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Speaker 1: It's way up with Angela.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we definitely way up today because Buster Rhymes is here.

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Speaker 3: Chunk that talk, Chunk that talk. Boss lady listen.

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Speaker 2: I first want to talk about the fact that you

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Speaker 2: have so many women that have been very instrumental in

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Speaker 2: your career. Before we started this, we talked about a

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Speaker 2: lecture and Sylvia your own Yes, Queen. I saw your

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Speaker 3: Oh, Rebecca is that her name? I just my tour manager, okay,

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Speaker 3: Rebecca Forth?

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Speaker 4: Oh no, Delanie, yeah, DELIMIELI.

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Speaker 2: Woman, who's your engineers? I feel it's very rare, you know,

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Speaker 2: in this business. And then the women that you have

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Speaker 2: on the album. I saw your tribute to Missy Elliott,

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Speaker 2: what you wrote to her, and I just appreciate the

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Speaker 2: fact that you've always been so embracing of women, because

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Speaker 2: this is an industry where that doesn't always happen, both

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Queen.

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Speaker 4: For me, my greatest successes and my biggest support came

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Speaker 3: Women.

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Speaker 4: But the woman that had started with was my mom's

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Speaker 4: wasn't a fan of none of this rap thing. Like

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Speaker 4: he's his whole thing. You know, he's the old fashioned, stern,

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Speaker 4: strong willed Jamaican man. And his whole thing was, you

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Speaker 4: need to learn this trade. I'm a licensed electrical contractor.

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Speaker 4: I respect people that learn trade, and we live and

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Speaker 4: So a bunch of his friends is carpenters and plumbers,

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Speaker 4: when it comes to lives that you got to be

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Speaker 4: But his thing was really it was a real weird

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Speaker 4: us rock create our music. We created two songs. We

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Speaker 4: my mother was way different. My moms was with whatever

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Speaker 2: That I'm just happy to see my son in something. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: That's a fact, Angela. Because you know, I was finding

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Speaker 1: Right man? I can we go back to getting boodh

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Speaker 4: Like, nah, it was a lot of There was tears,

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Speaker 1: It was like, I'm not I don't see this word.

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Speaker 4: I'm not doing none of this. Let me get this

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Speaker 2: Like that, right, that's telling And when they've been that

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Speaker 3: Yo. That ship is the worst shit. So for my moms.

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Speaker 2: To Mona Scott Young, you're right, Mona Scott was your

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Speaker 4: To Rebecca Forster, my tour manager for thirty two years,

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Speaker 1: Then they was chilling to take some time to maturity.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maturity for sure, my kids. You know, you never

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Speaker 2: Yeah, co parenting is tough, and sometimes the kids end

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Speaker 4: And the beautiful part was the sacrifice that was made

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Speaker 1: Oh, I gotta say on the album, what a full

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Speaker 4: So crazy to see I got one daughter. Yeah, thank you, queen.

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Speaker 4: Come on now, I can't beat the bias pops with

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Speaker 4: come on, Bede Like, we don't want to tell you

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Speaker 4: He actually was excited about coming to the studio. What

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Speaker 4: damn way. You know I'm hearing things that sounded wrong.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing to see all these artists who are now

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Speaker 2: And I feel like this is something you never used

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Speaker 3: That's like hanging out from the lounges chair. My nephew.

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Speaker 1: It feels like you have to plan more of these

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Speaker 3: Nah, we're doing it tonight, Are you serious?

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Speaker 1: Everybody's here?

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Speaker 4: Okay, everybody's here except my youngest Sakario in the Minneapolis

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Speaker 3: Ok. But I'm gonna give you all of the deats.

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Speaker 4: And we're doing an album listening, and we're doing the

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Speaker 1: Finished, it's going to hear tomorrow. So don't worry. Nobody's

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Speaker 3: But we're doing the AMC.

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Speaker 1: You might as well say it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're doing the AMC on forty second Street.

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Speaker 1: There and you were playing You had a lot of songs.

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Speaker 3: Was we in a studio called Winmark, I don't.

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Speaker 2: People work in different ways. Some people don't like to

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Speaker 2: You know, listen, I've been a fan since Leaders of

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Speaker 4: I'm like, this is the reason that I'm gonna start

439
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 4: rhyming right now because I'm a disrespect dude.

440
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 3: Tomorrow. I can't wait and I can't take it.

441
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 4: So I wrote a rhyme and came back the next

442
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 4: day and bust his head in, and then he decided

443
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 4: to create this group by saying, Yo, you know you nice.

444
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 4: Your mom was crazy. You got it today, let's let's

445
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 4: let's get down with each other. I wasn't trying to

446
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 4: pursue being on EMC like that at the time. I

447
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 4: ended up started to rock with Brown. Then you know,

448
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 4: we met Mystery, and then we agreed on Mystery being

449
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 4: in a group, and then Mystery he bouncing the Brown

450
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 4: found Dinko, and Brown brought Dinto's so and then I

451
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 4: brought Malow was the dj because that's my blood cousin,

452
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 4: his mother and.

453
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 3: My mother's sisters.

454
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 4: At this point between that with Brown feeling like he

455
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 4: kind of created the group and Brown feeling like he

456
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 4: was the plug to us getting access to the Chuck

457
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 4: D's and the Eric Vietnam saddlers and that whole Bomb

458
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 4: Squad experience, he felt like he was the brainchild of

459
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 4: the group, so it was in his mind it should

460
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 4: be about him. When people started to hear me after

461
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 4: the first Leaders album came out and PTA and all

462
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 4: of these songs, it became it was Buster Rams, this

463
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 4: dungeon dragon dude, like he's crazy with this energy.

464
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 3: And then when scenario came, his said, oh.

465
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: Man, that was it. That was like, right, it's solo.

466
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 4: So it just it just it shifted the attention from

467
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 4: Brown to me so crazy that it became a serious

468
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 4: turbulence in the crew. And at that point, you know,

469
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 4: I had just I'm the first one to have a child,

470
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 4: but I'm the youngest in the group, and we broke up.

471
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 4: I definitely was scared to go solo because I wasn't

472
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 4: even I had not yet experienced what it was to

473
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 4: take on the responsibility of putting the whole project together

474
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 4: by myself. You know, you write your little sixteen on

475
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 4: the record with two other mcs. Out of there, you

476
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 4: got your little thirty second space to rhyme, and then

477
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 4: you gone having to do that times three verses and

478
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 4: come up with the hook and do that for ten

479
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 4: twelve fourteen songs by yourself. I wasn't with none of

480
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 4: that responsibility. So when I had my child, all of

481
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 4: that changed, and me jumping on everybody record to feed

482
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 4: my child because I couldn't get shit money because the group,

483
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 4: I couldn't get the money without the rest of the

484
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 4: group showing up.

485
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: Did they try to replace you at that time? Or

486
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: did they just disband.

487
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 3: Bosh Rom's is irreplaceable, and.

488
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 2: You know how people will, You know, they'd be like, Okay,

489
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 2: we're going to keep the group going.

490
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 3: We just I don't. I don't know.

491
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 4: I don't know if they'd even tried, But I just

492
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 4: knew that that that. Nothing happened with the group after that,

493
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 4: and I was kind of forced to go solo because

494
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 4: the way the deal was done, Electra had us all

495
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 4: still obligated to deliver projects as solo artists in the

496
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 4: in the event of us breaking up. Ever happening.

497
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 1: They know they've seen that story before too many times.

498
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 2: That's why when Mutan did their deal, it was so

499
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 2: different because they all were still able to pursue solo.

500
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 4: Most incredible thing we've ever seen for the first time

501
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 4: was when WU did their business the way they did

502
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 4: it because as the group, because they were still able

503
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 4: to go wherever else they wanted to with solo artists,

504
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 4: which was groundbreaking for all of us. It was aspiring

505
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 4: as hell, you know what I'm saying. So I had

506
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 4: to rhyme on everybody else record finding my way in

507
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 4: other people studio sessions, calling studio sessions. I was already

508
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 4: cool with all of the studios. I was cool with

509
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 4: the receptionists.

510
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: That's how you got to get in good with the

511
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: reception is.

512
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 4: I gotta get in good with the receptionists. They're gonna

513
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 4: tell you who up there. When they leaving, you can

514
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 4: get to calculate how much time you got to come

515
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 4: up there.

516
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 3: And walk in they session. Yep, got enough time.

517
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 4: To calculate when you're gonna get the good weed, so

518
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 4: that when you pull up, you roll that weed. When

519
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 4: you walk in the door, you pass the bloot around

520
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 4: niggas can't kick you out the session until they give

521
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 4: you back your butt. You ride the verse quick enough

522
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,719
Speaker 4: before the weed come back to you. These niggas got

523
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 4: inquiring about what you coming up with in the corner.

