1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: On today's episode The Command Center Podcast, it's all combine. 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: We did nothing that is true. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: You gotta like ruin the whole thing. But yeah, we're 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: gonna talk about the combine quite a bit. We have 5 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: Olympic reactions. 6 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 3: Apparently Fred could go, we did it, we did it, 7 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 3: we did right. But you can cul though. 8 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 2: I am with Caroline and I. 9 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: For one second and then we got some unbiased, totally 10 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: unaltered forty time results and Fred just seems to get 11 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: slower and slower. 12 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 3: It all starts right now, just naive. Welcome to the 13 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 3: Command Center Podcast. 14 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: I'm Logan Paulson here with Fred Spoot, Santana Moss and 15 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: as always represented by Big Bear AI, Mission Ready AI 16 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: for a rapidly evolving world, and we are in the 17 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: Big Bear AI Command Center studio. Bear and guys, it 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: is the week of the Combine. 19 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 3: Come back to the show's coming out this week, and 20 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 3: I think it would. 21 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: Be good, yeah for us, okay. 22 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: To remember what we did. I didn't go to the combine. 23 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: Reflect reflect, yeah, reflect on the combine. Maybe combine performances. 24 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 4: They don't think about it, all three of us, even 25 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 4: though me and Towna, we ain't do nothing. 26 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: Well, you did the bench press, right if. 27 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: My personal workout in Mississippi state. 28 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 5: That the personal one walked around to come by with 29 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 5: my chests out. 30 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 2: All I did was do medica and do the test. Yeah, 31 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: comebine with a breeze. It was a breeze. But it 32 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: was also like you got a lot of flat from 33 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 2: coaches and scouts like as if, like who these Miami 34 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: Because you gotta think about it, those personal workouts wasn't 35 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: a thing back then. See what I'm saying. The Miami 36 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: guys will always do their thing. When we had a 37 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: little leverage. It wasn't every Miami guy that was able 38 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: to do that. Certain guys but also had multiple DRAF picks. 39 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 4: So it's easy for a scout to go to a 40 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 4: team with multiple drafts. 41 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: So again we're gonna talk about this in a second. 42 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: But so you guys just did the interviews. 43 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 4: Interviews, in the medical interviews, the medical and the land 44 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 4: you walk on stage the tests and stuff and walk 45 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 4: on stay with the little market market. 46 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: Walk up there, turn around. 47 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess they still do that. 48 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: They saw they saw that boy one fifteen soaking. It's 49 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: kind of ikey, I need to tell you the truth. 50 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 4: It's kind of yikey because you got GMS, you got 51 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 4: coaching sitting out there. And I'll never forget Adrian Wilson 52 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 4: was in front of me. Yea, I remember big safety 53 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 4: Wilson and when we walk on stage, what they would 54 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 4: do was call your medical out. 55 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: And you said his medical was crazy. 56 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: I was like, lo, like you would be. You wouldn't 57 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: be listening to all the injuries like. 58 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 4: Toe peck, toys knee in ninety six, toy a c 59 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 4: l a screen Listen did he I come behind him? 60 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 2: I ain't, never had an interviewing, never missed the game. 61 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: Don't don't look like him, but you know, he. 62 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 4: Looked like a Greek god, and I'm seeing him looking 63 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 4: like Isaiah Townents. 64 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: It was interesting because I remember there was a player 65 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: that I played with who was built like a Greek guy, 66 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: like built like just big. 67 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 68 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: When to leave his name out for the story, just 69 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: but they did like in assessments, you know. I remember 70 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: talking to the strength coach about like the injury assessments 71 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: and he's like, this player is a ticking time bomb. Yeah, 72 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: because he's so round up, like wound up tight. He's 73 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: gonna tear a pack. He's gonna do something, and we 74 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: were okay with it because he's so good. But I 75 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: thought that was really interesting, Amanda. So you got what 76 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: over there forty times? 77 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 6: Yes, I do, So I have everybody's forty times. I'll 78 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 6: start with Santana's as the fastest. It was at four 79 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 6: point three one. 80 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, that what they rounded off the board point. 81 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: But you said you had a You said you had 82 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: a four point three one and a four points. 83 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: So no, my first forty at my personal workout was 84 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: full three five and my second one was four two eight, 85 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: so the round off came to four three one. I 86 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: went forward to and just to just to put in there, 87 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: we came out in the same class. That fourth three 88 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: one was the top in our whole entire class. They 89 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: wounded me up to because that slipped on the seg 90 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: just so I can, you know, down doing another record. 91 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: I don't do nothing of this, Pat myself. 92 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: Go ahead, and someone asking me, I think Jason was 93 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: talking about this, like if we had to run a 94 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: forty today, who who would win? And I really think 95 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: Tanne could still run like a four five, four six. 96 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: I don't know, boy, I don't even want to try it. 97 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 2: I'm scared to pull a mustard right now. 98 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: I don't want you to try, but I'm like, because 99 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: you have so much speed reserve, like if you trained 100 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: for it for a little bit track background. 101 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 4: Feeling bleat of foot right now, I ain't felt like 102 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 4: this in ten years. 103 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: You didn't look that way walking over here. 104 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 2: Listen, I ran three miles this morning before I came here. 105 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 7: I mean it's time was a four forty eight. 106 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: This is for forty eight. 107 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 7: That's just according to the stats. 108 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: That's all wrong. He was a little fan. We gave 109 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 2: him for a flat man. That's a lot of man. 110 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 3: Where'd you get that? 111 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 7: By the way, Pro Football Reference? 112 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 3: So pro Football I actually called we did this last. 113 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: Year, and you called the Pittsborg steel I. 114 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 3: Called the Pittsburgh Steelers and they gave me a I 115 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: think it was. 116 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 2: A four four four four one, four four one. 117 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: Or four four seven, I don't remember. Was my work 118 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: What's what's on the watch I gave you? 119 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 3: I put it on there. 120 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: Four four one, okay, four four one. That's what they 121 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: had for the workout. But it's all so. The funny 122 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: thing is it's at it's at his pro day. Yeah, 123 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: so it's all hand time. So I'm sure you have 124 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: some people that have been a four five, and. 125 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 4: I never ran a four five, even when I was 126 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 4: ten years old, never ran a four five. 127 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: I'm just telling it right now. 128 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 3: I don't know how you are. I'm just saying the handtime, man, 129 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 3: they're gonna be all over. 130 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 4: The Coach Calvill after I ran there four four one, 131 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 4: it was like, yes, you're blazing right, but he said, 132 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 4: I think you got some more juice because I'll go 133 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 4: run for a third time because Coach Cowvill asked me. 134 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: To, all right, because I thought he was going we 135 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: actually do get three trials. Yeah, yeah, but I ran, 136 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: I ran twice. I didn't need to improven it. 137 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 5: Really because at the at the combine. Now he's a 138 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 5: person working. You got realized. Coach Cavill was my coach Wall. 139 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 5: He was the opposing coach in the in the senior. 140 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 5: So that's why he made it his business to come 141 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 5: to my personal wonder, if. 142 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: I wonder if you church that number up for you, 143 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: because that's the fastest time we've got because I've always 144 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: heard the four four eight, I wonder. 145 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh was like, man, we really like him. 146 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: I ain't none of the first of all if they 147 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: really liked me when they make it high, so nobody. 148 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: Else for them, it's for them internally, you know. That's there. 149 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 4: I listened when I came up out of that dude, listen, 150 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 4: I'm talking about running. So even my screens comed like, boy, 151 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 4: I hurt my neck trying to keep. 152 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: Up situ way. 153 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 4: Every man of one seventy three, probably one I forget you. 154 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 4: Probably I never forget the first time we you know, 155 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 4: after you get drafted and stuff, they bring out bring 156 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 4: out the rookies in and they was like fin a 157 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 4: weigh us and we was in the weight room and 158 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 4: I seen. 159 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 3: That five pound weight torab. 160 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 2: I just grabbed it right quick, put it right here. 161 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: One of the things I love about the combine and 162 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: when guys committed for free agent work is the same 163 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: thing is they like, uh, it's like, oh, we gotta 164 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: get you on the scale. 165 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: So little guys are like. 166 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: Nah no, and then big guys are like no, nobody 167 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: don't want to. 168 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: Get on the scale. Guys want to be like, we 169 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: don't measure up. 170 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 4: I guess at the time, but then I relap you 171 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 4: in a bit shape of your life. Yeah, just finish 172 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 4: your senior year copy like putting on way ain't gonna 173 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 4: be your thing. 174 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: Like there's some guys who are gonna talk about later. Yeah, 175 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: like at the combine. Yeah, and it doesn't matter what 176 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: they run doesn't matter. It's just couldn't with this number 177 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: on the scale. 178 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: We hate they scale. 179 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 3: The scale is a funny thing. 180 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 2: What did you wait? Wait? Would you wait? 181 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: Dude? 182 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: I wait at my pro day, I wait to sixty eight. 183 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: That's why they want you to be a tap well, dude. 184 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: I remember getting calls from like Seattle, from New England. 185 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: They were like, what's the most you ever weigh? And 186 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: most every waits like two seventy seven? Yeah, and I 187 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: was like two seventy seven. They're like, that's it. I 188 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: guess they thought I was like three ten on film. Yeah, 189 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: so it's gonna speak to my forty when a man 190 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: has it if she has it on there. 191 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 6: I was going to say, the information I got was 192 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 6: a four eighty nine. 193 00:07:58,520 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 3: That's pretty good. 194 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: That's better than I thought, So I'll take that a 195 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: big foot. 196 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 7: It's a little unsure whether that's correct or. 197 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: Not because it was out of proda, but yeah, I 198 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: think that's what I have. Most NFL teams have a 199 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: four eight nine or a four nine one for me. 200 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: My grandmama ran a fl eight. 201 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 3: I mean I was, I was two seventy. I weigh 202 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: one hundred pounds more than you. 203 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: Listen, don't don't don't do that because you know I 204 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: played in SEC all. I'd be lying on four five. 205 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: You know what? 206 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: Saying that is something crazy. I don't think fans understand that. 207 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: Like when you see like Amaryus Smims, when was that 208 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: two years ago? Yeah, so that man is six eight, 209 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: you're waiting at three. 210 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 8: Forty three three fifty, gon say three fifty and he 211 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 8: ran a five flat forty Yes, Trent Williams three twenty 212 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 8: waiting at the combine, Yes, ran a four to seven. 213 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 4: No, listen to me, this is when I moved. No, No, 214 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 4: this is when I have restract for a five flip. 215 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 4: You ever been in the city and the walking sidne 216 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 4: come on? Then that things say four sick and I 217 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 4: look and say. 218 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 2: Shit, I'm nothing to make So did I'd be like, damn, 219 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: we was running it. 220 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: We were running forty yards Yeah, in under five seconds. 221 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: That's unbelievable. 222 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: I was at my brother in law, my my brother 223 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: in law's wedding. So when he's getting married. And I 224 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: got all the guys out there like, oh, I bet 225 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: you I can run at four eight, four nine. I 226 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: was like, I bet you five hundred dollars. None of you, 227 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: none of you can run a five to five. 228 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 229 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: And so these guys are all like, you know, military 230 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 3: people that are good. 231 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 2: Military people always. I raced one at the bobble. 232 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: Shop and so they come out and it's all, you 233 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: know six oh you know, I'm like, bro, it's hard. 234 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: And what's hard about it, too, is people fail to realize, 235 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: like even us as athletes, if you're not a runner 236 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: or someone that just runs just to run, when you 237 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: do it, just don't care what your time was before. 238 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: If you just get out there something to running forty, 239 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: it's difficult. It's hard. You're fighting trying to run the 240 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: time you ran before, or even get close to it. 241 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: That's why I tell you all the time I was 242 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: a sprinter, I understand what it takes to be fast, 243 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: to drive, you know, different phases of running. I'm not 244 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: finna try it as an old guy. Blow screen off 245 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: the bottle, tip my head off to dal Green because 246 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: dalle Green is still out there doing it at fifty one, 247 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: sixty plus. Now he ever been of hated bro I 248 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: tin my head off to him. But that just shows 249 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: you that he's staying his muscle memory and everything that 250 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 2: he's doing. He's still still I'm not running like that. 251 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 4: I just work out right about if they had the 252 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 4: oldest fastest man in the world, we win. 253 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: You know what's crazy is like I do some forty preps, 254 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, for the drafts and stuff, and it is 255 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: so like if you haven't had a track background, Yeah, 256 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: it's so hard to get dudes to do it in 257 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: that position understanding how it should feel right because they 258 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: don't have any. 259 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: Reps at it. 260 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: Even with a track background, Like getting in the forty 261 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: you really not that's not track because you know what 262 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: I'm saying, you like, if you have a track background, 263 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 2: you're putting two hands down and you're coming out the 264 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: back there. So getting in one and doing all this, 265 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: you're like, what the hell is this? 266 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: So that's one of my big pet peeves is when 267 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: you go to these combines. If you're a young person 268 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: and you go to a combine gym and they prep 269 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: you like you're coming out of the blocks where they 270 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: say like. 271 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 3: Two foot put it's a different totally start. 272 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 4: So just I think it's a good forty rounder, you know, 273 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 4: after their first ten yards. 