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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: I'm strong and Jattie and he Armstrong and Eddy.

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Speaker 3: General Dan Kine, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,

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Speaker 3: warrant President Trump that Iron could close the straight of

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Speaker 3: Horn moves. President Trump acknowledged the risks, but told his

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Speaker 3: team that Tehran would likely capitulate before closing the street.

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Speaker 4: Oh book, yeah, I talked about I was watching MSNBC.

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Speaker 1: It's been this way since the war started, but particularly

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Speaker 1: today it annoyed me. That was Jon Stewart there from

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Speaker 1: the Daily Show last night. This this theme of this

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Speaker 1: war is a disaster. Everybody agrees it's a disaster. It's

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Speaker 1: been disaster from the beginning. And how do we get

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Speaker 1: out of this quagmire? I've even heard the people use

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Speaker 1: that term quagmire.

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Speaker 2: We two weeks in? How can you have a quagmire

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Speaker 2: two weeks in?

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Speaker 5: I remember last week we highlighted a center left person saying, hey,

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Speaker 5: with this wild partisan partisanship over the war is awful,

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Speaker 5: it's destructive.

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Speaker 2: And here's another piece.

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Speaker 5: This one happens to be in the wall Street Journal

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Speaker 5: by Mark Penn, who is an advisor to Bill Clinton,

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Speaker 5: and Andrew Stein, who's New York City over and a

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Speaker 5: shaker politician at center left guy on Iran is only

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Speaker 5: bad news fit to print. They point out that media

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Speaker 5: partisanship has been worse than ever.

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Speaker 2: They quote Trump.

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Speaker 5: We are totally destroying the terrorist regime of Iran, militarily,

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Speaker 5: economically and otherwise. Yet if you read the failing New

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Speaker 5: York Times, you would incorrectly think that we are not winning,

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Speaker 5: he wrote Friday Morning on truth social pick up Sunday's Times.

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Speaker 5: They write, and it's as if the took that as

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Speaker 5: a command rather than a criticism. War sends more tremors

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Speaker 5: through a shaken world economy, reads a headline on the

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Speaker 5: top of the front page with the speculative subhead fallout

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Speaker 5: from prolonged conflict with Iran could bring catastrophic consequences. Among

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Speaker 5: the catastrophes, the article sites in Kenya, tea growers and

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Speaker 5: traders worried their exports to Iran would rot on the dock.

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Speaker 5: The other story above the front page fold is a

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Speaker 5: critique of the Defense Secretary Hegzat's vengeful rhetoric grew from

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Speaker 5: experience in Iraq. Inside the paper are six more pages

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Speaker 5: of warheadlines, almost all relentlessly negative, and again these are

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Speaker 5: a couple of Democrats writing just traditional democrats. There are

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Speaker 5: disdainful pieces about the Secretary of State and about this

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Speaker 5: central US ally in the effort of other's US war

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Speaker 5: alliance with Israel's reshaping Mideast. But Kerrie's risk and Netanyahu

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Speaker 5: is war he always wanted. But on Trump's terms, there's

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Speaker 5: more economic glooms. Seized oil tankers are costing US tens

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Speaker 5: Then they go into some of the good things that

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Speaker 5: are happening that are getting ignored completely. Like the Times,

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Speaker 5: much of the news media seems determined to advance a

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Speaker 5: narrative that mister Trump is wrong about everything and that

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Speaker 5: the US is getting its clock cleaned by a powerful

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Speaker 5: Iranian war machine that has successfully made the transition to

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Speaker 5: new leadership. Journalists have the right and duty to report

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Speaker 5: bad news, not to fall for Pollyanna reports from the government,

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Speaker 5: but many seem to be going beyond that and rooting

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Speaker 1: To loose one hundred percent, rooting for America to lose.