524
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 4: Let me get in the booth. I'm in the booth.

525
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 4: Once I spit, you can't hit the record no more

526
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 4: without the I got dungeon, oh so over.

527
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 2: Once I did that, What did your dad have to

528
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 2: say at this point when things dissed working out?

529
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 4: He definitely was respecting it, but he still wasn't giving

530
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 4: me the confirmation until after Wuha went platinum in the

531
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 4: first six weeks of his release and the coming album

532
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 4: went platinum. I would say within six months, no, about

533
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 4: nine months, almost a year, when the renegotiation for When

534
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 4: Disaster Strikes album happened and that bag came, and then

535
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 4: the publishing deal that we did that went with that

536
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 4: bag from the album.

537
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: Deal came, He's like, you've got something.

538
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: Nah.

539
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 4: This is when he respected it because my pops, my pops,

540
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 4: you know him.

541
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 3: And his crew. They was kind of show off.

542
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 4: So we had this one uncle that his name was

543
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 4: Uncle Bobby, and he owned the bar and he was

544
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 4: always with the fly whip, the little bends in the

545
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 4: Cadillac and the pinky ring, and he always had people

546
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 4: coming in his bar to entertained the night life thing.

547
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 3: And he was just a fly dude.

548
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 4: And my father used to always big him up because

549
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 4: of his whole drip and then the swag at the time.

550
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 4: I put the nice presidential rollie on his hand with

551
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 4: the diamond bezel, and I put a mean pinky ring

552
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 4: on his finger with some good clear vvss, and I

553
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 4: got him incredible s class bends and he was able

554
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 4: to pull up on Uncle Bibbon walk different. He's like, oh,

555
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 4: so you got money to do all of this at

556
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 4: once for me. I see that he figured it out

557
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 4: as I hit him with the exact shit. He said

558
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 4: to me at the Apollo, I told you, I told

559
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 4: you so.

560
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: That's an amazing feeling.

561
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 4: Most amazing feeling ever. And he rode with it. He

562
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 4: was forced through. He's gonna respect it if you force

563
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 4: his hand and respect it.

564
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: Earn it. That's all he's on that earn my respect.

565
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 3: And I'm with you.

566
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,719
Speaker 2: I know you said you've been working on your documentary

567
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: for like eight years. Now that it is about nine years.

568
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: Where does it start.

569
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 4: And it actually starts from birth. It starts with my

570
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 4: moms and my pops before they had me. Just so

571
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 4: I could give a little understanding on why I'm the

572
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 4: way I am. They humble beginnings, what they came from,

573
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 4: what they stood for, and that respect thing and that

574
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 4: integrity thing, and that family, that love within the family

575
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 4: was super strong in the crib, and the Christian faith

576
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 4: was super strong in the crib, and the respecting was

577
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 4: at the ultimate level of zero tolerance. Like you can't

578
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 4: respond to my mother or my father without saying yes dad,

579
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 4: no dad, yes mom, no Mom. You can't acknowledge them

580
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 4: how you would acknowledge your friend in the street, because

581
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 4: as far as they concerned, they're not your friend. You

582
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. That whole way that I rock

583
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 4: with my kids now, like we could be in the club.

584
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: And you know that would happened.

585
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 4: It never happened, you know what I'm saying. The the

586
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 4: most that I was able to actually chill them around

587
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 4: the company was when you know, I was able to

588
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 4: entertain the company my moms in them had when they

589
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 4: was playing music and I get on my James Brown

590
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 4: split shit so that I could avoid the nine o'clock

591
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 4: curtain to go to bed nice with the James Brown split.

592
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 4: You couldn't tell me nothing. And all of that showmanship

593
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 4: came from just not wanting to go to bed, you

594
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And one thing led to my

595
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 4: mom's in the before. I ain't never want to go

596
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 4: to bed at nine o'clock. I would perform. I would

597
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 4: find a way to distract them from paying attention to

598
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 4: that clock. And then you some time when the family

599
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 4: and friends come over and they sipping a little bit

600
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 4: of that firewater and they got some of that firewater

601
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 4: running through their vein, and they little nice and saucy,

602
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 4: they forget to watch the clock. So I was rocking

603
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 4: them until they started to feel like they wanted to

604
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 4: go to sleep. And that's that was my way of

605
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 4: for niggling a lot, just being able to entertain my family.

606
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: How did you break the news when you were having

607
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: your first child?

608
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 4: Interestingly, Caribbean people is interesting in this way. My mother

609
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 4: would dream about fish and shrimp and lobster if I

610
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 4: got a woman pregnant, and she would come to me

611
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 4: and ask me if I got a woman pregnant before

612
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 4: I would tell her, and then she would be like,

613
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 4: she would be like, you know, last night, two nights ago,

614
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 4: I dream I dream, I dream about fish, I mean

615
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 4: dream about shrimp. I'm a dream about some lobstern crab.

616
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 4: So we have pregnant, got me.

617
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 3: Your angela. I ain't even gonna front. It.

618
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 4: Used to scare me because I used to be like,

619
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 4: I'm already six to eight weeks into knowing that this

620
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 4: is a real situation, and I don't want to say

621
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 4: nothing until I confirm, So I'm waiting until the blood tests.

622
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 3: With the mother of my three boys.

623
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 4: I was excited because we was in love like that

624
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 4: at the time when I was in high school. But

625
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 4: everything else after that it wasn't relationships that I wanted to,

626
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 4: you know, get into that level or that dynamic, because

627
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 4: those relationships wasn't as in depth, right. You know, obviously

628
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 4: you want to be sure that you want to do

629
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 4: this with the woman that you're doing it with before

630
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 4: you do it, and be very clear that that's the

631
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 4: woman you want to do it with. And even at

632
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 4: that age when you think you want to do it,

633
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 4: you ain't even thinking the right way about how to

634
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 4: choose the right woman to be the one that you

635
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,719
Speaker 4: get pregnant or to mother your child. So again, like

636
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 4: you said that, you know you're young, you immature, you

637
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 4: ain't going about nothing right in life. So that's how

638
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,479
Speaker 4: it used to come to me. My mom's was really

639
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 4: strange and accurate with them lobster and crab and shrimp

640
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 4: dreams when a woman was pregnant.

641
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: And you think because you were still in high school

642
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: right when you had your first three well the first

643
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: one with the mother that you were with in high

644
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: school and onward, you think dynamics changed when you started

645
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: to really have to be like on the road and

646
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: be buster rhymes.

647
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it definitely.

648
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 4: Created some turn on with me and the mother of

649
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 4: my child at the time for my three boys, who

650
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 4: again was my high school sweetheart.

651
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: Interestingly though.

652
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 4: She was a little character to winning around here.

653
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: You guys were young.

654
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, we was young, and we wasn't ready to be

655
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 4: serious in a relationship. But we did love each other

656
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 4: and we was in love and we thought we was.

657
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 4: It felt like it we was. But when we realized

658
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 4: that we wasn't really ready was once we started to

659
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 4: have children because we were just way too who too

660
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 4: much responsibility that went into that that we wasn't ready for.

661
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 4: And you know, at the end of the day, I

662
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 4: don't know no other way but to take responsibility because

663
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 4: my mom's raised us. My mother and my father raised

664
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 4: us wonderfully. I'm not ever going to sit here in

665
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 4: front like my household wasn't well provided for. I don't

666
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 4: got one of them stories where I could sit around

667
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 4: in front about struggling and being in the hood and

668
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 4: not having nothing.

669
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was never given that.

670
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 3: Nah.

671
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't say because even like I said, when

672
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: you first came out, it was relatable.

673
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: It was in school, you guys, y'all had a car story.

674
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: What it wasn't.

675
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 3: Like that, Nah, we wasn't. I would never.

676
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 4: I would never fabricate my past to be valid and

677
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 4: incredible in the street.

678
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 2: Well do you mean people feel like in hip hop

679
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 2: that has to be like this, you know, struggle story

680
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 2: of growing up a certain way, and people will really

681
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: try to make it seem like I was sleeping with

682
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 2: the car in the car, I was homelands, we didn't

683
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: have anything. A lot of people do do that and

684
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: feel like that's where it has to come from.

