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Speaker 2: Hey everyone, Emily Abadi here. You are listening to episode

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Speaker 2: two hundred and ninety seven of Hurdle, a wellness focused

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Speaker 2: which you can find wherever you get this podcast, we

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Speaker 2: I am catching up with the ever lovely Aaron Azar.

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Speaker 2: that are gonna see whether you showed up or not,

439
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 2: whether it be if you share your workout on Instagram

440
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 2: or if you're using something like Strava. I think subconsciously

441
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 2: all the time, like, oh, this run.

442
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 3: When I go out and do it, it's gonna be

443
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 3: in the world.

444
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 2: People are gonna know that I ran because it's on Strava,

445
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 2: and then I'll be accountable to that. Right if I

446
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 2: don't show up for a week or so, I know

447
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 2: that there are gonna be people like thinking to themselves, what's.

448
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 3: Going on with Emily.

449
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah she hurt herself, okay, which is also very comforting

450
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: as a single woman to be honest.

451
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna be checked on. You know, people are

452
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 3: checking on me if I'm not showing up on Strava.

453
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: I love what you said though about the yoga example

454
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 2: with your sister. For me, for sure, I know that

455
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: I am much more likely to get up and out

456
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 2: if I'm meeting someone if I wasn't really feeling like

457
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 2: it and a girlfriend hits me and says, hey is

458
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: going to go for a run? It for if you

459
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 2: want to join, Like when I Emily choose to go

460
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 2: on a run at four pm. Normally, certainly not, but

461
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: for the social aspect, I could definitely be down.

462
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you find it difficult to find someone that

463
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: runs like you?

464
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 3: So that's a really good question.

465
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: And I bet this is a question that you get

466
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 2: in your DMS because I get it as well. I

467
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 2: think we are our worst enemy when it comes to

468
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 2: this situation. We build it up in our heads like

469
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be fast enough to run with

470
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 2: this person or XYZ. And the reality is what I

471
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 2: find to work is setting a realistic expectation. I'm going

472
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 2: to be like, Hey, this is what I feel comfortable

473
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 2: running today.

474
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 3: How does that sound to you?

475
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 2: And it's up to them to be honest about how

476
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: it sounds to them. I'm not trying to do anything extraordinary.

477
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: Ninety nine point nine percent of the time, I'm just

478
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: going out there to move my body and feel good

479
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: about the fact that I did it. So I am

480
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 2: definitely a person that like does the pre run disclaimer,

481
00:25:59,160 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: what do you do?

482
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 1: I say, like, if someone does ask me to go

483
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: for a run, granted it is very very rare occasion. However,

484
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: if they do, I say, sure, if you're okay with

485
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: like whatever I'm at at that point twelve and a

486
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: half minutes per mile around that, I'm totally fine.

487
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 3: If they're like, oh, that's like so slow, it might actually,

488
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 3: you know, like hurt me. So like, you know, no

489
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 3: hard feelings.

490
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: And if someone's like, hey, I'm running nine and a

491
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: half misses per mile, I'd probably say you find someone else.

492
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: I love you, but it's not I won't even be

493
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: able to socialize because that's not you know, a comfortable

494
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 1: pace for me right now.

495
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, and like not having yilt about that, like

496
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 2: that justn't me and that your value shifts at all,

497
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: It just means that that's not the right pairing for

498
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: the day. I'm laughing because this makes me think about

499
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 2: a good friend of mine who asked me if I

500
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: wanted to run the New York Marathon with her this

501
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: fall quote unquote party and I said, well, like your

502
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 2: pace or mine, because like my party pace is like

503
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 2: a legit party, like all the hugs.

504
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 3: We might do this like hel base.

505
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 2: I don't even know, Like I don't even have a

506
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 2: time to throw at it. I'm literally like not looking

507
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 2: at my watch if you're telling me this is a

508
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: party pace marathon. But if your party base is actually

509
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 2: my pr pace, then that's not going to work for me.

510
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 3: No, No, I totally get that. I absolutely yeah. Okay,

511
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 3: So we have accountability buddies. Those are super helpful.

