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Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it? I did it because I

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Speaker 2: was foolish. Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on

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Speaker 2: Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 4: To John Annick and Kenny Florian podcast, John Annick and

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Speaker 4: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 3: I can't get enough love tonight, Big job COTUFA. I

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Speaker 3: believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved bullshits.

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Speaker 4: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: Oh, is it great to be with you? Is it

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Speaker 3: great to be with you? A good early Monday to you.

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Speaker 6: Earliest stark time in the illustrious history of the Anakin

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Speaker 6: Flooring Podcast.

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Speaker 3: It is seven o four am Pacific. TJ.

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Speaker 6: DeSantis had to leave his house when it was very

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Speaker 6: dark outside today to.

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Speaker 3: Be in studio. We appreciate him for it.

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Speaker 6: It is Monday, July one, twenty nineteen, episode two oh

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Speaker 6: seven of the Anakin Florian podcast Happy Canada Day to

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Speaker 6: our Canadian listeners. Thankfully, they never introduced Ken Flow as

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Speaker 6: like an American Canadian, despite the fact that he trained

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Speaker 6: with Farasa Hobby up there.

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Speaker 3: Good morning kid. We'll talk about there, but he's definitely different.

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Speaker 7: Yeah you mean there, But yeah, dude, I was kind

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Speaker 7: of an honorary Canadian.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'll take that. I'll take that. So you

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Speaker 3: were in Washington, d C training with Ryan Hall.

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Speaker 7: Yes, he's getting ready for his fight July thirteenth against

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Speaker 7: Darren Elkins in sack Down.

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Speaker 3: So we're getting ready for that. Man.

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Speaker 7: We're in the final final stages now. He's looking sharp

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Speaker 7: and ready to go for that.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 3: I'll actually be in his corner.

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Speaker 7: Well, I should be in his corner barring any airplane

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Speaker 7: or some issue like that, but this should be the

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Speaker 7: first time I'll actually get the corner Ryan.

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Speaker 3: So I'm excited about that.

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Speaker 6: I'm excited to watch it, and of course I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: stretch up doing five UFC live events in six weeks

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Speaker 6: and the one I'm not doing though, of course you're

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Speaker 6: not soaker by thirteenth in Sacer so I guess we'll

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Speaker 6: have to hook up at a different time. Yes, and

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Speaker 6: I don't mean physically, folks at the other end of

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Speaker 6: the line, So a lot to get to today. We

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Speaker 6: of course will recap what Francis and Gano and everybody

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Speaker 6: else did in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Great crowd at Target Center,

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Speaker 6: great night for the fighters. Obviously a lot of finishes.

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Speaker 6: So it took seven years for us to get back

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Speaker 6: to that day Target Center, and certainly was worth the weight,

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Speaker 6: So we'll get into all of that. Of course, Ray

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Speaker 6: Longo is going to join us, but again with the

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Speaker 6: early start time, it's not like he's texting me back

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Speaker 6: this morning, so I can't guarantee Longo's going to join us,

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Speaker 6: but he is scheduled to be on in exactly nine minutes.

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Speaker 6: Ian Parker for the main event Challenge. Another big week

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Speaker 6: for Team Florian as he sweeps the board in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 6: And let's start with Francis and Ghanu, whom you picked

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Speaker 6: to win by first round knockout.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what he did.

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Speaker 6: So it took in Ghanu one minute and eleven seconds

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Speaker 6: combined to get through Curtis Blades and Caine Velaskez in

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Speaker 6: is that he has the most natural power in his

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Speaker 6: meaning that he doesn't really need to catch you clean.

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Speaker 6: I think it was a forearm in this instance. But

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Speaker 6: JDS succumbed to the power. Live to fight another day

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Speaker 6: in Ghano's all the rage and deserves the hype coming

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Speaker 7: Yeah, A few people have that kind of power, John,

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Speaker 7: You know, Dan Henderson was one of those guys.

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Speaker 3: He didn't have to hit you clean. He could still

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Speaker 7: Francis and Gano has that power, and he has that

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Speaker 3: You just don't see that.

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Speaker 7: because of that natural speed that he possesses. That's exactly

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Speaker 7: He started the fight with some heavy leg kicks just

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Speaker 6: So I do think in Ghana is getting better. And

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Speaker 6: But I can assure you that Eric Nickson, his chief corner,

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Speaker 6: I think his manager Markel Martin, who was in his

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Speaker 6: of course you saw Kamara Usman, the UFC Welterway champion

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Speaker 6: Like my best friend Brian Montgomery has not lifted a

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Speaker 6: He just retains muscle.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's really impressive.

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Speaker 7: You know, that was a clear sign that he needed

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Speaker 7: But I think he's getting that and you're seeing it now.

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Speaker 7: He's way more balanced when he's striking, which unfortunately for

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Speaker 6: It's amazing to think where Francis and Ghana was about

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Speaker 6: to Kenny, right, He's not afraid to hitch after the Horde.

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Speaker 6: You know, I just think he's a nasty prick, as

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Speaker 6: And I just think that matchup stylistically would be absolutely fascinating.

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Speaker 6: And all indications are for Francis and Gano. The fun

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Speaker 7: Pull out, yeah, and listen, I think he certainly deserves it,

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't be surprised to see and Ghano open as

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Speaker 6: Francis and Ghana was even money to win by first

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Speaker 6: Exactly right, And that's sort of the point, I'm getting

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Speaker 6: so DC right now betting favored against step A that

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Speaker 6: the walk. As for Junior dos Santos can flow. When

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Speaker 6: but he said if I knock out Francis and Gano

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Speaker 6: So I don't think this changes things much for Dosanto's Candidly,

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Speaker 7: So the unfortunate thing is that I haven't quite seen

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Speaker 6: Overall, with respect to Conan and everybody American top team,

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Speaker 6: All Right, we got to put that down because Ray

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Speaker 4: It's now time for the Ray Longo minutes.

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Speaker 3: And I'm going to punch a hole in this fucking trucks.

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Speaker 6: And my finished thought, Kenny really was just gonna be

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Speaker 6: but he don't feel like doing that. You know, he

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Speaker 6: Those are his words, not mine. All right, After the

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Speaker 3: He took the call today. Happy July. Ray, good to

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Speaker 3: hear you, Bud.

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Speaker 8: It would be efty someone who's fucking Who's bray? Idea?

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Speaker 8: Was this?

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Speaker 7: I don't know who it was. Maybe it was it

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Speaker 7: was me Bray. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 8: Oh man, you coulda do this at seven o'clock in

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Speaker 8: the morning, California.

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Speaker 6: You see team Florian's on the East coast. He's in Washington,

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Speaker 6: d C. Helping Ryan Hall for his fight July thirteenth.

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Speaker 8: Oh wow, yeah, Ryan Hol's still in the UFC.

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Speaker 3: He is he didn't fight that off and the guy's

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Speaker 3: undefeated in the UFC. Come on, it is.

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Speaker 8: Crazy, man. Did that guy? Give that guy some love? Kenny?

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Speaker 3: So, uh so what time you go to bed last night?

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Speaker 1: Ray?

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Speaker 6: I know it was a late night last Sunday, and

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Speaker 8: You know, if I'm if I'm to bed by two

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Speaker 8: I'm staying last night probably about three. Wow, Yeah, looks three.

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Speaker 3: So we're sitting my alarm from like.

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Speaker 8: Two in the morning.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you're uh, you're setting only the alarm for

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Speaker 6: the Anaican Florian podcast and we appreciate that. Were you

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I did. I did watch the fights out of order,

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Speaker 8: crazy power. And uh, I think you guys were just

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Speaker 3: No, Well, what do you do against a guy like that? Right?

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Speaker 6: I mean, because Junior Dos Santos is not a takedown artist.

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Speaker 8: I could open up Junior's boxing game a little bit.

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Speaker 8: But if he knows that's all you're gonna do. You know,

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Speaker 6: Seeing my conspiracy theory was, and I'm sure you'll disagree

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Speaker 6: with this, but that Francis and Ghanu denigrated the Brazilian

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Speaker 3: Call me crazy, Uh.

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Speaker 8: That sounds a little crazy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I mean it was just I was just

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Speaker 3: But we don't need to spend too much time on that.

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Speaker 6: I want to just get your thoughts on this whole

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Speaker 8: I mean, look, this is the way it's it's looking.

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Speaker 8: It's looking like that. Look, there's always been guys floating

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Speaker 8: of shot that you get hit with. But you know,

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Speaker 8: They just kind of negate at each other by doing nothing.

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Speaker 8: But listen, Julia. The other thing is he did get

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Speaker 8: because you know, you know what I'm saying, and I'm

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Speaker 6: Oh and I'm sure at some point, you know in

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Speaker 6: But man, when he starts swinging those arms and turning

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Speaker 6: I mean it really even watched the overream knockout, but he.

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Speaker 8: like he handled him the right way. You know, he

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Speaker 8: put him. He was like a fish out of water

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Speaker 8: in that fight. And then when it came back to

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Speaker 8: stand and there was always a shot of it happened him,

439
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Speaker 8: but he was so you know, you know, he took

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Speaker 8: enough steam out of him to where he could, you know,

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Speaker 8: keep doing what he wanted to do, so we'll see.

