1
00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,440
Speaker 1: Grats. You know what I forgot to say yesterday to a.

2
00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,879
Speaker 2: J Happy New Year. You know, I'm okay with it

3
00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:11,320
Speaker 2: right now.

4
00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,920
Speaker 3: It's still okay because you know what, I was gone

5
00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:19,959
Speaker 3: for a while, Okay, so now you know it hasn't

6
00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,360
Speaker 3: really hit me yet. You have to the end of

7
00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,400
Speaker 3: the week, so get all your happy New Year's in them.

8
00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:24,639
Speaker 3: After Friday, it's all.

9
00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:25,680
Speaker 1: Over of the week.

10
00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:27,760
Speaker 3: I'll give you the end of the week because there's

11
00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,720
Speaker 3: people I haven't seen. I'm still jet lagged. No, I

12
00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,520
Speaker 3: don't really gidget like j N. I can sleep anywhere. Huh.

13
00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,040
Speaker 1: We're good till January ninth.

14
00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I didn't get back till the fourth, so

15
00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:41,560
Speaker 3: you see.

16
00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,559
Speaker 4: The fifth Monday, yesterday was the first day for some

17
00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,040
Speaker 4: were Friday.

18
00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,159
Speaker 3: And I haven't seen everybody, and I haven't talked to

19
00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,040
Speaker 3: a lot of people. So now I'm running into people

20
00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,720
Speaker 3: that I hadn't seen. So now it's still Hey, Happy

21
00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,960
Speaker 3: New Year. I hope your New Year's going well. I

22
00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,560
Speaker 3: hope you had good holidays, Merry Christmas, all that stuff.

23
00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,400
Speaker 5: Let's rewind the tape. Let's rewind the tape and see

24
00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,360
Speaker 5: if twenty twenty five AJ was feeling the same way

25
00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,839
Speaker 5: Tanzania might have all that all that elevation change.

26
00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:09,520
Speaker 3: I think might have.

27
00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:12,360
Speaker 2: Loosened you up a little bit.

28
00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,440
Speaker 3: I'll just think, you know, it's it's I'm okay with it. Still,

29
00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,119
Speaker 3: it's still in the Happy New Year. We got till

30
00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,240
Speaker 3: Friday Friday.

31
00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:19,400
Speaker 2: Ship's over.

32
00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeap. We caught a year where it.

33
00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:23,160
Speaker 2: Just lined up right.

34
00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,480
Speaker 3: If it would be if January second, then you would

35
00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:27,920
Speaker 3: have had till the end of that Friday, which would

36
00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:28,880
Speaker 3: have been like the sixth.

37
00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,320
Speaker 2: That would have been got looky, got till the night.

38
00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,600
Speaker 4: Wow, this is like Groundhog's Day when you get up

39
00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,039
Speaker 4: and you're like, oh, Perzinski says, Friday Jen nine, this

40
00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,120
Speaker 4: is gonna be a good year.

41
00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,240
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty six is going to be a good year.

42
00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,640
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm already behind New Year.

43
00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,360
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm already behind on my Christmas shopping

44
00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,680
Speaker 5: because of how the year ended and the ninth Now

45
00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,160
Speaker 5: I can say Happy New Year's now, I got time.

46
00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,240
Speaker 2: Just aj just put a lot on me. I gotta

47
00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:56,360
Speaker 2: I gotta take a break.

48
00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,160
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, while you do that, there's one other thing

49
00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,360
Speaker 4: I want to throw out there before we begin with news.

50
00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,120
Speaker 4: I just want to keep reminding everyone what we're doing

51
00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:09,480
Speaker 4: in a few weeks. BBWAA Award to Gala includes show

52
00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:16,280
Speaker 4: Hey Otani, Aaron Judge, Trek Scoogle, Paul Skens, and many more.

53
00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,760
Speaker 4: On the day is accepting their awards that they won.

54
00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,880
Speaker 4: Those announcements were in November, but the big part of

55
00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,520
Speaker 4: what happens here is when they show up, they take

56
00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,600
Speaker 4: the photos with the awards and we'll talk to whoever

57
00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,480
Speaker 4: wants to talk to us. Last time, we spoke to

58
00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,880
Speaker 4: most award winners and we will certainly send out those

59
00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,240
Speaker 4: requests and ask them or AJ will just go up

60
00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,280
Speaker 4: to them Saturday, January twenty fourth. We'll give you more

61
00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,480
Speaker 4: details as we get closer, and you can still get

62
00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,639
Speaker 4: tickets online too if you're trying to go in person.

63
00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:52,280
Speaker 4: Oh one other announcement please before we begin. So we

64
00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,480
Speaker 4: have four guests today and one of our guests is

65
00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,520
Speaker 4: going to be former angel Mark Trumbo. Do you guys

66
00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,640
Speaker 4: know why Trumbo's joining us today?

67
00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:07,320
Speaker 2: I do yes, because we have Halo Territory.

68
00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:12,880
Speaker 4: That's right, Halo Territory is here. It's a show dedicated

69
00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,800
Speaker 4: to the Angels. The graphics are fantastic. Do you like

70
00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,720
Speaker 4: those graphics? How good is that with the great sky

71
00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,840
Speaker 4: behind it the clouds, Mike Di Giovanna and Mark Trumbo

72
00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,600
Speaker 4: part of Halo Territory. They'll have some special guest contributors

73
00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,200
Speaker 4: to It is the newest show on the Foul Territory Network.

74
00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,320
Speaker 4: Everyone in the ft fam, you know what to do.

75
00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,160
Speaker 4: Even if you hate the Angels, and you shouldn't because

76
00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,880
Speaker 4: they've suffered for a long time. Go give that show

77
00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,880
Speaker 4: a sub on YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts

78
00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:44,520
Speaker 4: as well.

79
00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,240
Speaker 3: I can't wait for Mark Trumbo because I have a

80
00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,240
Speaker 3: story that I want to ask him about. Okay, I

81
00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,640
Speaker 3: hope he remembers it because I have. He probably won't

82
00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,280
Speaker 3: remember it, but it was It was one of those

83
00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,120
Speaker 3: stories that people will think, oh, that's kind of a

84
00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,280
Speaker 3: dumb story, but for a former catcher, it was kind

85
00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,120
Speaker 3: of a funny story.

86
00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,040
Speaker 4: He's pretty sharp. I mean, I to the first show,

87
00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,280
Speaker 4: so I think he might remember it. It sounds like

88
00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,800
Speaker 4: he's the kind of guy that remembers the specific at

89
00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,240
Speaker 4: bat from the random day in the random game.

90
00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:09,960
Speaker 1: So maybe he does remember it.

91
00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,640
Speaker 2: Maybe you'll probably remember this.

92
00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so we'll talk to him later.

93
00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,640
Speaker 5: You said, if you hate the Angels, you can follow.

94
00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,480
Speaker 5: What if the angels hate you, is AJ allowed to follow?

95
00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:23,600
Speaker 1: Yes, still can follow.

96
00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,920
Speaker 4: Many angels fans still hate me, And I'm all over

97
00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,280
Speaker 4: that show I'm watching.

98
00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,920
Speaker 1: I'm listening. So you can't slap us. You can't. You

99
00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,919
Speaker 1: can't fight love. Love always wins. Kratz. Let's charge.

100
00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,200
Speaker 3: Let's charge.

101
00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,120
Speaker 4: We're gonna start with rumors, since there were no signings

102
00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,279
Speaker 4: over the past twenty four hours, so I think this

103
00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:52,200
Speaker 4: is the next signing that happens. We learned from the

104
00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,359
Speaker 4: New York Post that there has now been a second

105
00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,120
Speaker 4: offer made to Cody Bollinger from the Yankees.

106
00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:58,960
Speaker 2: What are we looking for?

107
00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,440
Speaker 4: I don't know what the number is, but a second

108
00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:07,560
Speaker 4: offer to Belly. Sometimes, you know, teams negotiate against themselves.