512
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: We've talked about eliminating the decision fatigue, and we've talked

513
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 2: about just starting. But something else that can be really

514
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 2: epic when it comes to getting out the door and

515
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 2: beginning your run really has to do with your why.

516
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 3: So let's talk a little bit about.

517
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 2: Knowing your why and how having an understanding for what

518
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: it is that motivates you can be such a big

519
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 2: game changer.

520
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 3: Where do you sit with this?

521
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, you know, I'm like reflecting on this

522
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: as you were asking that question, and I realized My

523
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: why has changed so much since I started, and I

524
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: haven't even been running that long, so that says a lot.

525
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: I feel like some people get so stuck on a

526
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: why that they feel like they have to attach their

527
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: personality to it and that it can never change. For example,

528
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: mine started because I had just had my third baby

529
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: and I was just feeling like absolute trash mentally and physically.

530
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 3: So my why was just feel better.

531
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: Like I didn't know how to do it, but I

532
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: just wanted to feel better, and that was my.

533
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 3: Why for quite a while.

534
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: And then at this point, my why is like so

535
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: specific because I recently learned that cardio in general is

536
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: not one of the number one preventors of dementia, and

537
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: especially as women, we have increased risk for Alzheimer's, especially

538
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: because of menopause. So sometimes when I'm like, oh, I

539
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: don't want to, I don't feel like, I'm like, do

540
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: you want Alzheimer's like I have? Like I'm like because

541
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: and you know what, like seeing my daddy has Parkinson's,

542
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: which is another neurological factor that cardio and exercise in

543
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: general I think can prevent. So I mean, I'm forty now,

544
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: so I feel like I need to be I need

545
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: to be looking at prevention of things.

546
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 3: So that's like sometimes you know, that's that's all the

547
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: why I need.

548
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: I like learn about, you know, the health benefits and

549
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: it'll get me out the door. Last year I would

550
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,239
Speaker 1: say all mental health. I'm like, I'm stressed, and it

551
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: makes me not stressed, and that's my why.

552
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

553
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: So I think it's a very fluid thing depending on

554
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: what you're going through in life. Mine happens to be

555
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: a little dark about preventing neurological disorder in my future.

556
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,239
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, thanks for sharing that.

557
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: I think that when it comes to prevent it's not

558
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: something that a lot of people are thinking about first

559
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: and foremost. So to hear that this is what's top

560
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: of mind for you, it's probably stirring some thoughts in

561
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: the people that are listening to this, because you're right,

562
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: there is essentially nothing that could happen to us that

563
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: isn't lessened by the concept of moving.

564
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,719
Speaker 3: Our body if I said that appropriately.

565
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 2: So, basically, we know that cardiovascular activity has a myriad

566
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: of benefits and can play an important role in lessening

567
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: the percentage of coming down with a number of different

568
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 2: health issues.

569
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 3: Now, for me, my why. I mean, when I started,

570
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: my why was simple.

571
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: It was I wanted to lose weight, and running was

572
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: one of the easiest things for me to try to

573
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: start doing to do that. Now running looks entirely different

574
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: for me than it did ten twelve years ago, and

575
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: my why is rooted, like you in the mental health

576
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: side of things. I want to run because not only

577
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: do I know that it helps me destress, it's my

578
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: opportunity to give back to myself, but I also love

579
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: proving to myself day in and day out of what

580
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: I'm capable of. Even on the days, especially on the

581
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: days where I feel like I'm literally capable of nothing.

582
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 2: I go out for a run and I finish the run,

583
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, wow, you can do this hard thing,

584
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: which means that you can do another hard thing, and

585
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: you can show up to the person that maybe at

586
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: one point or another assisted in you feeling like you

587
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: weren't capable and be like, yes, actually I am, and

588
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: I am good enough, and I don't need you to

589
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 2: tell me that.

590
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 3: So that's why I run. I run because of that.

591
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: It feels good for me to prove to myself day

592
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: in and day out that I can do something that's

593
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: pretty hard most of the time.

