1
00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:20,920
Speaker 1: Li's up and away we ao No Breaks is Back.

2
00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Drake Kirby. I'm joined today by our

3
00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,280
Speaker 1: local F one expert and a man who is closely

4
00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:32,320
Speaker 1: tracking the dwindling buffalo herds of the nineteenth century, Graydon,

5
00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:33,440
Speaker 1: Gordy and Graydon. What's up there?

6
00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:34,880
Speaker 2: How's it going.

7
00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,559
Speaker 3: I'm so excited to be here in the Classic Factory.

8
00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,400
Speaker 3: From the outside, as you drive up, you'd never know

9
00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,720
Speaker 3: this is a factory for classics. But then you come inside,

10
00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,519
Speaker 3: you seal the machinery, you see everybody at work producing

11
00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:46,160
Speaker 3: the classics.

12
00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,560
Speaker 1: It's incredible classics just flying out the windows here. Of course,

13
00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,840
Speaker 1: we've got our team principal in the paddock, JD making

14
00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,880
Speaker 1: sure we're up the snuff on the latest rules and regulations.

15
00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:00,560
Speaker 1: Hello everybody. Great to see a car podcast in a garage. Perfect.

16
00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,120
Speaker 1: It was meant to be. It was meant to be.

17
00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,000
Speaker 1: Whether you're joining us live in the slipstream team here

18
00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,240
Speaker 1: on YouTube, listening to the podcast on Apple or Spotify

19
00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,640
Speaker 1: or through the Athletic app, thanks for joining us for

20
00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,160
Speaker 1: season two of No Breaks Thing. It's gonna be as

21
00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:13,960
Speaker 1: good as season one.

22
00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,600
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be even better, even better. I mean,

23
00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,399
Speaker 3: we're we're in every possible way, We're up in the ending.

24
00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,280
Speaker 2: We're going faster, using even less breaks than we did

25
00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,240
Speaker 2: last time. We had almost no breaks.

26
00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had almost no breaks last year, but we

27
00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,760
Speaker 1: took a couple of super dramatic season last year, weekly skirmishes,

28
00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,039
Speaker 1: lots of fun. We'll see how it stacks up, but

29
00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,160
Speaker 1: we'll be here every week after the races to breakdown

30
00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,560
Speaker 1: what happened on the track, what happened off the track.

31
00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,679
Speaker 1: So get your subscriptions right right now. We're in the

32
00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,520
Speaker 1: No Dunks feed. I think we're gonna launch another one

33
00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,840
Speaker 1: here and not too long. But before we get to

34
00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,520
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two season, we got to talk a

35
00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,080
Speaker 1: little bit about last year. Netflix just dropped season four

36
00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,920
Speaker 1: of Drive to Survive, recapping the twenty twenty one season.

37
00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,680
Speaker 3: You watch it yet, I am almost done with it.

38
00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,920
Speaker 3: Normally I watch almost in one sitting. But as these

39
00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,000
Speaker 3: guys know, like I have like two infanc at homes,

40
00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,960
Speaker 3: so my ability to just sit down and watch TV

41
00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,280
Speaker 3: for like eight hours in a row or something is

42
00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,120
Speaker 3: maybe not what it quite was. Maybe it's six seven

43
00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,440
Speaker 3: months ago, so you know I'm not but you know,

44
00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,120
Speaker 3: I'm really enjoying it so far.

45
00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,520
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, I'm only I think I've watched through episode six,

46
00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,440
Speaker 1: which is the Williams episode. I think, I mean some

47
00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,760
Speaker 1: spot actually, And honestly, I'm kind of dreading watching the

48
00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,160
Speaker 1: last two episodes because I know it's gonna get dramatic.

49
00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,320
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna get a little bit heated, my

50
00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:32,920
Speaker 1: blood pressure is going to be rising.

51
00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,839
Speaker 3: But uh, we already got the Has episode though, which

52
00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,519
Speaker 3: is always the best episode of Drive to Survive in

53
00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,960
Speaker 3: my opinion, like hilarious episode. Gudri Steiner is the star

54
00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,920
Speaker 3: of the show. I mean, I would do I would

55
00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,920
Speaker 3: watch a whole documentary just about him and his whole season.

56
00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,440
Speaker 1: I think he probably has my favorite line so far

57
00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,600
Speaker 1: from what I've seen, when they're talking about Nikita Mazapin's

58
00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,600
Speaker 1: dad who came in and saved hass and he's obviously

59
00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,160
Speaker 1: got ties as a Russian oligarch, but Steiner meantioned, he's like,

60
00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,800
Speaker 1: he's not an oligarch. He's not the fertilizer guy.

61
00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:10,360
Speaker 2: Fer He's a classic yard man guy. He's a Yeah.

62
00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,440
Speaker 1: One of the biggest stories last year was that Max

63
00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,560
Speaker 1: Verstappen wasn't going to be doing like the talking head

64
00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,440
Speaker 1: interviews for this which he's not in, uh in season four?

65
00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:18,920
Speaker 1: Do you miss him it?

66
00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,799
Speaker 3: Actually, I'm impressed how much it's not impacting the storyline.

67
00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,800
Speaker 3: First of all, it's his absence is made up for

68
00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,280
Speaker 3: by Christian Horner's constant presence and incredible willingness to talk

69
00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,800
Speaker 3: about anything all the time all you know, So that

70
00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,120
Speaker 3: that helps because he kind of is the stand in

71
00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,880
Speaker 3: for the Red Bull narrative and in a way that

72
00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,040
Speaker 3: I don't know that Christian Order is terribly likable in

73
00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,880
Speaker 3: the in this, but but he is probably a more

74
00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,920
Speaker 3: dynamic villain than Max would be. I think he's good

75
00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,520
Speaker 3: on camera, even if you come away from a lot

76
00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,160
Speaker 3: of these kind of maybe more annoyed with him than

77
00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,800
Speaker 3: you than many people even.

78
00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:58,360
Speaker 2: Were last year.

79
00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely, I think he's like, he's great to

80
00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,760
Speaker 1: have on the mic, and it's kind of like, you know,

81
00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,440
Speaker 1: there's no overstapp in there, so I'm gonna take two

82
00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,000
Speaker 1: times take my villainy to the next level two times.

83
00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,760
Speaker 1: It almost feels a little bit like this season is

84
00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,720
Speaker 1: Toto versus Christian Horner. To me, oh yeah, I mean

85
00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,400
Speaker 1: obviously with no over stopping around. So he's not gonna

86
00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,240
Speaker 1: be able to be speaking for himself. They still kind

87
00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,560
Speaker 1: of work him in there with you know, like radio

88
00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,640
Speaker 1: calls or like a post race interview that kind of thing.

89
00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,000
Speaker 1: But I don't know, like it's just very funny to

90
00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,920
Speaker 1: see the way these two guys go at each.

91
00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:35,360
Speaker 3: Other to look into their lives is incredible, Like Toto Wolf,

92
00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,360
Speaker 3: like ordering more and more elaborate breakfasts are like wearing

93
00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,640
Speaker 3: like the or like Christian Horner doing increasingly like Foppish

94
00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,800
Speaker 3: country gentrified things like ski shooting but having someone else

95
00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,800
Speaker 3: load his gun for him and things like that.

96
00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,360
Speaker 2: Right, it's all these things. They are just incredible little.

97
00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,839
Speaker 3: Like highly staged but very funny looks into their lives.

98
00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,680
Speaker 3: Because somebody had to say, you know, what do you

99
00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,680
Speaker 3: want to be thought of as? And he's like, well,

100
00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,120
Speaker 3: I'd like to be somebody who is portrayed ordering breakfast

101
00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:10,120
Speaker 3: multiple times in this It's for breakfast. Yeah, it's it's

102
00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,240
Speaker 3: it's very I think it's great, but I'm really like it.

103
00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,440
Speaker 3: I feel like this the show is kind of getting

104
00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,479
Speaker 3: some hate from like maybe diehard f one folks, like

105
00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,520
Speaker 3: old guard people who were into it before the show

106
00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,080
Speaker 3: came around, before all the new kids showed.

107
00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,200
Speaker 2: Up, But I honestly still think it's super fun.

108
00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:27,560
Speaker 1: Why is it getting hate?

109
00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,600
Speaker 3: I think because I think there's a little bit of

110
00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,960
Speaker 3: like they think it oversimplifies the sport. It doesn't really

111
00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,480
Speaker 3: cover any of the engineering or like the car dynamics,

112
00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,320
Speaker 3: Like you really don't get a good sense of like

113
00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:41,640
Speaker 3: why what.

114
00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,880
Speaker 2: Happens on track happens. It's very personality driven, right, and

115
00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:45,440
Speaker 2: I think.

116
00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,000
Speaker 3: People wish there was a little bit more of that,

117
00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,960
Speaker 3: And I think that's maybe a fair critique. They could

118
00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,760
Speaker 3: balance in maybe a little bit of education around strategy

119
00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,520
Speaker 3: and you know, the development of the cars and things

120
00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,560
Speaker 3: like that. And then there is also the criticism that

121
00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,279
Speaker 3: they miscaracter to rise people some But I I actually

122
00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:08,239
Speaker 3: am I don't really care or buy that, Like it's fine,

123
00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,919
Speaker 3: Like yeah, I mean, like it's they're made, they're making storylines.

124
00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,640
Speaker 3: It's interesting, it's it's compelling. I don't know, they're not

125
00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,599
Speaker 3: certainly like Horner is. Let's say they're making a villain

126
00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,760
Speaker 3: out of Horner. It's like he's playing into that.

127
00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's not like yeah, like he's not.

128
00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:28,479
Speaker 2: Like what you how could you portray me this? Ways?

129
00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,760
Speaker 1: So that's Yeah, he's almost It's almost like with Horner,

130
00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you all of the villainy stuff. You

131
00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,159
Speaker 1: choose what you want there. It doesn't feel like there's

132
00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,800
Speaker 1: much left on the cutting room floor for Christian Horner.

133
00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,560
Speaker 1: And also, I'll say I have never seen somebody so

134
00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:47,760
Speaker 1: dedicated to pumper nickel toast or pumper nickel at breakfast

135
00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:48,600
Speaker 1: every single time.

136
00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:49,360
Speaker 2: He loves it.

137
00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:50,880
Speaker 1: I pump it up.

138
00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,719
Speaker 3: I noted that, And I guess I guess I like

139
00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,200
Speaker 3: pumper nickel just fine, name but I but not nearly

140
00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,360
Speaker 3: at the frequency that he's enjoying it.

141
00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't remember the last time I order a

142
00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,480
Speaker 1: pumper nickel toast that uh at breakfast. But we got

143
00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,400
Speaker 1: together for the Monoco Ground pre last year. We gotta

144
00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,000
Speaker 1: have pumper nickel toasts.

145
00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:16,400
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, gotta be Monaco Ground pre brunch.

146
00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,800
Speaker 3: I will I will provide some pumper nickel. I will

147
00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,160
Speaker 3: do drive to Survive themed you know brunch items.

