WEBVTT - It's Trade Deadline Day for the Phillies 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:03.960 Hi is Howie Roseman. 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:08.120 Welcome to the Philly Show. 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:11.760 Wow, it's Howie. It's Trade Deadline Day. Started to go 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:14.360 with the GM for the intro. It's a Philly Show. 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:19.560 Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd z Olecki. It is 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:24.720 Trade Deadline Day, six pm Eastern on Monday. Let's go. 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:30.960 It's time for first Pitch. First Pitch is powered by 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:41.520 Parks Casino, Pennsylvania's number one casino. Trade dead nine day. Guys, Jim, 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:42.160 are you excited? 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:42.520 Ruben? 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:43.320 Are you excited? 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:48.120 This is where Jim really shines. This is where Jim 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:49.640 shines the most. 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:56.800 That's right, like a kid on Christmas morning, he's done 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:00.080 wrapping his gifts. He used to be fun, but now 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:05.280 there's so much junk thrown out there, so much spaghetti 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:09.320 on the wall, and so much stuff you can't trust. 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:12.200 But I am confident the Phillies will make a move 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:17.520 sometime on Monday. I gotta think a reliever or maybe 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:23.120 a bat well. See, I am confident though there'll be 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:27.399 a new Philly later tonight. 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:32.600 Yeah, I mean I think they're definitely gonna get something. 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:35.959 I mean, they have to get something. Can you imagine 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:38.600 if they don't get something. I think they need a reliever. 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.240 I think they need a bat It'll be interesting to 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:44.399 see if they've backed off on the number five starter situation. 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:49.960 Following the way Andrew Painter pitched on Friday against the Orioles, 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.520 I thought it was really impressive. I don't know how 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:55.880 you guys felt, but double home run to start that 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:58.920 game and everybody's going, oh my god, how is this 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:02.560 guy gonna respond? He was great after that, I thought, 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.240 I mean, it's retired seventeen the final twenty one batters 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:10.919 he faced, So you could say, maybe they just punt 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:13.360 on a number five starter. Andrew Painter's the guy that 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.079 leaves you really thin though something happens those other three guys. 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.880 You're kind of screwed if one of those other three 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:21.880 guys gets hurt. But you know, maybe they just go 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.399 relieve or bat route and call it a day. 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.600 Well it was a plus, There's no question, I said. 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:30.919 I watched Painter do his thing. I was really impressed. 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.320 We know that the guys got good makeup. He just 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:36.320 don't know how there's good respond back in the big league. 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:39.639 You just never know how a player will respond. Sometimes 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:41.720 it takes a little time He got beat up pretty 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:46.400 strongly in his early part of his career, and it's 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:49.560 really about bouncing back and for him to get smashed 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:53.800 in his mouth and then bounce back after, you know, 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:55.480 there's a lot of stuff around him. I mean, there's 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.679 a lot of expectations, and for him to come back 0:02:57.720 --> 0:02:59.560 and to throw with the kind of conviction and the 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.399 kahonna he said he threw with. I was really impressed 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:05.720 by that. I really liked his next five innings did 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:07.880 a heck of a job. They got him out at 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:14.239 the right time, and it was a really like all 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:17.040 the things about him that I was concerned about, him 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:20.600 driving the ball down the slope and cutting it loose 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:24.200 and letting his you know, letting his fastball go. Now, 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.000 he did throw a lot of breaking balls, and he 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.600 threw a lot of conviction. He's got a new off 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:32.160 speed pitch. In the change up straight change, I think 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.760 he felt like that split was taken away from some 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:38.840 of his aggressiveness and and maybe some of his mechanics, 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:42.000 and so that straight change was very good. He thought 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:44.320 it was a split, but we found out that it 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:47.800 was a It was straight change and so circle change 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:51.360 and so a lot of good stuff. Now. Does this 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:53.160 mean he's going to be a number one starter? No? 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:58.160 Does this mean that the Phillies might have a chance 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:02.160 to not have to deal with going to get or 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:05.520 make a starting picture a priority and going other ways. 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:09.400 That's the possibility too. So I just like the way 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.480 the kid pitched. I hope he can back it up 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.600 and continue to do and continue to grow. It's never 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:16.960 a straight line. We've talked about it a million times, 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:21.440 and you know, it'll be interesting to see how things 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:25.800 shout out as the afternoon wears on here on trade 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:26.400 deadline day. 