1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: I think sometimes children whether they feel that their parents 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: expected of them or they just wanted themselves like, it's 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: up to us as parents to be like, you're going 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: to cut this off for a little while, and I'm 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: going to regulate you not to do more. 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to regulate you. 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: To do less because if not, you're going to get 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: burned out. 9 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: And I want you to enjoy it. I want you 10 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: to have fun. 11 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 3: This is the Reform Sports Project, a podcast about restoring 12 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 3: healthy balance and perspective in all areas of sports through 13 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: education and advocacy. Hi, this is Nick Bonacor from the 14 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 3: Reform Sports Podcast. Today, I'm speaking with Emily Jones, sportscaster 15 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 3: from the Texas Rangers. Emily has been a sideline reporter 16 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,639 Speaker 3: and pre and postgame maker for the Dallas Mavericks, San 17 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 3: Antonio Spurs, Houston Rockets, Texas Rangers, and the Houston Astros. 18 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 3: She's a mom youth softball coach, big time baseball fan, 19 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 3: and host of the Mom Game podcast. 20 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 4: Emily and I discussed the. 21 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: Role parents have to play and regulating their kids training 22 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 3: youth sports. Advice she got from a you of the 23 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 3: professional baseball player she works with, and the three things 24 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 3: she tells her softball team every time they play. Man, 25 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: I am I got a really awesome another awesome guest. 26 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 3: She's coming to us from Texas. She's been covering the 27 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 3: Texas Rangers for a heck of a long time. She's 28 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 3: a podcast host, obviously a writer. She is a freaking 29 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: sports mom, and she's also a from what I hear, 30 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 3: like the second mom for the Texas Rangers. I read 31 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: an article on that which was pretty freaking cool. I 32 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 3: can't wait to dig in, but really so excited to 33 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: have her. Emily Jones. Emily, thank you so much for 34 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 3: coming on. 35 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: Hey, sure you bet so. 36 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 4: I want to start here with you. 37 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 3: Obviously, we connected through Todd Walter, who was a guest 38 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 3: on our pod as well. He kind of shared that you, 39 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: you know, you have obviously a lot of experience in athletics, 40 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 3: but you know you're a sports mom and you share 41 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: a passion for youth sports. I just want to ask 42 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 3: you this, like, when you take a look at the 43 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: landscape of youth sports your experience, you know, what are 44 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: some things that maybe you have seen, you know, over 45 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: the last fifteen twenty years, or that you just see 46 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: in general that concern you I guess just want to 47 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: start there. 48 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think, you. 49 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: Know, it all came about when I had kids and 50 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: they started playing sports. So you kind of see it 51 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: on the periphery, you know, for a while when you 52 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: don't have kids that are of age to play sports, 53 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: and so you kind of like see it and formulate 54 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: opinions about it based on that, and then you know, 55 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: you kind of get into it and see it firsthand, 56 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: and it's I don't know, I mean, it's just so much. 57 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: It's just a lot. You know. 58 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: I coach my daughter's youth softball team. This is my 59 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: third year to coach them, and I absolutely love it, 60 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: you know, and my son plays baseball, football, and basketball, 61 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: and you know, Patty, my daughter also plays volleyball and 62 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: basketball as well. 63 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: So we're a huge sports family. 64 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: But I guess just like the intensity level is just 65 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: so tremendous, and it's very rarely, if ever, coming from 66 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: the kids. It's all coming from the parents, and it's 67 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: just kind of, I mean, for lack of a better word, 68 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: kind of gross when we're talking about you know, eight, nine, ten, 69 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: twelve year old kids that so many adults are clinging 70 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: to this as some sort of validation in their lives 71 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: that if their kids' sports teams do well, then you 72 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: know they're, for lack of a better word, the big 73 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: man on campus. 