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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to Move the Sticks, presented by

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Speaker 1: the Forward F Series. I'm DJ, he is Bucky and Bucky.

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Speaker 1: How many how many of these pods were doing a

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Speaker 1: week now? Three three podcasts each week? Yeah, we've got

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Speaker 1: a Tuesday, We've got a Thursday, and we've got our

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Speaker 1: tent Takeaway podcast which you get up on Monday morning.

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Speaker 1: and they're like Monday mornings right there. Well, we got

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Speaker 1: a lot to get to today, though, Buck, We've got,

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Speaker 1: first of all, plenty of content people can check out

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Speaker 1: But Buck, we got a big one. We got a

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Speaker 1: big one today. Big one today obviously the game of

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Speaker 1: the week this week at the Green Bay Packison the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. We will talk about the Keys today game,

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Speaker 1: how the college game is impact in the NFL, particularly

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Speaker 1: at the quarterback position, and you will release your top. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot to get to. They're also going to have

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Speaker 1: our college picks, which uh, everybody looks forward to down. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe not so much on my but still in last place,

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Speaker 1: we're we're coming hard, we're getting closer, and we're closing

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Speaker 1: in on the third place. There with you. First thing

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Speaker 1: to do that, let's jump in on this first game here,

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Speaker 1: Packers Cowboys. I think it's the game of the week.

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Speaker 1: And when you look for the keys to this ball game,

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Speaker 1: let's let's start with the with the Green Bay Packers

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Speaker 1: here first. What's the key? The key the Packers running game? Men,

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Speaker 1: they have to have balance and who is going to

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Speaker 1: Packers Toime Montgomery dealing with the ribs. Jamal Williams also

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys and what they want to do defensively,

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Speaker 1: the air team that will play some man to man.

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Speaker 1: They'll play the Tampa two, but we saw them against

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Speaker 1: Man to man has been the nemesis for Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers. And then I flip over to this

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Speaker 1: Packers defense Buck and I look at the key for

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Speaker 1: them and this, I think it's being able to get

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Speaker 1: I think they'll devote a lot of bodies to get

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Speaker 1: that done. The challenge is gonna be getting to Dak

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Speaker 1: some some slow developing targets, is a nice way of

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Speaker 1: what's dedicated to slow down Zeke Elliott, I think the

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Speaker 1: and getting disrupted his rhythm. The key to the Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys attack has been when they've been able to spread

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Speaker 1: Let's flip it over to the Dallas Cowboys. The key

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Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, it's really about the the entire team

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Speaker 1: It's let's pick a winner in this ball game. Who

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Speaker 1: going with the Green Bay Packers. I think the Green

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Speaker 1: the big difference there. Bucket. And one of the things

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Speaker 1: guys to play fast, play loose, and free. They are

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Speaker 1: doing that. It's one of the reasons why the defense

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Speaker 1: ranks number one and points allowed to Davis White is

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Speaker 1: playing outstanding on the corner in their role and Buck

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Speaker 1: we have to do it each in every episode, we

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Speaker 1: have to talk about treat Cohen. I mean, you're obligated. High.

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Speaker 1: I was excited because he had that nickname of the

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Speaker 1: human joystick at college. I tried to give him a

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Speaker 1: new nickname of chicken salad because he is able to

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Speaker 1: make chicken salad out of the other stuff. And I

435
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Speaker 1: read an article last week that said he preferred that

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Speaker 1: nickname over the human joystick. So he's he's a move

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Speaker 1: the sticks listener apparently, which is what I love about

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Speaker 1: Trek Cohen. But look, Buck, he's he's an outstanding player

439
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Speaker 1: in the passing game screen draw back. When you get

440
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Speaker 1: him in space, one man is not going to get

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Speaker 1: him on the ground. He's just too quick, he's too explosive.

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Speaker 1: You better bring a buddy. I mean, he's everything that

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Speaker 1: you want in that hybrid role. He's a guy that

444
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Speaker 1: can run it. He's very effective working on the edge

445
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Speaker 1: of the star make you miss ability. But then in

446
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Speaker 1: the passing game, outstanding out runners, soft hands, he's dependable.

