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Speaker 1: severe legal disabilities, special taxes, occasion expulsion, and outbursts of

425
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 1: popular fury. Although much on the minds of other people's,

426
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 1: Jews were left for them to themselves. For long periods.

427
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: Their only connection to the larger societies in which they

428
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 1: lived was in the economic sphere, where a few amassed

429
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: legendary fortunes while the great majority pursued marginal, obnoxious occupations

430
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: such as money lending, peddling, rent collecting, and tavern keeping.

431
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: There was segregation against Jewish people in a lot of hear.

432
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: You couldn't do certain jobs. You weren't allowed in public,

433
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 1: you couldn't join the army, you couldn't do all of

434
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: the things that Christians could do. One of the few

435
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 1: things Jewish people were allowed to do was lend money,

436
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 1: which is where like this, the idea of the Jewish

437
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: banker comes from us that and this is the same

438
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: thing when in Islamic society you're not allowed to charge

439
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: interest if you're like an Islamic banker. So in both

440
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: Christian Christendom and and the Muslim world. A lot of

441
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: banking is done by Jewish people because that's all they're

442
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: allowed to do. Like, you haven't given us any other option.

443
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: What the funk else are we supposed to do? You know,

444
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 1: you took away every other job here we are, and

445
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: then you made fun of us for it and built

446
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: a big old conspiracy experience. Yeah, you can't win with

447
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 1: you know, racism um tale as old as time. Um.

448
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 1: So as the modern world came into building being and

449
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 1: secularism went vogue among intellectuals, some of the prescriptions against

450
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: Jewish people started. The fake Christianity stop stops being like

451
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 1: dominant in government, And a lot of reasonable people are like, well,

452
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: why are we restricting Jewish people If we're not we

453
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: don't govern based on Christianity. We shouldn't oppress these people

454
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: just for being Jewish. And so campaigns for emancipation started

455
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: to pick up in the seventeen and eighteen hundreds, and

456
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: these are these are campaigns by Jewish people and their

457
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: allies for equal rights under the law. A lot of

458
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,239
Speaker 1: this was driven by the French Revolution because in the

459
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Speaker 1: French Revolution, after the king was overthrown. Jewish people gained

460
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: on paper at least equal rights. It didn't really work

461
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 1: out that way, as it never does with emancipation campaigns,

462
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 1: but things got a lot better for them. And this

463
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: is part of why guys like Edwin Edmund Burke were

464
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: so certain that Jews were behind the whole thing. Right,

465
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: there's a revolution, a lot of prescription and and and

466
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 1: laws against Jewish people doing stuff are repealed. Of course

467
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: it must have been them that orchestrated it, because they benefited. Right,

468
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: It's a key aspect of conspiracism. You see a group

469
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: that benefits, you assume they caused the thing. Um, it's

470
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: the way human brains work, I guess. In seventeen eighty nine,

471
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Speaker 1: when the National Assembly of France approved the Declaration of

472
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: Rights of Man and Citizen, one prominent French representative called

473
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Speaker 1: upon his fellow citizens to acknowledge Jews as free French citizens.

474
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: He argued that they were do everything any other citizen

475
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Speaker 1: was doe, which sounds great, but then he went on

476
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: to say this Jews should be given everything as individuals

477
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 1: and nothing as a nation. Basically, I like a few

478
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: of these guys, Yeah, I just don't like him as

479
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: a group. Yeah, exactly, I'm fine with Jewish people as

480
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,959
Speaker 1: individuals were all humans. Their religion is bad and they

481
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Speaker 1: need to give it up to integrate into society. That's

482
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Speaker 1: what he's saying, right, Like, you, as long as you assimilate,

483
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 1: then you get equal rights. If you continue to be Jewish,

484
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Speaker 1: then I'm not cool with you. And this was very

485
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: common among like I guess what you'd call the woke

486
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: left at the time, that like, we shouldn't restrict Jewish

487
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 1: people from doing anything, but they should stop being Jewish.

488
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: You know, that's a common idea. Just come on, we

489
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: like us, we love you if you do everything we

490
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: do and never argue with us again. A story that

491
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: has never been repeated in history. So a major move

492
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: towards the mass emancipation of your European Jews came courtesy

493
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: of a guy you might not suspect, Napoleon Bonaparte. He's

494
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: actually a huge figure in Jewish emancipation in the early

495
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: days of his empire. He was. One of the things

496
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 1: that made him noteworthy is he welcomed Jewish men into

497
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 1: his army as soldiers, which was not done in a

498
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,719
Speaker 1: lot of Europe. He was like because and this. He

499
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: wasn't doing this because he was particularly woke or a

500
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: good person. He was doing this because, like you're a

501
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: body's a body people to die for me. You guys

502
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: die just as do Jewish people respond the same to

503
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: getting shot as white. Bring it in, you Jewish dude,

504
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 1: stand in front of me, Stand in front of me.

505
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: I've got a good feeling about you. I don't care

506
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: what you believe as long as you hold a gun

507
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: for me. You know. That's that's Napoleon's attitude. Um And again,

508
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: he's not doing this because he's a nice man. But

509
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: it has really a positive impact on a lot of

510
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: Jewish communities in Europe because Napoleon conquers fucking everything. When

511
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 1: his armies conquered the city of Padua in Italy, they

512
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: knocked down the walls of that city's ghetto, basically to

513
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: say that like this, your restrictions, like you, your your

514
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: life a second class citizens is over. We're destroying the

515
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: wall that separates you from the wet rest of society,

516
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: which is a huge moment for Italian Jews, right like

517
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: Italian Jewish people who had been oppressed for centuries see

518
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: French Jews carrying guns, giving orders and liberating them from bondage.

519
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: It's a big fucking moment, and a Messianic fervor begins

520
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: to sweep through Europe, which is this idea. You know,

521
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: Jewish people are still waiting for the Messiah, right like

522
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: that's this He's He's going to come, He's going to come.

523
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: A lot of them become convinced in this period that

524
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: Napoleon's coming was a sign that the Messiah is about

525
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: to come. Napoleon was sent by God to liberate us

526
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: and our our time of our time of struggle and

527
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: trial is almost over. Boy, they you're a little off

528
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 1: on that one, little bit off on that one. This

529
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: only feels like when Suge Knight went to the source

530
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: rewards and told everybody to come to death row. You

531
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,479
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's yeah, he's offering an alternative option,

532
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: but it's not gonna be good for anybody. You know,

533
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of Italian Jewish historians compare

534
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: Suge Knight to the It's it's an extremely common uh.

535
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: Like Sugar Knight, Napoleon was shot twice at the VMA.

536
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: Like Knight, Napoleon ran a dude over with this car

537
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: and then back over the guy again. Glad he did. Comparison,

538
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: you know who else is a lot like Suge Knight.

539
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: We're supported by suge Knight this podcast. Right, he backs us,

540
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: it doesn't he backs us, He goes forward, he backs

541
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: us again, and we're back. Uh, we're back, and we're

542
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: just appreciating Night and Napoleon too, two dudes just racking

543
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: up the WS at this point, both of them have

544
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: a fall from grace, right, Napoleon and Shug both end

545
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: up in prison. I stand behind my comparison. I think

546
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: it is a good one. They both did really well

547
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: and then not well at all immediately after. If you

548
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: could bridge the language gap between them, I actually do

549
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: think they would probably have gotten all. All empire builders

550
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: are the same kind of do you know? Uh so yeah.

