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Our sweet spot is logistics 16 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: roles at Express never charge job seekers a fee. Go 17 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: to expresspros dot com. Well here we are waiting for 18 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: Game three of the NBA Finals. 19 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 4: Yeah counts. Yeah, anxious waiting again. 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: I still can't get over the You know, we talked 21 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: about this last night nineteen seventy eight. It took them 22 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: eighteen days to play seven games in the NBC. 23 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 4: Pretty impressed. 24 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: You think now is tough, But eighteen days, like at 25 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: every four days they played a game. But get Sunday right, 26 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: Sunday Thursday Sunday. 27 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think would still been. 28 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, they would play on Sunday, then they would play Tuesday, 29 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: but they wouldn't know the result until Thursday because that's 30 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: they would air the game, because Tuesday night was still 31 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: like McMillan and Wife was on TV and the Rookies. 32 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 5: I did even get the yeah, uh and well, no, 33 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 5: you want to get the Streets of San Francisco in 34 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 5: on Yeah, we can't. We can't show an NBA Get 35 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 5: Car basketball game. We have a brand new Streets of 36 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 5: San Francisco to run at ten o'clock. We'll put it 37 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 5: on Thursday night when Yeah, you know what I think, 38 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 5: that's McLeod. Yeah, you know Dennis Weavers. We're not going 39 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 5: to run that show again. Yeah, we'll put it on 40 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 5: the seid of McLoud. 41 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 4: Wow, you disrespected Dennis Weaver. 42 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 5: You can don't drive by on any seventies leading man 43 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 5: of a television show. 44 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: You want a great story. I used to love McLeod. 45 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: I used to watch. My favorite part was the beginning 46 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: because the beginning of the show was just him walking 47 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: towards the camera with a flashlight and it was so 48 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: scary when. 49 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 4: I was when I was a kid, I was like, oh, 50 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 4: I was so scared. 51 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: My dad said, no, he's a good guy. He's a 52 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: good guy. He's a good guy. So I was like, oh, 53 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: then he would come and you see him at the 54 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: very end. He's got he's got the flashlight. 55 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 4: But I was so scared because here's a dark screen. 56 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: The flashlight is coming at me. And then my dad 57 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: turned it around and saying like, oh, hey, your friend 58 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: is on. Come watch your friend. And I would see 59 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: the beginning. Oh, here comes my friend. He comes McLeod 60 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: walking to the screen with a flashlight. It's my friend, 61 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: it's my friend. So McLeod went. I was scared, and 62 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: then I became his friend. 63 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 4: Did you ever write him a letter and say no? 64 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like that's my own Curious George 65 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: and the Scary Noise story. 66 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 5: That's a classic anybody with kids, grandkids, nephews, nieces, you 67 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 5: know that episode. 68 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: My dad flips be Curious George and the Scary Noise. 69 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: Padres lead the Dodgers right now for zip. As the 70 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: Dodgers bat in the top of the fifth inning, one 71 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: out Shootani is just singled to write. So the Padre's 72 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: looking to get a little bit of measure revenge l 73 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: Last night we got John Paul Morosi coming up in 74 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes for all the lands of Ange League Baseball. 75 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 4: One of those pesky bullpen games for the Dodge. Yeah, yeah, 76 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 4: you know, bullpen game. 77 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 1: Nothing takes the juice out of a game and going 78 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: and it's a bullpen game. 79 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 5: But like for this series in particular, it's like it's 80 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 5: one thing. It's like a fine it's against the Rockies. 81 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 5: Throw a full series of bullpen games and the thinks, look, 82 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 5: not that it. 83 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: Can't be excited, but when you hear bullpen game, you go, 84 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: why should I care? If that team doesn't care, clearly 85 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: because they're going a bullpen game, What the hell should 86 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: I watch? 87 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 4: If they don't care about the game. Why should I 88 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 4: care about it? 89 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 5: Because you bet the over the run total or show 90 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 5: Aotani to Homer. 91 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: The bullpen Not my fault. You'd sign eleven thousand starting 92 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: pitchers and they're all hurt. Not my fault anyway. 93 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 5: By the way, even with the bullpen game, they're really 94 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 5: waiting for Dylan Cease to turn it around and right 95 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 5: now shut out ball into the fifth. But it has 96 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 5: not been good this season in a bullpen game. It 97 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 5: was the same as last night eight and a half fronts. 98 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how it goes. 99 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: Now, two big things going into Game three of the 100 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: NBA Finals. After the first two games, I can tell 101 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: you the biggest question, the biggest. 102 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 4: Thing that's going to decide this series. Right. 103 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: You can go back and forth with a lot of 104 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: things about SGA and we talked about needing more from 105 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: Tyres Haliburton, But for me, the biggest question and the 106 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: series is this. Can the Pacers hit enough threes to 107 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: win three more times? Can they shoot forty five fifty 108 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: from three point range to win three more times? That's 109 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: the series. That's how the Pacers beat the Knicks, It's 110 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: how they won against the Cavaliers. It's how they come 111 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: back at the end of games because all five guys 112 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: on the floor, no matter who's out there, all five 113 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: of them can hit threes. And you saw in Game 114 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: one they hit their threes. In Game two they did not. 115 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: Can they hit their threes three more times to win? 116 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: That's the game. Not Oklahoma City's bench, which was great 117 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: in the last game. And Alex Caruso every time he 118 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: plays well, Twitter is all rife with Remember when the 119 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: Lakers at alex Caruso and they let go him because 120 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: they wanted to make sure Taylor Horton Tucker was signed 121 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: to a contract. 