109
00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they are, but.

110
00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,840
Speaker 4: It does appear as if the Yankees want him more

111
00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:14,560
Speaker 4: than anyone else.

112
00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,520
Speaker 2: Well, he fits the most with the Yankees.

113
00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I mean he was there, he proved he

114
00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,080
Speaker 3: could play there, his dad was a Yankee.

115
00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:22,839
Speaker 2: It makes total sense.

116
00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,200
Speaker 1: They need to be more athletic.

117
00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,920
Speaker 3: Right, he fits that Bill. You can play first, he

118
00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,520
Speaker 3: can play the outfield of Grisham. Doesn't have a year

119
00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,839
Speaker 3: that Grisham had last year, right, I mean he fits perfectly.

120
00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,080
Speaker 3: They lost They obviously lost gold Schmitt. So you need

121
00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,599
Speaker 3: someone to play first, Ben Rice or him or whoever

122
00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:40,800
Speaker 3: it is.

123
00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,000
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna give Rice every day at first,

124
00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:44,240
Speaker 4: or as much as possible.

125
00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,600
Speaker 1: They know where's Bellinger playing outfield?

126
00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:47,280
Speaker 2: Okay?

127
00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,000
Speaker 3: So left? Yeah, because Christians and center judge isn't right.

128
00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,160
Speaker 3: So then what do you do with Domingo?

129
00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,240
Speaker 4: Well, Domingos or Jones could get traded, you know what,

130
00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,000
Speaker 4: I would. Here's my thing about how I trade one

131
00:05:59,040 --> 00:05:59,760
Speaker 4: of them for a picture.

132
00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,320
Speaker 2: I would too, But who do we have on yesterday?

133
00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,719
Speaker 2: Chris Kershner and what he say?

134
00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,120
Speaker 3: They're not trading him and if they trade, especially Domingas,

135
00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,400
Speaker 3: if they trade Domingo's people will be up in arms about.

136
00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:10,880
Speaker 1: It, would they?

137
00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:11,840
Speaker 2: I don't know.

138
00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,960
Speaker 3: I think because he's been so hyped for so long,

139
00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,640
Speaker 3: he's still only twenty two years old, Yankees would be

140
00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,880
Speaker 3: hesitant to trade him because God forbid if he went

141
00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,480
Speaker 3: somewhere else and they let him play a different position

142
00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,000
Speaker 3: or figured out something because he was not good in leftfield.

143
00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,680
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, he wasn't right.

144
00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,280
Speaker 3: But if they put him in center, where he came

145
00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,480
Speaker 3: up playing and he actually became something.

146
00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:30,560
Speaker 2: The Nike fans would be like.

147
00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,040
Speaker 3: Why did you trade him? You know? So I don't know.

148
00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,920
Speaker 3: And Spencer Jones has kind of lost a little bit

149
00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,560
Speaker 3: of his prospect cloud. He hasn't even come up yet.

150
00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but his strikeout numbers are so outrageous.

151
00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,320
Speaker 1: That struck out a lot.

152
00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,720
Speaker 4: Not like this, but remember Judge's first what month or

153
00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,040
Speaker 4: two in the bigs and he just struck out half

154
00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,960
Speaker 4: the time. And then people were like, I don't know,

155
00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,080
Speaker 4: this guy's too big and blah blah blah, he's not

156
00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,200
Speaker 4: going to be able to Now he's all consistent contact

157
00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,599
Speaker 4: and now he's a Hall of Famer. So, yeah, krats

158
00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,800
Speaker 4: if it's me, I'm trading I'm signed Belly and I'm

159
00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,880
Speaker 4: trading Domingez for a pitcher like Edward Cabrera.

160
00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,560
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go on a limb here and tell me

161
00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,080
Speaker 5: if you guys agree with me or not. Cody Bellinger

162
00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,160
Speaker 5: isn't just the best fit for the Yankees. He might

163
00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,840
Speaker 5: be the best value out there on the market. He's

164
00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,040
Speaker 5: the guy that you can plug in at center field,

165
00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,240
Speaker 5: left field, first base, and I think there's a lot

166
00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,600
Speaker 5: of teams that need athleticism. They want a left handed hitter.

167
00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,800
Speaker 5: I think he offers more than the other guys that

168
00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,760
Speaker 5: are out there on the market. Is Kyle Tucker a

169
00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,520
Speaker 5: better offensive piece, Yeah, I would agree with that, But Cody.

170
00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:35,240
Speaker 2: Bellinger is.

171
00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,640
Speaker 5: I think, yes, we're saying it's the Yankees, and yes,

172
00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,640
Speaker 5: I think he will sign with the Yankees because I

173
00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,440
Speaker 5: think they will get the last offer. I don't like

174
00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,880
Speaker 5: the wording of second offer out like it sounds like

175
00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,679
Speaker 5: they made one offer and then we don't hear anything

176
00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,680
Speaker 5: from Cody and then there's another offer. To me, it

177
00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,559
Speaker 5: should be a counter offer, would be the wording. If

178
00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,960
Speaker 5: Cody's like, no, this is what I want, Yankee say, Okay,

179
00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,520
Speaker 5: well this is where we're gonna go ahead and do.

180
00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,600
Speaker 5: But to me, I just I think it's it's the

181
00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,560
Speaker 5: Yankees or nothing. But I also think other teams should

182
00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,600
Speaker 5: be in on Cody. He's proven that he settled into

183
00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,680
Speaker 5: his big league career after that tough front shoulder when

184
00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,960
Speaker 5: you swing injury that he sustained in the twenty twenty

185
00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:19,640
Speaker 5: World Series.

186
00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,840
Speaker 4: He is going to get less than Kyle Tucker, although

187
00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,240
Speaker 4: I can't say that for sure. The Kyle Talker Coucker

188
00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,840
Speaker 4: market that's been pretty mysterious, but at least in terms

189
00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,680
Speaker 4: of the ask, right, if I had to guess what

190
00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,320
Speaker 4: the goal is for each player, they're very far away. Right,

191
00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,400
Speaker 4: You would think heading into the offseason, Kyle Tucker's camp

192
00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,199
Speaker 4: is like, we're getting three fifty four hundred million, Beller

193
00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,200
Speaker 4: camp a million right in Bellinger's camps like we're getting

194
00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,040
Speaker 4: one fifty to two hundred, and we'd be thrilled.

195
00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah that's half. Yeah, So that's.

196
00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,360
Speaker 3: Where right now. I mean, you know, Cody Bellinger might

197
00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:55,800
Speaker 3: figure it out, but right now, it looks like neither

198
00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,120
Speaker 3: one of them is going to get close to that.

199
00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,679
Speaker 2: From the numbers we're hearing.

200
00:08:58,480 --> 00:08:59,880
Speaker 3: We don't know, I mean, we don't ever know, But

201
00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,080
Speaker 3: like the way teams are talking and the way these insiders,

202
00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,880
Speaker 3: the so called insiders are saying, doesn't seem like either

203
00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,520
Speaker 3: one of them is going to get close to Maybe

204
00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:12,000
Speaker 3: Cody Bellinger gets a little closer to one fifty ish, you.

205
00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,120
Speaker 1: Don't want to know, my guess.

206
00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,800
Speaker 4: So I think that the Yankees have a number on

207
00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,040
Speaker 4: Bellinger over a certain amount of years, and then they're

208
00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,840
Speaker 4: going to do the DJ lemayhew and add a year

209
00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,880
Speaker 4: or two to make it work for luxury tax purposes,

210
00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,760
Speaker 4: because hol and many others are sick of giving all

211
00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,240
Speaker 4: the money to the same few teams that don't spend it.

212
00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,400
Speaker 4: So let's say in their mind it's one fifty or

213
00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,840
Speaker 4: let's even just say one eighty six one. They're going

214
00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,120
Speaker 4: to try and throw like eight one eighty at him, Like, dude,

215
00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,000
Speaker 4: you'll be at the end of your career anyway. Sometimes

216
00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,000
Speaker 4: you do buy out at that point, right, Can we

217
00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,440
Speaker 4: do eight one eighty so that it stretches the number out?

