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Speaker 1: This is instant game Reaction, an immediate look back at

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Speaker 1: the Colts' latest game and.

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Speaker 2: Trying to make it. Adjustment of the ball is by.

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Speaker 3: Gol Pepany catched it how he rubbles across the dolde

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Speaker 1: Airing out down Bill down the far sideline looking for

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Speaker 2: And it's intercepted by the Colts.

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Speaker 1: Please ahead, touchdown in d.

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Speaker 2: Why Now, here's your host, JJ Stankovitz from Colts dot com.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Everyone? Welcome into another episode of Instant Reaction

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Speaker 1: here on the Colts Audio Network. I'm Jjsankovitz, joined every

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Speaker 1: week by Colts Ring of Honor wide receiver Bill Brooks. Bill.

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Speaker 1: Today we are breaking down the colts thirty seven to

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Speaker 1: twenty loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars at Everbanks Stadium on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: The loss means the Jaguars swept the season series with

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Speaker 1: the Colts. They have a four and two record and

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Speaker 1: command of the AFC South. After today's game, we got

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Speaker 1: a lot to dig into about Gardner Minshew's day, some

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Speaker 1: things on defense, the turnover differential, and some other things

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Speaker 1: with the run game. Let's start though with Gardner Minshew. Bill.

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Speaker 1: He throws three interceptions, a new career high, uncharacteristically turns

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Speaker 1: the ball over four times. He also had a stripsack

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen got around the edge, knocked the ball out.

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Speaker 1: Angelo Blackson recovered for the Jaguars. They turned that into

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Speaker 1: a touchdown. I think when you define this game, Bill,

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Speaker 1: it's the Colts losing the turnover margin four to one,

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Speaker 1: and it starts with Garden Minshew having a day that,

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Speaker 1: when you look at the scope of his career, was

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Speaker 1: uncharacteristic for him.

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Speaker 3: Very uncharacteristic. Didn't expect Gardner to have fourth turnovers, throw

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Speaker 3: three interceptions, just did not expect that from him because

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Speaker 3: he's up to this point with the Colts, he's been

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Speaker 3: very good with the football, not turning the ball over,

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Speaker 3: getting the offense and positions to make plays and also

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Speaker 3: go down and score a point. But unfortunately today he

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Speaker 3: you know, threw a couple of interceptions. The ball seemed

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Speaker 3: got away from him and overthrown Pittman one time and

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Speaker 3: one time threw it into a coverage that looked like

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Speaker 3: somehow and one of them down threw the Pittman down

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Speaker 3: And then also of course the strip sack, you know,

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Speaker 3: of that. And they had seventeen points off those turnovers.

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Speaker 3: So that was big for Jacksonville Jaguars to get points

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Speaker 3: off of turnovers, and unfortunately for the Coats they couldn't

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Speaker 1: I mean, garden Minchew entered this game Bill having only

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Speaker 1: thrown multiple interceptions in a game three times in his career.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean you look at his numbers over

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Speaker 1: the course of his career and he's a guy who

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Speaker 1: didn't turn the ball over. That was one of his

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Speaker 1: calling cards. It seems like this was a like I

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Speaker 1: think we'll probably get to the end of the year

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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew because you look at even that game against

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. He didn't turn the ball over in that game,

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Speaker 1: the last game that he started, and for the most part,

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Speaker 1: it's not like he's been consistently even putting the ball

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Speaker 1: in Harm's way. That's what I think was so surprising

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Speaker 1: it came out of nowhere, Like that sequence that Gardner

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Speaker 1: he doesn't see Devin Lloyd sinking on it. Lloyd drops

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Speaker 1: the interception, and then the next play that's the one

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Speaker 1: all the accountability on him for those interceptions. As he said,

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Speaker 1: he put his teammates in a bad position, in an

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Speaker 3: I hope that's not the case, you know, I hope

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Speaker 3: this is, as you said, a blip on the screen,

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Speaker 3: right plays to run the offense. I mean, that's what

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Speaker 3: like you said, this is just a blip on the

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Speaker 1: Well, one thing, just to kind of drive this home,

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Speaker 1: Bill Gardner Minshew. Entering this game, his career interception percent

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Speaker 1: until proven otherwise, that's probably a one game blip. But

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Speaker 1: But the seventeen points, that's too many points the Jaguars

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Speaker 3: That's why, you know, people talk about how important turnovers are.

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Speaker 3: don't give an offense like the Jacksonville Jaguars, who is

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Speaker 3: So you have to be good in regards of not

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Speaker 3: the coach on fortunately couldn't get enough touchdowns. They got

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that first drive, Bill, you know you're kind of

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Speaker 1: The The other thing here, Bills, I was kind of

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Speaker 1: The Colts were not able to get the run game going.