551
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: Jewish people, as a result of Napoleon's kind of liberate,

552
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: liberatory rhetoric and the fact that like he really does

553
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: improve things for Jewish people in his empire, start to

554
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: feel like the Messianic period is here, We're about to

555
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: be freed. And for a few years you can see

556
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: why they felt that way. Between eighteen o eight and

557
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: eighteen fifteen, Napoleon's conquest of warsaw led to a mass

558
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: liberation of Polish shoes, who overnight received full civil rights

559
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: for the first time in their history. There were even

560
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: whispers during the Egyptian campaign that Napoleon meant to reconquer

561
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: the Holy Land for diaspora Jews and rebuild the Temple

562
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: in Jerusalem. The Napoleon went meant nothing of the sort.

563
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: He was never going to get. Napoleon give land to people.

564
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: You have misunderstood Napoleon, sir, But he recognized the propaganda

565
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: value in what he was doing, especially since the Jewish

566
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: community all throughout Europe, in the countries he's going to

567
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: war with, if I can get these people on my side,

568
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,479
Speaker 1: if I can get them to think I'm going to

569
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: liberate them, maybe they will back me when I fight

570
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: their governments. You know, it's this, it's this, This is

571
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: it's a smart thing to do if you're a guy

572
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 1: like Napoleon. It's the thing the British Empire does all

573
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: throughout theory as they control. As you find these different groups,

574
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: these like marginalized groups in the countries that you're trying

575
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: to conquer, and you support them against the people they have,

576
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: you know, an issue with and that that's a good

577
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: that's if you're a conqueror coming in, it's a smart

578
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: thing to do. Well. It's the sad part is governments

579
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: are never nice to everyone, and so subsequently some dude

580
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: coming in looking to take over is gonna find some

581
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: folks that are pretty unhappy with the way things have

582
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: been going this entire time. Yes, exactly. So. Napoleon in

583
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: reality was number one, pretty racist against Jewish people. He

584
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: was just better than the king had been. Um, and

585
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: he didn't he didn't. He was like these guys we

586
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: were talking about, these early French revolutionaries. He he thought

587
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: Jewish people had equal rights. He didn't think they had

588
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: the right to be Jewish. Um. He wanted them to

589
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: join secular French culture. He actually called a meeting of

590
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: this like Jewish religious congress, the san Hedrin, that hadn't

591
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: met in centuries. And they think that he's calling the

592
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: meeting to be like, you know, it's time, you know,

593
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: the Messianic periods here, like I'm going to liberate like

594
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: your homeland for you and take you back. That's what

595
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: they think is happening. Napoleon is basically going to force

596
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: all these Jewish representatives to vote that their loyal frenchmen

597
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: who will fight for him. You know, that's what he

598
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: wants to do, is he wants to get he wants

599
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: to like he's running a show, vote to like get

600
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: all of these people on his side. Uh. And his

601
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: in reality, a lot of what he did for Jewish

602
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: people was really shitty. One of the things he did

603
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 1: was he canceled all debts owed by Christians to Jews.

604
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: And he didn't only do that, but he legally punished

605
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: all Jewish people in the French Empire by burdening them

606
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: with a communal debt to Christians that they had to repay. Basically,

607
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: it's wrong that you were doing the only job we

608
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: let you do and you owe all Christians money in

609
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: order to pay back, like the like the loans and

610
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: stuff that you like. It's really it's it's bad. He's

611
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: he's he's I mean, he's so he canceled Christian debt

612
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: and then put that debt on Jewish people. Yeah, basically, yes,

613
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: he's he's he I mean, he's Napoleon. He wasn't a

614
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,959
Speaker 1: good guy, you know. Um. And what was more fucked up?

615
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: The really the most toxic aspect of this because even

616
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: with that and even with that taken into account, life

617
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: got a lot better for Jewish people under Napoleon. Um.

618
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: What was most fucked up about what Napoleon did was

619
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: the way that his enemies reacted to his supposed pro

620
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: Jewish leanings. See Napoleon went to war with basically everybody.

621
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: The rulers of Europe knew that all of these Jewish

622
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: communities in their countries were talking about how the Messiah

623
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: was nigh and Napoleon had been sent to free them,

624
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: and they responded with a propaganda blitz that tried tied

625
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: the dreaded Napoleon to the untrustworthy Jews trying to tear

626
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: down the old order of Europe for their own nefarious ends.

627
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: One of these propagandists was Abbe Borrowell, who did initially

628
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: blame the French Revolution on Freemasons, but in eighteen oh

629
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: six he started circulating a forged letter, probably sent to

630
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: him by members of the state police, who resented Napoleon's

631
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: liberal attitude towards the Jews. The Jewish Virtual Library writes

632
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: that this letter quote called attention to the alleged part

633
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: of the Jews and the conspiracy that he had earlier

634
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: attributed to the Mason's. This myth than international Jewish conspiracy

635
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: reappeared later on in nineteenth century Europe in places such

636
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: as Germany and Poland. So this is where this this

637
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: is where this myth starts. Right, is this guy who

638
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 1: had first blamed the revolution on the Freemasons. He sees

639
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 1: Napoleon doing some nice stuff for Jewish people. He loops

640
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: the minute that conspiracy the Jews and the Freemason's overthrew

641
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: the king of France, and now they're trying to destroy

642
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: the order in Europe. That's how this evolves. Now, the

643
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: group in Europe who most dove into this new conspiracy theory,

644
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: where the Czars of Russia their empire had a massive

645
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: downtrodden Jewish population. Um. There there had been massive genocides

646
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: and both Poland and Russia against the Jews for for

647
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: centuries at this point, including one the Calumnisty massacre in

648
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: eastern Poland that killed like three quarters of a million people. Um,

649
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: just like really really bad stuff. So obviously the Czars

650
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: have reason to be worried that these people aren't loyal

651
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: because they've been killing them. Yeah, you think I remember

652
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: what we did, right, And they're worried because Napoleon's coming

653
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: for them where they think it. I mean he did eventually,

654
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: but they think at the time he's coming for them. Right.

655
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: He's been beating his way through the Germans, which were

656
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: kind of our bulwark against France, and he's going to

657
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: be in our territory soon enough. In eighteen oh six,

658
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: they launched an unprecedented propaganda blitz that would somewhat inadvertently

659
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: create the basic ideas of modern anti Semitism. The whole

660
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: effort represented a massive propaganda reversal for Russia, who needed

661
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: both to justify an alliance with their ancestral enemies Prussia,

662
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 1: and also introduced a new enemy, the alien evil lurking

663
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: within preparing to tear the kind tread down. The culmination

664
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 1: of this work was a mass produced propaganda pamphlet called

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00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: The Appeal. And I'm going to quote now from an

666
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: essay written by Johanna Petrovsky stern quote. The document climaxes

667
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: with the entry of the Jews and the expansion of

668
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: the Jewish theme. Outwitted by a cutting Napoleon and disappointed

669
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: by only partial emancipation, the gullibal Jews of Napoleonic France

670
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: are portrayed as perfidious accomplices of France and true friends

671
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: of Bonaparte, a Satan who insolently revolted against the Holy

672
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: of Holies, the embodiment of absolute evil. Napoleon Bonaparte convened

673
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: the Jewish synagogues in France, demanding and insulting public homage

674
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 1: to the rabbis. He established a new Jewish Sanhedrin, which

675
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: the Russian document saw as the same godless institution which

676
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: in its time conspicuously contemned our condemned our Lord and

677
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: the Savior Jesus Christ to the cross. Napoleon maintained. The

678
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: appeal attended intended to unify the Jews, whom divine rage

679
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: dispersed throughout the land, and most importantly, to proclaim Napoleon

680
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: a false Messiah. And the Jews, those alleged haters of Christ,

681
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: were more than eager to assist Napoleon in his infamy.