74 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: Like I don't know. 75 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 5: I mean, it's just it's very perplexing and confusing to me. 76 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: Honestly, it's not all that way by any stretch, but 77 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: there's enough of it to be like, yeah, what's what 78 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: exactly is going on here? 79 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: So I wrote up, but we wrote a blog going back, 80 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: and I kind of I talked about how I am 81 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: the lone wolf sports parent, like I love being and 82 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: not because I'm anti social. In fact, I like to 83 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: think I'm pretty social. But it's like I try to 84 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: stay away from the crowd, like I don't want to 85 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: get caught up. 86 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 4: I mean years ago. 87 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: You know I coach as well, but it's like when 88 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: I go watch my kids play, I don't want to 89 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: get caught up in the riff raff, you know where 90 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: parents are talking about. You know, the coach is making 91 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: a terrible decision, the umpires suck, or this kid's not 92 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 3: playing well, and like you mentioned eight, nine, ten, twelve, eleven, 93 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 3: you know whatever, your old kids, and it's easy to 94 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 3: get sucked into it, though, and to take part. So 95 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 3: I try to just stay away, you know, I go 96 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 3: and stand by myself or my wife or my kids, 97 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: and we just kind of just want to watch the 98 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: kids compete and have a good time. But how do 99 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: you kind of navigate it right, Like it's like this 100 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: line of I don't want to be antisocial, I don't 101 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: want this, but like, how do you kind of how 102 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: do you navigate it? 103 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 5: Well? 104 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: So I think it's a little bit of a combination 105 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: of a lot of things. 106 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: So first and foremost, I mean. 107 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: I think we're all looking out for our children, and 108 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: everyone has you know, your child's situation might be different 109 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: than my child. And so I am an advocate for 110 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: my children in all that they do, whether it be 111 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: school or sports or social or whatever it is. I am, 112 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: you know, selfishly looking out. 113 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: For the best interests of my children. 114 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: But also too, I have in mind, you know, if 115 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: my kids are one A, one B, I have you know, 116 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: in mind. 117 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: The kids around them, and you. 118 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: Know, so I think I try to stay quiet. There 119 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: are times when I get caught up in the moment. 120 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm a fan. I'm a sports fan. I want my 121 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: kids to do well. Obviously, I want their team to 122 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: do well. That's not always going to be the case. 123 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: They're young, Mistakes happen. I mean, I cover a major 124 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: League baseball team and have for the last twenty years, 125 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: and errors happen on a regular basis. And these are 126 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,239 Speaker 1: big leaders getting paid millions of dollars to play this game. 127 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 5: That practice you know no less than you know. 128 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 2: Two three hours a day for nine months out of 129 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: the year. I mean, so you know all of that 130 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: weighing into it. I also realize at the end of the. 131 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 5: Day, I'm a fan and I'm their mom, and I'm. 132 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: Into it, but I think that there's there's a very 133 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: for me. 134 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: I try to make it a very tempered enthusiasm and 135 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: tempered involvement. 136 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: Because, first of all, I respect the people. 137 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: That do take their time to coach, to pour into 138 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: these kids. Most of the time it's completely voluntary. They're 139 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: not being compensated, and I'm grateful for that. Same way 140 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: with the umpires. I mean, obviously they are and referees 141 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: and officials, they're being compensated, but let's be real, it's 142 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: not great and. 143 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 5: They're not at the level you know of a big 144 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 5: league umpiring crew or. 145 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: Any sort of equivalent, and so I try to keep 146 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: all of that in perspective. 147 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: And in mind. 148 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: I just think that with parents, by and large, the 149 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: vast majority just don't have that. They don't have that 150 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: to kind of fall back on those experiences and different 151 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: things like that, and so they're completely and totally invested 152 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: into these youth sports, which is great to support your children, 153 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: but there has to be some sort of balance, and 154 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: it's a balance for me. 155 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I try to keep my mouth shut. 156 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: Especially when it's a team I'm not coaching, but you know, like, 157 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: for example, I have an issue with a team my 158 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: son played on, you know, a couple of years ago, 159 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: and they brought in replacement player, Like not replacement, that 160 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: sounds about guests players, right, because we had injuries or whatever. 161 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: And then those guests players were batting at the top 162 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: of the lineup, and I was like, that to me, 163 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: doesn't seem right, Like. 164 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: That doesn't seem that to me doesn't make sense. 165 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: Just having the sports background that I do and knowing 166 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: how a big leaguer who is a grown man feels 167 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: when he gets bumped down in the lineup or whatever, 168 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: knowing how that affects him mentally and psychologically as a 169 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: part of the game. 170 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: I had a question. 171 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: About that, like, hey, I don't think that you know, 172 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: ten eleven twelve year olds are their. 