Speaker 1: I'm Thomas White.
Speaker 2: You're listening to Fish on First on Foul Territory Network.
Speaker 3: Fish Unfiltered, Episode one twelve here on the Fish on
Speaker 3: First podcast, part of the Foul Territory Network and presented
Speaker 3: by Jetski Rentals of South Florida. I'm Eli Sussman, the
Speaker 3: founder of Fish on First. Usually don't hear me very
Speaker 3: often on Unfiltered. This is a bit of an unconventional
Speaker 3: episode heading into the All Star break that I think
Speaker 3: you guys are going to absolutely love. Coming up in
Speaker 3: just a few minutes. Here on the pod, you'll be
Speaker 3: hearing an exclusive interview with Cam Canerella, one of the
Speaker 3: very best prospects in this Marlins organization. He spoke virtually
Speaker 3: with Alex Carver and Isaaca Zoot about the incredible breakout
Speaker 3: year that he's had in this Marlins organization and the
Speaker 3: progress he's made towards becoming an eventual Big leaguer, his
Speaker 3: reflections on the draft itself. This is a chance, of course,
Speaker 3: for us to plug our previous podcast episode at for
Speaker 3: whatever reason you didn't get a chance to watch live.
Speaker 3: We had our reactions to the MLB Draft, specifically the
Speaker 3: first round pick that the Marlins made selecting shortstop Jacob
Speaker 3: Lombard at the top of their draft class. So we
Speaker 3: had our old reactions from our analysts, our draft analysts
Speaker 3: as well as everybody else on the staff. Those of
Speaker 3: us that are just kind of along for the ride
Speaker 3: don't know very much about the draft prospects. Most of
Speaker 3: us in agreement that Marlins nailed that pick given the circumstances.
Speaker 3: Although it's going to be a lot of pressure on
Speaker 3: Lombard shoulders to justify that that selection given how much
Speaker 3: of a percentage of their bonus pool, he is going
Speaker 3: to the accountable form all by himself. Check out that
Speaker 3: episode if you haven't already. That went up on Saturday afternoon,
Speaker 3: and it's very fitting that it goes in directly to
Speaker 3: the Canerella interview because Canarella's selected just a year ago
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five. He was the second pick of
Speaker 3: that Marlins draft class. I had an article that went
Speaker 3: up on the side a couple of weeks ago. I'm
Speaker 3: going to browse through it here about looking at the
Speaker 3: Marlins picks from a year ago and getting up to
Speaker 3: speed on how they're doing right now, with the understanding
Speaker 3: that it takes many years to fully assess a draft class.
Speaker 3: For example, I would say that the twenty twenty class
Speaker 3: is the epitome of that, right because it was headlined
Speaker 3: by Max Meyer that for a lot of his tenure
Speaker 3: in the Marlins organization. Seems like that was a misuse
Speaker 3: of the number three overall pick, and all of a
Speaker 3: sudden six years later, our tune changes on that quite
Speaker 3: a bit, as Max is now representing the Marlins at
Speaker 3: the All Star Game, and deservedly so. But this is
Speaker 3: a check in on how the Marlins draft class from
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five is doing a year later, which feels
Speaker 3: a little bit more useful than usual, just because this
Speaker 3: was a very rare all college draft for the Marlins.
Speaker 3: Twenty one selections all them out of four year universities,
Speaker 3: which would indicate that these players, under the most circumstances,
Speaker 3: would be quicker to the big leagues than players that
Speaker 3: were selected out of high school for example. The Marlins
Speaker 3: went this route, and the quick summary is that none
Speaker 3: of these are exceptionally fast risers. We're a full year later,
Speaker 3: and I wouldn't say any of them are knocking on
Speaker 3: the door of a call up. It would be somewhat
Speaker 3: unlikely if any of these guys debut in twenty twenty six,
Speaker 3: although we have several that are prome to debut in
Speaker 3: early twenty twenty seven. As we'll get to I'm going
Speaker 3: to scroll up in reverse order, starting from the end
Speaker 3: of the draft to the first not gonna mention every
Speaker 3: single name on here. If you want to find that again,
Speaker 3: this is on fish on first dot Com in our
Speaker 3: prospects section. Many of these late round picks for the
Speaker 3: Marlins were on the pitching side. Cannon, Pickle, Payden, Fosher, Hayden, Cuthberson,
Speaker 3: Xavier Cardenas, R. J. Schunk. He is a left hander,
Speaker 3: and for most of these guys it's been a combination
Speaker 3: of control issues or just lack of availability. You have
Speaker 3: players here like Cardanus, who's only pitched ten and two
Speaker 3: thirds total innings in pro Bawl over the course of
Speaker 3: a calends er a year shown fourteen innings, and pick
Speaker 3: El thirty one professional endings. Almost all these guys are
Speaker 3: going to be relievers if they do make it even
Speaker 3: close to the major league level, and control has been
Speaker 3: a problem overall for these guys, but relatively small investments
Speaker 3: there's been Josh Hogue. He's a position player in the
Speaker 3: fifteenth rounds, Carson Laws and the fourteenth rounds who's actually
Speaker 3: been able to pitch quite a bit and had a
Speaker 3: bit of an up and down ten years so far,
Speaker 3: which is an improvement compared to some of these guys
Speaker 3: drafted behind him. But none of these pictures yet have
Speaker 3: ascended beyond the high A level. I think that's what
Speaker 3: sticks out is that arms can move very quickly through
Speaker 3: an organization. If you show good stuff and you show
Speaker 3: decent control, then these players can be fast tracked towards
Speaker 3: the big leagues. And instead, the Marlins aren't going to
Speaker 3: be getting any help from these pictures quite yet. It's
Speaker 3: gonna take a little lot longer to go. But I'd
Speaker 3: say Carson Laws, out of their Day three picks, he's
Speaker 3: the one that really jumps out of the screen at
Speaker 3: a nearly perfect performance a couple of weeks ago for
Speaker 3: hya Ba Lloyd's the rest of these Day three picks
Speaker 3: Catcher Wilson Weber. Unfortunately, he hasn't hit a lick and
Speaker 3: doesn't look like he'll stick at catcher much moving forward.