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Speaker 8: I don't know, it was uh, you know, it's what

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Speaker 8: the people want to see. Though. It was definitely entertaining,

444
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Speaker 8: and I would I take that Joe Benavitez fight over

445
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Speaker 8: that fight any day of the week. But sure everybody

446
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Speaker 8: wants to see the knockouts.

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Speaker 6: So right, and we will certainly get to Joseph Benavitez

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Speaker 6: here in a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Last thing before we let you go.

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Speaker 6: Would seem to me that you're four highest profile UFC

451
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Speaker 6: guys for Rob Dualash Willie, Chris Widman, Ally quint Aljamaine Sterling.

452
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 3: None of them have a fight on the books right now.

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Speaker 3: Is that accurate?

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Speaker 8: That is accurate? Yeah. I think hopefully I'm going to

455
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Speaker 8: get a couple of guys on the Garden Show a November,

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Speaker 8: so we'll see what happened.

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Speaker 6: I'd imagine you'll get Wadman and I Quinton might even

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Speaker 6: be Ali Quinton Paul Felder at MSG. You never know,

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Speaker 6: so all right, my man, Well, unless you got anything else,

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Speaker 6: we'll we'll let you go back to bed.

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Speaker 8: Oh, thank you very much. I appreciate.

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Speaker 3: Is this Kenny, Wait, this is not a permanent switch.

463
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Speaker 3: This is not a permanent switch one type of thing.

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Speaker 8: I'll start trying to get to bed by one if this.

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Speaker 6: Is let me know, so, Ray, actually, I have to

466
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Speaker 6: do this before we let you go. So we told

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Speaker 6: you that if you could go five hundred or better

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Speaker 6: on us the main events the rest of twenty nineteen,

469
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Speaker 6: we give you a thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: You're oh to one.

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Speaker 6: You had Hinato moy Kano against the Korean zombie you

472
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Speaker 6: missed last week, so you didn't get the free beyond

473
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Speaker 6: Francis and Gano.

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Speaker 3: I shouldn't call that a.

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Speaker 6: Free, yes, Fighter, John Jones, Dane, John Jones, your mother fighter?

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Speaker 3: All right, John Jones.

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Speaker 8: That pool guy just got where he put on them.

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Speaker 8: Poor Jones. He doesn't like taking him.

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Speaker 5: And I know I'm telling troubled.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, everybody's flying to the window now to bet Tiago

481
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Speaker 6: mahead de Santos after long Ago.

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Speaker 3: John Jones. All right, man, we'll talk to you next Monday.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 8: All right, guys, take it easy.

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Speaker 6: All right, there he is the great Ray Longo. Every

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Speaker 6: Monday here on the Nican Floring Podcast. We might if

487
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Speaker 6: TJ's in, we might have to just move up the showtime, Kenny,

488
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Speaker 6: just to mess with this guy to side.

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Speaker 7: Out absolutely, and by the way, he could pick as

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Speaker 7: many fights as he wants.

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Speaker 3: We're good, We're not give right, We're not give of

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Speaker 3: that thousand.

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Speaker 6: I can imagine if I said that he had to

494
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Speaker 6: end up paying us for a real future performance. All Right,

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Speaker 6: we're gonna make some picks on UFC two thirty nine

496
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Speaker 6: here shortly, but we got to rifle through some of

497
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Speaker 6: these other performances. You know, Joseph Benavidez to me is

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Speaker 6: sort of a criminally underappreciated fighter when you look at

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Speaker 6: the body of work in terms of his ability to

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Speaker 6: finish by knockout and by submission. Early adversity after a

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Speaker 6: big right hand from Juca Formiga opened up two cuts

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Speaker 6: in bad locations. Rob and Roe might be the best

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Speaker 6: cut man in the world, and thankfully he was in

504
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Speaker 6: the corner to minimize the damage for Joseph.

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Speaker 3: But Joseph was just after the finish.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he really fought like a caged dog and

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Speaker 6: emerges as the number one contender. I think the Sahudo

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Speaker 6: rematch would certainly have a lot of steam after Joseph,

509
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Speaker 6: not only one this weekend, but did it in the

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Speaker 6: fashion in which he did it.

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Speaker 7: What a little beast, you know. I think that Formiga

512
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Speaker 7: was far sharper. He was better this time around. I

513
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Speaker 7: thought he was gonna be a much tougher matchup for Benavetez.

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Speaker 3: I think he was.

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Speaker 7: He had his moments in the fight, but Benavetez just

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Speaker 7: better everywhere.

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Speaker 3: Really.

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Speaker 7: I think that from a technical standpoint, you know, Formiga

519
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Speaker 7: seemed to be a little bit cleaner with this technique.

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Speaker 7: You know, like a lot of those alpha male guys,

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Speaker 7: Benavitez tends to blitz head on, which is a very

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Speaker 7: dangerous thing to do. You can get hit with some

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Speaker 7: big shots. But again, his speed I think was the

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Speaker 7: difference in this one. His ability to out scramble someone

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Speaker 7: like Formiga, who is a well respected Brazilian JUSTU black belt,

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Speaker 7: was impressive. And just again he was a guy that

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Speaker 7: just had too many weapons for Formiga. He was throwing

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Speaker 7: way too much. It seemed to overload Formiga and overwhelm him.

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Speaker 7: And it was another beautiful knockout win by Benavetez against

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Speaker 7: a much tougher and slicker Formiga. It didn't Benavidez got

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Speaker 7: the win anyway, and this is a guy who really

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Speaker 7: deserves a shot at the one hundred and twenty five

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Speaker 7: pound belt if they keep it right.

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Speaker 6: And I do think Benavitez, his style Kenny is such

535
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Speaker 6: that the Dustin Ortiz fight, in my humble opinion, is

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Speaker 6: actually a tougher fight for him than this one. And

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Speaker 6: I say that because Ortiz is just very strong, and

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Speaker 6: I think Ortiz has the best cardio I've ever seen

539
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Speaker 6: at flyweight, unless you want to say it's Benavitez is.

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Speaker 6: And I think just in this matchup in terms of speed,

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Speaker 6: in terms of cardio, in terms of grappling confidence in

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Speaker 6: an MMA setting, I just thought Formiga was up against it.

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Speaker 6: I know some Vegas sharps were firing out plays on Formiga,

544
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Speaker 6: and perhaps as such, the betting number really tightened, you know,

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Speaker 6: Benavidez closing at least on my site minus one twenty

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Speaker 6: and juicy a. Formiga was a minus one oh five

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Speaker 6: or an even money underdog. But a big win for

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Speaker 6: Benavidez and nice to see him and our friend Megan

549
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Speaker 6: o'levy get the fifty thousand dollars bonus as well. All right,

550
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Speaker 6: at welterweight, your guy Damian Maya, and I was able

551
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Speaker 6: to have a nice conversation with him after the fact.

552
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Speaker 6: Got a big win over Anthony Rocco Martin end up

553
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Speaker 6: being a majority decision twenty nine to twenty eight times two,

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Speaker 6: and then one judge had it twenty eight to twenty

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Speaker 6: eight gave Roco Martin a ten eight for that third

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Speaker 6: and final round.

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Speaker 3: I believe a lot of layers to this fight, Kenny.

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Speaker 6: I certainly want to give you a chance to talk

559
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Speaker 6: about the referee and his decision to take the mount

560
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Speaker 6: away from Damie and Maya. But overall, just twenty first

561
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Speaker 6: UFC win for Damian Maya puts him into sole possession

562
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Speaker 6: of second place all time on the UFC wins list.

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Speaker 6: And maybe it's not everyone's cup of tea. Maybe it's

564
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Speaker 6: kind of like watching the jiu jitsu match at times,

565
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Speaker 6: but stop it and Roco Martin wasn't able to do so.

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Speaker 7: You're absolutely right, Listen, at the end of the day,

567
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Speaker 7: Anthony Rocco Martin needs to be able to stop something

568
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Speaker 7: like that, and he wasn't able to do it. You

569
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Speaker 7: had a Damian Maya who kind of was doing his

570
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Speaker 7: usual dance, going out there setting up his takedowns with

571
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Speaker 7: his punches. I would have liked to see him throw

572
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Speaker 7: more kicks. I think Damian Maya is kind of moving

573
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Speaker 7: away from kicks, or has been moving away from kicks

574
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Speaker 7: as of late.

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Speaker 3: He should have at least been throwing that left high kick.

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Speaker 7: I thought to try to get those hands up from

577
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Speaker 7: Rocco Anthony Rocco Martin. But either way, it was still

578
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Speaker 7: the takedowns the control for Damian Maya. And you know,

579
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Speaker 7: I thought it was a terrible stand up from the referee.