682
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: So the real focus of this propaganda is still on Napoleon,

683
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: but it's trying. This is like the first real document

684
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: that throws all of this together, all this stuff that

685
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: becomes modern anti Semitism. It's it's so strange that they're

686
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: both Uh, he's both calling them idiots and like these

687
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: sort of like powerful figures in this whole thing. He's like, yeah,

688
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 1: they're big dumb idiots, but we watch out for him

689
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: because they're super dangerous. I mean, it's this thing. It's

690
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: particular in anti Semitism, but you see it always in conspiracies.

691
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: The enemy is simultaneously all powerful and incompetent. You know,

692
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: like it's dumb enough that like you're able to like

693
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: he doesn't like they can't stop us, they can't stop

694
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: us from what we're doing, but also like they control everything.

695
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: It's the thing you see. You know, I keep going

696
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: back to Alex Jones, but he's a good modern example. Um,

697
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: it's it's the thing with like Q and on where

698
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: the conspiracy is is worldwide. But also everyone has ten

699
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: steps behind Donald Trump, the perfect genius. You know, Joe

700
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: Biden can't read, but he also is somehow running this

701
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: cabal andy and taking down their great savior. Yeah, it's

702
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: it's it never makes much sense, is the point. The

703
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: Tsars wrote this appeal um, but it didn't stay like

704
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: the official propaganda line for long because right after it

705
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: gets published, Napoleon signs a peace treaty with Russia. The

706
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 1: Czar's backpedal and they issue like a new pro France

707
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: propaganda campaign to try to get everyone on board with

708
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: the fact that now we're friendly with France. And obviously

709
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: this this doesn't last. They eventually go to war. But

710
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: the government abandons this anti Semitic line of attack almost

711
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: as soon as they began it. But the appeal made

712
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: a terrible impact during its brief period of circulation. Russia

713
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: had always been a land of pagrams, and distrust of

714
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: Jewish communities ran deep. The appeal had provided a justification

715
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: for violence and confiscation of Jewish property. It was an

716
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: act of self defense against an embedded alien in and

717
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 1: so the appeal gives all these people who had always

718
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: been violent to Jews a justification for why they're defending

719
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: themselves by carrying out these proms. Independent newspapers started printing

720
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: their own follow ups to the appeal, imitating its key motif,

721
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 1: the idea of a vast Jewish conspiracy against the Russian people.

722
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: For the first quarter of the nineteenth century, Russian literature

723
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: increasingly depicted Jews differently from European literature. Russian literary scholar

724
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: Mikael Weisskopf writes, already in the eighteen twenties it becomes

725
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: visible in Russian prose and the idea of a secret

726
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: Jewish government which, together with other evil powers, is participating

727
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: in a plot against all humanity. It's almost like the

728
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 1: appeal is a virus, right, and once it gets out,

729
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: it starts to spread throughout Russia, throughout like the Russian

730
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: intellectual community, and it becomes by the eighteen twenties, it's

731
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: all throughout their fiction, it's all throughout their literature, this

732
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: idea of a vast Jewish conspiracy. It's broken containment, you know,

733
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: it's not in control of the czars anymore. Um, and

734
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: it it doesn't stay trapped in Russia. We see variants

735
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: arising throughout the rest of Europe in the mid eighteen twenties.

736
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: A good example of of of kind of one variant

737
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: of this that's it's different from what's happening in Russia,

738
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: but it has similar roots. Is the kind of anti

739
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: Semitism that you saw expressed by Karl Marx. Despite having

740
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: Jewish ancestry himself, Marx's early career involved some pretty rough claims.

741
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: This is his early career but there's some bad stuff

742
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: in here. In eighteen forty three, he blamed the existence

743
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: of modern capitalism on the Judaism, of Judaizing the Jews,

744
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: you know, on Christian society being made more Jewish. Carl,

745
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: I know, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, you always a reference.

746
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: That's a good guy. Why Carl. He was right about

747
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: a lot not um. He was wrong about stuff too,

748
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 1: He wrote a lot. You know, we were all rooting

749
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: for you, Carl. That's yeah, It's it's so common though.

750
00:40:58,680 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: It's the same thing if you look at like a

751
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: out of the founding intellectual minds of modern anarchism, guys

752
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: like Kropotkin and and prude Han super anti Semitic, really

753
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: really racist, like because just because everyone it was very

754
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: like all of Christendom was really bigoted against Jewish people.

755
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: Was extremely common. It seems like it's like the one

756
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: thing that can kind of bring everybody together at this

757
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: point is just like, well, we all hate Jews, right,

758
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: That's why the Nazis picket. You know, you find the

759
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: common enemy, and you rarely everyone around them, even though

760
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: the enemy is actually has no power and isn't responsible

761
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: for problems. It's just it's what works um. And again

762
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: with Marx, we see because kind of this Russian propaganda

763
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: hasn't reached to England yet. Where he's writing, Marx is

764
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: more in kind of line with these those old French revolutionaries.

765
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: He doesn't hate Jewish people, he doesn't like the Jewish religion, right.

766
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: He thinks that in his ideal society, Jewish people will

767
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: emancipate themselves by giving up Judaism, right. Um. And he's

768
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: not a fan of like Christianity in particular either, but

769
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: he believes that Jewish people are like they're they're they're

770
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: Religiou and his capitalists, so they have to give it

771
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: up in order to like become part of the rest

772
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: of the world. In eighty four, Marx wrote an essay

773
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: with the deeply Unfortunate title on the Jewish Question. He's

774
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: not the only one using this phrase, like, that's why

775
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: Hitler uses it, right, it is called that by a

776
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: lot of people. And the Jewish question is what do

777
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: we do with Jewish people? And of course the answer

778
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: is never listened to. Let him, just let him do

779
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: their thing, Just let's bite them over and have a

780
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: nice brunch. I don't know, maybe stop being shitty to him,

781
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: but no, that's never the answer. Uh. In this pamphlet

782
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: he described the Jewish religion as huckstering and the Jewish

783
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: God as money. He had concluded that, in the final analysis,

784
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: the emancipation of the Jews is the emancipation of mankind

785
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: from Judaism. And again this sounds extermination. Is he's not

786
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: saying that, He's saying the emancive mankind will be emancipated

787
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: when they give up their religion. Right, we want the people,

788
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: we don't want their faith, which isn't good. But it's

789
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: different from like the Nazi arguments that you're going to

790
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: year later. This is kind of the standard liberal line

791
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: at this point in time in history. And yeah, it's

792
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: interesting you'll see people declare Marks anti semitic over this,

793
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: and Marx was again had Jewish ancestry. But one of

794
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 1: the people who will disagree with the claim that Mark

795
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: santy semitic is Jonathan Sachs, chief Rabbi of the United Kingdom.

796
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: And Sax's argument is simple. The word anti Semitism didn't

797
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: exist when Marx wrote his essay, and the bigotry he

798
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: expressed in that essay was against a religion. It did

799
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: not have a racial component, and he did not believe

800
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: in a conspiracy of Jewish people. Marx was bigoted against

801
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: the Jewish faith, but he didn't see there being He

802
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: didn't think Jewish people were inherently involved in a plot.

