Henry is not a good receiver.

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Speaker 1: He's not a runner. But if you get him on

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Speaker 1: doesn't even have to be open. I mean, it's an

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Speaker 1: mean Harris at full Speed's not the same as Derrick

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Speaker 1: Henry at full speed, but no one is. But still,

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Speaker 1: I mean easy throws to the flats and and then

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Speaker 1: Harris because he's capable. Yeah, for sure. UM Steelers practice

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Speaker 1: say Lane played a significant snaps on defense and has

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Speaker 1: been one of the absolute core special teamers, and he's

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Speaker 1: special team snap. So that's a bigger deal than people

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Speaker 1: might let on. Devin Bush full practice participants. T J.

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Speaker 1: Watt was limited today, so but he's out there. The

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Speaker 1: guys who did not practice, in addition to Roethlisberger and Johnson,

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Speaker 1: I'm of the belief positions I want to talk about.

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Speaker 1: But go ahead. If Deante Johnson doesn't play, it's not

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Speaker 1: the worst thing in the world, because you're taking a

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Speaker 1: toy away, almost a crutch, a crutch to a certain

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Speaker 1: degree heat which, like when we talked to roethlis I

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Speaker 1: don't think you're saying he's a bad player. I'm not

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Speaker 1: you know, getting some of the ball to some of

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Speaker 1: these guys as well. You know I haven't gotten the

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Speaker 1: that's my fault. Well, I'm like the Johnson has gotten

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Speaker 1: twenty two targets in the first two games. He gets

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Speaker 1: So if you take that away from him, first of all,

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Speaker 1: it forces them. Well the defense doesn't know then too, right,

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Speaker 1: He's not Jerry Rice, He's not dere Hopp. Maybe use

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Speaker 1: the two tight end package more often. Put Gentry out

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Speaker 1: Well that might get what five snaps as opposed to one?

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Because you just don't you know,

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Speaker 1: looking at this and you're going, well, I can't take

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Speaker 1: Chase Claypool off the field because he's our deep threat.

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Speaker 1: I can't take Deante the field because he's our target magnet.

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Speaker 1: Derek Watt into the game. Like I understand, Ebron is

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Speaker 1: not a great blocker for the tight end position. We

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Speaker 1: know that, but Harris, Ebron Friar moves Claypool, Juju as

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Speaker 1: catch the ball, they can all detach. You can go empty.

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Speaker 1: get a base package. You probably get up four or

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Speaker 1: three or Nickel. It worse, and Nickel Ebron's gonna exploit that,

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Speaker 1: your idea that maybe a lot of great inventions were

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Speaker 1: maybe you you know, you open up a new leaf

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Speaker 1: it's again, it's not a knock on him at all,

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Speaker 1: a little bit, just his style of play and that

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Speaker 1: he's such a target magnet and it's a very high

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Speaker 1: number of targets, I mean compared to the wrestle. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and it's not an accident and Ben trust somebody's good.

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Speaker 1: But I do like your idea of Hey, I mean,

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Speaker 1: five snaps. You know, things like that. They're just a

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Speaker 1: little bit different that the Bengals have never seen and

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Speaker 1: your opponents haven't seen. Yeah, you get a little less predictable,

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Speaker 1: all right? They just put Ebron and want in the huddle?

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Speaker 1: What do we want to do there? Do we want

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Speaker 1: to go nickel against that? Are we want to go?

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Speaker 1: You're probably gonna go base, probably fullback, can fullback in

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Speaker 1: the tight end. Come on the field, you're gonna go base, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, without question? Um My two questions off

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Speaker 1: in a third and long situation with just over two

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Speaker 1: first his first read was covered. He he runs for

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Speaker 1: the first down, Like, who doesn't know that's happening? Right?

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Speaker 1: How do you give that up you play against Lamar,

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Speaker 1: you know, like Lamar still does it too. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean we can sit here at the desk would be

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Speaker 1: like we knew that was coming, but we still have

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Speaker 1: getting on the ground and catch him, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he said, which makes those guys so dangerous. You still

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Speaker 1: got to honor your assignments. You can't just let your

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Speaker 1: receiver run free thinking he's gonna do that. I might

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Speaker 1: trust that more though, than against a rookie quarterback playing

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Speaker 1: his first NFL game, as opposed to allowing him to

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Speaker 1: just run for the first to break it back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals D is a little better and I through

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Speaker 1: two games. Yeah, it's it's held up pretty well. They're

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Speaker 1: not allowing a whole lot of points. Neither of those

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Speaker 1: offenses a jug or not. They're healthy, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: all the guys they signed last year are playing right now,

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Speaker 1: and so it's not a star studded D. But it's

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Speaker 1: not like it's been. I want to I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: interested to see how much the Steelers try to take