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Speaker 1: You know, the stats obviously bed that out. Jonathan Taylor

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Speaker 1: after the game, Bill that the Jaguars were in base

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Speaker 1: So what that means is the Jaguars had four defensive

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Speaker 1: it may be that the Jaguars are playing in this game.

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Speaker 1: And usually when a team goes to eleven personnel, which

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Speaker 2: Yes, and.

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Speaker 1: I just have a couple of numbers on that bill.

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Speaker 1: But just like if you're out there as a player

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Speaker 1: what should the offensive mindset be in that situation? Knowing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you need to hopefully throw them out of

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Speaker 2: We can't do this.

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Speaker 3: We can't play these guys like this because they're just

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Speaker 3: Exactly when you when you when you're go out there playing,

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Speaker 3: Why should they change, Why should they do anything differently?

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Speaker 1: Right now, real quick, Bill, on the offense side of

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Speaker 3: if you get it from a five yard pass and

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Speaker 3: a thirty five yard rone or a forty yard pass,

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Speaker 3: to me, it's still a big play for the offense.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk defense, because this was such a

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Speaker 1: weird game for the defense. Again, you come out of

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Speaker 1: it and you're like, man, those numbers are pretty good.

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Speaker 1: But jag scored thirty seven and some of that was

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Speaker 1: again off of the turnovers. Ye, you know that the

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Speaker 1: goals had so you do need to keep that inn account.

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Speaker 1: But I thought this was really telling Bill. The Jaguars

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Speaker 1: had four drives that ended in a touchdown. On those plays,

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Speaker 1: they ran twelve on first down and averaged eight point

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Speaker 1: seven yards per play on first down. On the drives

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Speaker 1: in which the Jaguars did not score a touchdown, they

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Speaker 1: averaged three yards per play on first down. So when

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars got in advantageous situations on second down, and

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Speaker 1: because they gained a good chunk on first down, their

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Speaker 1: offense got rolling. When you got the Jaguars behind the

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Speaker 1: chains on second down, their offense petered out and usually

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Speaker 1: didn't generate anything unless it was you know, they got

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Speaker 1: the ball in Colts territory and turned it into a

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Speaker 1: field goal. That's what it came down to to me,

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Speaker 1: that the you know, the Jaguars had a couple drives

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Speaker 1: or they got they got things going. They're efficient on

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Speaker 1: first down, and that was kind of the difference there

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Speaker 1: for the Colts defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when you when you have an offense that's efficient

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Speaker 3: on first down and you really are aren't behind, you're

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Speaker 3: on schedule, so to speak, and you're not behind the change,

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Speaker 3: you pretty much have your whole playbook open to you,

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Speaker 3: so you can run almost anything you want. So it's

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Speaker 3: just a matter of, Okay, do we want to run

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Speaker 3: this play this time, or we want to run this

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Speaker 3: play this time. Oh no, we're gonna say this play

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Speaker 3: for the next time. And the next time you're in

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Speaker 3: second and two, second and one, or you're you know,

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Speaker 3: your third and one or third and a half a yard,

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Speaker 3: you pretty much could do what you want. And that's

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Speaker 3: what the Jacksonville Jaguars had that opportunity to do to

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Speaker 3: do what they want as far as an offensive standpoint,

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Speaker 3: as far as which players they want to run. And

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Speaker 3: when you do that, and when you have that success

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Speaker 3: on first down, it really puts the defense in the

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Speaker 3: buying because they know that, Okay, the opposing offense has

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Speaker 3: their whole playbook that they can use, so you still

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Speaker 3: have to really guess and not you know, not really

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Speaker 3: know exactly what they're going to do. Because if you

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Speaker 3: have them third and fourteen or third and ten, you

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Speaker 3: have an idea what they're gonna do, so you're gonna

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Speaker 3: set your defense accordingly to hopefully stop them. But when

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Speaker 3: you have second and one, the offense has their whole

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Speaker 3: playbook and they can pretty much dictate what they want

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Speaker 3: to do. And you know what, as you stated, the

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Speaker 3: Jacks Jacksonville Jaguars when they had second and one, second

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Speaker 3: and two were very successful on first down.

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Speaker 2: You know what, they scored. They've got points out of it.

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Speaker 1: You know, you look at some of the things that

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Speaker 1: Colts did on defense in this game, and I mean

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Speaker 1: Tenny more of the second and three tackles for a loss, Wow,

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Speaker 1: Sam Samson Ebacom had a sack that generally lost seventeen

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Speaker 1: yards on the plate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, late in the game.

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Speaker 1: He also had a TfL DeForrest Buckner at a sack

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Speaker 1: in the TfL. Taekwon Lewis had a sack in the TfL.