173 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: Psyche is going to take a hit. 174 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: And I feel like so much of the game at 175 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: this stage in kids' lives developmentally is so much is 176 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: so much tied to that, like the confidence that a 177 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: coach would have in them, and that the belief that 178 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: someone would have in them. 179 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:57,679 Speaker 2: They feed off. 180 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: Of that so much, and it's such an impressiable age 181 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: that I felt like I had a question about that, 182 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: and so that was, you know, something that I took 183 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: into account and addressed and you know, all that kind 184 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: of stuff. 185 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: But you know, you have to kind of, I guess, 186 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: pick and. 187 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 5: Choose where you want to be vocal and. 188 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: Where you think it's appropriate. 189 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: But I try to remain you know, level headed and 190 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: not question you know, coaches, umpires, all that kind of stuff. 191 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: But you know, there is certain times when you know, 192 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: I haven't kept my mouth shut. I have said something, 193 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: and I try to do it in a respectful and 194 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: kind manner, and you know, go from there. 195 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: But you know, it's just it's very much. 196 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: A personal thing and everyone kind of navigates their way 197 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: through it differently. And I think with me and my 198 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: background in sports and the things that I've done through 199 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: my job, I have a kind of maybe kind of 200 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: a different perspective, you know than some parents do. And 201 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: I don't knock other parents for having, you know, their 202 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: way of dealing with things, but it just is overall, 203 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: it's very intense, and it seems a little over the top, honestly. 204 00:08:59,280 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 4: You know. 205 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: That's that's a very interesting point that you just made 206 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 3: as far as you know, a big leader having their 207 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 3: psyche kind of you know, you know, messed up temporarily, 208 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: you know, for you know, get moved down to the back. 209 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 4: People forget. 210 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 3: They often dehumanize professional athletes like, oh yeah, you know, 211 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 3: and no one has a front row seat at that. 212 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 3: Not many have a front row seat of that like 213 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 3: you do. I have friends that have played in professional 214 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: sports and and you know, so I've had some pretty 215 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 3: intimate conversations with. 216 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 4: With those with those folks, and I get it. 217 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 3: But you've been doing it for years and years and 218 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 3: years and really seeing the you know, the energy like 219 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 3: and mental health is such a big thing. You know, 220 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: it's such a big thing that thankfully is now being 221 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: talked about without that scarlet letter. You know, you're seeing 222 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 3: more and more athletes get vulnerable, open up and show 223 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 3: what I think is strength, which years ago used to 224 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: be considered weakness and it's not. 225 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 4: It's a real strength to be able to talk about that. 226 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: And if twenty one, you know, thirty year old grown 227 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 3: men or women, depending on the sport, struggle with the 228 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 3: mental you know, reject or you know, the struggles the 229 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: failures that go along with sport, how the hell do 230 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: you expect a nine, ten, eleven year old to just 231 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: go through it with you know, prancing around, right? So, 232 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 3: so how can I guess if you can talk a 233 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: little bit about some of the mental grime and the 234 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 3: struggle that these athletes that you cover go through and 235 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: maybe correlate it to like, hey, we can't have because 236 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 3: I often argue Emily that a lot of times some 237 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 3: of these organizations, you know, youth organizations, will put together 238 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 3: like the practice plans of like college and pro athletes 239 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 3: and try to put it on like nine ten year 240 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: olds and expect them to have the same type of enthusiasm. 241 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 3: It's like there's a difference there isn't there? 242 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's just like everything answer I 243 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: feel like we might we might be forcing things a 244 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: little a little too soon. And you know, and listen, 245 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: I've got a twelve year old boy that like lives 246 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: and breaths baseball, like he wants to do something baseball 247 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: related every day, and I love that and I appreciate that, 248 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: but there are times when we literally have to tell him, 249 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: you have got to take a break. Your mind needs 250 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: a break. You're trying so hard, which I love and appreciate, 251 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: but you need to reset. You need to have some 252 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: time away to not be thinking about baseball. And I 253 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: think that that's on us as parents to make our kids, 254 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: even if they want it, you know, they want to 255 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: do something every day, week in, week out. You're in, 256 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: you're out, all that kind of stuff. 257 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 5: That's great, and I love the passion and the commitment. 