Speaker 1: Hi is Howie Roseman.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Philly Show.
Speaker 1: Wow, it's Howie. It's Trade Deadline Day. Started to go
Speaker 1: with the GM for the intro. It's a Philly Show.
Speaker 1: Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd z Olecki. It is
Speaker 1: Trade Deadline Day, six pm Eastern on Monday. Let's go.
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Speaker 1: are you excited?
Speaker 2: Ruben?
Speaker 1: Are you excited?
Speaker 2: This is where Jim really shines. This is where Jim
Speaker 2: shines the most.
Speaker 3: That's right, like a kid on Christmas morning, he's done
Speaker 3: wrapping his gifts. He used to be fun, but now
Speaker 3: there's so much junk thrown out there, so much spaghetti
Speaker 3: on the wall, and so much stuff you can't trust.
Speaker 3: But I am confident the Phillies will make a move
Speaker 3: sometime on Monday. I gotta think a reliever or maybe
Speaker 3: a bat well. See, I am confident though there'll be
Speaker 3: a new Philly later tonight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think they're definitely gonna get something.
Speaker 1: I mean, they have to get something. Can you imagine
Speaker 1: if they don't get something. I think they need a reliever.
Speaker 1: I think they need a bat It'll be interesting to
Speaker 1: see if they've backed off on the number five starter situation.
Speaker 1: Following the way Andrew Painter pitched on Friday against the Orioles,
Speaker 1: I thought it was really impressive. I don't know how
Speaker 1: you guys felt, but double home run to start that
Speaker 1: game and everybody's going, oh my god, how is this
Speaker 1: guy gonna respond? He was great after that, I thought,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's retired seventeen the final twenty one batters
Speaker 1: he faced, So you could say, maybe they just punt
Speaker 1: on a number five starter. Andrew Painter's the guy that
Speaker 1: leaves you really thin though something happens those other three guys.
Speaker 1: You're kind of screwed if one of those other three
Speaker 1: guys gets hurt. But you know, maybe they just go
Speaker 1: relieve or bat route and call it a day.
Speaker 2: Well it was a plus, There's no question, I said.
Speaker 2: I watched Painter do his thing. I was really impressed.
Speaker 2: We know that the guys got good makeup. He just
Speaker 2: don't know how there's good respond back in the big league.
Speaker 2: You just never know how a player will respond. Sometimes
Speaker 2: it takes a little time He got beat up pretty
Speaker 2: strongly in his early part of his career, and it's
Speaker 2: really about bouncing back and for him to get smashed
Speaker 2: in his mouth and then bounce back after, you know,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff around him. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of expectations, and for him to come back
Speaker 2: and to throw with the kind of conviction and the
Speaker 2: kahonna he said he threw with. I was really impressed
Speaker 2: by that. I really liked his next five innings did
Speaker 2: a heck of a job. They got him out at
Speaker 2: the right time, and it was a really like all
Speaker 2: the things about him that I was concerned about, him
Speaker 2: driving the ball down the slope and cutting it loose
Speaker 2: and letting his you know, letting his fastball go. Now,
Speaker 2: he did throw a lot of breaking balls, and he
Speaker 2: threw a lot of conviction. He's got a new off
Speaker 2: speed pitch. In the change up straight change, I think
Speaker 2: he felt like that split was taken away from some
Speaker 2: of his aggressiveness and and maybe some of his mechanics,
Speaker 2: and so that straight change was very good. He thought
Speaker 2: it was a split, but we found out that it
Speaker 2: was a It was straight change and so circle change
Speaker 2: and so a lot of good stuff. Now. Does this
Speaker 2: mean he's going to be a number one starter? No?
Speaker 2: Does this mean that the Phillies might have a chance
Speaker 2: to not have to deal with going to get or
Speaker 2: make a starting picture a priority and going other ways.
Speaker 2: That's the possibility too. So I just like the way
Speaker 2: the kid pitched. I hope he can back it up
Speaker 2: and continue to do and continue to grow. It's never
Speaker 2: a straight line. We've talked about it a million times,
Speaker 2: and you know, it'll be interesting to see how things
Speaker 2: shout out as the afternoon wears on here on trade
Speaker 2: deadline day.