594
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: And when you do get through that run and you're like,

595
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: you know, maybe surprised at yourself or whatever that you

596
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: accomplished it, do you find that carrying that momentum like

597
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: into the next run helps you get out again?

598
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 3: Totally?

599
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: This is like that combo about like one habit dominoes

600
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: into another good habit, and et cetera, et cetera. It's like,

601
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: for me, one run that reminds me that I'm capable.

602
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: Then like the next day when I have to show

603
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: up and the runs a little different. Maybe it's like

604
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: a base run and then an interval run, and I

605
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: remember that I can do both.

606
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 3: It's like, wow, I'm multi talented here. I can do

607
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 3: so many things.

608
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 2: And I also think that it's going to this idea

609
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: that every run has a purpose, and sometimes the run's

610
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: purpose isn't ultimately what you thought it would be. Like

611
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: sometimes an interval run, for example, like the purpose of

612
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: the run is to work on getting faster, but what

613
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: ends up happening is maybe it doesn't go as you'd hoped,

614
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: and you emerge from that run and you're like, I

615
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: learned that sometimes I need to give myself grace or

616
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: I was reminded today that like not everything's going to

617
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 2: go to plan and that's okay, right, So, like it

618
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: just takes a big person to be okay with understanding

619
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: that the result of a run may not be what

620
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: you intended, but that doesn't mean that that result isn't valuable.

621
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: Yes, there's so many times speaking of like, you know,

622
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: having motivation to get out the door. I've had things

623
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: like it might be a personal problem or with like

624
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: a person in my life, or maybe a creative roadblock

625
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: that I have and I just like, for the life

626
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: of me, cannot get through it. And I always come

627
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: to the same thing, and it's like, just put your

628
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: shoes on, go for a run, and I just space out,

629
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: like I don't even try and think about it, but

630
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: it always I come to a solution almost every time,

631
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: and it's like that's such a like a motivating thing

632
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: to push me out the doors, Like all right, I

633
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: got this issue, like let's go.

634
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 3: Gid y up, gid y up. Yeah.

635
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: I'm curious what were you doing for yourself in moments

636
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: like that before you had your third child and you

637
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 2: were lacing up and running. How did you deal with

638
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: similar circumstances before this form of activity came into your life.

639
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, unhealthily. Probably, yeah, I think I would try.

640
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: I would usually probably talk to my mom or my

641
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: sister maybe. But I'm also the type of person that

642
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: I internalize a lot and don't want to share it

643
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: with other people until I figure it out myself. Obviously

644
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: I'm different now because I'll just blast anything on the

645
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,479
Speaker 1: Internet and I just don't I just don't care because

646
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: I know someone's going to relate to it. So yeah,

647
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: I think I didn't have like a healthy coping mechanism,

648
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 1: or I was on that like cycle of oh i'm stressed,

649
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: let me have a glass of wine or let me

650
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: have a beer. It took me years to realize that

651
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: gave me an anxiety. Yeah, so that wasn't healthy. And

652
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: I think I like fell into this negative cycle of

653
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: giving my whole self to being a mom. And then

654
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: you're like, well, I just don't have time because you know,

655
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: and you don't have to be a mom, like you

656
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: could have pets, you could have a really demanding job.

657
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: It's like one of those things that you can be

658
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: consumed by and not realize it.

659
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: And I think that's like the dangerous spot that I

660
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: was in. Yeah, totally.

661
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 2: For the person that hears you say I don't have

662
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: enough time, I think it's kind of come up twice

663
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 2: at least. Now, what do you say to that person

664
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 2: when they bop in your DMS? Oh?

665
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's hard because I never want to

666
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: sound condescending because you know, people don't want to hear, well,

667
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 1: what's something that you can cut.

668
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 3: Out of your day? You know what I mean?

669
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: And I'm also not someone that says we all have

670
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: the same twenty four hours, because we don't. We have

671
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: we all have twenty four hours, but they are absolutely

672
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: not the same. So I try and be very delicate

673
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: with that subject. For me, it is that it has

674
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: absolutely set my watch for a five minute walk. That's like,

675
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: if I don't have time, then I'll start to feel

676
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: really good.