274 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: With you first, especially especially if they're calling it out 275 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: like that's what the luxury we had. When I ran 276 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: one through, when they say one three, in my head, 277 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm flying, yeah, and I can hear the 278 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: people in the stands. I'm already low. So when they 279 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: say one three and I'm like, whoa, one three, and 280 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 2: I'm like, I hear the people in the stands. It's 281 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: like you hear the stands moving like they're trying to 282 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 2: get to the finish line to see and I come up. 283 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: But I was just like, my damn, my momentum just yeah, 284 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: you know, catapulling me through. And it was funny because 285 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 2: I did slightly pull my hamstring and you know when 286 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 2: you move when you put a hamster in your ass moving, Yeah, 287 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: And I told everybody, I'm like, I done, I'm done. 288 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: And then I saw I hadn't even signed with my 289 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: agent yet. My dad and Drew was sitting in the 290 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: stands Drew's house. He want he wanted to accompany my dad. 291 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: He's still he working trying to get this, get his 292 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: you know, do all the things he got to do, 293 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: not all his eyes crossed, all his te's and he 294 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: was like, but he didn't even know I had none. 295 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 2: I knew I wanted to tell nobody, and he was like, 296 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: if I wasn't, I won't do nothing else. And I 297 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 2: told my dad, you heard my agent. That was the 298 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: day I told you the agent. Jue like, oh and boom, 299 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. People were like, damn, Tanna, 300 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 2: it's a rap. But this way, I give you your 301 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: props because if you ever looked at the. 302 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 4: Fastest times come bye and ran at the uh private workouts, 303 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 4: besides you and Chris Johnson, the running back, none of 304 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 4: these guys were good. 305 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a couple of guys that are good, but 306 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: they're you're right, like, uh, like Mitchell ran like a 307 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: four to three one, but our guys that are fast. 308 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: John Ross ran fast. 309 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 3: But the fastest guys. 310 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: They can't play the game. 311 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 4: So for him, but I say, his theme was just 312 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 4: as fast as I am, I'm quick too, and the 313 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 4: other it was usually don't be quick. 314 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: I played with Troy Wiz, you mean when. 315 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 4: He blazed the forty and I remember checking him the 316 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 4: first day of practice. 317 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: I said, he thinks. And that's one of the things 318 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: that's crazy because I remember as a receiver in college, 319 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: my receiver coach C J. Curtis Johnson. I love that dude, boy. 320 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 2: Like it's like when I tell you, when I say 321 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: everything that that that was instilled in me from there. 322 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: It took me throughout my whole fourteen years as a pro, like, 323 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: no one taught me nothing more than he did. If 324 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 2: they did, they taught me something that he had already, 325 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 2: they had it to the pith. But the one thing 326 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: he's always saying, we had to do name Darryl Jones. 327 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 2: That was man, bro. We had to run a hundred. 328 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: I'll be watching him, that's how fast he was. But 329 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 2: he kicked that sixty. And he's be like, it's no way. 330 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: But and that's the thing. He was like, it's no 331 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: way that y'all both get fast. But I know you 332 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: fast when I watch you run routes. I watched you run, 333 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: he said, your routs look just as fast as your forty. Yeah, Darryl, 334 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: I don't see it. You you deally daling around. And then, 335 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, he had to learn how to 336 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: be fast running the route. He's a he's a he's 337 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 2: a sprinter, he's a he's one hundred, two hundred four 338 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: hundred runner, come from Texas. He run with the he 339 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: run with the best of him. He gonna dig. But 340 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 2: he didn't know how to translate that to the football field. 341 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: And now, don't get me wrong. Now you put him 342 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: on the go route, he gonna be gonna he gonna 343 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: bomb you, he gonna gas you. But when you get 344 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: that ball in your hand, when you got to take 345 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: off from that five yards gotta look like a go route, 346 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: When that when that curl got looked like that go route, 347 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: when that post gotta look like you know what I 348 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: mean Like, you have to know how to put all 349 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: that into what you do between those white lines. And 350 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: so he said, he always said, Tanner, you translate your 351 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: speed and your routes and everything you do. That's what's 352 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: gonna make you dangerous because people don't know what you 353 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: do when you're coming off your line. You know, come 354 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: off the line. 355 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: So it's interesting, like I played with the guy who 356 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: in college, you broke the California hundred mets record for 357 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: an under eighteen person. 358 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: So like a ten to one, which is in. 359 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: High school, he burning rubbers. 360 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: He could run out and save his life, you know 361 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: what I mean? Because again he can't stop, can't start, 362 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: none of that. Even like like Matthew Slater, you know 363 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: he played for the Patriots. He was like a he 364 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: was like a twenty point something in the two hundred 365 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: guy in high school. 366 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know he were like a four to 367 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 3: four you know. 368 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: And again like it just took him a time to 369 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: get moved. And again it works when you're the gunner. 370 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: I mean obviously you know pro bowg Yeah right, yeah, 371 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: So but anyway, man, is that all the forty times 372 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: you got or we got sewn. 373 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 2: Ja's forty time? Is what I want to know? 374 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 7: There's one secret speedster London. 375 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 4: Thirty eight yards die heel at junk hare, don't care. 376 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: I had to get somebody in the league. 377 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: They have how much you wait on there by any chance? 378 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: Like you want to talk about hand tie like. 379 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: It's a scout, the scout is there? 380 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: No? It was junk here, coach, Listen to me. That's 381 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: how much hate? Because lie, lie, lie, lie like that. 382 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 4: If my mama clocked me, what do you think the time 383 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 4: go fast? S? 384 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 2: If it stay clocked me? You talked about my dog 385 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: like that. I London went faster than you. 386 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 4: Sheryl clocked me for the ly do you not think 387 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 4: he gonna shave off three tents some a second for 388 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 4: his boy? 389 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: What he gonna do it? John Care? 390 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 7: Did it to Google? 391 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 6: Ai London was five ten, two hundred and forty two pounds. 392 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 2: Dude, four three eight at that that was was coming 393 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: like a bowling ball. Your build like a booker. 394 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 3: I checked this out like a booker. 395 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I check this out. All I'm saying how many? 396 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 4: Same time they say he did two twenty five sixty times? 397 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: Well I want to. 398 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 4: Know, because you know people gonna be up. Come on, 399 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 4: you remember we was in high school. I remember I 400 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 4: looked at one of the books. You know how they 401 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 4: had a book they had me in there sixty three. 402 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: I ain't not be You know what's crazy is so 403 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: like we do we have to do for high school kids. 404 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: We have to do like propositions for you know, like 405 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: why they deserve to be all stayed or whatever. I 406 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: remember one year we came in and like I was 407 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: with the head coach and he goes, oh, this man, 408 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: we only played ten games, mind you, two hundred and 409 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: fifty tackles and I was like. 410 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 3: One, and so you're like what, like you know, like 411 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 3: you just you it's your boy, it's your kid. 412 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 2: It always had to be. In high school. 413 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 4: I remember somebody like, hey man, we got to play 414 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 4: against this kid. I heard it like six six three 415 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 4: and fifty five eight r dude. 416 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,239 Speaker 2: Six to what this is what you got me out 417 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 2: of hip fun. 418 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 4: All I'm saying is propaganda. John Carroll need to be 419 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 4: brought up. We need to check Fletcher's file, like our 420 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 4: stuff certified with coaches. 421 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 3: And other stuff I have certified. 422 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 4: Why do we take his word? Why do we take 423 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 4: his coaches word? Why do we take anybody word? 424 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 2: From Ohio? 425 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 4: I want the outside of the town I can go to. 426 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: But I will say this, he proved it between them 427 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: and there he can run. 428 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: That boy ran. 429 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: That boy ran. We had to hit Brandon Jays and 430 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 2: play he ran receivers and everybody else. I told you 431 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: I got about London when I was a jet. You 432 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: told Lewis I didn't know who he was. You know, 433 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 2: I didn't. I had no clue. I tell you know. 434 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 2: I was ten years in the league and didn't have 435 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 2: to know some of these guys was playing against But 436 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: it was just funny because London had already want to suit. 437 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 2: He had one bowl already. He was one of the 438 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: star linebackers in the league. So I catch a scene 439 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 2: on the left side playing against Buffalo. London was at 440 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 2: Buffalo now, and I turned all the way around. You 441 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 2: know how it is when you're running that scene and 442 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 2: you on the slot and the ball thrown shorts, you 443 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: got to turn around instead of just catching it like this, 444 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 2: I spun all the way around, and all I remember 445 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 2: is knowing that the guy who I beat he was 446 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 2: on my outside. So I'm running like I just got 447 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 2: to beat him, and I'm scoring. So I'm running in 448 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 2: the diagonal, you know, I'm running to cross crossfield and 449 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 2: I just first somebody tripped me up. I'm like, who 450 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: caught me? I get to the sameline Mont Louis like, 451 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: they say you was fast. So they say you was fast. 452 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, we have like damn boy lineback and 453 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 2: court you. I said a line and I do remember 454 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: seeing when I got up. It was a fifty nine 455 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 2: around but a lot of guys around by that time. 456 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 2: So I was like, they were like, they say, under 457 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 2: Fletcher got you. I was like Fletcher. So, like I 458 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: said to my offense, I played with it. I had 459 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: to go this way. So I batally and then he 460 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: was in. He was they was coming to a man. 461 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: I looked at him on film was running. Look up 462 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 2: Shutting Springs for it. 463 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 3: Please think I looked this up the other day. He 464 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 3: had like a forty inch vertical like he was explosive. 465 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 4: Listen, he was supposed to be God's gifted defensive backs man. 466 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: He was the highest drafted that. I love Travis Hunter 467 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: because he can't beat him. 468 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 4: I checked this out A four three five. 469 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 2: It might just be friends. Don't y'all know Bluefoot didn't 470 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 2: have he had. 471 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 4: This is what he told me, right because I talked, 472 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 4: you talk trash to it. I like, how you the 473 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 4: highest draft the dB and you ain't had no picks 474 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 4: in college like zero, They never threw. 475 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 2: I never gave it. 476 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 4: And listen, forty is vertical for three at two hundred. 477 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 4: You know how he was building two hundred. 478 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 2: Pounds like he had no in your career. 479 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 3: His whole career, he got as. 480 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 4: Many picks as a dead man in Ohio. You might 481 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 4: have one and it might be in the playoff game. No, 482 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 4: I'm telling you man, right now, your nephew got more picks. 483 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: That's crazy work, right, well, man, looks up. Let's play 484 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: some bells real quick. 485 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: Let's get the Brady bills. So I got big Bear yep. 486 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 4: When the mission is critical and readiness matters, Big Bear 487 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 4: dot ai delivers proven AI technology and expertise to help 488 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 4: safeguard national security and critical infrastructure. 489 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 2: That mission ready AI. 490 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 4: Big Bear dot ai official partner, the Washington Commanders. 491 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 3: Coming very strong, very strong. 492 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 2: I love it, Commanders fans, Your fandom just got an upgrade, 493 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 2: introducing the Triple A Commander's MVP Membership, where real fans 494 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 2: get real perks and same trusted Triple A membership benefits. 495 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: The new Triple A Commanders Membership provides a chance to 496 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 2: win game tickets, access to VIP events, and experiences fifteen 497 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 2: percent off Commander's online pro shop, while providing peace of 498 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: mind for Commander fans on the road. Already a Triple 499 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 2: A member, don't sit on the sideline. Upgrade your membership 500 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 2: joined today at Triple A dot com slash Commanders. 501 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 3: Dude, both of you excellent today. 502 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 2: Yeah that was good. I give them props all right. 503 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: So that we got the combine that's powered by Big 504 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: Bear AI Mission Ready AI for a rapidly evolving world. 505 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: And so let's so Combine week we just talked about 506 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: a little bit. I didn't go to the combine, but 507 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: you guys combine experiences. What is the importance of the combine? Tanna, 508 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: I know you had like a very unique experience in 509 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: your opinion, what's the important element. 510 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 2: Of the car? I mean, you know now that I 511 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: look back at it as a kid that had no 512 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 2: clue as a young twenty one year old, I'm still 513 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: a kid. Basically I had no clue. I was like, 514 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 2: why we go through all this? But then I thought 515 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: about it over the time of playing in the league 516 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 2: and then now sitting back at that point of our careers. 517 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: This is the one time that these teams are basically 518 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: you know, final Tally put up a lot of money 519 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: to get you to be I need to know what 520 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: the product down your team, so they have to understand. 521 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 2: It's almost like you're going to buy the house of 522 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 2: that car. I need to go look at it. I 523 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: have to get it appraise. I have to see what's 524 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 2: wrong with it, how much work needs to be done 525 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: to it before I say money, You know what I mean. 526 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: So that's that's to me, it's the ultimate reason why 527 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 2: the combine exists. I think they have to really put 528 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: us through the tests and say, does this guy does 529 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: everything measure up for me to go out here and 530 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: spend his money on him? And to me, that's the 531 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 2: ultimate reason. Now what I would say that, and I 532 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 2: don't want to get too far ahead of myself with 533 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 2: the money is giving out now in college? Do they 534 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: do something like that coming out of high school? Because 535 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: it's too much money giving to these kids to not 536 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: know what you're getting there just going by the stars. 537 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 2: If you got enough stars by your name, they gonna 538 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 2: give you. To tell me this fast forward now that 539 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: the cottage thing has changed, do we see an end 540 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 2: with some of this stuff? But the combine? Because if 541 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: the guy if look like a duck, walk like a duck, Yeah, 542 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 2: it's a duck, right, So if I see you all 543 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: out in college, that they would. 544 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 4: Never do that, because college it's like window shop. I 545 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 4: still gotta go try to shoot down because I seen 546 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 4: them on your feet and they were fresh. I gotta 547 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 4: see how they feel on mind. 548 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: So most of these kids, I've seen more kids now 549 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 2: that that what they've shown us in college, they kind 550 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: of come to this leading translate and it's looking the same, 551 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: you know. 552 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: So you know, what I find really interesting is when 553 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: you get really into the nitty gritty of scouting. What 554 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: what I find is that most of the guys that 555 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: are like top like in the first round box at 556 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, were like five star, top 557 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: level workers. So they've just kind of pulled that thread 558 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: all the way through. Like so Francis Mununguy the tackle 559 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: for now we know the tackle for Miami. 