Speaker 3: Jaden Williamson has been fiching out of the bullpen in
Speaker 3: Jupiter and coming from a very very small school. He
Speaker 3: has not performed whatsoever with a very inflated era. As
Speaker 3: we get higher up. This is going back into the
Speaker 3: first ten rounds of the draft. You have a utility
Speaker 3: player Jake McCutcheon who's been primarily converted to an outfielder
Speaker 3: at this point. Cayden Wilson very quietly got a huge
Speaker 3: sounding bonus for the Marlins right around seven hundred thousand
Speaker 3: dollars coming out of the draft out of Texas A
Speaker 3: and M. And he got hurt after his very first
Speaker 3: relief appearance in Pro Bowl, so we haven't seen him since.
Speaker 3: One finally positive to really shout out here in the
Speaker 3: eighth rounds was infielder Amelio Barreras, coming out of Grand
Speaker 3: Canyon University. Barreras has been a great performer for this organization,
Speaker 3: Welle of the few guys that actually hit extremely well
Speaker 3: at low A Jupiter, which is hard to do. What
Speaker 3: you see is that because of the conditions are so
Speaker 3: different offensively in Jupiter, guys get moved up even if
Speaker 3: they don't perform. But he really did more walks than
Speaker 3: strikeouts at Jupiter before getting moved up to Beloit, and
Speaker 3: he's continued to show good discipline with the skycarp plays
Speaker 3: second base, shortstop, and third base, so the versatility helps.
Speaker 3: And for the moment he is snuck into our fof
Speaker 3: Top thirty list, he'll have to get back on track
Speaker 3: offensively to maintain that because there has been some slippage
Speaker 3: since his most recent promotion. But that is a decent
Speaker 3: fine to have. A self described pest of a player
Speaker 3: who is very difficult to strike out, who can play
Speaker 3: a lot of different positions, and who has shown some
Speaker 3: more power I think than was anticipated thus far, but
Speaker 3: primarily a guy that is going to cause opponents to
Speaker 3: bleed to death with well placed singles all around the field.
Speaker 3: In the seventh round, j Clementsee became coming out of Florida.
Speaker 3: In the sixth round, Joey Vallini, he's a He looked
Speaker 3: like he was on the verge of maybe moving up
Speaker 3: to double A Pensacola, but has had more inconsistencies since
Speaker 3: posting this article. Overall, he's been very dificult to hit,
Speaker 3: but also very easy to run against. So it's an
Speaker 3: interesting profile there as a left handed pitcher who has
Speaker 3: a huge frame, somebody that I think you will see
Speaker 3: him at the double a level later on this summer
Speaker 3: and then at the top ends. Injuries really have been
Speaker 3: quite a bit of a story with all these position players.
Speaker 3: Marlins went with hitters each of their first six picks
Speaker 3: of this draft. Chris Royo in the fifth rounds a
Speaker 3: guy who spent most of his childhood in South Florida,
Speaker 3: originally from Puerto Rico. He suffered a moniscous injury just
Speaker 3: a few games into the season. He'll be back to
Speaker 3: baseball activities shortly after the season ends, but he's not
Speaker 3: going to be playing any more minor league ball this year.
Speaker 3: Drew Farreu has missed a considerable amount of time due
Speaker 3: to injury as well for this team, and after hitting
Speaker 3: at a great clip coming out of the draft in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, it hasn't been the same year this year.
Speaker 3: And Max Williams, as I was writing this a couple
Speaker 3: of weeks ago, he had been completely silenced. He had
Speaker 3: been on the IL all season long, and just recently
Speaker 3: made his debut with Loway Jupiter already shown some promise
Speaker 3: in that small sample, and I expect that he'll be
Speaker 3: up at Beloit's later on this summer, but injuries have
Speaker 3: taken away a lot of his opportunity.