685
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 4: I think a lot of the times it's a combination

686
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 4: of things I think, you know, I think like when

687
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 4: I was saying it at the BT Awards during the

688
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 4: Lifetime and Treatment Award speech, when I was saying I

689
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 4: directed a part of the conversation to the executives, and

690
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 4: I think that there's been a conscious effort for a

691
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 4: long time to make sure that certain artists, certain type

692
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 4: of artists, in certain content can't even compete with the

693
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 4: success of the narratives of suffering and struggle and broken

694
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 4: home environment and hood and the environment that just ain't

695
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 4: built on no code of ethics. That is a primary factor. Obviously,

696
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 4: people gonna do what's gonna work, and then you're gonna

697
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 4: fabric because you feel like that's what you gotta do

698
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 4: in order for it to work. Fortunately, you got a

699
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 4: J Colon, you got Kendrick, and you got dudes that

700
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 4: you know they put music out. You got Jed, you

701
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 4: got schman on, you you got a lot of dudes

702
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 4: that they dan't out here trying to fabricate like they've

703
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 4: been in the street sticking something up, busting their gun

704
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 4: and moving the most bricks because they found a way

705
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 4: to tell their truth and share their truth and be

706
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 4: successful and making a lucrative thing. But We was also

707
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 4: raised in a time where the gangster and the hustler

708
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 4: and the extortionists and the murderer and the shooter. They

709
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 4: still have these coder ethnics that was super as crazy

710
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 4: as they might have been, you can't see somebody. Moms

711
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 4: that live on this block, and all of the goons

712
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 4: that came off of this block know that they've been

713
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 4: knowing this mother since they were shorties. Moms come off

714
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 4: for the beef thirty five on Church Avenue and Troy

715
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 4: and these flat bush and she got shopping bags when

716
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 4: she get off the bus from a full dead work

717
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 4: with her ankle swollen, and dudes, don't that smoking they

718
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 4: weed and cigarette. Don't put it out and throw it

719
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 4: away and go help moms with her shopping bags and

720
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 4: walk her to the crib and bring it upstairs and

721
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 4: put her grocery away and greet it as missus Green

722
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 4: or missus Smith or whatever her last name is. And

723
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 4: the respect was it wasn't even you actually would get

724
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 4: your ass bus if you didn't put the split out

725
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 4: when you've seen everybody else do it. After we let

726
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 4: moms get upstairs, We let the neighbors. Moms get upstairs.

727
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 4: If you didn't do it. We come outside the use

728
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 4: getting your head bus one time. It wasn't even a discussion,

729
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 4: so you knew it ain't a discussion. You don't make

730
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 4: the mistake again. This is what's gonna happen every time.

731
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 4: So with that, there was integrity even outside the house. Okay,

732
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 4: there was accountability in a real way outside the house.

733
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 4: You can't add somebody and talk disrespectful to them from

734
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 4: a social media platform. You talk disrespectful, you was gonna

735
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 4: get seen or somebody was coming to pull up on you,

736
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: and you was gonna get dealt with because you had

737
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 4: to stand on that shit that was coming out of

738
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 4: your mouth. Last, but not least, if you was in

739
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 4: the street as a shorty with the big homies and

740
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 4: they eventually seen potentially you because you was able to

741
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 4: either get nice with sports in some kind of way

742
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 4: or you got nice with the music in some kind

743
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 4: of way, they're gonna keep you out the street because

744
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 4: they actually want you to help them get out the

745
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 4: street by getting legit, becoming successful and drag my ass

746
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 4: through this ship too.

747
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

748
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 4: This opened some businesses, even if the business isn't legit

749
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna wash more money through this little cleaners if

750
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 4: you put me on as a manager or something. But

751
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 4: whatever the case may be, it was done to push

752
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 4: each other forward in a productive way, even if you

753
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 4: came from that. A lot of dudes in our era

754
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 4: who parents bust, they ask to make sure their kids

755
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 4: didn't need My parents was parents like that too. We

756
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 4: got in the street anyway because we grew up around

757
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 4: dudes that was in it that we knew our whole life.

758
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 4: We trusted those dudes.

759
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 3: Because we knew each other. When they succeeded in that street,

760
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 3: we did look up to them.

761
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 4: And not only did we look up to them, they

762
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,479
Speaker 4: genuinely cared about us. We genuinely see them care about

763
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 4: our parents. We genuinely seen them care about the other

764
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 4: parents that was on the same block. And this is

765
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 4: the people that we knew. So you did things and

766
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 4: you got involved with things because you liked the excitement.

767
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 4: You wanted to be a part of what you saw

768
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 4: that the people you was familiar with was a part of.

769
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 4: You ain't do it because you had to do it.

770
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 4: We was straight, We wasn't broke, We wasn't hungry like that. Yeah,

771
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 4: I ain't like the kicks that my moms might have

772
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 4: bought me. She was on some prod shit forever, you

773
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And the homies pulled up with

774
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 4: the Pumas and the Dedas in the valleys and the

775
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 4: clocks and the Wallabies. I wanted those. So if a

776
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 4: moms ain't gonna do it, then I got to get

777
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 4: to this bag with the homies so I could go

778
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 4: to school the way I want to look, right. So

779
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 4: it became a little more of that than actually needing

780
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 4: to do it.

781
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

782
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: No, And speaking of which, I want to get to

783
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: the album right. So you started off with the statement,

784
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: and you know, it's been over thirty years since you

785
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: started off in this business, which I'm sure in your

786
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: head you could never have anticipated where you would be today.

787
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: You're in a space where you don't need to do this.

788
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 3: That's a fact, right.

789
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: You love to do it, but you don't need to

790
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: do it.

791
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: How is writing different when it's not something like when

792
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 2: you were younger, Like you said, this wasn't something that

793
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 2: you necessarily wanted to do from the beginning, and then

794
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: you were forced into this solo career. How is writing

795
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 2: different now when it's not something that you have to do,

796
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 2: but it's something that you just love doing.

797
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 4: It is the best and the most happiest, enjoyful time

798
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 4: of my life because several reasons. The first reason, which

799
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 4: is the most important reason, is exactly what you said.

800
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 4: I'm doing something that I don't have to do because

801
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 4: I've been tremendously blessed for so I'm in an amazing

802
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 4: space just in terms of what I was able to

803
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 4: do with business outside of music, my finances outside of music,

804
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 4: and having a wonderful team of people that helped me

805
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 4: create this you little universe outside of music. But when

806
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 4: you don't have to do it and you still love

807
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 4: it and you want to do it, and that buyer

808
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 4: is still burning in your soul from a passionate place. Actually,

809
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 4: it's burning even more because of the fun that you're

810
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 4: having and the joy that you're having. And I'm getting

811
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 4: more flowers now that I've ever gotten in my career.

812
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 4: You know, all of these awards and accolades, and selling

813
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 4: our Carnegie Hall with the incredible gentleman from Earn Your

814
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 4: Leisure and Robert F. Smith, and then you know, sending

815
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 4: that electricity through the room when we did the fiftieth

816
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 4: anniversary Grammy performance at the top for.

817
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: The year in February.

818
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: Amazing.

819
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 4: It's from from that performance all the way down. This

820
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 4: entire twenty twenty three has been magical for me. You

821
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, just coming off the tour with

822
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 4: fifty and that tour was incredible. Google Campaigns, Google Chrome

823
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 4: Campaigns thought to smashing all of the festivals, from something

824
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 4: in the Water to Strength of a Woman with memory,

825
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 4: Lovers and Friends with us shoting them down in Vegas.

826
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: And you got a six pack.

827
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 3: Six pack is back talk, that talk, queen. We're gonna

828
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: women gonna want to lick on these.

829
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: Fact though it's amazing.

830
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 4: It's a really beautiful feeling to feel good, to look good,

831
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 4: to still be able to sound good, to be able

832
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 4: to walk in your purpose. Give artists that's younger, the

833
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 4: answers mentor got them those that's willing to embrace and

834
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 4: pull up. And I'm fortunate enough to have always race,

835
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 4: so whenever they see me they want to pull up.

836
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 4: Whenever I see them, I want to pull up.

837
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: People be so excited when this busted, They're like, oh,

838
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: I got to get a picture. Where buster do you

839
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 2: think out of anybody because as an iconic artist, but

840
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: you're just very well loved.

841
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: Thank you, And even with the people who work with you.

842
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: I feel like from the beginning of your career, I

843
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: haven't heard a story of busted rhymes falling out with

844
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: this person, you know, seeing you even make the announcement

845
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: about the album, and seeing like Pharrell, Timberland Swiss, who

846
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: else is gonna pull all of those people together?

847
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: Thank you? Quinn.

848
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 4: Yes, it's beautiful. It's sometimes it's like just dream come

849
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 4: true on unfathomable levels type shit going on. Definitely the

850
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 4: blessings that's being bestowed in an abundance from the most high.