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Speaker 7: I mean, Damien is sitting on the guy's hips and

581
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Speaker 7: you know, firing away to the body, and the referee

582
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Speaker 7: decides that was the time to stand him up. And

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Speaker 7: it doesn't matter what the crowd is doing or saying

584
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 7: or booing, that has no influence on the fight. It's

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Speaker 7: the referee's job to let them fight. This is mixed

586
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Speaker 7: martial arts. You get to fight on the ground. I

587
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Speaker 7: get it. If you're sitting there in the guard and

588
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Speaker 7: you're not doing nothing at all, I get that. But

589
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Speaker 7: Damien was literally punching in that moment from a malposition

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Speaker 7: and the referee goes to stand him up. That could

591
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Speaker 7: have been the difference. I mean it happened to the

592
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Speaker 7: Kamara Luzman fight where Damien has his back. You can't

593
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Speaker 7: stop a fight from that, you can't stand up a

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Speaker 7: fight from that position.

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Speaker 3: You know, there's there's fighters careers are on the line here.

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Speaker 7: So, uh, that was worrisome. But again, we're gonna see this,

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Speaker 7: We're going to continue to to see this. A lot

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Speaker 7: of times referees don't get credit when they do a

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Speaker 7: great job, but this was one of those cases where

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Speaker 7: where he just didn't do a good job. And it

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Speaker 7: it pains me to see this because again, uh, these

602
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Speaker 7: every each and every fight is very important to a

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Speaker 7: fighter's career. And Damien's getting to the end now. I

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Speaker 7: know he would have liked to finish on a win.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if he's gonna have one more. It

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Speaker 7: looks like he says he wants one more, perhaps in

607
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Speaker 7: South Paolo, to finish off his career there. Uh but anyways,

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Speaker 7: the right guy won, and Anthony Rocco Martin I felt

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Speaker 7: like didn't do enough late in the fight. I thought

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Speaker 7: he had his chances to be a little bit more

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Speaker 7: aggressive and wasn't able.

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Speaker 3: To do so.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and again he's a super nice kid. Roco Martin

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Speaker 6: is and he's very coachable. I mean, you know how

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Speaker 6: how badly he wanted this and always deferring to his

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Speaker 6: American top team Jiu Jitsu Co, which is when trying

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Speaker 6: to figure out and he's a credential Brazilian jiu jitsu

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Speaker 6: black belt right who has dealt with Brock Larson's top

619
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Speaker 6: pressure for years and years in the gym. But it

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Speaker 6: just goes to show you Damian Mai is one of

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Speaker 6: a con man, you know, and that's why he is.

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Speaker 6: He is the number two most winning fighter in the

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Speaker 6: history of the Ultimate Fighting Championship. He's an absolute legend

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Speaker 6: and normally a guy like that would get Hall of

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Speaker 6: Fame consideration. He's not gonna, but in terms of the

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Speaker 6: body of work, Damian May is that guy for me.

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Speaker 3: And if you're wondering why we didn't give.

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Speaker 6: Him a post fight interview, it was just a television

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Speaker 6: clock issue. I know a lot of people were wondering

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Speaker 6: why we weren't able to get in there, but we

631
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Speaker 6: had had back to back decisions at that point in time,

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Speaker 6: and we moved the show along, moving the recap along

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Speaker 6: Ken Flow. Vince from Hell Puschelle, you were so convicted

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Speaker 6: in picking him as a plus two fifty five underdog.

635
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Speaker 6: And I know you feel like Roosevelt Roberts is really

636
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Speaker 6: a good, well rounded fighter to keep an eye on

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Speaker 6: moving forward. But I think Paschelle just showed you his toughness,

638
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 6: his heart, his cardio, his confidence, and a lot of

639
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Speaker 6: things to rally after the first round didn't go his way.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and I felt this was a little too early

641
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Speaker 7: for someone like Roosevelt Roberts. You know, Vince Bachelle has

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00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 7: a lot of experience. You know, Roosevelt Roberts is a

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Speaker 7: guy who's still coming up in the game.

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Speaker 3: I think that skill.

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Speaker 7: Wise, you know, Roosevelt Roberts was probably the better guy,

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Speaker 7: But experience wise, I thought that was really going to be.

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Speaker 7: The difference was Vince Bichelle's ability to take him down

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Speaker 7: and just be smarter to and how he managed the

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Speaker 7: time and as far as tactics, it was a shaky

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Speaker 7: start for Vince. But Roosevelt Roberts, I think is a

651
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Speaker 7: guy that will develop into a very good fighter.

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Speaker 3: Why.

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Speaker 7: I think he's a true martial artist. He's trying to

654
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Speaker 7: get better, he's hungry, he has that killer instinct without

655
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Speaker 7: getting overly emotional. He's very composed, But I think it

656
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 7: was just the right decision making for Vince Bochelle that

657
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 7: won him that fight. Was able to take him down,

658
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Speaker 7: control him, slow down the action.

659
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Speaker 6: And Vince Pachelle has dealt with a lot of adversity,

660
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 6: some of it I guess brought on by himself a

661
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 6: little bit. He was in a motorcycle accident and with

662
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 6: an injury history that read a mile long prior. Maybe

663
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 6: that wasn't the greatest decision in his fighting prime, but

664
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Speaker 6: he's dealt with a lot of personal professional adversity, and

665
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 6: I just can't help but feel so good for Vince Pachelle.

666
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 6: He's twelve and two, He's won five of his last

667
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 6: six in the UFC, and the only loss in there

668
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Speaker 6: to the still undefeated Gregor Gillespie, who I believe is

669
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Speaker 6: ranked right now at one hundred and fifty five pounds.

670
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Speaker 6: So I'm excited for Vince. This was the last fight

671
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Speaker 6: on his contract. We'll see if he is able to

672
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 6: get a new contract from the UFC. But you gotta

673
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 6: feel good for Vince Pachelle. Gotta feel good for Drew

674
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 6: Dober as well.

675
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Speaker 3: Ken Flow.

676
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Speaker 6: You know, he's a guy who has constantly evolved and

677
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 6: maybe the signature finish like this had eluded him in

678
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,479
Speaker 6: the past. But nice to see Drew Dober, who's been

679
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 6: a lot of wars, get a sixty seven second night

680
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Speaker 6: at the office.

681
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

682
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Speaker 7: Absolutely, he was going to work, man. It seemed like

683
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 7: he wanted to get him out of there pretty quickly,

684
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 7: and you know, was able to get on the inside

685
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 7: of his opponent and Lando's big strikes. He was throwing

686
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 7: the straight punches and I think Rays was throwing kind

687
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 7: of the hooks and that was kind of the difference

688
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 7: as they were trading in the pocket, and the other

689
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 7: I think difference was his ability to really sit down

690
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 7: on his punches and land with power. So Drew Dober

691
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 7: is definitely one of those guys to watch. He always

692
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 7: shows up to fight and an exciting fighter for sure.

693
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 6: And I do think Polar Rays's future is probably going

694
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 6: to be in the featherweight division. You look at him

695
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 6: as a six footer and think, I don't know, but

696
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 6: he tried to come in heavy because of Dober's frame

697
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 6: and power and everything else, and he only had six

698
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 6: pounds to cut. You know, he just has a fast metabolism.

699
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 6: He was hoping to cut like fifteen, and you know,

700
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 6: just body isn't keeping the weight, so I think you

701
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 6: might see Polar Rayis try to sort of do the

702
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 6: career reset thing in the featherweight division. Last thing on

703
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 6: the main card can flow, and don't have to go

704
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 6: too long on this, but I'm very intrigued to see

705
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Speaker 6: how far Alonzo Menifield can take this thing. He defeats

706
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Speaker 6: Paul Craig in three minutes by knockout, and Menifield he's

707
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 6: built like the side of a backyard shed.

708
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 3: You know, he doesn't necessarily look like a light heavyweight.

709
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 6: I mean, he really looks like a middleweight to me,

710
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 6: despite the fact that it's very difficult for him to

711
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 6: make this two hundred and five pound limit. Former Arena

712
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 6: League football player, a tremendous athlete and definitely has an

713
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 6: anganu quality to his power, But I also think there's

714
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 6: an accuracy and an efficiency to his hands. He's just

715
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 6: a very good, in my opinion, natural puncher and boxer,

716
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 6: and he doesn't miss the target even when it's moving,

717
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 6: and he certainly didn't miss Paul Craig's chin when Craig

718
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 6: was on the way down here. Nice knockout and the

719
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 6: accompanying bonus for Alonzo Menifield.

720
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought that Minifield stayed very calm and composed

721
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 7: as well. I think he was patient throughout that fight.

722
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 7: He was looking for his opportunities. Might not be the

723
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 7: fastest guy in that division, but he does carry power.

724
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 7: I thought he was way more technicol than Paul Craig,

725
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 7: who I thought had some good ideas but just wasn't

726
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 7: throwing the right strikes at the right time. And I

727
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 7: think that really was the difference of what allowed Metafield

728
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 7: to land that big shot. Paul Craig threw a spinning

729
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 7: attack when he really shouldn't have. And again, when you

730
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 7: look at guys who can finish at the highest levels

731
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 7: in the UFC, you have to be opportunistic.

732
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 3: You have to have that killer instick. That's exactly what

733
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 3: Metafield did.

734
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 6: All Right, great show in Minneapolis, and we'll have some

735
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 6: final thoughts on the show, just in terms of this

736
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 6: theme of personal adversity on this fight card at the

737
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 6: end of the show, which I happen to think is

738
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 6: very interesting. But twelve fights in Minneapolis, seven of them

739
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 6: in by knockout or TKO, and certainly as a play

740
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 6: by play guy, you're not complaining when that is your reality?