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Speaker 3: So then we'll dive more closely into the very top guys,
Speaker 3: the top three picks, because this is where the Marlins
Speaker 3: invest in most of their money, and these are the
Speaker 3: guys that I think have the by far the best
Speaker 3: chance of actually being impact big league players, which is
Speaker 3: really all you need. If these top three guys all
Speaker 3: kind of come close to their ceilings, then that really
Speaker 3: justifies the whole draft class. That's the realistic, the grim
Speaker 3: realities that most of these players are not going to
Speaker 3: be reaching the big leagues, and that's a very small
Speaker 3: sample usually that actually stays in the big leagues over
Speaker 3: the course of a handful of years. But usually these
Speaker 3: top three have fascinating potentials and very different profiles from
Speaker 3: each other as well. So weave Brandon Compton. He was
Speaker 3: their second round pick. He's now up to the double
Speaker 3: A level, currently ranked nineteen on the FLF Top thirty,
Speaker 3: and he is as extreme as you can get when
Speaker 3: it comes to the three true outcomes being home runs, strikeouts,
Speaker 3: and walks. It was it was absolutely mind boggling early
Speaker 3: on this season with Beloit's how much how often he
Speaker 3: was doing the walks and the strikeouts. He was on
Speaker 3: pace to set of Marlins minor league record for walks,
Speaker 3: and he wasn't far behind when it comes to strikeouts.
Speaker 3: But fortunately he's actually responded very well since his promotion
Speaker 3: to Pensacola, where the home run production has been off
Speaker 3: the charts. Another fun wrinkle is that he is stealing
Speaker 3: bases at a high level for a guy that I
Speaker 3: think you could just size him up with the eye test.
Speaker 3: That is a very thick individual, somebody that you wouldn't
Speaker 3: expect to produce even average speed, and yet to this
Speaker 3: point his minor league career, he's on a pace of
Speaker 3: stealing on the course of a full season a rate
Speaker 3: he's on pace for thirty plus steals, and this season
Speaker 3: alone he's closing in on twenty so far. With Compton,
Speaker 3: I don't think that aspect will translate to the big
Speaker 3: league level, but the pole side power is extremely impressive
Speaker 3: for Compton. That's going to be his carrying aspect. Between
Speaker 3: that and the walks, that's the formula you would hope
Speaker 3: to be a long term strong side platoon bat at
Speaker 3: either left field or DH, a combination of those two Yeah,
Speaker 3: to this point, they're of course trying to make him
Speaker 3: stick as a defender in those corner raple field spots.
Speaker 3: He may end up transitioning to first base later on.
Speaker 3: That's a possibility given some of the limitations with his
Speaker 3: range as an outfielder. It's just that he is hitting
Speaker 3: so so well since moving over to Pensacola and ops
Speaker 3: closing in on eleven hundred as of this recording, and
Speaker 3: now he's riding them on the verge of taking over
Speaker 3: the minor league lead for this team in home runs
Speaker 3: as a whole this year with seventeen total home runs
Speaker 3: in seventy games slash line for the whole season at
Speaker 3: this point two forty four fourteen four eighty eight, and
Speaker 3: it's been Yeah, it's been really encouraging. I'd say border
Speaker 3: lanning on a realistic best case scenario for Compton so
Speaker 3: far that I don't really see him being an everyday
Speaker 3: big league player, but he could become quite close to
Speaker 3: that if his bat is what carrying him. We're gonna
Speaker 3: skip over Canarella to talk quickly about Iva Arquette, the
Speaker 3: Marlins top pick seventh overall, with someone of a surprise
Speaker 3: that he was available to the Marlins in this draft,
Speaker 3: given all the hype arounds him. After an incredible junior
Speaker 3: season at Oregon State, he ends up getting the largest
Speaker 3: signing bonus in Marlin's history. And to this point, you know,
Speaker 3: his stock has dropped a tiny bit. Part of it
Speaker 3: has been due to injuries, the lack of availability coming
Speaker 3: out of spring training. Had a core injury and had
Speaker 3: to undergo surgery for that, so his debut was delayed
Speaker 3: almost a full month into the regular season. As we're
Speaker 3: talking now, he's out again for an extended period, although
Speaker 3: he should be returning later on this year. But he's
Speaker 3: now coming back from a finger injury that he suffered
Speaker 3: on a slide, and he's just not hitting as well
Speaker 3: as you would hope he of course he did at
Speaker 3: Oregon State, but it's been about an average hitter in
Speaker 3: pro ball. He started off pretty aggressively, had a high
Speaker 3: A Beloites last summer and did solidly and he built
Speaker 3: upon that enough, of course, to get a promotion to
Speaker 3: Pensacola this year. But since moving up to the Double
Speaker 3: A level, he's now been firmly below le gaverage. What's
Speaker 3: kind of encouraging is the quality of contact is still
Speaker 3: very good. He hits the ball very hard, and the
Speaker 3: strikeouts are manageable to this point. It's more so that
Speaker 3: he's perhaps the swing decisions as a whole could use
Speaker 3: some improvement. The fact that his walk rate has gone
Speaker 3: down so much is somewhat of a yellow flag when
Speaker 3: it comes to our Quet as a defender. The Marlins
Speaker 3: took him as a shortstop despite having an unconventional build