803
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: The building strains of Russian anti Semitism hadn't crossed over

804
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: into the West yet, and so the utterly commonplace bigotry

805
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: against Judaism that Marx expressed hadn't been cross pollinated with

806
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: conspiracism yet. That process wouldn't really get underway until the

807
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: late eighteen hundreds. The actual word anti Semitism was popularized

808
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: by a German journalist named Bill hell Mar in eighteen

809
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: seventy nine. Now mar was an anti semit He's the

810
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: guy who came up with the word. You know, like

811
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: you're high on the list. He wasn't pointing it out

812
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: in someone else. It was like, no, this is what

813
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: I am. We would have a word for the shitty

814
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: stuff I think there as awesome as me. You need

815
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: a title, You need a title. So Mark coined the

816
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: term in an unhinged screed he wrote titled the Victory

817
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: of Jewelry over Germandom. That was about what you'd expect.

818
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: It to be about and has some real Nazi strains

819
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: in it. You know, you can draw an electric line

820
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: from Mar to the death camps. Uh. And one of

821
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: the things that's interesting about mars bigotry and about the

822
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: idea of anti Semitism that he crafts, is that his

823
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: hatred of Jewish people was not based in Christianity because

824
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 1: he was secular, right, He didn't. He didn't hate Jewish

825
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: people because he thought they were responsible for killing Jesus.

826
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: He rejected myths about the ritual murder of Christian babies

827
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: by rabbis. Instead, according to an article in The Conversation,

828
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: quote he do on the fashionable theories of the French

829
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 1: academic Ernst Rennen, who viewed history as a world shaping

830
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: contest between Jewish Semites and Aryan Indo Europeans. Mar suggested

831
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 1: that the Jewish threat to Germany was racial. He said

832
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 1: that it was born of their immutable and destructive nature,

833
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 1: their tribal peculiarities and alien essence. Yeah, he was like, listen,

834
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: I'm not falling for any of that previous propaganda. I

835
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: know they're not suckling at pigs. I know they're not.

836
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: Their religion is fine. I don't like them at their core,

837
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: their essence is what's broken in them. You don't understand.

838
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: Let me tell you where the other racists fall short.

839
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 1: You guys are so focused on the book. Forget the book.

840
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: It's in their it's in their spirits, it's in their blood. Yeah,

841
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: you know that. Like he He really is a terrible

842
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 1: man um And one of the things that's so dangerous

843
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: about guys like Mark, guys like Ranan, is that their

844
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: bigotry isn't based in like provincial, like religious stuff. They're

845
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: not like bunch of old hillbillies who are superstitious against

846
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: the Jews. Their intellectuals, their secular and their hatred of

847
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: Jewish people. Their anti semitism is gets is intellectually respectable.

848
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: They get articles published in journals, scholars have to debate

849
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 1: their racism. And that's a big step forward. This isn't

850
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 1: you know, Because the world secularizing, we're leaving the old

851
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: bigotries in the past. And Mark finds a way to

852
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: be like, we don't have to leave this in the past.

853
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: I've modernized it. Yeah, this iPhone got an update, and

854
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: this iPhone got an update. Yeah, no planned obsolescence for racism.

855
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: Now One thing we've seen throughout the last couple of

856
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: decades of history that we've been covering today is that

857
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: all of the stages of this growth and anti Jewish

858
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: sentiment where a reaction to emancipation right, which again we

859
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: see this throughout history. This oppressed, marginalized group starts to

860
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: get equal rights. They don't even get them. They start

861
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: to get them, they start to agitate for them, and

862
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: people who are oppressing them freak the funk out that

863
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: this is a plot against the oppressors. In Russia's case,

864
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: it was a panic that Jewish communities might back Napoleon

865
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: in a coming war. Marx's essay on the Jewish Question

866
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: was a reaction to the growing emancipation movements across Europe.

867
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 1: Raanan and mar were both trying to stop Jewish integration

868
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: into Christian civilization. This happened throughout the Christian world. As

869
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: Richard Levy writes, quote, only after Jews had begun to

870
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: emerge from their isolation did anti Semitism begin to surface

871
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: in Europe. Instead of episodic repression and violence followed by

872
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: decades of calm, anti Semites endeavored to make persecution of

873
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 1: the Jews permanent, convinced that Jews had already gathered enormous power,

874
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: and that, as one pamphlet of the time put it,

875
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: the victory of Jewry was imminent. Anti Semites determined that

876
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: constant struggle against the enemy was an absolute necessity for

877
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:50,280
Speaker 1: the survival of Christian civilization. They founded political parties, voluntary associations, newspapers,

878
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: and periodicals to this end. In the last quarter of

879
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: the nineteenth century, the word anti Semitism expressed a new

880
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: way of dealing with the problem of the Jews. So

881
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: when the old days, in the medieval period, right when

882
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: Christianity dominates everything, it's enough to just be racist against

883
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: the Jews. It's enough to just be bigger, it's enough

884
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: to just to share myths about them eating babies. When

885
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: the world modernizes and Jewish people start to integrate with society,

886
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: that's where bigotry isn't enough, because biggotry isn't modern. What

887
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: you need is a theory that there's a war. We're

888
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: engaged in a battle with the Jews. They're trying to

889
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: take over our society. These these campaigns for equal rights.

890
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: They're fighting to oppress us. And that's that's modern, you know,

891
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: like you can. You can have that in a scientific

892
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: industrial society. They're managing the hate just fine. We have

893
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: to create some sort of like hidden extra layer to

894
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: this bad boy, exactly exactly. And while Marx is proof

895
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: that there was a lot of anti Jewish bigotry on

896
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 1: the left, the vast majority of the growing anti Semitic

897
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: movement was conservative in nature. This was due in part

898
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: to the fact that as Jews gained political rights, most

899
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: of them wound up as liberals or social lists, because

900
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: those were the movements most effectively fighting for the emancipation

901
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: of all people. You know, like a lot of a

902
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: lot of Jewish political activists in this period, because they're oppressed,

903
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: understand the oppression of other groups and fight to liberate them,

904
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: and fight not just like racial groups, like liberate the

905
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: poor and stuff um. And the reactionary right sees this

906
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: and they fold anti Semitism into their propaganda against socialists.

907
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: And this brings us once again to Czarist Russia. The

908
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: late eighteen hundreds were also a period of increasing left

909
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: wing resistance to the Czarist dictatorship. The People's Will a

910
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 1: left wing political organization we might call accelerationist terrorists, although

911
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: I think they were rad embarked on a campaign of

912
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: direct violence aimed at destroying the Czarist regime. This culminated

913
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: with their successful assassination by bomb of Czar Alexander the

914
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: Second in eighteen eighty one. They just blew him up.

915
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: They threw a bomb at his carriage and exploded him. No,

916
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: he had guys with them. They sunk up a lot

917
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: of people like it's it's a big old thing, you know.

918
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: And there were there had been a do you know

919
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: who else would be very into that? You know who

920
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 1: else would assassinate the Czar of Russia? Our sponsor Raytheon? Yeah,

921
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 1: I mean yes they would, so, yes they would. Yeah.

922
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 1: If there's one sponsor of ours that's good at assassinating zars,

923
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: it's Ray You could really draw directly. The people's will

924
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: is just a precursor of Raytheon. They couldn't shoot knife

925
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: out of the sky from drones, so a guy had

926
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: to throw a big, comical spherical bomb carriage. But it's

927
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: in Raytheon's d n a. That's why their motto is Raytheon,

928
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: fuck the Czar. Here's products all right. So a bunch

929
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: of Russian revolutionaries in this period, a lot of the

930
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: people who were trying to overthrow the czar were Jewish

931
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: men and women. And this was both because a lot

932
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: of Jewish people were heavily represented in socialist movements at

933
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: this period and also because the Tsars had massacred Jewish

934
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: people for centuries. You know, it makes sense again, I'm

935
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: I'm thoroughly on the pro murdering the czar side of things.