Speaker 3: I agree he was impressive on Friday night because in
Speaker 3: that first inning, you I think everybody was like, oh boy,
Speaker 3: here we go, right right out of the gate with
Speaker 3: the two run Homer on Alonso. I got to think
Speaker 3: that was the feeling in the dugout as well, and
Speaker 3: the kid kind of stomped out those feelings by showing
Speaker 3: some real toughness. I agree he was letting it go
Speaker 3: more and that's a sign of a confident picture. Let
Speaker 3: me ask you this, So the change up has replaced
Speaker 3: the splitty what was his original? Uh? Change your pace?
Speaker 3: Was it a straight change?
Speaker 2: I don't think he used to one I don't think
Speaker 2: he really used I think he originally had a straight change.
Speaker 1: And then he went to split he said, he said so,
Speaker 1: he said, he went back and looked at film in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, and he said that edge tronic stuff,
Speaker 1: those high speed cameras, and he was thrown a straight change.
Speaker 1: So he just went went back. He went back to that.
Speaker 3: So to me, that's indicative, indicative that it's indicative of
Speaker 3: a kid who maybe has tinkered too much and maybe
Speaker 3: spent too much time in the lab instead of just
Speaker 3: doing what he does well and have you four pictures
Speaker 3: and do well? You know it used to be you
Speaker 3: had your four pictures, you didn't need seven, so you
Speaker 3: didn't start running another one until you matched them all.
Speaker 3: So why why all a tinkering y?
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, he didn't he start developing this
Speaker 2: cutter like at one in the spring change and that's
Speaker 2: when his elbow started to bother. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, that was like a slider. It was a slider
Speaker 1: slider cutter like.
Speaker 2: Something I never had. He was a fastball, curveball.
Speaker 1: Change up guy, I think originally, but here's something interesting.
Speaker 1: This is kind of inside baseball. I think you guys
Speaker 1: will like this. So Painter after the game on Friday,
Speaker 1: and now we're gonna get back to trade deadline stuff.
Speaker 1: But Painter said after the game on Friday, in ditching
Speaker 1: the split and going to the circle change, he said,
Speaker 1: pre gripping that pitch ninety times a game, I have
Speaker 1: a theory that kind of messed with my fastball a
Speaker 1: little bit. And so I saw Caleb Cotham on the
Speaker 1: field before the game day I said, he said he
Speaker 1: had this theory. It's like, well, yeah, He's like, so
Speaker 1: if you're pre gripping it every pitch obviously split, right,
Speaker 1: you want your fastball grip, you want it to be
Speaker 1: like a finger in between, right.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: He's like, but you you might not realize it, but
Speaker 1: your grip on your fastball might be getting messed up
Speaker 1: a little bit altered, getting altered a little bit. Even
Speaker 1: though you don't think it's getting altered, you're kind of
Speaker 1: doing it anyway way. And so that's kind of affected
Speaker 1: the way the ball flight was going. And so he
Speaker 1: feels like now that he's not going to be pre
Speaker 1: gripping all the time for the split, that it's going
Speaker 1: to get him back to a better fastball and they've
Speaker 1: kind of saw it in the minor leagues. The velocity
Speaker 1: was I mean, that's mechanics more or less, but the
Speaker 1: flight of the pet pitch seemed to be better. He
Speaker 1: seemed to be more happy with it, had a little
Speaker 1: bit more life to a little bit more ride to it.
Speaker 1: So we'll see. But I thought that was kind of
Speaker 1: a interesting reason for ditching the splitter.
Speaker 3: If he can give them some sebilance of number five
Speaker 3: and some innings back there, they can, and they got
Speaker 3: to make a quick call on it. Obviously they could
Speaker 3: use their resources elsewhere because they still have multiple holes. Well,
Speaker 3: you know, it's interesting. His performance has been good, Dela
Speaker 3: Cruz has been good in two areas. Now maybe you
Speaker 3: can get a left handed bat compliment Dela Cruz. Don't know.
Speaker 3: But at least they won a series, and both of
Speaker 3: those guys made some contributions, even though Painter didn't, you know,
Speaker 3: he didn't win that particular ballgame. So it was good
Speaker 3: to get a series win out of Baltimore. And it's
Speaker 3: just kind of it kind of galls you that they
Speaker 3: lost that series in Miami, giving away two games.
Speaker 2: Those fully bullpen fully bullpen for me fully both I
Speaker 2: mean a Lozardo on the one in the one game,
Speaker 2: but certainly the bullpen crumbled on a couple of times.
Speaker 3: They swept, so they could have won, They could have
Speaker 3: won two series.
Speaker 1: So, Jim, you mentioned Daia Cruz and he's he's he's playing.