560 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 3: Yah. 561 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: So he was a five star from IMG Academy, so 562 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: he was playing college, went to Miami. 563 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, he started for four years like that dude, like 564 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 3: he fit the bill. 565 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: It's stable is you're gonna get. But see, that's easier 566 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 2: to me. 567 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 4: It's easier to grade the offensive lineman to say we'll 568 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 4: just translate than it is a wire receip even a 569 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 4: corner tight end. 570 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: So I was going to say that because I'm going 571 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: to say so that means for a guy like myself, 572 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: no star walk on and then you come out. You 573 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 2: rarely see those. 574 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: Come out of But you know what's crazy now is 575 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: you would go now that athlete would go to. 576 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 4: Uh cook me then go to my end then yeah. Yeah, 577 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 4: so you would have started as a freshman. 578 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: So everybody's got to So what what I find now 579 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: is that everybody like so for example, like a Flowers 580 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: a really good example. 581 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 3: It's like he went to a. 582 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: Like small D two, transferred to Boston College. So then 583 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: he transferred to like Middle Tennessee State and then Boston College. 584 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 3: Right, so like he liked hop in to like earn 585 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 3: his stars to move up. 586 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: So I do think that uh you went to yeah, 587 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: but it's even to me, it's even more. But it's 588 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: even more extreme now because it's like you are going 589 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: to a small college going to Richmond for example, Yeah 590 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: you please ball out there. You transferred to Virginia Tech. 591 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: Yeah you ball out of Virginia Tech. Then you transferred 592 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: to Power five to in state, yes, right, And like 593 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: that's kind of what the model is now. So I 594 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: do find that people who are like way like to 595 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: your point, the guys that were like one star, zero stars, 596 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: they're kind of the the new nil stuff is filtering 597 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: that stuff. 598 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 2: Out, getting them out quickly. 599 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 3: Yes, and to the top. 600 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: I was talking to a scout last year and he's 601 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: like Actually, it's become way easier for us because the 602 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: colleges are not from high school, but they're filtering through 603 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: all these years. 604 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: I think too, And I feel like I said, we 605 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: got off the top of a little bit. I feel 606 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: like too with the NIL thing. Now those those schools 607 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: that wasn't getting to town that are getting some of 608 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 2: this because now you're like, look, these guys are transfer 609 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: portals and all that other stuff going to these other schools. 610 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 2: Why would I go get a high school guy when 611 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 2: I can go when when I can go get a 612 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 2: guy who's already made. 613 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 4: But also a high school guy? Saying why would I 614 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 4: go sit on the bench at Alabama when I can 615 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 4: go over here and play and play right now and 616 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 4: get paid. 617 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely been interesting and somebodys I think it's 618 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: been good. I think it's harder on the college athlete. Fred, 619 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 1: So why do you think they come out to support me? 620 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 4: Like I say, I think the medica is important because 621 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 4: if I'm one of the thirty two teams and I'm 622 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 4: investing in this person, I need to know these seven people. 623 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 4: How many people I'm drafted, one healthy one got some 624 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 4: longevity in them? 625 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 2: Two you don't really know us till you. 626 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 4: Sit us down, and then you don't really know us 627 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 4: because you still need time around us. I want to 628 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 4: get to know the person a little bit. What make 629 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 4: you tick? Because I'm all about do you love football? 630 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 4: Do you love what football can do for you. It's 631 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 4: a big difference because I found through my time in 632 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 4: the league some guys kind of looked at football as 633 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 4: a hindrance, like I'm just doing it because I was 634 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 4: always meant to do it, Like you'll get some dudes 635 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 4: that's six six three thirty, I ain't. 636 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 2: This is what I had to do. But tell me this, though, 637 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: how many guys though you play with that was uber 638 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: talented but hated to do the stuff that we did 639 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 2: throughout the week. But it was still add up on 640 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: the field. And they'll show you that while they're here. Yeah, 641 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying, Like it's hard to me. 642 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 2: It's always been hard to judge when somebody's here because 643 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: of they love it or it's just beneficial from you 644 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 2: know what I mean. When you see him play like 645 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 2: with it's obvious while he's here. Yeah, But when I'm 646 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: in that weight room, when I'm doing this stuff off 647 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 2: the field, he's he's a no show you see. Yeah. Yeah. 648 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: The thing I find about that stuff specifically is I 649 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: feel like sometimes guys would like hide their work, you know, like. 650 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: Oh, do it else? 651 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, like d Jack, like I never saw him 652 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 3: do like extra. 653 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 2: Stunning and stuff in it. 654 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: But but he would never make mistakes and practice stuff. 655 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,959 Speaker 1: And then like you know Bruce Smith, you know, like 656 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: he would he would study separate from the group. And 657 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: I remember there was a coach here that knew him well, 658 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: and he was like, why don't you share all this 659 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: stuff with the young guys. He's like, I don't want to, 660 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: and he the coach felt it was because he didn't 661 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: want the other kids to know that he was working hard, 662 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: you know. So like there, if you're sticking around for 663 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: a long time, you you got some type of. 664 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 2: I think some guys too, like Fred. And I never 665 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 2: was in a meeting room with Fred, but I could 666 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: just only imagine Smooth in the meeting room. He's smart 667 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 2: as hell. So we see how he does up when 668 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: we come in here with this we go over screed. 669 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: He sometimes you're not even here and he coming in them 670 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 2: up jump right and yeah, I know this there randomfied 671 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: to some guys just get it, you see what I'm saying, 672 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: Like you can throw it in the air, they catch 673 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: it and they don't have to go through the book. 674 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: So I look at d jacks More one of those 675 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: kinds of guys because I'm setting them. I send those 676 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 2: meeting rooms where he just knew it. You know what 677 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 2: I mean, you put it on the board and run 678 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: my position that Okay, I got it. So I would 679 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: look at Fred and Smooth and some way because I 680 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: didn't see smooth as no in the gym. I'm in 681 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 2: the gym. I'm doing the stuff on the side. I'm 682 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: out there early. I'm doing different things that I feel 683 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: like psychologically helped me. Yeah, my bred once you own 684 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: one flip flop on pants and then when the whistle blown, 685 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 2: he you know. So it's certain guys like like like Porters, 686 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: Clinton Port's freaking nature when it comes to I don't 687 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: want to do this, he got a port. I ain't 688 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: trying to do that today. He'll come out there in 689 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: flats and really the coach had to tell them to 690 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 2: go in. You're doing man, I'm walking, I'm gonna practice 691 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: with these on and I'm like cod one sixty come Sunday. 692 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. So it's certain guys that 693 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: can that can you know, they can go unscathe sometime 694 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: when it comes to the different things that a guy 695 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 2: like me and you're gonna be more conscious of. 696 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: You know, I do feel like that that type of player, 697 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: and I don't know have a good reason as to 698 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: why it's not in the league as much anymore like 699 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: the guys that are. 700 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 2: You know, because these guys here, most of these kids 701 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: come from parents that either made it or didn't make it. 702 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: And the parent that didn't make it, they like, well, 703 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 2: such and such did this when I was in when 704 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 2: I was coming up with him, So I'm putting my 705 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 2: kid through all this. So now that kid is training program. 706 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 2: Then the parents that did make it, Hey, you want 707 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 2: to get ahead, you got to do more than what 708 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 2: he's going to be. And they then had a better 709 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: training structure than we had. They had the money to 710 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: do it too. We didn't have the We don't have 711 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 2: the training structure. Hey man, meet me and the screen. 712 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: We're gonna play football. The trains, that's all. Hey man. 713 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 4: These kid, my son and them, they didn't had training 714 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 4: since they was ten years old, so the environment is 715 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 4: not new to them, like putting them in a full 716 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 4: tilt environment. 717 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 2: They I'm used to it. 718 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 4: Like right now, every weekend I'm at the Saint James 719 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 4: ce mom Sell they high end. These quarterbacks are passing 720 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 4: the ball three hundred times before we leave out. 721 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: Of here on any given weekend. They are literally a 722 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: little ahead of where we were. Like Santana. Probably they 723 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 2: just I'm just throwing it out here. 724 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 4: Probably didn't catch his thousand ball until he was a 725 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 4: junior in college. 726 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: My son kind of thousand ball is a tenth grade 727 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: that's real because in high school I caught barely won 728 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 2: a game. You see what I'm saying. So, but that's 729 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 2: what I'm saying though, It's just it's more out there, 730 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 2: especially with the Internet and all that stuff, like it's now. 731 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 2: It's parents are like, I'm not gonna fail my kid. 732 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 2: If this is what he want to do, We're finna 733 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 2: go all out. When we was coming up, go to 734 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 2: our side. What you're doing, well, get out my face. Yes, 735 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: that was my code every day. Get out my face, 736 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: get at my house and stop using it football. And 737 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: I grabbed my bike and I'm gone. I'm gonna go 738 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: get me a football game. I could ride down any 739 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 2: block and we're gonna get on. We can get it 740 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 2: on the street as long as you got three guys. 741 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: I got two and me going to get on these 742 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 2: kids now, I gotta go to I gotta go to 743 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: i EG. You know they got these these academies everything. 744 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: We going to France. We're doing the seven on seven 745 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 2: this weekend. Like we ain't have all that, you know 746 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 747 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's right. 748 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: But I think like what you're getting at there ten 749 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: is something that the Combine do just. 750 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 3: Tries to parse out. 751 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: It's like, what kind of what's your background, what's your 752 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: lineage with the game, what's your passion for the game? Obviously, 753 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: what's the medical implications? And I think really like Fred, 754 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: like Fred was saying and Antenna said it also like 755 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: that's the crux of the Combine, Like everyone watches the forty, 756 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: everyone watches. 757 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 4: But they don't see us in the hospital giving Do 758 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 4: y'all think it's fair? 759 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 2: I always thought this. I was like, y'all putting us 760 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 2: behind the eight ball. 761 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 4: Do you think it's fair to take two leaders of 762 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 4: my blood and team me to go do the bitch print. 763 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 3: Dude, I think what I think looked at like that. 764 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: If I if I was, if I was an agent 765 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: and my guy was solidified, I'd like, go to the 766 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: medical go to the interviews, we'll test the protein. And 767 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: so like when Kayleb Williams did that a couple years ago, 768 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: everyone was freaking out about it, Like to me, that 769 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: is the way to do it, because you're it's not 770 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: it's only it's not only the medical stuff. Like I 771 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: remember when, like this was two years ago, I was 772 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: walking through the convention center. It's just a huge convention 773 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: center coming back from dinner. It was like ten thirty, 774 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: go back to the hotel and I'm walking through and 775 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: then I bump into some guys that I trained. I'm like, 776 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: what are you guys doing? You guys should be in bed. 777 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: You got a forty tomorrow, Like, oh, we got interviews 778 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,959 Speaker 1: right now. So they're they're interviewing with a team at 779 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: eleven and they're gonna run at ten am the next. 780 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, So is it like are you putting me 781 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 2: at a do you feel? But there? They are putting 782 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 2: you at a disadvent. They want to see how can 783 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 2: you work under this condition? Ye? Like they want to 784 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: see how you operate amongst all these other guys that 785 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 2: they're taking me. 786 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,719 Speaker 4: You'll get a bone mare like they doing stuff to you. 787 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 2: Then they say I won't peak performance the nick day. 788 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 2: Ultimately feel trying to see can he go through? Can 789 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: he overcome? Can he overcome this stuff? Because it's not easy, 790 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 2: it's not meant to be easy. And like I say, 791 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: you can either be naive like I was and just say, hey, 792 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 2: I gotta do it because I have to do it, 793 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 2: or you could be a guy that I'm pretty sure 794 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 2: fred like he said he in line. Next thing he 795 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,919 Speaker 2: heard every guy, I couldn't tell you what they said 796 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: about my medical let alone somebody else medical. You see 797 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I got on stage and I'm my 798 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 2: head clear. I'm just like, all I'm thinking about is man, 799 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 2: hope my boxes don't fall over? You know what I mean? 800 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 2: Because excellent, because I let this one said I got 801 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 2: boxer shorts on and basically naked just boxes. Tell you 802 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 2: the strip up on. It's like we gotta no. I 803 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 2: didn't know, bro, it's serious. So I'm sitting there like, oh, 804 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 2: I gotta be naked in front of the people, but 805 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 2: not literally, But I'm just saying. So I'm in there 806 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 2: and Chad and he Chad with Fred, he didn't up 807 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 2: talking to me, and he like, boy the boy, Yeah, 808 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 2: that boy Miami rocking up a little bit. Look at 809 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 2: them working the boy living wakes down there, and I'm 810 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 2: sitting here like this ship is crazy. Like I'm not 811 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 2: even trying to listen to him. I'm like, bro, we're 812 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 2: finna be naked on stage. Yeah, in front of every 813 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 2: gym in the league. And it's more than just gyms. 814 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 3: And people. 815 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 2: Coaches like scouts, so it's just full of people. Man. 816 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 2: So that's what I think. I think they put it. 817 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,479 Speaker 2: They put us through a lot, Don't get me wrong. 818 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 2: I think what me and Fred both said it is 819 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: about the medical and about the appraisal of the the 820 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 2: athlete you getting. But I also think they're putting you 821 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 2: through a lot of stuff to see if this is 822 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 2: going to make you do something different than on film, 823 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Can't this guy make it 824 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 2: through this stuff and still be able to be productive 825 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 2: come come when it's time to go run and do 826 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 2: everything else. And that's another reason too, I believe back then, 827 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 2: when it wasn't the whole pro day thing that everybody do. Now, 828 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 2: I think that's why the San fran coach not knowing 829 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 2: that he didn't know, I mean scout, he didn't know. 830 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 2: I was a big die Hard fort ninety fan. But 831 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 2: I think that's why he tried to pull my card 832 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 2: a little bit, like, Oh, I'm not showing up at 833 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 2: your pro date. You need to you need to do 834 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 2: that out here. And like I said, you're gonna you're 835 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 2: gonna miss out. Yeah, but get what if you don't 836 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 2: go to the comeby. 