148
00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,640
Speaker 1: I love that. A lot of ginger for ginger spice perhaps,

149
00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,640
Speaker 1: you know. Walking through the beautiful fields with Christian.

150
00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,800
Speaker 2: Artists and calm casual they they just happened to stumble

151
00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,320
Speaker 2: upon this video crew as we were going about after

152
00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,040
Speaker 2: dude stroll in our English manner. Yeah, it's a hard life.

153
00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,040
Speaker 1: That's great. I can't wait to finish it. I can't

154
00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,400
Speaker 1: wait to get upset again going down to those last

155
00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,800
Speaker 1: couple of races. I mean, like they I was watching

156
00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,080
Speaker 1: the McLaren episode. I think it's the first time you

157
00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,880
Speaker 1: see the collision that sends for stopping going over Lewis Hamilton,

158
00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,720
Speaker 1: and it's weird where they're just kind of like, oh, yeah,

159
00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,640
Speaker 1: that happened, But you know it's gonna come mail Plater

160
00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,640
Speaker 1: as like a bigger storyline later in the season, But

161
00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,520
Speaker 1: when you're only talking about mclaar and you're like, oh,

162
00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,480
Speaker 1: just just a small, just a small little crash there. Anyways,

163
00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,840
Speaker 1: that's twenty twenty one. We're on to twenty twenty two.

164
00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,120
Speaker 1: Got a bunch of new driver lineups here, so we're

165
00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,280
Speaker 1: gonna run through all of the teams kind of starting

166
00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,600
Speaker 1: at the top. Mercedes did win the Constructors' Championship last year.

167
00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,760
Speaker 1: Did That's weird to me considering that Max Verstoppin won

168
00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,800
Speaker 1: the drivers Championship. But we're starting with Red Bull because

169
00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,280
Speaker 1: they do have the champ Is it more prestigious to

170
00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,760
Speaker 1: win the Driver's Championship, Like does a team like Red

171
00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,680
Speaker 1: Bull Are they upset that they didn't win the Constructors

172
00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,280
Speaker 1: Championship because they don't get like that huge payout for

173
00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,000
Speaker 1: being the number one team even though they're guy won,

174
00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,360
Speaker 1: which is more glory.

175
00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,240
Speaker 3: I think it kind of, So I think the payout

176
00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,240
Speaker 3: is the key here. I think if you're a lower team,

177
00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,480
Speaker 3: that's a little bit more financially insecure that those spots.

178
00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,679
Speaker 3: You know, you're not really competing for the top title,

179
00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,280
Speaker 3: but those spots are more meaningful than any given driver finishing.

180
00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,280
Speaker 3: But I actually think Red Bull, I mean, they clearly

181
00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:01,160
Speaker 3: optim at some point optimize their strategy for winning drivers Championship,

182
00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,479
Speaker 3: And I do think among fans it's what's most remembered,

183
00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:09,600
Speaker 3: Like we'll talk about Hamilton's championship, Schumacher's championships, et cetera,

184
00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,560
Speaker 3: Sena's championships way more than they talk about Ferrari or

185
00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,720
Speaker 3: Williams or McLaren or whatever. Of course, there's an incredible

186
00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,960
Speaker 3: prestige with the constructors Championships. I'm not saying there's not,

187
00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,000
Speaker 3: but I feel like the driver's titles are the things

188
00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:28,680
Speaker 3: that teams that are financially capable will optimize for Yeah,

189
00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,080
Speaker 3: if you're if the if the millions here or there

190
00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:33,439
Speaker 3: are on a make or break thing for.

191
00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,240
Speaker 1: You, Red Bull and Mercedes aren't going broke coming in second.

192
00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,600
Speaker 3: That's what you're saying with Ferrari, I think they don't care,

193
00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,400
Speaker 3: like that's not what they want to be. They want

194
00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:42,960
Speaker 3: their driver on the top step.

195
00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes sense to me anyways. So the drivers

196
00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,760
Speaker 1: for Red Bull, they got the same old crew, Max

197
00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,599
Speaker 1: for stopping Sergio Perez. You think they're gonna be the

198
00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:51,360
Speaker 1: favorites coming in.

199
00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,880
Speaker 2: I think they're probably the favorites.

200
00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Max probably has to be the favorite

201
00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,680
Speaker 3: to win again, especially after how things looked in practice,

202
00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,040
Speaker 3: you know, in the in these uh you know sessions

203
00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,520
Speaker 3: in Bahrain and back in Barcelona. The car looks good,

204
00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,080
Speaker 3: it looks fast, it looks like they've done a reasonably

205
00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,240
Speaker 3: good job with the regular new regulations, and you probably

206
00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:17,320
Speaker 3: got to think that Perez takes another leap. Everybody, you know,

207
00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,120
Speaker 3: you know, you think they take a leap. But the

208
00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,840
Speaker 3: com everybody's comfort with the car is going to be

209
00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,200
Speaker 3: a little off because it's such a dramatic change. But

210
00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,760
Speaker 3: another year more ingrained in the culture, you know, better

211
00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,040
Speaker 3: working relationship with his engineers and everybody in the team.

212
00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,679
Speaker 3: I think that you you got to expect that they'll

213
00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:34,720
Speaker 3: they'll be the favorite.

214
00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would imagine so, especially like you just saw

215
00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,760
Speaker 1: how it kind of clicked into focus as a team,

216
00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,960
Speaker 1: especially like in the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, like first

217
00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,439
Speaker 1: up and being able to make his comeback and win

218
00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,320
Speaker 1: was in doing large part to Perez holding off Hamilton

219
00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,240
Speaker 1: for that little bit of time there given Max a

220
00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,480
Speaker 1: chance to catch up. That was a great stub. Absolutely, yeah,

221
00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,280
Speaker 1: but I would uh, one other question I have about

222
00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,240
Speaker 1: Red Bull for you. They're making their own engine this year, right, Yeah, they.

223
00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,240
Speaker 3: Are, although it's it's not in name only, but you know,

224
00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,440
Speaker 3: they've transitioned the Honda. Honda is exiting the sport, but

225
00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,079
Speaker 3: basically the Honda F one team in fact that they

226
00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,120
Speaker 3: are transitioning over to Red Bull and even some of

227
00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,000
Speaker 3: the personnel are staying. So there is and there's a

228
00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,400
Speaker 3: lot of cooperation there. So I so it's it's that

229
00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,840
Speaker 3: is true, but it's not as if it's like, Okay,

230
00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,000
Speaker 3: they started from scratch, sure, and they don't have you know,

231
00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,640
Speaker 3: and now they've had to just cook up an edge

232
00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,920
Speaker 3: of a nower. It's basically the Honda engine that they

233
00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,240
Speaker 3: were running last year with with the sort of gains

234
00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:34,840
Speaker 3: that you would make in the off season.

235
00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:36,520
Speaker 1: Throw an RB on there and it's all good.

236
00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,200
Speaker 2: As what you're telling me, That's basically what I'm saying.

237
00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,559
Speaker 1: All right, And our second team, Mercedes, they got Lewis Hamilton,

238
00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,360
Speaker 1: did you ever heard of them? Pretty good and joining

239
00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,839
Speaker 1: Lewis Hamilton this year in Hamilton's quest Verus eighth Drivers Championship,

240
00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:54,640
Speaker 1: George Russell moving from Williams Sat taking the number two

241
00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,600
Speaker 1: spot from Valcherie Batas. What are your expectations for George

242
00:11:58,640 --> 00:11:59,360
Speaker 1: Russell this year?

243
00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,920
Speaker 3: You know, you definitely gotta I definitely think he's gonna

244
00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,920
Speaker 3: win a race. I definitely think he's gonna win race.

245
00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,360
Speaker 3: I've got I think he's got the pure pace and

246
00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,400
Speaker 3: he puts it together enough on a weekend to win

247
00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,200
Speaker 3: a race. I think he'll be on some podiums. A

248
00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,440
Speaker 3: lot of this is gonna be impacted by the car itself.

249
00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,240
Speaker 3: You know, everybody's Mercedes doesn't sound very confident about their

250
00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,120
Speaker 3: car right now. Lewis Hamilton is claiming they're not going

251
00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:23,520
Speaker 3: to compete to win races.

252
00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,959
Speaker 2: They've said that every year, year, two year.

253
00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,000
Speaker 3: I saw some some tweet the other day was just

254
00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,199
Speaker 3: screenshots of Lewis Hamilton saying in twenty sixteen, twenty seventy,

255
00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,960
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, every year like, oh, the car's not ready,

256
00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,360
Speaker 3: We've got tons of problems to figure out.

257
00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,040
Speaker 2: Then the first race comes around and they just.

258
00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,600
Speaker 1: Like crush, Oh I figured it out.

259
00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, whoops, we figured out in the last week,

260
00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,720
Speaker 3: I guess. And now so it's uncertain whether they're sandbagging

261
00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,719
Speaker 3: or not. At the same time, they took such a

262
00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,680
Speaker 3: dramatically different design approach to some of the other teams

263
00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,640
Speaker 3: that I think that it's possible that they made a mistake.

264
00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,680
Speaker 3: I mean, it is possible they made a mistake. So

265
00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,480
Speaker 3: I think that we'll see. And that being said, I'd

266
00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:02,959
Speaker 3: expect them to be very competitive.

267
00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,240
Speaker 2: I expect George to do well.

268
00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,000
Speaker 3: You know, I think it makes their life easy because

269
00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,680
Speaker 3: George one day is gonna want to compete for the

270
00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:12,559
Speaker 3: for titles.

271
00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,760
Speaker 2: But this year it's pretty easy to say, listen.

272
00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,840
Speaker 3: You're the number two, you know, and you've got to

273
00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,520
Speaker 3: support Lewis while we while you kind of get your

274
00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,160
Speaker 3: sea legs under you to compete at the very top

275
00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:24,640
Speaker 3: of the grid.

276
00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,560
Speaker 1: Do you think he'll end up being better number two

277
00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,320
Speaker 1: for Hamilton than Valtrie was. I mean they had a

278
00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,199
Speaker 1: ton of success, obviously Mercedes did. It was just the

279
00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,280
Speaker 1: criticisms of Botas were always that he's finishing second guaranteed,

280
00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,520
Speaker 1: you know, he's not gonna beat Hamilton, even those couple

281
00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,360
Speaker 1: of seasons where we're coming like, is this the year

282
00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:42,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't.

283
00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,320
Speaker 3: To be honest, I think he won't be a better

284
00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,679
Speaker 3: number two in the sense that he's better than Botas

285
00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,800
Speaker 3: in my opinion, and at times will be less willing

286
00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,840
Speaker 3: to sacrifice, less willing to not be competitive with his teammate.

287
00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,160
Speaker 3: He's going to want to win title titles and Botos

288
00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,920
Speaker 3: wanted to as well. But at the end of the day,

289
00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,679
Speaker 3: I think by the middle of every season, Valtriie acknowledged

290
00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,880
Speaker 3: the reality of what was going on and was willing

291
00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,160
Speaker 3: to play ball. You know, multiple times acquiesce to team orders.