447
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Speaker 1: He might be their most explosive offensive weapon. And that's

448
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Speaker 1: saying a lot for a guy that is a rookie

449
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Speaker 1: that is coming in three. Coin has been very very impressive. Well,

450
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Speaker 1: we've been kind of clumping these guys together in five

451
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Speaker 1: s here, but now we get to the top five,

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Speaker 1: top five. Put on your radio voice. Let's slow it down,

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Speaker 1: slow down, Let's slow down. Let's go one by one.

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Speaker 1: Hair here we go, Malik Hooker at number five. MALIEK

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Speaker 1: Cooker comes in at number five. Who's been outstanding this year.

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Speaker 1: He's got this NBR. Now all of a sudden, what's

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Speaker 1: going on. We're just slowing it down down there, that's

458
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Speaker 1: what we're doing. We got we can see the top

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Speaker 1: of Look, Mallek Cooker, Dalvin Cook, Jamal Adams at three,

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson to and Cream Hunt a one. But we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go one by one. We're slowing it down, slowing

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Speaker 1: it down. And when when you look, first of all,

463
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Speaker 1: Mille Cooker buck the ball skills. The fact he's tied

464
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Speaker 1: to the lead league lead and interceptions is one of

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Speaker 1: the least surprising things I've seen. This least surprising is

466
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Speaker 1: funny because when those comparisons were made, the ad read

467
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Speaker 1: people snickered and laugh. We have some eye rolls, but

468
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Speaker 1: you're beginning to see how effective he is in the

469
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Speaker 1: deep middle to medicine. This interception here off the tip

470
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Speaker 1: against the Seattle and then and then the return skills.

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Speaker 1: So yes, he still needs to clean up detackling, but

472
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Speaker 1: he has been as good as advertised when it comes

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Speaker 1: to producing takeaways. Dalvin Cook I put it number four. Look,

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Speaker 1: I I'm super bummed about the c is gonna be

475
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Speaker 1: out for the season, but I do these updates every quarter.

476
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Speaker 1: He will disappear from the list as we go forward.

477
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Speaker 1: But for what he did the first quarter of the season,

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Speaker 1: he already established himself one of the best runners in

479
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Speaker 1: the NFL. He belonged to near the top of this list. Absolutely,

480
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Speaker 1: his ability to wiggle in the hole, to stop start, quickness,

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Speaker 1: uh to take it into toughness that he displayed. They

482
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Speaker 1: talked about him being a special player when I visited

483
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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings in training camp. He's certainly little like

484
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Speaker 1: he was on his way to be one of the

485
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Speaker 1: best at a position alright. Number three on the list

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Speaker 1: Jamal Adams, a guy we both loved coming through the

487
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Speaker 1: process last year who's been an outstanding force player, great angles,

488
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Speaker 1: firm tackler, has been around the football a little bit.

489
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Speaker 1: He's not gonna have the ball production that you saw

490
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Speaker 1: from a Lee Cooker didn't see it in college. I

491
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Speaker 1: don't think we'll see it in the NFL. But he's

492
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Speaker 1: a rock solid player. You know exactly what you're getting

493
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Speaker 1: with Jamal Adams. Absolutely. He is what we call a

494
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Speaker 1: thermostat leader, meaning that the temperature of the room changes

495
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Speaker 1: when he walks in. I think it's not a coincidence

496
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Speaker 1: that the Jets have gotten off to a surprise and

497
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Speaker 1: two and to start behind the defense that is better

498
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Speaker 1: than advertised. Look, Jamal Adams is coming. There has been

499
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Speaker 1: the playmaker that they expected. He gives him energy, he's

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Speaker 1: a natural leader, and he does a great job of

501
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Speaker 1: holding his teammates accountable. This defense is carrying the Jets

502
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Speaker 1: to the surprising start. I'm with you on that number two.