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Speaker 1: E J. Speed, Tavian Bryan, Julian Blackman, Shaquille. I thought

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Speaker 1: Shaquille Leonard had a really good game by the way,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of on first glance of you know,

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Speaker 1: need to go back and watch some stuff, but certainly

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Speaker 1: against the run, I thought he was really impactful. And

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Speaker 1: again you look at this and you're like, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of crazy. The Colts lost this game. Juju Brans gets

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Speaker 1: his first career interception, he has another, you know, another

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Speaker 1: pass breakup in there. I thought he played a really

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Speaker 1: physical game on the outside, kind of a Colts needed there,

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Speaker 1: and you're just kind of left, like, ultimately, this defense

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Speaker 1: did give up thirty seven points, and again, not all

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Speaker 1: of it's fair, a lot of it's sudden change stuff,

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Speaker 1: but that's a lot of points, and you leave this

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Speaker 1: game feeling like they didn't play as bad thirty seven

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Speaker 1: points would suggest, though.

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Speaker 3: I agree, and you know what, let's okay, the turnouts

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Speaker 3: led to seventeen points. But as a defense and the

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Speaker 3: defense defensive player. I'm sure they're saying, you know what,

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Speaker 3: when we're on the field, our job is to stop

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Speaker 3: the opponent, no matter where they have the ball at,

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Speaker 3: no matter if the offense turns over the ball or not.

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Speaker 3: We have to stop the opponent. So in that sense, yes,

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Speaker 3: they give up thirty seven points. But there are some

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Speaker 3: things out there that you saw that you like. You know,

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Speaker 3: I like Juju Brent's toughness, his physicalness out there playing

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Speaker 3: I should say it physicality and his physicalness, his physicality

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Speaker 3: out there in the football field and what he did,

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Speaker 3: So give him credit. I thought, like you said, I

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Speaker 3: have to watch the film, but it looked like Shaq

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Speaker 3: was around the ball, you know, making plays again, you know,

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Speaker 3: had seven tackles, So give him credit for that. You know,

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Speaker 3: I think Ebacon did a nice job, had a sack.

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Speaker 3: So give those guys credit for going out there playing

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Speaker 3: playing hard to Forrest Buckner has a sack. But there

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Speaker 3: are times out there where you know, unfortunately they couldn't

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Speaker 3: get off the field, you know, especially on that first drive.

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville went down the field and scored and it made

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Speaker 2: some play. So Jacksonville is a good football team.

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Speaker 3: They're They're a team that is very good have. They

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Speaker 3: have a lot of talent at the skill position. They

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Speaker 3: played well, but you know what I thought the defense did.

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Speaker 3: They played well at times, but it wasn't enough against

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Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Jaguars. And you know, for this team to

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Speaker 3: win games and to be at the level they want

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Speaker 3: to be at, they're going to have to do a

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Speaker 3: better job, of course, all the way around, offensively, defensively,

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Speaker 3: special teams, and play good complimentary football, which unfortunately didn't

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Speaker 3: happen today.

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Speaker 1: Real quick, Bill, Before we get on here, we should

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Speaker 1: note I mentioned Juju. Brent's got his first career interception.

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Speaker 1: Josh Downs got his first career touchdown. Really nice route

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Speaker 1: that he ran to beat Monterrek Brown in the end zone.

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Speaker 1: I thought this is interesting. After the game, I talked

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Speaker 1: to both of them just about it. You know, what

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Speaker 1: does it mean to you? And I was talking to Juju,

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Speaker 1: and Juju just kind of oscillated in his mind between

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Speaker 1: like this is a big accomplishment, but hey, we lost

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Speaker 1: this game by seventeen points. Like you know, it was

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Speaker 1: kind of eating at him. And I want to ask

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Speaker 1: you this, Bill, because I know your first career touchdown

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Speaker 1: came at the end of a twenty six to seven

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Speaker 1: loss to the New York Jets. M h, I pulled

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Speaker 1: it up here. You caught a pass from Jack Trudeau

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Speaker 1: at the end of a pretty significant loss to the Jets. Like,

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Speaker 1: how did you digest that after that game? Like, here's

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Speaker 1: this incredible career accomplishment for you, your first career touchdown,

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Speaker 1: but we lost this game and it wasn't pretty Like

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Speaker 1: how did you how did you digest that personally? After

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Speaker 1: the game?

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Speaker 2: The beyondes with you. JJ it.

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Speaker 3: You know, it was a touchdown, but it didn't feel

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Speaker 3: good because we lost. I mean, I know it was

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Speaker 3: at the end of the game. It was it really

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Speaker 3: it didn't help the team as far as in regards

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Speaker 3: of winning the football game because we lost the game.

