1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading The 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth podcast. The Who's Gonna Run This Town to 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 1: Night addition, as the Bengals wrap up their first week 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: of training camp by drawing nearly twenty nine thousand fans 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: to Paul Brown Stadium for a practice on Back Together Saturday. 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: Around the NFL coming up, you'll hear from Money mac 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: Evan McPherson, whose sixty five yard field goal ended that practice. 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: NFL insider Ian Rappaport was among the spectators, and I'll 9 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: get his thoughts on the defending AFC champs. And then 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: a broadcast partner, Dave Lapham, joins me as we share 11 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: some observations on the first few days of training camp. 12 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Ultimate Bengals. Download 13 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: Ultimate Bengals ahead of the upcoming season. It's free to 14 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: play next level fantasy football with fantastic Bengals prizes. Get 15 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: it now on the App Store and Google Play. And 16 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: here's a quick reminder that you can have the latest 17 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: edition of this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, 18 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: or computer by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's 19 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: the greatest thing since the Bengals AFC Championship rings. It's 20 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: obviously not the ultimate prize, but the Bengals distributed spectacular 21 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: rings last week to celebrate the organization's third trip to 22 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. The top of the ring features the 23 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,919 Speaker 1: Bengals orange and black b logo, with a diamond cut 24 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: black stone behind it to make that logo pop. Above 25 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: and below it are ten orange sapphires, symbolic of the 26 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: franchisees ten division titles. Eighty diamonds sparkle on top of 27 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: the ring, including a series in the shape of a football, 28 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: and seventeen more diamonds around the top edge in an 29 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: alternating pattern with seventeen orange sapphires. The Lamar Hunt AFC 30 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: Championship Trophy is on the side of the ring, surrounded 31 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: by three more or in sapphires, signifying Cincinnati's three conference titles, 32 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: and on the inside of the ring you'll find the 33 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: scores of the bengals three postseason wins. For the players 34 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: and coaches, it's a richly deserved reward for all they 35 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: accomplished last season, and also a reminder that a bigger 36 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: prize is within their grasp. Last year, on back together. Saturday, 37 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 1: the Big Open practice that the Bengals hold at Paul 38 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: Brown Stadium. Evan McPherson ended the day by attempting a 39 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: sixty yard field goal. He had the distance but missed 40 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: it wide left. This year, he ended the event with 41 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: a sixty five yard attempt and drilled it with plenty 42 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: of room to spare. It was the latest impressive feat 43 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: by the kid with a bionic foot. Including the postseason. 44 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: Last year, McPherson made twelve field goals of fifty or 45 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: more yards. Dave lappom and I caught up with him 46 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: Saturday immediately after that sixty five yard blast. Did you 47 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: know that sixty five yard opportunity was coming? Yeah? No, 48 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: I definitely did. We've talked about it and just kind 49 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: of It's kind of what we did last year too, 50 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: was just kind of putting foot on a show for 51 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: the for the fans and everybody that showed up. So 52 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: I didn't know it was coming. We didn't know how 53 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: far we were gonna go. We're just gonna kind of 54 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: judge it off of how we were feeling on the 55 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 1: wind and everything. How did that feel felt good? No? 56 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: I hit it really well. Um probably hit it as 57 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: about as good as I could have um and the 58 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: guy stating under the upright said it was it had 59 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: a couple more yards on its all felt good. Anything 60 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: if I hit that that same ball maybe like seventy 61 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: he said it had been good from seventy. But who knows. 62 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: Sweet nice way to cap this practice. I mean, obviously 63 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: everybody out here is still buzzing from the Super Bowl trip, 64 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: and to see you do that sends everybody home happy. Yeah, definitely, 65 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: and I think it I think everybody should be excited 66 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: for the season. I say, well, you know, they saw 67 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: a good team out there practicing the day, and they're 68 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: going to see a good team play here in as 69 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: a next week or a couple of weeks against Arizona 70 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: thirteen days, thirteen days, there we go. What'd you think 71 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: of the reception when you walked out? People went nuts? Yeah. 72 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just awesome just to have that support 73 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: from the fans, and it gives me confidence going into it. 74 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: You know that everybody's behind me if no matter what happens. 75 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: So all right, you've got a sixty five yarder in practice. 