936
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: In case people are curious, they are terrorists. This is terrorism.

937
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: They're just justified. You know, if you live under Azar,

938
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: it's fine. I'm down with it. There their their chair

939
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: backwards to to you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly exactly.

940
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: So the waves of anarchists and socialist terrorist text and

941
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: a lot of these terrorists in this period and Russia

942
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: are anarchists, right. This is idea from a coun and

943
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: of propaganda of the deed. The best propaganda is like

944
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: killing the fucking cs are like, we don't want a czar.

945
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: What is the best way we can tell people we

946
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: don't want the czar? What if we kill him? Um?

947
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: And I think the people's will was kind of more

948
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know, I'm not an expert on this.

949
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't know if it would be

950
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: right to call him anarchists, definitely left wing and socialist

951
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: e um. But they killed Thizar, and this freaks the

952
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: funk out of the government. Right, So there's, as you

953
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 1: would expect, in the wake of the head of state

954
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: being killed, this massive wave of repression, of repression not

955
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: just against the actual group that had killed Thizar, but

956
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: against anyone doing socialist organizing in Russia. And there is

957
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 1: this kind of unhinged panic among Russian conservatives that there's

958
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: a that there's a conspiracy not just to kill Bisarre,

959
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: but to overthrow the government, which there is. But they

960
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: convinced themselves not that this is happening, because we're terrible

961
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: at ruling Russia and we've oppressed people horrifically, and they

962
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,479
Speaker 1: have good reason to want to overthrow the government. They're

963
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: convinced it's the Jews, right, because this propaganda started circulating

964
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: in eighteen o six, Right, this has been going on

965
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: for a while, this idea that there's a conspiracy to

966
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 1: destroy our government and it's the Jews behind it. Now,

967
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: for some context, this is a bloody period in Russian history,

968
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: not compared to modern Russian history, but compared to I

969
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: don't know. Most places, about seventeen thousand people are killed

970
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: or wounded in terrorist attacks and less twenty years of

971
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: the Russian Empire, there is a lot of violence. Yeah, um,

972
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: like some bad ship going on. Uh. And it was

973
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: a time of tremendous upheaval and rapid change. Zar Alexander

974
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: the Second, before his death, had freed the serfs, right,

975
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: So like Russia is industrializing rapidly, they d served them.

976
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: There's a lot of political changes. There's also all this

977
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: terrorism and violence. There's these military defeats and crimea and

978
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: again against Japan. And as we discussed at the top

979
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 1: of the episode, when things are changing rapidly, when people,

980
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: particularly conservatives, feel like they don't have any solid ground

981
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: beneath their feet, that's the kind of situation in which

982
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: conspiracism really breeds most effectively, because you need something to

983
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: explain it. You don't want to think that like, well,

984
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: all of these economic and social forces have come together

985
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: to cause rapid change and unrest, and we need to

986
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: adapt to it. No, no, no, there's an evil cobal

987
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: responsible for everything I don't understand, and if we can

988
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: kill them, we'll solve all of our problems. It's it's

989
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: hard to believe that the world just played out the

990
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: way that it played out and you got fucked, So

991
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: it's easier to like blame a specific party for you

992
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: getting fucked. Yeah, yeah, And it's it's a story as

993
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: at least a couple of hundred years old. And this

994
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: brings me finally to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

995
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: We had a long prologue this episode. So most people

996
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: who write about the protocols, and we'll talk about exactly

997
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: what they say in a little bit. Most people who

998
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 1: write about them will authoritatively state that they were created

999
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: initially by the Acrona, which was the Czarist secret police.

1000
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: This the Acrona are like the precursor to the Gestapo

1001
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: and the KGB, even like the FBI and the CIA.

1002
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: You could argue they're one of the very first like

1003
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 1: secret services, and their whole job is to keep the

1004
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: Czarre in power. Right, They infiltrate We're supposed to infiltrate

1005
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: left wing movements. We're supposed to stop assassination attempts, were

1006
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: supposed to stop people from changing the order. So I

1007
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: will say everyone says any article you read is gonna

1008
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: say like the Acrona created the Protocols of the Elders

1009
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: of Zion. They probably did, but there's zero conclusive evidence

1010
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 1: that they did. History Rians who know this ship heavily

1011
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: debate the origin of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

1012
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: We do not have a comprehensive, utterly proven example for

1013
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: like why they were made in the first place. Right,

1014
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: there's a chain of custody you can tell kind of

1015
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: like how they evolved over time. We don't know at

1016
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: whose order they were crafted or if they were anyone,

1017
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: So that's just not that's not clear. I'll attached an

1018
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: article by a great historian who kind of breaks down why.

1019
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: Because there's a famous comic book about the Protocols of

1020
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 1: the Elders of Zion by a great Jewish m Stanley Siegel.

1021
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: I think it was um, a great Jewish comic book artist,

1022
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: and it's a good comic. It gets a lot of

1023
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: historical details about the people who we know were involved

1024
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: in the creation of the protocols. Wrong, because there's a

1025
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: lot of myths about them. Again, the protocols are a

1026
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theories arise to explain how they came

1027
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: into being. There's a lot of disinformation out there that said,

1028
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: broadly speaking, the Acrona are the most likely culprit for

1029
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: the creation of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

1030
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: If they didn't make it or order its creation, they

1031
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: certainly had a major hand in its early distribution. But

1032
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: before we talk about how the protocol spread, I should

1033
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: explain precisely what they are. In short, the Protocols of

1034
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: the Elders of Zion are a fake document that purports

1035
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 1: to be the minutes of a meeting of the global

1036
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: Jewish conspiracy to destroy Christianity. It's yeah, right, Like it's like,

1037
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: we had this meeting to talk about our evil world

1038
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: dominations games, and we wrote it down case like you

1039
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: might not have been able to make the meeting. We

1040
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: gotta get you know, right back the minutes for me

1041
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: real quick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, with the minutes of our

1042
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: plan to destroy civilization. Yes, very funny that you would

1043
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: think it works that way, Um, but yeah, that's that's

1044
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: kind of how this is framed, I am. And it's

1045
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: kind of the document has written not just as minutes,

1046
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: but it's like kind of, oh, you missed the meeting,

1047
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: but you're a part of this organization. This will get

1048
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: you up to speed on our plan destroy Christianity. You know,

1049
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: like it's so like you were on vacation the week

1050
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: we had the Global Conspiracy Conference. Take a look at this, Yeah, exactly.

