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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Technically you're getting two days in history today

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Speaker 1: because we're running two episodes from the History Vault. Hope

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Speaker 1: you enjoy. Hello, Welcome to this dand history class, where

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Speaker 1: we dust off a little piece of history every day.

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Speaker 1: The day was March twenty second, nineteen sixteen. After Yun

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Speaker 1: Republic of China in nineteen twelve, he had attempted to

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Speaker 1: Yuen's death soon after in June nineteen sixteen, created a

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Speaker 1: the warlord era. Early on, Yuin served in the Cheen

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Speaker 1: Brigade of the Anhui Army, which was sent to Korea

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Speaker 1: Japanese War broke out in eighteen ninety four, and he

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Speaker 1: He was appointed governor of Shandong Province in eighteen ninety nine,

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Speaker 1: Soun yat Sin resigned as provisional President and Yuen took

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Speaker 1: by warlordism and the week central government. I'm Eve Jeff

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Speaker 1: same time tomorrow. Hey, y'all, it's Eves again. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: this day in History class. Today. I'm joined by Annie

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Speaker 1: Reese Hi and Samantha mcphagh. Hey, y'all of stuff Mom

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Speaker 1: never told you. Thank you so much for having as.

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Speaker 1: We're so excited to be here, very excited. I'm excited

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Speaker 1: You've probably hurt me over there talking about female first

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Speaker 1: to be joined by them for this episode about Anne Hutchinson,

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Speaker 1: and they will kick it off and let us know

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Speaker 1: about what happened today. Yea, So on this day in history,

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Speaker 1: Anne Hutchinson is who we're talking about. I'm really excited.

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Speaker 1: Was banished from Massachusetts Bay Colony and excommunicated. She's considered

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Speaker 1: as she grew up, her father, who was a dissident priest,

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Speaker 1: on Anne Hutchinson. She married a well off merchant from

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Speaker 1: a good family named William Hudginson in sixteen twelve. In

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Speaker 1: When Hudginson was forty three. She used her training as

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Speaker 1: instead the Covenant of Grace ideology, and this basically, in

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Speaker 1: In sixteen thirty seven, hut was tried for sedition and heresy.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Yes. He labeled her meetings as quote

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Speaker 1: So did she influence other women? Yes, she definitely had

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