677
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 3: As I'm running.

678
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well I'm going to push off you

679
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: know that thing that I actually don't need to do

680
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: that I told myself I have to do. And yeah,

681
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of it is either get

682
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: a little less sleep or take something out that really

683
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: doesn't need to be there. But if you can't do

684
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: any of those just do something like super small, like

685
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: five ten minutes. Yeah, totally start small so that you

686
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: can build on it and find the enjoyment in that

687
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: small amount of time, and then maybe it'll feel more

688
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: accessible to add on from there. I also think it's

689
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: so important to understand two things.

690
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: One that you're worthy of this time with yourself.

691
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: I think so often, especially when we talk about women

692
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: and the caretaking responsibility, we feel as though there are

693
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: so many other things that deserve our time and attention

694
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: and energy before we give any sort of energy or

695
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: attention to ourselves. When in actuality, it is to no

696
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 2: one's surprise that taking care of yourself can actually make

697
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: you be a better person for the other things that

698
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 2: you want to take care of, whether they are living

699
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: or not. And then the second thing to touch on

700
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 2: here is also what I taught a roommate years and

701
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: years ago, the concept of programming in leave time and

702
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: like the.

703
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 3: Buffer after the activity.

704
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: Right, So if you know that you're going to need

705
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: time to change your clothes before you leave and put

706
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 2: on your watch, okay, so make sure when you're thinking

707
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 2: about I'm going to give five minutes to this that

708
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: it's actually probably going to be like I'm going to

709
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: give fifteen minutes to this total, and that way you

710
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: don't feel guilty when that five minutes quote unquote becomes

711
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 2: a little bit longer. So building in the time, making

712
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: an actual like quote unquote meeting with yourself so that

713
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: there is no guilt associated with it if you can

714
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: avoid it.

715
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: That's such a good point about adding the buffers. And

716
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: you know, if you have to put it in your calendar.

717
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: I've done that, Like you said, a meeting with yourself.

718
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: I've blocked time out because then I know I'll stick

719
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: with it. Also, if it's really bad, I had to

720
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: ask myself if I broke my leg right now, I

721
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: would make time to go to the hospital, So you know,

722
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: not like it's as extreme as breaking your leg.

723
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 3: But you can find time.

724
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can totally find time. And I love the

725
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: idea of putting it in your calendar for me because

726
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: I am like a morning exercise person. It's like, I

727
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 2: feel like I never need to book that time with myself.

728
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 3: But if there is a day maybe.

729
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 2: I'm admittedly not feeling the best after a few glasses

730
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: of wine, or I was out late the night before,

731
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: et cetera.

732
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 3: Et cetera.

733
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: So many reasons why you might wake up the next

734
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: day and be like blah, Then I really do that.

735
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: I really do look at the calendar for the day

736
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: and say to myself, I know I'm not going to

737
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 2: have the emotional, mental, physical capacity to get moving before ten,

738
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: When after ten might I be able to plug something

739
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 2: into my routine. And those are the days where that

740
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 2: kindness really comes in handy, Right, It's like, Okay, instead

741
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: of a I don't know X run I had on deck,

742
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 2: today is going to be the day that I go

743
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 2: walk fifteen minutes around the block. And that's fine, right,

744
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: because it only happens so often that I'm coming from

745
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 2: the place where I'm like, this just isn't going to

746
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 2: be the thing that makes me feel good.

747
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, those fifteen minutes of walking

748
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: could feel magical when you really yeah, like after a

749
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: night of a few glasses of wide or whatever, you

750
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: stayed out too late or anything, Oh my gosh, fifteen

751
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: minute walk in the fresh air.

