Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the cycle. I am Ryan Warmley joined.
Speaker 1: I would say, as always, it's been a few weeks,
Speaker 1: but I'm joined today, certainly by Mike Mayor. We did
Speaker 1: not do a show last week. I was off on vacation.
Speaker 1: I was actually traveling from Delaware to New Hampshire on
Speaker 1: the day that we were going to record last week,
Speaker 1: so I was out. You had some stuff going on yourself,
Speaker 1: so you ended up not able to record the last second,
Speaker 1: so we did not have a show. Sorry to those
Speaker 1: who were waiting and wondering and who we did not
Speaker 1: warn that we would be taking a week off, but
Speaker 1: that is what ended up happening last week, so apologies
Speaker 1: for that. I of course was gone the week prior
Speaker 1: as I was starting that vacation as well, So it's
Speaker 1: been a few weeks because the week prior to that
Speaker 1: you were not here. So coming up on basically a
Speaker 1: month since it's been the two of us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely not entirely but mostly my fault that
Speaker 2: we didn't have a show last week. We had, you know,
Speaker 2: like you were out, Kelly had some some stuff to
Speaker 2: deal with, and then we were actually going to have
Speaker 2: Welsh fill in and so then we ended up pushing
Speaker 2: the show back to Friday. But then I had some issues.
Speaker 2: You know, I was out two weeks ago for a
Speaker 2: medical procedure and I had some complications from that said
Speaker 2: procedure and was not physically able to do the show
Speaker 2: last week. So was not planned. Apologies for missing it,
Speaker 2: but you know, not something we were intending to do.
Speaker 2: It just kind of just kind of all fell apart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are back now. I told you that I
Speaker 1: watched very little baseball on this vacation. The one baseball
Speaker 1: I did watch was I was gifted front row seats
Speaker 1: atop the Green Monster for Red Sox game, which was bonkers.
Speaker 1: I had never been on the Monster before. I had
Speaker 1: been to Fenway once, but I was sitting in like
Speaker 1: the foul section, like in deep right field, like way
Speaker 1: under the row above us, like really really terrible seats.
Speaker 1: This was a very different experience at Fenway. This was
Speaker 1: again front row the Monster. My friend who I was
Speaker 1: visiting up in New Hampshire, his company does some you know,
Speaker 1: work with Fenway, and he reached out, like as a sponsor,
Speaker 1: and he reached out and was like, hey, I got
Speaker 1: a buddy in town. He's not even a big baseball fan.
Speaker 1: He was like, I got a buddy in town. He
Speaker 1: loves baseball. Do we have any tickets if we want
Speaker 1: to try to go to the game. It was a
Speaker 1: Friday night, beautiful night again Yankees, Red Sox, so you
Speaker 1: would think like really like, you know, highly sought after tickets,
Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, we've got four for you didn't
Speaker 1: even tell them where they were. Turns out there were
Speaker 1: a front row of the monster, so wild experience, very
Speaker 1: very cool. I'm very grateful for that experience. And we
Speaker 1: saw Aera judge hit a ball probably five hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy feet. I mean, I know technically it was like
Speaker 1: four sixty or something, but he obliterated the ball off
Speaker 1: of Garrett Crochet. So that's fun to watch. But yeah,
Speaker 1: very cool experience. I know as a Red Sox guy,
Speaker 1: you were probably jealous.
Speaker 2: Yeah I was jealous. I've been. I've been where you
Speaker 2: took the picture from, but not for a game. I
Speaker 2: went on like a tour and got to go up
Speaker 2: there and like see the view from up there as
Speaker 2: very cool. I also found out it wasn't my first
Speaker 2: game at Fenway, but one of the when I was
Speaker 2: like an adult, I like bought tickets. I found out
Speaker 2: the hardware that they still sell obstructive view seats and
Speaker 2: they're real and you actually can't see the field from
Speaker 2: like as you're like behind a pillar. So like if
Speaker 2: you buy that seat, you might as well just not
Speaker 2: sit in it and like walk around because you literally
Speaker 2: can't see the field from it.
Speaker 1: It was very close to those seats that I sat
Speaker 1: in the first time. I was at Fenway, where I
Speaker 1: was going for as cheap as I can, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to go to every stadium. I'm at fifteen
Speaker 1: of them now. And my buddy and I were, you know,
Speaker 1: crossing Fenway off the list a few years ago, and
Speaker 1: so we went as cheap as we could, and it
Speaker 1: was it was borderline obstructive view. So that wasn't great.
Speaker 1: All right, enough about that, we will go ahead and
Speaker 1: dive into riding the bases here.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: It's kind of funny because I said to you, hey,
Speaker 1: do you want to do our usual bit where I,
Speaker 1: you know, come back from vacation. I tend to go
Speaker 1: pretty off the grid when I when I'm off, I
Speaker 1: try not to be you know, keeping up with work
Speaker 1: or anything. And so I enjoy when you kind of
Speaker 1: catch me up on everything I missed, and you know,
Speaker 1: coming in kind of with maybe a little less you know,
Speaker 1: knowledge and research than usual. And you said maybe, and
Speaker 1: then all of your topics in in the show sheet
Speaker 1: are Worm is going to try and guess this picture
Speaker 1: based on his stats or real or not real for
Speaker 1: these recent breakouts. And I'm like, I just told you
Speaker 1: I haven't watched baseball in two weeks, and you're forcing
Speaker 1: me to really shoot from the hip here. So we'll
Speaker 1: see how this segment goes. I hope everybody appreciates it. Nonetheless,
Speaker 1: let's dive into the first one, which is you've labeled
Speaker 1: is this mystery picture? Legit mayor will provide stats for
Speaker 1: Worm to try to guess this picture.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was gonna put the stats in the sheet,
Speaker 2: but I didn't want you cheating. I'm looking up beforehand,
Speaker 2: so I put the stats elsewhere.
Speaker 1: What do you take me for? Okay, I don't take
Speaker 1: this seriously enough to cheat to try to win.
Speaker 2: Well, you've already been lobbying, you know, internally we have
Speaker 2: an ice cream bracket going. You've already been like lobbying
Speaker 2: for your picks to try and win. You tried to
Speaker 2: get what is it, Moose Tracks all the way to
Speaker 2: the finals.
Speaker 1: I tried to get more. Okay, you frame it like
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get it to the finals. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get it past drumsticks, which are not even an
Speaker 1: ice cream. They're like a novelty treat that aren't even
Speaker 1: that good. So yes, it's not like I've been trying
Speaker 1: to like bribe the voters to get Moose Tracks all
Speaker 1: the way to the championship just because I like it.
Speaker 1: I just think it should have beaten drumsticks.
Speaker 2: For those interested, the championship matchup is chocolate chip cookie
Speaker 2: dough versus drumsticks.
Speaker 1: I wasn't even gonna bring this up because I think
Speaker 1: it's such a travesty that drumsticks are in there.
Speaker 2: It's a travesty that we eliminated one of the Vanilla's.
Speaker 2: We had Vanilla, Vanilla, Bean and French Vanilla, and we decided.