122 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 4: Those are the days, right. 123 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: It's not limiting SGA and getting Gildess Alexander to be 124 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: able to be a facilitator and not score thirty eight points. 125 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: It's not Halliburton being uneven because clearly the Pacers have 126 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: shown you that, hey, even in some uneven games they 127 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: can win with halliburtn all that stuff is gonna suss 128 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: itself out here and there. But it's but if Indiana 129 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: it's fifty percent from three point, If they can hit 130 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: threes like they did against the Knicks, like they did 131 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: in Game one, they'll win the series. If they can't 132 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: do that three more times, they'll lose. 133 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 4: It's real. 134 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: No matter how you each team can overcome the other 135 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: teams shutting down their best players or a little bit 136 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: of strategy here and there. Right, But that's the game 137 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: for me. If the Pacers can hit those threes, they'll win. 138 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: If they can't, the thunder gonna win. Can the Pacers 139 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: do it? And if you can answer that, whatever your 140 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: answer is to that question, that tells you who's gonna 141 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: win the series? 142 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 4: Yahay? 143 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 5: We go back to Game one and the number of 144 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 5: turnovers in the first half. Great transition defense by the 145 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 5: Pacers neutralize their ineffectiveness and shoddy play for that first 146 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 5: half and kept them hanging around. And we know there's 147 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 5: always going to be a run the college basketball, professional basketball, 148 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 5: unless it's a full pack up the shop and let's 149 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 5: go home kind of game, that you're gonna get a 150 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 5: run in the third or early in the fourth to 151 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 5: put you back in striking distance. Particularly again, as you say, 152 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 5: you hit three point shots forty six percent in the 153 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 5: first game, thirty five percent in the second, fifteen turnovers 154 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 5: in the second game, where the Thunder actually took advantage 155 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 5: of them more frequently than they were able to in 156 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 5: Game one. Right, Remember all those was at eighteen, nineteen 157 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 5: or twenty, depending on which box score and source you 158 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 5: were looking at. But nine points off turnovers, all right, 159 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 5: that's a great transition defense. 160 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 4: Is that sustainable for a full series as well? 161 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 5: No, that's not so taking care of the basketball and 162 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 5: actually limiting those opportunities, because what did Sga do with 163 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 5: the ball in the second game? He went to the rack? Right, 164 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 5: Like we've talked about a lot. You know, when you 165 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 5: talk about Halibert, you talk about Anthony Edwards, you talk 166 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 5: about different players along the way of I know that 167 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 5: when the chips are down, this guy's going to go 168 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 5: try to make something happen. He's going to make a 169 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 5: circus shot or two as he takes some contact. Oh wait, 170 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 5: after he initiates contact but gets the file call. 171 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 4: Look, it works. I can't fault a good strategy. 172 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 5: Be mad if you want actually shooting fewer free throws 173 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 5: this year than he did the last two. But the 174 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 5: point just being that, you know they have their stopper 175 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 5: for the pacers, they need Obi Toppin to hit three 176 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 5: point shots. They need bank shot three pointers from Miles 177 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 5: Turner or for Pascal Siakam to get into a flow 178 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 5: of some bench scoring as well. 179 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 4: But overall, what do we We've. 180 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 5: Seen them lead for a total of two minutes, right, 181 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 5: and for all the runs, for all the excitement, and 182 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 5: obviously Game one they came and stole it, the big 183 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 5: Haliburton shot, which it had you in in post traumatic 184 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 5: stress disorder, and they. 185 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 4: Did it again. 186 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 5: That guy did it again, and then you you talked 187 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 5: about the Knicks, but it's the idea that I just 188 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 5: don't think they can compete. 189 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: It's yeah, But that's the thing is the threes will 190 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: make up for that, and they can wind up. They 191 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: can wind up. Hey you're down by seven, you're down 192 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: by ten, you're down by twelve. But you know what, 193 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: everybody can't guard everybody, and if you can hit your 194 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: three like that, that's the weapon. 195 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 4: That's why the Pacers are where they are. 196 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: How many time any other team gets down like that, 197 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: it's over because hey, when you're down that big one 198 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: or two guys that threes on your team to give 199 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: the ball. They're not gonna make all of them. You 200 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: can guard a couple of guys. But that's the Pacers. 201 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: That's what makes them so special is all five players 202 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: on the floor. 203 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 4: We talked about it with Rick Beeker. 204 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 5: Right where their floor in terms of three point percentage 205 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 5: make is the ceiling for what the thunder do. Right, 206 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 5: So now you get to operational efficiency and the defense, 207 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 5: and really it's the are you going to commit to 208 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 5: forty eight minutes of closing out guys and open shooters 209 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 5: because that's one thing that look, you have to continue 210 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 5: to lament what the Knicks were unable to do. Was Wow, 211 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 5: even just a little bit of a hand in the 212 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 5: face is going to make that much bigger difference. And 213 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 5: what the Thunder can do is make that happen so 214 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 5: consistency on that side, I'm curious going back to Indiana, 215 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 5: what we get in game three tomorrow. 