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.360 I agree he was impressive on Friday night because in 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.960 that first inning, you I think everybody was like, oh boy, 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:35.760 here we go, right right out of the gate with 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:38.200 the two run Homer on Alonso. I got to think 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:40.600 that was the feeling in the dugout as well, and 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:44.120 the kid kind of stomped out those feelings by showing 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.640 some real toughness. I agree he was letting it go 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:50.760 more and that's a sign of a confident picture. Let 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:55.039 me ask you this, So the change up has replaced 0:04:55.080 --> 0:05:01.279 the splitty what was his original? Uh? Change your pace? 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:02.440 Was it a straight change? 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.200 I don't think he used to one I don't think 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.839 he really used I think he originally had a straight change. 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:10.720 And then he went to split he said, he said so, 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:12.320 he said, he went back and looked at film in 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:15.760 twenty twenty two, and he said that edge tronic stuff, 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.679 those high speed cameras, and he was thrown a straight change. 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.039 So he just went went back. He went back to that. 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:26.200 So to me, that's indicative, indicative that it's indicative of 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:30.560 a kid who maybe has tinkered too much and maybe 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:34.000 spent too much time in the lab instead of just 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.599 doing what he does well and have you four pictures 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:38.960 and do well? You know it used to be you 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:42.560 had your four pictures, you didn't need seven, so you 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:46.799 didn't start running another one until you matched them all. 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:49.240 So why why all a tinkering y? 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:52.240 If I'm not mistaken, he didn't he start developing this 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.440 cutter like at one in the spring change and that's 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:57.800 when his elbow started to bother. Yeah. 0:05:57.960 --> 0:05:59.839 No, that was like a slider. It was a slider 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:02.920 slider cutter like. 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.360 Something I never had. He was a fastball, curveball. 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:07.719 Change up guy, I think originally, but here's something interesting. 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:09.839 This is kind of inside baseball. I think you guys 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.599 will like this. So Painter after the game on Friday, 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.159 and now we're gonna get back to trade deadline stuff. 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:20.120 But Painter said after the game on Friday, in ditching 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.479 the split and going to the circle change, he said, 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:26.279 pre gripping that pitch ninety times a game, I have 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:28.800 a theory that kind of messed with my fastball a 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:32.359 little bit. And so I saw Caleb Cotham on the 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:34.640 field before the game day I said, he said he 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.000 had this theory. It's like, well, yeah, He's like, so 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:40.039 if you're pre gripping it every pitch obviously split, right, 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.800 you want your fastball grip, you want it to be 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:45.200 like a finger in between, right. 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:45.720 You know. 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:49.479 He's like, but you you might not realize it, but 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:53.599 your grip on your fastball might be getting messed up 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:56.360 a little bit altered, getting altered a little bit. Even 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.320 though you don't think it's getting altered, you're kind of 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:01.880 doing it anyway way. And so that's kind of affected 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:05.240 the way the ball flight was going. And so he 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:07.600 feels like now that he's not going to be pre 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:11.040 gripping all the time for the split, that it's going 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:14.120 to get him back to a better fastball and they've 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.880 kind of saw it in the minor leagues. The velocity 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.040 was I mean, that's mechanics more or less, but the 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.480 flight of the pet pitch seemed to be better. He 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:24.240 seemed to be more happy with it, had a little 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.200 bit more life to a little bit more ride to it. 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.520 So we'll see. But I thought that was kind of 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:32.640 a interesting reason for ditching the splitter. 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:37.800 If he can give them some sebilance of number five 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:41.240 and some innings back there, they can, and they got 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:45.720 to make a quick call on it. Obviously they could 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:51.160 use their resources elsewhere because they still have multiple holes. Well, 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:54.720 you know, it's interesting. His performance has been good, Dela 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:58.920 Cruz has been good in two areas. Now maybe you 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:03.680 can get a left handed bat compliment Dela Cruz. Don't know. 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:07.200 But at least they won a series, and both of 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:11.320 those guys made some contributions, even though Painter didn't, you know, 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:15.520 he didn't win that particular ballgame. So it was good 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.440 to get a series win out of Baltimore. And it's 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.280 just kind of it kind of galls you that they 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:24.560 lost that series in Miami, giving away two games. 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:30.280 Those fully bullpen fully bullpen for me fully both I 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:33.520 mean a Lozardo on the one in the one game, 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.920 but certainly the bullpen crumbled on a couple of times. 