1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Surveillance. Banks are a much better physician 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: now than they were before the crisis, much more capital, 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: and they're much more resilient. One of the more important 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: transmission mechanisms of monetary policy when rates get to very 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: low levels is actually through the exchange rate. But after 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: the people's think of China in the centil Bank of 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: China is going to do in terms of his mom 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: fit policy will have a big impact on market. Sploomberg 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: Surveillance your link to the world of economics, finance, and investment. 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: On Bloomberg Radio. Good morning, I'm Michael McKee along with 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: Tom Keene. It is seven am on Wall Street, seven 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: am in Washington, d C. Where Tom and I find 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: ourselves on this super Tuesday. By tonight we could know 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: who the Republican and Democratic presidential nominees are. At least 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: we could have a pretty good idea, and we're going 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: to be talking about that today on Surveillance, including Tom. 17 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: A fascinating interview with former fitcherman Alan Greens. Yeah, you're 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: getting a rate reviews. He was, as you said, correctly, 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: he was remarkably cautious on where this nation is going. 20 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: As we have this important electoral day. Well, we will 21 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: talk about that in just a moment. If there's concerned 22 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: among investors about who may represent the major parties here, 23 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't show in the markets this morning. US futures 24 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: significantly higher. SMP futures up by fourteen points right now, 25 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,279 Speaker 1: three quarters of a percent down, futures up seven tenths. 26 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: That's a hundred and ten points on that index, and 27 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: Nazaki Mini features up by thirty one points right now, 28 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: also three quarters of a percent. In Europe, stocks are higher, 29 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: the stocks six hundred up by three points nine tenths. 30 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: European at least, Eurozone employment higher than it has been 31 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: in four years, the unemployment rate lower than it has 32 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: been in four years. The foot Sea up forty two 33 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: points seven tenths of a percent, wiping out all of 34 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: its losses so far for the year. The docks a 35 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,279 Speaker 1: hundred and forty seven points higher one and a half 36 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 1: per cent. Bonds have churned, that's the word Tom loves 37 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: to say. But in the U has the curve little 38 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: change from where we were at this time yesterday. The 39 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: tenure note yield one point seven four percent, the five 40 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: year at one point to three percent, seventy nine basis 41 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: points year two year yield Germany, though lower yet again. 42 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: Right now the German two year trading at a negative 43 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: fifty seven basis points oil and this is important. West 44 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: Texas thirty four seventeen up, crisis over one percent. Brent 45 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: crude thirty seventy four up seventeen cents a half yea 46 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: crisis over Cherman greens fan about that, and he said, 47 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: you know, we are going to find a bottom at 48 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: some point, and that could have a significant impact. He 49 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: was actually pretty good as not you know, gaming it 50 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: like an oil strategist of suggesting, uh, we made me 51 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: near a bottom or finding a bid on oil from Washington. 52 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: This Super Tuesday Bloomberg Surveillance brought to you by Investo. 53 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: Factor based strategies can help investors focus on a high quality, 54 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: low volatility and more. Learn more at investco dot com 55 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: slash high Conviction. I did a Hubert Heaver with our 56 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: guests this morning. I said he was the President of 57 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: the White House, and I got it a little wronged. Well, 58 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: maybe someday his career aren't continuing career. So let's let's 59 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: have you bring in Hubert huber Heaver Ferman Jason, who 60 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: is the chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors, Chairman Greenspan, 61 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 1: as we were mentioning rather downbeat about the economy's prospects 62 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: with US overnight, Bill Dudley, the New York Fed President, 63 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: told an audience in China, quote, on balance, I am 64 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: somewhat less confident than I was before. Partly this reflects 65 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: my assessment that uncertainty to the outlook has increased and 66 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: downside risks have crept up. You are the chairman of 67 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: the Council of Economic Advisors. When the President wants to 68 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: know if Alan Greenspan and Bill Dudley are right, he 69 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: asks Jason Furman. So what does Jason Furman tell him 70 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: in that situation? You know, I think there's certainly um 71 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: a heightened set of risks in the U. S economy 72 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: right now, and that's because the United States isn't an island. 73 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: We're part of a global economy. You've seen the weakest 74 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: global growth last year that we've seen since two thousand nine, 75 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: China's growth slipping, Brazil, Russia, the emerging markets falling even more, 76 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: and that creates complications and uncertainty for US. My best 77 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: guess is that our domestic strengths are going to power 78 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: us through that uncertainty. The domestic strengths that brought brought 79 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: us the best two years of job growth since the nineties, 80 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: the steepest decline the unemployment rate since the eighties, the 81 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,559 Speaker 1: longest streak of private sector job growth. You know, ever, 82 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: we have optimistic consumers, they're getting raises. We have a 83 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: lot of potential in terms of residential investment, but you know, 84 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: the rest of the world is certainly going to be subtracting. 85 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: I want to know about the prison you use every 86 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: day as you advise the president and put together the 87 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: various documents that that is your responsibility. Is it in America? 88 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: Is it to use the math a Gaussian distribution of 89 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 1: one America or we could become where Alan Krueger would suggest, 90 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: almost two America's one gaining all the benefits of the 91 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: system and another America that's just not participating. Look, Tom, 92 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: you make a good point that for what most families 93 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: care about, it's not GDP growth or the size of 94 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: the economy as a whole. It's how they're doing. Now. 95 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: How they're doing is getting paid two and a half 96 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: percent more than they were getting paid twelve months ago. 97 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: That's the fastest growth we've seen in nominal wages since 98 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: the financial crisis, but it's not, you know, fast enough 99 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: that has macroeconomic ramifications at times at well. You know, 100 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: one of the reasons that our strategy for the recovery 101 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: focused on cutting taxes for the middle class, putting money 102 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: into things like food stamps and unemployment insurance was he 103 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: wanted money in the hands of the households who were 104 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: most likely to spend it. So I think you certainly 105 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: um need to think about distribution both to understand what 106 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: the economy is doing for people, but how it affects 107 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: the Ecomomi is our distribution now versus ten or twenty 108 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: years ago. The anger of so many saying the government 109 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: has too much the government is controlling our lives with redistribution. 