851
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 4: I ain't never gonna sit here and try to dance

852
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 4: around that. It ain't a man thing. What's happening. Yeah,

853
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 4: obviously you you conduct yourself in a manner where you

854
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 4: are a giver of love and respect, and I'm super

855
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 4: consistent with that. Even if there's an issue, I'm gonna

856
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 4: address you with it. I'm not getting on the record

857
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 4: to talk to nobody on on social media about something

858
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 4: that I know I could reach out to you directly about,

859
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 4: which allows us to maintain the integrity and the respect

860
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 4: we got for each other, even if we ain't seeing

861
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 4: an out of eye any situation, because there's no disrespect

862
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 4: publicly that you now got to fix publicly, and you

863
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 4: know the way I was raised. If you do have

864
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 4: the opportunity to reach me, which I'm super accessible, unless

865
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 4: you're giving me an energy that makes me feel like

866
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 4: you're not welcome in my space, there's no reason why

867
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 4: you shouldn't be able to find a way to get

868
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 4: in touch with me.

869
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: All right.

870
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: Well, on that note, you know, Benzino has some things

871
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: to say about Coila Ray being in the video. He

872
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: didn't like how she was dressed and he felt like

873
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: you should have reached out ahead of time, and so

874
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 2: what do you think about that?

875
00:44:54,360 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 4: My thing, first and foremost is Benzeno has my number.

876
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 4: He knows how to reach me. You ain't got to

877
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 4: address me about nothing on on social media because you

878
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 4: got him my phone number, number one, number two. I've

879
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 4: never had to address him about a problem. And there's

880
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 4: been plenty of different issues that we've actually went through

881
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 4: that led to actual violence with him and Dave Mays

882
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 4: and situations that transpired that we was able to resolve

883
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 4: civil and respectfully. Because the beef wasn't even with Benzeno.

884
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 4: But obviously he got a ride with who he moving with,

885
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 4: and we ride him with who we moving with. But

886
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 4: the point that I'm trying to make is, up until

887
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 4: probably right now, this is not public information. I'm not

888
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 4: saying it's to promote the issue. I'm saying this is

889
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 4: to promote how the code of ethics was upheld in

890
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 4: how we dealt with issues we resolved at as men

891
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 4: and face to face. We wasn't on social media, we

892
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 4: didn't talk on a radio, and we all had records out.

893
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 4: You know, made Men was putting out records. You know,

894
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 4: he was co owner of Source magazine. But for me,

895
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 4: the reason why I I've also felt like it was

896
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 4: good to deal with things in that way, not only

897
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 4: because I was raised that way, but you know, if

898
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 4: we're really going to live by the proper code of

899
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 4: ethics that we was raised on, then while you're incriminating

900
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 4: yourself talking about any conflict that you got with anybody

901
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 4: on a social media platform or on the record anywhere,

902
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 4: talk to the person that's the main thing and the

903
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 4: grown man thing to do. And lastly, actually appreciate a

904
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 4: lot of things that Benzino might have done in the past.

905
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 4: I think a lot of the times, even though we

906
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 4: don't always agree agree with each other, I think Benzino

907
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 4: did a lot of good for a lot of artists

908
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 4: in the past. You know, that Source magazine was like

909
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 4: a bible you feel me, and there was a lot

910
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 4: of people that wanted to get on that cover. There

911
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 4: was a lot of people that felt like they had

912
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 4: a problem with the way they MIC's was being rated

913
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 4: on the album.

914
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: Definitely, there was a lot.

915
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 4: Of people that felt like they wanted to perform at

916
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 4: the Source of War that didn't get a shot. You know,

917
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 4: Benzeno made sure that I hosted the Source of Wars

918
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 4: like two three times in a row. You know, I

919
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 4: got my covers, I got my great MIC ratings. If

920
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 4: there was something that was done and I ain't, like

921
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 4: if I had a disagreement with Dave Mays, you know,

922
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 4: Benzino would come in there and mediate that. So I

923
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 4: can't sit here and say Benzino didn't do right by

924
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 4: a lot of artists. So for me, you know, I

925
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 4: recently checked on him before he voiced his opinion, and

926
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 4: he hit me back and was congratulating me in what

927
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 4: I was doing with COI because I don't have nothing

928
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 4: to gain other than to see the people and their

929
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 4: kids that I know.

930
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: Right, you didn't think it was anything harmful because I mean,

931
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: you call her cysts in the you know, yes, and

932
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: it's a video.

933
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm not ever gonna copper minds of respect, not

934
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 4: only me and coy Age difference is not That's not.

935
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 3: What I do it.

936
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 1: It was more of a protective I'm a big brother.

937
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 4: I'm protecting my sister. She's a superstar. She's in the

938
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 4: industry as a woman where she's dealing with a lot anyway,

939
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 4: and she's somebody that I got a history with Benzino,

940
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 4: a pretty good history with father. So I just feel

941
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 4: honored to not only hold his daughter down and hold

942
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 4: him down when I can as a brother and as

943
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 4: a friend and as a resource. But I feel like

944
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 4: she earned that love and respect for me because I

945
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 4: am a fan of Coiler Ray. Coiler Ray is brilliant

946
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 4: to me. Coil Ray is a superstar to me. Coiler

947
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 4: Ray is a tourist like me. I understand how she

948
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 4: deals with things, and I'm a fan of it because

949
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 4: she's also a great listener and she's a great communicator.

950
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 4: And you know, if you felt like she was dressing inappropriate.

951
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 4: The two things I'm not gonna do is try to

952
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 4: control people. I ain't gonna tell you how you should

953
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 4: do things. I'll give you my opinion, but I ain't

954
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 4: gonna tell you how you should dress. You're a young woman,

955
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 4: now you ain't you taking care of yourself. You're a superstar.

956
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 4: She's selling multi platinum records, so I gotta respect her space.

957
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 4: I'm big bro, I'm not dad. Dad and daughter communicate

958
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 4: directly about whatever they feel needs to be made as decisions.

959
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna play my position, and I'm gonna be

960
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 4: a support system and I'm gonna be a resource, and

961
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna overstep my boundary. I got daughters, so

962
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna move accordingly to how I'm gonna move with

963
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 4: my own daughters. And you know, again, I don't judge

964
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 4: what or how people feel about things. I may not

965
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 4: agree with how they go about things. But again, the

966
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 4: one thing that I feel could have been handled differently.

967
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: Is reach out.

968
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 3: Reach out to me right we speak.

969
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 2: You have my information factor Moon though, Quinn right, one

970
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: thing I saw you trending for was the burner boy collaboration.

971
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 3: Oh thank you.

972
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: Listen.

973
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 2: First of all, you know, like I'm from Brooklyn, no question,

974
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 2: I'm always.

975
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 3: Love talking about son.

976
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 2: So I'm always love when you do anything that sounds

977
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: like that. And I feel like just even the way

978
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 2: that you're able to cross genre into like a do

979
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: your pats Wi you Quinn.

980
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: You know.

981
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: And so I see all the Burner Boy fans are

982
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: going crazy, But you said that being in the studio

983
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: where Berna Boy was one of the most incredible experiences.

984
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 3: That's the fact. That's a fact.

985
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 4: Let me just say this, the way the moment happened,

986
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 4: I got to see burn and move. I respect when

987
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 4: you understand and you're in tune with the feeling in

988
00:50:55,560 --> 00:51:00,959
Speaker 4: the moment. I'm excited when a beat make me feel

989
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 4: like I want to get to it right now. Sometimes

990
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 4: I come up with the magic right there. Sometimes I don't.

991
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 4: It's my first impression. You get to make a first impression.

992
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 4: One time I did the cameo on the video with

993
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 4: Bernard that he blessed me to be a part of

994
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 4: with the Big Seven, and Bennie Boom was directing that.

995
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 4: Me and Bennie Boom had just finished working on a

996
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 4: video in Miami for the Blockbuster album Bennie comes Back

997
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 4: to New York and I was still in Miami. But

998
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 4: the day that I was getting back, he was shooting

999
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 4: the video. So when I landed, I hit him about

1000
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 4: the video that we did in Miami, and I was like,

1001
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 4: what you doing And he was like, I'm shooting a

1002
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 4: video right now downtown Manhattan.

1003
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 3: And we at this peacher shop. We're doing a scene

1004
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 3: right now. Great. The concept of the video is this.