Speaker 1: He's played well in very small sample size eight games
Speaker 1: with the Phillies, batting four fifty two home run six
Speaker 1: RBIs in his career seven oh four ops, six year
Speaker 1: career in the minor leagues this year in Triple A
Speaker 1: eight oh six ops. Have you seen enough where you
Speaker 1: mentioned maybe a left handed bat? They need a bat
Speaker 1: right you know there's bats out there Phillys. Have you
Speaker 1: know Joe Adell, Jake McCarthy, Taylor Ward, Luisa Rise, Dalton
Speaker 1: var Show. Those are all bats that could come out
Speaker 1: and maybe help this team. Some are right handed, some
Speaker 1: are left handed. There's others out there.
Speaker 3: But the prices are high. I think they'll start trickling
Speaker 3: down about noontime.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I mean. We've I think we've all
Speaker 1: kind of heard the same thing that they asking prices
Speaker 1: right now are high.
Speaker 2: Super high, not like ridiculous, like they're they're running into
Speaker 2: a lot of brick walls out there for for a
Speaker 2: lot of reasons, and you know, that's sort of how
Speaker 2: it works. It's about the marketplace, like who, what are
Speaker 2: you willing to pay? What are you willing to pay?
Speaker 2: I I think the Dodgers paid pretty heavy on on
Speaker 2: schoobl but not ridiculously heavy. No, nothing ridiculous. I guess
Speaker 2: the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Who
Speaker 2: knows how good those players are going to be. For Detroit,
Speaker 2: you can talk about, you know, what you think they are,
Speaker 2: but if their scouts saw things that they really liked,
Speaker 2: or their analytics people, whoever it may be, then it
Speaker 2: could end up being you know, it could end up
Speaker 2: with something pretty pretty strong talent. Who knows.
Speaker 3: They kept their top four prospects, I think, and two
Speaker 3: of the guys, two of the three guys in the
Speaker 3: deal were guys that had come into the Dodgers system
Speaker 3: through other trades. Yeah, so right, it doesn't feel like
Speaker 3: they were really you know, took it on the chin
Speaker 3: in that deal in terms of what they gave up,
Speaker 3: and they they they got maybe the best pitcher in
Speaker 3: baseball inside track on the third straight World Series, and
Speaker 3: they kept them away from the Brewers. So you can't. Now,
Speaker 3: the Brewers can't come at can't come at anybody with
Speaker 3: Schooble and Miserawski talk about a one two punch that
Speaker 3: is such a huge part of the equation keeping him
Speaker 3: out of Milwaukee. And that's why I scratched my head.
Speaker 3: Why Milwaukee, with their deep farm system didn't do everything
Speaker 3: they could. I mean, I don't know what they did,
Speaker 3: but yeah, I feel like they needed to make that
Speaker 3: happen and pair Miserroski and Schooble and finally try to
Speaker 3: have a baseball parade in Brewtown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have been what a combo that would
Speaker 1: have been.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the two top guys the Dodgers gave up with
Speaker 1: it were the Dodgers number five and number seven prospects,
Speaker 1: both the top one hundred prospects according to the MLB pipeline.
Speaker 1: You know me, top one hundred prospects. The Dodgers have
Speaker 1: left now seven? Well, I guess it depends Baseball America
Speaker 1: MLB pipeline. They have seven top one hundred prospects left.
Speaker 1: The Phillies have three. They have gauge Wood of course
Speaker 1: number forty eight MLB Pipeline eight and Miller number fifty
Speaker 1: than Francisco Rentterrea is number eighty six.
Speaker 2: So yeah, for all the people that are like, you know,
Speaker 2: yelling and screaming, oh you know, the rich keep getting richer.
Speaker 2: This is not about payroll. This one is about talent
Speaker 2: and their ability to acquire talent so that they can
Speaker 2: make these moves. One of the things that I did
Speaker 2: not do well is continue the pipeline and get the
Speaker 2: amount of talent that a team like the Dodgers have
Speaker 2: accumulated through scouting, through international scouting, through trades with other
Speaker 2: teams that seem mundane, but they continue to add talent
Speaker 2: to their system, work underneath the current and be able
Speaker 2: to bring more and more talent into their system so
Speaker 2: they can so they can acquire more talent. This is
Speaker 2: a move that was made because they have talent acquisition
Speaker 2: skills that are better than everybody's. Because they're not drafting
Speaker 2: high and their international was not really very high because
Speaker 2: they're not they've been winning, and so for them to
Speaker 2: have done what they've done, I mean, you got to
Speaker 2: give them a lot of credit, and you can't blame
Speaker 2: them for trying to do what they're doing. I think
Speaker 2: that's exactly what how they should operate, and Andrew Friedman
Speaker 2: does a phenomenal job of it.