258 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: I love that, but also too, Like I tell Henry 259 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: my son didn't want to go to camp next year 260 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: because he's like, that's two weeks I'm not going to be, 261 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: you know, training, And I'm like, you're twelve, you don't 262 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: need to be training. You're around, you're gonna go to camp, 263 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: You're gonna not have devices, you're not playing video games, 264 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna not have a phone. You're gonna go to camp, 265 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna sweat your nuts off, and you're gonna play 266 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: with your friends and you're gonna have a great time, 267 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:52,599 Speaker 1: and you're gonna. 268 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: Come home and baseball is still going to be there. 269 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: We're not planning our lives when you're twelve around baseball. 270 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: We're just not doing it. And I love that you 271 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: love it. 272 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: And trust me, no one loves this sport more than me, 273 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: like in our family, like I love baseball. 274 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: Obviously, I've made my you know, living my career around it. 275 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 2: But we are not going to do this. 276 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: And so I think sometimes children, whether they feel that 277 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: their parents expected of them, or they just want it themselves, 278 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: like it's up to us as parents to be like, 279 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: you're going to cut this off for a little while, 280 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: and I'm going to regulate you not to do more. 281 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 2: I'm going to regulate you to do less because if. 282 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: Not, you're going to get burned out. And I want 283 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: you to enjoy it. I want you to have fun, 284 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: Like this game has brought me joy over the last 285 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: twenty years of my life and I wouldn't trade it 286 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: for anything. But you're going to get to a point 287 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: where if you do it too much and you overexpose yourself, 288 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: it's going to be too much. And so you know 289 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: it's on us as the adults to kind of be 290 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: the regulators in this whole thing. You know, It's it's 291 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: harder to do, I feel like, because now there's so 292 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: many more opportunities, you know, for. 293 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: These kids to be involved, and they. 294 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 5: Feel like if they're not doing every. 295 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: Single thing that's presented to them and they're falling behind. 296 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 3: When we return, Emily and I discuss what she's learned 297 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 3: about youth sports from her professional baseball player colleagues. Where 298 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 3: we left off, Emily and I were about to discuss 299 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 3: the importance of playing multiple sports the car ride home 300 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 3: and the three things she tells her softball team every 301 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 3: time they play the piggyback off that Alums was like, 302 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 3: Oh my god, does she just listened to my interview 303 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 3: with Tim Corban because he literally Tim corbman, of course, 304 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 3: head baseball coach at Vanderbilt University. He was episode one, 305 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 3: and he literally said the almost verbatim exact same thing 306 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 3: that you said, is like, you know, the kids don't 307 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 3: need to have a bat and ball in their hand, 308 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: you know, twelve months out of the year, like we 309 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 3: have to we take it away from him. And he 310 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 3: used the exact word that you did. The body needs 311 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: to reset, the brain needs to reset. He's like, even 312 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 3: for just a little bit, and that's so important. And 313 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: we often you know, here a reform sports project and 314 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 3: I we talk about balance, you know, and no more 315 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 3: Garcia Parr, who I know obviously you know, I read 316 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 3: a quote from him. He talked about how, you know, 317 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 3: my kids want to eat ice cream every single meal, 318 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: all the day. But I got to be the parent 319 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 3: to say no, I got to be the one who 320 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 3: doesn't allow that to happen. And it's it's interesting because 321 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 3: you hear people say, oh, my kids want to sit 322 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 3: inside and play video games or you know, why are 323 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 3: we going to tell him to stop going? 324 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 4: So like, let me ask you this question, your son. 325 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 3: You tell him you want to shut it down, do 326 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 3: baseball training, like you need to take a break. 327 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 4: What if him and his boys just want to go 328 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 4: play wiffleball? Like that's right, I mean, totally different thing. Right. 329 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 3: You ever talked to big leaguers who talk about how 330 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 3: whiffleball might have Like, have I ever had conversations about 331 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: that stuff, how free play might have helped them. 332 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And a lot of the reason why I 333 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: have to stand that I do is because of conversations 334 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: with guys like Ian Kinsler, Joey Gallo, Michael Johann, like 335 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: guys that I've gotten close with over the years, you know, 336 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: talking about when we you know, when I was starting 337 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: to have kids and when they were entering the stage 338 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: where they were going to start playing sports. 339 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: And how did you navigate. 