76 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: If it comes up in a game, you know you 77 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: can do it. Exactly, No We're prepared for it, so 78 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna be the right situation for sure. Last year 79 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: I saw McPherson make a sixty two yarder during pregame 80 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: warmups in Denver, and later that day he set the 81 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: franchise record with a fifty eight yarder in the game. 82 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth podcast is presented by Ultimate Bengals. They're 83 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: free to play fantasy football game. This past season, Ultimate 84 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: Bengals awarded a weekly winner during the course of the 85 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: year with tickets, autograph merchandise, and money can't buy experiences 86 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: all up for grabs five Ultimate Bengals in the app 87 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: Store and Google Play. NFL Network insider Ian Rappaport was 88 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: in attendance at Paul Brown Stadium on Saturday, and I 89 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: caught up with him for about ten minutes just before 90 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: practice got under way. Ian, what are your biggest questions 91 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: about the Bengals coming off the Super Bowl appearance. I 92 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: don't have nearly as many questions as I did last year. 93 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,239 Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about it, like the defense, 94 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: assuming Jesse Bates shows up before Week one, defense is 95 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: basically the same, right, I mean, you lose Ogan Joby, 96 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: but like you can make up for those seven sacks 97 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: somewhere else, probably like some talent in the back end. Otherwise, 98 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: like everyone's basically the same offensive line will be better. 99 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: So it's not like I have a ton of questions, 100 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: like his Ted Carriss can be able to be like 101 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: a starting center or whatever. Like Le Collins is what 102 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: he is, like a really really really solid tackle. Like 103 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: I don't even have any questions there. Joe Burrow sounds like, 104 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: get a great offseason and I health one, which is 105 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: most important. He'll probably be a little bit better too, 106 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: So questions like I don't know, I really don't have 107 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: very many. Honestly, that's pretty telling. I mean in most 108 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: camps there's usual at least something that you wonder, Okay, 109 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: did they solve that problem or whatever. It doesn't sound 110 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: like this particular team has a bunch of those. Yeah, 111 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the offensive line would be sort 112 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: of the target. But like it's not like they drafted 113 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: guys and then we'll see like the guys they signed, 114 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, like I know what Lyle Collins is. I've 115 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: seen him start for seven years or whatever. It is 116 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: like Ted Kerres, same thing, Kappas, same thing. Like I 117 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: don't know, like I'm not. I don't. I guess maybe 118 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: you worry about the wonder about the fit a little bit, 119 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: but like I'm really not, Like I think they should 120 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: be fine. Like last you know, the only sort of 121 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: thing would be everyone's gunning for him, but like that's 122 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: not really a tangible thing, and like I feel like 123 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: everyone's gunning for everyone in the NFL anyway. So I 124 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: don't know. Do you think the Jesse Bates contract impass 125 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: could be a problem. No, I don't think it'll be 126 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: a problem. I don't think it'll be a problem this year. 127 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: You know, you'd like to get it done. He is 128 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: a homegrown, great guy, great player. Those are the guys 129 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: you'd like to pay. They just didn't get it to 130 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: a point where it got done. And you know, I 131 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: know there are several other teams that didn't get deals 132 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: done for their franchise guy either. Some did, some didn't. 133 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: It's too bad because you'd always like to you'd always 134 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: like to handle it. But as far as like on 135 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: the football field, you know, assuming he shows up for 136 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: a week one, which historically almost everybody has, you might 137 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: take a couple of weeks to get into the flow, 138 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: like okay, maybe, but you got a first rounder who's 139 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: been taking all those reps might end up being a 140 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: positive because that's a lot more steps for Dax than 141 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: you're expecting. Ian rap report is our guest. Burrows many 142 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: great pat tribute. What stands out to you the most. 143 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: He's a great dresser. He's pregame pre game outfits are tremendous. 144 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: He gives you know he doesn't care, we'll just dress 145 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: to the nine thing, go out and perfore him. I 146 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: always respected that. No, But I think the thing about 147 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: Burrow is really the same thing that it's been before 148 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: he became a pro, is that he's always been a pro. 149 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: Like It's not like, how's he going to react to 150 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: the NFL Like he's been an NFL quarterback. He just 151 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: did it in college, like he ran the show at LSU. 152 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: He does the same here. He's got total understanding of 153 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: the offense. He's got really good accuracy. He is able 154 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: to get what he wants in like a sort of 155 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: not offensive way, which I think if you're a leader, 156 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: half the thing is getting what you want without everybody 157 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: hating you. Nobody hates Joe Burrow. Everybody loves Joe Burrow. 