218
00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,719
Speaker 4: So that's what I think is going on right now,

219
00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,160
Speaker 4: and they're going back and forth about it.

220
00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,400
Speaker 2: And he does he really fit anywhere else?

221
00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,760
Speaker 1: I mean, oh yeah, he fits in many other spots, but.

222
00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,920
Speaker 2: He's the one guy the Yankees need. Like that, he

223
00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,760
Speaker 2: seems like he's a perfect fit in the Yankees.

224
00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,120
Speaker 3: I agree, like Wan Soda was that one year and

225
00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:00,920
Speaker 3: he got traded over there.

226
00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,000
Speaker 2: He was like the perfect fit.

227
00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,040
Speaker 3: Cody Bellinger after especially after what he did last year,

228
00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,120
Speaker 3: just seems like a really good fit with the Yankees.

229
00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:08,800
Speaker 4: I think the Yankees might to get going with the

230
00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,680
Speaker 4: rest of their plans krat So. I think they're trying

231
00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,600
Speaker 4: to get this done this week. So I think this

232
00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,560
Speaker 4: is the next shoot a drop.

233
00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,080
Speaker 2: Who do they turn to? Who do they turn to

234
00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,040
Speaker 2: if they don't get Cody?

235
00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,720
Speaker 5: And that's why I think Cody's biggest bargaining chip is

236
00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,840
Speaker 5: other than the fact that I think he fits on

237
00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,640
Speaker 5: I believe he fits on so many other teams that

238
00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,400
Speaker 5: I think he will have other options. But who do

239
00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,679
Speaker 5: the Yankees pivot to if they don't get Cody Bellinger?

240
00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,360
Speaker 5: I mean, Aaron Boone said the other day, we love

241
00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,440
Speaker 5: our roster, We really love her. Okay, you loved your

242
00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,840
Speaker 5: roster with the best year ever from Trent Grisham. You

243
00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,000
Speaker 5: love your roster with the fact that Cody Bellinger was

244
00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,760
Speaker 5: giving a little bit of protection to Aaron Judge who

245
00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,760
Speaker 5: had one of his best years ever. Ben Rice, is

246
00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,520
Speaker 5: he going to do exactly like you do? Have to

247
00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,839
Speaker 5: bring somebody in because if you don't sign Cody, you

248
00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:00,760
Speaker 5: have to replace that.

249
00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

250
00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,160
Speaker 4: Remember at some point when someone threw out there Kyle

251
00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:10,040
Speaker 4: Tucker as the backup plan, I'm like, WHOA, that's a

252
00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:10,960
Speaker 4: tough backup plan.

253
00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:11,720
Speaker 1: That's a much point.

254
00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,880
Speaker 4: You can't figure out numbers with Cody, but then you're

255
00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,200
Speaker 4: going to figure out numbers with Kyle. I mean, let's

256
00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,000
Speaker 4: bring in Ken right now to talk about it. First,

257
00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:25,319
Speaker 4: Let's get FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal's take on this. Ken,

258
00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,760
Speaker 4: your thoughts on Cody Bellinger and the Yankees as a

259
00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,959
Speaker 4: fit and maybe as something that could happen soon so

260
00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,000
Speaker 4: that the Yankees can get going with the rest of

261
00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:34,760
Speaker 4: their off season.

262
00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,920
Speaker 6: I don't know about soon. I never kind of predict timelines,

263
00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,920
Speaker 6: especially with Scott wors clients, because Scott Warris is not

264
00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,760
Speaker 6: afraid to drag this thing out. He will act when

265
00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,439
Speaker 6: he thinks it is appropriate. And certainly it could happen

266
00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,360
Speaker 6: this week or at anytime. And I appreciate what you're saying,

267
00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,480
Speaker 6: Scott about the Yankees getting on with the rest of

268
00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,400
Speaker 6: their offseason, But I kind of go back to what

269
00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,520
Speaker 6: Eric was just saying there about what's their alternative? And

270
00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,240
Speaker 6: I think Aj mentioned this too, that to me is

271
00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,600
Speaker 6: the real question. They can trade for a starting pitcher,

272
00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,200
Speaker 6: they can work on the bullpen and do all those

273
00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,000
Speaker 6: things regardless of what happens with Bellinger, whether it's this

274
00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,839
Speaker 6: week or three weeks.

275
00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:14,240
Speaker 1: Down the line.

276
00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,640
Speaker 6: But my question is, if not Bellinger, what's the offensive

277
00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,080
Speaker 6: player you're going to get to replace him.

278
00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:21,960
Speaker 1: Or who is that player?

279
00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,840
Speaker 6: And I don't know the answer to that. Kyle Tucker,

280
00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,760
Speaker 6: as you guys just mentioned, is a much more expensive.

281
00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:32,360
Speaker 6: Most likely addition, Bobashett is not really a fit with

282
00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,439
Speaker 6: their roster. Bregman is not really a fit with their roster.

283
00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:36,520
Speaker 2: So who is that.

284
00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,599
Speaker 6: Hitter if not Bellinger? Now, things happen in the offseason

285
00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,160
Speaker 6: and at the deadline all the time that surprise us

286
00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,760
Speaker 6: that we don't see coming because teams have other moves planned.

287
00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,240
Speaker 6: Let's say the Yankees, for instance, can find a spot

288
00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,000
Speaker 6: for Jash Chisholm and they want to play Bishette at second. Okay,

289
00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,360
Speaker 6: that's one scenario, and it's one of one hundred in

290
00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,800
Speaker 6: all of these circumstances. So I don't know exactly what's

291
00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,920
Speaker 6: going through the minds of the Yankees, But your general premise,

292
00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,280
Speaker 6: the premise of everybody on the panel this morning, is Hey,

293
00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,880
Speaker 6: if not Cody, then who And that to me is

294
00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:12,880
Speaker 6: a very fair question.

295
00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,719
Speaker 5: Just can you clarify something with the wording it said

296
00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,000
Speaker 5: second offer was made to Cody Bellinger? Does that mean

297
00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:24,200
Speaker 5: it was a counteroffer? Does that mean it was Cody said, Okay,

298
00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,320
Speaker 5: I take your first offer, this is what we want.

299
00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,880
Speaker 5: Here comes our counteroffer. Or is this a second offer

300
00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,520
Speaker 5: because he didn't respond because he changed his phone number

301
00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:33,280
Speaker 5: on the first offer.

302
00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,760
Speaker 6: I don't know, Eric, and that's a very fair question. Certainly,

303
00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,640
Speaker 6: it's one of two things. Right as you just laid out.

304
00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:45,040
Speaker 6: It's either Boris countered and the Yankees came back with

305
00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:49,120
Speaker 6: something else, or the Yankees simply increased their initial offer,

306
00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,400
Speaker 6: And either way there's still not there. There's still not

307
00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,920
Speaker 6: at a point where Boris at this point of the

308
00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,400
Speaker 6: off season January sixth, is ready to take whatever the

309
00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,680
Speaker 6: Yankees have offered. Now, the clock is running and it's

310
00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,880
Speaker 6: got another month or so to go before teams start

311
00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,120
Speaker 6: getting together for spring training. We're not an urgent point

312
00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,960
Speaker 6: in these talks with any of these players. There's no

313
00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,240
Speaker 6: deadline in the offseason, as we've discussed many times before.

314
00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:23,760
Speaker 6: But this whole scenario, and it's not just Bellinger, it's Bellinger, Bregman, Boschett, Tucker.

315
00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,120
Speaker 6: They're all intertwined in many ways because many of the

316
00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,120
Speaker 6: same teams are involved with these players. And it just

317
00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,360
Speaker 6: seems that it's one big stalemate right now, a stalemate

318
00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,920
Speaker 6: that can break at any time but hasn't yet.