Speaker 1: That that was a travesty that in a thirty two
Speaker 1: censorship three of them were Vanilla's and we had no
Speaker 1: cookies and cream to start, which thankfully we snuck in
Speaker 1: there later and they made it to the to the
Speaker 1: final four. So deserving, deserving fit. I mean, chocolate chip
Speaker 1: cookie dough isn't my top choice, but it's good. Like
Speaker 1: if it wins, which I hope it will at this
Speaker 1: point facing drumstick, that'll be a very deserving flavor. I
Speaker 1: think everybody let us know in the comments what ice
Speaker 1: cream flavor you woul vote for, whether it's a classic one.
Speaker 1: It could even be something simple like just plain chocolate,
Speaker 1: or maybe a more unique one like an interesting Ben
Speaker 1: and Jerry's flavor, or you know, something unique to your
Speaker 1: hometown ice cream shop. Let us know your favorite iceam
Speaker 1: flavor in the comments.
Speaker 2: Or your favorite ice cream to watch a baseball game with,
Speaker 2: probably just playing vanilla out.
Speaker 1: I do love summer Day. You can't see it right now,
Speaker 1: and I promise we'll get to the show in a second.
Speaker 1: You can't see it right now. I know people could
Speaker 1: just skip ahead on YouTube. It's fine if they don't
Speaker 1: care about this, but we have I have this background
Speaker 1: behind me, but normally you can see I have ice
Speaker 1: cream helmet Sundays from every ballpark. I'm missing three of them,
Speaker 1: but there were a lot of them. Were collected by
Speaker 1: my mom when she was growing up, and then kind
Speaker 1: of passed them down to me, and I've tried to
Speaker 1: add to the collection to round it out and get
Speaker 1: all thirty I think I'm missing. It's like the Rays,
Speaker 1: the White Sox and whatever other. I can't remember the
Speaker 1: third one I'm missing. But we're we're we're whiddling away
Speaker 1: at it. That's half the reason I moved to Denver
Speaker 1: with so I could get the Rockies off the list.
Speaker 2: Well, that's all of a reason. All right, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring you this this picture. Do you want
Speaker 2: to like guess after like every stat or how do
Speaker 2: you want to do it?
Speaker 1: I think it's very unlikely I get this right at
Speaker 1: any point, so I would say, give me, give me
Speaker 1: every two stats, I'll guess.
Speaker 2: All right, And I have the clues kind of set
Speaker 2: up in a way that, like, I'll make it more
Speaker 2: and more obvious as we get closer, Like, Okay, this
Speaker 2: person's name is so is this is this mystery picture? Legit?
Speaker 2: He has a one point eight four e r A
Speaker 2: and earlier in June he threw a complete game shutout.
Speaker 1: I think I might actually know who it is on
Speaker 1: the first round of clues. Is it Andrew Abbott?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a comple game shutout he did throw
Speaker 1: on It was in June, right, I thought that was
Speaker 1: a good guess that.
Speaker 2: If you have another clip, well I lied because it
Speaker 2: is Andrew Emit. That's I just lost all a little.
Speaker 1: Bit, all right. I can't think of it many other
Speaker 1: complete game shoutouts, at least at the top of my head.
Speaker 1: That happened in June.
Speaker 2: So well, you're you sold yourself short. And I was
Speaker 2: gonna I was going to go through many other stats
Speaker 2: and you got to, you know, pretty early. I was
Speaker 2: going to go through his CA percentage, really low whip.
Speaker 2: Then I was going to start getting more more obvious.
Speaker 2: He's a lefty, he has a six and one record,
Speaker 2: he just turned twenty six. He pitches in the NL
Speaker 2: Central and then get all the way to he's a lefty,
Speaker 2: pitches for the Reds, and make.
Speaker 1: More obvious his name is alliterative. The shutout, I think
Speaker 1: is a much more obvious clue than those other ones.
Speaker 1: I think that was a mistake, but like I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have gotten it based on his CA percentage or having
Speaker 1: six wins or anything that the shutout I think was
Speaker 1: it was an obvious clue, but go great job by
Speaker 1: you now. Really, I know, I clearly I've been watching
Speaker 1: a lot of baseball. Yeah, you know, ab It's interesting
Speaker 1: because he was somebody that I was interested in it
Speaker 1: times last year, and then maybe it wasn't as good
Speaker 1: after I invested in him. But yeah, he's been on
Speaker 1: like a really good stretch. I mean, he's been really
Speaker 1: been good this whole year. And to answer your question
Speaker 1: if he's legit or not, I think he's I would
Speaker 1: phrase it. And this is the way I sometimes think
Speaker 1: of questions like this, is he's legit enough, right, Like
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's gonna you know the ideo
Speaker 1: for hun complete game shoutouts right and left, right, But
Speaker 1: I think he's legit enough to want to like have him,
Speaker 1: And I would be interested in trading for him if
Speaker 1: he was available and the price was right to be
Speaker 1: starting him like he's legit enough to trust for now.
Speaker 2: That's an interesting way to phrase it. I wonder, let
Speaker 2: me pull up the trade value chart, although I didn't
Speaker 2: do it yet for this week, but I wonder who
Speaker 2: you'd be willing to trade for him?
Speaker 1: And by the way, by the way, I do recognize
Speaker 1: but he had a downstart coming off of that shutout,
Speaker 1: so it's and and also the start before the shoutout,
Speaker 1: he wasn't very good, so it's not like he's just
Speaker 1: been right and left like amazing. But again good good
Speaker 1: enough for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, although his most recent start it was five runs,
Speaker 2: but only one of them was earned, so it was
Speaker 2: kind of a weird a weird start. But before the
Speaker 2: shoutout there were five ron runs.
Speaker 1: I always I always kind of roll my eyes a
Speaker 1: little bit, like if it's like one extra run compared
Speaker 1: to the earned runs, then yeah, like you know it's
Speaker 1: fair and not hold it against him, Like he's still
Speaker 1: allowed a three run home run, Like I recognized that
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have needed to get to that batter if
Speaker 1: not for the error, and that's why it doesn't count
Speaker 1: as an earned run. So yes, that's like a legitimate thing.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying the stat should be different, but like
Speaker 1: I think in evaluating him as a pitcher moving forward,
Speaker 1: like he still threw a pitch that resulted in three
Speaker 1: runs being scored even if he in an ideal like
Speaker 1: defending you know, fielding scenario wouldn't have had to throw
Speaker 1: that pitch.
Speaker 2: I think error, Like how unearned runs are calculated is
Speaker 2: another thing we could have talked about when we did
Speaker 2: are like what do we want to ban in baseball
Speaker 2: kind of segment because I do think errors could be
Speaker 2: more subjective, subjective for like earned runs and stuff, because.
Speaker 1: Somebody I would be fine if I would be fine
Speaker 1: if if the earned runs were the guy who got
Speaker 1: on is an unearned run, but the other runs that
Speaker 1: scored still are earned because you would have had to
Speaker 1: face those batters. Eventually, I get that there's a lot
Speaker 1: of like logical fallacies with that argument. This is just
Speaker 1: me off the cuff, like thinking about a good fix.
Speaker 1: So I recognize that that's not a fully fleshed out thought.