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.320 They swept, so they could have won, They could have 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:40.120 won two series. 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:43.880 So, Jim, you mentioned Daia Cruz and he's he's he's playing. 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.600 He's played well in very small sample size eight games 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.520 with the Phillies, batting four fifty two home run six 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:53.640 RBIs in his career seven oh four ops, six year 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:56.520 career in the minor leagues this year in Triple A 0:08:56.640 --> 0:09:01.800 eight oh six ops. Have you seen enough where you 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:03.920 mentioned maybe a left handed bat? They need a bat 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.680 right you know there's bats out there Phillys. Have you 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:13.640 know Joe Adell, Jake McCarthy, Taylor Ward, Luisa Rise, Dalton 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.280 var Show. Those are all bats that could come out 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:18.240 and maybe help this team. Some are right handed, some 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:19.840 are left handed. There's others out there. 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:26.360 But the prices are high. I think they'll start trickling 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:28.199 down about noontime. 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:30.960 Yeah, that's what I mean. We've I think we've all 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:32.920 kind of heard the same thing that they asking prices 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.840 right now are high. 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:40.600 Super high, not like ridiculous, like they're they're running into 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.600 a lot of brick walls out there for for a 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:46.480 lot of reasons, and you know, that's sort of how 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:49.080 it works. It's about the marketplace, like who, what are 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.640 you willing to pay? What are you willing to pay? 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:57.160 I I think the Dodgers paid pretty heavy on on 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:03.000 schoobl but not ridiculously heavy. No, nothing ridiculous. I guess 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:04.960 the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Who 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:08.320 knows how good those players are going to be. For Detroit, 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:13.320 you can talk about, you know, what you think they are, 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.520 but if their scouts saw things that they really liked, 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:20.680 or their analytics people, whoever it may be, then it 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:23.440 could end up being you know, it could end up 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:27.040 with something pretty pretty strong talent. Who knows. 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:31.040 They kept their top four prospects, I think, and two 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:32.920 of the guys, two of the three guys in the 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:36.559 deal were guys that had come into the Dodgers system 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:40.679 through other trades. Yeah, so right, it doesn't feel like 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:44.600 they were really you know, took it on the chin 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:46.520 in that deal in terms of what they gave up, 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:50.040 and they they they got maybe the best pitcher in 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:54.040 baseball inside track on the third straight World Series, and 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:59.040 they kept them away from the Brewers. So you can't. Now, 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.920 the Brewers can't come at can't come at anybody with 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:06.480 Schooble and Miserawski talk about a one two punch that 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.160 is such a huge part of the equation keeping him 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:12.160 out of Milwaukee. And that's why I scratched my head. 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:16.240 Why Milwaukee, with their deep farm system didn't do everything 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:18.680 they could. I mean, I don't know what they did, 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.400 but yeah, I feel like they needed to make that 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:26.720 happen and pair Miserroski and Schooble and finally try to 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.959 have a baseball parade in Brewtown. 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:33.440 Yeah, that would have been what a combo that would 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:33.719 have been. 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:34.720 Yeah. 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:37.559 So the two top guys the Dodgers gave up with 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.680 it were the Dodgers number five and number seven prospects, 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:44.320 both the top one hundred prospects according to the MLB pipeline. 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:46.680 You know me, top one hundred prospects. The Dodgers have 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:50.840 left now seven? Well, I guess it depends Baseball America 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:54.640 MLB pipeline. They have seven top one hundred prospects left. 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:58.720 The Phillies have three. They have gauge Wood of course 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:02.160 number forty eight MLB Pipeline eight and Miller number fifty 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.880 than Francisco Rentterrea is number eighty six. 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.920 So yeah, for all the people that are like, you know, 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:11.240 yelling and screaming, oh you know, the rich keep getting richer. 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:16.520 This is not about payroll. This one is about talent 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:20.080 and their ability to acquire talent so that they can 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.959 make these moves. One of the things that I did 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:26.319 not do well is continue the pipeline and get the 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.840 amount of talent that a team like the Dodgers have 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:34.880 accumulated through scouting, through international scouting, through trades with other 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:39.559 teams that seem mundane, but they continue to add talent 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:44.920 to their system, work underneath the current and be able 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.240 to bring more and more talent into their system so 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.080 they can so they can acquire more talent. This is 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:54.040 a move that was made because they have talent acquisition 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:58.000 skills that are better than everybody's. Because they're not drafting 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:01.880 high and their international was not really very high because 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.560 they're not they've been winning, and so for them to 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:07.640 have done what they've done, I mean, you got to 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.600 give them a lot of credit, and you can't blame 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:13.000 them for trying to do what they're doing. I think 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:16.480 that's exactly what how they should operate, and Andrew Friedman 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:17.960 does a phenomenal job of it. 