319
00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,280
Speaker 4: A couple of little moves over the past twenty four hours,

320
00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,360
Speaker 4: Big Christmas is headed to Baltimore. John Kenzi Noel is

321
00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,880
Speaker 4: claimed off waivers from the Cleveland Guardians, so the Orioles

322
00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,200
Speaker 4: have more pop.

323
00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,920
Speaker 1: Got to make the team too great. Nickname Big Dude

324
00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:00,600
Speaker 1: up a good point.

325
00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,560
Speaker 3: If he was placed on if he was designated for

326
00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,120
Speaker 3: simon December seventeenth, Was he on waivers for like a month?

327
00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,880
Speaker 3: Because I thought it was ten days, seven days, ten days,

328
00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:10,120
Speaker 3: whatever it is. I don't know. You could be on

329
00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,280
Speaker 3: waivers for two months.

330
00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,520
Speaker 4: There's some freeze, maybe during the Christmas time to New

331
00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:16,280
Speaker 4: Year's maybe not.

332
00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:16,760
Speaker 1: I don't know.

333
00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,280
Speaker 5: People say people will say who cares, even to the

334
00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,000
Speaker 5: point where the Players Association will say, ah, who cares?

335
00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,000
Speaker 5: You know why they say that because that crap never

336
00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,320
Speaker 5: happened to them. You're sitting there like, I don't know

337
00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,640
Speaker 5: where I'm going. It's a little different in the offseason.

338
00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,240
Speaker 5: You're like, ah, you know whatever, it's no big deal.

339
00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:38,480
Speaker 5: It's a big deal because there's an assimilation process. There's

340
00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,640
Speaker 5: an opportunity for players and teams love this kind of stuff.

341
00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,000
Speaker 5: They love to be able to kind of, you know,

342
00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,200
Speaker 5: have opportunities pick guys up at any time. And so

343
00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,400
Speaker 5: anytime you're just like drawling this stuff out, it matters

344
00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,120
Speaker 5: to players less in the off season. Nothing's changing for him,

345
00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:02,200
Speaker 5: but it's still that sucks over Chris, Big Christmas didn't

346
00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,600
Speaker 5: even get to celebrate Christmas because he's like, am I

347
00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:05,160
Speaker 5: going to be a.

348
00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,160
Speaker 2: Minor league free agent?

349
00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:07,160
Speaker 1: Now?

350
00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,320
Speaker 2: I'm not? I don't know, Happy New Year, Still know nothing.

351
00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,360
Speaker 5: It's usually ten days, so ten days kind of stretched

352
00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:15,840
Speaker 5: out to like twenty.

353
00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,120
Speaker 4: I try to represent the fan voice. If this is

354
00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,080
Speaker 4: during the season, I get it. In the off season,

355
00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,160
Speaker 4: you're not going anywhere this second.

356
00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it still matters for where you have to

357
00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,080
Speaker 3: get placed in spring training. There's a lot like that's

358
00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,600
Speaker 3: where the average fan doesn't understand if the board is

359
00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,920
Speaker 3: still available right now. Yeah, but those guys are going

360
00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,520
Speaker 3: to get millions of dollars, right.

361
00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

362
00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,880
Speaker 3: The difference is Big Christmas is not yeah, right, So

363
00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,280
Speaker 3: she has to figure out, Okay, there's a huge difference

364
00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,560
Speaker 3: from Cleveland spring training in Arizona to Baltimore spring training

365
00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:46,359
Speaker 3: in Sarasota.

366
00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. And also there's a huge team.

367
00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,360
Speaker 3: There and then a team and then you got to

368
00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,160
Speaker 3: get to see new people. So if he would have

369
00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,920
Speaker 3: cleared waivers and he was just a free agent. Then

370
00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,440
Speaker 3: he could have gone and said, okay, well I get

371
00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:57,800
Speaker 3: to pick the team that I think I have the

372
00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,880
Speaker 3: best chance to make the team off with his agent there.

373
00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,680
Speaker 3: But now since he's claimed by the Orioles and it

374
00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,440
Speaker 3: took so long, or maybe it didn't, they just didn't

375
00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:07,119
Speaker 3: announce it. I don't know.

376
00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,000
Speaker 2: The whole thing is strange to me. But it does matter.

377
00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,760
Speaker 3: That's why, like when you're like, oh, as a fan,

378
00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,040
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter, it matters. It would be like any

379
00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,320
Speaker 3: person out there at their job, their job said you

380
00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,199
Speaker 3: know what, we're firing. Okay, you have ten days and

381
00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,520
Speaker 3: you can't do anything. For those ten days. You can't

382
00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,000
Speaker 3: look for a job, you can't do anything. And then

383
00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,160
Speaker 3: at the end of the ten days, say you work

384
00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,280
Speaker 3: for AT and T and T mobile calls and they're like, oh,

385
00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,520
Speaker 3: we're going to hire you. Right, Well, that is that

386
00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,040
Speaker 3: a difference. And oh and by the way, you have

387
00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,920
Speaker 3: to move across the country, right so yes, and you're

388
00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:37,400
Speaker 3: not rich.

389
00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,199
Speaker 4: That's the big part too, is you can't pay your

390
00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:40,720
Speaker 4: way out of the problem like he might.

391
00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,120
Speaker 1: He was optioned twice last year.

392
00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:43,880
Speaker 4: He might not be in the big league this year, Right,

393
00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,119
Speaker 4: he had a bad year after twenty twenty four seventy

394
00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:50,239
Speaker 4: seventy four oks. He was four eighty and sixty nine

395
00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,600
Speaker 4: games this past season. Minor leaguers are not rich. Okay,

396
00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,960
Speaker 4: we can talk player salaries all day. Minor leaguers are

397
00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,200
Speaker 4: not rich. So it's not like he can just find.

398
00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,879
Speaker 3: Even listen, even zero to three guys. Listen, seven fifty

399
00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,600
Speaker 3: is the minimum, yeah, which is a ton of money. Sure,

400
00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,080
Speaker 3: do not get me wrong, Okay, and but but let's

401
00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,960
Speaker 3: think about it. If you don't make it to arbitration

402
00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,080
Speaker 3: and you're a zero to three guy and you make

403
00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,040
Speaker 3: seven to fifty for two years and then you get

404
00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,960
Speaker 3: something happens, you don't make it, okay, one point five million,

405
00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:18,760
Speaker 3: then you're done playing your sport.

406
00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:19,800
Speaker 1: And then cut that in half.

407
00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,679
Speaker 3: It cut the half because and everything else. But like

408
00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,840
Speaker 3: then you have to find a job, like a real job,

409
00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,359
Speaker 3: because you haven't made enough to cover your life. Right, So,

410
00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,680
Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot and that's I don't know. Listen,

411
00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,840
Speaker 3: I understand that money is more money than most people

412
00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,959
Speaker 3: ever make in their lifetime, like in one year, but

413
00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,520
Speaker 3: it's you have as a as a as an athlete,

414
00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,200
Speaker 3: you have a small window to make your life's money right.

415
00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:45,440
Speaker 2: So that that's.

416
00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,520
Speaker 3: Why when you're having to and I've been listening, I've

417
00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,239
Speaker 3: been DFA in the middle of a season. Crats, you've

418
00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,920
Speaker 3: been dfade in the middle of a season. You just

419
00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,720
Speaker 3: sit there. I remember when I did what happened to me.

420
00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,439
Speaker 3: I just sat there and I was like, oh man,

421
00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,760
Speaker 3: I got ten days to do nothing right. You can't

422
00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,680
Speaker 3: do it anything. You know, no one's gonna pick me.

423
00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,080
Speaker 3: No one was gonna pick me up. I wasn't making

424
00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,720
Speaker 3: too much money, so I I went on a road

425
00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:06,600
Speaker 3: trip with my family.

426
00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,240
Speaker 1: Well you got that fun with it, but yes, yeah.