216 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, look, and. 217 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: That's the thing, right, is that now after seeing the 218 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: first two games, it's going to be great for basketball 219 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: fans everywhere because now after seeing this, this series is 220 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: going to go seven, right because because look at you, 221 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: it feels like it's go sweels like what I well, 222 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: I still I said Oklahoma City in five before the series, 223 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: but seeing the first two games, one of the two games, 224 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: Indiana will hit their threes enough, one of the games, 225 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City's defense is gonna slow them down. Because Oklahoma 226 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: City is the best team in the NBA. Oklahoma City 227 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: is gonna get one of those great all around SJA 228 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: efforts to win a game. Then it looks like it's 229 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: gonna be home, home and home, and I expect the 230 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: home team to win. You know, when you go, you 231 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: go five to six to seven. I don't know if 232 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: either team can impose their will on the other definitively 233 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: over the next three or four games. Right, Because I've 234 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: seen times where it looks like the thunder able to 235 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: impose their will. I've seen times where it looks like 236 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: the Pacers, really you're controlling the play and Halliburton's controlling 237 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: things and the guys are open for threes. I have 238 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: seen that. I don't know that. Look, Indiana's bench is 239 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: gonna play better at home, right, you had Oklahoma City's 240 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: bench played great in game two. But Indiana's bench is 241 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: gonna play really well at home. Probably Matheren will score 242 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: like thirty five points in eight minutes. But Oklahoma City's 243 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: gonna adjust, They're gonna defense, and it's gonna be a 244 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: game to game thing. It's not gonna be where Hey, 245 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City Pacers won that first game. Oklahoma Cities figure 246 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: things out. Now they boat race them the next few nights. Right, 247 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: Here's Pacers now have home court advantage. They're gonna get 248 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: the foul calls at home. It's gonna be an extend. 249 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: It's gonna be an extending, extending the series. It'll be 250 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: a daily dance between these two teams. And if I, 251 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: if I thought and look, can the Pacers do enough 252 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: to slow down the thunder and take like three that. No, 253 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen either. But game to game you're 254 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: gonna see things change. You're gonna see one game the 255 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: Pacers did this, the next game, Oklahoma City is going 256 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: to adjust. The next game, Oklahoma City will do this, 257 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: the Pacers will adjust it. Just it just smells to 258 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: me that now after seeing the first two games, that 259 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: it's going to go seven. I get that, Oh, Indiana escape, 260 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: there should be two nothing Oklahoma City. But guess what 261 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: it's not. And the Pacers are going home and they're 262 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: jacked up, and their bench is gonna play great. So yeah, 263 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: this this series, I think is gonna be tied going 264 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: into Game five. 265 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 5: Other bench is what gave them the win in Game one, 266 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 5: for all the Halliburton shot, yeah, and topping with his 267 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 5: seventeen up, they scored thirty nine points off the bench. 268 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, in that Game one. 269 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: I wish I could say, Hey, I feel like it's 270 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: still gonna go the way I said, but it really 271 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: now each team it's gonna be gained a game punch 272 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: counter punch. We're gonna be able to neutralize what you 273 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: did the last game by doing our thing. Then the 274 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: one team will neutralize the other. This is gonna go seven. 275 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: And I'm seeing the split and I'm seeing home home 276 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: home in Oklahoma City. Is that from the home office 277 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: of Adam Silver? 278 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 4: That is it? 279 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 3: Yes? 280 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 4: Yes, that's what and what damn it? They're gonna care Yeah, 281 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 4: going seven And now Tony Brothers. 282 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: Just wait, Brothers, the new Extender, Tony Brothers, the new Extenders. 283 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: Can't call Scott Foster anymore. 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A man who's on the showcase 341 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: Game of the Week for MLB Network on Thursday, the 342 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: Royals hosting the second best team in New York, the 343 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: New York Yankees. Wow, he's with us now. He's on 344 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: Twitter at John Morosi. He is MLB Network insider extraordinaire 345 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: and co host of Stearnsy and the Pope Morning Show 346 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: with his former college roommate, Met's President of Baseball Operations, 347 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: David Stearns. 348 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 4: It is John Paul Morosi. What's happening, Bud? How are you? 349 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: I am outstanding? I can exclusively report to you that 350 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 3: here at my home in Michigan, the home run that 351 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 3: Aaron Judge hit just landed beside me. Oh got a 352 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 3: second ago, Because here's the thing. Major League players are 353 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 3: used to seeing extraordinary things. They do it every day, 354 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 3: and the many of them author extraordinary things every day. 355 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 3: The errand Judge home run that was hit tonight in 356 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: Kansas City. If you look at the reaction in the 357 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: Yankee dugout, it was even by Judge and standards, something 358 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 3: cruely out of this world, out of the ballpark, out 359 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: of the state, as far as I'm concerned, landed. 