292
00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,360
Speaker 3: You know, in general, played a supporting role and did

293
00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,080
Speaker 3: so well and with that they they won, you know,

294
00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,360
Speaker 3: the driver in Constructors titles several times in a row

295
00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,200
Speaker 3: as a pair, So in some sense you couldn't have

296
00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,000
Speaker 3: asked for a better number too, so in that Russell

297
00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:26,400
Speaker 3: will be better in the sense that I think it

298
00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,920
Speaker 3: gives them a better shot at assured at securing the

299
00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,720
Speaker 3: constructor's title, as I think Russell will generally perform better

300
00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,080
Speaker 3: than Botos will, but at times it will get complicated

301
00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,720
Speaker 3: and messy if they end up you know, if Russell

302
00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,240
Speaker 3: doesn't feel like playing ball.

303
00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,560
Speaker 1: There sure, which he may not well. And I think Mercedes,

304
00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,000
Speaker 1: if you if you're in their shoes, you have to

305
00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,080
Speaker 1: be hoping that they have like a like a Spurs

306
00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,040
Speaker 1: like sort of thing here right where like Tim Duncan

307
00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,520
Speaker 1: passing the secrets down to Kwi Leonard. Obviously that didn't

308
00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:55,600
Speaker 1: end well. Sorry buddy.

309
00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:00,000
Speaker 3: Let's hope that sorry buddy get the light time.

310
00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,840
Speaker 1: Also, you know, there are worse people I'll learn under.

311
00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,800
Speaker 3: Than Lewis Hamilton one hundred percent, and I think that.

312
00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:12,400
Speaker 3: But Lewis is famous for, I think, having tense relationships

313
00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,040
Speaker 3: with teammates when they do really start to challenge him.

314
00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,800
Speaker 3: I mean his relationship with Nico Rosberg, you know in

315
00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:22,600
Speaker 3: the you know, early mid teens, was was as toxic

316
00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,520
Speaker 3: as any relationship on the grid because Rosberg was pushing

317
00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,200
Speaker 3: him and actually did take away a title from him

318
00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,560
Speaker 3: one one year, right, So I think that so if

319
00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,760
Speaker 3: you see Russell overperform, I could see something a bit

320
00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:40,760
Speaker 3: like what happened with Vedelin, Leclair and Ferrari, where things

321
00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,840
Speaker 3: are maybe quietly a little bit more tense than anybody

322
00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,520
Speaker 3: wants to let on. I don't know, but that's all speculative.

323
00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,600
Speaker 3: I think in actuality you won't see that coming to

324
00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,960
Speaker 3: past because Lewis will be clearly and confidently ahead of

325
00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,120
Speaker 3: him and it won't be a debate other than some

326
00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,320
Speaker 3: maybe one or two on track incidents where there's some

327
00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,840
Speaker 3: individual moment where maybe they asked Russell to do something

328
00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,840
Speaker 3: he doesn't want to do or something like that.

329
00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,200
Speaker 1: There's some good teammate moments for Russell and Drive to

330
00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,920
Speaker 1: survive season four, helping out Latifi to get his points

331
00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,160
Speaker 1: during the season. I hope the same thing doesn't happen

332
00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,960
Speaker 1: to us though, Like if I start making really great

333
00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,600
Speaker 1: uh Formula one, I.

334
00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,800
Speaker 3: Started undermining very jealous, yeah, and I start like talking

335
00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:25,240
Speaker 3: about instead, Oh my god, I gotta go, and then

336
00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:26,840
Speaker 3: just put out to past year that I'm just like

337
00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,400
Speaker 3: some no, okay, in your defense, right, Russell does some

338
00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,440
Speaker 3: they do talk about that instance where he basically is

339
00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,720
Speaker 3: defending on behalf of Latifi and like is totally focused

340
00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:37,920
Speaker 3: on Latifi getting points.

341
00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,040
Speaker 2: Team can get points.

342
00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,400
Speaker 3: I think that's was an awesome moment from him, and

343
00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,760
Speaker 3: I assure you there will be those moments in the

344
00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,960
Speaker 3: murk too. I just think there will also be moments

345
00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:52,800
Speaker 3: where he's very competitive against Lewis and that will feel complicated.

346
00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,320
Speaker 3: You know, it's not that he's not a team player,

347
00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,040
Speaker 3: and he loves Toto and Toto loves him, and you.

348
00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,880
Speaker 1: Know, so all right, our next team on list your

349
00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,360
Speaker 1: team kind of Ferrari. I don't want to put words

350
00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,959
Speaker 1: in your mouth, but you're a Ferrari fan. Here they

351
00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,880
Speaker 1: got their same drivers back as well, charl Leclair, Carlos

352
00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,639
Speaker 1: signs Uh. They mentioned a lot and drive to survive

353
00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,240
Speaker 1: season for Ferrari is not here to come in third place?

354
00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,000
Speaker 1: They did last year. It was a great season. What's

355
00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,359
Speaker 1: a great season for Ferrari this year? The title?

356
00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:21,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it right now.

357
00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,840
Speaker 3: This is a place where if you're a team in red,

358
00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,480
Speaker 3: you know, we like to say that you're back. And

359
00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,720
Speaker 3: for me, I think that Ferrari is back.

360
00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,160
Speaker 2: All I have is I'm back and I wear red

361
00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,560
Speaker 2: and I'm all out of Red clar I'm back. They're back.

362
00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,960
Speaker 3: I think it's they're gonna be right at the top.

363
00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:41,760
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be competing for wins, that they're

364
00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,720
Speaker 3: gonna be back on the top step. I think it's

365
00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,040
Speaker 3: Ferrari can consider it a good season if they are

366
00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,720
Speaker 3: back in second place or they win Grand Prixs, which

367
00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,520
Speaker 3: it's been you know, a minute twenty nineteen.

368
00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,320
Speaker 1: I think with the last yeah, they win for Ferrari.

369
00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,679
Speaker 2: So if they're winning Grand Prix, I think you you

370
00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:57,639
Speaker 2: feel great about that.

371
00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,480
Speaker 3: If they're second in the championship, I think you feel good. However,

372
00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,119
Speaker 3: they right now look like the team that is best

373
00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,920
Speaker 3: positioned to challenge Red Bull for the title. I think

374
00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:14,680
Speaker 3: coming out of preseason testing they looked better than Mercedes.

375
00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,080
Speaker 3: They were very quick, they were very reliable, they were

376
00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,159
Speaker 3: getting a lot of laps in. I think both charl

377
00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,760
Speaker 3: and Carlos looked fast and looked comfortable in the car.

378
00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,560
Speaker 3: So they're you know, and they had said that they

379
00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,879
Speaker 3: had thrown a ton of energy last year into the

380
00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,919
Speaker 3: development of this car. They had very eyes on the

381
00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,520
Speaker 3: prize about it. They knew they weren't they were only

382
00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,080
Speaker 3: going to compete for so much last year and they

383
00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,399
Speaker 3: wanted to get back to really competing for titles. So

384
00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,919
Speaker 3: I think they have a shot. I'll say this, I

385
00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,600
Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if either of their drivers or they

386
00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,480
Speaker 3: as a team are actually the champion at the end

387
00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:50,920
Speaker 3: of the season.

388
00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,080
Speaker 2: That wouldn't shock me.

389
00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,800
Speaker 3: I think it's not likely, but I'm I'm I wouldn't

390
00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,359
Speaker 3: be like, oh my god, where did that come from?

391
00:18:58,440 --> 00:18:59,880
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, Yeah, they've got such

392
00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:02,600
Speaker 1: a nice mix, Like Leclaire seems to me to be

393
00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,760
Speaker 1: like a championship quality winning driver and signs at the

394
00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,960
Speaker 1: very release I think. I think he's a good driver

395
00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,119
Speaker 1: and super reliable, like that guy always finishes. He's not

396
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,800
Speaker 1: getting in scraps with anybody really, and he's gonna generally

397
00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,520
Speaker 1: perform pretty well, like he was ahead of Leclaire going

398
00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,440
Speaker 1: into the summer break last year. Leclaiir turned it on

399
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,080
Speaker 1: after he had some DNFs in the first half of

400
00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,280
Speaker 1: the season, but once he started bringing the car home

401
00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,480
Speaker 1: that's when Ferrari really took off. So I think they've

402
00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,400
Speaker 1: just got two really good drivers, and like you're saying,

403
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,440
Speaker 1: the cars looked all right so far.

404
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,200
Speaker 3: I think I do think Leclair is probably the more

405
00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,280
Speaker 3: likely to win the title in the sense that I

406
00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,760
Speaker 3: do think he's the superior driver. I think he can

407
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,920
Speaker 3: hook it up in more parts, you know, superior racecraft,

408
00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,919
Speaker 3: superior on Saturday. It's his risk tolerance, or it's the DNFs,

409
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,000
Speaker 3: it's the fact that he's willing to go for gaps

410
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,919
Speaker 3: or push the envelope. If he can just kind of

411
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,879
Speaker 3: fine tune that risk tolerance and get a little bit

412
00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,199
Speaker 3: more lucky just a couple of times and finish a

413
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 3: few races where his appetite to push the envelope panned

414
00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,600
Speaker 3: out rather than backfire, he has a great chance at

415
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,879
Speaker 3: finishing right towards the top of the standings. Carlos, you

416
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 3: have to He finished fifth in the driver standings last year,

417
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 3: so you can't. If the car is meaningfully better, you

418
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 3: can't write him off as a title contender. You know,

419
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 3: I just have yet to you know, to me, I

420
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 3: feel like he's he's just slightly behind the verstap in

421
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 3: Leclair quality of driver.

422
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:27,600
Speaker 2: So we'll see. Though.

423
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 3: At the same time, you know, maybe Carlos was ready

424
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 3: to take the leap. He did all of that in

425
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 3: his first season in a Ferrari, which a lot of guys,

426
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 3: as we saw Ricardo Perez, they really struggled in their

427
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 3: first year. So maybe he's gonna take an even bigger leap.

428
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe he's uh in NBA parlance, maybe he's like

429
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 1: a floor raiser, like he's always gonna be good, so's

430
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 1: gonna be good out there. And I would say Ferrari

431
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 1: the most handsome f one.

432
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 2: I think that. I think that's right, personal preference, right.

433
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 2: My wife is thrilled to survive. Episode comes around.

434
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 1: Next on the list McLaren the Papaya guys, Orlando Norris

435
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 1: and Danny Rick coming back. They were third and twenty

436
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,119
Speaker 1: twenty dropped a fourth last year. The biggest question I

437
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: have with this team is always who's the number one?

438
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,399
Speaker 1: Because to me, it should be Norris. He's been there longer.

439
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: To me, he's better than Ricardo is. But Riccardo has

440
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a rep and he's got

441
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: some race wins in his pocket, which Norris does not.