158 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: Um there's a lot to like. I mean, there's a 159 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: lot to like. You know, it's interesting because when you 160 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: joke about his wardrobe choices, it does kind of reinforce 161 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: how comfortable he is in his own skid. That's part 162 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: of his leadership, I think. Yeah. I mean, I don't 163 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: know about the parental level of this podcast, but I 164 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: would say he gives no face, like he really doesn't, 165 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: and he addresses how he wants to. And he's bold, 166 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: and he's a little brash, and he'll wear a big 167 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: chain and I'll wear stupid glasses at a press conference, 168 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: and I'll throw over three and fifty yards and like, 169 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that he does. They really 170 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: have to be great to do, which is great because 171 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: he is great and so like he could literally do 172 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: anything you want. Everyone's like he's earned it. You know, 173 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: there's a lot of star par on this team right 174 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: now with Burrow, Chase Higgins, mix and etc. How about 175 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: under the radar guys or under rated guys? Is there 176 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: anybody on this team that you think, you know what, 177 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: that guy's a big difference maker for the Bengals and 178 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: nobody really talks about him. I would say, you know, 179 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: I'll be curious if Hayden Hurst fills that this year. 180 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: You know, CJ was so good and so perfect for 181 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: the Bengals, got more money somewhere else, which is awesome, 182 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: Like that's that's what you want. And I'll be really 183 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: curious to see where Hayden Hurst fits in. You know, 184 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: It's not like people were like beating down his door 185 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: in free agency. He's been really productive a couple of 186 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: different times, but has never really really commanded top dollar. 187 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: And I'm not I don't really know why. He just 188 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: hasn't freeting. He doesn't work for everyone. Sounds like the 189 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: early returns are really positive. He is a great athlete. 190 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: He is a great athlete, so might give you a 191 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: little more than CJ gave you, maybe just as far 192 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: as like stretching it a little bit. So I'm really 193 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: fascinated to see what that edition was. What stands out 194 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: to you about how Duke Tobin built this roster over 195 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: the last couple of years and turning a team that 196 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: had the number one pick in the draft to a 197 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: team that was some minute and a half away from 198 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: winning a Super Bowl. Yeah, I mean it's hard to 199 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: get any better than what they've done, you know, and 200 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: like Duke as a guy, I've always had a lot 201 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: of respect for everyone around the league. Does um, you know, 202 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: there was a string of years where it kind of 203 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: all came apart and I don't even know that it 204 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: was really like, you know, was it player evaluation, Like 205 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: I didn't maybe some missues, but like not even really 206 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: that many honestly, just it was a good run that 207 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: sort of went the wrong way, you know. I think 208 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: the coaching change helped and they had to start back 209 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: up from the bottom. And he is patient, He is 210 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: very savvy. Picks picks have been really good and when 211 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: the Vangals never spending free agency, but when they've done, 212 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: you know, with the with one exception Trey Wayne's which 213 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: he just wasn't healthy, Like that's what what are you 214 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: gonna do? It wasn't healthy. Um, every guy they've chosen 215 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: has fit and has been an instant impact guy, Like 216 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: it's hard to have that good of a hot streak, 217 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: but he think about it, that's really what they've done. 218 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: Great drafting, well timed free agents and like a year 219 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: before they were good, he and the coaching staff kind 220 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: of helped establish the Bengals is like a place players 221 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: would want to be. Obviously, it wasn't always like that, 222 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: so that kind of stands out. I think there's a 223 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: bit of a national narrative out there that the Bengals 224 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: might have been a little bit lucky or flukey last year, 225 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: whatever term you want to use. Do you think there's 226 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: any validity to that. I haven't really heard that, because 227 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: everyone has respect for where they are. Like, if you 228 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: look at it, this roster, this is a good roster, 229 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: Like it is a like find the weak spot, you know, 230 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: like the offensive line was it, and then spent a 231 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: lot of money to share it up, like find the weakness. 232 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: So it didn't feel fluky. And I think maybe because like, 233 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: you know, there are quarterbacks who are productive a good 234 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: obviously Joe's good, but everybody likes him and it feels 235 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: like nationally thinks he's cool and wants him to succeed. 236 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: So like, I didn't get the sense everybody thought it 237 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: was a fluke. I think everybody got the sense of, like, 238 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: these guys deserve to be here because like, are they 239 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: a little too young? Maybe, but like they didn't know 240 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: anything last year, so they just kept winning. You know. 241 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: The whole thing was really cool. To watch. How do 242 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: you assess the AFC North the weekend of training camps? 