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Speaker 1: That is absolutely the tone. Well, really acknowledging that we've

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Speaker 1: already lost. Now what do we do?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 5: But it's so bad rooting for America to lose against

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Speaker 5: an enemy that is the world's biggest state sponsor of terror,

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Speaker 5: that has killed thousands of unarmed protesters, that has stockpiled

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Speaker 5: thousands of ballistic missiles while seeking nuclear weapons which its

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Speaker 5: rulers promised to use against the US. And Israel largely

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Speaker 5: a center even the most basic stories analyzing Iran's losses

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Speaker 5: in the fate of their supposed leadership. Why what seems

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Speaker 5: to be driving the coverage is repertorial partisanship and the

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Speaker 5: Democrats determination to oppose this president no matter what. We'll

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Speaker 5: see again how that works out for them. And then

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Speaker 5: the Free Beacon doing a wonderful job talking about The

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Speaker 5: New York Times drawing bipartisan condemnation for its coverage of

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Speaker 5: the attack on the synagogue in Michigan last week that

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Speaker 5: critics faulted for seeming to justify the attack. Here was

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Speaker 5: the headline of the print Times news article on Saturday,

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Speaker 5: synagogue attacker lost family members in Lebanon airstrike. In print,

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Speaker 5: the Time fails to mention at all that according to

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Speaker 5: the Israeli government, at least one of the family members

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Speaker 1: Online two brothers that were Hesbola commanders, So you had

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Speaker 1: for innocent family members killed by Israel. The other take

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Speaker 1: would be more like, would be murderer in Michigan was

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Speaker 1: a terrorist fanatic like his brother in Lebanon. Yeah, comes

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Speaker 5: The State Department Special Envoy to monitor and combat anti

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Speaker 5: Semitism during the Biden administration, Ambassador Deborah Lipstadt wrote that

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Speaker 5: the Times headline quote suggests that because he lost family

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Speaker 5: members in Lebanon, trying to kill Jewish children is sort

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Speaker 5: of okay. Times finally reported that brother of terrorists was

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Speaker 2: Finally days later. Yeah, that's a problem. That is a

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Speaker 5: It really is there a bunch more examples, but you

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Speaker 5: get the idea. I've said, you know many times and

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Speaker 5: we'll continue too. That are allowing the far far left

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Speaker 5: to infiltrate our teachers, colleges, then our elementary through grade

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Speaker 5: twelve schools, and our universities is the biggest problem we

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Speaker 5: have in America. And I believe that because we are

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Speaker 5: going to see perverse beliefs and self hatred in all

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Speaker 5: sorts of aspects of our society now for years and

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Speaker 5: years to come. I mean utterly unsupportable, bizarre, one sided

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Speaker 5: beliefs planted by the neo Marxists. I want to tear

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Speaker 5: down Western civilization and we let them take over our schools.

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Speaker 5: Good lord, I want to punch myself in the face

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Speaker 5: right now to bring it.

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Speaker 1: Down to the base level again, as we have several times.

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Speaker 1: They've been trying to get a nuclear weapon for years

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Speaker 1: and years. It wasn't just Trump who said they're not

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Speaker 1: We've been saying it for a long time now. I

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Speaker 1: remember many presidents saying that about North Curry in North Korea.

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Speaker 1: Then they got one because we didn't actually do anything

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Speaker 1: if you have Kamala Harris or something. They'd keep saying,

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Speaker 1: Trump just said he's sitting in the Oval Office with

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Speaker 1: and talking about the war, taking questions about the war.

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Speaker 1: He just said that if Iran had ever successfully gotten

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Speaker 1: a nuke, they would have used it within twenty four hours.

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Speaker 2: I believe it. Interesting question.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they would have or not, if

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Speaker 2: But it's not impossible.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they have been stating since their inception that

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Speaker 1: their biggest goal on planet Earth, and it's worth dying for,

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Speaker 1: not impossible that they would have used it within twenty fours.

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Speaker 1: Finally we got the weapon. We can destroy the entire

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Speaker 1: state Israel. And everybody around it.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it. That's not a crazy thought.

