1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: It's just one of those weeks where you just kind 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: of wrap a picture of Metcalf and a pressent thing 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: and handed to uh, to Bradbury and say your problem. Um. 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: I wish things could be that simple. But no, UM, 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: I mean aside from uh Metcalf, I mean they got 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: so many different weapons. I mean the backs, you know, 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: I mean Hide and Carson, these guys are you know, 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: they're they're scary. The quarterback obviously, I've you know, he's 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: a scary player, a good player. I've known him since 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: he was a you know, young kid. His brother played 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: for us at Richmond when I was there. But and 12 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: then you know, they got so many weapons, you know, 13 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 1: from the receivers spots, you know eight three six, team fourteen, 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: they're all making plays. So you know we're gonna try 15 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: to figure it out, do what we could do, see 16 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: what we could do to try to limit their effectiveness. 17 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: But you know we're gonna need more than just James. 18 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna the everybody all hands on deck for this 19 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: one because they got a lot. They got a lot 20 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: of weapons out there. Thank you, Ak Pat with with 21 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: Russell's deep balls, I mean, it seems like it's unique 22 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: with how much air he puts under them. And you know, 23 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: why is he so effective throwing those well, I mean, 24 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure you could probably dive into the physics of it, 25 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: but I don't know. But I assume it gives those 26 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: guys with the trajectory. You know, it's similar to Aaron 27 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: when Aaron throws those deep balls and everybody's like wow. 28 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: You know Aaron Rodgers when everybody makes those catches on 29 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: those hail Mary's. But um, I assume it's from years 30 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: of practice. Timing with the receivers give him a chance 31 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: to get underneath the ball. They're all pretty fast, so 32 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: he has the arm strength to get it down the field. 33 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: The old line is doing a good job of blocking 34 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: for him and give him time to get it out there. 35 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: But I assume something to do with the trajectory helps 36 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: out with it. But I'm not smart enough to figure 37 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: that out. Tom pat what's your philosophy on using a 38 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: spy on a quarterback like Russell and and maybe even 39 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: next week on another mobile quarterback And what do you 40 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: look for in the qualities of a player that you 41 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: buy using that role. I mean, you know, each game 42 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: plan is so different. I mean, I can tell you 43 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: stories of using a spy before and the spidering tackle 44 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: the quarterback, and you know the spy wasn't good enough 45 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: to get the quarterback. So I mean, like you know, 46 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: I mean, so you try to you try to figure 47 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: out what the guys the best guys to tackle them. 48 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: They obviously gotta be able to tackle, they gotta be 49 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: able to run, but you know, you alternate between the two. 50 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: You try to teach them discipline pass rush, you know, 51 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: if you're rushing four or five, just trying to fill 52 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: up the pass rush lanes. And then sometimes you might 53 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: get specific and have a particular person spy on them, 54 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: and what you're looking for. You're looking for somebody that 55 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: can tackle, someone that has the speed to stay with them. 56 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: And they have to have some savvatness about them too, 57 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: because you know, some sometimes when you talk to a 58 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: player about what a spy is, they just sit back there, 59 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: and now you just gave the quarterback more space. The 60 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: lion scrimmage changes, you know what I mean, So, like 61 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: just in terms of just talking football as a line 62 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: scrimmage changes, like certain people have philosophy that spy or 63 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 1: that mirror player has to close the line of scrimmage. 64 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: Some people stay back there and you know, but to me, 65 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's you gotta pick. You gotta pick your poison. 66 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: Do you want to have more space so you can 67 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: have vision or do you want to close so he 68 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: could get to them quicker when it declares? So those 69 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: are some of the things you gotta look at when 70 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: you're going through it. That hey bad um Leonard Williams 71 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: it right now is on is on track to have 72 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: a career high in sacks. I'm just wondering, like, what 73 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: what's it been like for you coaching Leonner in general? 74 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: And kind of where do you see it? Where have 75 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: you seen to make the most strides since you first 76 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: got here? Well, I think you know, just haven't watched 77 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: him from afar. I mean the biggest thing for me 78 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: anytime you're dealing with the big guys, I want to 79 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: see what he's doing versus the run. And I think 80 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: that you know, Leo has been doing a solid job 81 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: against the run. You know, he would be the first 82 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: one to tell you he could do better, Um and 83 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: both the run in the past. But the thing that 84 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: stands out for me with Leo is his his personality 85 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: is it's infectious like the energy. Um, the way he 86 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: attacks it each day is new. He attacks the day. 87 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: He's pretty diligent working through that. Um, he wants to 88 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: get better. Um, he's taking the coaching the heart. You 89 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: know that Spence gives them, Um that Joe gives him. 90 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: And really he's just he's just really being a sponge 91 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: in terms of trying to learn football, trying to perfect 92 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: his craft, trying to become the best NFL defensive lignment 93 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: he could be. And you know, and the part of 94 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: that is if you want to be the best, you 95 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: gotta realize that you're not there yet, no matter what 96 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: what you're what what you're you're in your career or 97 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: how many sacks, how many TFLs, you're not there yet. 98 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: He's attacking it like that, I believe. And uh, Nico 99 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: Lawless is a guy that uh you know it came 100 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: in from the IVY League like you. But what what 101 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: what is he? What has he done? Do him? Impressed? Not? Not? 102 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: Not like me? He played I did not play a 103 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: keep telling the other position. Coaches were talking about how 104 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: he's like being able to bounce between