837 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 4: This is how it was when we was coming out 838 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 4: in O one, which I feel like one of the 839 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 4: best draft classes all time. David Terrill was was was 840 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 4: shlotted as the number one receiver and you remember how 841 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 4: he was carrying hisself like he was like we was 842 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 4: peasants beneath him, and I'm telling them he ain't the 843 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 4: best receiver in the draft. 844 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 2: I'm like, he ain't got a chance against me. He 845 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 2: ain't good. 846 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 4: And when we got to the league, at all these 847 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 4: receivers that went first round, he did not ball out. 848 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 2: So that's why to come by the need. But if 849 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 2: you look at this. 850 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 4: College state at Michigan, he taking guys down through them. 851 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 4: So how how do you know when you buying a 852 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 4: used shoe and you not buying a US shoe. 853 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 2: Because David Terrill was a youth, I will I will 854 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 2: say this too, and it's just to me and cause 855 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 2: it's just like one of the things that I've learned, 856 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 2: like a placement is key. So because DT. I remember DT, 857 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 2: me and him hung out a lot, going to the 858 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 2: drive and I was a big fan of him while 859 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 2: he was in Michigan. He always watched me, and I 860 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 2: remember when I ran that forty and everybody caught win 861 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 2: up before I left the left the field. I was 862 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 2: getting called David, like, you're trying to miss my draft 863 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,439 Speaker 2: status up, man, I heard you just ran foe too. 864 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, but I think they're gonna round it, 865 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But still that's the same 866 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 2: thing I was getting the year when they told me 867 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 2: to come out as a junior Peter Wart when it asks, hey, Tanny, 868 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 2: you coming out because if you run fast, that's gonna 869 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 2: shift things. Everybody knew I was already you know, sloted 870 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 2: to be a first round guy even my junior year. 871 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 2: So when you look at that isn't necessarily best for 872 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 2: that person that runs well, that had a great cottage 873 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 2: career to go to some of them, sorry, as teams 874 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 2: that early. You see what I'm saying. I feel like 875 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 2: David Terrell was one of those guys that he went 876 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 2: to Chicago and it didn't paying out. Chicago wasn't and 877 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 2: maybe it was, but he's always been to me, he 878 00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 2: fit the mode of the kind of receiver they had 879 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 2: back then and the big body. Cause think about it, 880 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 2: Remember they had that dude Machine Muhammad was the ball. 881 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 2: But I'm just saying like he wasn't at Chicago, he 882 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 2: was in Carolina. Remember he was in Chicago first. Remember 883 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 2: the other dude, Yeah he was Remember the other dude too. 884 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 2: They had about three or four big Michael Booker. They 885 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 2: had dudes, they had Booker. Yeah. But so to me, 886 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 2: that's just my take on things. Is it always fitting 887 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 2: for that guy who was the top receiver to go 888 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 2: to certain teams because maybe that was a team that 889 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 2: had enough big guys that he didn't fit what they 890 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 2: were trying to do. 891 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 4: Because they need to give and take of being successful 892 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 4: in college. You gonna go to the worst. 893 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 2: Same way with the quarterback, you know, the worst team. 894 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's a tough it's a tough process. 895 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 2: Man. 896 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: In the fifth element is really important. I mean, we 897 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: feel that when we do our drive to the draft, 898 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: we do our picks like I'm like, man, I hope 899 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 1: this player goes here because going to help out like. 900 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 2: This, LeVar aired one of the best period athletes I 901 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 2: ever played with. 902 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 4: If LeVar is drafted to the Pittsburgh he's a hall 903 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 4: of different because now he's playing at the line of 904 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 4: st and he's just blitzing, like let the dog loose. 905 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 2: Don't have him thinking. It's basically too like and this 906 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 2: is probably out of context a little bit, but it's 907 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 2: basically like how when we watched the new DC speak 908 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 2: about Louis Yeah, hey, I've been watching this guy. I 909 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 2: want to see him coming down here. What we said 910 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 2: all last year, we didn't like what we saw. They 911 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 2: not setting him up to be he was the year before, 912 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,280 Speaker 2: taking punches. You see what I'm saying. So that's Santana 913 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 2: Moss go to the New York Jets. The New York 914 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 2: Jets like, yeah, I like what he does your receiver, 915 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,919 Speaker 2: but I want him as a part returner. Guess what 916 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 2: I'm more They trying to display that talent more than 917 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 2: so than the receiver. They're not finally get out that receiver. 918 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,399 Speaker 2: And I'm starting to you know, get you know, show 919 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 2: everybody that oh this, Oh nah, we really want you 920 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 2: to be over here doing this, And I'm like, nah, 921 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 2: how you gonna take away from what I can do 922 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,479 Speaker 2: for you offensively? So when a team is not really 923 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 2: trying to allow you to be show to show showcase 924 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 2: what you have, it's not fitting for that guy. So 925 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 2: that's when when you come over here or you go 926 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 2: elsewhere like I did. I came here and folks like, well, 927 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 2: damn why they don't get me wrong, I did show 928 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 2: that I had a thousand yard season there, but they 929 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,399 Speaker 2: wasn't trying to stand they a special team. 930 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, if it's place some Bill's boys, Yeah, 931 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: break too. 932 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 2: Break too. Uller up teams. It's time to call or 933 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 2: winter audible because when the temps drop, the real magic 934 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 2: kicks off. In West Virginia. Think trails that crunch like 935 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 2: game day turf ski runs for every level of fan, 936 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 2: and cozy cabins that won't break your budget, trade lift 937 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 2: line chaos for wide open slopes like cocoa breaks by 938 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 2: crackling fires and mountains dressed to impress and a white blanket, 939 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 2: a pure in a blanket of pure white. I see 940 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 2: your logan, rap, your squad pack, your cold weather swag, 941 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 2: and head's almost having this winter West Virginia. 942 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 3: I wasn't even doing it. 943 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 2: I saw because I know. 944 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 9: I know who got you looking, because he over there 945 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 9: doing something that way. 946 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 2: You got to know how to do it underpressure. He 947 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 2: switched it. No, when he's he that West Virginia, he 948 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 2: goes straight. G Wheeler. 949 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 4: How does it feel when you switch to guy Co 950 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 4: and save one of your car insurance? It's like finding 951 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 4: a parking spot in front of a busy outdoor cafe 952 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 4: where you mean, some of your old friends from college, 953 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 4: and you're about to parallel parking to an oh so 954 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 4: tight spot, and then everyone in the cafe stops to watch. 955 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 4: I see y'all watch, and you nail it in one try, 956 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 4: Like the parallel parking baller. You are nobody clapped, but 957 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 4: you know they really wanted to. 958 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 2: Yep. Switching and saving with gout Co feels just like that. 959 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 2: Get more with Geico. 960 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 3: That was good? That was good? 961 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 2: You know what? Man good? 962 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 4: Probably the only podcand a hell like like read. 963 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: All right, So, uh, combine make or Break, brought to 964 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 1: you by the US Army. Be tested not just on paper. 965 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 1: Be strong and more than muscle, Be courageous and supported 966 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: by a mighty team. Be all you can be. Visit 967 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: gome dot com to learn more. Okay, So basically these 968 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: are we're gonna start with some offensive guys here. Yeah, 969 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 1: that I think the combine is incredibly important for like 970 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: kind of make or break Okay, obviously, right, and again, 971 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: like one of the things I want to talk about 972 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 1: here is like the different elements of the combine that 973 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: are gonna be important for these individuals, right. 974 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 4: Because you feel like it's always gonna be these come 975 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 4: by heroes every year, every year because automatical letter was 976 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 4: ours than one. He came there, He bench pressed two 977 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 4: twenty five thirty times. I think he ran a four 978 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 4: to three four crushed it. He was same machine. 979 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: So I think the tackles are a really good example. 980 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: So the two, the two we're gonna start with offensive line. 981 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: The two tackles are. One is Caden Proctor from Alabama, Adabama, big. 982 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 3: Old hoss six six. 983 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 2: He looked heavy. 984 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,399 Speaker 3: He is, I mean he's three seventy, so he is yeah, 985 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 3: he's heavy. And then and then Monroe Frieling from Georgia, 986 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 3: he's six seven, he's three fifteen, a little bit more 987 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 3: conventional built. So what I would say with Caden Proctors, 988 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,399 Speaker 3: everyone says, oh, like, you know, was he gonna run 989 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 3: a fast forty? 990 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 1: Is you gonna interview? To me, the important thing for 991 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: Caden Proctor is what do you weigh? Because his sophomore 992 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: year he weighed four to fifteen. 993 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 3: He lost some. 994 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: Weight mag God struggled a little bit early this season 995 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: against Florida State. They said he was a little bit 996 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: over three seventy. Yeah, he lost a bunch of weight, 997 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: got into that four like the high forties, low fifties, 998 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: and turned of like three forty three fifty and looked 999 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: like a totally different player. So to me, like, you 1000 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,879 Speaker 1: know this is coming up, are you in shape? Have 1001 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: you lost weight? Because we've all played with dudes standam 1002 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: yeah that can't control their weight, And to me, that 1003 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: is one of the biggest red flags with offensive lineman. 1004 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,439 Speaker 3: You could be like this a freak. 1005 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 1: He's gonna run probably around a five flat fort He's 1006 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,360 Speaker 1: gonna jump over thirty, which is huge for the defensive lineman. 1007 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: He's gonna do the thing. 1008 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 2: But if you already been four hundred, I haven't seen 1009 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 2: the worst you can be here. But you know what 1010 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 2: I'm saying though, But but money, And I could say 1011 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 2: the picture of a guy who's been four hundred and 1012 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,240 Speaker 2: not getting a couple of dollars in his pocket. 1013 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 3: But I mean, that's the thing of these guys a 1014 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 3: getting they have. 1015 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 2: They have money. He's getting paid money. So money ain't 1016 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 2: the thing, but the freedom. But the freedom that was. 1017 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,399 Speaker 3: A rumor, by the way, I give rumor he was four. 1018 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 2: Fe don't care if you were three eighty, like that's 1019 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 2: he gonna be five. 1020 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 4: That's told a lot of That's told a lot of 1021 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 4: way he's gonna if I hear like the first thing. 1022 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 4: And I know y'all will be like what you asking 1023 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 4: him about this? For if I was a Scot, I'll. 1024 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 2: Be a man you play video game? If he said, yes, 1025 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 2: I ain't drafted my end and so so what I 1026 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,360 Speaker 2: would do as an agent for a guy like that. 1027 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 2: Once I lock in and I'm his agent, I'm letting 1028 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 2: him know you forever gonna be on. I'm gonna have die, 1029 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 2: have you on a diet for you the rest of 1030 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,399 Speaker 2: training with you, and my agency would because we ain't 1031 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 2: making no money off you. If you ain't in, you 1032 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 2: ain't you're gonna make the weight if you get four 1033 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 2: thirty from here. Once you get drafted to them first game, 1034 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,919 Speaker 2: we screwed you, see what I'm saying. So I'm gonna 1035 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 2: put somebody on you a nutrition that's gonna make sure 1036 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 2: you eat the right things. Now, look as long as 1037 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,879 Speaker 2: you eat, as long as you But. 1038 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 1: I think he's an interesting guy because to me, it's 1039 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 1: not I think he's gonna interview fine. I think he's 1040 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 1: gonna test fine, is this. 1041 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 2: Our way skill? Because we all don't get that, man. 1042 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 2: And I think that's another thing that these guys have 1043 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,919 Speaker 2: more more so than we did the agents back then. 1044 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,359 Speaker 2: I can't. I'm not talking about my agent specifically, because 1045 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 2: I think my agent did a great job. But I 1046 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,399 Speaker 2: think a lot of guys who I've spoken to, these 1047 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,399 Speaker 2: agentsies got players and say, okay, they were kind of hands. 1048 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 2: We did our party, Now go play football. Agent would 1049 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 2: give me nuggets. You need to do this, hey, Tannery. 1050 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 2: They called and asked about this, and I had a 1051 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 2: lot of problem when I first hurt my knee, so 1052 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 2: it was mostly off me just hurting my knee, and 1053 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 2: they were still trying to find out who I was 1054 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 2: because I kind of was already a guy if you 1055 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 2: saw spoken and then you go through something that's catsh 1056 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 2: traffic to you like that, Like I never missed football, 1057 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 2: so this is my first year and then I'm away 1058 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 2: from home. All type of shit was going on in 1059 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 2: my head. So they was more concerned with my mentor 1060 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 2: not knowing that. I'm shocked. I'm good. I'm just down 1061 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 2: right now. I can't I can't be useful to you. 1062 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 2: So if you ain't talking to me, then I'm gonna 1063 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,359 Speaker 2: definitely shut down. I'm already not speaking out, so if 1064 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 2: you're not asking me questions, you ain't gonna never know. 1065 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,399 Speaker 2: So I had a good agent when it came time 1066 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 2: just let me know what was going on. A lot 1067 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,760 Speaker 2: of these agents not up in personal with they guys 1068 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 2: and telling them like, look, getting a little too big, 1069 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 2: you may be hanging out too long, lay off on 1070 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 2: the liquor, like you know what I mean, tell the 1071 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 2: girlfriend to stay home, and she came with a lot 1072 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 2: of things. These agents, to me, I think nowadays, would 1073 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 2: do for these guys. Knowing that it's a different world. 1074 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 2: This right here, this phone sees it all. I can 1075 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:57,839 Speaker 2: go on here right now and see what you're doing. 1076 00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,879 Speaker 2: I type in your name and say, let me see 1077 00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 2: what he got going on. Yeah, and his social media 1078 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 2: gonna tell it all. Yeah, you see what I'm saying. 1079 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 1: So I think King Proctor obviously. Wait, hopefully he's got 1080 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 1: good people to get him right. But again, like he 1081 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 1: if he does the thing the right way, if he 1082 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 1: handles it like he is right now, kind of in 1083 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: that twenty to thirty five range. 1084 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 2: Do you think he got the foot speed to play 1085 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 2: with the d. 1086 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 3: M dude, I think when you watch him at his best. 1087 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, he is a because when didn't get hold of 1088 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 2: you is out. 1089 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, he is special. 1090 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, it just depends on can you handle the weight, 1091 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 1: can we stay in shape? 1092 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 3: Who? 1093 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 2: He looked better than who? If you had to grade 1094 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 2: him compared to a guy came out and last draft 1095 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 2: that played, is he Joe? 1096 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 1: So no, he's not that player because Joe was like 1097 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 1: a generational guy. To me, he's like he's different than 1098 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 1: everybody because last year they were all hyper athletic movers. 