340 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: I mean, we all kind of went do these things, 341 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: you know, at similar times when I first started having kids, 342 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: And to a man, the number one piece of advice 343 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: I got in terms of sports and children is let 344 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: them play multiple sports. Do not let them just play 345 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: one sport too early on in their you know, in 346 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: their youth careers. 347 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: Were talking about you talked to Ian Kinsler. 348 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: You talked to Michael Young, you talked to Joey Gallow, 349 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: you talked to you know, like I'm trying to think 350 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: of conversations with people I had, like when I was 351 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: starting to have kids, like uh, you know, even. 352 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: Ryan Rua, Will Middlebrooks, Like I mean, I would ask guys, 353 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: you know, what did you do? You know, what did 354 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: you play as a kid and like, oh, spread. 355 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: It around like you play it all like you you know, 356 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: you don't focus on one thing until you know, maybe 357 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: late junior high, eighth grade, you know, high school maybe 358 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: because that's kind of you kind of have to pick 359 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: at that point. 360 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 2: But like, no, it's it's so good for you. 361 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you talked to successful you know, baseball coaches. 362 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: You talk to Chris Woodward who was with us for 363 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: a long time. You talked to Mike Maddox. I mean, 364 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: all these guys, they're all. 365 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: Saying the same things. 366 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I've never talked to one player that I 367 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: had a relationship with that's been like yep, get Henry 368 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: and baseball from jump and make sure he plays. 369 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 5: Around and make sure he doesn't play any other sport. 370 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: Like never in my twenty years of doing this, have 371 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: I heard anybody say that. 372 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 3: Do you think that there's like a you know, we 373 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 3: often talk about over you, so like, what do you 374 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: think about Tommy John When you first started covering baseball, 375 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 3: was it as prevalent as it is today? 376 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: No? 377 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I mean, and I think a lot 378 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: of it is because dudes are they're throwing their arms 379 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: off like they're throwing at such high velocity that your your. 380 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: Arm can only withstand so much. 381 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: And especially if you're a if you're you know, a 382 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: guy that's a you know, slider build. And I'm not 383 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: trying to say Jacob de Gram is of slighter build, 384 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: but Jake de Grom is a tall, slender man with 385 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: very little like he doesn't have a lot of cushion, right, 386 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he's not a big guy. He's I mean, 387 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: you look at Bartolo Cologne and Jacob Degram are completely 388 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: different human beings right the way they're built. 389 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: And I think when you don't have a. 390 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: Ton of muscle and for black a better word, cushion 391 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: to support what your arm is doing, you know, every 392 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: five days, and gearing out for that every fifth day, 393 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: you're more susceptible to it. 394 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it's any sort of coincidence 395 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 2: that the number of Tommy. 396 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: John's that we've seen has increased, you know, correspondingly to 397 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: the fact that VLO has gone up, not just in 398 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: the big leagues, but across the board. Guys are kids 399 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: are trying to throw harder, and it's it's the problem 400 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: My has been pitched for one year at a junior college, 401 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, back twenty or how many every years ago, 402 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: and he is very very adamant and vigilant about him 403 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: he's throwing program and how often he can throw pitch, 404 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,959 Speaker 1: and the recovery and the icing and all that kind 405 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: of stuff. 406 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 5: But I know that not all parents are like that. 407 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: I'm grateful that he is because he's very cognitive of it, 408 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: because he you know, he pitched in high school and 409 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: he pitched you know, like I said, one year and 410 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: junior college, and it's not like he's any sort of expert. 411 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 2: But he's also very. 412 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: Mindful of it with our son to make sure that 413 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: he stays in check and he's not being overused or overexposed. 414 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: And also too, I think just trying to teach them 415 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: how to pitch instead of just you know. 416 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 2: Throw the whiz out of the ball. There's something to 417 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: be said. 418 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: For that, where you see that a lot of times 419 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: with guys laid in their careers that they don't have 420 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: the velocity that they had and they have to kind 421 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: of learn and find ways to learn how to pitch 422 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: instead of just how to throw really hard. And I 423 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: think those are the ones where you see those are 424 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: the most fun to watch to me. 425 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it's fun to see the oldest Chapman light 426 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 2: up the radar. 427 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 5: Done at one o three. 