1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 2: I'm Brian Curtiz and I'm Doug Krisner. Here are the 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: stories we're following today. 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: The United Airlines says it has found loose bolts in 5 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: multiple Boeing seven thirty seven Max nine jets during inspections. 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: This comes in the wake of a door plug getting 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: blown out of an Alaska Airlines plane over the weekend. 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: As a result, US aviation safety regulators grounded and ordered 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: inspections on some one hundred and seventy one Max nine jets. Today, 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: Boeing issued guidelines to airlines on how to conduct these inspections. 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: It's an initial step that is required before the US 12 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: Federal Aviation Administration could approve a return to flight for 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: the planes. Boeing shares, by the way, closed down eight 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: percent in New York. They are a little changed in 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: after hours, which is interesting because it came after we 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: heard as comments from United Airlines. But that eight percent 17 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: dropping the stock is the biggest decline we've seen in 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,959 Speaker 1: Boeing since October of twenty twenty two. 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: Will the CEO of Jet Blue Airways, Robin Hayes, He's 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 2: going to be stepping down next month. We are told 21 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: his decision came at the urging of his doctor, although 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: no specific health issue is involved. Here's more from Bloomberg's 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: Charlie Pellett. The company says Hayes will be replaced on 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 2: February twelfth by Joanna Garrity, a nearly twenty year Jet 25 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 2: Blue veteran who is currently serving as president. The fifty 26 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: seven year old Hayes has been CEO since February of 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, and Jet Blue shares have declined by about 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: two thirds since then. The transition comes at a critical 29 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: time for Jet Blue, as it awaits a federal judge's 30 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: ruling on whether it's pending three point eight billion dollar 31 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: takeover of Spirit Airlines violates antitrust laws and should be 32 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: blocked in New York Charlie Pellett. 33 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio shares closed at a record an up six 34 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: point four percent in the latest session after the company 35 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: unveiled three new desktop graphics chips. These extra components will 36 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: let gamers, designers, and others computer makers and users get 37 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: better use of AI in their personal machines. We heard 38 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: earlier from Bloomberg Z and King. 39 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: AI has been an enormous benefit for this company already. 40 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 3: It's proved materially that this is real, that this is 41 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: about actual sales and actual deployment. Again in video comes 42 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: out here and says, hey, don't forget about us. This AIPC, 43 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: that Intel, that AMD has been talking about. We can 44 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 3: do this too, and actually we think we're better than IAS. 45 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: So again that's likely to press the right kind of 46 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 3: button with investors and with saying that reaction. 47 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Z and King separately in video said the capabilities 48 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: of its new products will not trigger rules put in 49 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: place by the US government to limit the export of 50 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: AI related chips to China. And again and video shares 51 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: a very good session of six point four percent. 52 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: We go to China next, where the central Bank is 53 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: hinting at further monetary easing with a possible cut in 54 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 2: banks reserve ratios. The story from Bloomberg zivon men in 55 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: Hong Kong. 56 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 4: The PBOC may use a sortied monetary policy tools to 57 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: provide more support. The central Bank's head of monetary Policy, 58 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 4: Joe Lahn, said these tools include money market operations, medium 59 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 4: term lending facilities, and reserve requirements. The comments come after 60 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 4: the Central Bank already provided a massive amount of liquidity 61 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 4: in recent weeks. Back in July, Zoe made similar comments 62 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 4: in public before the Central Bank made a triple r 63 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 4: cut in September. Much of this may already be priced 64 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 4: into markets. Last month, economists pulled by Bloomberg forecast a 65 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 4: twenty five basis point cut in the first quarter of 66 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 4: this year. In Hong Kong I'm Yvon Mann Bloomberg Radio. 67 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: Meantime, Chinese President Shijin Ping is pledging to deepen the 68 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: country's crackdown on corruption. Bloomberg's Juan Wong has that story. 