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Speaker 1: We don't need to spend much time Shaun Watson. We've

504
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Speaker 1: talked about him plenty already on the show. What he's done,

505
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Speaker 1: especially the last two starts. When you look at what

506
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Speaker 1: he did against New England and almost pulling that game

507
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Speaker 1: out and then just the destruction of the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 1: He comes in at number two on the list, and

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Speaker 1: you can argue in most years he'd be number one.

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Speaker 1: But this year, like last year where we had a

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Speaker 1: rookie lead the league in rushing, we're right back there again.

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Speaker 1: But Kareem Hunt has been outstanding, not just leading the

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Speaker 1: league and rushing. I think at this point in time,

514
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Speaker 1: we're a quarter in, he's he's an m VP discussion.

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Speaker 1: He has to be an m VP discussion because he's

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Speaker 1: been everything for that offense. He's a one man show

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Speaker 1: and turns. His ability to run, catch the ball out

518
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Speaker 1: the backfield delivered a big place and to close games out.

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Speaker 1: We have seen Kareem Hunt really step his game up

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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. His ability to assault games away

521
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Speaker 1: with his no nonsense running style has made the kansee

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs maybe the favorite in the a f C.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if many of us expected at

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Speaker 1: prior to the season more valuable player right now through

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Speaker 1: a quarter right now that we're talking about rookies here,

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Speaker 1: but would you go with the quarterback Alex Smith that

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Speaker 1: would you go with this running back Kreem Hunt. I

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Speaker 1: think Kareem Hunt has given them what they needed. I

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Speaker 1: believe he's the most valuable player. You think about when

530
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Speaker 1: Jamal Charles was at his peak in his front Kareem

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Speaker 1: Hunt has basically stepped in and done the same things.

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Speaker 1: Is one of the reason why the offense is rolling. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's he's been outstanding. I think he's very deserving that

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Speaker 1: number one spot. You can find the full article here

535
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Speaker 1: where I go through this Top twenty five NFL dot

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Speaker 1: Com slash rookie rankings. Um and trust me, I get

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Speaker 1: lots of feedback on Twitter when you do. Anytime you

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Speaker 1: do a list, you're gonna get feedback. Yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 1: that's part of the list. List are great. Disclaimer. I

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Speaker 1: haven't got a chance to study every rookie in there,

541
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Speaker 1: not yet, but I'm gonna continue to expand that list.

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Speaker 1: You'll see some new names get tossed in there, and

543
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Speaker 1: this will evolve. It's a fun thing. Look the draft,

544
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Speaker 1: that's my baby. This is just something. This is a hobby. Yeah,

545
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Speaker 1: that's this is a hobby. So it's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the feedback. Keep it coming. Move the sticks

547
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Speaker 1: there on Twitter, all right, Buck, I hate doing it,

548
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Speaker 1: but well you know you love doing it. College picks

549
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Speaker 1: come on, this is a favorite for it. He is

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Speaker 1: Eppie stay here? Who does ePIE stay here? We had

551
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Speaker 1: to buy. Maybe we had to buy this week. Yeah,

552
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Speaker 1: I still can't believe we don't beat We should have

553
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Speaker 1: beat wake Force. We get a feel goal blocked. We

554
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Speaker 1: lose Wake Force. Wake Force gives Florida State all they

555
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Speaker 1: can handle. Should would oh man? So bad? All right,

556
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Speaker 1: let's let's look at the standings here of where we're

557
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Speaker 1: at on these and the only reason we have these

558
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Speaker 1: boards because the guys behind the glass they like to

559
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Speaker 1: kind of show off, right, Yeah they do. Maybe Kent

560
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Speaker 1: and Sully both ten and one. There's no there's no

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Speaker 1: reason to talk about last week, so we wanted the

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Speaker 1: next week. They had big weeks. I had a nine

563
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Speaker 1: and two weeks which I'm pretty darn proud of that

564
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Speaker 1: put me within a game of you of a third

565
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Speaker 1: place there. But Kent solely in first place six games back,

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Speaker 1: Sully right behind him, and then a little bit of

567
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Speaker 1: a gap between them and us. But we're charging hard