1099 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 2: Yah. 1100 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 3: He reminded me more of reminds me a little bit 1101 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 3: of like a Marius Mims, Like he's just moving moving, 1102 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 3: but you're just a huge athlete. Yeah, and you're gonna 1103 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 3: and like, I think he's got some ability, like I 1104 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,839 Speaker 3: really do it. So if he if he does this well, 1105 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 3: I think could be a tough ten. 1106 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 4: So so more like what's his name was? Zeus from 1107 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 4: Ohio State the big dude two years ago that went. 1108 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 3: To Dawn Jones. 1109 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's got way more athletic than him, 1110 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 1: but so very different than Monroe Frielling who is six seven, 1111 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 1: three fifteen. He's only played like fifteen college games, like 1112 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: very low profile. But the thing is is he is 1113 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: borderline special. He's going to measure like long. The thing 1114 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 1: that I got for Tenna is if you're going to 1115 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,879 Speaker 1: be a first round tackle, you better be a first 1116 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 1: round athlete. 1117 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 2: How does those games compare with a with a with 1118 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,240 Speaker 2: a tackle or a lineman, Like, how's it different? Because 1119 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 2: when we talked about guys playing less games as a quarterback, 1120 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 2: they bothered everything playing that guy and then you saw 1121 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 2: it in the NFL. What does that say for a 1122 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 2: guy who played tackle? I think it's I think everything. 1123 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 1: It's a great point, but you look at the guys 1124 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: from Georgia. This is just how they do it, because 1125 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 1: he was practiced. 1126 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,439 Speaker 4: Again, he's behind guys, and he practiced against these first rounds. 1127 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 1: Every day, and so Mims only had like, I think, 1128 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 1: sixteen starts. Roderick Jones had ten. So he's kind of 1129 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,240 Speaker 1: in this Georgia tackle. 1130 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 2: Basically he's basically fresh. Then he's coming in and he 1131 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 2: don't have a lot of wearing tail. 1132 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: But the thing about those other guys, they tested like 1133 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 1: absolute freaks, so they became top fifteen picks. You better tests, 1134 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 1: you better test, man, You better run fast, you better 1135 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: jump high, you better look when we're on the field 1136 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: moving around. 1137 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you better look man, looking look the part. 1138 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So that's why I think 1139 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: the combines import for him. All right, now, we got 1140 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 1: the guards, we got Jayden Farmer from Kentucky, and we 1141 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,760 Speaker 1: got I'm in. I'm I can't even say. Read Adams 1142 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 1: is what I'm gonna call. 1143 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 2: I won't to know how long he was gonna try. 1144 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try that long. So Read Adams, big 1145 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 1: old hoss man. He's three hundred and thirty pounds, he's 1146 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 1: six y five, got long arms did well at the 1147 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 1: Shrine Bowl. 1148 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 3: I am worried a little bit about the foot speed, 1149 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,879 Speaker 3: so I want to see him like in the drill work, 1150 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 3: like do you look like an athlete? You know what 1151 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 1152 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: And I think like that kind of goes back to 1153 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 1: the uh, well I'm in roe feeling thing. And then 1154 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: Jalen Farmer was maybe one of the kind of the 1155 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 1: standout guys of the Senior Bowl. But like, where do 1156 00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 1: you fit in the pantheon of guards? And I think 1157 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,280 Speaker 1: if you come out with a good athletic profile, test right. 1158 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 4: Because you feel like it's nothing one thing they're standing 1159 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:05,800 Speaker 4: that when right. 1160 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 3: Now, that's a that's a great description. 1161 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 2: Like he's just without a test where he's he's slighted. 1162 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 3: I think he's probably like in the fourth round, maybe 1163 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 3: the fourth fifth round kind of guy I could work 1164 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 3: itself up. But I think if you test well, yeah. 1165 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,480 Speaker 1: And again with the production you had at the Senior 1166 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,240 Speaker 1: Bowl against some of the best guys in the country, yeah, 1167 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 1: like in your top athlete, like move you up the board. Now, 1168 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:24,839 Speaker 1: this is the next one that I think is really 1169 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 1: interesting with just tied in relevant for the Washington Commanders. 1170 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, Okay, Eli Stowers from Vanderbilt X Y received right. 1171 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 3: He's an ex quarterback you have been, say quarterback, but 1172 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 3: a track guy. So I ar'd a rumor that he's 1173 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 3: gonna run us four to four? 1174 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,320 Speaker 2: What does he weigh? Is my quist? 1175 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 1: I think he's weighing in because I work with him 1176 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 1: a little bit thirty. I think he's like two thirty 1177 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 1: two forty right now? Two thirty seven two is. 1178 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 2: Well because he looks skinny on film. 1179 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 3: But bro Bro has gas. Yeah, and so if you've 1180 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 3: got gas, yeah, you better gas. You know what I'm saying. 1181 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? Can he run? In the media roust? So he run? 1182 00:50:58,520 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 2: You know? 1183 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's he looks he looks like I think 1184 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,759 Speaker 1: I think as a receiver in the tight end room, 1185 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 1: he's the best guy in the class. 1186 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:06,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1187 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 3: So if he has a big day and like the 1188 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 3: guy I. 1189 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 2: Mean say, now you know, m a big Yeah. 1190 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 3: But if doesn't test the way people think gonna tip. 1191 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 1: So I think I'm like, if Eli comes out, yeah 1192 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 1: and he jumps forty two inches and runs a four 1193 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 1: to four. 1194 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 2: He looks like it has an eleven foot broad jump? Yeah? 1195 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:29,959 Speaker 2: Did he goes Scott Rocker? You ain't the only one 1196 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 2: looking at Eli. 1197 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 4: I'm saying, you ain't the only one looking at Eli, 1198 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 4: and I'm gonna be hona honest. 1199 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 2: Oscar was d Lapp had to pronounce his last. 1200 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,800 Speaker 3: Name, Oscar delp from Georgia. 1201 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 2: He looks on the fielm like God's. 1202 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,839 Speaker 3: Gift to a tidy preach my brother. 1203 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 2: List to me, like when I first seen him, because 1204 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:53,880 Speaker 2: there's two of them. 1205 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,319 Speaker 3: Was there, Yeah, he's number four, Number seven is the 1206 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:56,800 Speaker 3: other guy. 1207 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 4: I'm watching these guys, and I was like, you know what, 1208 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 4: this is one of them things where your bar got 1209 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 4: too much liquor. Don't nobody know what the drink that's 1210 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,239 Speaker 4: a good bar got too much. Like because I get 1211 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 4: the man in the ball. 1212 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, this dude can block, he can 1213 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 3: he can run, No, and he gets down the field. 1214 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 1: So to me, I'm like, why didn't they throw you 1215 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,879 Speaker 1: the ball? So when we get to drill work, can 1216 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 1: you catch? 1217 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 3: Is my thing? 1218 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 4: I just think when sometimes schools just got too much. 1219 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:26,359 Speaker 3: Too much of a good thing. 1220 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 4: Maybe, And I felt like this dude never got the 1221 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 4: shot because I'm like, throw every time y'all throwing the ball. 1222 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 2: He ball out and he looks. 1223 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you've seen it, because, like I'm like, 1224 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 1: at seventy one, if you need a tight end, this seems. 1225 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 4: Like the guy and he complete. Yeah, I don't think 1226 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,960 Speaker 4: he's missing. I don't think it's game flying. 1227 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,440 Speaker 1: I'm talking in line. You know how you do that. 1228 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,360 Speaker 1: He's got the hips, the footwork, he can run. 1229 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 2: Am I over. He looks like Zach r. He fits 1230 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 2: what we do. Dude. 1231 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,799 Speaker 1: He looks a little bit like he reminds me of 1232 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 1: Sam la Porto, a little bit like that's OK, I 1233 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 1: get you. Yes, Zach's little slighter. Yeah, he's like put together. 1234 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 1: So I don't understand why people are talking about him 1235 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,319 Speaker 1: going in the hundreds. I think if he comes out 1236 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:07,760 Speaker 1: and catches football looks part. 1237 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,840 Speaker 4: You know how you got a couple of players, you 1238 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 4: be like, yeah, get on off this bus first. Yeah, 1239 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 4: he wanted to get off the bus first. Dude, to 1240 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 4: get out with bus. 1241 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:17,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of them things. But then you gotta 1242 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 2: understand too, from how I look at things, I'm not 1243 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 2: saying that the scouts look at things. I guess it's 1244 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 2: safe to say that you will pick another tight end 1245 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,239 Speaker 2: in the draft if you're trying to complete your room. 1246 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 2: You don't mind. I was so, I was on a 1247 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 2: on a ledge of saying, I do I want a 1248 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 2: guy that's been out there in the league, you like likely, 1249 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:45,800 Speaker 2: I love like, don't want a little season guy to 1250 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 2: come here, because you know exactly what season, you know 1251 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 2: what I mean? We had two young guys, Bas earned 1252 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 2: his key. You got a guy you bringing up? Do 1253 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 2: I want to break another guy in here? 1254 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:54,319 Speaker 3: Oh? 1255 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 2: I see what you I don't want babies. I might 1256 00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 2: want a veteran to come in here and say, at 1257 00:53:58,719 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 2: least we can fit him in here. 1258 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 1: And so when we talk about this for the for Washington, 1259 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 1: like I think, I think you gotta do something. Free 1260 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 1: agency at the Titan Spot, no doubt. But if you 1261 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,799 Speaker 1: want an accent, you know, like a little like a 1262 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 1: little whatever. 1263 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I want I want to I want to buy 1264 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,360 Speaker 4: a property that people don't don't see. 1265 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,440 Speaker 2: A lot of value it. It's a lot of value 1266 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:17,239 Speaker 2: in it. 1267 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:18,840 Speaker 1: But it's only going to be a property that I 1268 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 1: value if he gets in that gauntlet drill, which as 1269 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 1: a football you know, like. 1270 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,920 Speaker 2: Just so you want him just show me soft hands. 1271 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:25,719 Speaker 2: Yeah we got to change. 1272 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:26,920 Speaker 3: We got a chance, all right. 1273 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,880 Speaker 1: Now let's get in the tennis realm here, which is 1274 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 1: the receivers. Okay, so I got four receivers and they're 1275 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,840 Speaker 1: all going to be talked about for different reasons. Okay, 1276 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,880 Speaker 1: Denzel Boston from UB six four or two hundred and 1277 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 1: five pound, so I guess it's not guess that's not 1278 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 1: his dad, that's not that's what I read. 1279 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 3: I don't. I read somewhere that it wasn't his dad, but. 1280 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,920 Speaker 2: I read somewhere that it was. That's what I'm saying. 1281 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,360 Speaker 3: So I've heard both, and. 1282 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 2: I'm just saying. And you remember David Boston, daddy was 1283 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 2: a reff. 1284 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, I just do able to reff his 1285 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 4: son gay and his son out here holding me to death. 1286 00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, so we don't know about that. We'll get 1287 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 1: back to you on because I've read both. I've read, Okay, 1288 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 1: Malachai Lemon from USC Tanna, Yeah, was a dollar but 1289 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 1: he's five to eleven one. And then you got Malachi 1290 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 1: Fields from Notre Dame. Yeah, he's six four to two, 1291 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,439 Speaker 1: big old hot. And then Jordan Tyson from Arizona State. 1292 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:19,839 Speaker 2: I think he's the most complete one. 1293 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:20,319 Speaker 3: Dude. 1294 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 2: He is. 1295 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 3: He is Tanna fred. He's my favorite receiver in this class. 1296 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:25,800 Speaker 2: He's the most complete receiving. 1297 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 1: The reason he's on this list is because dude has 1298 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 1: been banged healthy a cl collar bone, hamstring, and the drops. 1299 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, a healthy version of him is probably 1300 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 2: the top top of this list. Do he gonna will 1301 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,520 Speaker 2: he have a clean bill of health his career? 1302 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,840 Speaker 1: So that's my thing is you you were talking about 1303 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,880 Speaker 1: like how we're gonna get the medical and how important 1304 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 1: that is, Like he doesn't he doesn't need to run, 1305 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 1: he doesn't need to do anything. He needs to get 1306 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 1: a clean bill of health. And that's what this process 1307 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 1: is gonna do. Malachi Fields, You're big, you got great 1308 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 1: contested catchability. You got to run, man, you got to run, 1309 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,800 Speaker 1: and it doesn't need to be crazy fast. 1310 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,320 Speaker 2: Four five and getting paid four or five. 1311 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,399 Speaker 1: Will get you paid, four five, nine will get you paid. 1312 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 1: As long as it says a four and a five, 1313 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 1: you can get about that third digit. And that's what 1314 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:14,439 Speaker 1: it is with him. And I think he might mess 1315 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 1: around and be like the bottom of the first round. 1316 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 4: If he runs well, he's put like this, Malekai Fields 1317 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 4: is going to a playoff team. Yeah, some players have 1318 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,479 Speaker 4: it that like, yeah, your talent over here, we got 1319 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,440 Speaker 4: a dreft picked away, like we're going to we're going 1320 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:28,960 Speaker 4: to investing. 1321 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,440 Speaker 3: And then for me, this is the most interesting one. Uh. 1322 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,359 Speaker 1: Malachai Lemon is so interesting, Tanna because the film is great. 1323 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,759 Speaker 1: He's a pure slot guy. Yeah okay, And I just 1324 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,479 Speaker 1: don't know how big he is. To me on film 1325 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,400 Speaker 1: he looks candy black and red against small and so like, 1326 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,359 Speaker 1: if you're really small, that's an alarming thing because then 1327 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 1: you're he's five in. But if let's say he's what 1328 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 1: if he's five to ten or five to nine, you know, like, 1329 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 1: what are we talking about there? Like can you play 1330 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,399 Speaker 1: at there? So are you would would you be worthy 1331 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:01,759 Speaker 1: of a top ten pick, which is what they're talking 1332 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,560 Speaker 1: about now. And so to me, if you're a slot 1333 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:07,439 Speaker 1: only body type slot only guy, I just can't value 1334 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:07,960 Speaker 1: it looks like. 1335 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,600 Speaker 4: He showed he can play both though he showed he 1336 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 4: can play. He looks like Jack Qui is in his 1337 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 4: in his fit. I played with Jock Quid. When I 1338 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,680 Speaker 4: seen this kid, he looked like Jack. 1339 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 3: Quiz, like he has that field he can play. 1340 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 2: And then knock on jo Quiz was he will not block? 1341 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,560 Speaker 3: I think he dude, this guy's got more, he's got some. 1342 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 2: Dog like he used to play running back and something. 1343 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got some. 1344 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,200 Speaker 1: Dogging physical But I just worry that, like I don't know, man, 1345 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 1: I've seen like pure slot guys. Yeah, and unless you're 1346 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 1: an offense that can has three receivers on the field 1347 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 1: all the time, I just worry about, like the thing 1348 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 1: you were talking about, role utilization, identity with the return guy. 1349 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:44,160 Speaker 3: Yes exactly, I say. 1350 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 2: I say, if it's a team out there that's already 1351 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 2: has a guy or too, then then yeah, I take 1352 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 2: that chance for him early in the rounds because now 1353 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 2: he completes my room. You see him. If I'm a 1354 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 2: guy that's looking for a number one receiver, I can't 1355 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 2: do it. But if I go out there slot guy, 1356 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,920 Speaker 2: that be my guy, a numb more receiver, because that's 1357 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:02,800 Speaker 2: that don't make sense to me. 1358 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, but if he comes in and he's I don't know, 1359 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 1: five eleven, he's you know, he's not caught up on high. 1360 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 1: But but for me, five eleven is fine. But I'm 1361 00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 1: worried that if he's like five to nine and he's. 1362 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,920 Speaker 2: Really let me tell you something about short receiver. 