69 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: From Hong Kong. 70 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 5: President, she said he would increase punishment for people who 71 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 5: offer bribes. CCTV says she urged tighter monitoring to prevent 72 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 5: the spread of graft to news sectors. He highlighted finance, energy, 73 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 5: infrat structure, pharmaceutical and state owned firms as the main 74 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 5: areas of focus. She has repeatedly foiled a zero tolerance 75 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 5: on corruption since he took office in twenty twelve. Just 76 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 5: last year, China investigated a number of high profile bankers. 77 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 5: These include former Bank of China chairman Liul Janga and 78 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 5: former China Development Bank Vice president Jo ching Yu. In 79 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 5: Hong Kong, joined Wan Bloomberg Radio. 80 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 2: Sony is planning to call off the ten billion dollar 81 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: merger agreement of its Indian unit with Z Entertainment. We 82 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 2: are told it's due to a standoff over leadership. Seems 83 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: as though there were questions surrounding whether Z CEO punit Goenca, 84 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: who is also incidentally the founder's son, would lead this 85 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: new merged entity. Back in twenty twenty one, in agreement 86 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: was signed for go Inca to lead the new company. However, 87 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: Sony no longer wants him to be in the role. 88 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: Sony seems to be a little wary about a regulatory 89 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: probe against him, and now Sony is working on sending 90 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,679 Speaker 2: a termination Noticed by January twentieth for World. 91 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: News, Donald Trump is looking to have one of his 92 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: court cases thrown out. We get more on this from 93 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,679 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Dan Schwartzman, Dan, that's correct, Brian. 94 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 6: In a filing today in Atlanta, Georgia, Trump has asked 95 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 6: a judge to throughout the state's criminal case against him. 96 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 6: The former president has been accused of leading a conspiracy 97 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 6: to overturn the twenty twenty election. Now, Trump argues he 98 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 6: should be immune from prosecution due to having been acquitted 99 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 6: by the Senate after being impeached for the same conduct. 100 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 6: Trump will also use the same argument on Tuesday during 101 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 6: an appeals court hearing in Washington after a district judge 102 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 6: struck down his immunity defense. President Biden speaking in Charleston, 103 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 6: South Carolina, today as he tries to make his case 104 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 6: to black voters as to why they should support him 105 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 6: like they did in twenty twenty. The president's favorability amongst 106 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 6: black voters felt to sixty one percent in December. That's 107 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 6: down seven percent from October. Donald Trump holding steady a 108 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 6: twenty five percent. Biden was interrupted by pro Palestinian protesters 109 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 6: during his speech. He says he's working to get Israel 110 00:05:59,040 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 6: out of Gaza. 111 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 7: I understand their passion, and I've been quietly working. I've 112 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 7: been quietly working with the Israeli government to get them 113 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 7: to reduce and significantly get out from Gaza. I'm using 114 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 7: all I can to do. 115 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 6: As President Biden speaking in South Carolina. Secretary of State 116 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 6: Anthony Blincoln continuing his fourth tour the Middle East since 117 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 6: Hamas's October seventh attack on Israel with a meeting with 118 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 6: Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. Blincoln is attempting 119 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 6: to calm the region while also urging Israel to do 120 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 6: more to protect civilians in Gaza. The Secretary also took 121 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 6: the time to warn the Iranian Baktruthy militants that there 122 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 6: will be consequences for attacking commercial ships in the Red Sea. 123 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 6: Hes BLA says that a senior commander we sum Taweel 124 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 6: was killed in an Israeli airstrike on a car in 125 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 6: southern Lebanon. The terror organization and Israel have been trading 126 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 6: fire daily since Hamasa's attack on Israel. Senior Israeli officials 127 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 6: have warned that they are prepared to militarily moves law 128 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 6: from the northern border if a diplomatic solution is not achieved, 129 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 6: with time for a resolution running out. The first US 130 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 6: moon landing in fifty years seemingly is doomed, as the 131 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 6: Pittsburgh based Astrobotic Technology says the spacecraft developed a quote 132 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 6: critical fuel leak hours after takeoff. The company says they 133 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 6: had managed to point the lander toward the sun to 134 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 6: allow for the solar panel to collect enough sunlight to 135 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 6: charge its battery. While determining the next steps Astrobotic is 136 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 6: aiming to be the first private company to land on 137 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 6: the Moon, with NASA having giving them and a Houston 138 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 6: based company millions of dollars to build and fly lunar landers. 