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Speaker 5: Because remember, they're actual religious fanatics.

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Speaker 2: They actually believe this stuff.

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Speaker 5: It's not a pose like all of our politicians who

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Speaker 5: have actual, bone deep beliefs.

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Speaker 1: For whatever is you know, mainstream and left leaning America

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Speaker 5: That's because these the kids, the young people in particular,

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Speaker 5: have been brought up to believe what you just stated

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Speaker 2: If you at least try.

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Speaker 5: On for size agreeing with me that this is all

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Speaker 5: from the neo Marxist philosophical schools of the twentieth century

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Speaker 5: of blah blah blah, you know, Michelle Fucou and then

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Speaker 5: good because there's only one explanation for that. You've been

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Speaker 5: trained to despise Western civilization. That's the only explanation for

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Speaker 5: thinking the Baptists down the street who are against abortion

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Speaker 1: It's pretty odd. That's a good question for history that

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Speaker 1: we'll never know, thank God. Would they have actually used

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Speaker 5: To, so what did you think was going to happen?

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Speaker 2: Let's do it. Let's kill every Jew in Israel like

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Speaker 1: interesting one. Any thoughts on that text? Line four nine

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like a kid again?

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Speaker 6: You feel like the kid laying out your jersey before

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Speaker 6: It's it's just been a special moment. And I think

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Speaker 6: seeing every single guy in this room who's been the

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Speaker 6: It didn't matter if there's MVPs CY Young Winners, All Stars.

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Speaker 6: Each guy checked their ego out the door and stepped

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Speaker 1: That's Aaron Judge, one of the greatest baseball players who's

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Speaker 1: the idea that we've convinced ourselves that to be good citizens,

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Speaker 1: That's the thing we should all think about. After we

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm speaking for myself, and I hope you

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Speaker 1: can't get enough of monitoring the situation as in quotes,

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Speaker 1: because that's the question they actually asked. In a twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three survey of American adults, about a third said

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Speaker 1: they follow national politics very closely, while sixty two percent

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Speaker 1: of Americans consume news about politics and government often or

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Speaker 1: extremely often, which is thirty percent percentage points above the

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Speaker 1: next highest area of news interest.

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Speaker 2: Wow, why so much about politics? I remember when nobody

447
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Speaker 2: ever talked about it.

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Speaker 1: Fine, you might say, it's natural and healthy to form

449
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Speaker 1: strong opinions about the president or his opponents and talk

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Speaker 1: about them with friends, to watch political shows or listen

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Speaker 1: to politics podcasts, to read or watch political punditary several

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Speaker 1: times a day. This surely is evidence of a good

453
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Speaker 1: informed citizenship. Right actually know as the political scientist I

454
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Speaker 1: don't know how to pronounce his name last name, Hirsch

455
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Speaker 1: has argued persuasively, in the age of modern communications, the

456
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Speaker 1: obsessive consumption of political news and commentary has for millions

457
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Speaker 1: of people, replaced the kind of participation that characterizes healthy

458
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Speaker 1: democratic activity. Freaking out to your Facebook followers about whatever

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump said yesterday is not what Democracy and America

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Speaker 1: author Alexis Detokeville had in mind when he wrote, a

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Speaker 1: nation may establish a system of free government, but without

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Speaker 1: the spirit of municipal institutions, it cannot have the spirit

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Speaker 1: of liberty. Participating in municipal municipal institutions is being involved

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Speaker 1: in all kinds of different building blocks of democracy. It's

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Speaker 1: not getting outraged over Facebook posts or tweeting angrily at

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Speaker 1: people or retweeting angry tweets.

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Speaker 2: Sure yeah and hersh.

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Speaker 1: The person who studied this called this sort of spectatorship

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Speaker 1: a form of hobbyism, digestion of politics for emotional entertainment,

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Speaker 1: as opposed to actually being engaged in the process.

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Speaker 2: That is so clearly true, And.