Speaker 1: But again, like he allowed that home run, Like to me,
Speaker 1: that's still worth considering and in evaluating his performance.
Speaker 2: Well, there's also like if it's if it would have
Speaker 2: been the third out of an inning and then you
Speaker 2: give up eight more runs, those eight runs are all unearned,
Speaker 2: and that's kind of you know, again, you wouldn't have
Speaker 2: had to face those guys, but like you probably would
Speaker 2: have been next inning anyway.
Speaker 1: So yeah, or I mean maybe if it was the
Speaker 1: last inning of your outing, like you would have been
Speaker 1: pulled the next sitting Like again, you can get into
Speaker 1: a lot of like kind of back and forth about it, but.
Speaker 2: I guess that's all we got. Anything else on Andrew Rabbit.
Speaker 1: Well, what was your thought? Yeah, I legit to you.
Speaker 2: I think he's he's like, similar to what you said,
Speaker 2: like legit enough. I would say, he's like in between
Speaker 2: like legit and not legit. He's like good enough.
Speaker 1: You know he would you be interested in training for him?
Speaker 2: Depends. I pulled up the trade value chart to see
Speaker 2: what I would want to give up and kind of
Speaker 2: like in that range of what he would be worth.
Speaker 2: Reyese Hoskins is kind of in that range if I
Speaker 2: needed a hit her. I don't know that I would like.
Speaker 2: I feel like he's more like the kind of player
Speaker 2: like if I have him, I'm going to keep him
Speaker 2: or so high. I don't know that I'm like really
Speaker 2: interested in like going out and acquiring him just because
Speaker 2: he one A four era. His whip is really good.
Speaker 2: His expected numbers are all over the place. Two point
Speaker 2: nine two x CRA, three point nine two FIP and
Speaker 2: then the Sierra or x FIP and then the Sierra
Speaker 2: and FIP or in between there. His that gas page
Speaker 2: is pretty solid. You know, you always say like red
Speaker 2: as good, blue as bad. He doesn't throw like a
Speaker 2: big fastball, doesn't have a good ground ball rate, which
Speaker 2: could come back to haunt him where he pitches, but
Speaker 2: he has like a really good he's like really good
Speaker 2: at avoiding hard contact, even though like his it's kind
Speaker 2: of weird. His hard hit percentage is eighty eight percent
Speaker 2: of but his barrel percentage is like forty percent of.
Speaker 2: But he's always like getting barreled but not very hard
Speaker 2: kind of a thing, or at least like getting you know,
Speaker 2: like hard hits barrel rates. It's you know, kind of
Speaker 2: subjective for the stats, but like, other than that, like
Speaker 2: everything looks really solid. And he throws his fastball almost
Speaker 2: fifty percent of the time despite not having like a
Speaker 2: big fastball, which is also a little weird. Like he
Speaker 2: throws a ninety two mile an hour fastball fifty percent
Speaker 2: of the time. That doesn't sound like a pitcher you
Speaker 2: would normally think is like has these great numbers, but
Speaker 2: he just you know, he locates it. Like batters are
Speaker 2: only hitting two hundred against it with an expected batting
Speaker 2: average of one ninety. So he's doing something with his fastball.
Speaker 2: That's you know, working for him, and so like I
Speaker 2: feel like he's legit, but also like he worries me.
Speaker 2: It seems like he has to kind of profile that
Speaker 2: like if one thing changes like this could all unravel
Speaker 2: very quickly.
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I think I would be very
Speaker 1: open to moving off him if it gets to that point,
Speaker 1: Like like, I'm not going to be digging my heels
Speaker 1: in and say, oh, he had three bad starts in
Speaker 1: a row. I'm still blind faith like you know, starting
Speaker 1: him regardless, But right now I'd be happy to, you know,
Speaker 1: I Like I said, I think he's legit enough at
Speaker 1: least for the time being. So that's that's kind of
Speaker 1: how I think about Andrew Abbott. We are now giving
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Speaker 1: what would say is the coolest jersey you own?
Speaker 2: Coolest jersey I own?
Speaker 1: We'll say baseball jersey.
Speaker 2: I say baseball. I have some really weird football jerseys.
Speaker 2: I talked about that on other shows. I don't have
Speaker 2: a ton of baseball jerseys. I do have. I mean
Speaker 2: I have a bunch of signed things, but the cool
Speaker 2: the coolest one that I have that I would wear.
Speaker 2: I have a a roy Holiday Phillies jersey. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: I like that one.
Speaker 1: It's pretty good. I'm collecting one one jersey from each team.
Speaker 1: I've got like twenty five of them. I'm almost done,
Speaker 1: actually all right, My Tigers one is Hank Greenberg. So
Speaker 1: I'm not that interested in the cecil fielder. I try
Speaker 1: to get like a hall of Famer for each team.
Speaker 1: But some teams don't have a Hall of Famer. And
Speaker 1: so when I started this project, like over which teams
Speaker 1: don't have a hall of Fame, Well, like the Rays
Speaker 1: don't have one. I mean they have they have, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: or at least like if they have a Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: it's like they're you know, you know, I try to
Speaker 1: get players that are like this is like a life
Speaker 1: for like the like Evan Longoria for the race if
Speaker 1: he was you know, good enough to be in a
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer instead of all of very good type
Speaker 1: of but I mean, I'm you know, a guy that
Speaker 1: it's like you really associate with that franchise. So like
Speaker 1: the first one I got was like Jackie Robinson or
Speaker 1: you know, like try to get like real legends, but
Speaker 1: some of them like didn't really have an obvious name
Speaker 1: when I started this project, so I had to kind
Speaker 1: of like project out. So I got like Josh Johnson
Speaker 1: Marlin's jersey because I was at the time, I was like,
Speaker 1: he's really good, and I'm trying to you know, make
Speaker 1: a guess here, or you know, I think I did.
Speaker 1: I did get a Longoria. I got like like a
Speaker 1: Tilowitzki Rockies, which isn't terrible, but like, I think I
Speaker 1: can do better. Some of them obviously were easy, like
Speaker 1: you know, I got like Ted Williams for my Red
Speaker 1: Sox one or Lou Garrig or you know, stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But I do love collecting jerseys, so so that's a fielder.
Speaker 1: Go ahead and comment on the video and make sure
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Speaker 1: to our second topic here, real or not real. You
Speaker 1: added some names here, which again I am not happy
Speaker 1: about because I told you I watched very little baseball
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. But we'll see how this goes.
Speaker 2: Start us off, well, I'll give you the names and
Speaker 2: some contexts and some stats and stuff. Also, I was
Speaker 2: gonna say when I was hosting two weeks ago, I'm
Speaker 2: actually the keeper of these jerseys, and so I have
Speaker 2: it right here in my house. I don't have it
Speaker 2: right next to me like I did last time, but
Speaker 2: I last time I held it up showed it to
Speaker 2: people on YouTube. But it is a real jersey. It's
Speaker 2: in my house, and I'll be the one mailing it
Speaker 2: to you. So Andy Pajez Andrew Paper. He I just
Speaker 2: made that up.
Speaker 1: Great, right, I think it's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, he like he's someone I picked up earlier
Speaker 2: in the year just to like stream an outfielder, and
Speaker 2: it's just kind of never dropped him. I forgot to.