427
00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,120
Speaker 2: I mean, just listen.

428
00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,399
Speaker 3: It couldn't have better listen. It was twenty fourteen. I

429
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,840
Speaker 3: got dfa'ed by the Red Sox. It just so happened.

430
00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,760
Speaker 3: It was right when the Hall of Fame induction in

431
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,959
Speaker 3: Cooperstown was happening, and Frank Thomas had invited my family,

432
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,600
Speaker 3: so they were already going. So we rented an RV

433
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,000
Speaker 3: and drove from Orlando to Cooperstown with another family he

434
00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,120
Speaker 3: was also invited, made stops along the way. I sent

435
00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,280
Speaker 3: some videos of my agent and me taking soft toss,

436
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,920
Speaker 3: like on a on a with a beer in my hand,

437
00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,439
Speaker 3: taking soft toss right because then I was in Cooperstown

438
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,480
Speaker 3: and it just happened to work out. It was Frank's

439
00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,159
Speaker 3: induction and the whole thing, and then I signed with

440
00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,399
Speaker 3: the Cardinals. But like you know, the time for me

441
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,600
Speaker 3: worked out, But like for one of these guys, and

442
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 3: plus I had already bad ten years and had a

443
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 3: lot of money. Luckily enough, stansked away. But like, this

444
00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:00,520
Speaker 3: is not a thing that most guys, it's hard. Scratched

445
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 3: it out way more time, so it's way harder.

446
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,400
Speaker 4: So let's start with ESPN's buster only saying it seems

447
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 4: inevitable that the Mets will sign one of from Rivaldez

448
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 4: or Ranger Suarez as they continue to explore the starting

449
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 4: pitching market.

450
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 1: You know, I find this interesting.

451
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 2: They can have signed for one year or two years

452
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,200
Speaker 2: because that's David Sterns m O.

453
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,160
Speaker 4: Or are they giving in and signing to longer term deals.

454
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 4: I think I don't think one or two. I mean

455
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,199
Speaker 4: Sean and I are signed for three. So is that

456
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 4: the biggest he's given out since he took over? Am

457
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 4: I missing anyone?

458
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 5: He's never given out more? With the Brewers, even I

459
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 5: mean he gave he gave out extensions to young pitchers.

460
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Freddy p But that doesn't count.

461
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 4: So for free agents, Manaiah was the biggest one three

462
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:49,120
Speaker 4: years seventy five.

463
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 1: Mili maybe that.

464
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 5: Framber Framber three years, three years eighty five?

465
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,640
Speaker 2: Does he do it?

466
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 1: Tell me what else is out there.

467
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 2: He's not getting? Is Framber getting thirty anywhere else?

468
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 4: I think Framber's at the age where he's looking for

469
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 4: the biggest guarantee because he might have to take a

470
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 4: deal where it's got opt outs and he hops back

471
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 4: into the market. But if you're Framber, in fairness, you're

472
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 4: looking around, like what else do I have to prove

473
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 4: on the field, just you know, performance wise, statistics wise,

474
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:25,919
Speaker 4: I think.

475
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 1: Framber's what thirty two years old.

476
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 4: It's one thing if you're taking your first crack a

477
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,439
Speaker 4: free agency like here, I'll give you the example Michael

478
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 4: King coming off injury makes sense, right, you might end

479
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 4: up being just a one year to twenty two ish

480
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 4: million with the padres and some of that's deferred, I think,

481
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,360
Speaker 4: and then he hops back into the market. Zach Allen

482
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 4: might have to do that based off the year that

483
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 4: he just came off of. If you're Framber Valdez, You're like,

484
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 4: I've been consistent as hell in terms of putting up

485
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 4: my overall numbers. I mean, yes, he goes through is

486
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 4: really hot and cold time during the season, but.

487
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 2: When he's good, he's really good.

488
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 1: But like, look a look at his numbers.

489
00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 4: I mean, sure, he tailed up a little bit toe

490
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 4: it's the end of this past season, but you're looking

491
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 4: at a pretty consistent thirty ish starts for the past

492
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 4: four years, racking close to two hundred innings, and when

493
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 4: you get to the end of the season, the numbers

494
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 4: are pretty close, so you wouldn't think he would need

495
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 4: to do something like that. But I just don't know

496
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 4: who the big spenders are right now in the marketplace

497
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 4: for this kind of pitching talent. Do you It seems

498
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 4: like a lot of those teams are trade front, right.

499
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,479
Speaker 4: Yankees have a lot of money, But are they spending

500
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 4: it on either of these guys or are they trying

501
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 4: to trade for Edward Cabrera or Freddy Peralte Orioles are

502
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 4: definitely in play. They've been linked to Rangers Suarez for

503
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 4: ten years now and it hasn't happened yet, But I

504
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 4: think it's.

505
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: Still could Braves.

506
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 4: I don't know if the Braves are going to spend

507
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 4: like that. I think they're more hanging around in case

508
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 4: the trade market opens. I don't know, maybe they would spend.

509
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 3: Like I'm just throwing teams out there, what teams, and

510
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 3: I'm throwing team names out.

511
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: There, mets in the Oriols.

512
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 3: The question for me is why did the Astros not

513
00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 3: want to back They signed am I to a three year.

514
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 4: Was eighteen, it's gonna be three sixty three or one

515
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 4: year twenty something and then back to the free agent market.

516
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 4: But yes, they did that, they added who else am

517
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 4: I missing that they added?

518
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: Not Weiss? I know they added him too.

519
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 4: They added a trade but they got Mike Burrows, who

520
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 4: obviously has cost nothing. He's a league minimum. But why

521
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 4: didn't they want him back? Frambaldez isn't interesting.

522
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 3: No, it's just a question. I don't I.

523
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 4: Don't think we need to beat around the bush like

524
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 4: he had a massive incident this past year. It's massive, right,

525
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 4: everybody looked at that and said that's insane. He had

526
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 4: to go to the GM meetings and they made a

527
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 4: whole video and then teams decide for themselves.

528
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: But like we said when this happened. Some owners are

529
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:43,719
Speaker 1: human beings.

530
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 4: They see this stuff just like they get excited when

531
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 4: they watch the playoffs and their team's not in it

532
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 4: and they see a guy shine and then they're like,

533
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 4: I want that guy.

534
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: They watched that incident.

535
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 4: It goes viral and they're like, ah, I don't want

536
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 4: that guy, even if he's good.

537
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 3: That is just wanted too much money. Scott, why do

538
00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 3: you always get to go there?

539
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 1: I'm not always good there? But also Dylan C.

540
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 4: Scott two ten or if you want to get the

541
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 4: net present value, it's still high one hundreds.

542
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: And then the rest of the.

543
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 4: Markets are, oh, well, I put up numbers like that,

544
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 4: like Valdez has put up numbers like that. But teams say,

545
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 4: I like seas Beetter, So we don't think that you're

546
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 4: worth the one eighty five or whatever.

547
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: The number is, right giants, maybe.

548
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 4: Nah, they're not spending like that. They said it, and

549
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 4: they they went Molly and Adrian.

550
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 2: Hauser just don't you ask for teams that could do it?

551
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 1: Orioles Mets they both want to buy starters.

552
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: But okay, then where does Ranger and from or end up?

553
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 3: When it ends up at one place.

554
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 4: The other one is ranger to the Orioles, Framber to

555
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 4: the Mets. But I'm with Kratz here. I do think

556
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 4: he's going to end up getting a deal that's like

557
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 4: three years eighty five with an opt out after year

558
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 4: one and a high aav in year one, which is

559
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 4: like thirty million dollars or thirty five million dollars.

560
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: I have it for you.

561
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 5: I think if he gets if he gets five years,

562
00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 5: one twenty from the Orioles or three years, I'll even

563
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 5: say ninety just for easy math. One is twenty four

564
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 5: a year for five years, the other one's thirty and

565
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 5: he gets to hit the hit the open market again.