Speaker 3: for that position six foot five, and I would say awkward,
Speaker 3: but a more of a string string being built than
Speaker 3: a classic overall well proportioned build, and it's been working
Speaker 3: for him. He's able to make all the plays that
Speaker 3: he would expect, and the arm strength is there, the
Speaker 3: overall athleticism, and I'd say the instincts are there pretty
Speaker 3: well too. With our Quet, where there absolutely is a
Speaker 3: scenario where he plays games as a shortstop in the majors,
Speaker 3: I would guess that for a lot of organizations that
Speaker 3: he there ends up being somebody else, one of his
Speaker 3: teammates that is a little bit better overall there. It's
Speaker 3: just that there's nothing to squealthong about him defensively, and
Speaker 3: of course, if he's able to stick there, that changes
Speaker 3: the threshold for what he has to do at the
Speaker 3: plate in order to be a good everyday player. So
Speaker 3: that is still within the realm of possibility for him
Speaker 3: to be an above average regular, for him to produce
Speaker 3: multiple wins per season at the big league level, and
Speaker 3: the underlying offensive numbers are a little bit more encouraging
Speaker 3: than the actual results so far. It's just that because
Speaker 3: of the lack of results and because of the lack
Speaker 3: of reps overall, we're not going to see him the
Speaker 3: majors this year. I mean, I think the Marlins were
Speaker 3: hopeful and not all that unrealistic with their hope that
Speaker 3: he'd be impacting their big league team in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: That's not going to happen. It's more of a question
Speaker 3: of even if he moves up any more in the
Speaker 3: organization this year, I think most likely he spends the
Speaker 3: rest of the summer in Double A, starts that next
Speaker 3: year with TRIPA A Jacksonville, and then it's a matter
Speaker 3: of saying how much he responds at the plate in
Speaker 3: order to see where he he fits with their big
Speaker 3: league team at some point over the course of next season.
Speaker 3: And now to smoothly transition into the cam interview, we
Speaker 3: need to talk about cam Canerella. He has moved up
Speaker 3: all the way to fifth on our fof Top thirty list,
Speaker 3: well just one spot behind Arquette. The perception entering this draft,
Speaker 3: or I should say, on the heels of this drafts,
Speaker 3: is that Arquette was the headliner, and that has absolutely
Speaker 3: changed to us. At fof Canerella and Arquette are neck
Speaker 3: and neck. They are on the same tier no matter
Speaker 3: how you slice it in terms of being pieces of
Speaker 3: this Marlins future, and it's different profiles. Canerella plays center
Speaker 3: field and has gone reps at all three outfield spots
Speaker 3: this season, so different positions and different hitting profiles too.
Speaker 3: And for Canerella it's been a pleasant surprise just the
Speaker 3: way that he has accumulated so many hits, so many walks,
Speaker 3: and so many home runs. His main limitation coming out
Speaker 3: of the draft was going to be related to both
Speaker 3: arm strength and over the fence power, and in the
Speaker 3: power department, he has absolutely shattered anybody's ideas about what
Speaker 3: he was capable of, especially of late since moving up
Speaker 3: to Pensacola. He's overall this year he's simply been one
Speaker 3: of the best hitters in minor league baseball, and that
Speaker 3: is just shocking to say for a guy that even
Speaker 3: last summer, their approach has looked good throughout the entire process.
Speaker 3: But to see this production an updated slash line a
Speaker 3: three sixty five that's the batting average, four forty three
Speaker 3: on base and a five ninety nine slugging percentage for
Speaker 3: a six foot tall guy that kind of looks like
Speaker 3: a slap hitter at first glance. To have him slugging
Speaker 3: six hundred, to have him drawing as many walks as
Speaker 3: strikeouts is jaw dropping. Twelve total home runs, the majority
Speaker 3: of those have come over the last calendar month, nine
Speaker 3: stolen bases, a WRC plus of one seventy seventy percent
Speaker 3: better than the league average hitter when adjusted for the
Speaker 3: league and environmental factors. Something to keep in mind is
Speaker 3: that it has been easier overall to hit in the
Speaker 3: Double A Southern League this year compared to last year,
Speaker 3: so that distorts the numbers a little bit. It's just
Speaker 3: that WRC plus accounts for that and tries to tries
Speaker 3: to account for it overall and adjust accordingly. And even
Speaker 3: with that adjustment, you're still talking about a guy that
Speaker 3: is absolutely at the top of the scale for offensive
Speaker 3: production across minor league baseball. This season, he ranks fourth
Speaker 3: in the entire minors at any level in WRC plus
Speaker 3: among guys with at least two hundred played appearances. Missed
Speaker 3: a little bit of time due to a wrist injury,
Speaker 3: and since he's been back, he's been even better than
Speaker 3: he was before. The consistency has been crazy. Twenty three
Speaker 3: times on twenty three games reaching base out of his
Speaker 3: last twenty five. That's been kind of hard for the
Speaker 3: course for him when he's been healthy this season, and yeah,
Speaker 3: there's this guy is really exceptional when it comes to
Speaker 3: that production. Especially the way that he hits home runs
Speaker 3: out to the opposite field has really blown me away.