Speaker 2: I did that with last year too. I think it
Speaker 2: was Mark Vientos last year who's like not doing as
Speaker 2: well this year. But I was just kind of expecting
Speaker 2: like a decent batting average and maybe a little bit
Speaker 2: of pop, and like I wasn't sure how much he
Speaker 2: was going to play in that Dodgers outfielder, and he
Speaker 2: continues to look really good despite I can't I mean,
Speaker 2: the Dodgers lineup is so deep that I keep hoping
Speaker 2: he's going to like bump up to like fourth, fifth
Speaker 2: in the lineup instead of like six seven, which I
Speaker 2: think he does kind of move up against lefties. But
Speaker 2: for the season, he's batting two ninety four with fifteen
Speaker 2: home runs and six dolen bases, which is kind of
Speaker 2: a pleasant surprise since he hasn't, like he's always been
Speaker 2: known as someone who can run a little bit, but
Speaker 2: not he hasn't like run a ton, so to have
Speaker 2: six already through seventy one games, it's kind of like
Speaker 2: a nice little bonus. And then even better, through sixteen
Speaker 2: games in June, he's betting three sixty one with another
Speaker 2: five home runs, hasn't stolen a base in June. But
Speaker 2: he's just he's not slowing down. He's actually heating up,
Speaker 2: and it's very interesting. I don't know how often this happens,
Speaker 2: but he has a batting average of two ninety four
Speaker 2: and an expected batting average of two ninety four, the
Speaker 2: exact same number. And so I feel like all year
Speaker 2: I've just kind of waited for him to cool off,
Speaker 2: and he just keeps producing and like getting better and
Speaker 2: outproducing a lot of other people in that Dodgers's lineup,
Speaker 2: And I don't think he's coming out of that lineup
Speaker 2: anytime soon.
Speaker 1: What do you think, Well, it's a tricky one for
Speaker 1: real or not real, because like I think he's real,
Speaker 1: almost like Andrew Abbit, like real enough, right, Like I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to get out from the Andy. PA has business,
Speaker 1: but I don't trust the power. Like having fifteen home
Speaker 1: runs already this season, I don't think that's reflective of
Speaker 1: where he'll end up. And his average eggs of Velocity's
Speaker 1: thirty six percentile, hard hit rates twenty seven percentile, barrel
Speaker 1: rate is forty eight percentile. He's chasing a lot. His
Speaker 1: chase rates pretty high, but his strikeout rate isn't. His
Speaker 1: striker rate's actually down pretty significantly from last year. It's
Speaker 1: twenty four point four percent last year to seventeen point
Speaker 1: eight percent this year. It's pretty low. His his walk
Speaker 1: rate's also pretty low, so he's just swinging a lot
Speaker 1: in general, but the expected batting average is still pretty high.
Speaker 1: Like it's it's it actually is. His batting average to
Speaker 1: ninety four, which is also expected batting average. So I
Speaker 1: think the home runs will slow, but I think the
Speaker 1: worthiness of playing and like he's gonna he's a good fielder,
Speaker 1: like gonna get at bats in a good lineup, like
Speaker 1: moving forward. I think it is all real.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I lean, so what if we had to do it?
Speaker 2: I think we did this in the past on like
Speaker 2: a scale of like the survey scale of like strongly agree, agree,
Speaker 2: neutral disagree, strongly disagree, So like Andy Pai has real
Speaker 2: or not real strongly agree to strongly disagree, where are
Speaker 2: you on the scale?
Speaker 1: I think I'd say agree, like if the agree is
Speaker 1: the real side of it of the scale, and yeah,
Speaker 1: then I would say not strongly agree, but agree.
Speaker 2: That's where I'm at too. I'm not like over the
Speaker 2: moon with him, but I'm like pleasantly surprised of what
Speaker 2: we're getting. And I don't see any real reason that
Speaker 2: it's going to that's gonna change anytime soon. And his
Speaker 2: he does swing a lot, his z swing percentage is
Speaker 2: seventy percent is outside the zone or not in the
Speaker 2: zone swing percentage, and then his outside is what the
Speaker 2: zone is thirty five percent, which is his career is
Speaker 2: thirty two percent. Obviously like not a huge track record
Speaker 2: because he had a lot of time in the minors,
Speaker 2: but last year was thirty percent. Now it's up five
Speaker 2: percent this year, so he is just swinging more in general.
Speaker 2: But he does swing a lot at stuff that's in
Speaker 2: the uh in the strike zone, which you know, that's good.
Speaker 1: You've got too many names on this list to spend
Speaker 1: this much time on each one of them. So let's
Speaker 1: go to the next door.
Speaker 2: Uh, well do you want me to I don't. I
Speaker 2: just read him off and we can just kind of
Speaker 2: hit where we want to hit.
Speaker 1: Okay, so real or not real?
Speaker 2: So we started with Andy pay Has and then we
Speaker 2: have Noah Cameron, Addison Barger, David Peterson, Quinn Priester, and
Speaker 2: then Hunter Goodman.
Speaker 1: And I do want to start with this, this second
Speaker 1: name that you have on the list, Noah Cameron, because
Speaker 1: I find him really interesting. What do you say about
Speaker 1: camera real or no real?
Speaker 2: I I've won some money betting on him recently, so
Speaker 2: that inclines me to believe he's real because he has
Speaker 2: won me real money, but he's also one of those
Speaker 2: the strikeout He doesn't have a high strikeout rate, and
Speaker 2: it's just it's a pretty small sample size and all
Speaker 2: the expected numbers say that it's much worse than what
Speaker 2: we're actually seeing, which would tend me to believe that
Speaker 2: it's not real, even though when I like, I've watched
Speaker 2: him pitch and he like he there's no real way
Speaker 2: to like quantify it, but like he like feels like
Speaker 2: he pitches like a pitcher, Like he like he kind
Speaker 2: of like knows what he's doing, and it's not just
Speaker 2: like like there are like pitchers who are throwers and
Speaker 2: they just go up there and they have like elite
Speaker 2: stuff and they just kind of get away with it.
Speaker 2: He to me looks more like a pitcher who's pitching
Speaker 2: and is just kind of like getting away with like,
Speaker 2: you know, like the savviness of pitching, which is which
Speaker 2: can kind of come out in expected stats, where like
Speaker 2: you know, expected stats doesn't really respect that, you know,
Speaker 2: it's just it just respects like the kind of contact
Speaker 2: you're getting and how lucky you are and that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. But in May one point four ERA through
Speaker 2: nineteen innings in May June is coming back down a
Speaker 2: little bit to earth, which is closer to his expected
Speaker 2: number three point two four ERA and sixteen and two
Speaker 2: thirds innings, but again really small sample sizes, and even
Speaker 2: even with that three point two four ERA, that comes
Speaker 2: with the two thirteen average against, which is still really good,
Speaker 2: and overall through the first half a one point one
Speaker 2: point seven to two average against, which is obviously elite,
Speaker 2: but the strikeout rate is below twenty percent. The K
Speaker 2: per nine is six point eight, which is like, it's
Speaker 2: not even like blow average is bad, and those are
Speaker 2: the kind of pictures who tend to get unlucky. Even
Speaker 2: though his whip is zero point nine and he only
Speaker 2: has I guess, I guess not that great. His his
Speaker 2: K to walk is thirty two to twelve, which is
Speaker 2: a two point six to seven rate, So it's like,
Speaker 2: it's not even like he's not walking guys, because he
Speaker 2: is walking guys. Twelve and forty two innings is not
Speaker 2: a ton of walks, but you know, it's it's two
Speaker 2: point five per nine, which is like a you know,
Speaker 2: average to above average walk, right, I guess it's like average,
Speaker 2: it just just seems like it's the contact that he's
Speaker 2: giving up, isn't that good, and that's how we's surviving.