566
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,479
Speaker 5: I mean a year, three year, third ninety million dollar deal.

567
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 5: He's gonna have an opt out after the first year.

568
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 5: But which does he take. He's thirty two years old.

569
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,479
Speaker 5: A five year deal puts him at thirty seven. Twenty

570
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 5: four a year doesn't put him up there with what

571
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 5: you know, with what Dylan s Scott thirty a year

572
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 5: per year. Now you're talking the same, you know, more

573
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 5: of the same realm.

574
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: It's a great question. You guys are players. What would

575
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: you guys do?

576
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: Depends where he's got this.

577
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: I take the one twenty.

578
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 2: I take you one twenty.

579
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, take that as my big deal and call it.

580
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 4: I don't know what the next year. You know what

581
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 4: the next year might look like a disaster because you're

582
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 4: also going up against the CBA. Yes, So for me,

583
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 4: I'm taking the largest guarantee. If it's that different. If

584
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 4: you're saying ninety versus one hundred, maybe that's different. But

585
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 4: if you're saying ninety verses one twenty, there's a thirty

586
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 4: million dollar guarantee difference.

587
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: I'm setting in the one twenty.

588
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 5: So then who's making out? Who's making out in both

589
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 5: those cases? In my opinion, it's ownership. There's no such

590
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 5: thing as a bad one year deal. And if you

591
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 5: only have him for three years and he flops after

592
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 5: the first year, you know what, we spent less than

593
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 5: one hundred million dollars. So to me, either one of

594
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 5: those scenarios because of how things have been swinged swung

595
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 5: in the media and how they've been like put out

596
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 5: there about Valdez, because Scott you even did it.

597
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 2: You went, you were like, who doesn't like this guy?

598
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: Who doesn't well?

599
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 5: And then two minutes later you're like, remember that one

600
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 5: thing that was out there. Like Jim Bowden said, this

601
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 5: guy's work on the field should stand for itself. You

602
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 5: have an opportunity to converse with this guy about what

603
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 5: has happened, not just that incident, but you know other instances.

604
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 5: I just I just think it's a I think it's

605
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 5: too much swinging in the wrong direction. If this is

606
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,239
Speaker 5: how players always have to go into their first year

607
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 5: free agency.

608
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: Look at Boris's clients. They've gotten paid.

609
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 5: But unfortunately, what if one of these guys gets hurt.

610
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 5: Now they're not getting paid. I mean, it worked out

611
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 5: for Chapman, it's most likely going to work out for Bregman.

612
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 5: Like they're getting these contracts that they should have gotten

613
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 5: their first year. It's another way of ownership saying you

614
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 5: made it to free agency, we're still going to stick

615
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 5: it to you for one more year.

616
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 4: And just to clarify a long comber, he's not a

617
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 4: Boris client, Pete Alonzo for sure. Well I'll give you

618
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 4: how that works too. Some of some of these guys

619
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 4: are getting attached to qualifying offers and teams hold that

620
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 4: against you way too much. But that but that goes

621
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 4: into a bigger conversation that we talk about and almost

622
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 4: no one else does.

623
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: The CBA.

624
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 4: They're like, hey, make sure you hold these dudes to

625
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 4: the fire with their qualifying offer because.

626
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 3: I don't understand why. I mean, I understand why teams

627
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 3: say the qualifying offer because you get a draft pick,

628
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: but how many I would love to see a stat

629
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: on these draft picks that actually turn into bona fide

630
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 3: frown ber Vell does all star type World series winning,

631
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 3: no hit or throwing players.

632
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: Some do, some don't.

633
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: But that's the thing, just so I get more money,

634
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: but they in the draft that I can. Then then

635
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 3: then GM can screw up.

636
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: It's worth so much and we're going to hold it against.

637
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 3: Fake money, like I'd rather have the good player, so

638
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 3: would many, but there are some that hold them up

639
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 3: against that.

640
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 4: But the point right now is who are the teams

641
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 4: on the market that are actually thinking about spending one

642
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 4: hundred plus million dollars on a free agent starter? And

643
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 4: do they think that guy is the perfect fit. I mean,

644
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 4: I'm still shocked about of my I think I'm the

645
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 4: high guy out of mine. I think he's going to

646
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 4: be a stud, but maybe I'm wrong. Other teams clearly

647
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 4: thought he's going to be a four or five or

648
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 4: maybe not even be a starter.

649
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: Like that's that's what was spoken there. I mean he's

650
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: got he's got.

651
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 4: Innings markers to hit that are like basically start games

652
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 4: and you'll hit the markers eighty ninety and one hundred.

653
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 4: So I mean to me, he's gonna hit the market

654
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 4: again after this year. But for these guys, clearly, there's

655
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 4: some teams that are like, I don't see it for Fromber,

656
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 4: like I like the Blue Jay, saw it for Dylan Cees.

657
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 4: And I do think Ranger Suarez will get a nice contract.

658
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 4: But we've talked about this. He's had some injuries and stuff.

659
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 4: He's not the perfect free agent starter available. He's gonna

660
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 4: get paid as young, yeah, And some teams would say, hey,

661
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 4: he's had some injuries early on in his career.

662
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: The mileage on.

663
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 4: The arm is less. You can paint it however you

664
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 4: want to paint it. That's always the bolt, right. You

665
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 4: can say, oh, he's had a few injuries, but you

666
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 4: can also say, Okay, he's had less mileage on the arm. Remember,

667
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 4: like he goes back to what we always say. James

668
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 4: Shields pitched a billion innings every year until he didn't.

669
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: Listen always goes back to this.

670
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 3: More teams almost talk to them to try to talk

671
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: themselves out of signing the free agent, instead of saying, man,

672
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 3: this guy could really help us even on a short

673
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 3: term deal. Let's throw a one year deal, you know,

674
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: with an opt out or whatever, like they Red Sox

675
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 3: did with Alex Bregman. It's just so much, so much,

676
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 3: always Oh now, they're always looking for the negatives because

677
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: when they're negotiating, that's what they're using with the agents.

678
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: Well, they always the same formulas now too.

679
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: Exactly.

680
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 3: Remember Rob Manford just did a thing where all the

681
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: minor league information has to be together same. Do you

682
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 3: think the teams don't talk about therefore, I'm not saying

683
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 3: they talk about players, but you don't think they all

684
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 3: because look at the front office movement this year from

685
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: the Red Sox from the Cubs, from this team, from

686
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: that team to the new you don't think that they

687
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: bring their formulas that they just learned with the old team.

688
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 4: Over most teams have the same shit too. There's like

689
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 4: a few slight differences.

690
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 3: So Bony came from where Boston, so he's gonna use

691
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 3: the same formula that the Red Sox used for years.

692
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 3: Hein Bloom came from Tampa, and then he went to

693
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 3: Boston and then he went now he's in Saint Louis.

694
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 3: They're all they're all using the same little formula, whatever

695
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 3: it is, because they're all intertwined throughout the league because

696
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: of the trees.

697
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 4: And then you know what happens last year. And I

698
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 4: talked about this the other day. Eventually a phone call

699
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 4: is made to Red Sox owner John Henry and they're like, hey, dude,

700
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 4: I know that your projection model says this is the contract.

701
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 4: It's not going to get him, and he's about to

702
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 4: sign with the Tigers. Do you actually want the player?

703
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 4: You have to go to this number. And then he's

704
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 4: like okay, and then that's what happened. So then you

705
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 4: throw everything out the windows. That's a real story.

706
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: That's how it works.

707
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 5: And you said before, Scott, you were like, the qualifying

708
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 5: offer is connected and and AJ was asking how many

709
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 5: what percentage do you guys think of first rounders because you.

710
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: Don't even get it.

711
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 5: You don't necessarily get a pick depending on what the

712
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 5: team is, but first rounders that make the big leagues

713
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 5: just make.

714
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: The big leagues.

715
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: Go ahead, I have no idea sixty.