741
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: All right, good stuff from the flow there.

742
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 6: Before we get to the main event challenge, it's time

743
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 6: for the pronunciation of the week.

744
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 3: TJ.

745
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 6: I think is three and six. After a loser last week.

746
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 6: This fighter fights Chance Ren Counter on the UFC Fight

747
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 6: Pass prelim this weekend at UFC two thirty nine.

748
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: They call him the Austrian wonder Boy.

749
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 6: He is eighteen and two after a win in his

750
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 6: UFC debut against a very tough Michell Praserish.

751
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: TJ DeSantis, of whom I might speak, is it Ishmael

752
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: nor d'ev? It is not, TJ. You're three and seven.

753
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 3: Let's hear how he says, though.

754
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 6: The Austrian wonder Boy is smile Nordev twice slowly, the

755
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 6: Austrian wonder Boy, you smile Nordev.

756
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 3: It's smile now our DV. So yeah, that's that's that's

757
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 3: not going to cut a TJ. Hey, I don't I

758
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 3: don't blame you on that one. I definitely sucked there.

759
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 6: Sorry, I didn't give you a lot of turnaround time

760
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 6: to think about this one.

761
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 3: When is the next Invicta FC broadcast? It is August ninth.

762
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 3: All right, So is that a Friday? I believe so.

763
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 6: All right, So that Monday, which I think is August fifth,

764
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 6: my job is birthday. We will we will do an

765
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 6: in Victor FC pronunciation of the week, and you can

766
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 6: turn the tables and so for all the TJ to

767
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 6: Santas fans out there, they'll see me go zero to one,

768
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 6: and that'll be your proof that it's not easy when

769
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 6: you're just trying to do it dry. So TJ's three

770
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 6: and seven. Nonetheless, thankfully his paycheck is not inexorably linked

771
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 6: to his pronunciation of the week record.

772
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 3: All right, big week for Ken Flow in Minneapolis. Let's

773
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 3: recap it.

774
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 6: Get to the picks for UFC two thirty nine and

775
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 6: the Main Event Challenge.

776
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 4: It's the Main Event Challenge and the.

777
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 3: Time is most definitely.

778
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 4: Fish fine.

779
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 3: How do you everything?

780
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 2: Both will do?

781
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 4: Win the Main Event Challenge with John Nnick and Kenny

782
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 4: Florian podcast.

783
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 3: All right, Ken Flow, I'm gonna take you back to

784
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 3: April eighth. Okay, alrighty.

785
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 6: On April eighth, Team Annik led the Main Event Challenge

786
00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 6: fifty one to thirty four is seventeen point lead. It

787
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 6: was the single largest Main event challenge lead in the

788
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 6: more than four year history of the Anak and Florian podcast.

789
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 6: Ken Flow had shaved that lead down to seventy seven

790
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 6: to sixty nine going into Minneapolis, and Flow beats Ian

791
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 6: Parker ten to six. Florian goes six and zero on

792
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 6: the week that included the big upset winner on Vince Pachell.

793
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 6: So if you did tail flows bets last week, you

794
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 6: certainly made a lot of money, maybe even as much

795
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 6: money as our incumbent, Ian Parker, who hit a bunch

796
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 6: of big parlays over the weekend. And Ian now joins

797
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 6: us Live so Ian big picture though, so ten favorites

798
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 6: cash in the twelve UFC fights this weekend. That usually

799
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 6: means a big night for betters in the sportsbook and

800
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 6: mixed martial arts, and not a good night for the book.

801
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 6: I guess a lot of betters, I think square or

802
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 6: otherwise when they're betting MMA, they do play big parlays

803
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 6: which include a lot of chok guys like Alonzo Menifield

804
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 6: and Drew Dober and all of those guys came in

805
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 6: Saturday night.

806
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's interesting. In my opinion, this is

807
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 5: how it's supposed to go with certain fights, and normally,

808
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 5: obviously it all comes down to the styles matchups. It's

809
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 5: just these favorites. This week, they all favored their styles.

810
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 5: There wasn't a whole lot to do it, you know.

811
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 5: Paul Craig obviously through that really stupid spinning kick, and

812
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 5: to Kenny's point, he had some good ideas. He was

813
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 5: doing some good things. I think. Actually, Menfield was fighting

814
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 5: a little bit, not a whole lot there in the beginning.

815
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 5: You heard his corner yelling at him get off the cage,

816
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 5: get off the cage in the beginning, and Craig was

817
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 5: using his range a little bit. He makes one mistake

818
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 5: and the guy with that power, you know, Drew Dover.

819
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 5: You know, obviously we all mentioned how he shouldn't have

820
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 5: been that high of a favorite. Maybe he should have been.

821
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 5: That was pretty intense, and then it was interesting. There

822
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 5: was some lines, like Joey Benavidez that I just couldn't

823
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 5: understand why the line dropped as well as it did.

824
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 5: But I was loving every minute of it because everyone

825
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 5: just so hyped on the forminga trade that the train

826
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 5: that he's one of the last few fights, but everyone

827
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 5: forgets how good Joey is, that he keeps evolving too,

828
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 5: and he looked unbelievable. Yeah, other than that, everything was

829
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 5: just everything was just crazy. I haven't seen a night

830
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 5: like that in a really long time, you know. I

831
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 5: did write to Ken Flow. I hope Minshell beats me

832
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 5: in the main event challenge, because I did end up

833
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 5: throwing him in a little bit something small the Roseault

834
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 5: Roberts had the first round there. He just kind of

835
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 5: didn't do anything in the last two rounds. Just what

836
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 5: a What a really interesting betting weekend for every once

837
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 5: everyone that you know made money. Good for you. I

838
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 5: hope it keeps going because this weekend's gonna be an

839
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 5: interesting one. But this past weekend, I don't think I've

840
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 5: ever seen anything like it. But in a good way.

841
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 3: It's interesting.

842
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 6: I mean, you say it's interesting and crazy, and to

843
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 6: me it's almost like the opposite of that in a

844
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 6: lot of respects, right that it just was sort of

845
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 6: status quo, And I think you're absolutely right. Styles making fights,

846
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 6: and a lot of those were favorable matchups, But to me,

847
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 6: it was just very chalky, and I think for the

848
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 6: first time, I guess in a little while, there wasn't

849
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 6: much that surprised you.

850
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, man, That's what I was

851
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 5: referring to that usually somebody comes out of the woodwork

852
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 5: and throws us all for a major current ball and

853
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 5: we all spoke off record. I just didn't see any

854
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 5: of that really happening. And that's that's what I was

855
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 5: surprised about it. I was thinking that somebody was gonna

856
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 5: throw a wrench in there and be that crazy underdog

857
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 5: no one expected. I mean, Dan Morant almost did it

858
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 5: against Jared Gordon, and Gordon was a minus three fifty five,

859
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 5: you know, so I guess that was the only one

860
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 5: that kind of had the threat there.

861
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 6: Other than that, Wow, you know, well, I can I

862
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 6: can assure you folks that uh that it was not

863
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 6: a good weekend for for Ian Parker's bookie down here

864
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 6: in South Florida, and I have the text messages to

865
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 6: prove it. Ken Flow probably didn't text you back. If

866
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 6: I were him, I definitely wouldn't text you back.

867
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 5: My messaged on Instagram. He doesn't follow me, but he

868
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 5: did respond.

869
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 3: A I may have, I may have.

870
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 7: I may have a couple underdog picks this week this

871
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 7: week though, boys, So yeah, Ken Flows like I have

872
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 7: a jiu jitsu training session like five minutes ago.

873
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 3: Can you guys stop fucking dicking around, right you?

874
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 6: Two thirty nine, so Ken Flow has shaved the lead,

875
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 6: by the way, so it was seventy seven to sixty nine,

876
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 6: ten to six. My math tells me that that would

877
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 6: make it seventy nine points for ken Flow and eighty three.

878
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 6: It's down to four. I mean two months later, it's

879
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 6: down to fucking four points, all right. First fight for

880
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 6: us one of these prelims that you can see on

881
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 6: ESPN this weekend, Cloudsigadelia Monus two fifty Random Marcos plus

882
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 6: two ten Ian Strawait's here.

883
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: Who do you like?

884
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go Claudia on this one. I think she's

885
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 5: just better everywhere over Randa. I do give random credit

886
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 5: against Angela Hill in her last fight. I'm surprised that

887
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 5: people you know weren't betting on Rando in that fight.

888
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 5: I like her wrestling. I think her cardio's there, that's

889
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 5: the only concern with Claudia. But Claudia going into three

890
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 5: rounds fight, I think she learned her lesson over the

891
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 5: last couple of fights where she was expecting to dominate

892
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 5: and she just didn't. I'm thinking her wrestling is better

893
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 5: than Randa's. I think her striking is leaps and bounds

894
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 5: ahead of Random Marcos. I do think in this fight, though,

895
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 5: Claudia is probably better off keeping this fight standing up,

896
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 5: even though of her jiu jitsu is game. I get

897
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 5: worried sometimes that she kind of takes it for granted,

898
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 5: and Randa's pretty strong for this division, good wrestler, but

899
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 5: I'm still going Claudia in this one. She just has

900
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 5: fought way better competition and has done very well. Randa

901
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 5: has not gotten there yet, and I don't think she

902
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 5: gets past Claudia in this one.