Speaker 3: Another element to his game that really makes a big
Speaker 3: difference for a guy that profile wise, we thought was
Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of singles to the opposite field
Speaker 3: and for him to sneak it over the wall, there's
Speaker 3: so much value to be gleaned from that. So with Canerella,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of boxes he checks in terms of
Speaker 3: being a future everyday player for this Marlins organization. He's
Speaker 3: the guy that I would expect to be the first
Speaker 3: one to reach triple A. For him to be hitting
Speaker 3: as well as he is with Pensacola, not even a
Speaker 3: tiny sample anymore. We're talking about a month and a
Speaker 3: half of production at that level, where since he's moved
Speaker 3: up there, he's been hitting just as well as he
Speaker 3: was in Beloit. Like, there's no reason why he won't
Speaker 3: be up an additional level at some point in late
Speaker 3: August or September. So he's gonna be knocking on the
Speaker 3: door for a big league call up in early twenty
Speaker 3: twenty seven. And for an outfielder, that means you could
Speaker 3: fit him in a lot of different places, even though
Speaker 3: center field is something he's capable of doing if there's
Speaker 3: any spot in the outfield moving forward. Kinderella is just
Speaker 3: a very well rounded hitter at this point, a guy
Speaker 3: that we thought had a nice floor as a hitter,
Speaker 3: but the way that his ceiling has absolutely shot up
Speaker 3: since entering pro ball, that's at testament to his work
Speaker 3: and to what the Marls are doing on the player
Speaker 3: development side. With that being said, yeah, we'll have a
Speaker 3: whole lot more analysis of the twenty twenty six draft
Speaker 3: class as that plays out over the course of the
Speaker 3: next few hours. Check out fish On first for all
Speaker 3: the breakdowns of that, But now we're going to talk
Speaker 3: to Cam about how he's doing here in twenty twenty
Speaker 3: six some of his goals for the rest of this
Speaker 3: year and long term. Once again, this is with Alex
Speaker 3: Carver and with isaacazout here on Fish Unfiltered. Enjoy this
Speaker 3: interview with Cam Enjoy your all star break, and we
Speaker 3: hope you keep following us here on Fish on First
Speaker 3: throughout the rest of the twenty twenty sixth season and beyond.
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Speaker 2: Foul, a swimming upstream edition of Fish Unfiltered on the
Speaker 2: foul Serrytory Network. Grinding through some tech difficulties, but we
Speaker 2: got there to be joined by Camcanderella, Lee Isaac, and
Speaker 2: Cam one of the hottest hitting prospects in all of
Speaker 2: minor league baseball, definitely in the Marlins organization. Going to
Speaker 2: cover that, going to cover a bit more from his
Speaker 2: start to his professional career as well. So cam Man,
Speaker 2: thanks for getting through the tech stuff with us. Thanks
Speaker 2: for joining us today. How's everything going.
Speaker 1: Thank you all? And it's going good so far out bought.
Speaker 2: You awesome, doing all right, doing it all right. So
Speaker 2: we're gonna get to what you're doing recently in Pensacola
Speaker 2: amidst that recent call up that you got and all
Speaker 2: that stuff, which is awesome, but we wanted to start
Speaker 2: with you back at the basically the start of your
Speaker 2: college career, well at least at Clemson in twenty four.
Speaker 2: Basically that whole year for those that don't know, Cam
Speaker 2: played the whole year injury Labram injury for him, played
Speaker 2: the whole year hurt. Really, they had you dhing more
Speaker 2: than anything else, had you out of the outfield, had
Speaker 2: you mostly at DH. But I just wanted to hit
Speaker 2: on you with hit on it with you that decision
Speaker 2: when it came to the health, Like, you know you're hurt.
Speaker 6: Did they give you like a choice?
Speaker 2: Did they tell you that, hey, yeah, you could play
Speaker 2: or you can have the surgery and be out, Like
Speaker 2: what went into that decision for you guys?