243 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: You know, I would say Steelers, I'd like to know 244 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: a little more about, to know who their quarterback is. Otherwise, 245 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: I mean, the Browns are gonna be interesting, depending on 246 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: how long Deshaun Watson suspended. Otherwise it's going to be 247 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: kind of the same. And when Ravens will be good, 248 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: Bengals will be good. You know, like it might be 249 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: a little different early the Steelers take a while to 250 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: find their footing and the Browns don't have DeShawn, But 251 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: like by the end, my guess is that everyone's kind 252 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: of around in that playoff mix. In December, final question 253 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: for Ian Rapp Report. How valuable is this time of 254 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: the year for you going from camp to camp, developing contacts, 255 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: reconnecting with contacts. I mean, it's amazing. It's it's you know, 256 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: hard on the body, it's hard on the life because 257 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: you say, I'm going away for twenty days. It is 258 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: so essential and besides just being important for work, Like 259 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: you know, I'll come and I'll meet young coaches that 260 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: I've never met, Like I sat with Dan Pitcher for 261 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes because I heard great things, and it's one 262 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: of the reasons I'm here. I heard great things people 263 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: like you should meet this guy. So I came here 264 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: to talk with Zach and Duke and whoever, but also 265 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: meet Dan Pitcher because as far as someone who's going 266 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: to be an offensive coordinator maybe head coach, like he's 267 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: on the list, you know. So that's why this is 268 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: important for me. So it's hard, like logistically, it's hard. 269 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: Body wise, it's hard. It is a lot of fun, 270 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: and it's insanely valuable. You probably got four critical texts 271 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: during this ten minute conversation, so I really appreciate your time. 272 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: I will check in one second and pray, thank you man, 273 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Dan Pitcher is the Bengals thirty 274 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: five year old quarterbacks coach, and I'm not surprised to 275 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: hear that his name is getting around as a future 276 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator or even head coach. Finally, time to check 277 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: in with Dave Lapham as we share some thoughts on 278 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: the first week of training camp. Lap or four practices in, 279 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: none of them in full pads. So it's very early 280 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: to make any definitive sort of statements at this point. 281 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: But have there been any standouts in the early going. 282 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: In your opinion, I think a lot of guys have 283 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: started camp off pretty well. Dan, I have been impressed. 284 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: I was impressed at OTAs with Kwamie Laster, his you know, 285 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: precise and smooth out running of ballio ability. I don't 286 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: think he's going to run away from anybody, but I 287 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: do think that he gets separation, you know, he lowers 288 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: his hips and gets in and out of cuts well. 289 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: And a guy I gotta like him caught my eye 290 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: and I think he's done a pretty good job in 291 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: the early stage as a training camp. I will say 292 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: that all three of the the rookie defensive acts, we 293 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: heard about their speed and it's transplated on the football 294 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: feed field. Sometimes guys that run fast forwardies and you 295 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: don't see it on functional football speed. But these guys 296 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: you do, you know, and and they're they're covering a 297 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: lot of ground out there, and I think they've all 298 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: got all got bright futures. There's uh, there's no doubt 299 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: about that. Dax Hill, Cam Taylor Britt. You know, they 300 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: these guys have have really have really shown shown me 301 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: that that they've they've got football speed. Tyson Amerson as 302 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: well on the Toledo um speed and football speed, both 303 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: which is good trade On Williams, I thought it's had 304 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: a very good start to his training camp. Another guy 305 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: in the secondary that I liked in is is DeVante Hood. 306 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: This this guy's long, you know, and he's got he's 307 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: got some ability. I think, you know, he's got I'm 308 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: not talking about all these guys making the team necessarily, 309 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: but definitely on the practice squad with an opportunity to 310 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: develop them for you know, for their NFL careers. At 311 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: the linebacker level. Got Clarence Hicks to me, looks like 312 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: he's got a little bit of suddenness and twitched to him. Um, 313 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: I want to see see more of him. It's been 314 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: good to see a keen Davis Gaither working his way 315 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: back to I think a pretty you know, pretty effective 316 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: linebacker for the for the Bengals. From a physical standpoint, 317 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: he can really run offensive lineman. It's it's very hard 318 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: to judge, like you said, without pads on Dan, but 319 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 1: I think I think that group is going to be 320 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: noticeably better when when things get underway, and in fact, 321 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: in my opinion, this football team roster wise from a 322 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: year ago, is much better now than it was a 323 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: year ago, and the biggest reason in my mind is 324 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: because of the improvements they've made in the offensive line 325 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: um that that has taken a you know, well over 326 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: the top. I think, so those are those are a 327 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: few guys. I think Zach Carter has has shown that 328 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: he's got the ability to to be that three technique 329 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: that Ogan Joeby provided. I'm not saying to the level 330 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: of Logan Joeby provided right away, but I think he's 331 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: He's got a good sized body on him, he's got 332 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: very good first step quickness, he's got you know, give 333 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: off to him. I think I think he's another one 334 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: that has had a fairly good, fairly good start to 335 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: training camp. But now that the ramp up stage is over, 336 