139 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 6: The second company is scheduled to make an attempt on 140 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 6: the Moon next month. Global News twenty four hours a 141 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 6: day and whenever you want it with Bloomberg News Now. 142 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 6: I'm Dan Schwarzman, and this is Bloomberg. 143 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm Brand Curtis in Hong Kong. This is Bloomberg Daybreak, Gajia. 144 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: Paul Allen joins us now from Sydney, and our guest 145 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: is George Ferguson, Bloomberg Intelligence senior Aerospace and Airlines analyst, 146 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: to look closer at this Boeing story in all the latest, 147 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: so George, this latest disclosure by United Airlines would seem 148 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: to be quite troubling as it involves multiple jets being 149 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: affected by this, although the testing apparently was confined to 150 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: the Max Dash nine jets. And we'll get into maybe 151 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: later whether or not this could spread, but in the 152 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: short term, could this set back hopes now that the 153 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: FAA might clear these planes anytime soon? 154 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 8: You know, first, thanks for having me on. I just 155 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 8: think that I think given the problems with the Alaska airflight, 156 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 8: I think the FAA would have wanted inspection of all 157 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 8: the airplanes of the fleet anyways, And so my senses 158 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:45,479 Speaker 8: it doesn't necessarily slow things down or change the inspection program. 159 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 8: I do think that, you know, this plug is typically 160 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 8: used on the longer version of the seven three seven, 161 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 8: so I think that the risk that it spreads to 162 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 8: the rest of the MAX fleet is lower. And this 163 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 8: is not even a plug in the smaller of the 164 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 8: airplane as near as we can tell, and so I 165 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 8: think that it probably does stay limited to the DASH nine. 166 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 9: Yeah, another small development that we heard of that is 167 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 9: kind of curious. The cockpit flight recorder got overridden. First off, 168 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 9: since when was that a thing? And secondly, what are 169 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 9: the implications? 170 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, i'd heard this as well, and so you know, 171 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 8: it's like one of those hard drives that probably overwrites 172 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 8: itself every so many hours. And my guess is though, 173 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 8: that there's wasn't a lot to learn necessarily from the cockpit, 174 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 8: right the pilots got the airplane back intact, thankfully, you know, 175 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 8: to the airport. I'm sure there's a bunch of stress 176 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 8: in the cockpit. But I really think that the majority 177 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 8: of what we're going to learn about this flight is 178 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 8: going to be back at the door plug and the 179 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 8: piece they found on the ground. 180 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: It seems like what we've learned so far is that 181 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: this is more of a manufacturing issue rather than a 182 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: design issue. Is that correct? And is that somewhat less 183 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: troubling then? To clean up the manufacturing side rather than design, 184 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: I think. 185 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 8: It is less troubling. I think it would be a 186 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 8: silver lining for Boeing. You hate to have this happen 187 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 8: under any circumstances. But when you look at the the 188 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 8: you know, the way that the plug, You look at 189 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 8: these sort of the shots later on, and you see 190 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 8: where the plug was in the airplane and how clean 191 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 8: the plug seemed to have left the airplane, it does 192 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 8: seem to indicate that either fasteners failed or someone didn't 193 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 8: apply the fasteners correctly. And I think the United News 194 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 8: kind of confirms that maybe somebody on the manufacturing line 195 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 8: didn't understand the right procedure for, you know, for applying 196 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 8: this plug. 197 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 9: Are we potentially seeing a bit of a blame game 198 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 9: starting to emerge here as well as to whether it's 199 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 9: Boeing's process is at fault, perhaps Spirit that makes the fuselage, 200 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 9: or even this other company when hearing about AI which 201 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 9: should installed Wi Fi during a maintenance period. 