Speaker 8: I talk to Himbout, the coaches, and my family just
Speaker 8: to see what when to go to the daughter, and
Speaker 8: they said it's torn. So kind of just talk to
Speaker 8: my agent, coaches and my family and it was like,
Speaker 8: you can play or you can get surgery now and
Speaker 8: come back healthy next year. But you know, I don't
Speaker 8: like sitting out, so I wanted to play, and I'm
Speaker 8: happy I did because that was one of my best years.
Speaker 9: So, yeah, you mentioned it. You came back healthy, and
Speaker 9: really you performed extremely well in that season, in your
Speaker 9: draft season, I should say, just did you have to
Speaker 9: adjust anything physically following that surgery?
Speaker 8: Just rehabbing every day and just trying to get back healthy.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's a long process eight months, and you
Speaker 8: know there's a lot of stuff you have to do
Speaker 8: with that, but it was. It was a good process,
Speaker 8: and I'm happy where I am now and I'm back healthy.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I guess the one thing that kind of
Speaker 2: went idle for you for a while was the arm,
Speaker 2: throwing arm, particularly in the outfield. We know that you
Speaker 2: know anything with the labor, I mean, you're gonna not
Speaker 2: use the arm for a little while at least, So
Speaker 2: I could talk about that building back arm strengths maybe
Speaker 2: and how that kind of went for you as you
Speaker 2: started using it again rehab from that probably in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five going into that year, How did you get
Speaker 2: back into strengths, get back into shape with the arm particularly?
Speaker 8: Yeah, Clemson, we had a good rehab guy and a girl,
Speaker 8: but I went to the football facility most of the time.
Speaker 1: And rehabbed over there. Because I mean, they have a
Speaker 1: lot of injuries over there.
Speaker 8: But I feel like it was a good process, just
Speaker 8: trying to get my strength back and being in the
Speaker 8: weight room too. Our training coach got me a little
Speaker 8: bit stronger in that aspect. But I would say when
Speaker 8: I got drafted, that's when I found my strength back.
Speaker 8: Just being in rehab facility every day with our guys here.
Speaker 8: And I feel like this year, I mean my arm's
Speaker 8: almost back to normal, So I feel like maybe a
Speaker 8: couple or the next year coming up, it'll feel really good.
Speaker 9: You mentioned getting drafted. I want to take you back
Speaker 9: to draft night if you can just take us through
Speaker 9: the reactions of getting selected by the Marlins. Who you
Speaker 9: celebrate with, who were you with, and who was the
Speaker 9: first group of people that you contacted when you found
Speaker 9: out you were heading to be heading to South Beach.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Draft night was pretty fun.
Speaker 8: I mean that was the first time I ever done it,
Speaker 8: like any of my family has or my friends, so
Speaker 8: have my friends family, and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was really it. We had to have the
Speaker 1: golf course, and I mean it was it was a
Speaker 1: good night.
Speaker 8: You know. I hugged my family and my friends for sure,
Speaker 8: and uh then I got on the call with all
Speaker 8: the guys in the organization and I went out there
Speaker 8: a couple of weeks later.
Speaker 1: Because trying to figure out the money wise or whatever
Speaker 1: it was. It was a good process for sure.
Speaker 9: You mentioned the negotiations took taking a while to come
Speaker 9: to fruition. Were there any ever, any doubts that you know,
Speaker 9: a signing may not happen.
Speaker 8: I knew I was coming for sure, just trying to,
Speaker 8: like I said, figure out the money wise, but I
Speaker 8: knew I was and drafted and I was going to
Speaker 8: sign for sure.
Speaker 2: After that, of course, we had to spring training. Uh
Speaker 2: this past year, your first, uh, your first spring training
Speaker 2: with with the Marlins and obviously in the big leagues.
Speaker 6: What was that process like for you?
Speaker 2: Just you know, different, I'm sure than the start of
Speaker 2: the college season starting your professional career, you know, out
Speaker 2: in Jupiter. So if you could take us through that.
Speaker 2: The Marlins had some new stuff around that that you
Speaker 2: that you got to use, new new locker rooms, new clubhouse,
Speaker 2: all that stuff. But just take us through the thoughts
Speaker 2: and UH and emotions that you had. Uh, just kind
Speaker 2: of participating on on a big league field for the
Speaker 2: first time.
Speaker 1: It was cool to me a lot of new guys.
Speaker 8: I mean I didn't know really any guys beside the
Speaker 8: draft guys and the guys that played in HIA last year.
Speaker 1: But I mean it was a cool experience.
Speaker 8: And uh, I mean I just had to get used
Speaker 8: to like practicing and scrimmaging every day, because I mean
Speaker 8: in college you played three or four days a week.
Speaker 1: But I feel like it was a.
Speaker 8: Good experience, and I'm happy I've met a lot of
Speaker 8: new guys because I mean some of them are my
Speaker 8: friends now.
Speaker 1: And Jupi is a beautiful place.
Speaker 8: Happy to live there or I got an apartment there now,
Speaker 8: so uh there, And then I golf sometimes when I
Speaker 8: had free time, so there's a lot of nice courses
Speaker 8: out there, and also the beach.