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 1: practice without pads, now we'll find out a little bit 337 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: more about the interior or the upfront guys, the offensive 338 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: and defensive line, and linebackers and tight ends and people 339 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 1: of that. ILK. I'm glad you mentioned rookie Zach Carter 340 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: and Larry Ogan Jobie because I think Larry Ogunjobi's absence, departure, 341 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: whatever term you want to use, is maybe the kind 342 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: of least talked about story on this team this year. 343 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: He played sixty four percent of the defensive snaps during 344 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: the regular season. Last year it was forty five percent 345 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: for b J. Hills. He added up again one o nine, 346 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: so sometimes they played together, but Ogan Joby got the 347 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: bulk of the snaps next to DJ Reader. That's an 348 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: important job. Those guys have to have somebody that goes 349 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: in there and gives them, you know, a blow from 350 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: time to time. Josh Tupa can do that and does 351 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: it pretty well, particularly in run stopping situations. But it'd 352 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: be nice to have a guy that can go in 353 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: there and provide a little pass rush and hopefully Zach 354 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: Carter can be that guy. I agree, Dan, and um, 355 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: you know the thing You've got DJ Reader and Tupaul 356 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: and those guys are you know, they're big space eater guys. 357 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: And what Ogan Joby did, and I think what what 358 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: Carter is going to be able to do is invert 359 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, you know, with that explosive penetration 360 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: kind of thing. You know, they give these type of guys, 361 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: give them that scenario. And that's that's tough when when 362 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: you get the the line inverted against you and you're 363 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: trying to you know, establish the line of scrimmage. It's 364 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: it can be a definite challenge, so that that role 365 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: is an important one and I think they might have 366 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: a candidate that could, you know, can feel that. Overall, Dana, 367 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: I've been extremely impressed with the Bengals defense. The low 368 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: red zone defense yesterday was suffocating. You know. The offense 369 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: never scored a testdown on a snap from inside the 370 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: ten yard line on a single snap. And like I 371 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: said earlier, the team speed has increased with these young 372 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: guys on the back end. They're fast. This defensive football 373 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 1: team is fast, period, and they cover a lot of 374 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: ground out there. I think defensively they're going to pick 375 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: up where they left off. And you look at it 376 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, seven different guys combined for eight interceptions, 377 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: So Louiana Rum was getting contributions everywhere, you know, in 378 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: terms of making players on the football. And that's what 379 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: it's all about. It's all about the ball, man, It's 380 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: all about protecting the ball. It's all about taking it away. 381 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: On the other side, of those nine takeaways and only 382 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: two giveaways plus seven in the class was the single 383 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: most important reason they got to Super Bowl fifty six. 384 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: Let's talk about hayden Hurst. He's not quite as big 385 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: as c J Uzama. I don't necessarily think that he's 386 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: faster running in a straight line than CJ. They're probably 387 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: pretty comparable, but he's more fluid. CJ was more robotic 388 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: in his cuts. You could kind of see when the 389 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: cut was coming in advance. Hayden Hurst is very fluid. 390 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 1: I think he's off to an excellent start. And I 391 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: think CJ was twentieth in the NFL last year in 392 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: receiving yards among tight ends a little bit under five 393 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: hundred yards. I think hayden Hurst could could add one 394 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: hundred or two hundred yards to that in this offense. 395 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: I totally agree with your assessment about, you know, the 396 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: route running aspect of it, the fluidity of it getting 397 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: in and out of cuts. You know, Fredikof wasn't gonna 398 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: run by anybody, but Fred Blitnikoff would get separation and 399 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: against really good defensive backs, they had great quickness and 400 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: speed because he would get in and out of his 401 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 1: cut so sharply and so precisely, he'd have it. You know, 402 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: he'd gained a step right there. And hayden Hurst has 403 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: that type of route running a bit he runs routes 404 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: like a whiteout. He's got that type of that type 405 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: of physical ability I think in a big body like that. 406 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: So I do think that's going to be an underrated thing. 407 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: I think people aren't talking about it as much as 408 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: like you were when you were talking about Ogan, Joeb 409 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: and Carter. You know that that aspect of it. With 410 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: the three receiver sets, the eleven personnel that the Banks 411 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: are going to run a high percentage of the time, 412 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst is going to get some very favorable matchups 413 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: for a guy his talent and ability. So I think 414 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,239 Speaker 1: that's going to be something to monitor as you know, 415 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: not only training camp goes on, because I'm not sure 416 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: how many snaps he's going to get in preseason games, 417 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: but definitely as the season progresses. To me, it's going 418 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: to be very interesting his value if at the end 419 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: of the line of scrimmage he can be able to 420 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: handle himself with outside linebackers and looking down on defensive 421 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: ends and some of the physicality things. CJ was pretty 422 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: good in that area, you know, in terms of solidifying things. 