442
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,199
Speaker 3: Have, including one last year, which has got to be

443
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 3: one of the more surprising outcomes of the season that

444
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 3: if anybody of that duo won a race.

445
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 2: It was it was Danny.

446
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 3: I think that I think that they go in with

447
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,439
Speaker 3: a true co driver attitude. I think they're very team oriented.

448
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 3: I think that's a team that does pride itself on

449
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 3: where it finishes in the drivers standings. I feel like

450
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 3: you see that both in Drive to Survive, but you

451
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 3: actually see it throughout the season. With Zach Brown's commentary,

452
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 3: they probably talk more about their position in the driver's

453
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 3: standings than almost any other CEO or team principal.

454
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 2: He brings it up a lot.

455
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 3: So I feel like they have a very team oriented attitude.

456
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 3: It's so it'll if one of them excels and you

457
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 3: find it where one of them is actually vying for

458
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 3: the title, you know, that could change that attitude over

459
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 3: the course of the season. But in the beginning, I

460
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 3: think they'll probably treat them equally and take it race

461
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 3: by race in terms of you know, who's being favored strategically.

462
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 1: Is that the top four? You think this year red Ball, Mercedes, Ferrari,

463
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 1: McLaren in some sort of order.

464
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 3: It's that is the most likely outcome. I mean, I

465
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 3: think the the one thing I'll say is is that

466
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 3: And I don't think anything in testing necessarily makes me

467
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 3: doubt that, you know, I think Alpha Tawi, I think

468
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 3: Aston Martin, I think as some of as other teams.

469
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 3: Alpine for sure could jump up, and Nick maybe McLaren.

470
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 3: McLaren seems the most vulnerable to me there. I don't

471
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 3: know that they've nailed it quite to the degree that

472
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 3: or they made the leap that they had hoped to

473
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 3: make where they thought, okay, new REGs, new chance, you know,

474
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 3: you know, to get back to the very top. I

475
00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 3: don't know if they pulled it off in the off

476
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 3: seat in the development over the last year. So it

477
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 3: makes them a little bit vulnerable. But that's the you know,

478
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 3: the the smart bet is that's the top.

479
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 1: Four, all right, our next three. I'm putting all of

480
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: these together, Graydon, because these all seem like the same

481
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: team to me. They all start with a they've all

482
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 1: got the same lineups as last season, and it feels

483
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: like they're always battling for like the last few points

484
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: that are on the grid. We've got Alpine who are

485
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: bringing back Fernando Alonso and Esteban Okhon. We've got Alpha

486
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: Tawi who have Pierre Ghastly and Yuki Sonoda, and we've

487
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 1: got Aston Martin racing with Sebastian Bettle and Lance Stroll.

488
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: How are you ranking those teams right there? I mean

489
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: the Triple A's if you will, Alpin, Alpha Tawi and

490
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: Aston Martin.

491
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 3: Maybe in the order you just named them, maybe in

492
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 3: the order you seen them. I am very bullish on

493
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 3: what Alonzo can do this year. He seemed to improve

494
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 3: a lot over the course of last season as he

495
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 3: figured out the car, and I think he did show

496
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 3: that he's still got it. That being said, my favorite

497
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 3: lineup out there is Alpha Tawi. I think Pierre Gasley

498
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 3: is a supreme talent in a better car, could probably

499
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 3: vie for a title. I think he is that good

500
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 3: and I think he could make a leap this year.

501
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 3: He was having a good season. He had a very

502
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 3: up and down season where I feel like he did

503
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 3: very well or like the car never managed toss the

504
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 3: finish line. Yeah, so as long as he can kind

505
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 3: of smooth that out, they could be very competitive and

506
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,479
Speaker 3: that could easily be the team that ends up in fourth,

507
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 3: ahead of McLaren, ahead of Alpine. But that's the one

508
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 3: I'm most excited to watch. I think they're there for me.

509
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 2: I don't know that.

510
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 3: I think Vettel is declining, and I think Stroll has

511
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 3: a ceiling as a driver. I'm probably least bullish on

512
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 3: Aston Mark.

513
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a disappointing season for Aston Martin last year.

514
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: You know they had their pink Mercedes during the twenty

515
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: twenty season it looked great. The rake regulations changed and

516
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: affected Mercedes and Aston Martin the most for sure, but

517
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: Mercedes was able to figure it out, whereas Aston Martin

518
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 1: was not. Yeah, I'm excited for Alphatari as well. I

519
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: like Ghastly and I also saw that Yuki Sonoda has

520
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: big change for this season. He's not ordering Uber eats anymore.

521
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: He said he was ordering Uber Eats for breakfast, lunch

522
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: and dinner.

523
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 2: Wow, that's too much Uber Eat.

524
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: That's too much Uber Eats, he says, too much. He's

525
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: like franziost I think is their team principal. Yeah right,

526
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: and he's like, well, I saw that guy. He's sixty

527
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: years old and he doesn't order Uber Eats. He's got

528
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: a ton of energy, so I'm gonna stop ordering Uber Eats,

529
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: which I think was a hilarious I.

530
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: Know he loves me.

531
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 3: He does talk about like when he moved to Italy

532
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 3: to like try to focus on the team more.

533
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 2: They were like, what's the best part about it? He's like, Oh,

534
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 2: it's the food.

535
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 3: I'm eating food, like he talks about he's he's definitely

536
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 3: my hungry boy. So it's like I I yeah, but

537
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 3: that's too much Uber eats, man. Even if you're like

538
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 3: a F one driver, you're well compensated. You can't afford to.

539
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 2: Order that much Uber Eats.

540
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 1: But you also gotta be I imagine if you're an

541
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: Apple one driver and you order and like you just

542
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: see them with your order in the car and you're like,

543
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 1: how is this taking so long?

544
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, hurry up, wait, But you're supposed to be eating.

545
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 2: You're supposed to, Like trip there's like so much so

546
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 2: do you like you're supposed to.

547
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 3: You see other guys like like Carlos Signs is like

548
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 3: posting pictures of his food and he's like, it's like

549
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 3: chicken in broccoli. It's the most boring meals of all

550
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 3: time I've ever seen. That's you shouldn't be eating that

551
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,479
Speaker 3: much takeout period.

552
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: No, that's I mean it's like like Derek Rose I

553
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: remember was like he had like a Skittles machine in

554
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: his house and like just he's like, oh, yeah. No,

555
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: Now that I'm not twenty five anymore, I have to

556
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: start eating decent food. So I guess that proves that

557
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: these guys are super athletes as well.

558
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 2: I guess you gotta watch.

559
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 3: And that's what Gus ordering oatively proves that Ewlood drivers

560
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 3: are super.

561
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: D Yeah, we shall see what they do. Alp and

562
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: AlphaTauri Aston Martin in some sort of order there. Alpine

563
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,959
Speaker 1: had a cool season last year. Alonso was a surprising

564
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: yeah veteran, and Okan got that race one pretty cool.

565
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: Stuff was exciting.

566
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: Yep. Down the back markers. We're talking about Williams. They

567
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: finished eighth in the Constructors' Championship last year. George Russell

568
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: obviously went to Mercedes, so they're ever line up this year.

569
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: Nicholas Latifi is back and Alexander Albon he's back, baby,

570
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: give him a red shirt because he's back. Is Williams

571
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: heading the right way? George Russell was saying a lot

572
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: of that. I wish this was my first season at Williams.

573
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: You know, they they scored more points last season, you know,

574
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty and twenty one combined. But it hasn't looked

575
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: good early.

576
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 3: It hasn't looked good. Early testing didn't look good. I

577
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 3: think there was a lot of enthusiasm coming out of

578
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 3: last season. I think people felt decent about the driver lineup.

579
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: I know that Albon's probably not a top tier guy,

580
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: but bringing in a guy who has actual F one

581
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 3: experience as opposed to a true rookie felt like maybe

582
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 3: they could put it together.

583
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

584
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 3: I didn't feel good after seeing them and testing. It

585
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 3: doesn't feel like they're making the leap back up into

586
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 3: the midfield. It certainly doesn't feel like they'll be out

587
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 3: there competing with the Alpha Tawries and the Alpines, which

588
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 3: should have probably.

589
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 2: Been the goal.

590
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 3: You know that, you know, and I just don't see that.

591
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: Of course, I will say it's not the gap it

592
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 3: used to be. It's not like, Okay, preseason testing there

593
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 3: was a second a second and a half behind the

594
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 3: ninth team. They're close, they will be in the point.

595
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 3: Some races will swing their way, I think. But I

596
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: I think there is a world where they are like

597
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: back at the very bottom, like nine to ten again,

598
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 3: which is a shame because I did want to see

599
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: them improve, you know, But yeah, somebody's gonna be better.

600
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: Last year and obviously they had a change in leadership. Yeah, yeah, Yoeskupedo.

601
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: That guy's us a character. Yeah, he was awesome.

602
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: I like him a lot. Actually, I think he's cool.

603
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: And his episode of Beyond the Grid, like the long

604
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: form interview with him F One's podcast, is great, super interesting.

605
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 3: Hearing him talk about his experience in rally is super interesting.

606
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 3: But I don't know, it just doesn't It's it's this

607
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 3: is just very competitive. You can even do a great

608
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 3: job as a team principal, a great job with the car,

609
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 3: and it's it's just not enough.

610
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: So what's the scouting report on Alban Because last we

611
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: saw him, you know, he was with Red Bull, had

612
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: some skirmishes with Lewis Hamilton, if I'm not mistaken, and

613
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: then eventually got sent down to the lower team.

614
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, this has gotta be something where I think the

615
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: thing that I'm really looking for from Albon is not

616
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: It is not the driving ability, it's the yips, it's

617
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 3: the psychological stuff. He seemed to get really shook. He

618
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: had a few races where he was right there in it,

619
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 3: fighting for a podium, fighting for a win.

620
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: Things went awry and.

621
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 3: Those having the rug pulled out from under him seemed

622
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 3: to really shake his confidence at times. He made comment

623
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: a very you know, infamous comment about how hard.

624
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: The other guys race him.

625
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 3: He seemed kind of shook because people were doing really

626
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,479
Speaker 3: aggressive overtakes and that's not the kind of attitude that

627
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 3: you want a driver to have.

628
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: All these guys pass.

629
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: Like to be a little bit taken aback, like how

630
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 3: competitive the other guys are.

631
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally like that. That. That definitely didn't look good.

632
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: I think that is so that.

633
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: I think the I think you want to so I

634
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: think that's what you're before is just like maybe a

635
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 3: little bit older, a little bit more confident and hopefully

636
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 3: in a situation where there's a little bit less pressure

637
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: and therefore beating, you know, beating his teammate on Saturday,

638
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 3: getting into points.

639
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: These are all wins.

640
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: Those are things you can be proud of and kind

641
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 3: of just building back into the sport a.

642
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 2: Little bit, all right.

643
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: A couple more teams. Our only all new team is

644
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: Alfa Romeo, finished ninth in the constructors last year. They've

645
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: got valtri Botas as their number one driver and Guan

646
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: yu Jou, the first Chinese driver at the Formula One level.