different positions and 105 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: he's been really diligent and all that. Like what is 106 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: what has impressed to you about him? The thing he 107 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: I mean, here's the easiest thing, and it's simple. He 108 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: paid attention when Joe went through the first meeting. The 109 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: more you can do, the better off you'll be. I mean, 110 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: it's not a surprise he's around here because he listens 111 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: to what the head coach told him. I mean that 112 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: that's I mean, you want to make it simple. Yeah, 113 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: did he changed his body in the weight room and 114 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: nutrition and all that stuff. Has he become like uh? 115 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: Has he worked hard with the skill set? Yeah? Absolutely, 116 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: all that stuff, the football stuff, But simply put, he 117 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: listened to what the head coach said. The head coach said, 118 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: the more you can do, the better off you'll be, 119 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: provided value, the chance to stick around. And he just 120 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: listened to Joe. I mean, just like I try to 121 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: listen to Joe. That's what you gotta do when you 122 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: gotta head coach. You listen to the head coach and 123 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: you try to make his job easier and you try to, 124 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, try to do his best for the team. 125 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: That's what he did. Thanks, let's take more Schwartz and Kenneman. Hey, Pat, 126 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: I want to go back to Metcalf for a second. Um, 127 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: Jerome said. The other day, we asked Jerome about how 128 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: you defend the guy and he basically said, you just 129 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,799 Speaker 1: hope the pass rush gets home. Is it really that simple? 130 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: And you know who does Met Caffre remind you of 131 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: in terms of guys you've you've coached against specifically, Man, 132 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: I mean I was not prepared for that one. Like 133 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: who comes to mind again, I'm only just mentioned big 134 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: wide receivers and then I'll go watch the table like, oh, 135 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: he's not actually that guy. But um, in terms of 136 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: being able to catch the ball deep, I mean, yeah, 137 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: there's so many big receivers that I've gone against. You know, Um, 138 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: you know Julio, you know Calvin Johnson since I've been 139 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: in the league, you know Dez Bryant when he was 140 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: doing it. I can't specifically tell you exactly who he 141 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: reminds me of exactly. He's such a unique talent in 142 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: my opinion, Um, the size, the ability of the block 143 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: in the run game, that's one that stands out for me. 144 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: He's actually a point of attack blocker. Like you would 145 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: say the left side of the line is a point 146 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: of attacker. Right side of the line is the point 147 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: he's a point of attack block in the run game. 148 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: That stands out to me. So I think, what we 149 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: gotta do. We gotta we gotta make it tough on him. 150 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: We gotta make it tough on him, whether it's you know, 151 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: playing off coverage, press coverage. Um, when he goes to block, 152 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: get our hands on him. Um. But I mean, he's 153 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: a unique talent. He's gonna find a way to get open. 154 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: That's the that's the nature of it. You know, these 155 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: guys are really good. Um. They get coached to and 156 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: Russ does a good job of finding them, you know, 157 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: shot having They do a good job of scheming it 158 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: up for him. But is it as simple as the 159 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: pass rush? I wish, I wish, I wish. I do. 160 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: Hope the pass rush gets there. But we're gonna have 161 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: to We're gonna have to play ball and figure out 162 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: what's best for that when we get to Sunday. Yeah. 163 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: Hey Patrick, Hey, Um, what's your philosophy on talking to 164 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: players posing players before games? You know, I know some 165 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: guys like to chat, some guys don't. Um. Um. Jim 166 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: Schwartz tried to try to give metcalf a compliment last week, 167 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: and uh, Metcalf didn't take it that way. I mean, 168 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: do you chat up these guys? Do you pump them up? 169 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: Do you ignore them? What do you do well? With? 170 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: The COVID thing is a little bit different, you know, 171 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: just like but if it's guys that I've coached before, 172 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, usually those are defensive players, so you know 173 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: they're on the other side. We're not even going against them, 174 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: but I'll say hi and greet them, and then usually 175 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: it starts with like a text message before the game 176 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: or you know, earlier in the week. But um, I'm 177 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: not before if you saw me down, if you guys 178 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: are on the field and some I'm not really talking. 179 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: I'm not really this about as much talking as I 180 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: do all week. I'm not the most talkative person. So 181 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: before the game, I'm I'm barely talking to our guys. 182 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm not going to chat with the 183 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: play and that's not me. I'm not gonna talk smack, 184 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: that's not me. I'm not you know, I guess, uh yeah, 185 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm not a big talker for most part. I'm pretty quiet. 186 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: Did you hear about that interplay between Jim Schwartz and Metcalf. 187 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: Did you hear what happened with that. No, I did 188 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: not know. I'm bad. I'm I'm sorry. I'm just now 189 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: when you're dealing with all these guys we have to 190 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: deal with, I mean, I don't have time that my 191 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: wife and kids. That's about it. You're looking up, you'll 192 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: find it interesting. I've better. I just want to hear 193 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: in Canada if Patrick, um, how do you does savior do? 194 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: I mean? Or how much progress is he making now 195 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: that he's back. Oh, he's doing a good job. He's 196 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: doing a good job, and you know, we just have 197 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: to be careful, you know, like his first game last 198 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: week and now he's got an opportunity this week, and 199 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: we'll see if the role increases, you know. But I 200 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: mean the kid is sorry, I mean calling kids. The 201 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: young man is doing a good job of studying. Um, 202 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: he's practicing well. I mean, the one thing that stands 203 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: out for me is his ability to tackle and go 204 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: through the tackling drills and really execute that. That's something 205 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: that you know, I told him, I said, even though 206 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: without that time, you're doing a good job working on that. 207 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: So he's doing a good job with that.