423 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: If you have a line of scrimmage, if Hayden Hurst 424 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: can provide that that CJ did, as well as the 425 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: advantage that he gets with his route running ability to 426 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: have something pretty good there. I made an appearance on 427 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: the NFL Network on Saturday, and they asked me about 428 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: the vibe at training camp, and I described it as 429 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: unfinished business and passed along an anecdote from cornerback Trey Flowers. 430 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: I was talking to him at his locker the other 431 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: day and mentioned the AFC championship rings and he said 432 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: he hadn't even opened the box. He doesn't even want 433 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: to see it until they went a real Super Bowl 434 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: Championship ring. Then he'll go back and look at an 435 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: AFC Championship ring. Do you get a kind of an 436 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: unfinished business vibe? Is that a good way to describe it? 437 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: Or is there something else that stands out to you? 438 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: I do? I do get that. There's there's no doubt. 439 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: I think that they realized that they were right in 440 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: the midst of an opportunity that doesn't present itself very often, 441 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: and they didn't quite get it done. So they I 442 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: do think that they're feeling that unfinished business feeling, and 443 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: unfortunately franchises felt that three times now, and I can 444 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: I can relate to Trey Flowers. I've kind of pretty 445 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: much did the same thing with the ring I got 446 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: as a player, and I really haven't won it. I 447 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: haven't won that ring um And I'm not sure how 448 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: much aware of the ring that we got as a 449 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: broadcast team for Super Bowl fifty six, but it was intentional. 450 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: As a player, It's like, oh no, this isn't a 451 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: big prize. This is a consolation prize, and I'm not. 452 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: I was proud of the fact that we are to 453 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: see champions, but bemoaning the fact that we didn't win 454 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: the big the big banana. So I do think there's 455 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: a lot of that with this uh, with this football team. 456 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: The other thing though, that it hits me. You know, 457 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: we've been in the locker room. COVID protocols are gone, 458 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: so we're back in there and able to uh, you know, 459 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: mingle with players. That locker room is phenomenal. I mean, 460 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: there is no jerk factor whatsoever, not a sniff of 461 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: it anywhere. And they they they're all they're all got 462 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 1: each other's backs, they're all pulling for each other. No, 463 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's all about with us. It's not I me. 464 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 1: You know, there's no selfishness in there. It really is 465 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: about as good as I've seen. And you know, they're 466 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: all high character guys. They're all you know, captains and 467 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: multiple captains and um it's and during the course of 468 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: the season. I mean, heck, look at the Bengals. They 469 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: lost two home games in a row to the Charges 470 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,239 Speaker 1: and forty nine ers and overtime to be seven and 471 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: six halfway through December. So you're not thinking going to 472 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty six. But that character and everything, you 473 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: handle adversity better, you know, instead of finger pointing and 474 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: you know it's not me, it's you. Everybody said, Okay, 475 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my job a little bit better and 476 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: do and handle things. And they caught fire at the 477 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: right time. And that I think those kind of intangiles, 478 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: those kind of variables are going to take your long way. 479 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: L Collins hasn't practiced yet because of a sore back. 480 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: We talked to him in front of his locker a 481 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: couple of days ago. Did that conversation settle any concerns 482 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: you might have had about his health going forward? Yeah, 483 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: I've been around teammates that have had, you know, minor 484 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: disc issues where it's pinching a nerve kind of thing 485 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: all four L five and you know, some numbness in 486 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 1: the leg or whatever the case may be. And they 487 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: have alleviated themselves the way he's moving around and he's 488 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: the way he's able to work out already. I don't 489 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 1: see any real major issue in terms of him, you know, 490 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: missing two months or something like that. I think he's 491 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: going to be back in a couple of weeks. I 492 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: think he will be taking reps out there before training 493 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: camp is totally over with. By that, I mean, you know, 494 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: camp quote breaks before the preceding games are all concluded. 495 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: But it's the exact same thing. He'll he'll get the 496 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: work that he needs, I think to be ready to 497 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: play against the Pittsburgh Steelers and the opener in my estimation, 498 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: and I'm excited to see the right side, center, right guard, 499 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: right tackle. I'm excited to see those guys out there, 500 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: you know, working together against a good defensive unit like 501 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers in that opener. It's going to be 502 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: it's going to be a very good first test. There's 503 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: no doubt about it that that group is pretty strong. 