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:21.800 This was not about finances because they're only paying schoolble 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:29.680 what two months salary. Yeah, So yeah, they they're they're, 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:33.200 they're they're a very smart organization. We talked about it, 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.520 talked about it recently that Roboleski was an eleventh round pick. 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:41.160 I mean, they rescued Max Munsey off the scrap heap. 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:42.640 They do so many good things. 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:43.800 The Phillies. 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:45.559 I mean, for those of wondering that the Phillies just 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.720 would not have been able to outbid the Dodgers for this, 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:50.319 they weren't in on school bawl. 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:54.280 Because they don't have the depth. They don't the reason. 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.840 They might have had the talent. They might have some 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:58.920 guys that can put together to give them that kind 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:01.280 of talent, but they just don't have the same level 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:04.160 of death and nobody does. They have the same level 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:07.720 of death that as the Dodgers do, and you know, 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.760 maybe Milwaukee does, but I mean, they they they're a 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.600 little bit more reluctant because they have a different level 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:17.440 of value on those on those prospects, because they think 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:22.240 more in the future and competitiveness as opposed to winning rings. 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:24.080 That's the difference. 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:29.400 What about we haven't really touched on the bullpen situation 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:33.200 right now. Anybody out there that you guys would like. 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:37.760 To pretty it's nice to see. It's nice to see. 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:42.040 It's nice to see Alvarado throw the ball better. He's 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:46.400 a huge element here. A bullet's done, Okay, Kirkhran struggled. 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.120 He needs to bounce back and be better. 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:54.280 But they it's clear that that the bullpen is a 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:57.880 real issue and they do need to add to it, 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:00.480 and it continues to be a priorit for me. 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:05.440 I have not changed my thought process. Priority one is 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:09.080 bullpen and someone who can pitch in the eighth inning. 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:13.080 Beyond that, you're talking one, A, B and C. 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:18.480 Any names anybody give you flow in the boat pen? 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.560 Well, the guy with the in the with the Mets 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:26.520 gives me flow. Luke Weaver and Clay Holmes and Clay 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:28.960 those two guys give me plenty of flow. I just 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.760 don't know that they'll do that within division. 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.360 What about Jeff Hoffman bring him back from. 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.000 I would not bring Jeff Hoppin back to the Phillies. No, 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.200 I would absolutely not bring him back to the Phillies. 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.440 I am very reluctant to bring him back as well. 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:48.760 I mean, this is three straight octobers, he said, trouble 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:56.720 in including some you know, momentous breakdowns, implosions, breakdowns. The 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:58.520 only way i'd bring him, and he's owed a lot 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:03.000 of money next year, that's he would maybe is like 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:04.880 a six or seventh inning guy, but that's a lot 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:05.640 of money for one of them. 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:07.320 I like the man, But if you want to lock 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.280 it down, I mean, if you're gonna bring him, that's 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.600 a fine. You can bring him back, but don't bring 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:15.440 him back to pitching in the eighth to lock down 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:19.520 three outs, because he's sort of proven that he hasn't 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:23.200 been able to do that and a few times, and 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:26.400 so I think you got to change the mix. 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:31.480 If that's your move. I'm okay if it's like the 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:34.200 sixth inning, seventh inning. But like I said, I. 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:35.800 Love the guy. I love the guy, don't get me 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:38.120 wrong of money for that. I love the person. 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.960 Familiar with him here, Caleb kind of invented him or 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:44.680 reinvented him. Maybe they can work some magic, but public 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:48.800 relations wise, it's gonna be a tough one to sell 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.120 on this fan base, especially if that's her. 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:55.360 Well imagine if he ends up going important games that 0:16:55.480 --> 0:17:00.360 down the line because because the ball gets heavy on him. Yeah, 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:01.600 that would not be a good look. 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:05.760 Well, we'll see what's what they're gonna do again. 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However we want 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:03.040 to do it, we can do it. You guys want 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:04.760 to start, I'll start. 