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Speaker 1: Hey, that folks. It is Sunday, August second, and Robike

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Speaker 1: and I just got a knock on the door from

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Speaker 1: the NYPD and we had two very different reactions to it.

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Speaker 1: With that, Welcome to this live edition. This is in

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Speaker 1: real time edition of Amy and TJ. Robes. I didn't

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Speaker 1: even give you a heads up that when I hit records,

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Speaker 1: this is what we're going to talk about. But you've

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Speaker 1: been a little wound up here in the past several minutes.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to get on record, yes, in part because

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Speaker 1: you said you wanted us to get on record somewhere

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Speaker 1: with what just happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to like text a friend or text

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Speaker 2: a family member just in case something was used against us.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but we've had enough experience in the last

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Speaker 2: few years and actually over the past I mean several

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Speaker 2: years as people who are in the spotlight understanding the vulnerability.

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Speaker 2: If someone wants to accuse you of something or wants

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Speaker 2: to say you did something untoward, you are easy pickings.

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Speaker 2: If you have some name, they could be bold faced

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Speaker 2: in some tabloid, then yeah, there stands to be a

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Speaker 2: gain for someone else if you've pissed them off, if

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Speaker 2: you've made them angry in any way, shape or form.

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Speaker 2: They have a recourse to retaliate against you, either with police,

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Speaker 2: bad publicity. So yes, forgive me if I'm a little

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Speaker 2: on edge, forget or police knock on our door and

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Speaker 2: say there was an anonymous phone call.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so here's the thing, but this is really this

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Speaker 1: just happened to us. They just left five minutes ago.

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Speaker 1: They actually did, but it was much longer of an ordeal,

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Speaker 1: if you will, than that. We've talked about plenty of times.

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Speaker 1: We live Lower Manhattan. We live in Battery Park City,

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Speaker 1: downtown love where we live. Been here in the downtown

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Speaker 1: area for a long time, between Robes Tribeca to the

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Speaker 1: financial district Battery Park City. This is our hood. So

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Speaker 1: we have a building that you can't get in. No

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Speaker 1: one can come in. You can't get deliveries in, which

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Speaker 1: is annoying at times, but for security reasons it's awesome.

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Speaker 1: You have to check in with the front desk before

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Speaker 1: you're allowed up, including apparently police officers. So Robes, a

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Speaker 1: short time ago, we're sitting doing some work, our internal

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Speaker 1: or our phone rings and it's downstairs the front desk

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Speaker 1: and I'm looking at your face not really able to

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Speaker 1: figure out what was happening. So you tell everybody what

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Speaker 1: that conversation was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, so normally we get a call from the

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Speaker 2: front desk if we have a delivery coming, and we

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Speaker 2: know when we have a delivery coming. So I looked

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Speaker 2: say hello, and they say police are here for a

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Speaker 2: wellness check. And I said, excuse me, a wellness check

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Speaker 2: for whom? And he said I can't, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: They just need to come up. They say they need

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Speaker 2: to do a wellness check, and I said, okay, obviously

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Speaker 2: you can send them up. And I got off the

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Speaker 2: phone and my heart was pounding because I was just

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Speaker 2: thinking to myself, why in God's name would anyone need

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Speaker 2: to do a wellness check. We literally just got back

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Speaker 2: late yesterday from several weeks away out east. I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of folks who have been listening understand that.

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Speaker 2: And my two daughters are actually in South Carolina making

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Speaker 2: a movie. They literally left the following day and they

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Speaker 2: were on the road and you're a little one, Sabine.

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Speaker 2: We dropped off late yesterday afternoon, so we know all

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Speaker 2: of our kids are accounted for, and I'm just imagining

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Speaker 2: like a wellness. That's why I said for whom? And

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Speaker 2: so yes, I was nervous, and I thought it was

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Speaker 2: so strange. We had just had a lunch. It's Sunday,

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Speaker 2: and I had a glass of rose and you had

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Speaker 2: a French seventy five right, a prosecco. You were like,

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Speaker 2: mind was like, absolutely not. I'm putting my wine in

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you tell me what your reaction was when

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Speaker 1: you're on the phone with them, What were your scenarios,

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Speaker 1: What were you concerned about. Where did your head go?

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Speaker 1: My head at the front desk.

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Speaker 2: My head went immediately to someone called in something fake

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Speaker 2: about us trying to say something or just create problems.

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Speaker 2: But they miscalculated because none of our children are here.

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Speaker 2: So if you're trying to throw one of us under

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Speaker 2: obviously we're just chilling here. This is the first alone

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Speaker 2: maybe even longer than that, because ant Lisa's home from college,

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Speaker 2: so she's with us NonStop. She just happened to take

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Speaker 2: so this is actually the first day since school was out.

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Speaker 2: I believe that we are alone. I mean wow. And

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Speaker 2: like the Catholic school girl in me, I will tell

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Speaker 2: you anytime a boss called me in or my even

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Speaker 2: my parents, I need to talk, I immediately think what have

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Speaker 2: I done? I'm sorry. My Catholic guilt kids kicks in immediately,

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Speaker 2: but in this moment, I was like, obviously we've done nothing,

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Speaker 2: a scan and then I'm like, oh shit, someone's out

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Speaker 2: to do as harm. That was my first reaction.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and as you told me now, my internally, we

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Speaker 1: didn't have that much time to discuss, no time to

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Speaker 1: discuss it. My first reaction to that is that I

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Speaker 1: am personally in danger. I need to immediately do everything

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Speaker 1: I can to de escalate and make this seem as

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Speaker 1: safe as an environment as possible. Because two armed police

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Speaker 1: officers are on the way to my front door under

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Speaker 1: the assumption of what kind of threat. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but I am me and she is white and blonde

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Speaker 1: am in danger. And so I was curious. And it's

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Speaker 1: so funny that way your mind thought. And we started

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Speaker 1: discussing later on, like what you were thinking that?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: I was so, I was like, why.