Speaker 2: But we've also seen that those are the guys that
Speaker 2: can get unlucky pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: We've also seen though, that those are the guys the
Speaker 1: Royals have had some success with lately. You know, I think,
Speaker 1: like Seth Lugo, Chris Boubac, these are not like high
Speaker 1: velocity fastball types of pictures, and they've had a lot
Speaker 1: of success with those guys relative to their stuff in
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. So I'm inclined to give
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt just to the organization with
Speaker 1: this type of a picture, I think I probably I'd
Speaker 1: probably come down on that scale we talked about as
Speaker 1: more neutral on this one, because there is stuff in
Speaker 1: the data that concerns me, and you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: still so early into his career, right, He's made what
Speaker 1: seven starts, so like there's still a long way to go,
Speaker 1: and that strikeout right being what it is is really
Speaker 1: hard to stomach in a fantasy context. But the organization
Speaker 1: actually gives me some you know, optimism around this maybe
Speaker 1: being more sustainable than otherwise the data might look like
Speaker 1: So that's why I kind of come down on neutral.
Speaker 2: That's fair. Again, we spend too much time with no Cameron,
Speaker 2: so we don't want to go too much longer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why don't we go Why don't you pick one
Speaker 1: more that you want to give a little spiel for
Speaker 1: and then we'll just go quickly real or not real
Speaker 1: on the other three.
Speaker 2: All right, well, I can go pretty quick too, So Cameron,
Speaker 2: I would agree, I'm like neutral on Cameron Barger, I
Speaker 2: would say I'm neutral to not real to like disagree
Speaker 2: in the sense that I think you can stream him.
Speaker 2: I think he's fine. I don't think there's a high
Speaker 2: ceiling there, and I think he's kind of outperforming even
Speaker 2: though his expected average is actually higher than his his
Speaker 2: current average. Even if he's real, I'm willing to miss
Speaker 2: out on it because I don't think there's high ceiling there.
Speaker 2: And then Hunter Goodman, I would think is my strongest
Speaker 2: real kind of stance that I think he's real and
Speaker 2: also he's really you know, he's really valuable as someone
Speaker 2: who has kept your eligibility. It is just in the
Speaker 2: line of every day. And then David Peterson is doing
Speaker 2: some interesting things with strikeouts. I don't. I don't really
Speaker 2: buy the even though he had like a pretty good
Speaker 2: year last year, not a lot of strikeouts. I just
Speaker 2: think he's kind of like a guy. And then Quinn Priester,
Speaker 2: former Red Sox great Quinn Priester, who spent you know,
Speaker 2: a couple he had a cup of coffee with the
Speaker 2: Red Sox. I lean not real to him, at least
Speaker 2: not yet. I think he's like, he's a young pitcher
Speaker 2: who's going to get better. I don't. I don't. I
Speaker 2: lean not real, at least not yet, especially since it's
Speaker 2: kind of ironic that the Brewers had no pitching earlier
Speaker 2: in the year and now they have like more pitching
Speaker 2: than they know what to do with. And so even
Speaker 2: for like fantasy, even if he's real, he's gonna have
Speaker 2: to be very real to stick in that rotation because
Speaker 2: they just get they're gonna have a ton of arms
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: I largely agree with you on a lot of these,
Speaker 1: especially good men. I think I'm maybe a little more
Speaker 1: buying into David Peterson than you.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 1: His e er is slightly better than it was last year,
Speaker 1: but his expect d is almost a full run better.
Speaker 1: Now it's not elite. It's three seventy is the expected
Speaker 1: dra So you know, I'm not saying he's an ace,
Speaker 1: but I just think I'm a little more willing to
Speaker 1: buy into him than you are, but not by much.
Speaker 1: Like I don't think he's just a guy, but I
Speaker 1: don't think he's a lot more than just a guy.
Speaker 1: I think he's just barely more than just a guy,
Speaker 1: kind of in my opinion. So let's go to the
Speaker 1: kind of update worm segment on news notes and injuries.
Speaker 1: I threw a couple in here that I had seen,
Speaker 1: so I'll just run through those quickly, then you can
Speaker 1: run down yours. Max Meyer is going to see a
Speaker 1: hip specialist, which I never like. I don't care what
Speaker 1: part of the body it is. If you need to
Speaker 1: go see a specialist after already having missed a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, that's really concerning. This is a player that
Speaker 1: we loved before the season, who looked awesome early on
Speaker 1: then was really struggling. So seeing this injury kind of
Speaker 1: continue to the point where he needs see a specialist,
Speaker 1: especially for the hip as a pitcher like that really
Speaker 1: concerns me. Brady House making his debut a guy who
Speaker 1: at one point in time was considered a potential number
Speaker 1: one overall pick in the draft early on, like when
Speaker 1: he was in high school that didn't end up happening,
Speaker 1: but was still a high pick. He has made his
Speaker 1: debut for the Nation almost off to a hot start.
Speaker 1: He's slashing three sixty four, four sixty two, eight twenty six.
Speaker 1: He's got some walks in there. He doesn't have a
Speaker 1: home run yet, but it's only been like eleven played appearances,
Speaker 1: but just an early fun start, so I would keep
Speaker 1: an eye on him. I like House a lot, and
Speaker 1: he's he had a slow start to his minor league
Speaker 1: career but has bounced back really nicely as of late.
Speaker 1: And then Cole Reagan's officially has a rotator cuff strain,
Speaker 1: which has two people who have had shoulder injuries recently.
Speaker 1: We can appreciate how much that stinks, let alone for
Speaker 1: a pitcher, so really really discouraging. I love Reagan's like
Speaker 1: he's one of my favorite pictures to watch in baseball.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of him in fantasy. So that's
Speaker 1: a bummer. And you know, you hope that if he
Speaker 1: gets shut down for a couple of weeks that it
Speaker 1: starts to look better, but it's it's just hard to
Speaker 1: be optimistic when you get into shoulder strain for a pitcher,
Speaker 1: Like it's just really hard to not be pessimistic. So
Speaker 1: those were kind of the news notes I threw in there,
Speaker 1: But what did you want to add?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I saw there was another update where
Speaker 2: he's like, you know, as part of the rotator cuff strain,
Speaker 2: he's just getting shut down for a couple of weeks,
Speaker 2: which you also never I mean, that's that's always going
Speaker 2: to be like part of the process wund an injury,
Speaker 2: but you never you never liked that we're just gonna
Speaker 2: shut him down and then we'll check it in a
Speaker 2: few weeks, because then like we're not even at the
Speaker 2: point where we're like getting better. It's just like it's
Speaker 2: not even They're like, he's not even worth checking out
Speaker 2: right now, Like let's take a few weeks off and
Speaker 2: just see what it looks like in a couple of weeks,
Speaker 2: and then it could just be like end of the season,
Speaker 2: you know, like it's done well. The biggest news that
Speaker 2: happened while you were gone. You may have seen one
Speaker 2: of Rafael Divers his last games as a Red.