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Speaker 3: So it didn't mean a lot to me as far

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Speaker 3: as catching a touchdown pass. Yes, I did catch a

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Speaker 3: touchdown pass because at the time I was doing my assignment,

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Speaker 3: it was a play that was called. The game was

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Speaker 3: still going on, still have time on the clock to

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Speaker 3: go out and play, so I want to play the

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Speaker 3: whole sixty minutes, and so I went out there and

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Speaker 3: played and try to make a play. We scored a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: To me, it didn't mean a lot that I scored

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Speaker 3: because we lost the game. The touchdowns I scored when

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Speaker 3: we won games, yes, that makes me feel a lot

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Speaker 3: better because we as a team we won the game.

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Speaker 3: And you know, for these young guys scoring, yes, it's

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Speaker 3: nice that they go out there and score, but the

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Speaker 3: bottom line is you want to win the game, you know.

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Speaker 3: And Shaneiken talks about his team team, first team, first

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Speaker 3: team first So you know what if the team we're

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Speaker 3: not winning, it's nice. Maybe years later when you retired

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Speaker 3: and you finished playing the sport, you can look back

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Speaker 3: on it and say, no, that was my first touchdown

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Speaker 3: because Juju Brins could say, you know what, that was

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Speaker 3: my first interception against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Josh down my

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Speaker 3: first touchdown against the Jacksonville Jaguars in Jacksonville. But the

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Speaker 3: bottom line is, unfortunately the team loss, and that's what

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Speaker 3: you're that's what you're trying to go out there to

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Speaker 3: do is win football games. And when you don't, it just, uh,

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Speaker 3: it leaves a bad taste in your mouth. Regardless for me,

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Speaker 3: regardless if you score a touchdown or not, it's.

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Speaker 1: Really good perspective there and you know that's kind of

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Speaker 1: the vibe I got, you know, just talking to those

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Speaker 1: guys of like it. You know, it sucks we lost.

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Speaker 1: We lost by seventeen, like and you know, especially neither

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Speaker 1: of those guys really wanted to celebrate it. The only

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Speaker 1: thing that kind of got in both the per Cup though, Bill,

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Speaker 1: was when I brought up the other guy. I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that was pretty cool, Like, you know, Juju,

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Speaker 1: you your first career pick, like three play, Josh got

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Speaker 1: his first gre A touchdown, and they both are super

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Speaker 1: happy for each other. You know, need to see them

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Speaker 1: kind of holding up the twenty twenty three rookie class

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Speaker 1: while Anthony Richardson is out, you know for this game

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Speaker 1: and then obviously for the next couple of games. All Right,

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Speaker 1: well that is gonna do it for us here on

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Speaker 1: this episode of Instant Reaction here in the Colts Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: This week got a lot to get to on the

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Speaker 1: Colts Audio Network. Colts Roundtable Live will be out on Monday,

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Speaker 1: Matt Taylor hosting that. He'll be joined by head coach

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Speaker 1: Shane Steichen, as well as Rick Venturi and Joe Wrights.

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Speaker 1: Looking back at the Colts Week six loss to the Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: The Official Cults Podcast is back on Tuesday. That'll also

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Speaker 1: be on YouTube with Jeffrey Gorman, Larra Overton, and myself

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Speaker 1: talking about this game what it means in the bigger picture.

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Speaker 1: We'll turn the page to the Cleveland Browns in week seven,

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Speaker 1: starting on Wednesday with Inside Football Rick Ventury Blueprints to

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Speaker 1: beat the Browns. That'll be out on Wednesday here in

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Speaker 1: the coult Satdoy Network. Thursday, Bill you will be joined

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Speaker 1: by Casey Valier and Matt Taylor for a preview of

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Speaker 1: Colts Brown's and a look ahead at that game. The

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Speaker 1: Colts gonna be wearing their Indiana Nights jerseys next week,

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Speaker 1: Bill black House as.

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Speaker 3: Time, looking forward to thee yes, looking forward to that

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Speaker 3: that should be, it should be, It should be nice

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Speaker 3: in Lucas Oil Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Brown said could have win today too, by the way,

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Speaker 1: beating the San Francisco forty nine ers with p J.

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Speaker 1: Walker stepping in. That's a heck of a heck of

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Speaker 1: a win for Cleveland. There. We'll have plenty of time

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Speaker 1: to dig into that and dig into next week's Colts

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Speaker 1: Brown's matchup here on the Colts Audio Network. Anyways, for

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Speaker 1: Bill Brooks. I'm JJ Sankovitz. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: listening to this episode of Instant Reaction. Bill and I

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Speaker 1: will be back next Sunday night, talking Colts and brown.

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Speaker 1: See you then,