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:07.240 I'll jump out, I'll jump down. I'll give it to 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:10.320 Brian Delacruz. Man I got to give it to Brian Delacruz, 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:12.920 and I think it's a solid one just because he's 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:16.359 come up with some energy. I will tell you this 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:18.560 about him. When I saw him in Miami, and I've 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:22.320 seen him prior, uh before he went to Houston. He 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.800 comes to Miami, I've done some I did some scouting 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:28.719 in nineteen and some other some other years. Kind of 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:30.479 liked this guy. I had a good report on this 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.400 guy because I thought he could do some things. Whether 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:36.159 he was going to be a platoon guy, maybe not 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:39.320 like an every day maybe a fill in on the corners. 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:43.600 I sort of liked him. You know. Fast forward about 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:46.919 four years later, He's got an opportunity to play in 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:49.600 Miami a little bit, got got a chance to play 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:52.280 in a couple of different places, and I just thought 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:54.800 he was a good six year free agent signing. When 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:58.920 they signed him, I thought he would perform a little 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:02.920 bit better, and they always sort of gave it. Gave 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:05.240 a job to Otto Kemp right out of the shoot. 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:09.000 Didn't seem like he really got the real opportunity to 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:11.119 show what he could do in spring training, and if 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.840 he did, he didn't do much with it. But I 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:17.800 got to give the guys some love. He came up. 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:21.280 Is he a world beater? I don't know, but he 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:25.000 has sparked this team and given these guys in his 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:28.240 role an opportunity to win some games and come up 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:31.720 with some big hits. Man guys. He's crushed some balls 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:33.600 and hit the ball well. He's playing with a lot 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:36.240 of confidence. He's playing with a he's given the team 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:38.520 a little bit of a spark, and he's played pretty 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:41.360 good solid defense. He hasn't really been a great defender, 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:44.400 but he seems like he's gotten better in the corners 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:48.440 and he's certainly not a liability. So yeah, I'm gonna 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.119 give him a nice a nice size slice of the pie. 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:57.879 To Brian Delacruz. Nice going cruising white or red. Oh, 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:01.639 it's definitely white, definitely white with UH with the broccoli 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:06.440 and UH and chicken on it. I think they're gonna 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:06.800 call it. 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:11.280 The Rubinson, Okay, I agree with I think they're gonna 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:16.679 rename it. He's been a contributor, which I'll take it 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:20.439 because you know, in that revolving outfield red field spot, 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:24.560 there's been a lot of non contributors. You mentioned Otto. 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.080 He was kind of handed the job. You could see 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:30.560 the writing on the wall. October November, they were talking 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:36.000 about him getting a shot before they even signed Dela Cruz. 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:40.439 So you know, Uh, the last guy to get the 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:44.760 shot here is maybe the one that will grasp it 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:45.280 a little bit. 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:49.160 Makes you wonder what took them so long to promote him. 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:51.000 Well, they had, Yeah, he was on he was on 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:53.040 a minor league the other looking at other guys. He 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:55.400 had a he had a July first out, so they 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:59.439 had some some flexibility there, some questions. 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:03.919 They also had some roster issues. You know sometimes you know, 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:06.000 you don't want to lose certain guys. He had, They 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:08.040 had some time. They ended up having to put him 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:09.679 on the forty man because it was a deal that 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:12.560 he sort of cut prior. If they didn't put him 0:21:12.600 --> 0:21:14.720 on the man, he probably would have lost the guy. 0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:20.000 Uh excellent, wherewithal of of doing that and not jettisoning him. 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:23.520 They could have jettisoned him, but they held on to him, 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:26.760 and uh, and when he got an opportunity, he's he's 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:29.520 taking he's taking the ball. He's run with a little bit, 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:30.240 which is nice. 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:33.800 Yeah, they used that time for their advantage and hats 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:38.560 off for him for for being persistent. So I'm gonna 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:45.119 give mine based on Sunday in the Swamp, That's what 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:49.560 that field looked like there was borderline irresponsible. 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:51.440 To send those two churn. 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:53.000 Out on that out on that mud. I don't know. 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:55.439 I know it's the last time, the only time they 0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:58.360 see him, and it's getaway today. But come on, man, 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:02.720 some team here's only one growing, ripped, growing away from 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:06.439 having their season crushed. That was, Thank goodness, everybody get 0:22:06.480 --> 0:22:09.600 out of there one piece. Anyway, I'm giving mine based 0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:14.520 on Sunday's win to Justin Crawford. I mean, this kid 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:18.359 is just a slasher and a dasher, and you know 0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:20.919 he's kind of lined the line, has some good at bats, 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:23.840