428 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm all in. But he's coming in for an 429 00:18:58,800 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: inning at a time. 430 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 2: Every two or three days. 431 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: It's completely different than a parent's starting pitcher, and you're 432 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: trying to sustain that for seven innings every fifth day. 433 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 3: You know the fact that you have your experience in 434 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 3: athletics in your career, and your husband obviously you know, 435 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: your your family you're a sports family, and your husband's 436 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 3: obviously you know, involved, and you know, regulating your your 437 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: son's output as far as you know, pitch count and 438 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: all that type of stuff. 439 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 4: What is the car ride home for you guys? 440 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 3: Like after a game, Let's say you're you're you know, 441 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 3: Henry goes over four and you know he's on the 442 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 3: bump and you know, gives up a bunch of you know, hits, 443 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 3: just doesn't have a great day like every human being 444 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 3: does from time to time. And on the other side, 445 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 3: what if he goes for for four and throws a 446 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 3: one hit, shutout, complete game and it's on top of 447 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 3: the world. What's it like in the car with mom 448 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 3: and dad? Because I know, for me there the back 449 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 3: before I was the quote unquote reform sports parent. There 450 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 3: were times where I was definitely better of a parent 451 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 3: when my kid was doing good versus not. Now how 452 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 3: to stay middle of the row. I'm proud of you, 453 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 3: great job, you know, I love watching you play. But 454 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 3: how what is it like for the Jones group? 455 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: So I will tell you this, I've received one of 456 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: the best piece of advices ever from Michael Young. And 457 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: Michael Young Rangers hall of famer, you know, played for 458 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: you know how many of her years in the big leagues, 459 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: ultimate professional, like just such a level headed, great dude 460 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: and a dear friend. And he told me when his 461 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: kids started playing sports, as long as they're in uniform, 462 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: you don't talk about the game. 463 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 2: That way, You're not talking about on the car right 464 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: on the way home. 465 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: Let them get home, get showered, and if they want 466 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: to talk, if they want to talk about it, that's 467 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: if they want to bring it up, they want to 468 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: talk about it, that's fine, But you don't talk about 469 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: the game as long as they're in their uniform. And 470 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: so once they get out of their uniform, that means 471 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: everybody's had the chance to cool down, to process everything. 472 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 2: To have some more clear thoughts. 473 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: But there's just there's no reason to talk about the 474 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: game while they're in their uniform. 475 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: And I thought such a great piece of advice. 476 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: Now, if they if if Henry wants to talk about 477 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: it on the way home, then let's. 478 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: Talk about it. If he brings it up. 479 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: But if I'm not bringing we're not bringing it up. 480 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: If he's in his uniform, we're on our way home, 481 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: he's probably already if he didn't do well, he's no doubt, 482 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 1: no question beating himself up, you know whatever. If they 483 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: want to talk about it, great, but I don't. We 484 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: don't bring up that game until until they're out of 485 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: their uniforms because a lot of times with these kids, a. 486 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 2: Lot of them, you know, will flush it, they completely 487 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: flush it, and they're not even to think about it. 488 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: So there's no reason to talk about it, no reason 489 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: to make it a bigger deal than it is. If 490 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: they're you know, nine, ten, eleven years old, if they've 491 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: already flushed it, then you flush it too. And so 492 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: if they're in their uniform, you don't talk about it. 493 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: And then if they're once they get home and they 494 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: take a shower and they come in and want to 495 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: talk about it, then let's chop it up. 496 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 2: But if not, then we're just going to stay away 497 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 2: from it. 498 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 4: I love it. 499 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 3: You know, you're someone like I keep saying, you're in 500 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 3: the trenches. You're on a professional ballfield, you know, almost 501 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 3: every night, and more importantly, you're you're running around with 502 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 3: your own. 503 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 4: Kids to their sporting events. 504 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 3: So you know, what would be some advice that you'd 505 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: give to just sports parents? 506 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 4: Say? 507 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 3: You know, parent will listen to this, and you know 508 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 3: their kids are entering in like you were twenty plus. 509 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 3: You know, however many years ago, what would you be 510 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 3: saying to them on how to navigate it? 511 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: So I feel like the best thing that I did 512 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: was coach my daughter's softball team. So this is my 513 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: third year coaching Hattie softball team, the Dirt Vis and 514 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: these girls, I mean none of them knew anything about 515 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: softball going in or baseball. 