Speaker 1: Sox iFly in fact, did I saw his third to
Speaker 1: last game as a Red Sox.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was traded to the Giants because he just
Speaker 2: acted like a cryberry cry baby the whole time. And
Speaker 2: the best part about it is that, you know, despite
Speaker 2: being an atrocious third baseman for for like a decade
Speaker 2: and just never getting better, you know, the Red Sox
Speaker 2: finally went out and upgraded the position defensively. He got
Speaker 2: mad about that and then pouted all all summer or
Speaker 2: all spring, and then when the Red Sox apparently I mean,
Speaker 2: it's so funny, like the more you learned about this,
Speaker 2: like even though this trade was a week ago, like
Speaker 2: there's still like little bits of information like like trickling
Speaker 2: out about this, and like we knew it was like,
Speaker 2: you know, the Red Sox were just like done with him.
Speaker 2: But then it was like, you know, he cried in
Speaker 2: spring training because he was like you know they, you know,
Speaker 2: like he said, the Red Sox like you know, took
Speaker 2: third base from him, and they didn't like communicate it
Speaker 2: well enough. But now it came out that the Red
Speaker 2: Sox actually asked him to like stay active and they
Speaker 2: continue to take grounders at third and first base so
Speaker 2: that he could play both positions when they needed him to,
Speaker 2: and he refused and just said no. And then when
Speaker 2: Tristan Cassas got hurt, they again asked him, like, hey,
Speaker 2: you want to take some grounders at first base, we
Speaker 2: can get back on the field, and he again said no,
Speaker 2: like I refuse, I'm just going to be your DH
Speaker 2: And then like in true like cry baby fashion, he
Speaker 2: got like trade. When he gets traded, he like immediately
Speaker 2: says like, oh yeah, like I'll play first base to
Speaker 2: the Giants if they want to. It was just the
Speaker 2: Red Sox. I didn't want to play first base for
Speaker 2: so like I won't continue to rant about it, but biggest,
Speaker 2: you know, obviously, like biggest story while you were gone,
Speaker 2: one of the biggest stories of baseball so far the season,
Speaker 2: like you know, blockbuster T.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask, was it on purpose that because
Speaker 1: we kind of organized our round in the basis segment
Speaker 1: as first base, second base, third base, home plate? Was
Speaker 1: it was it on purpose that you made this our
Speaker 1: third base segment?
Speaker 2: No, but that's very fitting. I think we just always
Speaker 2: kind of have news notes and injuries as third base.
Speaker 2: But very fitting that h.
Speaker 1: Third base, Well, let me, let me ask you this quickly,
Speaker 1: because I do think it's we're spending a little more
Speaker 1: time on this one, even though we got to move
Speaker 1: fast through the others. Is dever, Like is his fantasy
Speaker 1: ranking for you drastically changing as a result of going
Speaker 1: to San Francisco or are you kind of keeping him
Speaker 1: in the same spot? And if he becomes first base eligible,
Speaker 1: how would that change his ranking for you?
Speaker 2: So the first base eligible will be I mean, third
Speaker 2: base is the biggest one. Like third base is just
Speaker 2: a desert. So like if you have him at third base,
Speaker 2: it's unlikely you're going to mo veim to first base.
Speaker 2: It never hurts to have that versatility. It's certainly not
Speaker 2: going to go down as a result. But third base
Speaker 2: is for this year? Is the is the desert. I
Speaker 2: was actually talking with a few people on the It
Speaker 2: was actually on the Betting Pros discord. So we have
Speaker 2: a Fantasypros discord and a Betting prost discord fantyspros dot
Speaker 2: com slash chat, Betting Pros dot Com slash chat. I
Speaker 2: was actually talking to people on the Betting Pros discord
Speaker 2: about like his value as a hitter going forward, and
Speaker 2: a lot of people assume that Fenway is this like
Speaker 2: incredible park for hitters, which it is a net positive
Speaker 2: park for hitters, but it's not a home run park.
Speaker 2: A lot of people think because of the pesky Pole
Speaker 2: and because of the wall and left field that it's
Speaker 2: a home run park. It's actually a below average home
Speaker 2: run park. I think it's actually the eighth worst park
Speaker 2: for home runs because while there is the pesky pole
Speaker 2: and right straightaway right field is three eighty straightaway center
Speaker 2: or like right center is four twenty, and then even
Speaker 2: though if you hit it straight away left it's pretty
Speaker 2: it's pretty shallow, but they do have the wall, but
Speaker 2: then even when you get into like left center, it's
Speaker 2: like three eighty with that wall, like that's an even
Speaker 2: deeper shot. So it's like sneaky, not a great park
Speaker 2: for home runs. But then again, Oracle Park is even
Speaker 2: worse for home runs, and so it's like he's not
Speaker 2: it's not like he's going to the Phillies or the
Speaker 2: Reds of the Yankees, where he's going to this incredible
Speaker 2: offensive ballpark. He's going from like a good park for
Speaker 2: hitters but not necessarily for home runs, to a bad
Speaker 2: park for home runs. And so I saw something that
Speaker 2: like he would actually have more home runs this year
Speaker 2: if he played all of his games in Oracle Park.
Speaker 2: But I think all in all, he's just going to
Speaker 2: be the same hitter. He might have, like you know,
Speaker 2: maybe a few more doubles or maybe a few more homers,
Speaker 2: but like I think as a hitter, he's I think
Speaker 2: it's largely just going to be the same.
Speaker 1: Quickly run through the other news and notes.
Speaker 2: All Right, Michael King is out through their All Star break.
Speaker 2: That's a bummer. He was pitching really well and we're
Speaker 2: hoping to get him back. But now it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: just like we were talking about with Reagans, like Reagan's
Speaker 2: was shut down and who knows, And now it's like
Speaker 2: Michael King's out like through the All Star break and
Speaker 2: then we'll see swore as heat check time. He's back
Speaker 2: and he looks fantastic over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: He's second in VBR. Only needed to reads Google. I
Speaker 2: could just wrap off all the stats right now. But
Speaker 2: like you know, we love Ranger Swarez on this show,
Speaker 2: but he just like he's back. He started he started
Speaker 2: the season on the il. He's back and he just
Speaker 2: continued to put up numbers, you know, quietly. One of
Speaker 2: the best pictures of baseball, Max Scherzer throwing.
Speaker 1: By the way, just quickly if Ranger swaz Ever like
Speaker 1: wins a cy Young like, we are the show that
Speaker 1: made that happen. I know nobody loves Ranger Swarez more
Speaker 1: than this podcast.