716
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 5: Six percent, sixty six percent. So you have this on one side,

717
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 5: you have fran Boon Valdez, Ranger Suarez will start a

718
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 5: playoff game for you. Ask the Tigers how close they

719
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 5: were to make it to the next round, making it

720
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 5: to the World Series one ex pitcher? Would that have

721
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 5: done it for him? To this side, you say sixty

722
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 5: six percent chance of you know what, a guy could

723
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 5: make the big leagues. It's not even like you're talking

724
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 5: about in this hand. The qualifying offer is getting you

725
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 5: a superstar. It's getting somebody who has a sixty six

726
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 5: percent chance of making the big leagues. If you're only

727
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 5: basing it on numbers, why would you not take what's

728
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 5: rate in front of you. If you're a team that says, ah, man,

729
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 5: we're so close, the Tigers, the Mariners, the like teams

730
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 5: that are so close. If you can add a player

731
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 5: for a specific locked in amount of money, why would

732
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 5: you not make that move because it inhibits your job?

733
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 5: Like it makes you look like, ooh, you know what,

734
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 5: this could keep my job for a longer time. Like

735
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 5: the qualifying offer is crazy to me. It's crazy to

736
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 5: me talking about a kid that's in college right now

737
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 5: or high school right now is a possibility of making

738
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 5: the big leagues in five years.

739
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: What where the hell are the club?

740
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly what Wait what who has a sixty six

741
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 3: percent chance?

742
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: He's saying, first round pick? If you get sixty six all.

743
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: First round picks have a sixty six percent chance just

744
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 3: to make it.

745
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 5: The thing that, yeah, the thing that I looked up

746
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 5: says sixty six percent of first rounders make it to

747
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 5: play at least one game in the big leagues.

748
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: Okay, I just want to point this out quick, but.

749
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 3: I mean I look at it. I mean I played

750
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: just a lot of guys that were for high first

751
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: round picks and this and that and their careers. Yeah,

752
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: they made the big leagues. I used Josh Booty. There's

753
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 3: a guy named Josh Boody. He was like the tenth

754
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 3: overall pick. He got like a cup of coffee because

755
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: he was only because he was a first round pick.

756
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 3: And they're like, well, we have to validate the first

757
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: round pick. Yep, right, Like, there was a lot of

758
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 3: guys that you know, first I mean I played with

759
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 3: with and against a lot of first round picks that

760
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: only made it because they made make the organization oh,

761
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: we got this one right. He's in the big leagues

762
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 3: because he was a first round pick.

763
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Impact, first round is a very small person.

764
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: I mean impact, and it goes down as you go

765
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 3: down in the rounds, clearly. But yeah, it's just the

766
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: qualifying offer to me.

767
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: Is just.

768
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: Draft we overvalue because there's teams I'll use the Dodgers.

769
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 3: The Dodgers pick at the bottom of the first round,

770
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 3: they go sign They give up draft picks all the time,

771
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: and you know what they still do. They still develop

772
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 3: guys that they can trade away and make up they

773
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 3: can player. You know why, because it's development. It's not

774
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 3: always about where you draft. It's about who you draft

775
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: and how you develop. I'm with you, I mean because

776
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: nowadays the draft, the first pick in the draft ain't

777
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: always the best player either, because teams have slots don't

778
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 3: make It's crazy because.

779
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 2: I went I just went through with my son.

780
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 3: Not my son getting drafted, but teams calling and other

781
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 3: kids on his high school team that were one was drafted,

782
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: a couple of could have been drafted, but they're like, hey,

783
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 3: we'll draft you if you'll sign for X, y Z,

784
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 3: and like the higher you get in the draft, like

785
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 3: They want to know if they're if they're using a

786
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 3: top three round pick on you, that you're gonna sign. Hey, don't,

787
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: don't Whoever who had the first pick this year the Rockies, No,

788
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 3: who was it? I forget who whoever had the first

789
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: pick this year?

790
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 2: They called whoever they they.

791
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 3: Drafted and they're like, hey, can we get you instead

792
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: of the slot being nine million dollars the Gnats, right,

793
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 3: the slot.

794
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: Let's say the slot was ten million this year.

795
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: And that's just did this. By the way, this is

796
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: the perfect example the Nets.

797
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 3: That's what it's all like. They didn't take They called

798
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 3: it the top ten prospects and said, hey, will you

799
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: signed for seven instead of ten, so that way we

800
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 3: can save the three million for later. And whoever said yes,

801
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 3: that was who they drafted for.

802
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got Eli Willitts. They got will There were

803
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 4: other phone calls made. Well, yeah, the dream scenario, it's

804
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 4: not the dream. But the Pirates picked Henry Davis. He

805
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 4: took underslot as a one to one and then they

806
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 4: they luckily saved face by getting Bubba Chandler later on.

807
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 3: Well, my question is is baseball the only spot with

808
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: this matters where what matters? Slot value who you picked,

809
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 3: because if you go in football, they picked the best player.

810
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: Draft is fucked.

811
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 3: It's right, okay, so then let's then let's go u NBA.

812
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 3: They usually picked the best player, right, Yes.

813
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: Do you know why this is all created like this?

814
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 4: It's because we have this annoying cap system in the

815
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 4: draft and that's why it's not popular and in the mainstream,

816
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 4: and no one understands how it all works. And they're like, wait,

817
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 4: the best player didn't go one, two, three, four or five.

818
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 4: The best player went seven. It's I can go all

819
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 4: day on that, but that is a thing. Let's get

820
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 4: to one more rumor. Back to Buster Only's report on

821
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 4: the Red Sox making an aggressive offer for Alex Bregman.

822
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: Can we show this tweet?

823
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 4: Our friend Jared Krabas commented on this in the morning,

824
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 4: So Tyler Milliken put out this tweet to summarize what

825
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 4: buster only said aggressive offer for Bregman today. He says

826
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 4: they've signaled a willingness to pay him big money, maybe

827
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 4: something in the range of six years, one seventy one

828
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 4: point five million crabs. If this is real and Bragman

829
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 4: hasn't accepted it yet, then what the fuck are we

830
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 4: doing here. I'm with Jared here, that's a very healthy

831
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 4: offer to Alex Bragman. I still have this lingering question

832
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 4: in my mind, is Arizona more involved than we think?

833
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 4: And does Alex have an inclination to maybe end up there,

834
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 4: to be there full time and do the Corbyn Burns

835
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 4: kind of situation right, like if the money's close from Arizona. No,

836
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 4: you don't think there's any factor there. And you guys

837
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,479
Speaker 4: are the players. You tell me tax Arizona taxes living

838
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 4: there year round. It's an appealing place and it's also

839
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 4: it's not a bad team, it's a good franchise. Yeah,

840
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 4: you don't think that's a factor here like that they're

841
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 4: still dancing around and the numbers are close. No, because otherwise,

842
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 4: like Jared said, like what are we waiting for here?

843
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 4: That seems like a very healthy offer. Is he getting

844
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 4: more than that? I don't think he's getting two hundred

845
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 4: million dollars?

846
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: Do you? No? That seems like a pretty nice for someone.

847
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 2: Have better than that, that's what he's hoping.

848
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 5: Maybe, I don't think maybe the name the maybe part

849
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 5: of it. Tyler Milliken put maybe six years Well, he didn't.

850
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 4: Even put that that was He's just aggregating from Buster

851
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 4: Onney's reports, so and and Buster might not have I mean,

852
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 4: usually when someone tries to put the exact number off

853
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 4: or out, it's it's often a miss.

854
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: So I'm just throwing that out there. But if that

855
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: was the case, He's like.

856
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 5: I don't think. I don't think, and obviously I had

857
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 5: no idea. I don't think that the Diamondbacks are the

858
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 5: ones that have to make the offer first. And I

859
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 5: think the Red Sox have the let us know what

860
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 5: everybody else offers. They don't want to bid against themselves.