360 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 5: On my front lawn. 361 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 3: It was that kind of a home run. To be honest, 362 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 3: it felt like four sixty nine was an underestimate of 363 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 3: exactly how far that ball went. And again it seemed 364 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 3: like the momentum. Hopefully the Royals don't have to do 365 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: repairs on the Hall of Fame that they've gotten left 366 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 3: field because they seemed to crash right into the windows 367 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: of that. It was just an absolutely titanic shot. And listen, 368 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 3: the Yankees and Aaron Judge. I mean, it's gonna be 369 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: a fun storyline. We've got that game on Thursday, and 370 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 3: MLB Network, You've got Judge, You've got with It's gonna 371 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 3: be a lot of fun to watch them both play. 372 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: But what Aaron Judge is doing right now, guys, it's 373 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: just difficult to describe in any sort of normal terminology. 374 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: Now, so we're here and getting into the middle of June, 375 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: and here's Judge today, two for five, he's hitting three 376 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: ninety six. Give me the percentage chance you think that 377 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: he can make a run at hitting four hundred this. 378 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 2: Year, I'll make it one out. 379 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: We're talking about it throughout the summer into September, like, hey, 380 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: he's a percentage he can make a run at four hundred. 381 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: I think he can. It's it's right there. I'm gonna 382 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 3: say better than fifty percent. I'm gonna say fifty five, 383 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: forty five. I'm not gonna say that he's going to 384 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 3: finish it at four hundred and predict that, because that 385 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 3: is really hard to do. But what he's able to 386 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 3: do even without necessarily getting a ton of infield singles, 387 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 3: let's say it's just the damage is so great. And listen, 388 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 3: the game has changed a bit with the shift not 389 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 3: being in play, and not that the shift really matters 390 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 3: that much for him, because he usually hits the ball 391 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 3: over the infielders. That tends to be what he's doing, 392 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 3: and off and over the outfielders too. But he is 393 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 3: in a spot where I just have never seen a 394 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 3: player from a power hitting perspective. This locked in in 395 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 3: the last probably twenty five years, and it is remarkable 396 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 3: to watch it on a consistent basis. And if there 397 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 3: was going to be a sort of diminishment of his numbers, 398 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 3: and if there was a regression to the mean, if 399 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 3: you will, I think it would have happened by now. 400 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: His performance is the mean. This is his mean right 401 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 3: right now? 402 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 4: This is it. 403 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: And again he's upper in the three nineties, he's in 404 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 3: his walks, and I think probably the most impressive thing too, 405 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 3: is that. And again we could talk about which order 406 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 3: they are hitting in Soto, Judge, but Soto's absence has 407 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 3: not impacted him at all. And I think that is 408 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 3: that is a really really impressive statement to make. That 409 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 3: when you have a player of Sodo's caliber no longer 410 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 3: in your lineup, it does change how people get pitched to. 411 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 3: And with Judge, there's just there's no impact on his numbers, 412 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: which says a lot about him as a person and 413 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 3: a professional. 414 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 5: All Right, So let's grab him and a guy who's 415 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 5: been photoshopped in the Yankee uniforms since his debut a 416 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 5: year ago, and that's Paul Skeins. Last year eleven and three. 417 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 5: This year he's four and six. But every other metric 418 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 5: is the same. What's more likely, Judge, it's four hundred 419 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 5: or he creates a new win regular season record for 420 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 5: himself by winning twelve games. 421 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 3: That's a great question Fall Schemes. As you're pointing out, 422 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 3: it's not it's not easy to win games when you're 423 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: starting with Pittsburgh Parky. No, it's just not it's just 424 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 3: not uh. I think there's actually a better chance of 425 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 3: Judge hitting four hundred. I really do. 426 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 2: I love but this is this is. 427 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 3: Not his this Let's put it this way. As long 428 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 3: as Schemes is wearing the black and gold of the 429 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 3: Bucos and as long as they're in their current lack 430 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 3: of competitiveness, wins will not be the stat in which 431 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 3: Schemes is a dominant pitcher in. He's going to be 432 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 3: really good in that, in that by those standards, in that, 433 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 3: in that category, but just not not the league wide. 434 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 3: He's just I think double digit win seasons. It's just 435 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 3: crazy to say it, but that's just where the Pirates 436 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 3: are right now. He's still great, he still is going 437 00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 3: to be an All Star, He's still going to be 438 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 3: a prepared, actual Die Young candidate, and there'll be the 439 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 3: eighth for Team USAT the WBC. All those things are true. 440 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 3: But he might have a losing record when the season 441 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 3: is done, and that is a that is an indictment 442 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: of where the Pirates are right now. 443 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 4: I'm just in now. 444 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: John Paul hond is picturing you on MLB Network tomorrow 445 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: with Lauren Shahati in the big box with your head 446 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: is really huge saying and her saying to you, did 447 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: you really say, Aaron Judge, cant it four hundred more 448 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: than Paul Paul Skeins can win twelve games? You're gonna say, yes, Yes, 449 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: I did, Yes, I did. I can see that happening tomorrow. 450 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 3: I guys, I mean that's the numbers. Say right now, yeah, 451 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,479 Speaker 3: look at look at where again schemes were about halfway 452 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 3: through the year. It's just my goodness, we have to 453 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 3: go go through and actually look at the statistical likelihood 454 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 3: that a pitcher would have an ERA under two with 455 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 3: by the end, they'll probably pitch one hundred and seventy innings. 