504 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: He's he's going to have his handfull of TJ. Watt. 505 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: Now that guy is the energizer bunny. He keeps going 506 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: and going and going. But I think Collins is going 507 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: to be up to the task. It's going to be 508 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: a very interesting, interesting battle of watch on the edge there. 509 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: I think we all assume that Jesse Bates is going 510 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: to report at some point, probably in time for a 511 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: week one of the regular season. But if not, would 512 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: Dax Hill be fine based on what you've seen so far? Yeah, 513 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think that it's it's hard 514 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: to drill a hole in a rookie's head and pour 515 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: all the experience that Jesse Bates has got now. So honestly, 516 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: I mean, Jesse second round pick himself, you know, high 517 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: second round pick, and uh, you know, it took him 518 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: a little while. It takes everybody a little while. So 519 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: I don't think that we can expect Dax Hill to 520 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: be as as comfortable as Jesse Bates might be in 521 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: the early stages of the season with everything that's going 522 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: on around it, because it will be so new to 523 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: Dax and more old hat to Jesse, as Jesse will 524 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: have seen more at that point in time in terms 525 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: of what the NFL has got to offer from a 526 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: formation standpoint, and play, creativity and excellence of the athletes 527 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: and all that that goes along with it. There is 528 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: some adjustment there, but I think he's a quick study 529 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: and I think he's got ability to adapt and adjust 530 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: to his environment pretty done quickly. Is he gonna make mistakes? Hell, yeah, 531 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: everybody makes mistakes, but I think he's gonna you know, 532 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: it's doctor to crush him if he makes a mistake. 533 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: He won't. He won't stay lost in space. He's gonna 534 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: bounce right back and uh and make plays. I think 535 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: he's that type of player. I do think they've got 536 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: a really good player in Dacksville, and I think they've 537 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: got another one and Tyson Anderson. The organization has done 538 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: a pretty good job over the years of doubling down, 539 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: you know, Chad and the TJ and you know, doubling 540 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: down up positions where you can only get one, you 541 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: get a couple, and they might have done at this 542 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: time at the safety position in the draft. I've been 543 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: very impressed by Ted Carriss with his energy, his enthusiasm, 544 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: his smarts, his leadership, etc. I wasn't here in your 545 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: playing days, but I bet you were like that back 546 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: in the day. Do you feel a little bit of 547 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: a bond with Ted carriss I do feel, you know, 548 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of a bond with with Ted. He's 549 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: a very Uh He's an easy guy to gravitate toward because, 550 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: like you said, he is so enthusiastic and energetic about 551 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: the game. He's got a real high football intelligence quoting. 552 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: There's no question he's got to football IQ that that 553 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: you that you look for. And you know, I'm sure 554 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: some teammates are like, oh man, this guy is this real? 555 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: That's him every day. He just loves football. He loves 556 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: exactly every aspect of you know, being there. He loves 557 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: getting ready, preparing, he loves the grind of the preparation. Uh, 558 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: he loves everything about it. And I'm sure you know 559 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: there are things that you know I'm not I'm not 560 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: real keen on that, but overall, when you lay your 561 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: head on the pillow, I'm sure I remember feeling his way, 562 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: even in the throes of training camp, in the in 563 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: the dog days of training camp, when your body's saying 564 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: what the hell are you doing to me, and you 565 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: know you're mentally fatigued and everything else, I remember laying 566 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: down and saying, you know what this is tough, but boy, 567 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: am I glad I'm here. This is exactly what I 568 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: wanted to do. I'm the luckiest guy in the world, 569 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,959 Speaker 1: and this I don't want to be anywhere else. And 570 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure and Ted Carress feels, you know that that 571 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: way about it, and and I think fortunately they've they've 572 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: put their bat on the ball in evaluating and sifting 573 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: through players that have that exact feeling. There are a 574 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: lot of guys in that locker room that have that 575 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: type of feeling, and Ted Carriss is He's one of 576 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: the leaders of the pack. There's no question about it. 577 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: We have now seen what a sixty five yard field 578 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: goal looks like in person, after Evan McPherson booted one 579 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: on Saturday to end the big practice at Paul Brown Stadium. 580 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: The NFL record is sixty six, set last year by 581 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: Justin Tucker. I don't know if Evan McPherson is ever 582 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: going to get a shot to tie that or break that, 583 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: But do you think that he will become the first 584 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: Bengals kicker to boot one from sixty plus at some point? 