Speaker 2: That's right. And then Max Suers are throwing a bullpen
Speaker 2: this weekend. Any interest in Max Scherzer picking them up? No, nope, no,
Speaker 2: And then the last one, Matt Chapman, resumes basal activity.
Speaker 2: So I guess I felt there was wanted to play
Speaker 2: third bases because their third baseman is coming back. Someone
Speaker 2: actually I was just like joking, but because Raphod Evers
Speaker 2: is like such a bad defensive third baseman. Someone joked
Speaker 2: on Twitter like what do Like, I can't even imagine
Speaker 2: what ridiculous move the Dodgers are going to make now
Speaker 2: to like combat the Giants getting wrapped out Devers, Like
Speaker 2: what should they do? And I said, they stood just
Speaker 2: trade for Matt Chapman, so the Dever so that the
Speaker 2: Giants have to play Devers at their base.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty good, all right. Last topic here in
Speaker 1: round of the bases. This is a quick one, just
Speaker 1: because I didn't really have a good fourth and I
Speaker 1: had wanted to talk about this player. We really haven't
Speaker 1: talked much about him this year. Are we talking enough
Speaker 1: about Saya Suzuki. His slash line this year is two
Speaker 1: sixty one three seventeen five thirty six. He has eighteen
Speaker 1: home runs. Only seven players in baseball, all of baseball,
Speaker 1: have more home runs than say A Suzuki, And I
Speaker 1: wonder if from a fantasy perspective, he's maybe getting overshadowed
Speaker 1: by the fact that he has this mega superstar MVP
Speaker 1: candidate breakout in Pete Crow Armstrong in the same outfield,
Speaker 1: kind of taking all the headlines and the hype away.
Speaker 1: But I feel like Saya Suzuki has been great, and
Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious where you would have him in
Speaker 1: the rest of season outfield rankings.
Speaker 2: I actually recently moved him up. I would have to
Speaker 2: look at where my rankings are. But I think there's
Speaker 2: like it's not like post type like prospect fatigue, but
Speaker 2: there's almost like when he came over from Japan, there
Speaker 2: there was a lot of hype around him. We were
Speaker 2: very excited about him and his first season was like fine,
Speaker 2: and then the next two seasons we were both really good,
Speaker 2: but he also dealt with injuries, but the both two
Speaker 2: years or both years, and so it's not quite at though,
Speaker 2: like Byron Bucks and Mike Trout level where we're like
Speaker 2: what could it be? But there is always like he's
Speaker 2: dealt with like foot injuries and like how much is
Speaker 2: he gonna run? And you know, we we've never gotten
Speaker 2: a full season at him, like still like he came
Speaker 2: over in twenty twenty two and his games played are
Speaker 2: one hundred eleven, one thirty eight, one thirty two and
Speaker 2: now this year we had sixty nine nice and twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three and twenty twe four were both really good years.
Speaker 2: But you know, we like he only had one hundred
Speaker 2: thirty eight and one hundred three and two games, and
Speaker 2: so it was almost kind of like, you know, if
Speaker 2: you're like, like, if you're read to draft him this offseason,
Speaker 2: did you have to draft him at a ceiling? Because
Speaker 2: he had one hundred and thirty two games, He had
Speaker 2: twenty one home runs, he stole sixteen bases in a
Speaker 2: bad two eighty three, And we always wanted to just
Speaker 2: extrapolay that to a full season and be like, well,
Speaker 2: if you played a full season, maybe we get twenty
Speaker 2: five home runs to twenty stolen bases and even better
Speaker 2: counting stats. But then then you're drafting meda ceiling and
Speaker 2: you're kind of like hoping for those counting stats, and
Speaker 2: so maybe we are just seeing even though the batting
Speaker 2: average is a little bit lower, it's two sixty one,
Speaker 2: it's not like terribly lower. Ironically, his average last year
Speaker 2: was twoenty three. Expect the batting average two fifty five.
Speaker 2: This year it's too sixty one, respect the batting average
Speaker 2: two seventy three. So it's kind of like the inverse.
Speaker 2: The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Maybe he's
Speaker 2: just a two seventy hitter and that's just what he is.
Speaker 2: Career average actually two seventy five, That might be exactly correct.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he's not running as much, which I think
Speaker 2: is fine as long as he's sitting for this kind
Speaker 2: of power, and I'm not sure how much. Is kind
Speaker 2: of like he's being overshadowed by Petek Armstrong, but I
Speaker 2: think it's almost just kind of like maybe feeler just
Speaker 2: waiting for the other shoe to drop, Like all right,
Speaker 2: but when's it getting injured? Like or like what what
Speaker 2: happens now? But we'll see. So far he looks really good.
Speaker 1: It's kind of ironic that I poised, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: pose this question as getting overshadowed by Peek Armstrong because
Speaker 1: I want to ask you actually about PCA a follow
Speaker 1: up question instead of about says a key in Saya's
Speaker 1: own segment. But I think you're pretty your analysis in
Speaker 1: Saya is pretty spot on. I don't have a lot
Speaker 1: to disagree with with Pete Crow Armstrong. I want you
Speaker 1: to just very very quickly, because we got to move on,
Speaker 1: ask you where is he in Dynasty?
Speaker 2: For you?
Speaker 1: We don't often talk a lot of Dynasty on this show,
Speaker 1: but when I was thinking about this, I was looking
Speaker 1: at our rest of season rankings. He's He's outfield twelve
Speaker 1: in the consensus rest of season rankings, pretty high, and
Speaker 1: he's only twenty three, So should he be higher? In Dynasty?
Speaker 1: Sometimes those rankings are slower to update obviously in season
Speaker 1: on the baseball side of things. But but where do
Speaker 1: you think he should be in amongst Dynasty outfielders? Well?
Speaker 2: First off, did customer support brought you up to this?
Speaker 2: Because I got pinged this morning about updating my Dynasty
Speaker 2: rankings because they're out of date and because so January.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. That's hilarious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, someone wrote in and be like, hey, like Welshin
Speaker 2: and Mayor their Dynasty rankings need to be updated. I
Speaker 2: was like, all right, I'll update him soon, which I
Speaker 2: do need to do. But it's just like it's like
Speaker 2: such a massive undertaking to like, you know, like in
Speaker 2: season is kind of like I just update those like
Speaker 2: a little bit every day so that they're always, you know,
Speaker 2: like within a few days, they're always kind of updated.
Speaker 2: Dynasty is like you got to change everything. So where
Speaker 2: did you say peak Armstrong is the rest of season?
Speaker 1: I believe he's twelfth amongst outfielders. Really twelve, Okay, I
Speaker 1: think that's what I saw when I looked. I'll pull
Speaker 1: it up again while you're talking.
Speaker 2: I have him at sixteen. So maybe I'm too low
Speaker 2: on It's hard to say with Pek Armstrong just because
Speaker 2: like he's such an exciting fun player, but like I
Speaker 2: keep waiting.
Speaker 1: Twenty ninth over all outfield twelve, Wow.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's higher than expected. Maybe I'm maybe I'm too
Speaker 2: low on him. I have him sixteenth, but it's just
Speaker 2: like I keep waiting for him to slow down. He
Speaker 2: just kind of never does. Because, like we talked, We've
Speaker 2: talked about Hi a few times on the show. We
Speaker 2: talked about him like a month or a month or
Speaker 2: so ago, and he was just kind of like pop
Speaker 2: flying some of these home runs and hard contact wasn't great.