1363 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 3: But I'm saying so I agree with you. 1364 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:18,920 Speaker 2: It's hard for the length to touch. 1365 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 1: I agree with you, but I just feel like, like 1366 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 1: Wandel Robinson, Yeah, took him a long time to get 1367 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 1: comfortable playing the perimeter up there. He's the second round pick, 1368 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,840 Speaker 1: very different kind of prospect. I just think it's hard 1369 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 1: for it's hard to get those guys integrated in offense. 1370 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 3: It can be hard. 1371 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it makes me worried about him being less 1372 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 1: universal than I think he's being tiled right now. 1373 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think you know, one of the things 1374 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 2: that came out about me and my draft, and we 1375 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,160 Speaker 2: talked about this about David Terrell being the first receiver. 1376 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 2: It was stated before I even worked out if I 1377 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 2: was five teen and a half five eleven, but they 1378 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 2: just say at five ten, five to a half, I 1379 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 2: would have been the first receiver taking So if you're 1380 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:57,439 Speaker 2: going to sit there and say this is because I'm 1381 00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 2: five to nine, take him, And then I think too 1382 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 2: when you look at it, because this was like, this 1383 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 2: was huge for I think for the for the guys 1384 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,680 Speaker 2: behind me, behind us that first year, I get hurt. 1385 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 2: Steve Smith gets what third round and go to a 1386 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,600 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl as a kick returner, But then showed, so 1387 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:20,040 Speaker 2: Mu's potential as a receiver. We both the same size. 1388 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,320 Speaker 2: And then now my second and third year, I jump 1389 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 2: off the charts at both. I was All Pro, first 1390 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 2: team All Pro as a pup returner year, two Pro 1391 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,000 Speaker 2: Bowls in the next year, catch for a thousand yards 1392 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,479 Speaker 2: as a receiver. Now you don't hear nothing about small 1393 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 2: receivers no more. We opened the door wide open. So 1394 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,800 Speaker 2: when you talk about this kid here, he's what twenty 1395 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,280 Speaker 2: plus years away from when we came in the draft, 1396 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:43,800 Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter no more. 1397 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 1: But but I will say, Steve Smith, freak athlete. You're 1398 00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,160 Speaker 1: a freak Athleteeah, I don't know. I don't know if 1399 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:50,800 Speaker 1: he's gonna run that. I'm just curious. 1400 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 2: So if he's running four three in size, then it's 1401 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 2: no question. So you say he ain't not Isaiah Worthy 1402 00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,600 Speaker 2: right now? You don't think he gonna run. 1403 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:00,959 Speaker 3: That's what I think to why I do believe. 1404 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:02,800 Speaker 2: I do believe. You have to be fast, you have 1405 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 2: to be you have to be different, you have to 1406 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:05,479 Speaker 2: have some define in trade. 1407 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1408 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I'm just like, I'm a little worried 1409 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna be small and people think he's gonna be 1410 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 1: as fast and he's still a good player. Just right now, 1411 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,480 Speaker 1: people are saying he might be the best receiver in 1412 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:13,880 Speaker 1: the class. 1413 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 1414 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 1: If he doesn't do something like run fast, I think 1415 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 1: there's some conversation there, all right. The last one will 1416 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,360 Speaker 1: be Denzel Boston for me, And again I think he's. 1417 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:27,800 Speaker 2: Six four dk metcal looking you know what, and run 1418 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:31,040 Speaker 2: and run back punts too occasion. So to me, that's 1419 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,800 Speaker 2: a town in the Monks. I'm glad you brought brought 1420 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,640 Speaker 2: the punt, you know what I'm saying. Like now he's 1421 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 2: about I see guys that big running punt. Listen. I mean, well, 1422 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,360 Speaker 2: we did see the dude from play at Pittsburgh. The 1423 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,360 Speaker 2: last year he played played for the Falcons with his 1424 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 2: name is he changed from receiver to running back. Yeah, 1425 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 2: you could probably compare him to him. 1426 01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I had a bad I think Denzel Boston 1427 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,000 Speaker 1: is going to be faster than people think, because right 1428 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 1: now he's the bottom of the first round. Yeah, bottom 1429 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 1: the first round, top of the second. Like good player, 1430 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 1: But when I watch him return punts and I watched 1431 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,160 Speaker 1: him catch go balls, and I think he's got some juice. 1432 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,120 Speaker 2: No, I think he got some dude in him. 1433 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,200 Speaker 4: Like so like this Terrea Lowins, what made him good 1434 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,720 Speaker 4: as a big receiver is not that he just can 1435 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 4: jump ball you. He ran like a little he's yack 1436 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 4: his yeck like give me a give me a slant, man, 1437 01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take this slant eighty Like that's what this kid. 1438 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,000 Speaker 4: He got big playability in a big body. 1439 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:26,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1440 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 4: Where you just see a big body out jump people. 1441 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,720 Speaker 4: You see a big body basketball people. He's a big 1442 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,200 Speaker 4: body that plays like I'm five tenth six feet tall 1443 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 4: and I get it done. 1444 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:40,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm excited. And really, all receivers got to 1445 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,280 Speaker 1: run fast. Yeah, like don't run, don't mess around. 1446 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah slow, I ain't gonna get you nowhere. 1447 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 1: But I think those guys are guys just wanted to 1448 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,920 Speaker 1: highlight now running back real quick. We got uh Demond 1449 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 1: Claiborne from Wake Forest, We got C. J. Donaldson from 1450 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 1: Ohio State, and we got Eli hiden Reich from Navy. 1451 01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 2: Hide and right, let's start with Claiborne. 1452 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 3: Clayboard is build is the fastest running back in the class. 1453 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:07,080 Speaker 2: So be fast. So he's better. He's ship So he 1454 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,720 Speaker 2: said he's fast. He's the fast fastest. Yea, I'm thinking 1455 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 2: of the Begs and I'm from jeremih Love. Jerreman should 1456 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 2: be the best running. 1457 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 1: So he's got a track background. He's supposed to be 1458 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,960 Speaker 1: this great third down back. It's supposed to play making weapon. 1459 01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,000 Speaker 1: So everyone's talking about him. Sometimes i'm filming, I'm like, 1460 01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:22,920 Speaker 1: are you that fast? 1461 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:23,400 Speaker 3: Are you not? 1462 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 2: So you're saying sometime he doesn't play. 1463 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,280 Speaker 3: Correct with peak speed? Yes, but I got to see 1464 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,640 Speaker 3: him run, all right, because if we're gonna talk about 1465 01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:32,920 Speaker 3: you that way, yeah, let's watch it. 1466 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:33,960 Speaker 2: Let me see you glad. 1467 01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 3: Yes. 1468 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 2: C J. 1469 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 3: Donaldson, Yeah, from Ile State. 1470 01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 1: He's I think he's six three, he's two thirty five, 1471 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,880 Speaker 1: big big back. I watched him at the Shrine Bowl. 1472 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:47,280 Speaker 1: Excellent in pass protection, excellent catching the football. I think 1473 01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,640 Speaker 1: about for the Washington Commanders. You the third down back 1474 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:50,880 Speaker 1: good in past pro. 1475 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,080 Speaker 2: That's so funny. He just said yet third down bag. 1476 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,840 Speaker 2: But he seeks to thirty eight. He says everything. Listen, 1477 01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:00,400 Speaker 2: that says you getting the Stephen Davis base. That's what 1478 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:00,920 Speaker 2: you get. 1479 01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 4: I see cold weather all of his future. He's a 1480 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 4: cold weather team waiting to have. 1481 01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,880 Speaker 3: But when I watched the film, yeah, I'm like his 1482 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:12,520 Speaker 3: feet look a little haiky, little heavy, right, he's got 1483 01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,600 Speaker 3: a good vision. Yeah, but I got you gotta have 1484 01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 3: like a good minimum threshold for you for me, all right. 1485 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,600 Speaker 1: And then Eli hyd and Rank Tanner, Dude, I love 1486 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,440 Speaker 1: his tape. He plays receiver, he plays running back. If 1487 01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,480 Speaker 1: you can do that, there's value for us. 1488 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:26,800 Speaker 2: He's a Deebo Simmons. 1489 01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:27,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of what he looks. 1490 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,000 Speaker 2: De Yeah, I would call it that. 1491 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 4: Eric Metcalf, Eric every Medcalf, that's debo. And first of all, 1492 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 4: if you want to see the perfect run scrid and 1493 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:44,160 Speaker 4: glad with Eric me, he tried to get my two 1494 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:44,960 Speaker 4: one out of my back. 1495 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 2: I'm like, no, no, you're gonna walks up out. 1496 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:53,360 Speaker 4: Eric Medcalf was the him, and what's the name from 1497 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:57,439 Speaker 4: New York? They had another third, David meg Oh, Yes, 1498 01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,560 Speaker 4: this is the perfect running back. 1499 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,120 Speaker 2: Why receive a hybrid? 1500 01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 4: They not only do they play slot, not only do 1501 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,200 Speaker 4: they come in on third that they both return punt. 1502 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,440 Speaker 2: So that's what type of So. 1503 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is about him, but he 1504 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,560 Speaker 1: reminds me a little bit of like a very poor 1505 01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,480 Speaker 1: man's like Christian McCaffrey, like. 1506 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:15,440 Speaker 2: Move I'm goin to say, what's he like? Is he 1507 01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:22,880 Speaker 2: like your guy from from USC Bush Bush? Reggie? No, No, 1508 01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,680 Speaker 2: in the league Bush went away from being this predominantly 1509 01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,640 Speaker 2: like every and whatever you need, that was so fast. 1510 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 1: So my thing with him is I want to see 1511 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,400 Speaker 1: him do the running back drills. Yeah right, and I 1512 01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,960 Speaker 1: want to see him catch passes. But for that kind 1513 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,800 Speaker 1: of role, you got to be twitched up. Yeah, So 1514 01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:39,960 Speaker 1: how's your how's your five? 1515 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 2: Ten? 1516 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 3: Five? Yeah, how's your three cone? How's your forty? 1517 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 2: Can you return punt? Yeah? 1518 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:45,720 Speaker 1: Like that's right, because again he's a guy, a guy 1519 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,120 Speaker 1: that might go undrafted, but if he has a good combine, yeah, 1520 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:49,280 Speaker 1: might seeking out sneak. 1521 01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. And plus he had a military school. You got 1522 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:52,680 Speaker 2: to get released. 1523 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 1: And yeah yeah absolutely absolutely all right, So let's get 1524 01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,959 Speaker 1: to So that's our offensive preview, just some names to highlight, 1525 01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 1: and I think I want to point out is like 1526 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:03,120 Speaker 1: everyone got different things. Some guys the drills, some guys 1527 01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,040 Speaker 1: are the wins, some guys are the meetings. So that 1528 01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:07,920 Speaker 1: we did offense, we're gonna the defense next. After we 1529 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:12,560 Speaker 1: hit this break three, who's got the I got the 1530 01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:13,120 Speaker 1: army reader? 1531 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 4: Now, yeah, you've been kid, butchering it. 1532 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,720 Speaker 2: The lottery all right, hut up Commanders. 1533 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:26,280 Speaker 4: Fans, The Commander's Golden Pass Raffle, operated by the Virginia Lottery, 1534 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,240 Speaker 4: gives you the chance to win the ultimate fan experience. 1535 01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:33,920 Speaker 4: That means tickets, VIP treatment, special appearances by the Washington Ledges, 1536 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,560 Speaker 4: old guys like us, and much more. 1537 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,160 Speaker 2: Limited tickets available. 1538 01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:42,600 Speaker 4: So visit VA Lottery dot com slash Commanders to enter 1539 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:48,040 Speaker 4: the rafph today desk VA Lottery dot com slash Commanders. 1540 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,560 Speaker 2: And break and great. 1541 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 1: All right, US Army, they say, your work to find 1542 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:56,480 Speaker 1: who you are Monday through Friday, nine to five. Your 1543 01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,400 Speaker 1: clocking in, what happens on the weekend, what happens to 1544 01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:03,680 Speaker 1: your time. You could say it's easy, you could excuse me, 1545 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,480 Speaker 1: you can take it easy, or you could use that 1546 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 1: time to get better. L In the US Army we 1547 01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,320 Speaker 1: think differently. Your time should be used to improve the 1548 01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,680 Speaker 1: skills you do have to learn something you don't, to 1549 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,440 Speaker 1: push yourself in new ways, because it's those days that 1550 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,360 Speaker 1: truly define who you are. That's how you make progress, 1551 01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:20,320 Speaker 1: That's how you make an impact on the world around you. 1552 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,280 Speaker 1: It's your time, how you spend it up to you. 1553 01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,800 Speaker 1: It's your time the US Army Reserve. 1554 01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,560 Speaker 4: I'm wonder which one A schools is the best academic 1555 01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:28,280 Speaker 4: at the three? 1556 01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,120 Speaker 3: For sure? You actually Miami supposed to pretty well. 1557 01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,640 Speaker 2: I know we graduate most about football players than everybody else. 1558 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,280 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not, I'm just I'm talking about that 1559 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:39,800 Speaker 4: went straight to the football. 1560 01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:41,400 Speaker 2: It's straight to the football. 1561 01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:41,760 Speaker 3: You know. 1562 01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,760 Speaker 2: We we got more graduate football players than all the 1563 01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,000 Speaker 2: school Look, oh, listen, I'm saying I would you know 1564 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 2: Missippi stated is the academic schools? 1565 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an agriculture. 1566 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,640 Speaker 2: Agriculture, yeah, this academic still. 1567 01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 3: So now we got our defensive. 1568 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:13,320 Speaker 6: Sorry springs at Ohio State. Lord so coming into the 1569 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:18,040 Speaker 6: NFL Draft. He had zero interceptions in the ninety six 1570 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:22,640 Speaker 6: season at Ohio State, but his total career at Ohio 1571 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:23,200 Speaker 6: State was. 1572 01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:29,360 Speaker 3: Six zero is crazy though, yeah, to go from. 1573 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,400 Speaker 2: But I will say this, I remember being a kid 1574 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,320 Speaker 2: watching Ohigh State. I was a high State fan. Joey Galloway. 1575 01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,160 Speaker 2: He wasn't playing out there. They weren't throwing it like 1576 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,040 Speaker 2: they the games that come on they talk about the 1577 01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,760 Speaker 2: game breakers on offense. Galloway, those boys, I think, and I. 1578 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:50,200 Speaker 4: Think Galloway, Terry Glen, Orlando Pace, This that team Andy 1579 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,200 Speaker 4: Castlemaya middle linebacker. 1580 01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:58,400 Speaker 2: Seriously, dudes, dude's and then and Sean was locked down 1581 01:07:58,440 --> 01:07:58,720 Speaker 2: out there. 1582 01:07:58,840 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 3: Really looks good. 1583 01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:00,360 Speaker 2: He one is. 1584 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:08,880 Speaker 4: He looked good at coming out look he was blue 1585 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,640 Speaker 4: though he was blue. He was blue way back then. 1586 01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,040 Speaker 3: He's a few years removed from the rolled up jersey. 1587 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,120 Speaker 2: But sure you know he was that boy, No, he was. 1588 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,320 Speaker 2: I just didn't know he had no picks that you're damn. 1589 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,559 Speaker 2: But that's just one of the things that that tells 1590 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,920 Speaker 2: you they wasn't trying hi because he made plays like 1591 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:25,960 Speaker 2: he was big and tackling him tell you that much. 1592 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,920 Speaker 2: I always see him making tackles like those, those bone 1593 01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 2: crushing like Sean was in the big games, and that 1594 01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,160 Speaker 2: back of somebody cost something out there. He putting you 1595 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,120 Speaker 2: on your back. I love it when Desmond took him 1596 01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:47,800 Speaker 2: up top though, is may you all about somebody? And 1597 01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:49,880 Speaker 2: that said, you know what bringing up des Man Howard 1598 01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,639 Speaker 2: like as a receiver when I was young, that's the hybrid. 1599 01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,479 Speaker 2: I would have thought like he was more of a 1600 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,920 Speaker 2: receiver until I like, really, because you know you just 1601 01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,400 Speaker 2: said back punts. Yeah, then you saw him, You're like, oh, 1602 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,439 Speaker 2: they don't know what to do with it. What he 1603 01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:04,200 Speaker 2: really wasn't a pre receiver. That's what happened in the 1604 01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,120 Speaker 2: league when he got he got here. They want him 1605 01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,879 Speaker 2: to be a pre receiver in the route running when there, 1606 01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,160 Speaker 2: but he was just a dynamics return. Yeah, he gonna 1607 01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,679 Speaker 2: kick and he broke the Super Bowl over Ye broke 1608 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,200 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl with the returns. It's like that's when 1609 01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:19,880 Speaker 2: we're talking about some of these guys that have that 1610 01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,519 Speaker 2: kind of talent. You look at des Mahin, you look 1611 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,360 Speaker 2: at rocket Ishmael, look at Peter Ward. Listen when you 1612 01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:29,559 Speaker 2: watched Peter Wark college field and my eyes, but he 1613 01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,400 Speaker 2: was he was more a part of his receiver than 1614 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,200 Speaker 2: most of his lateral speed. 