Speaker 3: This was not about finances because they're only paying schoolble
Speaker 3: what two months salary. Yeah, So yeah, they they're they're,
Speaker 3: they're they're a very smart organization. We talked about it,
Speaker 3: talked about it recently that Roboleski was an eleventh round pick.
Speaker 3: I mean, they rescued Max Munsey off the scrap heap.
Speaker 3: They do so many good things.
Speaker 2: The Phillies.
Speaker 1: I mean, for those of wondering that the Phillies just
Speaker 1: would not have been able to outbid the Dodgers for this,
Speaker 1: they weren't in on school bawl.
Speaker 2: Because they don't have the depth. They don't the reason.
Speaker 2: They might have had the talent. They might have some
Speaker 2: guys that can put together to give them that kind
Speaker 2: of talent, but they just don't have the same level
Speaker 2: of death and nobody does. They have the same level
Speaker 2: of death that as the Dodgers do, and you know,
Speaker 2: maybe Milwaukee does, but I mean, they they they're a
Speaker 2: little bit more reluctant because they have a different level
Speaker 2: of value on those on those prospects, because they think
Speaker 2: more in the future and competitiveness as opposed to winning rings.
Speaker 2: That's the difference.
Speaker 1: What about we haven't really touched on the bullpen situation
Speaker 1: right now. Anybody out there that you guys would like.
Speaker 2: To pretty it's nice to see. It's nice to see.
Speaker 2: It's nice to see Alvarado throw the ball better. He's
Speaker 2: a huge element here. A bullet's done, Okay, Kirkhran struggled.
Speaker 2: He needs to bounce back and be better.
Speaker 4: But they it's clear that that the bullpen is a
Speaker 4: real issue and they do need to add to it,
Speaker 4: and it continues to be a priorit for me.
Speaker 2: I have not changed my thought process. Priority one is
Speaker 2: bullpen and someone who can pitch in the eighth inning.
Speaker 2: Beyond that, you're talking one, A, B and C.
Speaker 3: Any names anybody give you flow in the boat pen?
Speaker 2: Well, the guy with the in the with the Mets
Speaker 2: gives me flow. Luke Weaver and Clay Holmes and Clay
Speaker 2: those two guys give me plenty of flow. I just
Speaker 2: don't know that they'll do that within division.
Speaker 1: What about Jeff Hoffman bring him back from.
Speaker 2: I would not bring Jeff Hoppin back to the Phillies. No,
Speaker 2: I would absolutely not bring him back to the Phillies.
Speaker 3: I am very reluctant to bring him back as well.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is three straight octobers, he said, trouble
Speaker 3: in including some you know, momentous breakdowns, implosions, breakdowns. The
Speaker 3: only way i'd bring him, and he's owed a lot
Speaker 3: of money next year, that's he would maybe is like
Speaker 3: a six or seventh inning guy, but that's a lot
Speaker 3: of money for one of them.
Speaker 2: I like the man, But if you want to lock
Speaker 2: it down, I mean, if you're gonna bring him, that's
Speaker 2: a fine. You can bring him back, but don't bring
Speaker 2: him back to pitching in the eighth to lock down
Speaker 2: three outs, because he's sort of proven that he hasn't
Speaker 2: been able to do that and a few times, and
Speaker 2: so I think you got to change the mix.
Speaker 3: If that's your move. I'm okay if it's like the
Speaker 3: sixth inning, seventh inning. But like I said, I.
Speaker 2: Love the guy. I love the guy, don't get me
Speaker 2: wrong of money for that. I love the person.
Speaker 3: Familiar with him here, Caleb kind of invented him or
Speaker 3: reinvented him. Maybe they can work some magic, but public
Speaker 3: relations wise, it's gonna be a tough one to sell
Speaker 3: on this fan base, especially if that's her.
Speaker 2: Well imagine if he ends up going important games that
Speaker 2: down the line because because the ball gets heavy on him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that would not be a good look.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll see what's what they're gonna do again. Six
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Speaker 1: It's Monday, guys, and it is time. Four guys know
Speaker 1: what time it is. It's time for Manko.
Speaker 2: It's trying to crush them Za time.