1005
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 4: And he went in front of Biggie Crib and he

1006
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 4: pulled up on Riza and it's like, y'all Era is

1007
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 4: present in this video. So I was like, all right,

1008
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 4: he said, pull up, come get in this shot. So

1009
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 4: I go over there. I do the shop with me

1010
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 4: in a pizza shop. We having a great time, laughing, joking,

1011
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 4: we vibing, and this video is done and I'm going

1012
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 4: to the studio. So I asked Bernham what you're dealing

1013
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 4: with and he was like, he ain't doing nothing. I said,

1014
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 4: come to the studio. So he's like, I meet you

1015
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 4: over there.

1016
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 3: Cool.

1017
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 4: He meets me there, give him the information. We're getting

1018
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 4: the studio. We just vibing and playing music. He got

1019
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 4: a bunch of joints for like four or five features

1020
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 4: collapsed remixes. One of them was Taliban remix with Byron

1021
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 4: Messia before it came out. So I heard how he

1022
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 4: bodied that and I was like, this is a disrespect

1023
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 4: what you did on this record because he just sledge

1024
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 4: hammed it. Then he played me two three other and

1025
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 4: all of them was with Caribbean artists dance soul artists.

1026
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 4: So I'm saying to myself, we let Berna had some

1027
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 4: of this blockbustyle.

1028
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:01,479
Speaker 1: This is the perfect time.

1029
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 4: Let you hear some of this block bust out. So

1030
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 4: I press play. I'm like, one song, we buging, two songs,

1031
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 4: turning up more. Third song is the Pharrell joint robo chata.

1032
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 4: We spas it over that, and so he wanted to

1033
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 4: keep hearing joints, so I played about two three more

1034
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 4: after that. Then he was like, yo, you got the

1035
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 4: session here for that robo shot and I was like absolutely.

1036
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 4: So I had a complete song already.

1037
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: Done to it, so.

1038
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 4: I removed the second verse and he immediately was like,

1039
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna deal with this right now. I'm like, all right,

1040
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 4: I'm thinking it's gonna take some time. I step out

1041
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 4: the room, I go to the bathroom, I come back,

1042
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 4: the doors locked.

1043
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 3: I can't get back in my own room.

1044
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 4: So I said, I ain't gonna disturb him, because, for

1045
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 4: whatever reason, my cameraman was going back and forth, and

1046
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 4: I don't think he wanted the camera man in there

1047
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 4: with the camera in his face while he was recording.

1048
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 4: It wasn't an issue about me coming in there. But

1049
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 4: I didn't want to disturb him because I'm hearing the

1050
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 4: zone through the door, and I'm like, this is sounding stupid,

1051
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 4: and I don't want to interrupt. How brilliant this is

1052
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 4: sounding whatever zone. He let him stay in it probably

1053
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 4: like a good thirty minutes past. Door unlocked. He sent

1054
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 4: somebody to look for me so I could come in

1055
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 4: there and hit the verse. I get in there and

1056
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 4: hear the verse and he goes, Yo, this is you know,

1057
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 4: this is my this's my first take at it.

1058
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: Don't judge me.

1059
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 4: And he started laughing. So I'm laughing too, and I'm like, nah, nah,

1060
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna judge you. But I'm already knowing because

1061
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 4: I heard what I heard through the door, Violet. When

1062
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 4: I'm at the door, like he violated the joint, but

1063
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 4: I didn't hit everything. So I'm waiting to hear everything

1064
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 4: now you know, the ad libs, everything.

1065
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 3: Added to it. Press play.

1066
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 4: He starts off calm, and then he gets to that

1067
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 4: turn up part where he raised his voice and it's

1068
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 4: the automatic put your gun finger in and bust your

1069
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 4: gun with your legal shot like you in Brooklyn in

1070
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:19,439
Speaker 4: the dance hall for real, and we like this when

1071
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 4: that's playing, Hey, we start doing all of the We

1072
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 4: start carrying on like we we and we and we

1073
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,760
Speaker 4: in build More Ballroom or we and we in Starlight Ballroom.

1074
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 4: Like these is like legendary dance hall clubs that you

1075
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 4: would go to back during the regonomics era when crack

1076
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 4: was booming in the street.

1077
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 3: The arc y'all don't know nothing about that, y'all you

1078
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 3: know about that. That's what I'm talking about. That's what

1079
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 3: I'm talking about.

1080
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 4: Like Burning Boy, Burning Boy sounded like he was in

1081
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 4: that zone all the way on the joint. So so

1082
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 4: for me to watch how he put it together in

1083
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 4: the moment, it wasn't no overthinking. He gelled with the

1084
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 4: whole vibe of the record flawlessly. He took it to

1085
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 4: another level to me as well, and it was done

1086
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 4: super quick listen.

1087
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 2: Thank god for mount of technology because back in the day, right,

1088
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 2: you wouldn't have been able to just be like, let

1089
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 2: me just take my thing, I have it right here.

1090
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: Back in the day in the studio, you had to

1091
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 1: have like the machine.

1092
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 3: The two inches are real, go get it. You know

1093
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

1094
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 4: The dude got a line a line of the tape

1095
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 4: machine to be able to play your two inch tape.

1096
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 2: You have no idea what that has to be like.

1097
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 2: And then if you lost it, it's just gone forever.

1098
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1099
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really crazy, and it's ill because like even

1100
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 4: with you saying that, it's just bringing me back the

1101
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 4: memories where the Internet wasn't even around yet. You had

1102
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 4: the fedextu your two inch tape.

1103
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: Real, everything leaked ahead of time. There was no way.

1104
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 4: There is no way to conceal it or it. Yeah,

1105
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 4: and and and even even though those was the days

1106
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 4: and there was challenges, was real. The one thing that

1107
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 4: I do miss, the analog warmth of that two inch

1108
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 4: tape real, the way it makes you feel. If you

1109
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 4: notice there's a difference between the records that James Brown

1110
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 4: made and how they felt and the records that a

1111
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 4: Reef in the made in addition to the soulfulness that

1112
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 4: they was creating, which only could come from a feeling

1113
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 4: that you understood during that time going through that struggle

1114
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 4: they was going through. It made them sing with a

1115
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 4: different pain in their voice. But that tape it makes

1116
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 4: the music. It enhances the feeling of that That analog

1117
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 4: tape sound enhances the soulful the way it captures the

1118
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 4: soulfulness of any in every artist, that soul that's in

1119
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 4: what you're doing. That tape catch it the most incredible,

1120
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 4: more than any digital technology there.

1121
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: And it also requires you to be there.

1122
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: Like you think about Wu Tang and how they would

1123
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: record their albums every day he was there, you know,

1124
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 2: because you couldn't just email it.

1125
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send you back the vocals and you put

1126
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: it on.

1127
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: It really did require people being in the room together.

1128
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 3: That's a fact.

1129
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 4: And I think with that being said, that is a

1130
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 4: part of the magic that happened with Blockbuster Album. I

1131
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 4: was in the studio with Quavo in the studio here

1132
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 4: in New York. Shancia pulled up on me here in

1133
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 4: New York. Me and the Baby was in a studio

1134
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 4: in Santa Monica in Los Angeles together and we did

1135
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 4: every back and forth bar in one session for the

1136
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 4: whole song and one night within like four hours. You know,

1137
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 4: Chris Brown, I went to his crib when he sang

1138
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 4: on my record and watched him lay them vocals.

1139
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1140
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: That's a different type of feeling, different.

1141
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 4: Type of feeling. On God, It's no feeling like being

1142
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 4: in there, being able to vibe with each other and

1143
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 4: give each other inspiration in the moment. It's the dopest

1144
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 4: film ever.

1145
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 2: And look, I always look at you and Old Dirty

1146
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 2: Basket were on a lecture at the same time, absolutely

1147
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 2: collaborating together and being in.

1148
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: The studio together.

1149
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 3: League.

1150
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: Those have to be wild.

1151
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 4: Times, incredible times, wild times, you don't you know we

1152
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 4: didnet have had some stories that we shared with each other.

1153
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 4: You know, You've been an official part of the WO

1154
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 4: legacy during that time. When I was first getting with

1155
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 4: Old Dirty, you was with them. So we was getting

1156
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 4: with both of them, and I've known them since ninety

1157
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 4: one ninety two because I knew them again before the

1158
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 4: WU came out, I didn't know nobody outside of Jesuit

1159
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 4: Rizard and Old.

1160
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: Dirty though, right they had their group falling together.

1161
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I knew them three.