Speaker 2: And now it's just like, maybe that doesn't matter. Maybe
Speaker 2: he's just like an excited player and that's just who
Speaker 2: he is. And also he has stolen twenty three bases already,
Speaker 2: and so maybe when you have that kind of like
Speaker 2: it is nice when you have this kind of player
Speaker 2: that even if they do kind of slow down or
Speaker 2: go into a slump, having that speed as a floor
Speaker 2: to like, oh, he also has twenty three stolen bases.
Speaker 2: Looks like even if he slows down a little bit,
Speaker 2: you're still gonna get those, you know, those numbers. That
Speaker 2: becomes really valuable. So I don't know how I have
Speaker 2: in Dynasty. I have him sixteenth. Rest of the season.
Speaker 2: I probably need to move him up. I'll oppose it
Speaker 2: to you real quick as I move him up the
Speaker 2: rest of season. Peaker Armstrong or Tiascar Hernandez, Pek Armstrong, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'll move him up. Piker Armstrong or O'Neil Cruz.
Speaker 1: That's a fun one. I think I might lean Pca,
Speaker 1: but that's it. That's tough.
Speaker 2: What about Jackson Merrow?
Speaker 1: I think I go Peaker Armstrong just with the injury
Speaker 1: stuff Merril has been dealing with.
Speaker 2: James would that would?
Speaker 1: For sure? I am like the James would. I love
Speaker 1: James would okay?
Speaker 2: And then above would I have Jaron Duran?
Speaker 1: M Yeah, I'd probably keep Duran there, all right, I'll.
Speaker 2: Bump up PC to fourteen.
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: Now, Dynasty, Yeah, I don't know where I haven't done.
Speaker 2: Let's let's update it real quick. Let's i'll see where
Speaker 2: I mean. Where I have him now is going to
Speaker 2: be married because I haven't updated this yet this season.
Speaker 2: So he's forty eight right now, so I would say
Speaker 2: that's out of date. So let's move him all the
Speaker 2: way up too. Let's put him right here at twenty three,
Speaker 2: and then I'll post the same question to you, Pete.
Speaker 2: So this is Dynasty now, outfielder, I have him at
Speaker 2: twenty three, Pete, Kor Armstrong or Kyle Schwarber in.
Speaker 1: Dynasty PCIA, Okay, let's move him up.
Speaker 2: This is an interesting one because I think one player
Speaker 2: is ascending and the other one is. Maybe we were
Speaker 2: too excited about Jason Dominguz. Oh, Pete kar Sewan, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think I still like Jason Domingez, but I think
Speaker 2: that star is not shining quite as brightly. How about Lawrence.
Speaker 1: Butler, I'd say, Pete kar Armstrong, Riley Green, PCA.
Speaker 2: Okay, this one I'm not I'm not going to ask.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna move him up. Michael Harris, I'm I'm
Speaker 2: so down on Michael Harris. I'm just gonna move PCI up.
Speaker 1: M hm.
Speaker 2: Okay. So we did this one in Redraft, the same
Speaker 2: question O'Neil Cruz in Dynasty or PCA.
Speaker 1: I would say, it's equally difficult for me. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think i'd probably yeah, I think I might. I don't know,
Speaker 1: actually that that feels like a real coin flip to me.
Speaker 2: Okay, how about so in Redraft we had Duran. What
Speaker 2: about Duran and Dynasty?
Speaker 1: I think probably, well, I don't know, maybe maybe how
Speaker 1: old is Duran?
Speaker 2: He is I think twenty seven, twenty eight, let's see.
Speaker 1: I know, I think I go PCA. That's enough of
Speaker 1: an age difference that I'll give the ways to the.
Speaker 2: He's twenty eight. He turns twenty nine in.
Speaker 1: September, so he's I'll go PCA.
Speaker 2: Okay, Brent Rooker.
Speaker 1: I love Brent Rooker. That's tough. I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: there's an age gap there for sure.
Speaker 2: This is probably the line. So I have PC eight seventeen,
Speaker 2: and the right above him, I have Owneil Cruise, and
Speaker 2: then I'll probably move up. I'll move him above Cruise
Speaker 2: just because of the exciting factor. But right above there,
Speaker 2: I don't know that I can move him above many
Speaker 2: of these because it's Brent Rooker and then Roman Anthony
Speaker 2: and then Jackson Merrill and then your boy James Wood.
Speaker 2: This is this is an interesting one for age. Let
Speaker 2: me pull up this. How old is this player? So
Speaker 2: he's this player is he turns twenty eight next week.
Speaker 2: He's one of the best hitters in baseball. He's also
Speaker 2: one of the most oft injured players in baseball who
Speaker 2: just can't stay on the field. Although he did play
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty seven games last year, it was
Speaker 2: just he was just hurt. Like the whole year, you
Speaker 2: were done Alvarez. H, that's an interesting one in Dynasty.
Speaker 1: That is really interesting because the if not for the
Speaker 1: injury factor, I don't think it's interesting, but it's really interesting.
Speaker 2: With that. I think I think I can make a
Speaker 2: case that I have to me, this isn't a Dynasty show,
Speaker 2: but I think I could make a case that you should. Mean,
Speaker 2: it's probably hard to sell right now when you're in
Speaker 2: an overis, but if he comes back healthy and produces,
Speaker 2: it's probably time to sell because he's got these lingering
Speaker 2: like hand issues and then also just two knees that
Speaker 2: are shot, and like I don't know how much longer
Speaker 2: he's gonna play.
Speaker 1: He also might not have outfield eligibility, like there will
Speaker 1: be years where he doesn't probably soon. Yeah, by the way,
Speaker 1: this year, I'm not sure that Roman Anthony should be
Speaker 1: ahead of PCA. I know he's like a top prospect,
Speaker 1: I'm like, really exciting, but like PCA is twenty three
Speaker 1: and he's already doing it at an MVP level. So
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they should be switched, but I'm saying
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced they shouldn't. It will be my stance.
Speaker 2: You have played six games in the outfield this year.
Speaker 2: I think that's a blast mistake. I think it's a
Speaker 2: disrespectful take to Roman Anthony. Roman Anthony is twenty one.
Speaker 1: And remember when I said we need to be quick
Speaker 1: on this, Yeah, do which. By the way, I'm only
Speaker 1: to be clear to everybody, I'm not trying to rush
Speaker 1: with the conversation. We have another show coming up very soon,
Speaker 1: so we're kind of up against the clock here. We're
Speaker 1: very busy day of recording. That's why I'm kind of
Speaker 1: rushing us through this. But I think that's enough Dynasty
Speaker 1: talk for this show. Since we don't usually do that
Speaker 1: on here. We'll go ahead and wrap that up there.
Speaker 1: Be sure everybody to check out the other segments we
Speaker 1: have coming out throughout the weekend. We of course will
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Speaker 1: later this weekend. For Mayor, I'm Ryan Warman. Thank you
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