1051
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: Anybody who missed the reading, it's all available here. Yeah,

1052
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 1: you fell asleep during the meeting, We get it. It

1053
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Speaker 1: goes on a while. Here's the minute. It will be

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00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: good enough for a book report, but you'll at least

1055
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: be caught up. You you can find the quote separately,

1056
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: but everything else is in there. It's very funny. Um,

1057
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: it's not funny. Millions die, um, but it's it's it's

1058
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: it's it's patently ridiculous, right any reasonable person. Of course,

1059
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 1: if there's a grand world conspiracy, they don't just have

1060
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: a document that says, here's what we're doing. But this

1061
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: is a lot we talk about in our Bill Cooper episode,

1062
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: A bunch of Bill Cooper's conspiracy theories were based on

1063
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: leaked military documents talking about their plans to destroy the world,

1064
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: Like as if that would get written down. Um, anyway,

1065
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: I'm not going to read huge excerpts from the Protocols

1066
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: of the Elders of Zion for obvious reasons, but it's

1067
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: necessary to read some pieces of it so you can

1068
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: understand how the arguments in it were framed. Here's how

1069
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: it opens, according to a nineteen seventy edition of the

1070
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: Protocols based on an Eard twentieth century British translation. Quote

1071
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: protocol is from Protocol number one. If there's like a

1072
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: bunch of them right lines and might, freedom and idea

1073
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: only liberalism, gold, faith, self government, despotism of capital, the

1074
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: internal foe, the mob, anarchy, politics versus morals, the right

1075
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: of the strong, the invincibility of jew Masonic authority in

1076
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: justifies means, the mob a blind man, political abc, party discord,

1077
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: most satisfactory form of rule, despotism, alcohol, classicism, corruption, principles

1078
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: and rules of the Jewish Masonic government, Terror, liberty, equality

1079
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: and fraternity, principle of dynastic rule, annihilation of the privileges

1080
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: of the goy aristocracy i e. Non jew As if

1081
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: they need to write that in them right like you

1082
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: got like, I should remind you that the words that

1083
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: we use um Putting aside fine phrases, we shall speak

1084
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: of the significance of each thought by comparisons and deductions.

1085
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: We shall throw light upon surrounding facts. What I am

1086
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: about to set forth, then, is our system from the

1087
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: two points of view, that of ourselves and that of

1088
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: the goyum i e. Non Jews. They keep putting that

1089
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: in there, hoping that they were going to end that

1090
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: list by we didn't start the fire. That might be

1091
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: a cover of Billy Joe. We don't need um. It

1092
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: must be noted that men with bad instincts are in

1093
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: more number than the good, and therefore the best results

1094
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: in governing them from them are attained by violence and terrorization,

1095
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: not by academic discussions. Every man aims at power. Everyone

1096
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: would like to become a dictator if only he could.

1097
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: And where indeed are the men who would not be

1098
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: willing to sacrifice the welfare of all for the sake

1099
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: of securing their own welfare. What has restrained the beats

1100
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: of prey, the beasts of prey who are called men?

1101
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: What has served their guidance hitherto? In the beginning of

1102
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: the structure of society they were subjected to brutal and

1103
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: blind force, afterwards to law, which is the same force

1104
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: only disguised. I draw the conclusion that by the law

1105
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: of nature right lies in force. So the author of

1106
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: the document, who was a rabbi standing in for the

1107
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: whole Jewish conspiracy, argues that because people are dumb and evil,

1108
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: they should be ruled, and of course they should be

1109
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: ruled by the Jews. The rest of the document goes

1110
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: on to propose ways to do this. It claims that

1111
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: for centuries, the white world was governed by a mix

1112
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: of the Church and monarchs, and as long as the

1113
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: Church and monarchs were in power, the Jewish conspiracy couldn't succeed.

1114
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean, the first half of that was like a

1115
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: Trump tweet, just like keywords, it's nuns and they're all different.

1116
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of different editions of the protocols. They're

1117
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: all a little bit different. This is the only one

1118
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: I found that has that weird little yeah, like Trump

1119
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: tweets at the start of it. So the fake author

1120
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: of this fake document continues to argue that the Jewish conspiracy,

1121
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: in order to get off the ground, had to destroy

1122
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: faith in religion. So secularism and socialism were invented by

1123
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: Jews to destroy the church because the Church was standing

1124
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: in their way of power. After they got rid of

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01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: the church, they had to overthrow the crowned heads of

1126
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: Europe because the kings are the least protection people had

1127
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: from the conspiracy the fine and this is again, this

1128
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: is why he gets drawn into the French Revolution, Right,

1129
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: the French Revolution is bad because they got rid of

1130
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: the king. The Jews got rid of the king because

1131
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: the king was standing in the way of them succeeding.

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01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: One of the protocols are really pro monarchist document right,

1133
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: like if we just had kings, everything would be better. Yeah.

1134
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: I think those uh, those bloodlines are the thing that

1135
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: we need to hold closest and cherish the most. Yeah,

1136
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: let's let's let's let's line up our our our city

1137
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: based off of incests babies, let's do that. Just some

1138
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: cousins with weird arms that that's who we need in charge.

1139
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: There's a conspiracy to destroy our freedom, so we have

1140
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: to have kings. It's not it doesn't make a lot

1141
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: of sense when you think about it. Um. So. Yeah.

1142
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: The first version of the Protocols came out around eight

1143
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: nineties six, so they were largely talking about the end

1144
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: of the French monarchy in this like that. That was

1145
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: the the initial thing that the protocols are focused around

1146
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: the monarchs have been overthrown. That's the big problem. And

1147
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: the protocols are basically a roadmap purportedly written during this

1148
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: convention laying out the plan to conquer and govern the world.

1149
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: I'll give a brief summary. Protocol one is to break

1150
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: down the national power of non Jewish states by fomenting

1151
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: internal revolutions. Appeals to class hatred or key to this,

1152
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: i e. Socialists are doing the work of Jewish people

1153
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: by convincing the poor that the richer fucking them over right,

1154
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: poor people would be happy with their lot in life

1155
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: if it weren't for this conspiracy. If only these socialists

1156
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: were convincing that their lives suck, they'd be happy, and

1157
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: then our nation would be strong. Uh. These internal revolutions

1158
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: would be fomented by having Jewish agents convinced groups of

1159
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 1: people to agitate for liberty, equality and fraternity. If you remember, liberty, egality,

1160
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: and fraternity are like that was the motto of the

1161
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: French Revolution, Like, that's what we're fighting for, is we

1162
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: want to all be equal citizens under the law, as

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01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: opposed to having like a king and a class of

1164
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 1: nobles who rule over us. And the argument of the protocol,

1165
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: so that this is a Jewish conspiracy because people aren't

1166
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: equal and liberty is a bad idea. It's just a

1167
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: it's just a plot in order to make our government's

1168
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: weaker so the Jews can take over UM. Again, it's

1169
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: a shitty argument by bad people who think that having

1170
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: a ZAR is the best thing you could possibly you

1171
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: could possibly have. UM And the basic idea is that

1172
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: the Jews are behind a global campaign for equal rights,

1173
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: which are evil. Autocratic governments are weakened by this, first

1174
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: by liberalism, then by socialism, and finally by anarchy. The

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01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 1: second protocol was that all law all wars would be

1176
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: shifted to an economic basis, ensuring that territorial advantages for

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01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: one side or the other didn't really happen. Basically, the

1178
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: author of this book took thee by then obvious fact

1179
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: that economics one wars and use that to claim that

1180
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: the way conflict work and worked in industrialized society was

1181
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: the fault of the Jews, because like they they control

1182
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: the economy, so wars aren't like noble and good anymore.

1183
01:03:56,080 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: They're just like these these industrial butcheries because of the Jews. UM.

1184
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: Next is the strengthening of Jewish international rights i e. Emancipation,

1185
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: which the author claims comes at the expense of gentiles,

1186
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: because that's their argument. Racists always make right. The the

1187
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: idea is that like part of their conspiracy is agitating

1188
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: for equal rights, because if they have equal rights, then

1189
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: Christians have less rights. That's that's a huge part of

1190
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: this document. And there's other ship. Right, there's a slid

1191
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: math that's math is checking out for me. I'm over

1192
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 1: here calculating that makes perfect. It's the same argument that

1193
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: powerful groups always make, you know, um in the face

1194
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 1: of an oppressed group agitating for more equal rights. And

1195
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: there's other ships in there. They argue that like alcohol

1196
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: was introduced by Jewish people to like numb the minds

1197
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: of Christians, like race poisons all this Nazi Sian it's

1198
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: a lot of Nazi ship you know um, And it's

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01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: it's very basic. Today, there's a million conspiracies, not all

1200
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: of which are on their surface anti Semitic. That's have

1201
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: this the same bay thing, right, there's this conspiracy they're

1202
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: they're weakening your minds with television and with popular music

1203
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: and with drugs and alcohols that you don't notice that

1204
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 1: you're being controlled by this evil cabal. And most of

1205
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: the people who believe that do believe that call is

1206
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: the Jews, but they don't say it anymore usually, right,

1207
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: um now, in the late eighteen hundreds, this idea was revolutionary.