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Speaker 1: this week. I think I think Kent's kind of going

569
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Speaker 1: crazy this week, taking some underdogs we'll see here in

570
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Speaker 1: a second, feeling himself. Think he's filling himself. Catch him

571
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Speaker 1: slipping this week? Yeah, he's which means there's probably a

572
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Speaker 1: bunch upsets coming and he's gonna look really smart and

573
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Speaker 1: we're gonna look really dumb. Here. Uh, let's jump into

574
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Speaker 1: the games though this week. Buck West Virginia TCU. That's

575
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Speaker 1: our two points special um TCU. I mean he's a

576
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Speaker 1: darn good coach. Gary Patterson does a great job. We

577
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Speaker 1: know about their defense, but it's not about that West

578
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Speaker 1: Virginia can scores. This is a tough one where you

579
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Speaker 1: leaning on this. I light a quarterback from West Virginia,

580
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Speaker 1: Will Will, big time player played at Florida transfer Florida

581
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Speaker 1: has not been the same offensively since he left. He

582
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Speaker 1: is coming there and really giving him a spark, nice

583
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Speaker 1: arc and make all the throws. But I'm going with

584
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Speaker 1: the other quarterback with a thrill, trill, trill, that's true

585
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Speaker 1: and real. That's Kenny Hill. Okay, I'm I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if k Yeah k trill versus Will

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Speaker 1: got trill over Will. I'm with you on that. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go TCU as well. Looks like the guys behind

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Speaker 1: the glass agree with us. It's a clean sweep for

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Speaker 1: TCU in the two point game. All right, Louisville n

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Speaker 1: C State, this is a thirsty Thursday game here, I'm

592
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Speaker 1: excited about this one. NC State with their defensive line

593
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Speaker 1: and what they bring to the table. Bradley Chubb is

594
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Speaker 1: a stud going up against Lamar Jackson and Louisville offensive line,

595
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Speaker 1: but personally, I think has no chance of blocking NC State.

596
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Speaker 1: It's just a matter of whether or not Lamar Jackson

597
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Speaker 1: be superman. I think Lamar Jackson is gonna be superman.

598
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Speaker 1: I think he will begin to reignite the conversation about

599
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Speaker 1: his ability to maybe win the Heisman Trophy. And I

600
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Speaker 1: know that they don't have a lot in front of him,

601
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Speaker 1: but he's a spectacular playmaker. And anytime you put NC

602
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Speaker 1: State on my list, I'm going to op. I'm going Louisville.

603
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson goes big. Sully is with you on Louisville.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you on Louisville. Kent is the lone wolf

605
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Speaker 1: on NC State and the fact that it's at NC State,

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Speaker 1: I'm tempted to Oh god, I was templed tempted to

607
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Speaker 1: switch to NC State. Is it too late to switch? Uh? No,

608
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Speaker 1: you could switch it, last minute switch. I'm going NC State.

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Speaker 1: Can you're no longer retract the lone wolf? No? Longer.

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Speaker 1: I'm switching right now. I'm going to just let's just

611
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Speaker 1: start an air horn. There we go. Yeah, yeah, this

612
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: is a lot. I haven't done that yet, but I'm

613
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Speaker 1: feeling NC State on this. When I like that defensive line,

614
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Speaker 1: get after him. In fact, it's at NC State Thursday

615
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Speaker 1: night game. Buck, Come on, you're never gonna pick him.

616
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Speaker 1: What if we had what if next week we had

617
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Speaker 1: NC State Worth North Carolina Anti? I think at the

618
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Speaker 1: amore maybe coming back walk us through that? All right?

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Speaker 1: I love that about you. All right, this is a

620
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Speaker 1: huge one. Reggie, by the way, we ran in Reggie

621
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Speaker 1: Way in the hallway the other day. He's already gotta

622
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Speaker 1: have it. He knows this is a big one. Miami

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Speaker 1: Florida State. Uh in this game, Buck, I just studied

624
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Speaker 1: Mark Walton. I showed you some some clips of him.