752
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: Is like, gosh, it's been That's been a really big

753
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: rule for me over the past year because I have

754
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: a gym in my building, so I don't necessarily always

755
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: leave if I'm going to work out, So for me,

756
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: if I go to the gym inside, or I have

757
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: one of those, you know, not the best mornings. I

758
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: wake up and I say, before you sit down at

759
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: the desk, rule number one is like, at least walk

760
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 2: around the corner and get a coffee or get outside

761
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: and get some air. Regardless of what's happening with the weather.

762
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 2: You can make it around the corner literally a three

763
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: minute walk to just get that on your skin, and

764
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: you will be so much better for it.

765
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's such a good point. I'm so used to

766
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: being outside all the time because because of where we

767
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,479
Speaker 1: live that when I travel and there's like a work trip,

768
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 1: it's probably going to be in a city. And after

769
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: a day, I'm like, oh my gosh, why do I

770
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: feel like this, Like I'm so tired of so this,

771
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: And now I'm like, oh, I just have to go outside.

772
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

773
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm not used to being outside of the city, Like

774
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to do outside.

775
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: I love that.

776
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 2: And then something else that can be really helpful. We

777
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 2: talked about the benefit of community, whether it's in person

778
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: or digitally. Do you have any like motivating playlists or

779
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: podcasts that you listen to regularly that like kind of

780
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: help you garner the inspiration when you're just feeling a

781
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 2: little bit blah.

782
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: You know, what I started doing recently is because I'm

783
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: somebody that is physically energized by music, and I think

784
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: my playlist on Spotify is like I think it's missus

785
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: space Cadet runs, so I will use music while I'm

786
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: running to give me energy. But what I started to

787
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: do is play my playlist like before I even get

788
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: ready and I'm in that wead like, oh my gosh,

789
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: I just I don't feel like it all. It's so

790
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: easy to just hit play and the music will be

791
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: like it'll motivate me and give me the energy to

792
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: be like all right, here we go.

793
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 3: We're doing this.

794
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely music and I this is embarrassing, but

795
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: I don't care. I listen to my own podcast because I,

796
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: for some reason cannot remember what we talked about, so

797
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: it's almost like I'm listening to somebody else, which I

798
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: probably should get that checked out.

799
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 3: And the other thing is I don't have one right now.

800
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: But sometimes you come across like a binge able podcast

801
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: that's like almost guilty Pleasure, you know, like one of

802
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: those storyline type podcasts, And so I'll tell myself, like,

803
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: you can only listen to this if you are like

804
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: walking or running, and so that'll to motivate me because

805
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, I have to find out

806
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: what happened in like XYZ story, and that alone sometimes

807
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:07,959
Speaker 1: just gets me out.

808
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 3: That alone, I love.

809
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: A story like podcast, like a podcast like series that

810
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: has like four or five episodes and you can like

811
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: really learn something over time. I know, I like jokingly

812
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: mentioned Oprah when we were talking about the opportunity to

813
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 2: like throw sneakers at people. But there was a series

814
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: called Making Oprah from NPR, and I remember that. I

815
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 2: was like one day driving somewhere, which I don't drive often,

816
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: so I forget where I was.

817
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 3: I was going to Rhode Island.

818
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 2: I'd rented a car, and I thought to myself, I

819
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: have no idea how Oprah became Oprah, and so like

820
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 2: I googled, and sure enough, there was an MPR series

821
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: called Making Oprah, and I learned her whole.

822
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 3: Story over the course of five days.

823
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: And I was listening to it in the car and

824
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: listening to it running, and it really does make the

825
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 2: miles go by and the time go by a lot faster.

826
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

827
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: I know there's some people that don't listen to anything

828
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: and they're like, I need to focus on my form

829
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: and my cadence and you.

830
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 3: Know all of that.

831
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I just want to get the run

832
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: over with a lot of the times. And this is

833
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 1: like my you know, like you mentioned before me time,

834
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: like my like guilt free me time.

835
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to enjoy it, you know. Yeah, totally.

836
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: I love your recommendation for playing the running playlist before

837
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: you get out there to really hype up. I feel like,

838
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 2: now there's a really good opportunity for like the pre

839
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 2: run mix. Yeah, I'm going to have to start compiling

840
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: a Spotify we can collaborate on that.