647
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: Any idea what to expect from this team.

648
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 3: This has got to be one of the bigger wild

649
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 3: cards out there. I don't think they're going to excel,

650
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 3: but it's definitely a weird lineup, especially for a team

651
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 3: that for quite a long time was perceived as just

652
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 3: a feeder team for the Ferrari program. You know, they

653
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 3: were the relationship isn't as type, but they were basically

654
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: the Alpha Tawi you know to Ferrari's you know, red Bull,

655
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 3: and they were. But neither of these guys of Ferrari,

656
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 3: guys Botas and Guan you aren't right. So it's kind

657
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: of like, what's this lineup? Where is it coming from?

658
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: Why was this?

659
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 3: The strategic decision at the top is a little bit

660
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 3: unclear to me, and certainly you know, I will say

661
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: that Botos got a pretty detailed look at what both

662
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 3: Williams and Alpha were planning when they were recording him,

663
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 3: and he went with Alpha.

664
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: He said, I think these guys are the more promising team.

665
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 3: My understanding is he basically had his choice between the

666
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: two and he was like, I'm going to Alpha. Part

667
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: of that was also about guaranteed money, I think, which

668
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 3: was always a sore spot for him with Mercedes, so

669
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 3: and Alpha was willing to commit, but I don't know, you.

670
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: Know, seems significant to me considering he has previous history

671
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: with Williams. And I mean, honestly, even if it comes

672
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: down to money, you would rather be with the team

673
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: that's spending more money in a sport that's driven by money.

674
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: Totally, totally.

675
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 3: Last year, I was shocked to see him make this decision.

676
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: I would have been a ton of money that he

677
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 3: would end up back at Williams. So this definitely was

678
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: a surprise lineup across the board, especially because also there's

679
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: very talented Ferrari Academy driver guys sitting without a seat

680
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: right now who you thought might have goan U Show's seat.

681
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 3: So I think there is This is a peculiar group.

682
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 3: It's really tough to tell how these guys, but I

683
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 3: think they're in this. We've got them in the right spot,

684
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: which is somewhere in this bottom three.

685
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

686
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: Our final back marker, the Haas Racing team. They've got

687
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: Mick Schumacher back and they just replaced Nikita Mazapin with

688
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: Kevin Magnuson up grade, an upgrade, major upgrade. So the

689
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: question for hass is. Are they going to at least

690
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: compete for ninth place this year? They were It was

691
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: like a blowout last year. They weren't even close hot take.

692
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 3: I think they could compete for sixth place. I mean,

693
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: I think they could be back in the midfield. I

694
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 3: think the car looks good. I'll tell you right now.

695
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 3: Of these back markers, the Haas car looked the best

696
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 3: of any of the back marker cars for sure.

697
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 4: You know.

698
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 3: I think that final day of testing in Bahrain, I

699
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: think Mick Schumacher was the second fastest on track, behind

700
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 3: only Max Verstappen.

701
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: So the car looks good.

702
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 3: Is it a world beater or are they gonna be

703
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: the very top of the standings though, of course not.

704
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 3: But I think they could be back in the points,

705
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 3: be competitive. I don't think it's going to be a

706
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 3: joke like last year, where it's about which of them

707
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: is getting nineteenth and which of them is getting twenty?

708
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: Is the question?

709
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 4: You know?

710
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: Which?

711
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: Really it was like I I mean, they really were

712
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 3: only not getting that if something went wrong for somebody else.

713
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: So it's that won't be the case this year.

714
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 3: It will be interesting to see how Mick performs if

715
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: the car is better. Can he really you know, scrap

716
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: in the midfield? So hard to assess his talent in

717
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 3: such a poor car.

718
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: People think he's a good driver though, right, people do.

719
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 3: He won the F two championship. It's not just a name, right,

720
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 3: I mean, he won the F two championship. He had

721
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 3: moments last year where it was great, He looked great

722
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: on track. Yep, he was easily outperforming mazapin. Although I

723
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 3: don't know that that's something different cars, you know, the

724
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 3: different car. Yeah, the bad car. I know they had

725
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 3: a bad car and they were like, yeah, you get

726
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 3: the one.

727
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 2: That that spins.

728
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's yeah, And that's so that's hard to

729
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 3: overcome having the bad car of the two. But I

730
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 3: do think that, Yeah, but I do think that hopefully

731
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 3: he does well and then mag is it is you know,

732
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: is awesome, really competitive, really aggressive driver. You know, uh

733
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 3: has spent a bunch of had been in been an

734
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 3: F one for a bunch of seasons, So I think

735
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 3: he brings a lot of stability and knowledge and kind

736
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: of mid season developmental knowledge back to the team.

737
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 2: That's a That's a tough.

738
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 3: Thing about having a two rookie lineup, is that there

739
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 3: is a really powerful feedback loop with the driver and

740
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 3: their ability to articulate what's going on, what they need change,

741
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 3: how to evolve the car, you know, with you know

742
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 3: what they're experiencing on track is something that rookies have

743
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 3: a really hard time artickey. They just don't always know

744
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: what they're experiencing. Mag will be able to do that.

745
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 3: You need to improve this, You need.

746
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: To improve that.

747
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 3: That'll make us faster in slow corners, fast warms, whatever,

748
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 3: and that will help them a lot over the course

749
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 3: of the season as well.

750
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: All right, there's your twenty drivers heading into the twenty

751
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: twenty two season. Just gotta throw this one at your

752
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: graydon feel free to just just.

753
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: Rattle is off.

754
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: Who do you think are the top five drivers in

755
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: Formula one right now? Like you know, if it were

756
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: like Formula two, we've all got the same car. Who

757
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: are the top five that you know got the.

758
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 5: Skills the skills to Okay, I'm gonna this isn't a

759
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 5: hot take, but I bet you no one's expecting me

760
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 5: to say this, But number one, I am gonna say

761
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 5: Lewis Hamilton.

762
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 3: Still I think Lewis Hamilton is a god. Basically, I

763
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 3: mean he is out of control.

764
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 2: What he can do.

765
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 3: It's Max Verstappens, my number two and I get on

766
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 3: pure pace one lap to hook it up. Maybe the

767
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 3: answer is Max. But if you talk about over the

768
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: course of a race, the defending, the overtaking, the tire management,

769
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 3: I think, you know, Lewis puts it together in a

770
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 3: way that almost nobody else does. And that's not even

771
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 3: that hot of a take. If Latifi doesn't spin into

772
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: a wall with you know, six seven laps left last year,

773
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 3: he wins the title again, and I think countless people

774
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 3: are saying what I just said, Sure you know so.

775
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: So oh yeah. I mean if Hamilton wins that's championship

776
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: last year, people are maybe talking about that as his

777
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: best championship ever, considering the comeback over the course of

778
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: the second half of the season. I mean those are

779
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: an easy one too for stopping in Hamilton.

780
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: So either way, I do think, you know, for me,

781
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 3: I I'm tempted to say Leclaire at three, I think

782
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 3: Leclair is a really exceptional talent. I think what you

783
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 3: see what he does on Saturdays, you know, putting, putting

784
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 3: it on pole multiple times in that Ferrari That is

785
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 3: real pace. Man, that car was not as fast as

786
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 3: some of the other cars on track. It probably was

787
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: the fourth fastest car you know, last year on pure

788
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 3: pace and he was still, you know, putting it on pole.

789
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 3: You know, you could have won Monico and almost won

790
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 3: the British Grand Prix. A lot happened to almost enable that.

791
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 3: But I think that, you know, so, I think that's

792
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 3: that's really impressive. Norris is is an elite talent, truly

793
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: elite talent. I think a guy who absolutely can compete

794
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: for titles.

795
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: And then number.

796
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: Five does look the tricky one for me because I

797
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: had Leclaire and Norris as well. I hope my boy

798
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: Lando gets a W this year. But that the spot,

799
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: it's hard to figure out. Like Alonzo was impressive last year,

800
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: Signs was impressive last year. Russell obviously has the talent,

801
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: just hasn't had the car.

802
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 3: Russell Russell's an interesting answer there Again, I don't think

803
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 3: you can say I think Gasly's in the conversation. Gasly

804
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 3: is still I think shaking off the burden of what uh,

805
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: you know, what a difficult time he had in the

806
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: Red Bowl. But the truth is, since he's been back

807
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: at Alpha Tawi he's he's crushed it. He's been great,

808
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 3: he's been excellent as good. Probably the guy who I

809
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 3: think has overperformed compared to the car more than any

810
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: other driver on the grid, probably, which to me is

811
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 3: always a great barometer of true talent, Like where do

812
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: you think the median for the car is? And then

813
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 3: how far ahead is that guy? And you might say

814
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 3: that over the last couple of seasons, Pierre is the

815
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 3: guy who's furthest ahead in that regard. So you know,

816
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, any of those guys are

817
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: a good answer, but I don't think you can throw

818
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: him out.

819
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: All right, let us know in the comments who you

820
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: think the top five drivers in the sport are right now,

821
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: we'll check those out a little bit later. But we've

822
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: also got some car stuff happening this season. FI updated

823
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 1: the regulations for this year in an effort to basically

824
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 1: make overtaking a little bit easier, make things more exciting.

825
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: Correct from what I can tell, grad and the biggest

826
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: changes are a new ground effect, aerodynamic floor, new front

827
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: and wear ring wings, the sh shapes of them, the

828
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: side pods are different, and they got bigger tires. Correct

829
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: all correct eighteen inches. I would have gone twenties maybe

830
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: spending minus.

831
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have maybe yeah, maybe some lights under

832
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: the Yeah, what's gonna have the biggest effect here? I

833
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 3: mean the ground effect, you know, is the real, you know,

834
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 3: huge change here, right to shift the vast majority of

835
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: the error dynamic kind of you know, the downforce being

836
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: created to underneath the car from above, and hopefully that

837
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 3: will you know, mitigate the effects of dirty air, maybe

838
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 3: even eventually reduce the need for DRS and allow them

839
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 3: to get rid of that entirely because overtaking will be

840
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 3: more plausible without it. That's that's on the kind of

841
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: product roadmap or the regulatory roadmap. Their hope is to

842
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: do away with with drs. So I think those are

843
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: that's the big one. And you know, we're seeing teams

844
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 3: still figuring it out. You're seeing you know, there's.

845
00:39:59,160 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: Some porpoising out there.

846
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: There's some porpoises.

847
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 2: There's a little bit of porpoising fixing.

848
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 3: I wish there's a part of me that wisches the

849
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: porpis a singer a problem. And it was like nobody

850
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 3: could figure out how to.

851
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: Not sorry, our cars just swim.

852
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, they're they're they're bouncing around.

853
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: But I think that a good name for it, by

854
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: the way, like why porpoising as opposed like dolphining. Lots

855
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: of things that in it out of the water, but

856
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: like why did you go.

857
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: With the porpoise in particular?

858
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: Beautiful animal?