1162
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 4: And then when WU came, that's when I got to

1163
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 4: meet Ghosh and Ray and Deck and everybody else. But

1164
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 4: I knew them before Woo, and then when WU came,

1165
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 4: they came with the first album in ninety three. Leaders

1166
00:59:53,560 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 4: came in ninety one. So seeing how I've known Old

1167
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 4: Dirty before, we got with him. And he put out

1168
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 4: Return of the Thirty six Chambers in ninety five and

1169
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 4: I put out The Coming in ninety six. We literally

1170
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 4: grew together, and this shit not just his brothers and friends,

1171
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 4: but both as members of the five percent nation of

1172
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 4: the Gods and the Earth's both coming from these groups,

1173
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 4: both being Brooklyn kids and us actually growing in this

1174
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 4: together and evolving together. The stories that we've shared before

1175
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 4: we got on the record tonight, Angela yee, those was

1176
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 4: the priceless gems and the memories that we both experienced

1177
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 4: firsthand watching our genius brother. You know what I'm saying,

1178
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 4: that's our brother, Angela. Old Dirty is your bro. That's

1179
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 4: my bro. A lot of that, dude, Like, you can't

1180
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 4: tell me nothing wrong about a song.

1181
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: You remember where you when you heard what happened?

1182
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 2: Because I remember they had just did that show in

1183
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 2: Jersey that night. Dirty missed the show and then he

1184
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 2: was in the studio and then you know they were like, oh,

1185
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 2: Dirty Bassard passed away.

1186
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:12,479
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1187
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 4: I was just excuse me when I heard what happened

1188
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 4: to the God. I was just flying back into town

1189
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 4: from Los Angeles. I just got to my crib, but

1190
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 4: just dropped my bags. I was going to the studio.

1191
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 4: In the transition to the studio, I heard, refused to

1192
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 4: believe it, refused to accept it. Tried to get in

1193
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 4: touch with Rizza, couldn't get the guard on the phone.

1194
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 4: And then I think that somebody really confirmed it on

1195
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 4: the radio and told the driver to pull over for

1196
01:01:55,960 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 4: a second. I lit a cigarette. I shed a tear.

1197
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 4: I was super angry, and I tried to reach out

1198
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 4: to Isoline and salute to Isoline too. You know when

1199
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 4: I had the God on an l E two album

1200
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 4: because a son got on the last album and Isoline

1201
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 4: cleared that and rizzid he actually gifted me with those

1202
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 4: vocals on a son. It was it was strange being

1203
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 4: in the studio and having acapella vocals of him and

1204
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 4: using outtakes that the world never heard, and it sounded

1205
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 4: like he was in the room with us, because you know,

1206
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 4: in the beginning of the song would slow flow. When

1207
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 4: we did that on E. L E two, he wasn't

1208
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 4: here obviously he was going already. But when I went

1209
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 4: to go see Rizzard and La at the time, and

1210
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 4: he gave me this incredible moment of a san in

1211
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 4: the studio with these outtakes of him talking and joking

1212
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 4: when he says, bet you bone, let me love you.

1213
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 4: Y'all want to do my new rhymes and shit, man,

1214
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, I don't know them shits.

1215
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 4: It sounded like he talking to me and the student

1216
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 4: when we was in the Wuha session and he wasn't

1217
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 4: writing the rhyme for six sessions until he decided he

1218
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 4: was in the move to work after six days of

1219
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 4: not doing nothing while we trying to come up with

1220
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 4: this Wooho remix, and then he finally bodied it. It's like, damn,

1221
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 4: when I'm listening to him talkers bringing me right back

1222
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 4: to that time when I was in soundtrack studios with

1223
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 4: him trying to finish Wuhau remixing. It was emotional for

1224
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 4: me because he not rhyming, He's just talking, you know.

1225
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 4: What I'm saying when he did that, and I use

1226
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:58,919
Speaker 4: it at the top of the song so you could

1227
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 4: just hear him by himself speak, I'm like, damn, this

1228
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 4: ain't even a song moment. This is just him talking

1229
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 4: to me, and I'm feeling like I want to respond

1230
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 4: to him, but he's not here to respond like that

1231
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 4: was a really ill moment for me, And there was

1232
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 4: so many other outtakes that we obviously had to choose

1233
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 4: between which one was the right one and which one wasn't.

1234
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 4: If you sit there and you listen and you're hearing

1235
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 4: him breathe while he's in between the talking, and it's like, God, damn,

1236
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 4: this is we ain't never getting this back right. It's

1237
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 4: a terrible feeling. But I'm I'm you know, I've had

1238
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 4: my time to process that long time ago, and you know,

1239
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 4: I'm just super proud to see his son out there

1240
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 4: with the gods looking like him, putting his hair up,

1241
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 4: like him, moving like him, representing his legacy so beautifully.

1242
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 4: Because I was on that tour to see young Dirty

1243
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 4: go out there and deal with reping his father in

1244
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 4: the most incredible way.

1245
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 2: Sometimes I also feel like it's the biggest blessing to

1246
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 2: have even been able to know somebody.

1247
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 3: That's a fact.

1248
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 2: You know, there's so many people that I've never had

1249
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 2: the opportunity to meet. But when you've had the blessing

1250
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 2: to be able to have really experience people in real

1251
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 2: life and have your own like special moments and stories

1252
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 2: to share, I think that's super true.

1253
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 4: Like that's that's that's the that's the greatest blessing, you know.

1254
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 4: And when the blessings when you identify with that blessing man,

1255
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 4: and you know that that blessing is greater than man.

1256
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 4: The magic that happens in real life is being given

1257
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 4: to you from something greater than us. That's like when

1258
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 4: you when you identify with that, you've appreciate it so

1259
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 4: much greater. And I think that the fact that you

1260
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 4: identify with that age and I I try to make

1261
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 4: it very clear to people that the blessings ain't stopping.

1262
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 4: So we ain't stopping, damn man. Every single post I

1263
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 4: put on my gram every single day because I'm super

1264
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 4: appreciating my blessings in a different way. At this point

1265
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 4: of my life, knowing old Dirty was a tremendous blessing.

1266
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 4: Knowing all of my wool Brothers. A tremendous blessing. Nah,

1267
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:23,439
Speaker 4: it's a tremendous blessing. Fifty a tremendous blessing. I've had

1268
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,959
Speaker 4: my biggest experiences in the last two years just being

1269
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 4: on the road with bros that I know twenty five

1270
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 4: and thirty years, where we pull up and we work,

1271
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 4: and it's the most pleasurable experience because it ain't nobody

1272
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 4: in that young, ignorant, ego driven space no more. Ain't

1273
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 4: nobody what you need to do, Lord, that's what it is. Now,

1274
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 4: what you need me to do? How can I help?

1275
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 4: I'm a resource to you. Let me remind you, use me, brother,

1276
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 4: whatever it is. Just send me to my marching orders,

1277
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 4: and I'm pulling up front and center ready to salute.

1278
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 4: Like that's how we giving it up for each other.

1279
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 4: Nobody got no egos that need to be checked at

1280
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 4: the door, because it's already checked from years ago in

1281
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 4: our life. We ain't even bringing it nowhere with us

1282
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 4: no more. The respect everybody understands that needs to be

1283
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 4: given to each other is prioritize every single day without thought.

1284
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 4: It's just instinctually what we do because everybody done earnth

1285
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 4: they write the passes. When it comes to their respect,

1286
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 4: it's garnished what you stand on and represent as a man,

1287
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 4: the way you're supposed to be respected. Anything that falls

1288
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 4: short of that, the accountability needs to be Tom's ten

1289
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 4: because you know better. Everybody know better. Now, you know

1290
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Like it look, it looks it looks

1291
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:46,919
Speaker 4: extra boso. It's like supreme force boso. If you pull

1292
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 4: up at this stage of your life trying to act

1293
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 4: stupid with another man that's your like your brother, your

1294
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 4: a alike that you've known for thirty five, twenty five years,

1295
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 4: thirty years, like that shit, it actually sounds stupid. That's

1296
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 4: to me. I just I just love that that's where

1297
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 4: we all are at in our life at this time.

1298
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 4: And that's what it felt like being on the tours,

1299
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 4: and that's what it feels like being in the studios.

1300
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 4: That's what it feels like when we just holler at

1301
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:22,520
Speaker 4: each other just to say what's up. It's a beautiful thing. Blessings.

1302
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 4: Like you said, Queen, Well.

1303
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 2: Listen, look, I know that we could because there's so

1304
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 2: much I didn't even get to. You got to come

1305
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,560
Speaker 2: back for like a part two because I want to

1306
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 2: talk about Flip most Quade. Oh absolutely, you know because

1307
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 2: rad Digga is my girl from like back in the day.

1308
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 3: Big up, row Digga.

1309
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 4: The queen just got married last night, last night, last night.

1310
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 4: He got married yesterday from today. So if this is coming.

1311
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:44,520
Speaker 3: On tomorrow.

1312
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 4: To your big shout to Fisher birth name sweetish person

1313
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,560
Speaker 4: had no idea.