903
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 6: Ken Flow first start of twenty nineteen for Clouds Gagadelia,

904
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 6: she's lost two of three. On the other side, Marcos

905
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 6: has been a real workhourse of late twelfth UFC appearance

906
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 6: for her fifth start since the start of twenty eighteen,

907
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 6: unbeaten in her last two, finished Angela Hill in March.

908
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 6: Chance to get the biggest win of her career here

909
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 6: against Gadelia, and that would be by a wide margin

910
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 6: with respect to previous victims of Random Marcos. I think

911
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 6: we're gonna get the best version of Random Marcos. Question

912
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 6: is will it be enough against Gadelia.

913
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 7: I think we will as well. I'm not sure it's

914
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 7: gonna be enough. However, I think Randa is very tough.

915
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 7: I think she's the kind of girl that's not gonna

916
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,959
Speaker 7: quit to the bell sounds. I think she's a little

917
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 7: bit unorthodox, which throws off a lot of fighters. She

918
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 7: is good, you know, pretty decent on the ground. I

919
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 7: think Claudia Gadelia is just better, like Ian said, everywhere.

920
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 7: I think if Randa wants to go to the ground,

921
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 7: I think Claudia is gonna be able to stop those

922
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 7: takedowns or get on top. I think Claudia is going

923
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 7: to be much sharper on the feet, and I think

924
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 7: that's where she can win the fight, all right.

925
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 6: Next up featured prelim in the featherweight division, Arnold Allen

926
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 6: minus three hundred against the returning Gilbert Melendez, who is

927
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 6: plus two fifty shannie five and oh start for Arnold

928
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 6: Almighty Allen in the UFC, he is favored pretty significantly here,

929
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 6: Ian to keep it going, What do you think about

930
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 6: Alan and Melendez in the featured prelim?

931
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 5: Well, you know what, it's kind of this this is

932
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 5: a hard one. I know, Alan's on the up and up,

933
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 5: and Gilbert Melendez is still Gilbert Melendez. I just don't

934
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 5: man this weight class. It's hard me to take Gilbert

935
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 5: on this one. I have a feeling if Keny's gonna

936
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 5: take a shot on an underdog, this may be the one.

937
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 5: I just can't go for it. I think I like

938
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 5: what I've seen out of Arnold Allen so far. I

939
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 5: think it kind of plays into the matchup with Gilbert.

940
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 5: I don't think he is going to allow a brawl

941
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 5: in which Gilbert has kind of fell into in the

942
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 5: last few fights and we're not seeing And I've known

943
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 5: Gilbert on this for a really long time. It was

944
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 5: one of the nicest guys out there, and I love

945
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 5: what he does for ESPN. But he is not He's

946
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 5: just so inactive and at this point in his career,

947
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 5: the amount of damage he's taken that of epic warns

948
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 5: he's been in. I just think Alan's going to be

949
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 5: too fast for him. I think it's just a guy

950
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 5: on the up and up and another guy who's kind

951
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 5: of heetering. I'm going to go with it. I hate

952
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 5: I don't like how big of a favorite is at

953
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 5: minus three twenty five. I like it better one like

954
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 5: minus two fifty five. But I'm going to take Arnold

955
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 5: Allan here to get a big name on his resume and.

956
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 6: Move forward, all right, Arnold Allen free and Parker Gilbert

957
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 6: Melendez back for the first time Ken Flow since UFC

958
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 6: two fifteen. That was September of twenty seventeen when Jeremy

959
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 6: Stevens beat him. So the last win for Melendez UFC

960
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 6: won sixty six Diego Sanchez October twenty thirteen. Hasn't been

961
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 6: finished since Pettis got him in twenty fourteen, but it's

962
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 6: been a long time since Melendez had that hand raised

963
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 6: in the octagon.

964
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: Can flow? How do you handicap his chances this weekend?

965
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 7: Two very nice and tough guys going out of here.

966
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 7: I think the line is a little bit too strong

967
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 7: for Arnold Allen, But I do think that Arnold Allen

968
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 7: is probably going to win, and win by decision.

969
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 3: I think will be a close fight.

970
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 7: I think Gilbert's ability to wrestle will dictate whether he

971
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 7: wins this fight or not. If he's successful with his wrestling.

972
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 7: I think gil can do some stuff here against Arnold Allen,

973
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 7: But I think Arnold Allen is gonna be a little

974
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 7: bit sharper of a striker. I think he's shown some

975
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 7: pretty decent takedown defense. I think it should be enough

976
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 7: to get a decision win over Gilbert Melendez. And it's

977
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 7: tough to say what kind of gil we're gonna see.

978
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 7: We don't see him too often, and I'm not sure

979
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 7: I love him at one hundred and forty five pounds.

980
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 7: I think it might be a little bit too much

981
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 7: of a cut for him.

982
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 3: But I don't know. I have Arnold Allen going in there.

983
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 6: And getting a decision win, all right, Arnold Allen by

984
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 6: decision for Ken Flow that brings us to the main

985
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 6: cat for UFC two thirty nine. Jones versus Santo's teamovel

986
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 6: Arena Las Vegas, Nevada at welch or wait Michael Kisa

987
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 6: Monas three forty Diego Sanchez plus two eighty Ian Diego

988
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 6: Sanchez has broken away from Jackson Wink Mma. He goes

989
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 6: for a third consecutive win here. Who do you like

990
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 6: Kiessa or Diego Sanchez?

991
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 5: I like Kiyessa here as much as Diego is so

992
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 5: much fun to watch another guy who's just taken so

993
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 5: much damage, And I just don't know if he is

994
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 5: going to have success getting Kiss to the ground. I

995
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 5: don't think Diego's brawling nature is going to do anything.

996
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 5: Kiessa has seen that before and he's done fine. I

997
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 5: think Cassa is better on the ground. You know when Diego, Sorry, Kenny,

998
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 5: I don't mean to throw you in this one. When

999
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 5: when Diego won the open fighter got into the UFC,

1000
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 5: the biggest thing was the brawl. Get to the ground,

1001
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 5: ground and pound, and just now, unless he's fighting someone

1002
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 5: is going to brawl with him. That's his only Sean.

1003
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 5: I think cass is just too smart of a fighter here.

1004
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 5: I think Kissa probably wins this one by submission. I

1005
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 5: don't think he's gonna risk his new revamped weight class,

1006
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 5: his new fresh start at in this part of his career,

1007
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 5: so I can't run the dog on this one. I

1008
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 5: think Kissa is going to win this one pretty decisively,

1009
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 5: and I'm standing by the.

1010
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 6: Well and win or lose for Michael, Kissa's last five

1011
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 6: fights have ended with a submission, so Ian perhaps some

1012
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 6: value there if you're looking at the prop side of things.

1013
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 6: On the other side, Kenny thirtieth UFC fight for Diego Sanchez,

1014
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 6: he goes into the UFC Hall of Fame on Friday night,

1015
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 6: And there are a lot of fighters that just wouldn't

1016
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 6: have that the night before a fight.

1017
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 3: You know, Kenny Floory in one of them.

1018
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 6: Right, There's no way you'd be giving a Hall of

1019
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 6: Fame speech the night before a mixed martial arts fight.

1020
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 6: But if anyone can do it, I think it's Diego

1021
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 6: Sanchez certainly. I like him at one seventy more than

1022
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 6: I like him at forty five or fifty five. At

1023
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 6: this stage of his career and not fighting a guy

1024
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 6: necessarily who has a ton of glaring advantages against him, size, strength,

1025
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 6: maybe MMA grappling. I don't know your thoughts on Sanchez

1026
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 6: and Kisa. Well, I think that Ian Parker got it

1027
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 6: wrong here. I think that Diego Sanchez, if he's facing

1028
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 6: another grappler, you better, you better be damn good. And

1029
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 6: I don't know if Michael Kissa is that guy. I

1030
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 6: think Michael Kissa is good as far as a mixed

1031
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 6: martial arts grappler. I think he's definitely strong, but uh,

1032
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 6: I don't know if he's someone who can submit someone.

1033
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 7: Like Diego Sanchez. I don't know if Diego has ever

1034
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 7: been submitted in his career. So I think if he brawls,

1035
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 7: if Diego is going against a good brawler, a good striker,

1036
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 7: I think that's.

1037
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 3: For Diego's in trouble.

1038
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 7: Diego's chin isn't what it used to be, so I

1039
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 7: think that I give him a chance here. I would

1040
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 7: go with an underdog pick here. I think Diego Sanchez

1041
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 7: is gonna be better at scrambling. I think Kissa might

1042
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 7: be a bit more dangerous with the actual submissions. But

1043
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 7: I think Diego, with his ability to scramble, get good

1044
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 7: position and ground and pound, I think that's gonna be

1045
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 7: the different difference here. And I see Diego pulling off

1046
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 7: a decision when upset.