Speaker 1: Nice man.
Speaker 9: We always knew that you could hit, and you know,
Speaker 9: you always had that hit tool and you had some power.
Speaker 9: But this year you are really exhibiting the power. I
Speaker 9: don't think like anyone expected you to just homering out
Speaker 9: of your mind over the last month or so. How
Speaker 9: did that happen as an organization been working with you
Speaker 9: on a specific swing plane. Just how is the power
Speaker 9: showed out so much this year.
Speaker 8: From junior year to now. I feel like just being back,
Speaker 8: coming back healthy. I mean I was her junior year,
Speaker 8: but until the end of the year I felt pretty good.
Speaker 8: But that and then I've been using this thing, like
Speaker 8: this flat bad thing in the cages and just trying
Speaker 8: to pull the ball in the air more and I
Speaker 8: feel like that tell me a lot, and just using
Speaker 8: that with my hand coach here, So I feel like
Speaker 8: that's a big part of that too.
Speaker 4: Another three too, Canerella high drive right field, going back
Speaker 4: horvat at the watering track.
Speaker 3: At the wall, good bye, take your time around the bases,
Speaker 3: young man.
Speaker 1: It's a tie game.
Speaker 4: Night, the blast of the year. On the ninth pitch
Speaker 4: of the back.
Speaker 2: You mentioned health, and of course we're so stoked to
Speaker 2: see you healthy now and everything that you're doing. But man,
Speaker 2: come out of your first spring training that we just
Speaker 2: talked about. You go to boloite and early in the
Speaker 2: year you run into coldie shade and you break your wrist.
Speaker 2: So I mean, it's gonna suck just being on the
Speaker 2: shelf right away after spring training. You know you're going
Speaker 2: in for your first full year, and then bam, you
Speaker 2: land back on the shelf again. With that, just the
Speaker 2: fluke thing you run into the guy in and break
Speaker 2: your wrists. So if you just talked to us about that,
Speaker 2: just there was a pretty quick rehab for you. You
Speaker 2: got back pretty fast. But I'm just going through that
Speaker 2: process and being so excited to get on the field
Speaker 2: and then bam, now you're hurt, And yeah, I miss
Speaker 2: some time.
Speaker 8: I was happy to be on the field and I
Speaker 8: had that situation happened, kind of down on myself because
Speaker 8: you know, I didn't want to get hurt or whatever.
Speaker 8: But you know, I came back pretty fast, just rehabbed
Speaker 8: every day, did all my stuff, weight room, run, throw, hit,
Speaker 8: and came back And I felt like God puts you
Speaker 8: in a position where he might not want you on
Speaker 8: the field then, but a couple of weeks later, you know,
Speaker 8: he had my back and he saw the things I
Speaker 8: did out there in Hi.
Speaker 1: So I feel like He's done a lot for me
Speaker 1: and just grateful for that.
Speaker 9: They say the jump to double A, it's a pretty
Speaker 9: hefty jump in terms of talent that you're facing there
Speaker 9: right some people consider at the toughest level in all
Speaker 9: minor league baseball. I'm just curious how you would differentiate
Speaker 9: or compare just the US. How good the pitching has
Speaker 9: been in both A ball as well as double A.
Speaker 9: How do the different ship?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, hey, you got guys throwing one hundred,
Speaker 8: but they don't really know where it's going. Coming to
Speaker 8: double A, I mean I like to swing a lot,
Speaker 8: So you got guys throwing a lot of strikes and good,
Speaker 8: good stuff, good commands.
Speaker 1: So I feel like just coming from Hya to double
Speaker 1: A is the pitching is a lot better for sure.
Speaker 8: And I would say the parks are if you get
Speaker 8: a hold of one, I mean, it's most likely going
Speaker 8: to go out of the parks fly out here.
Speaker 1: So just like I said, I like to swing, so
Speaker 1: just getting getting a good swing off.
Speaker 2: You know, your guy's pushed pretty quickly with the Marlins.
Speaker 2: You know, three different levels already, So I just wanted
Speaker 2: to ask about how you've been coached and your your
Speaker 2: thoughts on that. How's the continuity been between one levels
Speaker 2: to the next. You know you're in Hia to start
Speaker 2: this year, are now of course you're with the while Hoo's.
Speaker 2: Do you think there's been that modicum of like you're
Speaker 2: working on the same thing, people are speaking the same
Speaker 2: language to you. Has that has there been that that
Speaker 2: level of continuity from level to level in your experience
Speaker 2: so far.
Speaker 8: Yeah, say hi, Double A are saying the same stuff.
Speaker 8: We're working on the same stuff, same thing in the cage.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 8: You know, I feel like getting here on the same time,
Speaker 8: I feel like everything is basically the same moving up,
Speaker 8: you know. I mean I feel like, like I say,
Speaker 8: everything is the same and nothing really changed.