456 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 3: So a sub to eer one hundred and seventy innings, 457 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 3: what's the lowest number of wins? And I'm probably I'm 458 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 3: not going to look this up necessarily, right, I mean, 459 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 3: maybe I will while you're asking the next question. I'll 460 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 3: look this up. I cannot I cannot imagine that it's 461 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 3: that this number is. I mean, how many guys could 462 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 3: have possibly had an ERA under two with one hundred 463 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 3: and seventy innings and one fewer than ten games. We're 464 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 3: about to find out, literally, as you asked me, this question. 465 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 3: I'm going to work on this as as we're talking 466 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 3: right now. It is a that's that is where that 467 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 3: is where the pirates and schemes are right now, all 468 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 3: right now. 469 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: So speaking of pitchers, you know, look, we watched sho 470 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: Heyotani warm up during the playoffs last year, thinking, Okay, 471 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: he's throwing because he's going to pitch in the playoffs. 472 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 4: No, no, we still haven't seen him. 473 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: But Dave Roberts said there is a north of zero 474 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: chance that he pitches before the All Star break, meaning 475 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: it's not zero. North of zero, could be ninety percent, 476 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: it could be fifty percent, it could be ten percent, 477 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: it could be five percent, but north of zero, which 478 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: tells me that Otani potentially is on the way back. 479 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: What are you hearing is it? Is this feasible? Could 480 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: we see Otani pitch before the All Star break? 481 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 3: It's feasible. And I think that why it's feasible is 482 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 3: that the Dodgers have certainly let him They I'm not 483 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 3: saying that they've had him take too much time, but 484 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: they've been very deliberate about the pace of all this, 485 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: and I think part of it is that just that 486 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: they didn't want to have him dedicated completely to the 487 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 3: pitching side of things, because obviously he's their DH So 488 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 3: I think that they have been monitoring this very very carefully. 489 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 3: They have been They have been overly careful to this point. 490 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 3: The reason why I think that the that this has 491 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 3: come up, and I think it's entirely appropriate by the 492 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 3: way that it has, is that the Dodgers need him 493 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 3: right now. Show is probably on a faster track to 494 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 3: coming back than Glass is and then Snell is. So 495 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: as long as that's the case, as long as Show 496 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 3: is ahead of them, then basically it's kind of his turn. 497 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 3: The Dodgers have had so many issues with pitchers who 498 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: have been hurt. They've come back, they've gone back on 499 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 3: the eye olt. The need, the acute need for the 500 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 3: Dodgers is today, is this week, is next week, is 501 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 3: certainly early July, let's say, and tonight's Tonight's game is 502 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 3: a perfect example. The Dodgers do not currently have the 503 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 3: pitching depth to be able to chase wins on consecutive 504 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 3: days every time. Because of where of where their depth is, 505 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 3: they just don't have the innings to be covered. They 506 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 3: cannot bring in their a bullpen all the time. Guys 507 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 3: like Dryer and Casparri's are too valuable for them in 508 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 3: the bullpen to put in starting roles. It seems on 509 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 3: a consistent basis they're stuck and the reality is one 510 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 3: of the best and not as we can't expect him, 511 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 3: by the way, to come back and pitch like Paul scheme. 512 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 3: But he's going to be a well above average starting 513 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 3: pitcher because that's what he's been throughout his career and 514 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: the need for him is now. He seems to be, 515 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 3: by all accounts, a very healthy player. We see him 516 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 3: swinging it all the time. I think that he's I'm 517 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 3: with Dave Roberts there, and I think that that's maybe 518 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 3: Dave Roberts's way of sort of communicating to the organization 519 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 3: this is the time that we need show a and 520 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 3: I think that it's the right thing for the manager 521 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 3: to say, and it may just happen right around the 522 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 3: All Star Game that Oltani is back on the mouth. 523 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 5: Jason Smith Show with Me, Mike Carmon here from the 524 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio studios on the Hotline with us MLB Network, 525 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 5: Our Superstars, our guy, John Paul Morosi at John Morosi, 526 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 5: leave out the age because as he said a couple 527 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 5: of weeks ago. Literally, Mom said, so j O n 528 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 5: mr Osi, did you get the answer? Because I think 529 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 5: I had the answer. I had a guess, and I 530 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 5: think it's been confirmed. 531 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 3: Oh on the the sub umber. 532 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 5: Two e er with at least one hundred and seventy innings, 533 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 5: pitch Jacob, Is it Jacob? 534 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 4: No, Well there's another guy that from nineteen oh two. 535 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 3: Yes, I actually the year that I found was nineteen 536 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 3: oh four, the great ned Garvin. Oh even ned Garvine. 537 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 3: But but the lowest in the let's see, yes, in 538 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 3: the divisional era, the lowest win total of any pitcher 539 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 3: with one hundred and seventy plus innings and a sub 540 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 3: to e ra is it's a tie for Bobby Bolin 541 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 3: of the nineteen sixty eight Giants in Divisional era, Tommy 542 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 3: John Okay eight White Sox, and Jacob de gram twenty 543 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 3: eighteen Mets, all with ten with men win. 544 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 5: It fed be a guy named Ed Seaver with the 545 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 5: Tigers in nineteen oh two. Wow, head all the way down. Yes, 546 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 5: yea Tom Severs great great grandfather. All right, so, Jen, 547 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 5: b let me ask you Roman Anthony the latest guy 548 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 5: to get called up and Boston the White Sox had 549 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 5: their starter tonight. He's the eighth guy to make his 550 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 5: major league debut. Is it just me or does it 551 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 5: seem like we're just seeing this conga line of young 552 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 5: call ups a lot earlier than we used to. 553 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 3: We are, and I think that it's for a couple 554 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 3: of reasons. I'll mention a few number one hitters now 555 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 3: have seen through their showcase careers more pitches, more at 556 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 3: bats than basically any other previous generation of hitters they 557 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 3: play that now. They may not be organized games all 558 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 3: the time, but they see a lot of pitching, a 559 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 3: lot a ton of pitching, So the hitters are in 560 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 3: many ways better prepared. Similarly, on the pitching side, you 561 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 3: don't know what they're going to break down, so you better. 