1047
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you're right. I can't remember a time

1048
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 6: that Diego Sanchez was submitted.

1049
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 7: I mean yeah, I mean you look at guys like

1050
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 7: Marchen Held, Jim Miller, you know, you know, Mickey Gall

1051
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 7: Craig White, who kind of came from some jego, was

1052
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 7: just able to just completely dominate those guys on the ground.

1053
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 6: Right, had he fought a prime Kenny Florian, he might

1054
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 6: have been submitted. But he fought the soccer players five

1055
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 6: all right, Luke Rockold minus one sixty five versus Jan

1056
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 6: Bohovich plus one thirty five Ian Parker light heavyweight debut

1057
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 6: for the former UFC midleweight champion rock Hold. He'll fight

1058
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 6: out of the blue corner though, because of course Jan

1059
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 6: Bohovich is established credential in the division, already number six

1060
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 6: in the world.

1061
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 3: What do you think about the line and ultimately which

1062
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 3: way you go?

1063
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 5: Well, one, I wish I got a rebuttal on that

1064
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 5: Diego Sanchez, Michael Kiss and the way Kenny was totally

1065
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 5: discreditling my breakdown there. But that's that's okay. I know

1066
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 5: how it goes on the show. We're good. I am

1067
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 5: extremely excited for Luke rock Hole at two oh five.

1068
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 5: I think it's nice to get some new people involved

1069
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 5: in this division, and I think this is a pretty

1070
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 5: good matchup for him. Nothing to take away from Jan.

1071
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 5: I think Jan's a very solid fighter, but we all

1072
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 5: know in this division there and there lacks some serious depths.

1073
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 5: I don't know if you put any other division, if

1074
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 5: a guy like Jan would be even in the top

1075
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 5: eight or top ten, you know, especially just that division.

1076
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 5: A just it's very hard to kind of place people

1077
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 5: there after a couple of wins. I think this matchup

1078
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 5: they'll plays very well into Luke's strength. For those of

1079
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 5: you that don't know, Luke is a huge dude.

1080
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 3: Guys like you're absolutely I'm glad, so I will cut

1081
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 3: you off. I hate to cut you off.

1082
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 6: I hate to cut you off, but I'm just so

1083
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 6: glad that you brought that up because anyone who has

1084
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 6: sat with Rockhold when he's waiting to weigh in as

1085
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 6: we did in Perth, Australia last February, he is an

1086
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 6: enormous middleweight and I am so excited that he will

1087
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 6: never weigh one hundred and eighty six pounds again as

1088
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 6: long as he lives.

1089
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 3: And now you can continue, well, no, no, and that's Listen.

1090
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 5: A lot of people who listen to the show or

1091
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 5: they watch, they don't realize sometimes what these guys had

1092
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 5: to cut, Like Forest Grip and should have could have

1093
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 5: played heavyweight. This dude cut so much weight. Guys like Wyman, wait,

1094
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 5: do you see the difference? And I always used to

1095
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 5: talk about him in Luke When they first started, these

1096
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 5: guys walked around between two thirty two forty. Not having

1097
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 5: to do a weight cut down at eighty five is

1098
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 5: going to be huge for someone like Luke I think

1099
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 5: his speed is going to be tremendous here. People forget

1100
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 5: how good of a wrestler jiujitsu practitioner he is, and

1101
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 5: his striking is so fluid and technical. I think he'll

1102
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 5: be able to I think he wins this one, and

1103
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 5: I can't believe the line is as low as it is.

1104
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 5: I'm pretty excited. I'm going Luke rock Old here without

1105
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 5: a doubt.

1106
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 6: All right, Ian Parker and in a convicted manner, going

1107
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 6: Rock Cold minus one sixty five. We'll see if we'll

1108
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 6: see if you move the betting line, because you're like

1109
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 6: Luke to the extent to which you do. Kenny yan

1110
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 6: Bohovich had won four in a row before he ran

1111
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 6: into Thiago Maheta Santos in a main event in February.

1112
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 6: Had he won that fight, he would likely be fighting

1113
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 6: John Jones for the title this Saturday night. What do

1114
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 6: you think about Behovich welcoming rock Cold to the two

1115
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 6: hundred and five pound of vision.

1116
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 7: All right, well, listen, I think Bhovich is gonna win.

1117
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 7: I think Behovich is going to win this fight here

1118
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 7: against Luke Rockold. This is my other underdog pit pick

1119
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 7: when I've seen Luke Rockhold compete for so long, and

1120
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 7: he was good for a while.

1121
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 3: You know.

1122
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 7: The only thing is there was always that dropping of

1123
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 7: the right hand, which which made him susceptible to that

1124
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 7: left hook. And obviously we know what happened with Bisping,

1125
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 7: but it's something that hasn't been fixed. If it hasn't

1126
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 7: been fixed after that, when is it going to be fixed.

1127
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 7: When I see these things that aren't being addressed, that

1128
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 7: concerns me, and I think this is going to be

1129
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 7: a concern, especially at two hundred and five pounds. I

1130
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 7: don't think Luke Rockold is going to be undersized in

1131
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 7: this division against someone like a Bohovich, but I do

1132
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 7: think it's going to be concerned. And Behovich is tough.

1133
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 7: He can't pressure you. I think if he has that

1134
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 7: style and has the ability to keep the fight on

1135
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 7: the feet, which I think he can, I think he

1136
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 7: wins this fight. I don't know if he's gonna win

1137
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 7: by knockout, but I do think he'll hurt Luke at

1138
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 7: some point during this fight and at least win by decision.

1139
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 3: So I like Behovich here for my underdog pick.

1140
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 6: All right, So back to back disagreements, which we absolutely

1141
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 6: love that brings us to the fight that jumps off

1142
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 6: the card for me and many others, the grudge match

1143
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 6: between Ben Askron, the monus two to twenty five favorite

1144
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 6: and Jorge game Bred Mosfidal, the plus one eighty five

1145
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 6: underdog Ian Parker.

1146
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 3: You'll lead on this one.

1147
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 6: I'll have Ken Flow lead on the comin event handicap

1148
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 6: it Askron Mosfidal.

1149
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 5: This one is the most interesting fight line wise, everything

1150
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 5: across the board. You know, your typical rappler striker situation here.

1151
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 5: The question is how fast does Ben get mazmad All

1152
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 5: to the ground, because Mazidol, when he's fought against other grapplers,

1153
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 5: has been taken down pretty much with ease.

1154
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 3: You know.

1155
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 5: To me, I have a feeling this fight kind of

1156
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 5: goes the same way as it did win on Maswell

1157
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 5: Bad Damien Maa. You know, listen, you can be as

1158
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 5: good as you are in the UFC, and you can

1159
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 5: work take down defense and work takedown defense. Could be

1160
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 5: amazing at jiu jitsu and all that good stuff, but

1161
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 5: it doesn't mean that you're still a little prevent a

1162
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 5: guy like Dami Maya or a guy like Ben Askrin.

1163
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 5: Yet you down. People want to rank on aspirin for

1164
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 5: not really beating Robbie Waller. Fine, I understand the controversy there,

1165
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 5: but I wanted you put something in perspective. Ben obviously

1166
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 5: did not expect Robbie to dump on his head take

1167
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 5: all that damage. Well, let's look at that. He took

1168
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 5: all that damage, came back and did win the fight,

1169
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 5: or was at least in a position to win that fight,

1170
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 5: whether we all want to consider that ending controversial or not.

1171
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 5: I don't think Mazidal is going to have a strength

1172
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 5: thing here. I think the only advantage he has is

1173
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 5: going to be the striking. I think Ben obviously got

1174
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 5: a root awakening in that first few minutes in the UFC.

1175
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 5: He had a lot of pressure on him in fight

1176
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 5: in a while. I can't bet against Askrin here, though.

1177
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 5: I just think his ground game it's going to go

1178
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 5: there at some point, And if Robbie couldn't knock Ben out,

1179
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 5: I don't think Mazidell does. Askron's got a good chin.

1180
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 5: I'm sorry for ranting like this, It's just this is

1181
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 5: literally how you got to do with this fight. Maybe

1182
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 5: Kenny underdog here for a third one and disagree. I

1183
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 5: don't know. I just think Askron is gonna get this

1184
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 5: fight to the ground of Once he does, it's all him.

1185
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 5: So I'm going Ben.

1186
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 6: Canceller Ben Astron nineteen and oh with a no contest.

1187
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 6: This would appear to be the most complete fighter he's

1188
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 6: ever faced. In my mind, Mosfeedal firmly in his fighting prime,

1189
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 6: confidence at an all time high, doesn't have to worry

1190
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 6: about the weight cut to one hundred and fifty six pounds.

1191
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 6: He's fought sixteen times in the UFC. All of that said,

1192
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 6: he's a near plus two hundred underdog here this weekend,

1193
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 6: and there's got to be a reason why Askron or

1194
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 6: Mosfidal for.

1195
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 3: You, John, do you see what I do? Do you

1196
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 3: see what I do here?

1197
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 7: I got him shaking in his boots down, doubting himself.