Speaker 1: It's time for Manco and Manco Best Week, where we
Speaker 1: pick the best Phillies player play performance. However we want
Speaker 1: to do it, we can do it. You guys want
Speaker 1: to start, I'll start.
Speaker 2: I'll jump out, I'll jump down. I'll give it to
Speaker 2: Brian Delacruz. Man I got to give it to Brian Delacruz,
Speaker 2: and I think it's a solid one just because he's
Speaker 2: come up with some energy. I will tell you this
Speaker 2: about him. When I saw him in Miami, and I've
Speaker 2: seen him prior, uh before he went to Houston. He
Speaker 2: comes to Miami, I've done some I did some scouting
Speaker 2: in nineteen and some other some other years. Kind of
Speaker 2: liked this guy. I had a good report on this
Speaker 2: guy because I thought he could do some things. Whether
Speaker 2: he was going to be a platoon guy, maybe not
Speaker 2: like an every day maybe a fill in on the corners.
Speaker 2: I sort of liked him. You know. Fast forward about
Speaker 2: four years later, He's got an opportunity to play in
Speaker 2: Miami a little bit, got got a chance to play
Speaker 2: in a couple of different places, and I just thought
Speaker 2: he was a good six year free agent signing. When
Speaker 2: they signed him, I thought he would perform a little
Speaker 2: bit better, and they always sort of gave it. Gave
Speaker 2: a job to Otto Kemp right out of the shoot.
Speaker 2: Didn't seem like he really got the real opportunity to
Speaker 2: show what he could do in spring training, and if
Speaker 2: he did, he didn't do much with it. But I
Speaker 2: got to give the guys some love. He came up.
Speaker 2: Is he a world beater? I don't know, but he
Speaker 2: has sparked this team and given these guys in his
Speaker 2: role an opportunity to win some games and come up
Speaker 2: with some big hits. Man guys. He's crushed some balls
Speaker 2: and hit the ball well. He's playing with a lot
Speaker 2: of confidence. He's playing with a he's given the team
Speaker 2: a little bit of a spark, and he's played pretty
Speaker 2: good solid defense. He hasn't really been a great defender,
Speaker 2: but he seems like he's gotten better in the corners
Speaker 2: and he's certainly not a liability. So yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: give him a nice a nice size slice of the pie.
Speaker 2: To Brian Delacruz. Nice going cruising white or red. Oh,
Speaker 2: it's definitely white, definitely white with UH with the broccoli
Speaker 2: and UH and chicken on it. I think they're gonna
Speaker 2: call it.
Speaker 3: The Rubinson, Okay, I agree with I think they're gonna
Speaker 3: rename it. He's been a contributor, which I'll take it
Speaker 3: because you know, in that revolving outfield red field spot,
Speaker 3: there's been a lot of non contributors. You mentioned Otto.
Speaker 3: He was kind of handed the job. You could see
Speaker 3: the writing on the wall. October November, they were talking
Speaker 3: about him getting a shot before they even signed Dela Cruz.
Speaker 3: So you know, Uh, the last guy to get the
Speaker 3: shot here is maybe the one that will grasp it
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 1: Makes you wonder what took them so long to promote him.
Speaker 3: Well, they had, Yeah, he was on he was on
Speaker 3: a minor league the other looking at other guys. He
Speaker 3: had a he had a July first out, so they
Speaker 3: had some some flexibility there, some questions.
Speaker 2: They also had some roster issues. You know sometimes you know,
Speaker 2: you don't want to lose certain guys. He had, They
Speaker 2: had some time. They ended up having to put him
Speaker 2: on the forty man because it was a deal that
Speaker 2: he sort of cut prior. If they didn't put him
Speaker 2: on the man, he probably would have lost the guy.
Speaker 2: Uh excellent, wherewithal of of doing that and not jettisoning him.
Speaker 2: They could have jettisoned him, but they held on to him,
Speaker 2: and uh, and when he got an opportunity, he's he's
Speaker 2: taking he's taking the ball. He's run with a little bit,
Speaker 2: which is nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they used that time for their advantage and hats
Speaker 3: off for him for for being persistent. So I'm gonna
Speaker 3: give mine based on Sunday in the Swamp, That's what
Speaker 3: that field looked like there was borderline irresponsible.
Speaker 2: To send those two churn.