516 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 5: Much for that matter, and they have so much fun. 517 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 5: They love it. 518 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: You know, they try hard, but they're good teammates to 519 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: each other. And so we break down every game, every 520 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: practice with three things, the three things that I want 521 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: them to do each and every practice, in each and 522 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: every game, and that's play hard, have fun, be a 523 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: good teammate. 524 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 2: Everything else will take care of itself. I don't care 525 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 2: if you at a home run. 526 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 5: I don't care if you strike out five times. I 527 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 5: want you to play hard, I want you to have fun. 528 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 5: I want you to be a good teammate. 529 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: And I will tell you that coaching has given me 530 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: a completely different perspective because I'm not gonna lie. 531 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 2: I'm not perfect. 532 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: It's not like I'm that little miss perfect sitting on 533 00:22:59,160 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: her hands in. 534 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 5: The state while my kids are playing. 535 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: I will safe, stuff, cheer sometimes true, not that I'm 536 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: proud of it. 537 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 2: But when you. 538 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: Coach, I know those girls are looking at me. I 539 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: know they're looking to see how I react to certain situations, 540 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: how I react to a bad call, how I react 541 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: to another parent yelling at me, how I react to 542 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: a coach yelling at me. They're watching me to see 543 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: how I respond. And so, for me, the best thing 544 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: I ever did as a sports parent was to coach, 545 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: because I knew that I better. 546 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: Clean my bess up, if you know what I mean. 547 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: If these girls are going to be looking to me, 548 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: I can't act like a jackass. I've got to be 549 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: I've got to be something that they can look at 550 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: and model their behavior after. And so for me, coaching 551 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: Hattie's team for the last three years has been the 552 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: best thing that I've ever done, and it's given me 553 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: a whole different perspective on the entire youth sports scene. 554 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: And I would highly encourage you, even if you're not 555 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: going to head coach assistant coach, be on that field 556 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 1: and know that those boys and girls that are so 557 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: young that are taking air cues from you are looking 558 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: at you, and how do you want them to act? 559 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: And how do you want them to react to certain 560 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: situations because they are looking at you. 561 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 2: And when you've. 562 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: Got a head coach or an assistant coach or a 563 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: group of parents that are acting a full it's just 564 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: it's gross and it's embarrassing, and it's like, hey, hey, guys, 565 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: remember us, we're the adults, like we need to do better. 566 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: So these kids aren't jackasses, you know what I mean? 567 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: But I just people get competitive, and I get it, but. 568 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 2: For the love, like, we're not. 569 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: This is this is sports, and not only just sports, 570 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: it's youth sports. 571 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 2: Like, let's just have fun, play hard, have fun, be 572 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: a good teammate. 573 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 4: I love it Emily, Where can people find you? I 574 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 4: know you're on Twitter? Where are your handles and your 575 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:45,959 Speaker 4: pod and all that? 576 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: So on Instagram at Emily Jones nineteen seventy seven, which 577 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: we'll tell you exactly. 578 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: How old I am. Let's go because that's the year 579 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 2: I was born. 580 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: And then the Mom Game podcast, so that I do 581 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: with Julie Dobbs and we talk about all just stuff, 582 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: just like this parenting stuff sports. Our tagline is not 583 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,479 Speaker 1: just moms, not just sports, so it's kind of a 584 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 1: little niche thing we've had a lot of fun with. 585 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 5: We're three and a half. 586 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 2: Years into that, so yeah, lots of different ways to 587 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 2: find me. 588 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 5: But it's been great talking to you, and we're going 589 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 5: to have you on the Mom Game soon. 590 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 2: I've got to get the Rangers figured out before. 591 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: We can do any planning of that kind because they've 592 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: kind of got me held hostage, which I'm not complaining 593 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: about at this point. 594 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 4: I love it. I can't thank you enough. 595 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 3: I'd be honored to be a guest, and thank you 596 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: so much for coming on. 597 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 4: You're awesome. 598 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Thanks Bill, having a great day. 599 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 3: That's Emily Jones, sportscaster and Texas Rangers Sideline reporter. Thanks 600 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 3: for listening to the Reform Sports Podcast. 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