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Speaker 1: advantage of Mike Kilton like they know him more or

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Speaker 1: better than any other the Bengal player, even though they

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Speaker 1: play the Bengals twice a year, like they know. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's what we can exploit against Mike Kilton. And he's

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Speaker 1: not despite the I'm not throwing dirt on the guy. No,

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Speaker 1: it's not. I said this before. He said that when

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Speaker 1: he was when he was a Steeler. He's not great

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Speaker 1: in coverage. He's not great in cover, and he's little,

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Speaker 1: and those two things aren't changing. He's very little. He's

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Speaker 1: not the fastest guy in the world. He's a very interesting,

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Speaker 1: unique player that's very good near the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 1: super physical for his size. We know where a blitzer

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Speaker 1: he is. But I bet if Juju sitting here, he

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Speaker 1: might be like, man, I love Mike, he's the man,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna beat him one. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna outfit I'm gonna outphysical him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I wonder if you're if Juju

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Speaker 1: screaming and meetings right now, let me run go routes

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Speaker 1: out of the slot one wipes on me or you know,

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Speaker 1: in breaking routes where I can shield them. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: a big Jujuy and they are blitzing him like the

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Speaker 1: steeling Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, so you know, knowing

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Speaker 1: the Steelers should be able to read that better. You

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Speaker 1: said this in the most season. Yeah, in paraphrase what

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Speaker 1: you said, but you said some of the long lines

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Speaker 1: of Man, I'd really hate if they sign that guy

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Speaker 1: thinking he's an edge defender and not use what he

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Speaker 1: does well. But he's as like he's a cover slot cornerback.

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Speaker 1: That's not what he is. Right, They are utilizing his

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Speaker 1: skills well. But Roethlisberger has probably seen him walk up

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Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage a thousand times and he's

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Speaker 1: just catching this. The offensive line hasn't surprised, but seven

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Speaker 1: as and I also wonder, you know, we saw Hilton

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Speaker 1: get hurt last year, you know, one on one situation

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Speaker 1: where he was the first guy to hit cream Hunt

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Speaker 1: and that did not go well for him. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: the first one hit Harris a few times, I bet too. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's a handful and it's a pretty big physical group

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Speaker 1: of you know, receivers and ball carriers for the Steelers too. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, I'm kind of open to the

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Speaker 1: idea and part of it because the Raiders d ended

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Speaker 1: up being better than I thought that maybe this Bengals

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Speaker 1: D doesn't stink for the first time in five years.

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Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't have good big names, but they're

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Speaker 1: playing pretty well. Two weeks. We'll see. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's the Bears are very limited offensively, they are, and

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Speaker 1: their quarterback situations apparent. Um, but you know, I think

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Speaker 1: shutting down Minnesota and the Minnesota was had a tumultuous

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Speaker 1: preseason as well, and it wasn't their best day. No,

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Speaker 1: I didn't. Minnesota played a lot better than next week

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Speaker 1: against Arizona. Yeah, so we'll see. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: you know, the Steelers are at home. Um, maybe they're

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Speaker 1: their roster is gonna be somewhat limited. We'll see. I'm

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Speaker 1: not letting him off the hook. I mean, I expect

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Speaker 1: them to run the ball well in this game, and

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Speaker 1: if they don't, that's troublesome. Yeah. I mean, if they

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Speaker 1: don't take advantage of some of these matchups, it's troublesome. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't need seconds and nines anymore, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's you played three games together

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Speaker 1: now this even if I'm we're talking to the defense

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Speaker 1: up a little, it's not a great defense. You're at home,

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Speaker 1: you know each other. You're reasonably healthy on that side

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Speaker 1: of the ball. I expect you to move the football

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Speaker 1: and get first downs. That's not much that. There's also

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Speaker 1: this Roethlisberger over the course of his career, when he

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Speaker 1: has some kind of injury, usually goes out and throw

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Speaker 1: us for like three yards and three touchdown passes. And

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, he's He's had a little success against

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Speaker 1: the Ohio teams too over his career. Yeah, And the

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Speaker 1: Steelers have one ten of the last eleven. The one

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Speaker 1: was last year in Cincinnati were the win was wicked

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Speaker 1: in that game and so the Steelers just couldn't throw

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Speaker 1: the ball deep. The uh Angles sat on everything short.

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Speaker 1: That was finlay game that It was maybe the most

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Speaker 1: forgettable of the year, to be honest with you, speaking

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Speaker 1: of running quarterbacks, right, like all he did all they

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Speaker 1: could do and then some el squeaked that will win

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Speaker 1: that game. That was on my hardest losses of Swallow

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Speaker 1: last year. I was like, how did you lose that one? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure, but you're right about the conditions and you

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Speaker 1: know that type of thing. We're going to take a break.

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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson and I'm Dale Lally you're listening

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