1615 01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,920 Speaker 4: What he could do going sideways, only him, Reggie Bush 1616 01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:38,800 Speaker 4: and a couple of more dudes can do it with 1617 01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:43,960 Speaker 4: going sideway, but going vertically. He was never the fastest. 1618 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,519 Speaker 2: Dude, but I think he was. He was coming into 1619 01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:48,880 Speaker 2: his own when Chad got there and then he heard 1620 01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:50,960 Speaker 2: his he heard his minist so he was that he 1621 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,080 Speaker 2: didn't if he didn't rush to get back that year 1622 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,120 Speaker 2: when they were going to the playoffs. Yeah, I think 1623 01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:59,160 Speaker 2: he's a prime example of a dude like Malcolm Kelly, 1624 01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:04,760 Speaker 2: but had that a different kind of knee and he 1625 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,960 Speaker 2: had degenerate. No, he had the dog on surgery. That 1626 01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:12,800 Speaker 2: better anybody micro micro Michael what you call Pete pe. 1627 01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:17,120 Speaker 2: Dubb had one of his best seasons, eight hundred plus yards. 1628 01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,080 Speaker 2: That was his first big season. Chad was balling. He 1629 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:24,639 Speaker 2: was balling, He's running back punts as well, and he 1630 01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,840 Speaker 2: he opted out to go ahead get that Cortler shot 1631 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:28,800 Speaker 2: and shaved out like they asked me to do my 1632 01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 2: rookie season. I said no, came back in four games 1633 01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,960 Speaker 2: and never got back. That knee wasn't right. And so 1634 01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:39,600 Speaker 2: if he probably were, you know, saving Cortins like I 1635 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,800 Speaker 2: did my rookie year the South the rest of that year, 1636 01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 2: he had a long career. 1637 01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is funny how like serendipity the NFL is 1638 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,320 Speaker 1: when it comes to injuries and stuff like that. And 1639 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,240 Speaker 1: again that's another thing that makes this so hard. It's 1640 01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,599 Speaker 1: like every year when we do our drive to the draft, 1641 01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:56,360 Speaker 1: like somebody that I'm like locked in on just love 1642 01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:57,240 Speaker 1: gets hurt. 1643 01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,040 Speaker 2: And never become that player that you thought like. So 1644 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:01,880 Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. 1645 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:08,840 Speaker 4: It's luck, circumstance and how long can you hold on 1646 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:09,360 Speaker 4: in this leader. 1647 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,160 Speaker 2: That's it. It's true, you know what too many and 1648 01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,160 Speaker 2: I don't want to you know, doell too much on this, 1649 01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:14,840 Speaker 2: but the kid. 1650 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,400 Speaker 3: Who lost his life. 1651 01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:22,000 Speaker 2: And more, it's funny that it's not funny. But I'm saying, 1652 01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:25,120 Speaker 2: like far as we don't spend enough time on the 1653 01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:30,479 Speaker 2: mental things that this game does. And the reason why 1654 01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,120 Speaker 2: brain is up because I felt like I was there 1655 01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,439 Speaker 2: as a jet early in my career, like it was 1656 01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:40,120 Speaker 2: devastating to me to be hurt. I was tore up. 1657 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:45,080 Speaker 2: And but what's so crazy about it? My will to fail, 1658 01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,200 Speaker 2: my will not to fail overshadowed all that, Like I 1659 01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,519 Speaker 2: was determined, like I didn't I think all myself here, 1660 01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,280 Speaker 2: I'm not feeling allowed. And because you know, you go 1661 01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,880 Speaker 2: through those lapses of I'm hurt and I get back 1662 01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,000 Speaker 2: from being hurt. I'm trying so hard to be the 1663 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:02,800 Speaker 2: guy I was. I'm dropping ball. I can't run the 1664 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,799 Speaker 2: way I was running because I'm not that that fast 1665 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,080 Speaker 2: no more. At this morning, you know, right now they 1666 01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,200 Speaker 2: want me to be ten of coming out four three 1667 01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,840 Speaker 2: for two, and I gotta get time to build this 1668 01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,960 Speaker 2: laid back up. And so I remember being in that 1669 01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:18,280 Speaker 2: space just like praying. Bro, I used to pray like 1670 01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 2: I would cut this. I would cut that, give me 1671 01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,000 Speaker 2: a sign that I know I can go out here. 1672 01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,280 Speaker 2: And then half of the time it's just you. It's 1673 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,800 Speaker 2: just you fighting those demons in your head and you 1674 01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:30,519 Speaker 2: taking them out there to practice with you, and you 1675 01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,240 Speaker 2: wonder why you can't get over it because I used 1676 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:34,880 Speaker 2: to play so many games with myself. So the reason 1677 01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,200 Speaker 2: why I'm bringing this up, man, you know, send my 1678 01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,439 Speaker 2: Condolas to his family and everything. But I just want 1679 01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 2: to mention this to to the folks that some of 1680 01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,000 Speaker 2: those players, man, bro, do whatever, go go to counseling. 1681 01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:49,599 Speaker 2: I didn't do it, but I used to count myself. 1682 01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,000 Speaker 4: I had a shrink from from the first week I 1683 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:52,799 Speaker 4: was in the league. 1684 01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:53,920 Speaker 1: When I was in San France, I had to go 1685 01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:57,479 Speaker 1: to shrink, yeah, psychiatrist because I was like I was depressed. Yeah, 1686 01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 1: I was not playing the best ball. My family was out. 1687 01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:01,800 Speaker 1: I kind of screwed something out and like. 1688 01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:06,800 Speaker 2: Thought, I did the hard way what I want. I 1689 01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,000 Speaker 2: don't advise that for nobody. Man, if you're dealing with 1690 01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,240 Speaker 2: something and we take it for granted, cause. 1691 01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,000 Speaker 10: We're like, oh, man, to what, No, it's not as 1692 01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:17,160 Speaker 10: a person that went to one and realized quickly like, oh, 1693 01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:20,280 Speaker 10: this is a lot to bear, especially playing corner, playing 1694 01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,320 Speaker 10: corner getting burnt on national TV in you think the 1695 01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:24,160 Speaker 10: world is ended. 1696 01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:26,559 Speaker 2: You think, all right, I'm about to lose my job. 1697 01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:27,960 Speaker 2: Because this is the one thing about a corner. 1698 01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,439 Speaker 4: You don't know which time you get burnt gonna be 1699 01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:34,400 Speaker 4: the one that takes this job away from your So yeah, 1700 01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,559 Speaker 4: most definitely get always reach out for him. I don't 1701 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,719 Speaker 4: care if it's to your cousin, your best friend, your ex, 1702 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:41,120 Speaker 4: whoever you feel. 1703 01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,920 Speaker 2: You can talk. Talk talk to them. Get that off you, man, 1704 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,600 Speaker 2: Because I dress when I heard it, I was just 1705 01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,000 Speaker 2: sitting there saying to myself so much came back to 1706 01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,559 Speaker 2: me from those years. And I remember, I kid you, 1707 01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,640 Speaker 2: not like I was like that in college from a 1708 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,800 Speaker 2: moment at one point, but I remember having those little 1709 01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,559 Speaker 2: talks to myself and telling myself, I'm finna cut all 1710 01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,400 Speaker 2: this to get back to or not even to get 1711 01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,439 Speaker 2: back to it, to be this person. And that's when 1712 01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,040 Speaker 2: something you gotta do. You have to cut things. You 1713 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:07,720 Speaker 2: have to cut people, You got to cut the way 1714 01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:09,679 Speaker 2: you live, and you have to cut things to order 1715 01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:11,280 Speaker 2: to be successful in anything. 1716 01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:16,000 Speaker 3: You do. Yeah, thanks for saring. That's nice. It's really 1717 01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:17,080 Speaker 3: all right. 1718 01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,760 Speaker 1: Let's do our defensive preview here, and so like, these 1719 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,280 Speaker 1: are guys that I think need have good combines for 1720 01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:23,560 Speaker 1: very different reasons. Let's start with the defensive back. So 1721 01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:27,120 Speaker 1: first one is Caleb Downs from Ohio State. So, and 1722 01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:28,880 Speaker 1: then the next one would be Chris Johnson from San 1723 01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:30,880 Speaker 1: Diego State, and the last one would be the the 1724 01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,080 Speaker 1: Angelo from Indiana. 1725 01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,240 Speaker 2: That's a football I don't want to talk about nobody but him. 1726 01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:37,280 Speaker 4: Let me, let me tell let's talk about this Caleb, 1727 01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:41,519 Speaker 4: because yeah, did you Yeah? I want to ask you 1728 01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:43,920 Speaker 4: just using your eyes, because that's how we know. We 1729 01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,080 Speaker 4: ain't seen to come by and come back if you 1730 01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:51,120 Speaker 4: had to come downs to somebody. Because I'm feeling Downs 1731 01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:53,519 Speaker 4: being built up with the fact that it ain't a 1732 01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,759 Speaker 4: lot of safeties in this draft over his level. 1733 01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:56,479 Speaker 2: But he looked good. 1734 01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,479 Speaker 4: Though he looks good, But who is he when I 1735 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,880 Speaker 4: look at because when I look at safeties and I 1736 01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,880 Speaker 4: say top five safety, and I hear. 1737 01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:05,320 Speaker 2: This every year. 1738 01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,559 Speaker 4: Even when cal Hampton was coming out, he was gonna 1739 01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,920 Speaker 4: be a top ten. He end up being number fourteen. Uh. 1740 01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,040 Speaker 4: One of my favorite Darwin James said top ten. He 1741 01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:19,000 Speaker 4: ended up being uh number fifteen. So every year we 1742 01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:23,240 Speaker 4: have this one safety that sticks out beyond everybody. Now, 1743 01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:27,600 Speaker 4: to me, Caleb Downs does everything good. I don't know 1744 01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:29,360 Speaker 4: what he does great, So I. 1745 01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:31,799 Speaker 2: Pay him to somebody in the league right now? Who 1746 01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:32,000 Speaker 2: is he? 1747 01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,280 Speaker 4: That's what I want him to do, because I personally don't. 1748 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:38,080 Speaker 2: You see, I ain't no, I ain't figured out yet. 1749 01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:39,240 Speaker 2: I ain't figured out who yet. 1750 01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:42,360 Speaker 1: So to me, to a t he's Brian branch Man, 1751 01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,200 Speaker 1: like that kind of body size, like that, he's better 1752 01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,320 Speaker 1: near the line of scrimmage better, I say, he bet 1753 01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:50,080 Speaker 1: in the runs like this should be Boning doesn't play 1754 01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,040 Speaker 1: a lot of post safety, but Brian branch and so, like, 1755 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:56,040 Speaker 1: I think we're having this conversation about Caleb Downs going 1756 01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,360 Speaker 1: in the top ten. Yeah, because of the success of 1757 01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,840 Speaker 1: nick Amin Warrior, because of the success of Witherspoon, because 1758 01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,599 Speaker 1: of these like these high end nickel players. Yeah, and 1759 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,200 Speaker 1: what they do for the defense, right, and so I 1760 01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:08,040 Speaker 1: think he's got that. 1761 01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:10,400 Speaker 3: Like so sometimes when you watch the safety're like, how's 1762 01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:13,160 Speaker 3: he tackled? His communication is great, He's smart. I love 1763 01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,680 Speaker 3: that he's physical, he's downhill. He started at Alabama as a 1764 01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:16,960 Speaker 3: freshman with Nick Nick saban. 1765 01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:18,320 Speaker 2: Ye say he wanted the best. 1766 01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:20,439 Speaker 1: He never coach if he wants to go top ten though, 1767 01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,720 Speaker 1: because you said it, Fred Derwin, James, Kyle Hamilton, those 1768 01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:27,719 Speaker 1: dudes are freaks right a nature, but they didn't run. Well, Yeah, 1769 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:31,120 Speaker 1: he's got to come out and run a sub four five. 1770 01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,479 Speaker 2: No, I think he got to go full four to 1771 01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:34,679 Speaker 2: go in the top five. 1772 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,200 Speaker 1: What if he goes You're saying, so what he's saying 1773 01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,240 Speaker 1: four to three, he's got to run I say four four. Okay, 1774 01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:40,439 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. He's got to run a four 1775 01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,519 Speaker 1: four sub four five. He's got to go below four five. 1776 01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,080 Speaker 1: And so that's why to me, he's on this list 1777 01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,559 Speaker 1: because I think he's a He is a ball player. 1778 01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,360 Speaker 4: He is a He born to play football. His brother 1779 01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:54,559 Speaker 4: plays for coach, his daddy played in the league. So 1780 01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,519 Speaker 4: he's generational football player. That's why he plays with so 1781 01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:59,960 Speaker 4: much poise. Like the one thing you ever You never 1782 01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,639 Speaker 4: see him panic. You never see him at a place. 1783 01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,639 Speaker 4: He knows the game of football. But when I seen 1784 01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:07,439 Speaker 4: a red. 1785 01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:12,439 Speaker 2: Play, I was like that that's different. He's when I 1786 01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,800 Speaker 2: seen Sean Taylor. Taylor, this is different. 1787 01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,080 Speaker 1: But he is a heck of a football and so 1788 01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:20,640 Speaker 1: I think that's something where if he's a if he 1789 01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,479 Speaker 1: is a heck of an athlete also then the conversation 1790 01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:24,719 Speaker 1: talks about him in the same. 1791 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:30,080 Speaker 2: Little Earl Thomas. I think that's fair, Thomas say, Earl, 1792 01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,240 Speaker 2: I winna say. He looks more like to me, like 1793 01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,519 Speaker 2: a Earl Thomas or a guy that I've seen in 1794 01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:37,479 Speaker 2: a defense or two before. You know what I mean, 1795 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,120 Speaker 2: you know, a certain defenses just look like he deserves 1796 01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,479 Speaker 2: to be there because the way they use him in college. 1797 01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,479 Speaker 2: I can't see him play like you said, post safety. 1798 01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:49,320 Speaker 2: I can't see him. I gotta see him being up 1799 01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:54,719 Speaker 2: in the box checking guys, Brian doing something of that nature, 1800 01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,320 Speaker 2: being a disruptor. It's Brian Dawkins to come. 1801 01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:04,719 Speaker 4: I said, Bob at more durable. 1802 01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:08,880 Speaker 1: But dude, Brian Branch to me, like they they look 1803 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:10,800 Speaker 1: really similar on the film, you know what I mean, 1804 01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:12,400 Speaker 1: They've got and you know, like there's those dudes that 1805 01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:16,840 Speaker 1: just understand like snap timing, positioning and how to like 1806 01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:17,479 Speaker 1: get the. 1807 01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,320 Speaker 2: Defeatable scream things that's comfortable. 1808 01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:20,120 Speaker 3: They're just like a. 1809 01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,360 Speaker 1: Good football player. Like that's the vibe I get but 1810 01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:24,439 Speaker 1: he got a run though. He's got a run, all right. 1811 01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,400 Speaker 1: So let's talk about Chris Johns real quick for Sandio State. 1812 01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:28,800 Speaker 1: Like he's the guy that everyone's talking about going in 1813 01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:29,880 Speaker 1: the first or second round. 1814 01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,439 Speaker 3: But when I watch him, I don't know. I'm glad 1815 01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:35,680 Speaker 3: he said that because I am kinda So if he 1816 01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:39,040 Speaker 3: wants to stay there, he got to prove he gotta run. 1817 01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:40,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he gotta look good. So I put him on 1818 01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:43,479 Speaker 1: here because down's got to run. I think Chris Johnson's 1819 01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:44,360 Speaker 1: got to look good on the field. 1820 01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:48,000 Speaker 2: Pounds run, Yeah, So the thing with pounds isn't like 1821 01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:49,880 Speaker 2: I was scared. 1822 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:55,200 Speaker 3: So the listed measurement, so he was five to nine 1823 01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:59,240 Speaker 3: listed five to nine one seventy five, and you know, 1824 01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:00,599 Speaker 3: like you were sat earlier. 1825 01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:03,519 Speaker 2: I know he look, we don't like to get on 1826 01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,400 Speaker 2: that scale right there. 1827 01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:08,559 Speaker 3: So I mean, is this dude five eight one six, Like, 1828 01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:09,680 Speaker 3: what does he come in at? 1829 01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:10,920 Speaker 2: You know what? 1830 01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:13,880 Speaker 4: I just think he got that. In fact he does. 1831 01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:18,800 Speaker 4: Somebody's ninety mouse. That's mighty mouse. I played with Antoine Winfield. 1832 01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:19,280 Speaker 2: Gonna rise. 1833 01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,599 Speaker 4: I played with Antoine Winfield and to one was probably 1834 01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:23,280 Speaker 4: five nins. 1835 01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,880 Speaker 2: You're gonna put right there with a beer barely good. 1836 01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:30,400 Speaker 2: Listen to me, built like he just left a frat house. 1837 01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:34,800 Speaker 4: But boy, when you scrapped their helm, it out. 1838 01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:38,160 Speaker 1: So what I'm saying, man, it's like, yeah, I'm cool Winfield. Yeah, 1839 01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:38,840 Speaker 1: but what you said? 1840 01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:39,360 Speaker 3: Five nine? 1841 01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:45,439 Speaker 2: What was he tweezy? Probably like one ninety five n one? 1842 01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:49,680 Speaker 3: My man here on the on the Indiana website. So 1843 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:51,040 Speaker 3: they they're church and stuff. 1844 01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:54,799 Speaker 2: You know, they gave himself so like just like London. 