Speaker 3: Out on that out on that mud. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I know it's the last time, the only time they
Speaker 3: see him, and it's getaway today. But come on, man,
Speaker 3: some team here's only one growing, ripped, growing away from
Speaker 3: having their season crushed. That was, Thank goodness, everybody get
Speaker 3: out of there one piece. Anyway, I'm giving mine based
Speaker 3: on Sunday's win to Justin Crawford. I mean, this kid
Speaker 3: is just a slasher and a dasher, and you know
Speaker 3: he's kind of lined the line, has some good at bats,
Speaker 3: dunk a couple in the right field, drove it around
Speaker 3: on a poled ground ball and helped them really win
Speaker 3: a ballgame. So and use his wheels, get on base,
Speaker 3: use your wheels. I thought he had a really nice game.
Speaker 3: I still think he reminds me if he can get there,
Speaker 3: if he keeps, if he can ascend and improve and
Speaker 3: add to his game. And he's very very young, he's
Speaker 3: still I wonder if he can be a William McGee type.
Speaker 3: He looked like him today.
Speaker 1: Great call, great call. I'm going to go with a
Speaker 1: guy who had a really big week in more ways
Speaker 1: than one. Bryce Harper had a big week. He had
Speaker 1: a big week from Monday in Miami until Sunday in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: A lot of we've talked a lot about that. Of course,
Speaker 1: we're not going to get into all of his comments
Speaker 1: and whatnot, although it was we did pop out of
Speaker 1: the clubhouse on Friday and there was Dave and Bryce
Speaker 1: walking and talking with Dave had his hand on Bryce's shoulder,
Speaker 1: so they're just clearing the air there and I heard
Speaker 1: a couple of way to go Harp, nice game, Harps
Speaker 1: after Saturday and Sunday's wins from Dave Dombrowski. So when
Speaker 1: he pops into the clubhouse. But you know, Bryce did
Speaker 1: say on Monday, it's my job to go out and play,
Speaker 1: and to go out and play and do my job,
Speaker 1: and obviously in the last month, I have not done
Speaker 1: my job to the best of my ability. Well Harper
Speaker 1: since he said that this past week six games betting
Speaker 1: three eighteen one double, one triple, two home runs, five RBIs,
Speaker 1: no ps over eleven hundreds. So you know, everybody said, like.
Speaker 5: You don't, you can't see anything less hitting three hundred
Speaker 5: with the twelve hundred ohps, maybe it's like, all right,
Speaker 5: I guess I gotta go ahead and hit hit three hundred.
Speaker 3: He needs to. They need him, They need him, They
Speaker 3: need him to kind of carry this thing the rest
Speaker 3: of the way. He needs to have a couple of
Speaker 3: great months and even a third great month in October.
Speaker 3: But can I say something about the Dombrowski Harper relationship.
Speaker 3: The relationship between the GM and a star player or
Speaker 3: the president baseball Ops and a star player, I think
Speaker 3: is completely overrated.
Speaker 2: To me.
Speaker 3: The important relationship is the GM, president of Baseball Ops
Speaker 3: and the manager. That's got to be a good one.
Speaker 3: But I don't even know that you need to have
Speaker 3: as a GM or president baseball Ops. You need to
Speaker 3: have extensive relationships with the players other than you know,
Speaker 3: you shake your hand at the press conference when you
Speaker 3: sign him, or you trade for him, or you draft him,
Speaker 3: and then you know, get out of the way and
Speaker 3: let him play. The rest is up to the field
Speaker 3: staff and the manager. So I don't think it's it's
Speaker 3: a it's a big deal. That might be just my opinion.
Speaker 3: Ruben might disagree, because I know he had relationships with
Speaker 3: some of his players, But I don't think you have
Speaker 3: to have a good or bad relationship with the GM.
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, I think the GM, the less he's seen,
Speaker 3: the better.
Speaker 2: Spot on Jim, and I totally agree with you. It
Speaker 2: doesn't mean shit.
Speaker 6: The reality of it is the relationship is really the
Speaker 6: real relationship is the player, the star player with the
Speaker 6: rest of his teammates. Yeah, and really the relationship between
Speaker 6: the manager and the coaching staff with the players, that's
Speaker 6: the rip because that's those are the people they deal
Speaker 6: with on the daily and.
Speaker 2: The reality of it is they just have their job
Speaker 2: is to perform in the field, and the job of
Speaker 2: the GM is to try to provide the as much
Speaker 2: talent as possible for the manager to do what they
Speaker 2: have to do with them to try to have them perform.