562 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 3: Their innings are more valuable to you in the Major 563 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 3: League they are in Double A. That's so I think 564 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 3: that there's an incentive, based on the reality of the 565 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 3: game to promote the players. We also see this that 566 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 3: because of the the trade market, teams are very reluctant 567 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 3: to give up their their best prospects in trades. So 568 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 3: if you're not going to trade them, you might as 569 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 3: well play them. You might as well promote them and 570 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 3: having part of your major league team. And I think 571 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 3: also you've got a lot of teams that are trying 572 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 3: to be mindful of their budget, and often the least 573 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 3: expensive big change you can make to your to your 574 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,479 Speaker 3: club is to promote them within they're going to make 575 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 3: the major league minimum. So I think that for a 576 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 3: lot of reasons, financial and competitive, and that's what we're 577 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 3: seeing seeing teams do, and I expect it's going to continue. 578 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 3: It's just this is the way of the modern game. 579 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 3: And you may even start seeing some guys that started 580 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 3: the season at Double A that are that are coming 581 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 3: up quickly. And Anthony Long deserved its call up. I'm 582 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 3: glad he got it. It's kind of a youth movement 583 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 3: in Boston. But the point I'll make on the American 584 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 3: League right now, in general, there's a lot of teams 585 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: that are flawed. There's a lot of teams that are 586 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 3: that have good enough team, good enough rosters to make 587 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 3: a playoff run to where the American League is anybody's league. 588 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: I think in the NL, I said a pel last week, 589 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 3: I think Jason the Mets is the best team I've seen. 590 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 3: They really are. Yeah, And so I think that the 591 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 3: NL is a little more top heavy the American League 592 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 3: is anybody's guess, and you might see a central team, 593 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 3: an American League central team in the World Series for 594 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 3: what would be the first time since twenty sixteen with Cleveland. 595 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 3: So I think we could be headed for one of 596 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 3: those Midwest Baseball kind of a World Series. 597 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 5: JP, you might as well have just drop the bar 598 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 5: gold in front of this guy. His eyes glazed over 599 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 5: and it was the biggest smile I've ever seen. 600 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 4: Please tell me something I know. Yeah, I know we 601 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 4: the best team in the NATS. I know, I know 602 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 4: they are. 603 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 3: They are. That's my in my belief based on what 604 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 3: I have seen, they're the best teams. 605 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 4: Now, two things before we let you go. 606 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: Number One, I need you to reach out to David 607 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: Stearns like I did a month ago, and say, remind 608 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: every passing day that Alonzo contract gets more and more expensive. 609 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 4: Okay, just everydyn. 610 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 3: Pete, don Pete to get it done. Now, you got it. 611 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: Second thing is John Paul I forget with all these 612 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: guys coming up, what's the name of that rookie in 613 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: Kansas City You're gonna get to see Thursday in the showcase. 614 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 4: How do you say his name? I have a tough 615 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 4: to how do you pronounce his name? 616 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 3: Gle glean, But we're gonna we're gonna work on that. 617 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 3: It's to the anglophone here. It's how they've been saying it. 618 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 4: Yeah no, but that's that's not as good as how 619 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 4: you say it. 620 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 3: That's that's not fun. The fun way, the fun way, 621 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 3: the correct way. Glean and by the way, we uh we. 622 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 3: Italy finally won a soccer match of consequence yesterday over 623 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 3: over the formidable side from Moldova in World Cup qualifying 624 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 3: so to nil. But the but the manager Spaetti was 625 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 3: he was fired over the weekend, so we've got a 626 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 3: new new beginning. We need to find who that new 627 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 3: manager is going to because we cannot miss the World 628 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 3: Cup for a third straight cycle. That would not be acceptable. 629 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 3: So I'm I'm counting on the suit we to find 630 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: their way to to get back in the big dance. 631 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: After tonight, I'll give you a Pochettino free, absolutely free, well, 632 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: absolutely free. 633 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 4: You can have. 634 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 3: We might he has an Italian surname and uh and 635 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 3: and he probably would be able to find a way 636 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 3: to to lead lead Italy to the qualifying But but again, uh, 637 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 3: the US. I got two teams, and I'm not terribly 638 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 3: thrilled about either one of them right now. So that's 639 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 3: that's where that's where I'm at. I don't get to 640 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 3: be a fan of many things, but world soccer I am, 641 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 3: and right now being a fan of my two teams 642 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 3: is not a ton of fun. So I've gotta we've 643 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 3: got to work on that good thing. I'm trying to 644 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 3: build the ambassador role there between the US and Italy 645 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 3: and find a way to somehow cobble together a team 646 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 3: release of Italian Americans that can maybe score some goals. 