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Speaker 5: It's a perpetual motion machine because the politicians have figured

473
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Speaker 5: out that's where the money is, right, so stoking that

474
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Speaker 5: you're not gonna get a zillion dollars worth of small

475
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Speaker 5: contributions online because you've got some really smart legislation of brewing.

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Speaker 5: That's gonna help the infrastructure place. I laughed as I

477
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Speaker 5: was suggesting it. And that's the important stuff.

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Speaker 2: What's that phrase for the hashtag activism?

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Speaker 1: So that's the first time we noticed it and mocked

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Speaker 1: it is like people who have all the hashtag you know,

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Speaker 1: bring the girls home or hashtag PrePost or whatever, like

482
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Speaker 1: you've done something. So but we're all doing that to

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Speaker 1: a certain well not all of us, but a lot

484
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Speaker 1: of us are doing that to a certain extent. That

485
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Speaker 1: taking an opinions than getting worked up about it feels

486
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Speaker 1: like you're participating in the democracy while while you're not

487
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Speaker 1: attending a city council meeting or you know, voting on

488
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Speaker 1: a lot of different races you're not paying attention to

489
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Speaker 1: or whatever the heck, not actually participating in the democracy.

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Speaker 1: You're just getting emotionally worked up about opinions. How do

491
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Speaker 1: we break out of that? It's you know, it's similar

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Speaker 1: to a whole bunch of the other stuff, the online stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's all the same. It's the same thing as looking

494
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Speaker 1: at porn kind of feels like you have a sex life.

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Speaker 5: You don't, right, It is a nutrition free substitute for

496
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Speaker 5: the real thing.

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Speaker 2: Virtually everything online.

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Speaker 1: Is that, and it extends to sex, politics, all kinds

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Speaker 1: of different things. Yeah, it's all the same problem. You

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Speaker 1: feel like you're have a relationship with a chess bot,

501
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Speaker 1: or because you have lots of friends that you comment

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Speaker 1: on every day on your Twitter feed, you've never actually

503
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Speaker 1: met them, and it's a very surface level relationship you

504
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Speaker 1: retweet each other or whatever.

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Speaker 2: And then the sex thing with porn.

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Speaker 1: Especially for you guys, just all this stuff that is

507
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Speaker 1: completely made up. And so we do the same thing

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Speaker 1: with politics. We feel I'm very political. I'm very political.

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Speaker 1: I read all of the angry tweets and I retweet

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Speaker 1: the most of the funniest ones.

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Speaker 2: I'm very involved in politics a lot of time, meaning

512
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Speaker 2: game is top level.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't lots of people say they're very involved in politics

514
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Speaker 1: because they participate in that sort of activity when you're

515
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Speaker 1: not actually involved in politics at all.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think this may ultimately be a discouraging segment,

517
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Speaker 5: and I hate that. But the other problem is that

518
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Speaker 5: the government has gotten so vast, it's involved in so

519
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 5: many aspects of life that people, you know, you're wrong

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Speaker 5: to think the government is here to solve all your problems.

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Speaker 5: But I get why people think that, and so everything

522
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Speaker 5: you do, everywhere you go, you think the government ought

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Speaker 5: I'm not not you, you my good friends, but a

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Speaker 5: lot of people think the and ought to be involved

525
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Speaker 5: in like everything you do all the time, and so

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Speaker 5: it's natural to have that weird, incredibly shallow, you know,

527
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Speaker 5: the exchange of quote unquote ideas like we're talking about.

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Speaker 5: It's just it's ever present but never significant. Yeah, let

529
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Speaker 5: me hit you with this paragraph because I thought it

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Speaker 5: was pretty darn interesting. If you're doing all this stuff

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Speaker 5: we are talking about, particularly around politics, you are probably

532
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Speaker 5: trapped in an abusive parasocial relationship with politicians and political media.