1314
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 2: But all of that we got to talk about. I mean,

1315
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 2: you got to come back. That's all it is, like period,

1316
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 2: because I feel like that it's so much. I didn't

1317
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 2: even get a chance to It's just too much.

1318
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 3: I can't.

1319
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is me and you and and this is

1320
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 4: the first time earth that me and Angela Yee is

1321
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 4: actually getting to build like this, y'all. I love a

1322
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 4: swoman and I respect this swoman, and I'm super proud

1323
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:23,759
Speaker 4: of you and your growth and your evolution. It's definitely

1324
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 4: a testament to you understanding how to be swift and

1325
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 4: changeable in order to stay remainable.

1326
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 2: Oh shit, I like that. Can we can't isolate that? Okay,

1327
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 2: we got a song, but no, honestly, for real, like,

1328
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 2: there's so much. It is really such an honor for

1329
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 2: me to have you on here when they were like

1330
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 2: it was tentative on the schedule. I was like, Laurie,

1331
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 2: please let this happen to me, But there was just

1332
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 2: so many things that I want to get into with you.

1333
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 2: So we definitely are going to do it again. But

1334
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 2: I want to congratulate you on putting out this amazing project.

1335
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,520
Speaker 2: I saw the great responses that you've gotten online.

1336
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: You have some.

1337
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 2: I mean I saw when I saw Bia, that's when

1338
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 2: the song and Beatball had already came out. So I

1339
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 2: was talking to her about that when I saw her

1340
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 2: in La and she was telling me how excited she

1341
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 2: was to just even be working with a legend like yourself,

1342
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 2: and so.

1343
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 3: Super love be it.

1344
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 4: And you know, for me, I don't think a lot

1345
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 4: of people know she put in her one hundred thousand

1346
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 4: hours before she got on. Like I remember seeing being

1347
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 4: in a studio ten years before her first single in

1348
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 4: the studio with Pharrell.

1349
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was signing for real.

1350
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, just sitting in there waiting

1351
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 4: when she could get her record recorded, and eating a

1352
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 4: hero half a Hero sandwich in the stool and in

1353
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 4: sweatsuit and all of this beautiful and sexy that she's

1354
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 4: evolved into and how she's coming to her own as

1355
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 4: this incredible artist and this incredible woman.

1356
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: And she's an international artist too.

1357
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 4: Like that's the part that I love so much. And

1358
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 4: she is comfortable displaying her comfort being on her international firm,

1359
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 4: working with it E d M dudes to working with

1360
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 4: the artists from the u KA her last Yeah, you

1361
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 4: know what, I'm like, she and be and be spanking

1362
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 4: them though, like she's spanking everybody in this in this

1363
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 4: way because she ain't scared of the diversifying. So big

1364
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 4: up to be a love my sister, Big shout to

1365
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 4: Coiler Ray, Love my sister, big shout to Quavo, Love

1366
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 4: my brother, big shout to Moray, big shout to the

1367
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 4: Landlord gigs my brothers, big shout to uh my kids.

1368
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 1: Don't forget them, you can't forget them.

1369
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 4: Chillian salute, see ride love y'all. I gotta give a

1370
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 4: super salute the young Blue and blast Blue Vandros and

1371
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 4: blast big them up, big up Chris Brown, big up

1372
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 4: shin Sia. You know what I'm saying, Am.

1373
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 3: I forgetting anybody?

1374
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 4: Kodak Black young first of all, freak thugger, big up thugger,

1375
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 4: and we're gonna definitely make sure we sending the right

1376
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 4: energy and love and light in the universe. Yeah, that's

1377
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 4: why I'm saying what I'm saying. We gotta we gotta

1378
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 4: all collectively send the right energy, the right love, and

1379
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 4: the right light and and and put the most supportive

1380
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 4: energy into the universe for Thug while he's dealing with

1381
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 4: his trial, being that it officially started today, and I'm

1382
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 4: just grateful to Thug And it's interesting, man, Thug is yo.

1383
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 4: Like two days before I had to finalize the album

1384
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 4: BEFO that the CDs could get made and the vinyl

1385
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:45,600
Speaker 4: could get made, Doug got a different verse on the

1386
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 4: joint and we had to send it back to him

1387
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 4: so you know, we could give a final approval on

1388
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 4: it and get it clear.

1389
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 3: He like, I got the word back. Now, I'm denying this.

1390
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 4: Right two days before I go we needed five weeks

1391
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 4: to make the CDs in the vinyl.

1392
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 3: I ain't got no.

1393
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 4: Running around time for nobody else to get on this

1394
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 4: record and be perfect for this record. He said, I

1395
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 4: ain't denying the record, I'm just denying this verse. I said, Yes,

1396
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 4: that's what I'm talking about. The crazy part about it

1397
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 4: is I get a call. I got a big up,

1398
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 4: g Off, and I got a big up.

1399
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 3: Uh.

1400
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 4: The engineer, I forget his name, man, I gotta remember

1401
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 4: his name. But they was so helpful and Thug gave

1402
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 4: them the green light to send me some other verses.

1403
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 4: But I had to send them the song without the

1404
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 4: verse there so they could place the other verses.

1405
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 1: Okay, Wow.

1406
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 4: He set me back like five dope options and I

1407
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 4: picked one and Doug said, na, I'm keeping that for myself.

1408
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: Got to get this. But thats amazing that he has

1409
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: that much music in the.

1410
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, incredible. His stash boxes retarded. Like Doug, He's like

1411
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 4: us though, he's just he loves the studio. He's a

1412
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 4: studio like all of us. Like we love to be

1413
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 4: in that studio cooking up even if we ain't got

1414
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 4: no project. It's therapeutic to be in a student It's

1415
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 4: a peace of mind. It's a tranquil space. But overall,

1416
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 4: you know, from the women, to the to the to

1417
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,400
Speaker 4: the to the to the to the male artists that

1418
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 4: pulled up the producers, all of the producers. My brother

1419
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 4: Swiss beats for real, Timberland, I'm super grateful to y'all

1420
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,759
Speaker 4: for not just giving me the production on the album,

1421
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 4: but executive producing and then making sure that everything else

1422
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 4: was conducive with the standard that they set with the

1423
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 4: first six records that we recorded. Because unbelievable, right, super unbelievable.

1424
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna tell you something, Angela Lee, I need

1425
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 4: to pull up again and again and again. I need

1426
01:14:56,080 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 4: to get a whole lot of credible stories that I

1427
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 4: feel need to be shared because it's not only my truth,

1428
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 4: it's my truth that I'm finally comfortable with sharing.

1429
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 2: I know that's what I was saying, right, because I

1430
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 2: could hear that on this album and even in interviews

1431
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 2: that you've been doing, and even just the honesty.

1432
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 1: Talking in men's health.

1433
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Ques, you know that story that you didn't

1434
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 2: being really honest about things like that. Sometimes that's not

1435
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 2: an easy thing to do. And I feel like we

1436
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 2: come from an era of privacy too. That's a fact,

1437
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 2: and it's different now. Yeah, but we come from that era.

1438
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,600
Speaker 2: But when you get to a space where you're really happy, uncomfortable,

1439
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 2: it makes it a lot easier.

1440
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Queen. And I've been in that space at the

1441
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 4: highest level for the last two years, and it just

1442
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 4: continues to become more and more and more amazing and brilliant,

1443
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 4: and yeah, I'm gonna just continue to share you know

1444
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:51,879
Speaker 4: what I mean, I'm gonna.

1445
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 2: Share it because people are like so inspired by all

1446
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 2: the interviews that you've been doing.

1447
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 3: Thank you, Queen.

1448
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 2: I've really been seeing all of that, like, oh my god,

1449
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 2: this bust of Rhymes interview just you know, change my

1450
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 2: whole life, my whole perspective. But that's important to be

1451
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 2: in a space where you can do that for people.

1452
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Queen, And I'm just grateful. I'm happy for the

1453
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:12,440
Speaker 4: love that the way people are receiving my truth, my vulnerability,

1454
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 4: the time that it took for me to get comfortable

1455
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 4: enough to share it, and I'm just glad that I'm

1456
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 4: able to do it on my own terms and do

1457
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 4: it when I'm really in a place where I can

1458
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 4: stand on it, good batter indifferent as far as other

1459
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 4: people might see it or view it. Obviously, the goal

1460
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 4: and the objective is to inspire people, make sure that

1461
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 4: we all can guide each other in a way that

1462
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 4: we can avoid stepping and shit piles, that we can avoid.

1463
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 2: Stepping it right listen, Cause there's been some nasty things happening.