625
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Speaker 1: He's nice for he's a good running back. In Derwin

626
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Speaker 1: James hasn't had a huge year, maybe that we would

627
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Speaker 1: have expected, but everybody acknowledges what type of player he is.

628
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Speaker 1: Miami at Florida State, Florida State drops this game, they'd

629
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Speaker 1: be one in three, maybe one in three. You know what,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna need that. Uh, I think I'm

631
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Speaker 1: gonna need an air horn because oh you gonna reverse.

632
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Speaker 1: I think I think its switch it up because I

633
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Speaker 1: just I just revers. What about some breaks can we get?

634
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Speaker 1: We need to get like heard, let's get that because

635
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Speaker 1: coming in, like I understand Francois was the loss of

636
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: Francois really hurt him. But like, look, Florida State, they

637
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: got dudes, they have to be more than that. I

638
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: know they didn't. They stumbled a little bit against wake Forest,

639
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: but Miami. Has Miami played anybody yet? Hasn't you played anybody?

640
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: Do we know too? Duke? Yeah, we just wanted how

641
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: North Carolina do against Duke? Oh no, we're not good. Okay,

642
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 1: I'm just asking. We're not We're not good though. You

643
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: know what, you know what, he's going back, Tomahawk, Florida State.

644
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: We're coming back, so back. So not only that's that's

645
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: a double, that's an airhorn for changing your pick and

646
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: alone wolf and alone wolf back to back. You forgot

647
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: the airhorns. So I did the an already I want

648
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 1: to be and there it is. I gotta we got

649
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: a wolf that likes the party. There we go, all right,

650
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: So I gotta cross Bucky out from Miami and put

651
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: this is off the rails today. Michigan State Michigan quick

652
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: side story. I'm at my niece's. It was either a

653
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: baby shower or first birthday party. Um, and it was

654
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: at a house and there was a lot of people there,

655
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: so it's kind of a little bit crowded in there.

656
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,479
Speaker 1: The Michigan Michigan State game was on, so I had

657
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: my phone. You pulled up the game on ESPN three

658
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: or whatever on your phone. So I went to my

659
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: to our van across the street, pulled out the chairs,

660
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: you know, like you go to your kids games, you

661
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: have the chairs in the back, the beach chairs pull out,

662
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: like three beach chairs. So the couple of my brother

663
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: in laws and stuff, we're sitting in these beachairs across

664
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 1: the street from the one year old party with the

665
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: phone out, and we're like, nobody even knows we're out here.

666
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people like we're good, nobody knows.

667
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: So it's the end of the Michigan Michigan State game

668
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: when the punter. So we're across the street and all

669
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you just were just like no. Then

670
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden. You see all the women I'm

671
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: walking out of the party. We looked. They were like,

672
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: oh no, this is oh no, what do you guys

673
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: talking about? Good looking? Mischievous? Yeah, yeah, we got caught.

674
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: But so this is uh interesting to see Michigan State, Michigan.

675
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: They're always entertaining games. LJ. Scott in that ground game

676
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: from Michigan State, can they get rolling against a really

677
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: impressive Michigan defense? Buck, what do you think? Oh, this

678
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: is tough. It's really a tough one because the robbery game. LJ.

679
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: Scott is a is a moster. I like the way

680
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: rons you're not picking Michigan State. I mean, I'm just

681
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: saying I like Sparty Go Green, Go White, like they

682
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: have nice chance, but you're not picking Michigan State. Are

683
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: you switching again? Are you gonna? Are you switching and

684
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: you're doing another I'm not. I'm not. I'm not because

685
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: the paper says Michigan right now on the list. We

686
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: would have to do air horn Wolf again. If you're

687
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: doing this thing, I'm not. I'm not switching. Alright, alright,

688
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: we all go to Michigan. I think it's at Michigan

689
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: they need to have a four and oh, number seven

690
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: of the country. They find a way to get it done.

691
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: All right, Stanford at Utah, this I think this might

692
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: be the most competitive game. It's gonna be the most

693
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: physical game of the week. To quest Stanford and Utah.