110 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: Where do we fit in now versus previous Super Tuesdays? 111 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: If you look at statistics on the sheriff income going 112 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: to the top one per cent, the ratio of people 113 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: at the nine percentiles, the tenth percentile, any of the 114 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: standard metrics Genie cofficient and his standard metrics of inequality, 115 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: they've risen pretty steadily since um the late nine seventies. 116 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: The government has been a counterweight on that, something like 117 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: the Affordable Care Act. We cut taxes in this administration 118 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: for low income working families. If you have two children, 119 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,119 Speaker 1: for every dollar you make, you get forty cents back 120 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: from the government. Near an income tax credit, you get 121 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: as much as another fifteen cents back in the child 122 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: tax credit. That's a real motivation to work. It helps 123 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: reward work, and that's the type of pro work, pro 124 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: growth strategy that we also reduces inequality. It wasn't your intention, 125 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: but the administration and Republicans backed into austerity the last 126 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: couple of years with the sequester programs. Austerity done, and 127 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: did it accomplish anything for the country and the economy. 128 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: I think we took some major fiscal steps to expand 129 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: the economy in two thousand nine. We followed up with 130 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: several more, but those ended prematurely when the economy still 131 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: needed help. Um we let the payroll tax cut go away. 132 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: Instead we put in place a sequester. One of the 133 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: things that I think is set the stage for stronger 134 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: growth is we reached a deal at the end of 135 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: last year that is going to accomplish of undoing this 136 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: of the President's proposal to undo the sequest stair, and 137 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: when we did that deal, you saw investment banks, other 138 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: forecasters raise their forecast for growth. Fiscal policy is going 139 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: to be a mild positive instead of subtracting from our 140 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: growth this year. Did those years of austerity, though, accomplish anything. 141 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: Now our deficit is in a better position. It's gone 142 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: from nearly ten percent of GDP down to two and 143 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: a half percent of GDP. You look forward, our debt 144 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: is in a more sustainable place. It's not all the 145 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: way there. There's more we need to do on both 146 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: the spending side and on the entitlement side, but we're 147 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: in a more sustainable fiscal situation. I think we could 148 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: have done it in a more gradual way. Though. Let 149 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: me ask you to to talk about this more for 150 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: our listeners, the idea of the deficit to GDP ratio. 151 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: We are still spending more than we take in. But 152 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: it's generally accepted among economists that that's okay if you're 153 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: a country as opposed to a person. That's right. Countries 154 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: are different kind trees live forever. Countries also used some 155 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: of that money to make investments in our future economic growth, 156 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: and so as an economist, what I like to look at, 157 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: is is our debt declining as a share of the economy? 158 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: Is it on a path to do that? And we're 159 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: close to that. We need to do more together over 160 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: the UCB has a limit how much could we spend? 161 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: We from the transition, talking to Tim Geitner, Larry Summers, 162 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: Peter Orzag we all set the goal that we should 163 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: try to be below three percent of g d P. 164 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: If you look at the President's latest budget, like most 165 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: of the budgets he's submitted to Congress, it would accomplish 166 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: that goal. We're gonna come back Jason Furman with us UH, 167 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: with the White House, and of course he's traps in 168 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: quietly around the political debate at the moment. We're gonna 169 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: come back with Dr Furman and touch a little bit 170 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: on some of the political themes that we've seen on 171 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: the Super Tuesday. We'll do that delicate. We will do 172 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: that delicately with respect. President has asked him to hope 173 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: and personally report the American Samola results very Jason Firman 174 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: will be up to do that coming up. Also, our 175 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: important conversation with Alan Greenspan. It was absolutely fascinating the 176 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: challenges the Chairman Greenspan scenes forward. Obviously on dot Frank 177 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: he was not constructive. And on entitlements, that's no surprise, 178 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: but it was an Ellen Greenspan greatly concerned about productivity 179 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: as well. Let me do a data check. We can 180 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: even do those in the Nation's Capital. Hard to believe 181 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: is that his futures up fifteen DAL features up one 182 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: sixteen oil with a three day nice rally West Texas 183 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: thirty four sixteen up forty cents, Brent Crewed thirty six 184 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: seventy one. Michael McKee and Tom Keane This Super Tuesday 185 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: from the Nation's Capital and Washington FM. Alright, let's check 186 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: out with Michael Byr. Now I'll get the latest world 187 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: in national headlines. Michael alike, Tom, thank you very much. 188 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: This could be a make or break day for the 189 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:05,239 Speaker 1: remaining presidential candidates. Today is the Super Tuesday primaries. Bloomberg 190 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: will have NonStop Super Tuesday coverage throughout the night, starting 191 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 1: with a special edition with all due respect starting at 192 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: five pm Wall Street Time. President Obama will meet today 193 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: with the Senate Republicans who avowed to block his Supreme 194 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: Court nominee. A federal judge has ruled that the Justice 195 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: Department cannot force Apple to give the FBI access to 196 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: locked iPhone data in a New York drug case. The 197 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: Brooklyn ruling could affect a larger debate about privacy rights 198 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: versus national security. The ruling could pay the way in 199 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: Apple's fight against the California judges order that it creates 200 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: specialized software to help the FBI hack into an iPhone 201 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: linked to the San Bernardino terrorism investigation. Global News twenty 202 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: four hours a day, powered by our journalists by Michael Barr, 203 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: Mike Tom, Michael Barr, thanks so much again. 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