841
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love that idea.

842
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 2: Okay, we have given the hurdlers so many good tips

843
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 2: here when it comes to getting out on the run.

844
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: Is there anything else that comes to mind before we

845
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: really wind down when we think about hacks for lacing

846
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: up and making things just a little bit easier.

847
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 3: I focus on fun personally.

848
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: I you know, my run hack is I always joke like, oh,

849
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: I listened to classical music and pretend I'm late for

850
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 1: the ball, but you don't necessarily like have to pretend

851
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: you're late for a ball. But sometimes cinematic music like

852
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: that you'd hear in a movie, and if you have

853
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 1: a really good imagination, which is good for your brain.

854
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: So always use your imagination, and you can imagine like

855
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: a scenario like maybe you're like running through city blocks

856
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: and like someone's you know, the back guy is behind you,

857
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: and like at every corner you have to like go

858
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: faster or something. It's really fun at the end of

859
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: a run when you can like you know, you have

860
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: to maybe go faster or those type of fun things

861
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 1: are my favorite hacks.

862
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 3: Aaron is in a Marvel movie.

863
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: Every time she's out for a run, that's one hundred

864
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: percent what's going on inside of her mind. I do

865
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: use music to have some fun sometimes, and that I

866
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: have the same songs repeated on the playlist at different times,

867
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: and so that means that every I don't know, if

868
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 2: I'm going on a long run and a song comes

869
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: on every forty five minutes, it's like my like superhero

870
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: pump up song, which means like, okay, get out of

871
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 2: your head, run faster this song, and then I realize

872
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: that it feels easier again when you were kind of

873
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: talking yourself down before that came on.

874
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 3: So there are a lot of different tricks and tips

875
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 3: you can use.

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Speaker 2: Another one that I love that has to do with

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Speaker 2: music is if I have to do the run inside

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Speaker 2: because of whether or timing or whatever, I treat it

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Speaker 2: like a power hour. So that means that every minute

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Speaker 2: on the minute, I'll change the song on my headphones

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Speaker 2: and it goes to a new song, and that makes

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Speaker 2: the time go a lot faster. I really like that,

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Speaker 2: minus the drinking, of course, unless we're talking like an

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Speaker 2: electrolyte beverage.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, no beer in the treadmill power hour. No disclaimer, disclaimer.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. Well, so many great tips in here.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely love this conversation, and I love the opportunity,

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Speaker 2: as always to chat with you before I let you

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Speaker 2: go today, talk to me about what you're excited about

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Speaker 2: right now, what's on deck for Aaron in the months

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Speaker 2: to come.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited for Boston Marathon weekend. I'll be there doing events,

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Speaker 1: cheering people on. Like my favorite thing to do is

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Speaker 1: just like hype people up during their races. So I'm

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Speaker 1: excited for that and I'm excited that the weather is

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Speaker 1: warming up and I'm ramping up my miles. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to take these run hacks and put them

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Speaker 1: to practice.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Well, I will check in with you and we'll make

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Speaker 2: sure to list some of the places you're going to

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Speaker 2: be Boston weekend in the show notes, so if you're

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Speaker 2: listening to this and you're going to be local, we

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Speaker 2: can all sync up. And then, on that note, for

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Speaker 2: those that might not follow you just yet on social media,

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Speaker 2: give us your info.

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Speaker 3: How do they keep up with you? Erin on TikTok

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Speaker 3: and Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, it's easier to just type in Aaron asar Azar

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Speaker 1: because you know Instagram, I miss a space cadet.

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Speaker 3: People must spell it.

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Speaker 1: So Aaron asar And also my podcast non members only.

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Speaker 1: If you feel like hanging out with friends for a

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Speaker 1: lighthearted conversation, but you don't want to physically hang out

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Speaker 1: with friends, just come listen to us for an hour.

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Speaker 3: She's got your back.

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Speaker 2: I'm over at Emily's Body and at Hurdle Podcasts. Another

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Speaker 2: Hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.