694
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: Stanfords three and two. They dropped this game, they'd be

695
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: three and three. U tak on the road, you talk quietly,

696
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: four and oh number twenty in the country. I like

697
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: what they've got with Tyler Hunley. They got a quarterback

698
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: to come run around, make some plays, got an experienced

699
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: quarterback coming back and they said, yeah, we go ahead

700
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: and the switch. So Buck, what are you thinking here?

701
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stand for him. Bryce Love, Oh that's just played,

702
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: says he has a thousand yards in a month. He's

703
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: a thousand yards. No one talks about him. He should

704
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: be like one of the front. What do you mean?

705
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: He's like an every Heisman list, every jam and Baker

706
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: and talk about and why Bucky's but here's this is

707
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: a ride in the coat tails at the house. Stay

708
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: with Buck. He's like Aaron Rodgers, Like it would be

709
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: like you would be like Aaron Rodgers. Somebody I disrespected.

710
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: Nobody respect No, everybody says you're great. Nobody's disrespecting. You're disrespected.

711
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: Nobody's disrespecting. All right, So you're going Stanford. I'm look,

712
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: I think U tak Kyle Whittingham at home. Stanford wins

713
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: on intimidation and physicality a lot of times. Yeah, Utah,

714
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: it will stare them right in the face. They have

715
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: no fear of that football team. I think Utah gets

716
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: it done at Sackle is tough place to play, no question.

717
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: Sully is with me on. That can't feel good about that.

718
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: Since A Kent is with you on, you must be

719
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: a winner on that one. All right, Okay, we'll split

720
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: on that. We'll see what happens. So I like, I

721
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: like you take at home this? All right? Hold up?

722
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: Do we do we know? Look? When I got hired

723
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: at NFL Media, I once I once uh interviewed for

724
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: a job, got it, did get off of the job.

725
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: So this spoiler alert costco And they sent me to

726
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: get a drug test. I went there at the lab. Yeah,

727
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: they send you to the lab when I've got a

728
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: job here in NFL Media, No such drug tests. They

729
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: just give you badge and and this is how you

730
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: get around. This is where you need to go. Here's

731
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: the here's the locker room, here's you get your makeup here. Yeah,

732
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,239
Speaker 1: so I didn't have a drug test. Now I am

733
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: convinced that Bucky, you did not have one either. No.

734
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: Is this next game Alabama at Texas A and M.

735
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: We've seen this before. We've seen this before. You are

736
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: picking Texas A and M. Absolutely? Alabama? Absolutely. I feel

737
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: good about it. I feel good about it. Feel good.

738
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: I feel good about it. How could you feel good?

739
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: Have you seen that defense? Yeah? The young quarterback is

740
00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: coming around. The quarterbacks about to be sib Kevin Sumlin.

741
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: Those guys look, he's fight, he's fighting for his life.

742
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: Down the circling the wagon. They're talking about Chad Morris

743
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: taking his job. I think this is the one. This

744
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: is the one where he puts the stamp. He puts

745
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: the stamp on it. I am going, Aggie, Aggie, Aggie,

746
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: give him hold on one second. I've got him, BUCkies.

747
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: I think this is coffee. But give him some. Bailey's

748
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 1: in there, gig him. He's got his he's got his man.

749
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: We're going, come on. We had we had Christine Kirk on.

750
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: I love Christian kirk and I feel him interview. You're

751
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: all on, Kristen Kirk, you want you want to tell

752
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: me that here's all right here here' I'm gonna give

753
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: you a tri of your question. What do me? And

754
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: let's see here, hold on? How can I go with?

755
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: What do me? Calvin Ridley? Um, let's see who else

756
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: do we have there? Make a Fitzpatrick? Let's stop there?