533
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Speaker 5: You're being psychologically manipulated with emotional ups and downs in

534
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Speaker 5: a way that makes you easier to control for partisan

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Speaker 5: or economic reasons, and this is probably also harming your

536
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Speaker 5: mental health. Almost certainly. I think we need to identify,

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Speaker 5: for instance, rage baiting. If there is some gender bending

538
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Speaker 5: teacher who trying to pervert the minds of six year olds,

539
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Speaker 5: I want to know about that. But how often do

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Speaker 5: I want to know about it? How often do I need.

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Speaker 2: To know about it?

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00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 5: I already know it, So how often do I need

543
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Speaker 5: to click on that?

544
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Speaker 2: And watch that or retweet it or what have you.

545
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Speaker 5: And the answer is not never, because you know, for instance,

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Speaker 5: to me, the infiltration of our education system is the

547
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Speaker 5: biggest problem we solve, or that we face rather, but

548
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Speaker 5: you don't need to wallow in it.

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Speaker 1: Or maybe are you doing anything else? So if all

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Speaker 1: I'm doing is clicking on them and getting more upset,

551
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Speaker 1: but I still have never attended a school board meeting

552
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Speaker 1: or done the research to look into who's running and

553
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Speaker 1: voted or anything like that. But I click on all

554
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Speaker 1: the stories about how bad the schools are and get

555
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Speaker 1: really mad.

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Speaker 5: Right, I don't know how we break out empty calories

557
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 5: substituting for the real thing describes everything online?

558
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: Ye, it's Facebook, friends looking at porn or this and

559
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: this is this one is probably well, it's worse for

560
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Speaker 1: the country. You can't run a democracy that way. For

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Speaker 1: your own like personal happiness, having not real relationships is

562
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: not pretty good either. Yeah, the enough to get by

563
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Speaker 1: thing though, the way human beings are built, it's it's

564
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Speaker 1: just it's it's the empty calories you always talk about,

565
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Speaker 1: But it's enough nutrition.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna die, so I feel like you're dying inside.

567
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Speaker 2: I'm joking I knew you were going to add and

568
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Speaker 2: I'm Joe Getty to that saw it coming, did you?

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Speaker 7: Eh?

570
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: Well yes, but you're dying inside. I'm just I'm jo

571
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Speaker 2: getting all right, let's end on the line.

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Speaker 1: We all net, Let's all commit to breaking out of this.

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Speaker 5: All right, I'm in, Are you in? We're in Hurry,

574
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Speaker 5: We're gonna end or when we come back, when we

575
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Speaker 5: come back.

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Speaker 2: You brought us down so bad. I don't know if

577
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: there's any getting up. You can't handle the truth. You're

578
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: of laye.

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Speaker 1: We will finish strong next. So I kept reading about

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Speaker 1: the psychology about people getting unhappy with the news floor

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Speaker 1: or whatever it can be. With a relationship. It could

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Speaker 1: be you've got a up and down spouse that sometimes

583
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Speaker 1: are in a great mood, sometimes they're in a horrible mood,

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Speaker 1: and you don't which to predict or whatever, or boss

585
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: or whatever. And I didn't know this, but it makes sense, uh,

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Speaker 1: people that have frequent ups and downs, especially for people

587
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Speaker 1: prone to depression. It disregulates your amygdalah uh oh, part

588
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Speaker 1: of your brains system that regulates emotional processing in a

589
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: way that bias is a person to So if you

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Speaker 1: have lots of ups and downs, or you engage in

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Speaker 1: lots of ups and downs like you could by taking

592
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Speaker 1: in news.

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Speaker 2: It causes you.

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Speaker 1: To overreact to negative stimuli and underreact to positive. That's

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Speaker 1: just the way we're built for some reason. So if

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00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: we undergo a lot of ups and downs, we start

597
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: overreacting to the negative and underreacting to the positive, which

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00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: under the defensive crouch I guess, which obviously exacerbates the situation.