1845 01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you know, like a proctory they got there 1846 01:19:57,320 --> 01:20:00,679 Speaker 1: taking pounds off. Yeah, good for Indiana. They're putting pounds 1847 01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:04,000 Speaker 1: of inches on this guy, right, so how you better. 1848 01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:05,280 Speaker 2: Be about five eight. 1849 01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,160 Speaker 3: I think he's five eight. I think he's one sixty, 1850 01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:09,400 Speaker 3: but I don't. 1851 01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:14,120 Speaker 2: But again, he's a both he muggsy bone. So I 1852 01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:16,320 Speaker 2: do know he took out this mom and she's short. 1853 01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,599 Speaker 2: Look at this, you know his dad talking. They both 1854 01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:19,439 Speaker 2: high school with me. 1855 01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:24,280 Speaker 9: So I'm from the same area's mom and dad. So 1856 01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:28,840 Speaker 9: I know, bro, I took out my mom took my 1857 01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:35,519 Speaker 9: I mean, my dad's don't work you up. 1858 01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:38,080 Speaker 2: I'm trying to comply say five. I'm trying to. 1859 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,519 Speaker 9: Say he might be because mom's shorting. 1860 01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:43,200 Speaker 2: His dad is much bigger, taller dude. So I'm like, 1861 01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:45,800 Speaker 2: I know, I ain't talk, so who's that he got 1862 01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:52,599 Speaker 2: the you know what, I'm what, But I say all 1863 01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,880 Speaker 2: that to say this man, he's all. He a bother, 1864 01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,760 Speaker 2: He's a frid. He might not talk like Freds move, 1865 01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:02,360 Speaker 2: but he put he put with hands on folks to 1866 01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,120 Speaker 2: take them things to the house. He has the bone 1867 01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:07,519 Speaker 2: and somebody on the field. I think he could play football. 1868 01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,439 Speaker 1: Okay, because we run out of time, We're gonna skip 1869 01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,599 Speaker 1: defensive tackle and linebacker and go to defensive end. 1870 01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:13,360 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, well go with that. 1871 01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:14,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm great with that. 1872 01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:17,559 Speaker 8: So we got Keldrick Falk from Auburn, which you just 1873 01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:19,920 Speaker 8: gush over every time you bring his name. 1874 01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:20,400 Speaker 3: Mile. 1875 01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:24,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you just love it. His feelm just you just yeah, 1876 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:25,880 Speaker 2: just best. 1877 01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:30,200 Speaker 1: Ruben Bain Yeah, and Cassius Howell okay from an m 1878 01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:31,360 Speaker 1: Ruben Bain's from Miami. 1879 01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:32,559 Speaker 3: Needdrick Fos from Auburn. 1880 01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:36,040 Speaker 1: So from what I've heard talking about interviews being important, Yeah, 1881 01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:39,920 Speaker 1: the film for for for Kendrick folks, good, yeah, very good. 1882 01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:41,599 Speaker 3: He's nineteen years old, yes. 1883 01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,679 Speaker 2: Played a lot of football nineteen. He got to school 1884 01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:45,799 Speaker 2: at seventeen, right. 1885 01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:53,439 Speaker 3: Six six, two eighty five. He's pretty I'm talking just yeah. 1886 01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:56,120 Speaker 3: And so what I heard is that this dude has 1887 01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:58,640 Speaker 3: got the highest football character. Yeah, and you know what, 1888 01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:03,120 Speaker 3: coaches love love sitting in that meeting, and they love tall, 1889 01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:07,479 Speaker 3: big people who love football. And so if he interviews, well. 1890 01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:11,599 Speaker 2: So he looked like Armstead, because I see arm Stead 1891 01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:12,320 Speaker 2: at the Super Bowl. 1892 01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,760 Speaker 3: I was like, my Jesus, that's right. 1893 01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:17,200 Speaker 1: So if he interviews, well, we're just talking about it 1894 01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:19,240 Speaker 1: was the top fifteen pick. Yeah, all right, Ruben Ban, 1895 01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,599 Speaker 1: how long are your arms? 1896 01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:23,559 Speaker 2: I know it? 1897 01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:25,960 Speaker 4: But listen to him. I told you that Smooth Alytics. 1898 01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:27,880 Speaker 4: First thing, I need to see their film work. 1899 01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:29,799 Speaker 2: It's good, and his film work. 1900 01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,200 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you this about the film work, though, 1901 01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,040 Speaker 1: doesn't use his hand like a lot of shoulder, a 1902 01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:35,639 Speaker 1: lot of forearm, Like why are we doing that? 1903 01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,920 Speaker 2: Well, you're not a pro yet, you know what I'm saying. 1904 01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,400 Speaker 3: I mean, he's played a lot of ball now, but. 1905 01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:44,160 Speaker 2: It has also been working for him too. Now it's 1906 01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:45,000 Speaker 2: hard to st. 1907 01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:46,479 Speaker 3: So that's one of those things where it's like I 1908 01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:46,880 Speaker 3: want to. 1909 01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:48,400 Speaker 2: Damn it if you do that. I look at it 1910 01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:50,960 Speaker 2: like this. He was coached by two pros two good 1911 01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,519 Speaker 2: pro d Lewis coached the interior D line and you 1912 01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:57,200 Speaker 2: got Jason Taylor coach down jt is that Ruben bin 1913 01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:00,720 Speaker 2: gonna be pro ready. So regardless of his he could be, 1914 01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:03,920 Speaker 2: he can be. He can have dinosaur little call him 1915 01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:06,400 Speaker 2: what you want to call. I think he might be 1916 01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:09,679 Speaker 2: more ready pro wide just off what he's learned already. 1917 01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:11,120 Speaker 2: You think he gonna he ain't gonna go home and 1918 01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:12,240 Speaker 2: get go by those guys. 1919 01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:12,920 Speaker 3: Why do you can tell? 1920 01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:14,640 Speaker 1: Like, I'll tell you this, Like there's something that I 1921 01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,080 Speaker 1: watched and I'm watching defensive lineman, like if you understand 1922 01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:19,639 Speaker 1: the rush line, like are you running away from the tackle? 1923 01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:21,639 Speaker 1: Are you running at the tackle? Like what's the line? 1924 01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,320 Speaker 1: And I have not seen a college prospect. Yeah that 1925 01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:26,800 Speaker 1: owns that line the way he does it. 1926 01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:30,679 Speaker 4: His leverage he plays every time I see him, pays 1927 01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:31,679 Speaker 4: risk somebody bigger. 1928 01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:33,599 Speaker 2: He get under their pains. 1929 01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:35,479 Speaker 3: Yeah so quick. 1930 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,800 Speaker 2: And I ain't never see a dude say you can't 1931 01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,040 Speaker 2: touch me at his side like he did. 1932 01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:41,840 Speaker 3: Yeah two seven. 1933 01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:44,559 Speaker 2: He getting up on your arms, bro and and bringing 1934 01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:45,320 Speaker 2: pain to your quarter. 1935 01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:46,880 Speaker 1: So for me, the only reason the arm thingers is 1936 01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:48,599 Speaker 1: are the thing, because the rumor is they're like twenty 1937 01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:52,840 Speaker 1: nine inches, which would be a historic, Like, nobody plays 1938 01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:53,880 Speaker 1: defensive end with twenty nine. 1939 01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:55,000 Speaker 2: That's basic Joe Pish. 1940 01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:58,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, So so you're like, so if it's like that, 1941 01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,320 Speaker 1: that short, we gotta have a conversation. 1942 01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:02,880 Speaker 3: But if it's just thirty one thirty. 1943 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,920 Speaker 2: Two, like I was him, I went along sleeves and 1944 01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:06,160 Speaker 2: get some extendons. 1945 01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,599 Speaker 3: But that again, that's just a rumor, and we'll find 1946 01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:11,439 Speaker 3: out that's. 1947 01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:12,320 Speaker 2: That's very short. 1948 01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:17,040 Speaker 4: If it is like I'm I'm talking about them out 1949 01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:23,559 Speaker 4: of arms of a dude that's five like think and 1950 01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:28,720 Speaker 4: I had a broken He's got them. 1951 01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,320 Speaker 1: So that was the It's a funny story because apparently 1952 01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,559 Speaker 1: they said, like a rookie scout to go to his 1953 01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:36,320 Speaker 1: arm measurement. So Miami is saying, all the our measurements 1954 01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:37,639 Speaker 1: are wrong. He messed it up. 1955 01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,559 Speaker 2: So say he started at the elbow, so we'll see 1956 01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:49,280 Speaker 2: short because they could be short. It could be I'm 1957 01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:51,160 Speaker 2: not necessarily worried about. I'll tell you what. 1958 01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:54,160 Speaker 4: When I look at his field and I look at 1959 01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:58,640 Speaker 4: cash his half, yeah cash his how is the classic 1960 01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:03,679 Speaker 4: Texas in him? Say you buying a Ferrari with a 1961 01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,360 Speaker 4: Hiven motor in it, like the one thing about it. 1962 01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:09,519 Speaker 3: He looks good. He is, but he plays hard too. 1963 01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:11,920 Speaker 2: He plays hard. But what was the guy that got 1964 01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:18,240 Speaker 2: drafted to Cincinnati last year? That Stewart, Shamar Stewart. 1965 01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:21,840 Speaker 3: But this dude has had like eleven sacks. 1966 01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,479 Speaker 4: I'm just saying his production is better. But he kind 1967 01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:25,879 Speaker 4: of play when he wants to sometimes. 1968 01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:27,880 Speaker 1: That's so there's a little bit of like the jump 1969 01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:31,280 Speaker 1: around like twitchy, but like he is, he's a competitive 1970 01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,720 Speaker 1: sob Yeah, what I thought you're gonna say, Fred with 1971 01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:37,439 Speaker 1: the Chevy motor is he is productive, he plays hard, 1972 01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,720 Speaker 1: he's got good instincts. I don't think he's that good 1973 01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:43,559 Speaker 1: of an athlete. Wow, I worry about that with him. 1974 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:44,880 Speaker 2: So you don't think he's gonna run well. 1975 01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:47,120 Speaker 1: So that's what I want him to run well? Yeah, 1976 01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:48,640 Speaker 1: I want him to run well, Like, don't get a 1977 01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:50,599 Speaker 1: twisted I want him to do well at the combine. 1978 01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:53,120 Speaker 1: But I am concerned that he's not gonna run. 1979 01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,360 Speaker 4: You know what, we had the same conversation about somebody 1980 01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:58,920 Speaker 4: that you claim had the worst body you had ever seen, 1981 01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:01,880 Speaker 4: who was a me Harold, I mean. 1982 01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:05,360 Speaker 2: Harold Fanning the tight end in Cleveland. I said, man, 1983 01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:06,200 Speaker 2: I see that. 1984 01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:11,920 Speaker 4: And didn't run well either, your runway, I said, Man, 1985 01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:15,479 Speaker 4: but I see a ball what Harold Fanner would have 1986 01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:16,360 Speaker 4: that thing with them? 1987 01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:18,360 Speaker 2: Need took him down through them. 1988 01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,439 Speaker 4: I'm just saying sometime things don't look like they're supposed to. 1989 01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:22,280 Speaker 3: All right. 1990 01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:28,439 Speaker 1: So that is our combine preview. And now, Amanda, we 1991 01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:32,080 Speaker 1: have this Olympic rock show. Are you doing this or 1992 01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:32,599 Speaker 1: might doing this? 1993 01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:36,040 Speaker 7: You're you're doing this. You guys are gonna lead. 1994 01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:37,240 Speaker 3: Away quickly, ripped through this. 1995 01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:39,479 Speaker 2: Okay, what are we doing now? Okay, we're gonna go 1996 01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:42,439 Speaker 2: as fast as that speed skater for the can for 1997 01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:42,920 Speaker 2: a long time. 1998 01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:44,599 Speaker 3: Anything saying up from the Olympics so. 1999 01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:48,760 Speaker 4: Far, besides bun falling down there, I think I liked the. 2000 01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:50,960 Speaker 2: Part that just knowing that our hockey team, you know, 2001 01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:51,639 Speaker 2: took home. 2002 01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:54,600 Speaker 4: Go finally got Canada. We did it, all right, we 2003 01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:57,280 Speaker 4: beat you at your sport. Like That's what I'm saying. 2004 01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,719 Speaker 4: I guess what we ain't going Awa because our team 2005 01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:02,840 Speaker 4: is young. Yeah, they are very young. 2006 01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:03,439 Speaker 2: All right. 2007 01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,280 Speaker 3: Also, did you see that what the guy from Canada said? 2008 01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:09,400 Speaker 3: Like watch the film. They we were the better team. 2009 01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:14,439 Speaker 2: They were the better team. But matter, it doesn't matter, 2010 01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:16,559 Speaker 2: say we know, you don't have to be the better 2011 01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:20,800 Speaker 2: team all that matter. We didn't beat plenty of teams 2012 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:21,560 Speaker 2: that were better than that. 2013 01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:22,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2014 01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:24,040 Speaker 1: Also, the other thing that set out to be real 2015 01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:26,599 Speaker 1: quick was the pressure in figure skinning. 2016 01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:27,599 Speaker 3: Do you guys watch figure skating? 2017 01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:28,280 Speaker 2: Listen? 2018 01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:31,400 Speaker 4: I'm in too, slalom, I'm into a couple of more things. 2019 01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,639 Speaker 4: I'm all over the place when they comes to winter sports. 2020 01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:34,040 Speaker 3: You watch. 2021 01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:37,599 Speaker 2: I tell it because my daughter wanted. 2022 01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:40,000 Speaker 4: My daughters wanted to watch it, but me and myself, 2023 01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:42,880 Speaker 4: I'm all about that curly because I used to carry 2024 01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:46,200 Speaker 4: for a living. One of the tops for living is 2025 01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:49,519 Speaker 4: crazy by you top sweepers in America. My mama taught 2026 01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:50,960 Speaker 4: me when I used to clean up the house on 2027 01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:52,960 Speaker 4: weekend and I was sweeping around. 2028 01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:55,800 Speaker 3: So like talented, So what's the technique on the sweep? 2029 01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:56,719 Speaker 3: Like what are you thinking about? 2030 01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:57,200 Speaker 2: See? 2031 01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,800 Speaker 4: This is what you gotta understand once they thing get 2032 01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,320 Speaker 4: the more So it's all about momentum right now and 2033 01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:04,439 Speaker 4: I get to sweeping that thing you know down in 2034 01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:05,880 Speaker 4: there and take that air bow grease out. 2035 01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:08,000 Speaker 2: I can go from what I was clocked in. 2036 01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,839 Speaker 4: I can do one hundred and thirteen sweeps per minute 2037 01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:12,200 Speaker 4: per sixty seconds. 2038 01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:16,439 Speaker 2: All right, so I was, but he couldn't thirty. 2039 01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:21,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, all I'm saying is one of the top 2040 01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:23,599 Speaker 4: sweepers in America. 2041 01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:27,960 Speaker 3: You said one hundred and one hundred and thirteen sixty 2042 01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:31,360 Speaker 3: sweets per second. 2043 01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:37,200 Speaker 4: He came down and went, ain't nothing on TV. I 2044 01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:39,960 Speaker 4: remember when my son were like, what they doing to 2045 01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:44,760 Speaker 4: that ice? I was like, sir, that's high ian sweeping, right, 2046 01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:48,599 Speaker 4: you don't know nothing about it, sweet sweep because you ain't. 2047 01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,040 Speaker 2: Cleaned up since you were born. You don't know nothing 2048 01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:51,960 Speaker 2: about high end sweet. 2049 01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:53,519 Speaker 3: So he's not going to the Olympics for curling. 2050 01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,280 Speaker 2: He ate, but gets what his daddy do. I got 2051 01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:58,639 Speaker 2: a chance to go pro again. It's gonna be in curling. 2052 01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:01,200 Speaker 3: Have you ever curled before? Like legit? Like, don't give 2053 01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:02,320 Speaker 3: me like have you know? 2054 01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:06,479 Speaker 2: Man? Yeah? Yeah, I have curl. One of the best 2055 01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:08,760 Speaker 2: curls in the movie. I can't even You said you 2056 01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:10,559 Speaker 2: wanted for seven seven times in the row? 2057 01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:14,519 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, that was the sweeper they was sweeping. See 2058 01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:16,439 Speaker 4: first I was a sweep. I started off a sweep, 2059 01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:19,400 Speaker 4: then I became a curler. That means I'm hitting on 2060 01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:21,920 Speaker 4: their knee, hitting the glide, letting the thing go at 2061 01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,080 Speaker 4: the right momentum and the right speed to watch it. 2062 01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:28,080 Speaker 3: I don't, but can we together, can we set this 2063 01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:31,479 Speaker 3: up please? Because I've heard that it's I've heard. I've 2064 01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:35,560 Speaker 3: heard you good athletes. They can't stay in the lunch. 2065 01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:36,040 Speaker 2: But I can't. 2066 01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:38,640 Speaker 3: So we I got ice house access. 2067 01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,160 Speaker 2: The word I go to the ice side. The piece 2068 01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:40,599 Speaker 2: is great. 2069 01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:42,920 Speaker 3: There list, So let's go, and I'm gonna get you 2070 01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:45,280 Speaker 3: get your little shoe on, little girl, and then we're 2071 01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:48,040 Speaker 3: gonna see how you curl. We get that recorded, Jason. 2072 01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:50,400 Speaker 2: I wear their shoe sock sponsored by Pooma. 2073 01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:56,280 Speaker 3: Let you know, you know, well, I think that's probably 2074 01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:58,679 Speaker 3: good for today. I think that's good. 2075 01:29:59,120 --> 01:29:59,519 Speaker 2: That's good. 2076 01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:02,960 Speaker 1: So Fred stool the Olympics for curling, Dan and I 2077 01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:05,800 Speaker 1: just like watching them. But in the meantime, please make 2078 01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:07,720 Speaker 1: sure you like to subscribe over eat your podcasts. 2079 01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:09,559 Speaker 3: And that's it. 2080 01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:10,439 Speaker 2: Sweet Day Flow. 2081 01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:13,120 Speaker 1: The Command Center podcast was filmed at the Big Bear 2082 01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:16,719 Speaker 1: AI Command Center studio. Big Bear AI offers Mission Ready 2083 01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:20,120 Speaker 1: AI for a rapidly evolving world, proudly protecting the Washington 2084 01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:21,519 Speaker 1: Commanders and its fans.