757
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: What what me? Calvin Ridley? And think if it's Patrick,

758
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: haven't coming. I don't know. All three of us are

759
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: gonna be watching the second half of this game. This

760
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be over over real quick. Two usrespect so

761
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: like they're not Vandy uh, vander Belt's defense might be

762
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: better than this one. Hold on, hold on, ul A

763
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: just scored again. It's a bad day. If not, if

764
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: not for the calass when they started doing the pimp stroll,

765
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: which they learned from it was it was just a

766
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,239
Speaker 1: pimp stroke when they brought out the staff and they

767
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: just kind of light pimped it along. But they're they're back.

768
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: There will be five and oh coming into this when

769
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: we have a different tune. I'm I'm on the four.

770
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just tell you this, hold up, executive decision.

771
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: Here can we get a vote. If I don't know

772
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: what what I got you? I got you, I got checked,

773
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: I got you? What what what I got? Check you?

774
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: Kent Sully, we wont the last four of us. There's

775
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: four of us, and we need it. Last week, last

776
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: week we all raised hands reminded me we need a

777
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: unanimous vote. With Kent Sully myself, I will say this,

778
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: if it's only a one point game, if A and

779
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: M wins, I say, we give Bucky three three point

780
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: ends up, We're gonna give you the three point bonus.

781
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: Just be like a ten point thing that I've I've

782
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: seen that you're right back in this point. It's the

783
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: three points for you. I've heard the voices diverse. The

784
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: voices have talked to me. So Bucky's Bucky's already starting

785
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: out the weekend. Oh one, we haven't spread and it

786
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: spreads about thirty. We can we can almost go against

787
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: the spread for an extra point. Do you remember the

788
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: spread was like that when Stanford whooped USC years ago

789
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: in the harbor years ago, you have to pull out

790
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: like a two thousand seven. I'm just saying, Stanford game,

791
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: it happens. Let me just let me just test your

792
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: knowledge to be the Pritcher ain't walking. Yeah, absolutely it happened.

793
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: Give you Johnny manzel And and Miles Garrett and they're

794
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: still not winning this gume roll the bet. Rest of

795
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: the picks here, what are the rest of the games.

796
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: We got the couple of games we've got to get

797
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: through here. We've got Maryland, Ohio State, Bucky. We've each

798
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: got Ohio State in that when LSU Florida. We've got

799
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: that one Westcon to Nebraska. Call me crazy at Nebraska.

800
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 1: I saw some crazy stat were like their last twenty

801
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: night games. Nebraska is undefeated. There's that. That's legit. It's

802
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: Tommy Fraser coming back. The Wisconsin is coming. Don't don't

803
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: over rate Wiscon. They always play close with Nebraska, and

804
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: then Washington, Washington State, Oregon. We both got the Koks.

805
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, Oregon doesn't have a quarter. I feel

806
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: a lot better about Nebraska Wisconsin. I do feel about

807
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: your A and m over Alabama pick keep your phone

808
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: on phone on Saturday on that game. That game is

809
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: gonna be fun. That is beautiful. All right, Hey, we

810
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: uh we just picked some college games. Remember you can

811
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: check the NFL Pick Him Show is Saturday, nine am Eastern.

812
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: We'll go through all the NFL games with all our

813
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: other podcast buddies, so you want to check that out,

814
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: um buck, We've got three days a week for move

815
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: the Sticks. Do that Sunday night or which if you

816
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: don't want to stay up Sunday night, no problem. When

817
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: you wake up Monday morning, it's waiting for you. It's

818
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: right there, right there, the Tuesday Thursday shows. If you're

819
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,360
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821
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: You can watch the silliness where I'm trying to smell

822
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: the drink that Bucky has to the side here a

823
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: hot chocolate uh, and then uh, lets see what else

824
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: we got going on here, Buck, I think that's I

825
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: think we're pretty much done. We're done, donezo gig um,

826
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: no chance, absolutely chance. This has been moved. The six

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Speaker 1: presented by the Ford f Series. Thanks again for tuning in,

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Speaker 1: and please please do me a favor and tune in

829
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: to the next podcast because we're gonna have a lot

830
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: of fun after that Alabama thrashing of A and M.

831
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for us. I'm Daniel Jeremiah and

832
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: he apparently is sober. He is Bucky Brooks, See you

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