861
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 5: But I don't see I don't see how they don't

862
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 5: get Bregman. And I think that's how they they put it,

863
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 5: and because they saw what he can do. And I

864
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 5: think it's wait for wait for the Diamondbacks to make

865
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 5: the offer and then and then I think the Red

866
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 5: Sox will either match it, top it, whatever that, whatever

867
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 5: that needs to be.

868
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 4: Sometimes you're not given that luxury that happened last year

869
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 4: with the Tigers.

870
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: It's like, you sure that's your last offer? Cool, Red

871
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: Sox just beat you. We gone. Schwarber just did that

872
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: with the Reds.

873
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,479
Speaker 4: Red's told him, hey, come back, we can go higher,

874
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 4: and he's like, nah, number up that I was looking

875
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 4: for later. I know it's different, but I'm just saying

876
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 4: they don't get they don't get the honor of getting

877
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 4: last call just because they had him for one season.

878
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: I think some organizations do when you play for that team.

879
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: I think some organizations do.

880
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: I believe that.

881
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 5: I know that with some organizations because that's how some

882
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 5: of my buddies have done their contracts.

883
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 4: I know, but that that's not a rule, like he

884
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 4: played for them a rule. But if you were him,

885
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 4: would you think that he needs to give them the

886
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 4: benefit of last call offer?

887
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: No, you would be like, YO, tell me what I'm worth.

888
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 2: Throw it out there, you be off.

889
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: It's a one time you get to do this.

890
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 2: Here is I'm gonna make a decision. Give me your

891
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 2: best offer.

892
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna just side deciding today. What's your best offer.

893
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 4: I'm not coming back to you with my other ship.

894
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 5: That's only your I disagree. I disagree, Arizona says one

895
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 5: sixty five minutes. Arizona says one sixty. Hey, Boston, I'm

896
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 5: about to sign. It's one sixty.

897
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 2: What do you got?

898
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 5: They say, one sixty five? Arizona they just said one sixty.

899
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 5: Isn't that how negotiations work? Like, why do we have

900
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 5: to like's not they don't do is throw numbers out there.

901
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 4: But also that is not how it works for most cases.

902
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 4: They do not do the back and forth. Oh, this

903
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 4: team said this, This team said that. Part of that

904
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 4: actually has to do with something you bring up and

905
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 4: we all bring up all the time, like you you're

906
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 4: trying to play a mystery game because you're already fighting

907
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 4: against collusion, even the indirect collusion of everyone using the

908
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 4: same models. So the best way to counter that is

909
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 4: to actually make it more of a mysterious process, like

910
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 4: I've got something it's hot today, I'm gonna take it

911
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 4: and don't even give them time to figure out who

912
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 4: it is and what the offer is.

913
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, I do.

914
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: I know that's a thing.

915
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with you that that's a thing. But

916
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 5: as the player, you want them to negotiate against each other.

917
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 5: And I think the leverage is in Bregman's hands with

918
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 5: the Red Sox.

919
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, the leverage is in his hands, But

920
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 4: I don't think he has to go back to them

921
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 4: and say, hey, John, can you beat the better offer

922
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 4: that I found. Like they're the Red Sox. They can

923
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 4: they can handle their own big boy offer on their own,

924
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:51,479
Speaker 4: so whatever, I would go back, Leo, take it away.

925
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 4: That's a good one today. Regular seasons for Shoho Tani

926
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 4: bet MGM.

927
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: Futures up. They have him at forty nine and a

928
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: half homers.

929
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: Over unders for me. Okay, easy under und right now?

930
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: Under pitching full time, that's true, full season of pitching, full.

931
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 2: Season of pitching. I think he's gonna miss some time

932
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 2: at some point, just because.

933
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 3: I don't know. I hate it.

934
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: I hope it doesn't happen.

935
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: But that's not even saying like I hope it doesn't happen.

936
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 4: The Dodgers are very cautious with everyone because they play

937
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 4: the marathon game of we're trying to win a World Series.

938
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: We can get through the regular season with what we have.

939
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 3: I think he hits forty two.

940
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: Okay, I love this. I'm on the under train as well.

941
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: One time, lock it.

942
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 2: I like it.

943
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 4: That's an easy one today. And let's cue a little

944
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 4: basketball betting action for you, since besides futures, there's not

945
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 4: much we can do until in the World Baseball Classic,

946
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 4: which is actually coming up soon. But if you're betting

947
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 4: on the NBA this season, something to take a little

948
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 4: pressure off your picks. The NBA No Sweat token and

949
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 4: you get your stake back in bonus bets up to

950
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 4: one thousand dollars. First you log in and grab that

951
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 4: token next to your place a qualifying NBA bet and

952
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 4: attach the token in your bet slip, and if your

953
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 4: bet doesn't win, you get your steak back in bonus bets.

954
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 4: So go hard on the paint gambling problem or concern

955
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 4: called one eight hundred gambler.

956
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 1: Two things on the way out. Let's do kratz ats.

957
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 4: First, since I forgot it yesterday, we got busy, but

958
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 4: we clearly knew what you were wearing yesterday.

959
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: It was a pirate hat.

960
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: Today, yeah, case you had an XKC guy. I was

961
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 2: on the team.

962
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 5: I didn't play, but I was on the team for

963
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 5: a case. And then we brought in Strom who's currently

964
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 5: case Why not?

965
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: That's right.

966
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 4: We did have the big Royals connection today, good call.

967
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 4: And then one move we didn't get to because I mean,

968
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 4: there weren't any major moves last night in terms of signings,

969
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 4: but we covered big Christmas and then justin Henry molloy,

970
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 4: who's been on the show before, is actually a big

971
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 4: FT fan, is joining up with the Tampa Bay Rays.

972
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 4: The Tigers traded him for cash, as most Tigers fans choked.

973
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 4: Hopefully they can use that cash on everybody's favorite Terrek Schoogle.

974
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: It's not that kind of cash, guys. No, they didn't

975
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: sell them.

976
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 4: Away from millions of dollars in a great interview, justin

977
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 4: Henry mlay, Yes, great interview.

978
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 3: And Jayden Ball's back. That damn Ball. You don't know

979
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: who that is.

980
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 2: I don't care. Kratzi'll look at me like that.

981
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 3: But Jayden Ball's back.

982
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. I know, people all

983
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 2: look it up if you know, you know, google me

984
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: it's j d A And by the way, Bau and

985
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 2: gu to.

986
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: Look it up. I wait, guests on the way out,

987
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: Oh what Kratz just looked it up. I'm looking up

988
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: our guest list real quick.

989
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 3: Oh.

990
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: The transfer portal is so crazy to me.

991
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 5: We got we got football players leaving their school and

992
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 5: then visiting the same school in the transfer portal.

993
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: By the way, there's what was it?

994
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 3: There's five thousand people in the transfer portal for football

995
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 3: if you think they're all gonna find because there's also

996
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 3: a whole crew of high school kids that is coming in.

997
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: Why don't they sign these guys to like three year deals.

998
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 2: You can't, you have to go year to year.

999
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: Well that they should.

1000
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: The whole thing is stupid.

1001
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: They should.

1002
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: The whole thing is there's got to be a better

1003
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 3: get paid. But they I understand they should get paid.

1004
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 3: It shouldn't be a three year deal, or it should

1005
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 3: be in Senate based somehow it's a pro game.

1006
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: Now make it a pro game three year contract.

1007
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 2: No, I don't think they should be in senate based,

1008
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 2: But why do you pay a guy that sucks? Like

1009
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: I'm not paying you. You suck, And every other sport

1010
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: is in setup based, no schools.

1011
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 3: But you have to get the money.

1012
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: The schools are already gonna get the money. We don't have.

1013
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 4: More importantly, Drew Samorant and Anthony k joining us tomorrow

1014
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 4: both signed in the last month, and then Macnacharo Royal's

1015
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 4: extension for the manager and Hunter Harvey, who also signed

1016
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 4: in the past few weeks, joining us on Thursday.

1017
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: See tomorrow