1208
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 1: This is the first conspiracy theory like this, right, it's

1209
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: the father of them all. And the fact that the

1210
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: early nineteen hundreds were a period of calamitous wars that

1211
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 1: led to economic collapse in the fall of several governments,

1212
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 1: including the Czarist monarchy, convinced a lot of people that

1213
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: the Protocols had been perfectly accurate. In the years after

1214
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: World War One, a growing core of conspiracists would would claim,

1215
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: we know the Protocols are real because everything they predicted

1216
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: is coming true. I actually found a nineteen twenty edition

1217
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: of the Protocols that argues a remarkable similarity between the

1218
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 1: protocols and acts of the Bolshevik government, which it claims

1219
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: is under the control of Jewish leaders. And it's true

1220
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: that there were a lot of Jewish Bolsheviks, but you'll

1221
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: notice the guy who wound up in charge of the

1222
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: U s SSR was Joseph Stalin, who was not at

1223
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 1: all Jewish, and in fact j Staal's chief rival for

1224
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: power was a Jewish Man, Leon Trotsky, who he forced

1225
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: into exile and then assassinated when like he had a

1226
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: guy stabbed him to death with an ice pick in Mexico. Like,

1227
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's a pretty boss story. Ramon Mercat is

1228
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: the name of the guy who killed Trotsky. Jesus, that's

1229
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: not a nice assassination at all that I mean, it's Stalin. Yeah,

1230
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 1: it's Stalin. Stalin better than I guess Hitler when it

1231
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 1: comes to treating Jewish communities. Not great on treating Jewish community,

1232
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,919
Speaker 1: like in uss are a rough deal for Jewish people.

1233
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: During Stalin's air including like near the end of his life,

1234
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: became convinced that a cabal of Jewish doctors were planning

1235
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: his assassination, which is why he didn't have any when

1236
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 1: he had his stroke. There was no medical aid because

1237
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 1: he purged all of these doctors because he was afraid

1238
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 1: of a Jewish conspiracy. The idea that the USSR was

1239
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: like Jewish, it's just nonsense. It's completely a historical um.

1240
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of suffering of Jewish people under

1241
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: Stalin's government, you know anyway, So I just I just

1242
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: like your low bar, you're like better than Hitler, Like really,

1243
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 1: I The sad thing is when you're talking about like

1244
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 1: that particular war, Stalin does look a lot better because

1245
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: he's standing next to Hitler. You know, it's he's a

1246
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: real Beyonce next to Michelle, you know what I mean.

1247
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: I do also looks better because he was handsome, and

1248
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of similarities between Beyonce and Stalin.

1249
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 1: We've all talked about this a lot off this. I'm like,

1250
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: you know who, you know who. I've noticed a lot

1251
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: of similarities between Stalin and is Conan O'Brien because Stalin

1252
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: big lover of pranks, huge lover of pranks. Conan O'Brien,

1253
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: legendary prankster. Just reading this is completely off topic. But

1254
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 1: there's this amazing thing that there's actually nobody named Conan O'Brien.

1255
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: What do you mean what she's saying, he pronounced whatever whatever.

1256
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: Robert likes to mispronounce very famous people's names and doesn't

1257
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 1: realize he's doing it and then gets roasted. No one

1258
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: for everybody. Now, I think we have to accept that

1259
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: no one knows how he existed so long ago. No

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Speaker 1: one can tell it's like Latin. We don't know how

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Speaker 1: it was pronounced. It was so far in the past,

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Speaker 1: famed late night shows. Scholars have their theories about how

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Speaker 1: his name was pronounced, but no one knows for certain.

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Speaker 1: Um anyway, look up Conan's history of this conversation. Yeah

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Speaker 1: we did, Sophie, and I just said. Scholars Scholars debate

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01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: like the origin, like like the origin of the Protocols

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Speaker 1: of the Elders of Zion. Scholars still debate his the

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Speaker 1: pronunciation of his name. Yeah, you know, it's true. Hanging

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Speaker 1: out with your favorite singer Arianna grand Sophie, it's pronounced grande. Oh,

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Speaker 1: good to know. I know you missed these things a

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Speaker 1: lot because you're not keyed in the pop culture like

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Speaker 1: I am. All right, So the Protocols were written well

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Speaker 1: ahead of the fall of the Czarist government. Um, but

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01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: they were written about the fall of another monarchy. And

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01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 1: so a lot of the stuff written about the French

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01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: Revolution sounded like it was talking about the Russian Revolution. Right.

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Speaker 1: This book is about how the Jews are going to

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01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: overthrow kings. They're writing about something that had already happened

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01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 1: in blaming it on the Jews. Then there's another revolution

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Speaker 1: that overthrows the Tsar of Russia, and a lot of

1281
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: people see like, oh, this is proof the protocols are true, right,

1282
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: everything that they've predicted is coming true. Look like this

1283
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: is the only reason people would want to overthrow the Czar,

1284
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 1: not that he got them into a war that killed

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01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 1: eight million people. Um, it must just be the Jews

1286
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: are tried to invade Germany and got his ass kicked

1287
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: in one of the most epic beat downs in military history.

1288
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: After getting his ass kicked by the Japanese and another

1289
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: one of the most epic beat downs in military history.

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Speaker 1: It's not that the Czar had his soldiers fire on

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01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 1: crowds of people protesting for bread. It was it was

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01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 1: it was the Jews. No other reason to want the

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Speaker 1: Czar out anyway, not a pro Csar podcast, I do apologize,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, Now, the actual facts of world history did

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01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: not matter in the least. The people of the early

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Speaker 1: nineteen hundreds were living and dying through the greatest war

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Speaker 1: in history, a terrible plague that killed millions right after

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01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,799
Speaker 1: the war, and the collapse of the largest land empire

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Speaker 1: on Earth, Russia. The Russian Empire is like a seventh

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Speaker 1: of the world's land mass, like it's fucking huge. Yeah,

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01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 1: we we don't talk like Russia fucking big big, big, big, big,

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Speaker 1: big big country. And suddenly, you know, in the twenties

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Speaker 1: or in late teens, early twenties, it's just this massive

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01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 1: pile of people murdering each other. The Russian Revolution is

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01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: horrifically bloody. Um. And it just the the entire period

1306
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 1: of time up to, during and after World War One

1307
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 1: is just this, this period of violent chaos that hopefully

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01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 1: we will never see the like of again, right unless

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01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,759
Speaker 1: it happens next month. So the fact that all everything

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Speaker 1: was falling apart seemed to be explained by the protocols,

1311
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: and millions of people bought into them. Now the reality

1312
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Speaker 1: is that the Protocols of the Elders of Giant Zion

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Speaker 1: wasn't just a forgery. It was an act of plagiarism.

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't just an act of plagiarism. It was

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Speaker 1: an act of plagiarism of an act of plagiarism. Um, yeah,

1316
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 1: it's it's it's meta. I'm gonna I'm gonna read again

1317
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 1: from the Jewish Virtual Library here quote the direct predecessor

1318
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 1: of the protocols can be found in the pamphlet Dialogues

1319
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: in a Hell between Machiavelli and Montesquieu, published by the

1320
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 1: non Jewish French satirist Maurice Jolie in eighteen sixty four.