859
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: It is a beautiful, beautiful creature it.

860
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: Is, but it has a problem. It seems like it

861
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: would be the most annoying possible thing that could happen

862
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: when you're going two hundred and twenty miles an hour bouncing.

863
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 3: Because this whole tension is actually stiffer this year as well,

864
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 3: because they don't want it to impact the ground effect,

865
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 3: and the ventory tunnels underneath the car is actively so,

866
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 3: so they're feeling that up and down a lot. As

867
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 3: they're coming down, they're feeling it a lot, So I

868
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 3: think it must be weird. But those are that's the

869
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: biggest ticket item. Will see how well it pans out.

870
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 3: We'll see what sort of pace they can get out

871
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: of these cars. Of course, you have the simplified front

872
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 3: wings and rear wings. Those the change the look of

873
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: them is very different. The side pods from me are

874
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 3: the other thing where I don't know if i'd call

875
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 3: them the most important element. The ground effect, I would argue,

876
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 3: is the most important element. But they're the most fascinating

877
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 3: in the sense that, at least in all of my

878
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 3: time watching F one, I've never seen greater, like more

879
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 3: differentiation in how people approached it. They all look really

880
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 3: really different. Some are like really long and wide, some

881
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 3: are really boxy, Mercedes are barely existent.

882
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: They're like that. These are radically different design solutions, which

883
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: is normally not what you see. You see like people

884
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 2: kind of iterating towards an optimal state, you know.

885
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 3: So I think that's that's fascinating, and it'll be interesting

886
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 3: to see whether that really breaks up the grid and

887
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 3: some people just did the wrong thing, or whether oppositely,

888
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: there were multiple ways to skin this cat and actually

889
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 3: have really radically different design solutions that are very competitive.

890
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: I think that's also a very cool, fascinating outcome.

891
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's going to be interesting to see

892
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: if these like actually if it makes things more stratified

893
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: where you're like, whoops, we went the wrong way and

894
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: now we're porpoising all the time, we don't have a

895
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: chance here, or like you're saying, maybe there are several

896
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: different ways to do this and now the changes are

897
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: actually gonna work.

898
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 2: And we're gonna have a little bit more parody regulatory changes.

899
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 3: Big regulatory changes do tend to usher in like eras

900
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 3: of dominance or like shifts in the grid. You know,

901
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 3: every Mercedes dominance over the last several years is totally

902
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: in the wake of the move to the hybrid engine

903
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 3: and them nailing that and then nailing the rest of

904
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 3: the setup in relationship to that. So I think that

905
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 3: and that set them.

906
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: Up for years of excellence. So we'll see if somebody

907
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 2: else can nail it to that degree.

908
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: Last little bit of news that seems important to me.

909
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: Michael Massey, the former F one race director for the

910
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: last three seasons, has been replaced after the way last

911
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: year ended. Basically, I want to also amended the safety

912
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: car rule that caused a bunch of drama last season.

913
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: I wonder if those things went hand in hand. What's

914
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: the impact of changing a race director. They're going uh

915
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: with two actually now, Eduardo Freitas and Neil's Wittitch. It

916
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: will be alternating, I think.

917
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 3: And then my understanding is there also will be a

918
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 3: little bit more like off site support for them as well.

919
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: So there's so there's I think that was the perception,

920
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 3: the overwhelming perception was. I think the institutional take here

921
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 3: was Massey made a mistake. It really probably was not

922
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 3: entirely his fault from the stand of the FIA, in

923
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 3: the sense that he didn't have the resources he needed,

924
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 3: so we need to provide this person with more resources.

925
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 3: But the truth is this bridge is so intensely burned.

926
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 3: He cannot be the guy anymore because these teams are

927
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 3: are not willing to work with him.

928
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I think Red Bull was.

929
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: Literally the only team that didn't support replacing.

930
00:43:53,239 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: Massy needed to h.

931
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they. I think they.

932
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly how that's did they like ask

933
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 3: them or was there a vote? I'm not clear on that,

934
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 3: but I had read that like basically behind closed doors,

935
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 3: it was the only guy who wanted to keep him.

936
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: That's good. Why why do they do it so late

937
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: though it does seem very late, like late in the

938
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: game to me, It'll be changing a major figure in

939
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: the sport.

940
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,959
Speaker 3: That's a good question. I don't know why they would

941
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: wait around to do it.

942
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: I guess they. There was a lot of hemming and hauling.

943
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day.

944
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 3: It was they too close to the event itself, to

945
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 3: the final race, they didn't want.

946
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: To admit any fault.

947
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: I think they were they were trying to hold a

948
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 3: hard line and say we did everything correctly and then

949
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 3: with enough distance be like, oh, but independent of that,

950
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 3: we're making a change.

951
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I think season research again.

952
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.

953
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 3: I think that's what they're attempting to, you know, split

954
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: the difference between I don't think anybody's really buying that,

955
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: but you know, you give it a shot.

956
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: All right, Well that's all for our drivers, our cars,

957
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: our directors. Got to take a quick break here, but

958
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: when we get back, we're going to make some predictions

959
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty two season. Stick around boys are back,

960
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: no red shirts sports still here talking about engine freezes

961
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,959
Speaker 1: over the break. You don't want to have a bad

962
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: power unit. Shout out to the Slipstream team for telling

963
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 1: me about that engine freezes.

964
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 3: Had to get educated that it is going to be

965
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 3: a complicating factor, as we were talking about during the break.

966
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 3: That's my my belief that the secret reason you saw

967
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 3: botas have to do so many engine changes last year

968
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 3: and then be so willing to absorb those penalties is

969
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 3: because Mercedes was really focused on engine development in the

970
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: lead up to this engine freeze. I don't know if

971
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: I've actually ever seen that confirmed in the press, but

972
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 3: I would speculate that that's what they were doing. Is

973
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 3: they were throwing him under the bus in order to

974
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: make sure that they were able to move the engine

975
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 3: far enough forward in the lead.

976
00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 2: Up to this.

977
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: Oh, I can't wait till here it's a tell all book. Ye,

978
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: then we'll finally get to the bottom of this drama.

979
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: I don't know what.

980
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: Still totally totally.

981
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 3: Very dry, very very short economic, like a lot of

982
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 3: the short declarative sentences.

983
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: All right, enough, one does start for real this Friday.

984
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: There's already been some action on the track, however, thanks

985
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: to preseason testing like you mentioned in Barcelona and Bahrain.

986
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: Are you a sicko? Are you watching these preseason tests?

987
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 2: I watched a little bit of them. I watched a

988
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 2: little bit of them. I would.

989
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 3: I'm not a true sicco in the sense that I

990
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,760
Speaker 3: don't have them on for like all day.

991
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: Just on a monitor.

992
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 3: I'm following them, following the times, seeing how they're doing,

993
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: and checking in each day.

994
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 2: But let's be real. The preseason testing is not super engaging, obviously.

995
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear you say, and I have a

996
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: hard time like getting excited to watch preseason basketball. Oh

997
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: my god, Priseason racing is a tough ass, though I

998
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: did see some pretty like wild paint jobs. I remember

999
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: going out for.

1000
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 3: Tessa getting into like a big argument on his site.

1001
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: Like I forget who we were with, but Zach Low

1002
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 3: and I were defending the idea that, like you should

1003
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: that like watching preseason basketball in lieu of watching postseason

1004
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: baseball is actually insane that.

1005
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 2: I don't even like. But I don't even like baseball

1006
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 2: that much, but like Pussey's and baseball is inarguably better

1007
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: than preseason basketball.

1008
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 3: Like I and a bunch of other people thought that

1009
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 3: was ridiculous because it's basketball, and I was like, I

1010
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 3: don't know, man, I mean, this is this is not good.

1011
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about it a little earlier. You said

1012
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: you've been following the Times, and obviously there's a lot

1013
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: of news out there regarding testing. Is there are a

1014
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: team or a driver that's impressed you or surprised you.

1015
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 3: Well, we mentioned it earlier, but really impressed with Mick

1016
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 3: Schumacher on that last day. You know, he I thought

1017
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 3: looked great. You know, the hostcard generally looks like it

1018
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 3: has taken a step forward in the huge sac devices

1019
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 3: they made last.

1020
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 2: Year were worth it.

1021
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 3: Ferrari has got to be the standout one where a

1022
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 3: lot of pressure coming in a lot of hype. You know,

1023
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 3: people had said, oh, I think Ferrari's doing a good job.

1024
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: You know, I think they can compete again for titles.

1025
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 3: That was the expectation coming into preseason testing. It appears

1026
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 3: as if they've delivered and they have a car that

1027
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 3: can at least put one of their guys back on

1028
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 3: the top step.

1029
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 2: We'll see about the titles.

1030
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 3: So those are the I think those are the two

1031
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 3: where the you know, on both kind of the low

1032
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 3: end and the high end, the ones that have got

1033
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 3: to be the winners of preseason testing with the with

1034
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 3: the caveat that, like nobody's shocked.

1035
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: That, Like the red Bull looks really right, of course,

1036
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: you know, like that yet yeah.

1037
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 1: They won last year. Still look good. And the question,

1038
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: of course is Mercedes sandbagging. It always comes up to

1039
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: the sand bagging talks during preseasons.

1040
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 2: It does.

1041
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 3: It's it's a I cannot believe how it's what an

1042
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 3: annual tradition, tradition unlike.

1043
00:48:55,000 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 2: Any other every year saying the car and then it's like,

1044
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 2: uh JK, we've all lost by like twenty seconds.

1045
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: I will say it is weird that one of their

1046
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: solutions to porpoising was just like just just tie it

1047
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: down basically, you know, like put a bungee cord around

1048
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: it and they'll hold it down and'll be fine. There's

1049
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: got to be something more to the.

1050
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gotta be more. I don't know.

1051
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 3: The porpoising thing is a really complicated problem, a really

1052
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 3: complicated engineering problem. We'll see how much it's people really

1053
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 3: solve it versus how much of what he's into the season.

1054
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 3: I also think other changes the thing is it might

1055
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 3: come and go, because you'll see people continue to evolve

1056
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 3: parts of the car and might have unexpected you know,

1057
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,959
Speaker 3: these porpoises might unexpectedly rear their head.

1058
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: H you mean like that's not a sound?

1059
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do they do?

1060
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: I guess they make a dolphin sound.

1061
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: Did they go like a yeah, what's a what's a

1062
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 2: porpoise mean?

1063
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1064
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1065
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: Let us know. Let us know in the comments if

1066
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 1: you ever heard a porpoise. If you've ever heard a porpoise,

1067
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: let us know what they sound like. Please. You mentioned

1068
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two season. That's what we're talking about,

1069
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: So let's make some predictions about it. First. What I

1070
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: got for you gradon which team is gonna make the

1071
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: biggest jump in the standings.

1072
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with.

1073
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: Hass, I'm with you, I'm gonna go with HAS. I

1074
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: think the Hospital two.

1075
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 3: Three, you know up, I think you know the other ones.