Speaker 2: So I don't disagree with you at all.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like that Chris Farley skit doesn't mean
Speaker 3: Jack Squaw, he's uh Matt Fowley.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I knew it was the motivational speaker. The Phillies need
Speaker 3: Matt Fowley to come in and give him a nice
Speaker 3: talking to.
Speaker 1: That'll get him going.
Speaker 2: What I do, what what I do think they needed
Speaker 2: And I got to give thank some love before for
Speaker 2: getting two out of three with the shore we're not
Speaker 2: really contributing right now. He's in between. He's struggling. It's
Speaker 2: been a struggle for him since, uh, since the All
Speaker 2: Star Breakwady and maybe a little bit before that. He's
Speaker 2: had some uh, some health issues and that's tough. What
Speaker 2: he's dealing with. It's very difficult. Uh. Stuff that he's
Speaker 2: dealing with. I don't want to get into is more personal.
Speaker 2: But the reason uh that that I that I was encouraged.
Speaker 2: They came back in the last game and they did
Speaker 2: the things that they needed to do. They got a
Speaker 2: performance from you know, from the bullpen guys. They did
Speaker 2: a good job. They did not walk people. Generally, they
Speaker 2: did their job and kept them in the game. I
Speaker 2: know it was a shortened game, but they added on
Speaker 2: with runs and they have to do that and typically
Speaker 2: they haven't been able to do that consistently without Shorebird contributing,
Speaker 2: and they didn't have him contributing, but they got they
Speaker 2: got some really good at bats from a couple of
Speaker 2: different especially situational at bats in that Sunday game that
Speaker 2: were really important for them to do proper. Had good
Speaker 2: situational at bat Dela Cruz JT. A lot of guys
Speaker 2: had very good situational at bats to create runs and
Speaker 2: create pressure, and that's what they need to do.
Speaker 3: It almost was like they simplified because they knew the
Speaker 3: weather was bad, the field was bad, more other was
Speaker 3: coming and they were like, this might be a short game.
Speaker 3: Let's just simplify and stack the pennies. And that's what happened.
Speaker 3: Instead of just sitting back and waiting for the big boom,
Speaker 3: they you know, simplified gut base runners, got them home.
Speaker 1: Got a win when when that they needed. That was
Speaker 1: their first series win since the All Star Break or
Speaker 1: since before the All Star break. So that was Manco
Speaker 1: Manco best week. When you want the best of the best,
Speaker 1: go to the Manco and Manco a couple more things.
Speaker 1: So Zach Wheeler pitched on Sunday.
Speaker 2: He only got to.
Speaker 1: Go two winnings because of the rain situation. But the
Speaker 1: good news is his fastball basically almost returned to where
Speaker 1: it was right. I mean, that was the thing coming
Speaker 1: out of Monday's start. Jim, we went down to the
Speaker 1: clubhouse after the game. We were like, is this guy hurt?
Speaker 1: He said, no, I'm fine, I'm fine, And we asked,
Speaker 1: We asked, don I mean Ruby you there in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: I think we asked down every day, like you sure
Speaker 1: Zach's okay for Sunday, and he's, like I said, I said,
Speaker 1: I just one a triple check because like you can
Speaker 1: triple check. He's fine.
Speaker 2: He's fine.
Speaker 1: But until he goes out there and pitches, you don't
Speaker 1: really know. But his fastball was an average ninety four
Speaker 1: point eight on Sunday. Season averages ninety five point two,
Speaker 1: so not all the way back, but I mean he
Speaker 1: was ninety three on Monday in Miami when all the
Speaker 1: alarm bells went off. So that was good to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he was ill. I think he was
Speaker 2: physically ill, some kind of flew something going on, whatever
Speaker 2: the case may be, and listen that happens. The one
Speaker 2: concern that I had.
Speaker 7: Is that, and I mentioned it on the broadcast, is
Speaker 7: that at some point he's going to hit that dead
Speaker 7: arm period and it's going to be a little bit
Speaker 7: later for him because he didn't start the season.
Speaker 2: He started the season late. And so when does he
Speaker 2: hit that is.
Speaker 7: This is this the period where he hits it, but
Speaker 7: him bouncing back and throwing away through the ball, and
Speaker 7: at least in the two innings that I that he pitched,
Speaker 7: it looked like he was back.
Speaker 2: To being closer to being himself. He had good life
Speaker 2: on all of this stuff, and so I'm not concerned
Speaker 2: about it. Hopefully the organization isn't concerned either.
Speaker 1: See what else we got. Phillies open up a four
Speaker 1: game series this week against the Nationals at Citizens Bank Park.