Speaker 9: So Kim, Now at Pensacola, you've been playing alongside some
Speaker 9: pretty intriguing prospects as well in their own right, and
Speaker 9: Dylan Lewis and Brendan Jones sharing an outfield with them
Speaker 9: for the better part of a couple of months. Where
Speaker 9: it on the street has it that Miami is very
Speaker 9: fond of that trio of outfield as they have down
Speaker 9: there in Double A. Just how is what has it
Speaker 9: been like playing with these two, competing with these two
Speaker 9: and just sort of maybe learning anything from them?
Speaker 8: No, for sure, I feel like just playing against great outfooters,
Speaker 8: it's always gets you better. You know.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll play center field a lot, but you know,
Speaker 1: I got to move left or right.
Speaker 8: So I feel like just playing with them, they get
Speaker 8: to teach uh stuff that makes you better or you
Speaker 8: get to teach them, so I feel like just being
Speaker 8: like around them and they knowing the game, I'm knowing
Speaker 8: the game.
Speaker 1: I feel like they teach me a lot, so I
Speaker 1: appreciate them.
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Speaker 2: Excited about all three guys. So Fenwick in there as well. Man,
Speaker 2: they have a lot of dudes, a lot of guys.
Speaker 2: I guess, uh, just a few more before we let
Speaker 2: you get out before the game today, obviously down in Pensacola.
Speaker 2: Thoughts on what the Marlins are doing. I mean, this
Speaker 2: home club, they're pretty exciting so far this year. So
Speaker 2: being a guy that isn't too far away yourself from
Speaker 2: potentially contributing to the major league team, I mean, this
Speaker 2: is a team that's that's rebuilt, but they've they've rebuilt,
Speaker 2: you know, faster than the schedule may have predicted, and
Speaker 2: this year they are right there in the thick of it,
Speaker 2: potentially buyers here at the deadline. You know, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of things going on around the home club. I'm
Speaker 2: sure you guys follow along with it as you can
Speaker 2: from the Clubhouston and your off times. So just your
Speaker 2: thoughts on what what the Marlins are doing at the
Speaker 2: big league level and how it said your to potentially
Speaker 2: join that shortly.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean they won I think what fifty two
Speaker 8: or three games so far, so they're doing really good
Speaker 8: compared to the past couple of years. And I feel like,
Speaker 8: I mean, they just got to keep going and keep competing,
Speaker 8: keep competing up there. And you know, I try not
Speaker 8: like I don't try to, but I try not to
Speaker 8: watch baseball as much because I mean, I play every day,
Speaker 8: so I don't really keep up as much as baseball
Speaker 8: as I should. But like I said, they just need
Speaker 8: to keep going, and I feel like they'll do something
Speaker 8: special this year for sure.
Speaker 9: Just a couple more for me, cam. Number one is
Speaker 9: based on your skill set, your abilities on the field
Speaker 9: on both sides of the ball. Is there a major
Speaker 9: leaguer that you would compare your game to, whether it's
Speaker 9: you know, current or past. What would you compare your game?
Speaker 1: I would say Jackson Merrill, like Pete Crow Armstrong or PCA.
Speaker 1: Let me think of Michael Harris.
Speaker 9: Okay, And then last one for me. You mentioned golf.
Speaker 9: You've been golfing a lot as well. Just tell me
Speaker 9: what the handicaps down to and which were your favorite
Speaker 9: courses up there in Jupiter.
Speaker 1: I shot at eighty what else? Eighty five at this?
Speaker 8: What's the course right across the street, Abacoa from Roger Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: I Wacoa Golf Club.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one.
Speaker 8: I shot at eighty five there, and then I played
Speaker 8: at this other course like ten minutes away, I shot
Speaker 8: like eighty two.
Speaker 9: Okayo plost a single digit's excellent. You're multi talented.
Speaker 7: We love it.
Speaker 2: Other than maybe shooting about a round of golf. What
Speaker 2: are some of the goals you have for the rest
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty six and even going into next year.
Speaker 2: Obviously staying healthy, but you know, baseball non baseball. What
Speaker 2: are some of your personal goals that you have set
Speaker 2: for yourself.
Speaker 8: I would say getting twenty twenty twenty home runs in
Speaker 8: twenty bags, went in Player of the Year for the
Speaker 8: minor league, and I was gonna say, make it to
Speaker 8: the All Star Game, but it didn't happen.
Speaker 2: Man, thanks so much for coming on. Apologies for the
Speaker 2: technical stuff, but thanks for sticking through it with us.
Speaker 2: It's been amazing for you so far. It's been really
Speaker 2: awesome to follow along with it and cover it. So
Speaker 2: congrats all your success. Man, Thanks for doing this with us.
Speaker 2: Really appreciate it and keep getting after it.
Speaker 1: Appreciate Choe, thank you all right, thanks him. Appreciate it.