647 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 4: He's on Twitter at John Morose. You check him out. 648 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: Thursday MLB Network Showcase Game of the Week Yankees, Royals, 649 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: John Paul is always buddy, I have a great one. 650 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 4: We'll talk to you. 651 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 3: Really good, the conversations always my friend. Thank you so 652 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 3: much and looking forward to the next one. 653 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: See your body, take care stuff, have a good call. 654 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: Time now to find out what's trending in the wide 655 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: world of sports. But guy who's been called the Greg 656 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: burhol to a Fox Sports radio because he also watched 657 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: the US men's team play tonight and left it's Steve Disager. 658 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 4: Don't you dare even bring up that name. Yeah. 659 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 6: US men's soccer did lose four nothing to Switzerland and 660 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 6: an exhibition in Nashville tonight, the US officially with no 661 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 6: shots on goal and according to stat saying, this has 662 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 6: never happened ever before in a US men's home game, 663 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 6: to be giving up four goals by the four twentieth 664 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 6: minute of a game. And you talked about the Dodger 665 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 6: pitching rotation such as it is. It's an all bullpen 666 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 6: game tonight, and in San Diego it's now padre seven 667 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 6: nothing over La in the bottom of the sixth. The 668 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 6: two Dodger pitchers so far tonight Lou Trevino and Matt Sower. 669 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 6: Sower was literally just recalled for this assignment today, his 670 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 6: fourth stint. 671 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 4: With the Dodgers. 672 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 6: Last year his major league debut season as a Kansas 673 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 6: City Royal, his ERA was over seven. But things get 674 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 6: better in the rotation tomorrow, Right tomorrow afternoon in San Diego, 675 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 6: the Dodger starter will be Justin Robleski era over seven 676 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 6: in the majors. Well, believe it or not, the Colorado Rockies, 677 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 6: with a record of twelve and fifty three. We're going 678 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 6: to the ninth inning with a home lead over the 679 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 6: San Francisco Giants, who have won five in a row. 680 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 6: The Giants have just scored four in the top of 681 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 6: the ninth. 682 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 4: Take one strikeaway Stevo. 683 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 6: Six five the lead at Colorado with two outs in 684 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 6: the bottom of the ninth. In other words, the Giants 685 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 6: are on the verge of a franchise record six straight 686 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 6: win when each of the six is by exactly one run. 687 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 6: The last team to do that in the Majors, apparently 688 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 6: the nineteen eighty eight Angels. 689 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 4: Six to five. 690 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 6: Giants lead Late in the contest, it's the Diamondbacks four 691 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 6: to two over the Mariners, bottom of the six. A's 692 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 6: lead in Anaheim one nothing against the Angels top of 693 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 6: the eighth, White Sox and Brewers each one. Toronto a 694 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 6: ten to nine winner at Saint Louis. Texas won sixteen 695 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 6: to four at Minnesota Aaron Judge with his twenty fourth homer. 696 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 6: Yankees won ten to two at Kansas City. Max Freed 697 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 6: now nine to one. Mets came back for a ten 698 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 6: inning win over Washington five to four. Cincinnati won it's 699 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 6: fifth straight one nothing at Cleveland, A complete game three 700 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 6: hitter for Andrew Abbott who's six and one Detroit and 701 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 6: the Cubs with road wins. 702 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: Back to you, Thank you, Steve O, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon, 703 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 1: lot from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Who coming up next? 704 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: We have a new story hot off the press. I 705 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,959 Speaker 1: can tell you who will not be the next head 706 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,280 Speaker 1: coach of the New York Knicks. 707 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 5: Who? 708 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 2: I can tell you what? 709 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: Two people will not be the next head coach of 710 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: the Knicks? 711 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 5: Are they going into the tag team division of the WWE? 712 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 4: It is Mike Rotundo and Berry Windham. Nicely done, Irs. 713 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 4: That's coming up next Jason and Mike Fox. But it 714 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 4: still could be Doc Rivers. Stop stop, maybe it's not. 715 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith 716 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven 717 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 2: pm Pacific. 718 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best 719 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: friend Mike Harmon. Keith k Yo u yes, keithk Hernandez 720 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: into pitch for the Dodgers in the sixth inning as 721 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: the Padres leave the Dodgers nine to nothing. 722 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 5: This is the equivalent of that NBA game that you 723 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 5: always talk about of Hey, it's the second minute of 724 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 5: the second quarter. Why's that guy got giant ice bags 725 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 5: on his knees? 726 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: Keyk is in in the sixth inning of a bullpen 727 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: game for the Dodgers, sixth inning, the sixth. 728 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 4: This would be the definition of a bullpen game, wouldn't 729 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 4: it be? That's true? That is true. I mean, if 730 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 4: you're if. 731 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 5: You're going to lean in, I mean, this is the 732 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 5: if you're going to fire a coach eventually and you 733 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 5: know what's happening, get rid of him here if you 734 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 5: know it's game is done and you don't care and. 735 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 4: Take the l he k hernand is sixth inning. 736 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: Now, hold on to your hats, because here's the topic 737 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: that's going to take us through the next half hour 738 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:31,959 Speaker 1: here on the show. According to Shamsterrania of ESPN, this 739 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: story is is about fifteen minutes old right now with 740 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: an update on it. 741 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 4: The New York. 742 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: Knicks requested permission to speak to t Wolves head coach 743 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: Chris Finch. Chris Finch, Chris Finch, what about Miles Finch? 