1198
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 7: I mean, now he doesn't know what to demaze. It

1199
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 7: completely fucking amazing. No, listen, I think he had got

1200
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 7: this one right though. As much as I'm a huge

1201
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 7: Masiti vir Dolf fan, I just I don't know if

1202
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 7: he has the power necessarily to knock out a guy

1203
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 7: like Askron, who's who can be careful in his approach. Now,

1204
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 7: he took some huge shots against Robbie he's got a

1205
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 7: chint from hell, but I do think that was quite

1206
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 7: a vicious debut for him and welcoming to the UFC,

1207
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 7: and I think he's gonna be a little bit smarter

1208
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 7: this time around against someone like Masvidal. I think he'll

1209
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 7: be much more careful in his approach. But I do

1210
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 7: think he's it's gonna be another, you know, clinic. As

1211
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 7: far as wrestling. You look at Maya's performance against Masvidal

1212
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 7: and his ability to take Masvidal down. I think Askrin

1213
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 7: is going to be able to do that here against Mosvidal.

1214
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 7: Control him, slow the.

1215
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 3: Pace, down, work his ground and pound, chip away and

1216
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 3: win by decision.

1217
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 6: All Right, A couple plays there on Ben Askrin from

1218
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 6: the Fellas. That brings us to the co headliner for

1219
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 6: the UFC Women's Spanhamwaight Championship. We will have ken Flow

1220
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 6: lead here Amanda non as minus three thirty five Holly

1221
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 6: Holm comes back at plus two seventy five title fight,

1222
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 6: which means we'll need the round and the method of victory.

1223
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,479
Speaker 6: Ken Flow who leaves Vegas the UFC's undisputed Women's Spanhamwaight Queen.

1224
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 7: You know, John, I love both of these ladies and

1225
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 7: I think they're tremendous fighters. I just think that Holly

1226
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 7: Home I haven't seen a comfortable, calm and compose a

1227
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 7: relaxed Holly Home and the octagon as of right now,

1228
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 7: and with all of her combat experience, you.

1229
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 3: Know, it's just surprising to me.

1230
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,919
Speaker 7: I think Holly has the skills potentially to win this fight,

1231
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 7: but her being just a little bit too tense in

1232
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 7: fights sometimes I don't think she's able to pull the

1233
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 7: trigger the way that she wants. And I also think

1234
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 7: it takes away from her ability to be even faster

1235
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 7: when you're that tense.

1236
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 3: So I think Amanda nun As wins this fight.

1237
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 7: I think Nunez is going to be able to keep

1238
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 7: the pressure on her land the strikes. I think she's

1239
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 7: going to have to be very good as far as

1240
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 7: cutting off the octagon against someone like Holly Holme.

1241
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna take her a little bit.

1242
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 7: I think Holly is very durable, but I think Amanda

1243
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 7: Nunas is eventually going to get to her and get

1244
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 7: a t KO around round four.

1245
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 6: Four TKO for Amanda Nunez is the pick to click

1246
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 6: for Ken flow Ian. Holly Holm has lost four of

1247
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 6: six since the win over Ronda Rousey in twenty fifteen.

1248
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 6: But you can also say she's won two of her

1249
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 6: last three, the latest of which over Megan Anderson that

1250
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 6: was rather decisive at UFC two twenty five in Chicago.

1251
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 6: It was back in June of twenty eighteen, so pretty

1252
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 6: extended layoff here for Holly Holm, what kind of chance

1253
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 6: do you give the preacher's daughter against the lion es

1254
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 6: Amanda Nunas.

1255
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 5: I just think it's impossible to go against a man

1256
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 5: in Nunia is based on what we've seen over the

1257
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 5: last with her as in the champ and at a

1258
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 5: double champ. Her confidence is riding high. She's put everything together.

1259
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 5: It's just impressive. And I think Kenny, as much as

1260
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 5: I want to mess around and say you don't know

1261
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 5: what you're talking about, you got him shaken in his boots.

1262
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 5: I'm not shaking anything, relax over. But you know the

1263
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 5: thing is he's right with Holly. She gets too tense,

1264
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 5: too hesitan For someone as as much experience, it's kind

1265
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 5: of bizarre, especially when we know a man in Unia

1266
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 5: is a sewn out, confident in her hands. This is

1267
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 5: kind of what Holly wants. She doesn't want a man.

1268
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 5: Nunia has to take her down. You know, Holly, I

1269
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 5: don't care how much you train off your back again

1270
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 5: as long as you've been in this game. Look what

1271
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 5: Misha did to her with ease.

1272
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 3: You know.

1273
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 5: I think Amanda just is too much. And if she

1274
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 5: dominates on the feet, Holly's in trouble. I think She's

1275
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 5: gonna hit a couple power shots early that are really

1276
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 5: gonna throw Holly off. I'm gonna do a little prices

1277
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 5: right here because I literally was going to say the

1278
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,959
Speaker 5: same thing as Kenny, so I always say TKO round three,

1279
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 5: but I wouldn't be shocked at Nunya somehow. If Holly

1280
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 5: puts up a decent striking battle of Nunya's goes in

1281
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 5: for the shot and takes her down, but we'll go

1282
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 5: TKO round three, Amanda Nuna's.

1283
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, it'll both be very patient here. It's just one

1284
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 7: other thing. Nunas has to be very patient here. She

1285
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 7: can't think that she's going against someone like a Holly

1286
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 7: Holme that she's gonna be able to take her out

1287
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 7: like she did her other opponents early. Like Cyboard, Holly

1288
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 7: is a different fighter than a Cyboard.

1289
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 6: And thankfully for a man in Nunas. That is a

1290
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 6: serious power corner. And you can be sure for Conan

1291
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Speaker 6: Silvera and Dean Thomas and everybody else could tell Kubis

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Speaker 6: they are mindful of that and certainly aware of that.

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01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 6: Of course, sometimes instincts take over. But good analysis from

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Speaker 6: you guys. Nonetheless, all right, John Jones and Thiago Santo's

1295
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 6: for the UFC's undisputed light heavyweight title Jones minus six

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01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 6: hundred Santos plus four point fifty huge price. That still

1297
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 6: doesn't mean there isn't value on John Jones will need

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Speaker 6: the round of the method as well. Ian, what do

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Speaker 6: you think about the light heavyweight title fight this weekend?

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Speaker 5: This is I mean, listen, John Jones arguably one of

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01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 5: the best fighters. It's not the best of all time. Here,

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01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 5: I don't really see him having too much trouble after

1303
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 5: the first you know, once to get out of the

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01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 5: first round, Thiago's going to come out and throw everything

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Speaker 5: at him.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 5: And I just think Jones he's such a cerebral fighter,

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Speaker 5: He's not going to get into a brawl. He doesn't

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Speaker 5: need to sit here and improved that he can knock

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Speaker 5: out Santo's. That's not you know, He's not going to

1311
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Speaker 5: pull a JDS where he feels like he has to

1312
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 5: knock out in Gan you, Jones just has to win.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't care how that doesn't matter. No one's going

1314
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Speaker 5: to question that if you even if he wins by decisions,

1315
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Speaker 5: no one's gonna knock his knock his victory here. And

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Speaker 5: like I said, this division of two o five and

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01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 5: lack so much depth that I would invite to actually

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01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 5: have seen Shiago Santos fight someone else before this to

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01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 5: give him a little bit of a challenge. All over

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Speaker 5: the places, I'm just fighting strikers where it's get knocked

1321
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 5: out or knocked out. So I'm going to go John

1322
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Speaker 5: Jones here. I'm actually going to say the one by

1323
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 5: TKO in early round three. I just don't see Santo's,

1324
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Speaker 5: you know, being able to keep up with the pace

1325
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Speaker 5: the cardio. I know he puts on a really good pace.

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Speaker 5: So I don't want Anyonet to kind of misinterpret what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying there. I'm talking about when he gets dragged

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Speaker 5: into deep waters because Jones will go to the same

1329
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Speaker 5: pace for five rounds. Thiago will go balls to the

1330
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 5: wall for the first one and a half, then he

1331
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 5: falls off so John Jones TKO round three, Well.

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Speaker 6: He didn't fall off against Jan Bohovich in PROG back

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01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 6: in February, and that guy's no picnic. But I think

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Speaker 6: your point is well taken, Ken full I'm going to

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Speaker 6: ask you a quick question before you make your predictions. So, sir,

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Speaker 6: we had this conversation in Minneapolis over the weekend. If

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Speaker 6: you had to pick one current two hundred and five

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01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 6: pound fighter in the UFC other than Daniel Cormier, which

1339
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 6: I think would be the obvious answer, to beat John

1340
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 6: Jones to save your dog's life, We're giving you one

1341
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 6: light heavyweight to pick.

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Speaker 3: Who are you taking?

1343
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Speaker 6: And I'm just gonna give you a minute to think

1344
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 6: about it while I throw a few names your way.

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Speaker 6: And I bring it up in the context of Thiago

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Speaker 6: Santos this weekend, because for me, if I needed to

1347
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Speaker 6: pick a guy to beat John Jones, I think you

1348
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 6: can do a lot worse than Thiago Santos with the

1349
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 6: crazy kicks and the capoera headkicks and everything else.

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Speaker 3: I think you go high and touch John Jones.