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Speaker 1: So if you have any of this in your life,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, dealing with a spouse or a kid

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Speaker 1: or a boss. I'm trying to come up with examples.

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Speaker 1: But you start well, yeah, you start making the bad

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Speaker 1: stuff worse and the good stuff worse. You make everything worse.

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Speaker 1: That's the way our brains are made. Why is that,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We suck. That's fascinating. A well regulated it's split it

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Speaker 2: out of my head.

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Speaker 5: Unda, A well regulated amygdala being necessary to the security

609
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Speaker 5: of a free brain. The right of the people to

610
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Speaker 5: keep and bear thoughts shall not be infringed. That's a

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Speaker 5: good one right there, Thank you, it would have been good.

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Speaker 4: Strong.

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00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 2: I'm strong, You're ready and.

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Speaker 6: Strong.

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Speaker 2: Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe getty.

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Speaker 5: Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew

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Speaker 5: to wrap up things for the day. Wouldn't that be delightful.

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Speaker 5: Let's begin with Michael Angelo or technical director. Michael final thought.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm afraid that Jack will come and run

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Speaker 3: in and grab me, but I'm gonna say it anyway.

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Speaker 6: Jack.

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Speaker 2: It's Saint Patrick's. Dave McDonald's has shamrock shakes. Those are

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Speaker 2: really really good. They are My son wants one before

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Speaker 2: they go away.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I swore off dessert so I can't have one

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Speaker 5: mint delicious.

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Speaker 7: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Katie Green, who has a wacky i Iro issue seemed

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Speaker 5: T shirt on your final thought.

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Speaker 1: I am very much looking forward to the corned beef

631
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Speaker 1: sandwich in my future. Cool put a little horse radish

632
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Speaker 1: on it.

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Speaker 5: Oh hell yeah, that's right Jack.

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Speaker 1: A final thought for us man, I'm gonna look out

635
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: for those up and down situations in my life.

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Speaker 2: See if I've got any of those. I have to

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Speaker 2: think that through.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that it exacerbates the negative and brings

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Speaker 1: down the positive.

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Speaker 2: Nobody wants that.

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Speaker 5: My final thought is given the history of the Irish

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00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,959
Speaker 5: people celebrating by getting hammered, drunk and being irresponsible.

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Speaker 2: It is probably not.

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00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 5: A bad way to celebrate Irish heritage, is there's been

645
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Speaker 5: quite the history of alcoholism among my people.

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Speaker 2: Is like anybody though, is that a cultural thing or

647
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Speaker 2: a genetic thing? Do you know? I don't know.

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00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 5: It probably had a lot to do with how much

649
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Speaker 5: misery there wasn't Ireland for quite a long time.

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Speaker 2: Could be that was their only comfort. I think that's

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Speaker 2: the reason for the Russian drinking.

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Speaker 1: Yes, great Armstrong in Geeddy wrapping up another grueling four

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Speaker 1: hour workday.

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Speaker 5: So many people thanks a little time go to armstrong

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Speaker 5: in gedddy dot com. Many pleasures who ate you there,

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Speaker 5: including the hot links, Katie's Corner, the ang Swag store,

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Speaker 5: pickups from Swag.

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Speaker 2: I will be peeing green by the end of the war. Okay,

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Speaker 2: she tomorrow gotten buss America. I'm strong and getty.

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Speaker 5: I don't care about the oscars. I mean, I truly don't.

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Speaker 5: And I don't have a lot of time to watch movies.

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Speaker 5: The only way I'm gonna watch a movie is if

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Speaker 5: they can combine the Bob Dylan movie Tim Shelamy's Bob

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Speaker 5: Dylan movie with the Ping Pong, so it's Bob Dylan

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Speaker 5: playing Ping Pong.

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Speaker 2: I won't watch it is eleven eight or eight eleven,

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Speaker 2: I can never remember.

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Speaker 6: Get entire show on the podcast Armstrong and Giddy on

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Speaker 6: demand