202 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, so the ar is a sort of a late 203 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 8: breaking story. And I guess I'd have to hear that 204 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 8: they had done the dome on both Alaska and United 205 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 8: and a bunch of airplanes. I think we'd have to 206 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 8: find sort of more evidence that would tie them together. 207 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 8: I would think that there, you know, there's always a 208 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 8: potential for blame game here. But at the end of 209 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 8: the day, Boeing manufactures the airplane and warrants to be 210 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 8: warrants it to be air worthy as it leaves their factory. 211 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 8: And so I think, as much as they might have 212 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 8: a supplier problem with Spirit not doing the work right, 213 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 8: it's their job to make sure the airplane leaves the 214 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 8: factory ready to go. And so I think that you 215 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 8: can't get away with too much of that, And I 216 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 8: would just, you know, I sort of follow that up 217 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 8: a bit with Boeing can't make the seven thirty seven, 218 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 8: any version of it without Spirit Aerosystems. And so as 219 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 8: much as they may want to say, hey, look, our 220 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 8: supplier did this, is not our fault. They you know, 221 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 8: they need spirit to survive and they need spirit to thrive, 222 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 8: and so again they can only get away with so 223 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 8: much of that. They really need to get down there 224 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 8: if the problems is spirit, and help Spirit fix the problem, 225 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 8: because that's the way forward for both Spirit and for Boeing. 226 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: Just asking this from a pure layman standpoint, you know, 227 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: getting back to the question of these plugs. You know, 228 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: these these areas of the plane which might have a door, 229 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: but in this case was had a plug block in 230 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: there and that's what blew off and caused this. Since this, 231 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: if it ultimately is a manufacturing issue, wouldn't this kind 232 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: of raise questions about many other planes no matter what, 233 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: because you know a lot of these manufacturing processes, you know, 234 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: these people are working on multiple types of planes. 235 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 7: Yeah. 236 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 8: So Spirit though, has you know, a heavy amount of 237 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 8: work on the seven thirty seven. So I think that 238 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 8: you're you know, if it's a problem it's spirit, Does 239 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 8: it mean that it's a problem on a lot of 240 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 8: different narrow bodies? Not necessarily. Plugs are used on a 241 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 8: lot of different airplanes that have been used effectively for many, 242 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 8: many many years, right, And you know, I think as well, you. 243 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 8: If there's a problem with a plug, significant enough problem 244 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 8: that it's not going to be able to maintain pressure, 245 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 8: you're going to know it, I think pretty soon when 246 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 8: you get into service. And this particular airplane have been 247 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 8: in service less than three months, so I don't think 248 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 8: I don't think it's something that we all have need 249 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 8: to be overly concerned about. But again I think on 250 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 8: the on the dash nine you do, and we need 251 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 8: to make an inspection on everything in the fleet to 252 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 8: feel safe. 253 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 9: Can you give us a bit of a saints of 254 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 9: the task. I hate NAFA Boeing in terms of restoring trust, 255 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 9: restoring its reputation. Is there anything comparable in your experience? 256 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 8: No, the I mean, I think these last four or 257 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 8: five years of Boeing have been I would I would 258 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 8: say perhaps unprecedented, and starting from the mcast debacle, with 259 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 8: the with the crashes and getting to hear I think 260 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 8: we can see how this occurred. Right the airplane was 261 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 8: grounded prior to the pandemic. I think you know that 262 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 8: led the stress on the workforce. People may decide to leave. 263 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 8: There were reductions in workforce. Then you hit a pandemic 264 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 8: where travel goes to almost zero. And you can understand 265 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 8: why other people might say that would be their time 266 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 8: to leave the business. So I think the way forward 267 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 8: is really about training the workforce extremely well, and they 268 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 8: may have to overdo that here. 269 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, George, thank you very good information. George Ferguson, 270 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Intelligence Senior Aerospace and Airlines Analyst. 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