1076
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody's in position to make a bigger

1077
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 3: leap than they will, you know, in the sense that

1078
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 3: even if Ferrari wins the title, they've actually they were

1079
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 3: third last year, you know, it's not that they've only

1080
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 3: moved up.

1081
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 4: So that's it sounds just like I think that's okay,

1082
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 4: that's yeah, that's hard.

1083
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's.

1084
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's there. That's their band.

1085
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, Has is gonna score some points this year. They

1086
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: were competitive in the recent past, you know, like competitive

1087
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: in the in like we're gonna score some points and

1088
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: not be trailing everybody.

1089
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 2: Truly embarrassing.

1090
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 3: Back marker is actually a comparatively recent phenomenon that wasn't

1091
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 3: the case when they first came into the sport. And

1092
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 3: I do think they can be back on the bottom

1093
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: half of that midfield pack consistently and you know, and

1094
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 3: I think they can, Yeah, there might pick So.

1095
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: Is there any sort of like concern with has about

1096
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: like being able to continue to feel the team now

1097
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: that they don't have their fertilizer guy around.

1098
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 3: They claim financially things are okay. And my understanding is

1099
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 3: that your ol Collie, which was the title sponsor that's

1100
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 3: now been pulled in the wake of all the various

1101
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 3: Russia sanctions.

1102
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 2: Is you had already paid them a lot of the money.

1103
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if they have to give it back

1104
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 3: or can you even give it back, like you're not

1105
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 3: allowed to wire money to people in Russia at the moment.

1106
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't I don't even know how you

1107
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 3: go about doing that, you know. So it's so maybe

1108
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 3: they just pocket it and then are like cool, we're

1109
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 3: out and wow, you know, but or maybe they try

1110
00:51:59,160 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 3: to give it back.

1111
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 2: Apparently they're okay.

1112
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 3: I imagine if that rears its ugly head, it's not

1113
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 3: even this year, it's like next year they have to

1114
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 3: take a step back because you know, developmental investments.

1115
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 2: Got disrupted or something like that. We'll also see how

1116
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 2: how quickly they can.

1117
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 3: They are, uh no stranger to title sponsor drama. That

1118
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 3: the craziest journey of weird title sponsors.

1119
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, next question, this one, This one's

1120
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: a tough one. Who's gonna make the biggest drop in

1121
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: the standings, Like maybe Alfa Romeo, maybe Williams. I mean,

1122
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: Williams was eighth. Maybe they could fall the tenth if

1123
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: they don't have a if their car is not doing

1124
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: it right in Alpha Romeo, I guess they could be tenth.

1125
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, to me, I don't know any one.

1126
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 3: And then just from a team standpoint, Yeah, it's probably

1127
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 3: it's it's yeah, maybe it's alf it's probably Williams honestly

1128
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 3: sliding two back unless you see somebody like unless like

1129
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 3: McLaren's way off the mark and ends up at the

1130
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 3: back of the midfielder something unexpectedly. You know, they're actually

1131
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 3: not that competitive against Alfatari and alp and like that

1132
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 3: that I could see that happening. The other one here

1133
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 3: Lett we forget. I mean, this would really shock me.

1134
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 2: But the answer could be Mercedes, sure, I mean if

1135
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 2: Mercedes is not sandbagging and they really didn't nail the

1136
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: car design and suddenly they're fourth in the championship or something,

1137
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a huge side so well.

1138
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: I mean even coming in third is a huge slide

1139
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: for them, right because I mean I don't at least

1140
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: for the past couple of seasons, it's been one and

1141
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: two are so far ahead. Yeah, of even three and

1142
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: four that you know, you're playing in a different field,

1143
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: in a different game basically. So yeah, I guess that's

1144
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see, Like how much are you

1145
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: faking the funk here? Mercedes? You got two good drivers,

1146
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: you've had a ton of success, but new cars, we're.

1147
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 3: Definitely there's you know, their boy who cried wolfing us, right,

1148
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 3: Like at this point nobody believes them, But I guess

1149
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 3: we'll see.

1150
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 2: We'll see on Sunday, all.

1151
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: Right, which driver do you think is going to be

1152
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: most successful on their new team? Probably a pretty easy

1153
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: pick here, George Russell moving to Mercedes.

1154
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Russell, I think probably has the biggest leap in point,

1155
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 3: you know, like that's he's at the biggest jump there. Yeah,

1156
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 3: I mean the answer is probably Russell, right, I guess

1157
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 3: like there's I don't. I'm not that bullish on Juan

1158
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 3: new Shows, not not to knock him as a driver.

1159
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 3: I just think it's incredibly hard to be a rookie

1160
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 3: in the sport. I don't actually think Albon is going

1161
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 3: to be all that successful.

1162
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 2: You know. The the sleeper here is k mag k Mag.

1163
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: Is that his nickname? Yeah? I like it. I think, well,

1164
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: he's going to look the most impressive. I think because

1165
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: Hass's car should probably be better. Probably he's going to

1166
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: be better than Mazapen was last year by a country mile,

1167
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: and you would think that he will. He will help

1168
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: mix Schumacher out, so they'll probably just get a little

1169
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: boost there with Schumacher being in his second year as well.

1170
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, we're I feel like we're a little

1171
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: too big on has right now to be quite you

1172
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: think we're like.

1173
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 2: I'm revising my prediction. Has win's the title.

1174
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 3: Shoebucker Game Egg one two has drivers and constructors.

1175
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: They clean up. It's not even closer many races by

1176
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 2: ten twenty seconds. It's like, yeah, who's.

1177
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: Taking home the most DNFs this year? I don't know

1178
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: if you take home a DNF or if you just

1179
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: leave it out there on the course.

1180
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 3: It's a shame because Masmin is the easy answer here.

1181
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 3: If he's still in a seat, I think, I hope

1182
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 3: it's not. I hope it's not my short king Yuki,

1183
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 3: but it might be. Like Yuki is kind of a

1184
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 3: mess out there. Sometimes I've crashed. He's a bit of

1185
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 3: a crash.

1186
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 2: He's a bit crashy.

1187
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like the answer is Yuki,

1188
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 3: but I don't want it to be.

1189
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: I think Albon will challenge for the title as well.

1190
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: Answer a bit of an aggressive driver. Like we mentioned,

1191
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: he had the touch ups with Hamilton not too long ago.

1192
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: And Williams iss were catching on fire during during preseason testing,

1193
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: I saw Nicholas Latifi was putting his own cars fire

1194
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: out with a fire extinguisher. That's kind of like when

1195
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: you're a driver and you don't like being passed and

1196
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: you get upset about it. You also don't want to

1197
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: be the driver who has to put your own car

1198
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: out when it's on fire. Yeah. So yeah, behind the

1199
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: eight ball for Williams to start the season, there's the

1200
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 1: big two questions though, who's going to be the constructors Champion,

1201
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 1: Who's going to be the driver's champion, handle them separate

1202
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 1: or together if you want to.

1203
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: I found a lot about this. Yeah, and I'm I'm

1204
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 2: gonna hot I mean, there's like, what I really thinking?

1205
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 3: That is my hot take answer. I'm gonna say Ferrari

1206
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:44,240
Speaker 3: and Charyl Leclair.

1207
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with my heart.

1208
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go. I mean, you could easily pick

1209
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: Red Bull and Max for stopping, but that's no fun.

1210
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: I mean it's no fun.

1211
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: I even picked Mercedes and uh Lewis Hamilton last year.

1212
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: I'm doing it again. It's a bounce back year, but

1213
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: now it'll be fun because it's a bounce back year.

1214
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,280
Speaker 2: Nobody's picking Red Bull on this podcast.

1215
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: Honestly, Red Bull should Red Bull should probably be even

1216
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: better this year, don't you think. I mean Perez a

1217
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: weird car, kind of a weird season for Perez, like

1218
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: I was expected he to me, like you were mentioning

1219
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 1: ghastly is a guy who gets a lot more out

1220
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: of his car than it seems like he should. That

1221
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: to me was Perez before he got to Red Bull.

1222
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: So I thought he would hop into this elite car

1223
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: and be one of like the championship contending drivers, which

1224
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: I think he finished fourth, so he was, but it

1225
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: wasn't like instantly a perfect match there.

1226
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 3: But he finished fourth, but like twenty five points, yeah,

1227
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 3: maybe not even ahead of like Carlos signs in fifth,

1228
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 3: which is given the gap between those cars that should

1229
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 3: have been much larger.

1230
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: You know.

1231
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 3: That's that's actually where I will say with this, you

1232
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 3: could see another split title where you know, Max walks

1233
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 3: away with the Driver's championship. He's so talented and he's

1234
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 3: in a great car. But if let's say Ferrari has

1235
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 3: a very competitive car or even the equivalent card to

1236
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 3: Red Bull, you know, our l C and signs the

1237
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 3: better duo and they bring home the the constructors title.

1238
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 2: I think that's plausible. It is plausible.

1239
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:10,479
Speaker 1: Same thing with Mark.

1240
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 2: If Mark figures out the car and it's actually really good.

1241
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 3: It seems to me like there's multiple guys who could

1242
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 3: take the title, but actually a different team was better.

1243
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. To me, it seems like Red Bull is a

1244
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: lock to finish in the top three. Of the of

1245
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,959
Speaker 1: the teams out there, they're the most like they're gonna

1246
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: finish top three and be great top two probably to

1247
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: be quite honest, if.

1248
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 3: They're not top two, I'd be pretty shocked if they're

1249
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 3: not top two. It's only because I mean, I.

1250
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: Guess this is what I'm about to say is obvious,

1251
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 2: but it's like.

1252
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 3: I think Mercedes and Red Bull, Mercedes and Ferrari, excuse me,

1253
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 3: have wildly overachieved. If somehow they they knock Red Bull

1254
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 3: out of the top two, it's like that's a huge

1255
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 3: outcome for both of those teams.

1256
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 2: A huge out come.

1257
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess what I'm saying is just that, like

1258
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: Red Bull seems like, you know, they've had They've had

1259
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: a lot of great seasons in a row. They finally

1260
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: got over the hump last year with Max winning. They're

1261
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: gonna be good again. Whereas Mercedes, it seems like they're

1262
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: probably sandbagging. They're they've got good drivers, they've been great

1263
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 1: in the past. They'll probably be good as well. Hopefully

1264
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: they are sandbagging, and hopefully Ferrari's like preseason testing is

1265
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: legit and that they can actually compete as well, because

1266
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: having three teams go for the championship, that's better than

1267
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: having two teams go for the trip.

1268
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 3: People forget, but even just back as recently as twenty seventeen,

1269
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, you know, that sixteen seventeen eighteen era. Even

1270
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 3: in nineteen you know, Mercedes was always like pretty confidently

1271
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 3: winning the titles. They were normally not that threatened in

1272
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 3: the constructors Championship, but in actuality, Red Bull, Ferrari and

1273
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 3: Mercedes all were regularly winning races. The team you saw

1274
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,919
Speaker 3: in the top to win any given race was very,

1275
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 3: very competitive across those three teams, depending upon which the

1276
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 3: track favored their various you know, car designs. And I

1277
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 3: think you could see a world where we're back in

1278
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 3: that where it's actually even if somebody emerges as the

1279
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 3: leader the pack, actually any given race is very exciting

1280
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 3: and there's a lot of the wide the wide array

1281
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 3: of design directions we've seen with the cars well you know,

1282
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 3: leads to a lot of variants track to track.