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Speaker 1: In his dialogues, which make no mention of the Jews,

1322
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 1: Jolie attacked the political ambitions of the Emperor Napoleon the

1323
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 1: Third using the imagery of a diabolical plot in Hell.

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Speaker 1: The dialogues were caught by French authorities soon after their publication,

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Speaker 1: and Jolie was tried and sentenced to prison for his pamphlet.

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Speaker 1: Jolie's Dialogues, while intended as a political satire, soon fell

1327
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Speaker 1: into the hands of a German anti Semite named Herman Getch,

1328
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 1: writing under the name of Sir John Retcliffe. Getch was

1329
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 1: a postal clerk and a spy for the Prussian secret Police.

1330
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: He had been forced to leave the postal work due

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Speaker 1: to his part in forging evidence in the prosecution against

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Speaker 1: the Democratic leader Benedict Waldeck. In eighteen forty nine, Getch

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Speaker 1: adapted Jolie's dialogues into a mythical tale of a Jewish

1334
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 1: conspiracy as part of a series of novels entitled Barets,

1335
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 1: which appeared in eighteen sixty eight. In a chapter called

1336
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 1: the Jewish Cemetery in Prague and the Council of Representatives

1337
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 1: of the Twelve Tribes of Israel, he spends the fantasy

1338
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Speaker 1: of a secret centennial rabbinical conference which meets at midnight

1339
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:00,040
Speaker 1: and whose purpose is to review the past hun of

1340
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 1: years and make plans for the next century. So this

1341
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: satirist writes a book like throwing shade on fucking Napoleon

1342
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,480
Speaker 1: the Third and like he frames it as a dialogue

1343
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 1: between these two dead guys, but he's yeah, yeah, he

1344
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 1: gets sentenced to prison for this, and it probably was

1345
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 1: a pretty good joke, right, And a German secret policeman

1346
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: finds his dialogue and writes it into an anti Semitic

1347
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: novel about a Jewish conspiracy because he thinks that like

1348
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: the wording of the dialogue, which this guy had meant

1349
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 1: to be about like how the King of France is

1350
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 1: power hungry, he makes it about how the Jews are

1351
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: trying to seize power. Um, so that happens. Now, The

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01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: most plausible theory for the origin of the Protocols as

1353
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: we know them is that get getches novels, which are

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01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 1: again a plagiarism, wound up in Russia. They were translated

1355
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 1: in eighteen seventy two, and in eighteen ninety one a

1356
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 1: new edition was published and the Council of Representatives meeting

1357
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 1: in Prague were con solidated under the name Rabbi's Speech.

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01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: So the whole dialogue between Monscuieu and um Machiavelli is

1359
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 1: like put in the mouth of a rabbi. This translation

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01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 1: probably wound up in the hands of the Okrana and

1361
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 1: and specifically the Okranna in France, because they have fourign offices,

1362
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 1: just like the CIA and the Acrona. See a used

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01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 1: for this when the dry Fuss affair convulses France from

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Speaker 1: eight eight now we talked about Dreyfus in detail during

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Speaker 1: Behind the Insurrections. The short of it is that he

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01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 1: was a Jewish French military officer falsely accused of selling

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01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 1: secrets to the Germans. After France's defeat in eighteen seventy,

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01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 1: the case became a massive culture war issue in France.

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01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 1: Dreyfus was acquitted, but the whole period spawned a bunch

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01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: of fringe newsletters that blamed French defeat on this Jewish man.

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01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 1: At the time, Russia was allied with Germany and France

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01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,679
Speaker 1: was her enemy. The same story we saw in eighteen

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Speaker 1: o six repeated itself. The Czarre secret police created the

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01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 1: protocols in order to pop up his conservative stances against

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01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 1: a wave of liberal sympathy that kept pushing for warm

1376
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,679
Speaker 1: Since many prominent liberals were Jewish and nice, anti Semitic

1377
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: conspiracy would help to divide the left, to make regular

1378
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 1: Russians less likely to trust any reform. And that is

1379
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 1: more or less where the Protocols of the Elders of

1380
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:16,680
Speaker 1: Zion came from. The acronic plagiarizes, a work of plagiarism

1381
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 1: by oppression in order to like prop up the Czar

1382
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: against liberals. And it's it's again like that that first

1383
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 1: appeal in eighteen o six, that first piece of big

1384
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 1: anti Semitic propaganda. It's not meant to go worldwide. It

1385
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 1: is meant to have a very specific impact within France

1386
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: and Russia on a specific series of political issues. But

1387
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 1: it fucking gets out of here. It breaks containment right

1388
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 1: like a virus, and it goes viral immediately and within

1389
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 1: a few years, the Elders of Zion, the Protocols of

1390
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,639
Speaker 1: the Elders of Zion have spread all over the world.

1391
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about fucking Colombia in our next episode.

1392
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 1: Um and provided went on to provide like inspire slaughter

1393
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: and all over the planet and provide a lot of

1394
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 1: the fuel for what became the Holocaust. Well, I have

1395
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: is like, how does it spread like that? Like this

1396
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 1: isn't the Internet doesn't exist, and I'm an idiot, so

1397
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how things. Uh, We're gonna break that

1398
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 1: down in part two. I'm gonna we're gonna talk about

1399
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 1: specifically the nation of Columbia, and I'll walk you through

1400
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,560
Speaker 1: exactly how it's spread throughout Columbia and the impact that

1401
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 1: it has because it's very interesting and the story in Columbia,

1402
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 1: similar things happen all over the world of different countries spread.

1403
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 1: Don't worry, we bring it. We bring it back to

1404
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: the Midwest too. Don't worry a little don't worry a

1405
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 1: little bit. It's a little bit of Henry Ford. But first,

1406
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 1: just just a teeny bit that there's a lot to

1407
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 1: say about him doing this. I didn't include a whole

1408
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: lot in here, just because there's so much else to

1409
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 1: get over but we'll do a Henry Ford episode at

1410
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 1: some point. Be a long one guy, no good, no good,

1411
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 1: not a not a nice dude. Well you've got any plug,

1412
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:58,879
Speaker 1: double plug Langston. Yeah, yeah, you can listen to my podcast.

1413
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 1: It's called My Mama told me. It's available everywhere. We

1414
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 1: talk about conspiracy theories, and I'm gonna use a lot

1415
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,560
Speaker 1: of this information to apply to my own nonsense. So

1416
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 1: this is exciting. Yeah, Well I love I don't know,

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01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't love anything. Just greatly on

1418
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 1: just raid theon and kill him Bazaar. I do love

1419
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 1: killing Tazar. So why don't you all go out and

1420
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 1: while you wait for at part two, find us are

1421
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 1: you know, deal with him? Kill him, kill him kill

1422
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 1: kill a fuckings art, Go find us art, take him out.

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01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 1: Get an old timmy bomb and take out that tsar. Yeah,

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01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 1: one of those, you know, the kind like it's a

1425
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: big sphere. It's got like a little knob on the top,

1426
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 1: like a very long, just long wik that burns pretty slow,

1427
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,640
Speaker 1: but not slow enough to get away. You kill him

1428
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 1: not yeah, you fucking take that czar anyway. This is

1429
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,759
Speaker 1: behind the bastards once again inciting violence against the Russian

1430
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:00,679
Speaker 1: Royal family. Um as is our want