585 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: I do? I do. I think there's going to be 586 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: an occasion where, you know, it'll it'll come up. It 587 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: won't come up often, but there'll be an occasion where, yeah, 588 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: you know what we have to we have to try 589 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: this sixty one yard field goal, and he can make it. 590 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: We've seen him make it, so yeah, let's let's let's 591 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: go for it. There will be a game, a circumstance 592 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: where he will have an opportunity to probably get that done. 593 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: And the thing about his sixty five yard that stunned 594 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: me is is the trajectory, the instantaneous height that he 595 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: gets on the football. I mean, man, he elevates that 596 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: thing so quickly. You know, instead of thinking, I know 597 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: I have to hit the low for the drive to 598 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: drive the football, he's still I mean nobody, that thing 599 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: is unblockable, and it traveled the distance that it traveled. 600 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: It's just phenomenal. It's he is. He is a very 601 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: very unique talent. There is, there's no question about it. 602 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: And I probably that one probably would have been good 603 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: from I'd say sixty seven, you know absolutely, I mean 604 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: if not seventy. Yeah, that was pure. That was very pure, 605 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: and uh just makes you scratch your head. Boy, he's 606 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: got an explosive right hip and right leg. There is No, 607 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: it's good. Dynamite caps in there, man, I think I said, 608 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: I said what I was thinking when he hit it. 609 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: If it's good, he's bionic and bionic hip and a 610 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: bionic leg on that right side. It's crazy. We haven't 611 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: seen Joe Burrow yet. There's no official timetable, and when 612 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: he's going to come back and start practicing. Do you 613 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: have a feel for how much time he can miss 614 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: before it would actually hurt him or hurt the team 615 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: in any way? I think that, you know, a couple 616 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: three weeks. I really think he could miss um. And 617 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: we're already a week into it. I'd say it's going 618 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: to be a couple more weeks. And I'm not saying 619 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: that he won't be out there. I'm sure he'll be 620 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: out there, you know, taking the mental reps and going 621 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: through things with his teammates and bonding that way, and 622 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 1: everybody will be excited to have him out there, there's 623 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: no question about it. But the two things that you 624 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: know come to my mind is you got to you 625 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: gotta make sure that it's healing properly, and you avoid 626 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: at all cost infection. And it's not like his appendix 627 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: rupture or burst or anything. There wasn't any infection on 628 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 1: the front, But I'm talking about after the fact. You 629 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: go through the procedure, and I mean, hecky had an 630 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: organ taken out of your body, and you know your 631 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: body has to respond or recover, and you don't want 632 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: it to have to then handle an affection. So that 633 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: that's one thing, and then the other thing is let 634 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: it heal. Because the way Joe throws a football, he 635 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: uses his core. You know every quarterback does. I mean, 636 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: they're They're torking and twisting that core pretty darn significantly, 637 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: and you know, you want to you want to make 638 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,439 Speaker 1: sure that the healing is is uh far along, so 639 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 1: far along that you don't even have to worry about, 640 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: you know, anything that that may be disrupted because of that, 641 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, severe torque or that severe twisting of your 642 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,479 Speaker 1: of your body that you have to do to throw, 643 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: you know, to goose that ball down the field, and 644 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: those de throws. You have to talk it pretty good. 645 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: So they're going to err on the side of caution. 646 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,439 Speaker 1: Let's put it that way. They're not going to rush 647 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: him back. I know, I'd be stunned if they If 648 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: they bring him back too ston I think if they're 649 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: gonna probably have to put a harness on jail. He's 650 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: gonna say I want to go out there and get going, 651 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: and they may hold him out for another day or 652 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: two after he says, you know, I'm ready to go, 653 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 1: and I bet that will happen. You know, he'll probably 654 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: be saying to the media at some point, I'm ready 655 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: to go. They just won't let me go yet. And 656 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: that's that's what I envision happening. All right, final thing, 657 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: going to circle back to the AFC Championship ring. We 658 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: were so grateful and appreciative to be included on the 659 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: list by the Brown family to receive rings from last year. 660 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 1: Here's my question, how did your grandkids like your AFC 661 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: Championship ring. Yeah, they were, they were very impressed. Uh 662 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: they came up to visit after I had left to 663 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,959 Speaker 1: go down to down to practice the day after, picked 664 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: them up and uh yeah, they they big smiles. They 665 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: were sporting those rings on their on their hand. The 666 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: rings looked pretty big on those little hands, that's for sure, 667 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: look like the TV sit hanging off their hands. But yeah, 668 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: they were. They were like, Wow, this is unbelievable, and 669 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 1: they were pretty excited. About it. Big smiles on the faces. 670 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: That's for sure. That's going to do it. 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