744 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: Miles Finch, Miles Finch had all the ideas then notebooks 745 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: that we can do. 746 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 5: It's like the notebook, almost like Henry Winkler's notebook in the. 747 00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 4: Peaches are vulnerable. Okay, I don't know how to execute to. 748 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: The Knicks requested permission to speak to t Wolves head 749 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: coach Chris Finch and Rockets head coach Emeo Udoka for 750 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: their head coaching job. 751 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 4: Number Mark Stein talked about this a week ago. The 752 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 4: two names he heard. 753 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: Was Jason and Udoka, So they want to talk to 754 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: Chris Finch and Udoka. However, were denied on both, so 755 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: both the t Wolves and the Rockets said, no, We're 756 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: not going to allow you permission to talk to these 757 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: guys to be our new head coach. Okay, what about 758 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: Jason Kidd? Glad you asked? The follow up to this 759 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: by Sean's just. 760 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,240 Speaker 4: Four minutes ago. 761 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: The Knicks have not requested permission for Mavericks coach Jason 762 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: Kidd as of Tuesday Night Tummies, but sources tell ESPN 763 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: that the Mavericks would reject them. So they asked for 764 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: Chris Finch and Udoka. We're told no, they have not 765 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: asked about Jason Kidd, but sources tell ESPN the Mavericks 766 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: would reject them. So it looks like maybe now the 767 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: Knicks A Knicks are now, oh for three with guys 768 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: and they have they haven't even they can't even get 769 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: guys in the interview because the guys are going for 770 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: guys that have jobs. 771 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 4: But well, but that's just right. 772 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 5: When's the best time to look for a job now 773 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 5: when you have one? But the thing is, they've got 774 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 5: to let you out. 775 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: I mean that, look it. This is where things get 776 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: really weird for the Knicks. But let me just say 777 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: the first thing. What did I say was the number 778 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: one guarantee I gave you after the Knicks fire tips 779 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: every grade? 780 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 4: Right, No, stop, don't don't. You can't say that name. 781 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 4: You can't say that name on the show. 782 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: You're not show. You can't say it on the show. 783 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: Dump it tight shirt, dump it, dump him saying that name. 784 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: Don't say that he talk to ours? 785 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 5: What hours of doc rivers, quotes and quips and impersonations. 786 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: I hate to say I told you so, But what 787 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,240 Speaker 1: did I tell you the minute they fired TIBs? 788 00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 4: What was going to happen? 789 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: There was gonna be a new name every day connected 790 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 1: to the Knicks. Now, the last night you started your 791 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: Jason Kidd not interviewed. Not well, because Jason Kid, they 792 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: still haven't talked to him. They still have requests. Will 793 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: haven't talked to him yet. I said quest there was 794 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 1: going to be a new name every day because the 795 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: Knicks we're going to enjoy this period of we are 796 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: a destination and we're gonna go big game honting. Right, 797 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: So what did we get? We got Jason Kidd right 798 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: all right? 799 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 3: Right? 800 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: We had we had Rick Patino right away, then we 801 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: had Jay Wright, then we had Jason Kidd, and now 802 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: we have Chris Finch and Udoka. Right now, we've got 803 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,919 Speaker 1: five coaches in the last five or six days since 804 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,919 Speaker 1: I said we're gonna get a new name every day 805 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: to keep the Knicks in the conversation. That's five guys 806 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: in the last five or six days that we've heard, 807 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 1: and I'm sure there will be two more tomorrow. Hey, 808 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: the Knicks could also reach out to Steve Kerr, but 809 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: they have not done that yet. But they'll be told 810 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: no by the Golden See. 811 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 5: So I could be an insider by just saying this, right, 812 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 5: I told you we've been doing this for the last 813 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 5: week plus of Well, they should talk to this they 814 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 5: So can I just do that? 815 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 4: Yeah? 816 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,760 Speaker 5: Of course, call myself an insider. And get the paycheck 817 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 5: commentary with insider Insider. You know, I hear things from 818 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 5: the guy with the place. 819 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 1: You'd have to sell advertising on Twitter. That's the way 820 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 1: you can't just get not just gonna fork over money 821 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: to you. It's not gonna, I mean, someone will. I'm 822 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: a powerful and attractive. 823 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 4: Bank, but lean and mean. 824 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 5: Okay, I think kind of funny, I would, I would 825 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,320 Speaker 5: I make interesting conversation points about sports things. 826 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 4: I think. 827 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: I think try try Twitter first, see if you can 828 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: monetize that, you know, and then then then go from 829 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 1: there monetizing weird space. 830 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it is. Jake got to make it work. 831 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: Man. 832 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 4: It's a wild West. I got to West like n 833 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 4: AL and college sports. So here is what is going 834 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 4: on right now. 835 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 1: The Knicks tried to get permission for Chris Finch and 836 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: email Doka. We're told no, they have not requested permission 837 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: to Jason Kidd, but sources tell esp and the Mavericks 838 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: would reject them. 839 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 4: Dark Rivers coming up next. 840 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,919 Speaker 1: We break this down, and I tell you, if they're 841 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: going down this road, who's the next team they should 842 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 1: call for permission and do it now. 843 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 4: That's next. 844 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 3: Fox