1464
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 3: That's a fact.

1465
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 1: Quint right now and real nasty.

1466
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And people will tell you like the business is

1467
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 2: just like that, that's not true, Like every man does

1468
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 2: not act in a certain way.

1469
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 1: They'd be like, Oh, that was the error. Guys just

1470
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 1: did that.

1471
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 2: That's why you know this is all happening because it's

1472
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 2: just a different time period.

1473
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 1: But wrong is wrong no matter what that time period is.

1474
01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 4: That's a fact. But also feel like this two there's

1475
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 4: two components when it comes to that. Wrong is wrong

1476
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 4: and accountability is definitely the justice, which is the reward

1477
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 4: or penalty for one's actions or deeds that shouldn't happen,

1478
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 4: regardless of time frame. But that's same reward or penalty

1479
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 4: for one's actions or deed if that allegation ain't actual fact,

1480
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 4: it needs to be held accountable in that way.

1481
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I definitely think both ways.

1482
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 3: You know.

1483
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 2: But when we see a lot of people saying something

1484
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 2: about somebody and witnesses and all of that, you know

1485
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 2: it is because I see people saying, well, why does

1486
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 2: she not say anything? And about women in general, they'll

1487
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,600
Speaker 2: say that, you know when it happened, and it's not

1488
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 2: easy to step up and be vocal when somebody's in

1489
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 2: a position of power to be able to perhaps stop

1490
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 2: your career even who knows, even something worse where people

1491
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 2: around you are even scared to speak up at the time,

1492
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 2: and it's not even happening to them, you know.

1493
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 4: Well, like I said, like I said before, I just

1494
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 4: feel like I can't ever really speak from a place

1495
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,839
Speaker 4: where I'm not informed. We can always have our opinion

1496
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 4: and perspective. I feel like when the truth is undisputed

1497
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, to show improve is

1498
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:23,719
Speaker 4: gonna be brought to fruition. I like to stand by ends. Yeah,

1499
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:27,959
Speaker 4: on all ends the truth that's Underspit's like, for example,

1500
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 4: you do something as a man, Yeah, you need to

1501
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 4: get your head dealt with. Derek Chauvin is going through

1502
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 4: that right now. It don't matter what a courthouse said.

1503
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 4: He got to deal with something else. There's something else

1504
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 4: happening with him. He can't run from that. Yeah, twenty

1505
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 4: two years he got to sit in there and deal

1506
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 4: with that.

1507
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 3: That's that's greater than man. Now, man gonna do it.

1508
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 4: But the thing that you put in the souls of

1509
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 4: the people, it is affecting something deeper than just the

1510
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 4: man's act. You went through all types of things internally

1511
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 4: before you even go through with the act, so that

1512
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to answer to that.

1513
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 3: Yes. But it's like the young Lady as well, it

1514
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:13,520
Speaker 3: fake to kidnapping.

1515
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was wild.

1516
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 4: It's like we living in a different day, the era

1517
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:24,719
Speaker 4: we come from more it wasn't a lot of this happening.

1518
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:30,759
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that anything is good bad in the process.

1519
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:35,600
Speaker 4: I'm just saying when it comes to the truth and

1520
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 4: to show and prove that's ultimately the best, the best part.

1521
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 4: I like to just wait and look at it from

1522
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 4: that perspective too, because it's a real ill feeling when

1523
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:53,559
Speaker 4: people prematurely judge, and then if the truth comes out

1524
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 4: that that exonerates the person that you was really judging

1525
01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 4: terribly against happens, and and now this person is back

1526
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 4: in the place that they need to be in, or

1527
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 4: they got the resolution that they needed and that they wanted,

1528
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 4: and everything is in a better place. Keep the same

1529
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 4: energy when you're looking like a bozo too pre judging,

1530
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:17,759
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

1531
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 2: I just know as a woman, it's hard for women

1532
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 2: to come forward. There's so many more people who would

1533
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 2: never say anything about things that have happened to them.

1534
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 2: I agree, And so that's a difficult thing. So I

1535
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 2: just want to always make sure that people feel safe

1536
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:30,640
Speaker 2: to be able to share. Some people will want to

1537
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 2: share this story and they don't get anything out of it.

1538
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 2: It's not easy to put yourself out there because no

1539
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 2: matter what, people always think you're lying too. There's always

1540
01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 2: gonna be people who think you're lying even.

1541
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 1: When you're not.

1542
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're absolutely right.

1543
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 4: You know.

1544
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,639
Speaker 1: So either way, it's not an easy position.

1545
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 4: I got, I got daughter's queen. I'm defending them babies

1546
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 4: in the most unfathomable way.

1547
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 1: God forbid, right, God forbid, God forbid.

1548
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 4: So I'm with you on that one percent. And I'm

1549
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 4: also as a man, you know, I've had to deal

1550
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 4: with and you know us as black people a lot

1551
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 4: of the time, you know what we've just been subjected

1552
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 4: to historically, the senselessness that we've lost life behind just

1553
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 4: because of being accused of just these accusations in a

1554
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:31,640
Speaker 4: way that was so undeserving. It's the worst thing in

1555
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 4: the world to know that even when you realize that

1556
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 4: the person that destroyed this life, in the many lives

1557
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 4: of a family by falsely accusing this person that didn't

1558
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 4: even deserve and doesn't do anything or even historically have

1559
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 4: a behavior pattern that warrance.

1560
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 3: Being handled in this way, and.

1561
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 4: You take this life from his family, you take this

1562
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 4: life from the person.

1563
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 2: And there's no accountability or accountability, and there's no ever

1564
01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 2: bringing that person back.

1565
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 4: There's never even And a person that that actually doesn't

1566
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 4: get held accountable and gets.

1567
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 1: Away with it lives their whole life.

1568
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 4: They lived their life and then they get pop off

1569
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 4: like that again. And it's just we've had to deal

1570
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 4: with this historically. It's just the inception of this whole

1571
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 4: you know, government infrastructure. You know, this might be a

1572
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 4: can of worms that we open it now that we

1573
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 4: ain't got the time for, you know what I'm saying.

1574
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 4: But I definitely feel like there's a lot of this

1575
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 4: that we are at this space in life now where

1576
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,679
Speaker 4: we got to start feeling a lot more comfortable about

1577
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:35,639
Speaker 4: talking about because there's a whole lot of politics involved

1578
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 4: with trying to control what you can.

1579
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 3: Say now or can't say.

1580
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 2: And I think it's okay to say things and get

1581
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:43,640
Speaker 2: corrected on them too. I'm okay with that, and to

1582
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 2: have a difference of opinion and not agree right and

1583
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 2: I think all those things should be. Okay, I don't

1584
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 2: condone people attacking people are saying no, no, but I

1585
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 2: also like having an open mind and listening to what

1586
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 2: other people have to say.

1587
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 3: That's actually the way it should be.

1588
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 4: You know, at the end of the day, we all

1589
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 4: brilliant minds that should be able to express the brilliance

1590
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 4: of our mental capacity. And an opinion is not a decision,

1591
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 4: and an opinion is not a judgment.

1592
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 2: And a lot of it comes from our experiences. Because

1593
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 2: your experience is a man who is an artist in

1594
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,679
Speaker 2: this business, you've seen things from a different light than

1595
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 2: me as a woman who's been in this business. So

1596
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 2: I might look at something a different way that can

1597
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 2: make you be like, Okay, I can see that, and

1598
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 2: you might look at it and I'm like, all right,

1599
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 2: I understand your point.

1600
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 3: Of view, absolutely, queen.

1601
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 2: And so it's all about experiences that we have. But

1602
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 2: we're going to do this, I'm telling you, yeah.

1603
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 4: We definitely stopping. And what's so dope about this this

1604
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 4: vibe session with you today? It's like for me, it's

1605
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 4: like there's moments that just they organically dictate the growth

1606
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 4: and the evolution of a friendship. I really truly feel

1607
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 4: like there's been a growth in our friendship today.

1608
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 1: All right, well this is best arounds. My new best friend.

1609
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 3: Nah will talk. It's is dope.

1610
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 4: It's like, you know what I mean, I don't I

1611
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 4: don't want to sit around and just talk. If I

1612
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 4: ain't comfortable with you to just talk. We got things

1613
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 4: to do.

1614
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 1: I was like, how am I gonna tap drink Champs? No, i'midding.

1615
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 1: I can't do that.

1616
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 3: To the bros.

1617
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 1: But thank you and Bus. I appreciate it.

1618
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 4: Thank you, boss, Lady Angelay. Let's get to it. Let's

1619
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 4: keep it going, let's keep it growing.

1620
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 1: All right, it's way up.