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Speaker 2: Did you tell me to bring my rose? I was

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Speaker 2: so confused. I was like, I don't want to be

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Speaker 2: walking up to an officer making them think that I'm

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Speaker 2: see day drinking, Like no, even though I'm in my

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Speaker 2: glass rose on a Sunday. I suddenly got freaked.

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Speaker 1: Out, and so here is And I told you this

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Speaker 1: a little bit later, Rose, What did you see me do?

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Speaker 1: I walked to the front door when you got off

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Speaker 1: the phone. I opened it wide. I grabbed my glass

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Speaker 1: and I put it at the whatever table at the front,

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Speaker 1: and I leaned against and I asked you, I said,

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Speaker 1: And the reason is I wanted them to see as

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Speaker 1: As possible. Nobody here is in danger, officer, and that

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Speaker 1: is why I swear to God, you were.

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Speaker 2: Trying to create the ambiance because we were literally in

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Speaker 2: the middle of a work meeting. We had decided we

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Speaker 2: had just come back from lunch. We're like, you know,

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Speaker 2: let's take an hour and plan out our week. Our

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Speaker 2: schedule is getting crazy, so we poured ourselves a glass

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Speaker 2: and we're having a working afternoon meeting on a Sunday,

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Speaker 2: trying to still make it feel fun like a.

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Speaker 1: Sunday, and here come the cops.

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Speaker 2: But I was like, wait, what is actually happening? And look,

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Speaker 2: you have had obviously your experiences and I've actually had

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Speaker 2: one of my own that led us to both jump

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Speaker 2: to certain conclusions.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but rogues in this moment, in this environment, it

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Speaker 1: was fascinating to see how you and I viewed it

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Speaker 1: embarrassed by they might think I'm day.

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Speaker 2: Drinking, yeah, because also, look, I've had my own experience

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Speaker 2: where that was an accusation that somehow I was a

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Speaker 2: they threw me under the bus. So I'm like, I

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Speaker 2: don't want anyone looking at me like I'm doing something wrong,

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Speaker 2: even though that's a silly notion, but I jumped to

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Speaker 2: But that's where I went.

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Speaker 1: So here's and what did they So, yes, they come

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Speaker 1: to the door. We have to know. They didn't need

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Speaker 2: It was wild the door open.

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Speaker 1: We had the front. Your dog didn't even bark. The

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Speaker 2: He actually, So the nice thing is he's this cute

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Speaker 2: little if anyone has seen my instagram, this cute little

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Speaker 2: So he comes and just casually walks up and like

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Speaker 2: sits right next to me as we're all just looking

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Speaker 2: at the officers and they're actually embarrassed. Oh yes, made

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Speaker 2: me immediately feel better the moment they walked up. They

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Speaker 2: I don't know what this phone call was that brought

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Speaker 2: laugh about because I need to understand the origins. You

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Speaker 2: think it was a mistaken apartment, but I'm nervous that someone.

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Speaker 2: Now I feel like someone has something out there, like

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Speaker 2: they're trying to do harm.

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Speaker 1: See that, and you know that I will give you,

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Speaker 1: and that is fair given all that we've experienced. But

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Speaker 1: they said they got ropes, I have it right, They said,

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Speaker 1: a fifteen to seventeen year old male. And what about

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Speaker 1: somebody wrote up with someone in the elevator. Then they

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Speaker 2: I believe what they said because they were like, whoa,

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Speaker 2: this was not the scene we were expecting. Like literally,

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Speaker 2: that is what they said.

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Speaker 1: We look like a Christmas card.

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Speaker 2: You know. We were like walking up, We're even well dressed. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we just came back from lunch. We were actually like yes,

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Speaker 2: hair makeup done, Like I look like I just came

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Speaker 2: back from a I don't know, a garden party and

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Speaker 2: a designer dog. And then my designer dog comes up

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Speaker 2: and just sits there politely and like tilts his head

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Speaker 2: and looks at the officers, and they're like, wow, this

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Speaker 2: is not what we were expecting. And so they said,

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Speaker 2: you know what, we may we may have the wrong apartment.

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Speaker 2: Can we can we.

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Speaker 1: Make a phone call now?

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Speaker 2: The woman is standing there looking at us awkwardly. He

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Speaker 2: takes a couple of steps back and he's on the phone.

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Speaker 2: He's like, are you are you sure? It's Oh, I

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Speaker 2: shouldn't have said that, damn all right anyway, and he

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Speaker 2: asks if it's the right apartment and they clear they

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Speaker 2: say yes, that's the correct apartment. And he's like talking

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Speaker 2: and we can't hear what he's saying. And he comes

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Speaker 2: back and he's like, yeah, they said that there was

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Speaker 2: a fifteen to seventeen year old man. I thought it

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Speaker 2: was coming out of your apartment and someone in the

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Speaker 2: elevator was uncomfortable, as I.

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Speaker 1: Said, And that makes no What a sense does that make?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't but why would there need to be a welfare

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Speaker 2: check out?

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Speaker 1: Blood condition of.

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Speaker 2: The person in the elevator was messed up? I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but that was confusing. We've taken the elevator. I've actually

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Speaker 2: taken it a couple of times today on my own.

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Speaker 2: I went running, I walked Brody, and then you and

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Speaker 2: I went to lunch and we came back. Every single

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Speaker 3: Just how rumors start and how people start to believe

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Speaker 1: That's fair where you're coming from there at all is fair.

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Speaker 1: I'm not challenging you in that. I never would at all.

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Speaker 1: It sucks that experience has put us in this place,

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Speaker 2: We are now on the record, on the record.

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