1283
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: So hopefully that's the case. You got our picks Charls

1284
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: Leclair and Ferrari, Lewis, Hamilton and Mercedes Homers Homers, big

1285
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: time Homer picks here, but leave yours down below in

1286
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: the comments. We want to hear who you got for

1287
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: the constructors Champion and the Driver's Champion In the twenty

1288
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: twenty two season. We're going to take one last break here.

1289
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: When we get back, we're going to Bahrain. We're staying here,

1290
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: but we will be talking about the Bahrain ground. Stick

1291
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: around and we're back. I'm mess messing with my monitors.

1292
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: This is a lot of dumb, dumb. What a dummy. Anyways,

1293
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: this isn't just a season preview for the Formula One season.

1294
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: It's also race week, Graydon Bahrain Grand Prix kicks things

1295
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: off this weekend. We got practice Friday, qualifying Saturday, than

1296
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: the real deal Sunday morning, ten fifty five am Eastern.

1297
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 2: That's a nice time. That's a nice time am Eastern

1298
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 2: here here in the Eastern times.

1299
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: That's right. That'll be on ESPN, the big boy ESPN.

1300
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: We're not on ESPN two for the race, so you

1301
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: know it's a.

1302
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 2: Big deal worldwide leader yes, right.

1303
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: Twenty two races currently on the calendar going until November,

1304
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: with a lot of breaks in between. Got two races

1305
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: in the States this year, actually they added that Miami one.

1306
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 2: Yep.

1307
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: I suppose they could add some more races to the calendar,

1308
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,439
Speaker 1: but we shall see. Definitely starting in Bahrain. Last year's

1309
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: podium Hamilton for stopping there with Mercedes. If you remember

1310
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: this race, Verstappen overtook Hamilton lap fifty two, but it

1311
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: was outside track limits. Hamilton may or may not have

1312
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: forced him or tricked him to go outside of track limits,

1313
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: so then Max had to get the spot back. Hamilton

1314
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 1: takes the lead. He wins. Took all of one race

1315
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: for these two to get into a skirmish last year.

1316
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 1: I wonder if we'll see the same sort of fireworks

1317
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: this year. Lewis Hamilton has won in Bahrain in fourteen,

1318
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, nineteen, twenty and twenty one. Do

1319
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: you care at all about historical records when the regulations

1320
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: have changed? Are we just thrown out the window?

1321
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 3: I think he likes the track and he you know,

1322
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 3: he excels there. But it's also it's like there's so

1323
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 3: many tracks where it's like and Lewis.

1324
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 2: Hamilton is one year, this year, this year, this year.

1325
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's like it's like you need multiple hands

1326
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 3: to count them all.

1327
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 2: Like, so it's it's almost he's such an anomaly in

1328
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 2: that regard.

1329
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 3: I don't know that it makes him the favorite going

1330
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 3: into this weekend, but you know, I guess we'll see.

1331
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 3: I do think this is an interesting track because it's

1332
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 3: probably one of the ones where you see the biggest

1333
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 3: gap between practice and the race itself because practice is

1334
01:02:58,280 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 3: during the day and then it goes into the evening

1335
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 3: and track temperatures change a lot over the course of

1336
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 3: the day. That that affects I think tire strategy a lot.

1337
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 3: There's a lot more X factors there. All the more

1338
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 3: interesting because the tires are new, and I think there's

1339
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 3: a lot of data still to be collected on how

1340
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 3: they handle, how they degrade, you know, and what the

1341
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 3: what the optimal strategy is. This is always a tough

1342
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 3: track to nail the tire strategy, even more so this year.

1343
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: So that's kind because of the temperature differences, because of

1344
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: the temperature temperatures.

1345
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, the temperature differences in the air and the track temperature.

1346
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 3: I think that's got to be the that's the biggest factor,

1347
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 3: because I think only p too, like Practice two is

1348
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 3: the only one where they're running kind of close to

1349
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 3: you know.

1350
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 2: Race conditions.

1351
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 3: So it's so, you know, it makes it it makes

1352
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 3: it a challenge to know, you know, you don't have

1353
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 3: the right data. So and I think all the more

1354
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 3: so because these tires are pretty new.

1355
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that makes sense to me. Uh. With with

1356
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: the NBA, we always do after you know, it kicks

1357
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 1: off on Tuesday night, two games, then they play like

1358
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: one hundred on that Wednesday night.

1359
01:03:58,240 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we always do.

1360
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: It's only one game. But where we're overreacting to what happened.

1361
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: It's the very first thing of the season. Does that

1362
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: happen for Formula One?

1363
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god?

1364
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean I assume yes. But this year you

1365
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 1: gotta be like, Okay, so we got a completely new car.

1366
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: We don't know what's going on with the tires. We

1367
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on with the porpoises. We don't

1368
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 1: know what sound of porpoise makes. Does it make a

1369
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: dolphin noise?

1370
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 2: Does it even make it sound? Do you think it's

1371
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 2: like a cow?

1372
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? So to me, it seems like it's gonna be

1373
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 1: hard to overreact to this one unless somebody comes away

1374
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 1: like completely blows out the field and you're like, uh oh,

1375
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: that's the best car by far.

1376
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 3: I could not disagree more. I think it is so

1377
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 3: easy to overreact to this one. It's a blake slate.

1378
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 3: No matter who wins. You could say they're gonna win

1379
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 3: every race. I think it's a perfect platform on which

1380
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 3: to say, literally, whatever the heck you want to just

1381
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 3: make it, to just go as extreme and crazy with

1382
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:50,919
Speaker 3: your takes coming out of it as you want.

1383
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: Well, maybe this is when the has March for the

1384
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: Championship starts, though, making.

1385
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:58,919
Speaker 2: The Schumacher's crowned yet again.

1386
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: If you had to make a pick for who wins

1387
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: this weekend, who you got, Oh.

1388
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 3: My god, I mean I guess, I guess Max is

1389
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 3: a smart pick as the smart pick.

1390
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: But.

1391
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 3: This has gotta be the this has got I mean,

1392
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 3: that's that's as impossible.

1393
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 2: That question will get easier as the season goes on,

1394
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 2: but this is that's a tough question to answer from

1395
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 2: where we stand right now.

1396
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 1: Well, it's gonna be Carlos signs. I don't know if

1397
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 1: you know that.

1398
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 2: I love that it's right there.

1399
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,479
Speaker 1: Here's another one I need to know. Islando Norris getting

1400
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: to win this year?

1401
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 3: I'd love to see it, although I feel like all

1402
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 3: episode have kind of been dogg and McLaren are like

1403
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 3: a little bit like a little bit bearish on them,

1404
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 3: So I don't know if I you know, But the

1405
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 3: truth is is he's got the talent, and I think

1406
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 3: you'll see enough variation and actually, the field is tight

1407
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 3: enough that the difference between the very top teams and

1408
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 3: the midfield teams is narrow enough that, yes, Norris Cam

1409
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 3: pull it off. I think you might need a little

1410
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 3: bit of help, but let's hope so because he really

1411
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 3: deserves it. He really deserved it last year. And soci

1412
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 3: speaking of which, I think you mentioned there twenty two

1413
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,479
Speaker 3: races on the calendar. I think they intend to add

1414
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 3: a twenty third. Yeah, because they canceled so cheap and

1415
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 3: now that's raight too, but I think they're gonna replace it,

1416
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 3: so I so I do think in the end we'll

1417
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 3: get twenty.

1418
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: Three, just like Michael Jordan, just like Lebron James. Yeah,

1419
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: just like Draymond Green.

1420
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 3: And it looks like we might get a third next year,

1421
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 3: we might get a third American race or soon.

1422
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:22,919
Speaker 2: Where Las Vegas. That's what they're talking about talk about.

1423
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that'll be a tough one.

1424
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 3: I don't know if the pens to paper yet, but

1425
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 3: I think they're literally talking about setting it up or

1426
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 3: like the main straight is the strip.

1427
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 2: It would be like a road that crazy Vegas. I know,

1428
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 2: it'd be insane, Yeah, really cool, he insane.

1429
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: They're still gonna have the guys standing on the corner. Hey,

1430
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: strip club, strip club?

1431
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 2: You want to go? I guess.

1432
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 1: Just yelling at the drivers and.

1433
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 2: Then go by. I mean, why, that's part of the landscape.

1434
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 1: Craziest thing. One of those guys ever said to me, Hey,

1435
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: you want some nipples on that beard? What? What?

1436
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 2: What was your answer to that?

1437
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I gotta go record a summer league.

1438
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 3: Shi, I'm trying to watch some I'm trying to watch

1439
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 3: some Breezeason basketball here.

1440
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly. But uh, I think that does it. I

1441
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: think that does it for us. We talked about every driver,

1442
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: we talked about all the cars. We made some predictions.

1443
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: We looked at the race this weekend. What else.

1444
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 2: I can't wait to go back and listen to this

1445
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 2: episode at the end of the.

1446
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 3: Season and realize how off my predications were, Like, just

1447
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 3: how wrong I was.

1448
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: That's all right, That's how it is. Thanks so much

1449
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 1: to everybody who joined us today. Make sure you follow

1450
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 1: Graydon on Twitter at mister Gordian. It's the only way

1451
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna find out where the Buffalo were in the

1452
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: nineteenth century.

1453
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 3: It's incredible when you see that map to think they

1454
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 3: reached all the way down here to Atlanta. Buffalo Herds

1455
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 3: naturally here in Atlanta.

1456
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: Love to hear it. Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok,

1457
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: basically wherever where there is social media, it's at No

1458
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 1: dunks Ink. Subscribe to the Athletic at the Athletic dot

1459
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 1: Com slash No Dunks only a dollar a month for

1460
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: the next six months, and I know they got F

1461
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 1: one content coming around the bend. Also send us some emails.

1462
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: Hit us up at No Dunks at the Athletic dot

1463
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: Com put No Breaks in the subject. We're gonna be

1464
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: doing this show a lot more this season, so your

1465
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: questions will be much appreciated, and you'll ask us some

1466
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 1: things that we never even thought about. Uh, you got anything,

1467
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: j D.

1468
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 2: No, that's all I got. Yeah, you know that's it,

1469
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 2: all right.

1470
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: Make sure to tune back in to No Breaks next week.

1471
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 1: It's the only F one podcast that plays your porpoise sounds.

1472
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 1: Clipper Bros.

1473
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:35,799
Speaker 2: You heard it here first.

1474
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,839
Speaker 1: Have a great time, Turn up, love you guys, awesome,

1475
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 1: Stay beady. People from Room New