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01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,919
Speaker 6: It's gonna take some crazy weapon like that, some freak

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01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 6: circumstance to get this done. So if I could take

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Speaker 6: one two h five or this weekend to beat John Jones, respectfully,

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01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 6: it wouldn't be Anthony Smith or Alexander Gustafson or Dominic Reyes,

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01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 6: who I don't think is ready. I don't think Yankloahova

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01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 6: is fast enough. The two names I thought of other

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Speaker 6: than Thiago Santos were Alexander Rockets, who's just getting going,

1358
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 6: and Johnny Walker.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 6: But if I had to take a two hundred and

1361
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Speaker 6: five pounder to beat John Jones, I don't know. I

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01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 6: think Santos might have more of a shot than a

1363
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 6: lot of people are giving him credit. Who do you

1364
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,439
Speaker 6: think is the two hundred and five pounder that's gonna

1365
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 6: beat this guy? If it's not Maheta John Ya, Yes, listen,

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Speaker 6: I agree with you, man, Listen. I think it's Thiago Santos,

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Speaker 6: I really do. I think this is a guy that

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01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 6: has five minutes to win this fight. Okay, If he's

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01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 6: gonna win this fight, it's got to be in the

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Speaker 6: first round.

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Speaker 3: Why.

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Speaker 7: Number One, he can surprise you with his aggression. That's

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01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 7: something that throws off a lot of fighters, even the

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01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 7: most experienced ones. Number Two, I think John Jones is

1375
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 7: the kind of guy who takes a little bit of

1376
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 7: time to warm up.

1377
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 3: He likes to analyze you.

1378
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 7: All the great fighters with the great minds, with the

1379
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 7: great fight i cus will look at what you're doing, assess,

1380
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 7: and then fucking systematically take you out.

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Speaker 3: That's what makes John Jones uh the goat really in

1382
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 3: my opinion.

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01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 7: Right And I think if Santos can just go at

1384
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 7: him and just make this a five minute fight, he

1385
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 7: has that chance.

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01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 3: I really believe that.

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Speaker 7: But I think John Jones his reach, his defense, He's

1388
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 7: become so much better defensively as a He frames extremely

1389
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 7: well to keep you on the outside with that long reach.

1390
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 7: He knows how to keep you on the outside with

1391
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 7: his legs as well, whether he's attacking your knee with

1392
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 7: the obleaque kick, or he's going down the middle with

1393
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 7: that stab, with that foot stab down to your stomach,

1394
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 7: or with that roundhouse kick. He has so many damn weapons,

1395
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 7: and he has so much more experience to make him

1396
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 7: that much better. I see John Jones getting a TKO

1397
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 7: win in round two. That's my pick.

1398
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 3: But I agree with you, if there's one guy to

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01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 3: get it done at Thiago Santos. The problem is he's

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01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 3: got five minutes to do it.

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01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree with all of that Jones by TKO

1402
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 6: and round two is the pick for Ken Flow. You

1403
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 6: can be sure not unlike Junior Del Santo's this past

1404
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 6: weekend against Francisin Gano, that Thiago santos Ian is not

1405
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 6: going to be intimidated. And Ian Parker incidentally is a

1406
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 6: dog breeder on the side. So with your most valuable

1407
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 6: dogs life on the line, who do you think is

1408
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 6: the current two to oh fiver other than Daniel Cormier

1409
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 6: that is best equipped to beat John Jones?

1410
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 5: Not? You know what, it's so hard to pick against Santos.

1411
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 5: I was just messing around, and Kenny said it one

1412
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 5: hundred percent. I was trying to get creative. I know

1413
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,919
Speaker 5: you've brought up Ginny Walker and Wrackage Rocktch. I also

1414
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 5: was thinking of someone like Dominic Reyes. The problem is

1415
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 5: these guys aren't proven enough yet to really show us

1416
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 5: they're ready. I think someone like a Domino Grays. Athletic

1417
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 5: ability is cardio, you know, it's just But again to

1418
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 5: Kenny's point, and this is why I said this. Also,

1419
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 5: if Santos is going to do this, he has the

1420
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 5: capability within the first round, maybe first round and a

1421
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 5: half to shock you know, Jones, he is not going

1422
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 5: to be terribly undersized. Heirobo. Jones is also a huge

1423
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 5: two oh fiver. You know, he's got it. But to

1424
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 5: Kenny's point, he's got to throw everything at the kitchen,

1425
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 5: saying he's not going to beat John in a cerebral game.

1426
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 5: He doesn't have a higher fight. I Q, he's got

1427
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 5: to throw the power. He's gont We know he could

1428
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 5: eat the shots. You know, I don't think Jones is

1429
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 5: going to present anything different power wise than some of

1430
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 5: these other guys have thrown at him and he's been

1431
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 5: hit with. So yeah, if I were to put the

1432
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 5: money down and the life on the line, there are

1433
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 5: one person. I think Kenny's right. He has five minutes,

1434
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 5: maybe seven and a half but most to really do it,

1435
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 5: and then after that it's gonna be the John Jones show.

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01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 6: Well, for me, it came down to Santos and I

1438
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 6: think rocketch and Thiago Santos gets his shot this weekend.

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01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 6: Ian Parker, great job, buddy. We'll talk to you next week.

1440
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 5: You got it, guys, Thanks man.

1441
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 6: All right, one final note here on the way out

1442
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 6: in terms of this Minneapolis show. As many of you

1443
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 6: know as commentators, we now get the chance to sit

1444
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 6: down with fifteen or sixteen fighters on Thursday. The rest

1445
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 6: we talked to by phone on Tuesday. But it's so

1446
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 6: inspiring to sit down with these athletes, especially when you

1447
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 6: listen to some of the obstacles and hurdles that they've

1448
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 6: had to overcome to get to the big show. And

1449
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 6: this weekend, it just seemed like there was a lot

1450
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 6: of heavy shit can flow when we were sitting down

1451
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 6: with these fighters. So I'm just gonna run through These

1452
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 6: are just the fighters on the fight card this weekend

1453
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 6: in terms of the adversity that they experienced to get

1454
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 6: to the UFC. Roosevelt Robert's mom left when he was fourteen.

1455
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 6: This is a direct quote. I was unable to protect

1456
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 6: her from my dad as a kid. Alonso Manifield, his

1457
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 6: father was killed by LAPD in a drug fueled highway confrontation.

1458
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 6: Immigrant from Belize, he was adopted from a shelter at

1459
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 6: fourteen years old. Jerny Newssen, who fought his ass off

1460
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 6: against tokard O Homos crack Baby, grew up in foster care.

1461
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 6: Great UFC debut despite the loss for him this weekend,

1462
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 6: Jared gordon family business burned down on the fire of course,

1463
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 6: all of his drug issues in the past. Dikwon Townsend

1464
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 6: lost his son Malachi due to cancer at four years old,

1465
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 6: lost his mom as best friend, a bunch of cousins

1466
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 6: as a kid, Emily whit Meyer tough childhood, her mom

1467
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 6: still homeless in Portland, Oregon. And then you know fighters

1468
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 6: like Vince Pieschelle and Amanda he Boss experiencing adversity to

1469
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 6: whatever degree that I'm not going to get into, but

1470
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Speaker 6: it was just like fighter after fighter having all these

1471
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 6: crazy childhood circumstances, and all of us have things that

1472
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 6: happen in our lives that affect who we are and

1473
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 6: maybe where we get And I just wanted to shout

1474
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 6: out all of those fighters because just seemed like the

1475
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 6: odds were improbable for these fighters to emerge out of

1476
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,439
Speaker 6: some of the circumstances they dealt with his kids.

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Speaker 7: You know, I think it's a very powerful point that

1478
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 7: you're making, and I think that it's a reminder to

1479
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 7: all of us that it's no mistake than that all

1480
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 7: of those guys are very tough individuals who are in

1481
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 7: the profession that they're at and when things get tough,

1482
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 7: those are the things that are you gonna make people

1483
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 7: or they're gonna break people. And just remind yourself when

1484
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 7: you're going through something difficult like that, if you're able

1485
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,719
Speaker 7: to get through it, those are the things they're gonna

1486
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 7: make you who you are. Those are the things they're

1487
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 7: gonna make you tougher. And I think that's why that's

1488
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 7: what makes this sport so inspiring to people and why

1489
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 7: we respect all of these guys, and you know, it's

1490
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:37,839
Speaker 7: it's a powerful point, John.

1491
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 3: Beautiful, beautiful stuff. Are we get to get out of here.

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01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:43,440
Speaker 6: We're back right with you next Monday, we will extensively

1493
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 6: recap UFC two thirty nine. Also predictions for the Sacramento

1494
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 6: card coming up on July thirteenth, don't forget Kenflow firmly

1495
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 6: entrenched in the corner of the Great Ryan Hall.

1496
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 3: And happy birthday, Happy birthday to my man John Nick.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, buddy, Big forty one coming up, and obviously

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01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 6: a busy stretch for the UFC nine consecutive weekends with

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Speaker 6: a live event and that means we're with you every

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Speaker 6: step of the way here on the Anakinporing Podcast. Thank

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Speaker 6: you for listening, hopefully subscribing, and we will talk to

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