Speaker 1: So they got that's a series they gotta take.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nationals. Jennison is some of their offense. I mean,
Speaker 2: their offense has been one of the best in the game.
Speaker 2: They moved me, he gets hurt. They moved Luist Garcia
Speaker 2: to uh who's had a really good year and as
Speaker 2: a bit of a Philly killer. They move both those
Speaker 2: guys out of their out of their lineup. I think
Speaker 2: that votes well for the Phillies in this series. But well,
Speaker 2: these guys swing the back woods stud shortstops stuff. I mean,
Speaker 2: these guys are as he's swinging it. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: really come on and really surprised me. And he's really
Speaker 2: come on and become the player that a lot of
Speaker 2: people thought he would become. And you got to Mike
Speaker 2: Rizzoa got a lot of love for these moves. These
Speaker 2: are all Mike Rizzo's guys. Let's not get it twisted, folks.
Speaker 2: Mike Rizzo made these moves, not the people that are
Speaker 2: there now just saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got those two guns. Both those guys would
Speaker 3: in Abrams from San Diego, right, a Soto deal, It's
Speaker 3: correct think. But you know the Phillies do. They need
Speaker 3: to have a good homestad here because look at that
Speaker 3: wildcard race. How tight it is now there they're in
Speaker 3: the last wildcard spot. San Diego is only a game out.
Speaker 3: They've let Miami back in. They're a game and a
Speaker 3: half out. It's a very very tight wildcard race. And
Speaker 3: they haven't played well at home. They need to start
Speaker 3: playing well at home. They need to table take care
Speaker 3: of business in their house.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I don't think I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: No, it's Aaron Nola on Monday night, Jesus Lizardo on
Speaker 1: Tuesday night. Andrew Painter is scheduled to pitch on way Well.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they'll get a number five starter between
Speaker 1: now and Monday six pm, and maybe he gets bounced out,
Speaker 1: but there's no plan right now. It's he's going to
Speaker 1: pitch and then Thursday Jays, and then yeah, Christopher Sanchez
Speaker 1: and yeah so and then.
Speaker 3: On Friday night, Bag Night, Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jay Selly's gonna be inducted into the Wall of Fame,
Speaker 1: onto the Wall of Fame. Yeah, that'd be fun.
Speaker 2: That will be fun. And also on Saturday prior to that,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I guess that's Friday. You got the slug
Speaker 2: Ball All Star fest festivity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ruben, You've got a lot of guys, man, I mean,
Speaker 1: who do you off the top of your head? Can
Speaker 1: you rattle off a few you got?
Speaker 2: Well, we've got a bunch of guys that I play.
Speaker 2: I mean, uh, actually, I've got we got guys like
Speaker 2: Dominic Brown joining us. We've got Kevin Stocker, myself, Mickey
Speaker 2: Moore and Deini. Uh. We also have pictures. Aren't showing
Speaker 2: up Joe Blanton? I think is gonna show up? Uh okay,
Speaker 2: I've got to think about the rest of the guys.
Speaker 2: But there's a there's a bunch of gum I'm trying
Speaker 2: to get surprise guys there. Oh, there you go. I
Speaker 2: think Aaron Rowan's showing up. I'm trying to get some
Speaker 2: of the real big name guys, but I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if they'll be able to show up because they have
Speaker 2: other responsibilities. But yeah, it's a it's a really good
Speaker 2: group of guys, and it'll be a fun day over
Speaker 2: there in uh at University of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: Be good time join, that'll be a good time playstugball
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Speaker 2: My friends there you go.
Speaker 3: Excuse me?
Speaker 1: All right, so trade deadlight again six pm Eastern Monday.
Speaker 2: We will be back.
Speaker 1: We'll be back, I guess on Tuesday, right, if you know.
Speaker 3: I would think so.
Speaker 2: If they make a move, even if they don't make
Speaker 2: a movie, they don't make.
Speaker 1: A move, they don't make a move, then we definitely
Speaker 1: got to have a show breaking loose.
Speaker 3: They'll make a move just because they don't want to
Speaker 3: feel the wrath.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they definitely are.
Speaker 1: They got they got players to trade.
Speaker 2: They brought thirty people of them from the front office
Speaker 2: into Baltimore for a reason.
Speaker 1: Yes, they will make a trade. They will make a
Speaker 1: trade or two. We'll see what it is, all right, guys,
Speaker 1: we'll be back after the trade deadline.
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