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Speaker 2: Boutlet Cap Podcast, bout Let Cap Show Jaminary five seven.

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Speaker 2: We in San Diego backstage at SeaWorld with my brother

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Speaker 2: Paul Wall Baby. Of course you've been doing a lot

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Speaker 2: of these, these SeaWorld shows, be going crazy, but.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, many went viral.

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Speaker 2: People camping out on the on the island looking at

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Speaker 2: him from behind.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy, man, that's crazy. It's a dope experience. First

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Speaker 3: of all, you know, we've been in the game for

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Speaker 3: a long time, me and a lot of the other

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Speaker 3: artists for performing sea World. So when you come here,

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Speaker 3: it's a family a venue SeaWorld. You could bring your kids.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's not gonna be nothing crazy. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be a great show. And of course we're

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Speaker 3: on the water. The weather's great. You can make a

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Speaker 1: Out of it. So it's really dark.

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Speaker 3: I wish, you know, I could have went to shows

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Speaker 3: like this when I was a kid. And it brings

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Speaker 3: me back to when we had Astra World. They had

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Speaker 3: Astra World Concerts series in Houston, like New Edition. People

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Speaker 3: like that will come perform at ash World and it's like, man,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's something that has been missing for a

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Speaker 3: while I'm glad they brought it back here one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: You know, you are a part of like making a

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Speaker 2: lot of things mainstream and hip hop. Early on, obviously

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Speaker 2: grills would be the main thing, and it's something that's

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Speaker 2: kind of stood the test of time in terms of

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Speaker 2: just like I mean, people are not getting perms, you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, did you ever is

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Speaker 2: your permanent?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, you pop them out.

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Speaker 1: I changed them out every day of the week, depending

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Speaker 1: on watch I'm wearing.

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Speaker 2: And even just like you know, obviously shout out to

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Speaker 2: DJ Screw, but like I think of like a whole

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Speaker 2: entire other generation that was like they came up on

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Speaker 2: the Michael five thousand watch tapes and it's the Chopping

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Speaker 2: Screw version of people's champ and all of those remnants.

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Speaker 2: You're still hearing people's albums, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like you get your flowers for the

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Speaker 2: influence you've had just on like hip hop culture, because you,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's still there.

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Speaker 3: I mean I do definitely some, but not really. But

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Speaker 3: I mean I got allergies, so I ain't looking for

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Speaker 3: the flowers. Yeah, I'm saying I mean, you know, I

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Speaker 3: really don't do it for that, especially like when it

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Speaker 3: comes to the grills, I kind of get forgotten or

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Speaker 3: left out of the conversation.

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Speaker 1: But that's fine. I didn't do it for me.

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Speaker 3: It's for my partner, my boy Johnny, you know, and

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Speaker 3: he definitely get to shine.

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Speaker 1: And that's what it's all about. Man.

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Speaker 3: I think about, you know, me selling grills and all

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Speaker 3: the people I sold grills to it a different style

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Speaker 1: Or how far we took it.

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Speaker 3: But it was a team effort of me and Johnny,

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Speaker 3: and that's part of why. Like you know, there were

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Speaker 3: occasions early on, like when I was in my prime,

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Speaker 3: and Johnny's it should it be Paul Wall's Grills. And

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Speaker 3: I always felt like, you know, if it's too associated

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Speaker 2: Ups and downs of the industry for his career, maybe

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Speaker 2: you're indo catching a beef with somebody, Like.

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Speaker 1: I don't want that. I don't want that to affect that,

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Speaker 3: Let let the grills be its own thing and just

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Speaker 3: to see Johnny's vision two for a lot of this.

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Speaker 3: You know, I kind of have a you know, certain visions,

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Speaker 3: but Johnny will see like a grandiose.

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Speaker 1: Thing, like even at the store how it is now.

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Speaker 3: I was absolutely cool having the kiowskin them all right,

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Speaker 3: or having you know, linoleum tile floors, and Johnny like, nah,

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Speaker 3: we need a Usati molding crown mode, you know, Johnny.

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Speaker 3: So Johnny will see a vision sometimes that maybe I

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Speaker 1: Hey Johnny, I'm trying to link with this rapper. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So it's been great.

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Speaker 2: You I feel like peak, you know, let's say two

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Speaker 2: the craziest call you get where someone's in town? Is

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Speaker 2: there like a crazy like, Okay, I got to take

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Speaker 2: this person into the shop. It's two in the morning,

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Speaker 2: give me the crazy. The craziest grill shopping escapade you

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Speaker 2: had to go on because you were the guy back then.

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Speaker 2: Now people will call Johnny, Yeah, but back then they're

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Speaker 2: calling Paul. They're like, Yo, Paul, I'm in Houston. What

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Speaker 3: There's definitely a few, you know, Venus and Serena Williams,

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Speaker 3: But when you get some of these athletes, especially like

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Speaker 1: Serena Serena Williams all time.

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Speaker 3: You know, that's that's awesome to be able to facilitate that,

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Speaker 3: to make her a grill. Now she wants a grill.

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Speaker 3: She can get good from anybody in the world, but

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Speaker 3: to one for me, you know, it's like very huge honor.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I think maybe Kanye West. Kanye West

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Speaker 3: is definitely one of the grill escapades where it started

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Speaker 2: Did you have to mold them?

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Speaker 3: I did his mold in New York at a King

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Speaker 3: it was a room full of who's who were people

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Speaker 3: And you know, he walks in and it's a very

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Speaker 3: He's like, man, it's supposed to be a hip hop event, man, and.

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Speaker 1: Where's the where's the ciphers at with a hip hop?

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Speaker 1: There's a hip hop?

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Speaker 2: And where's a hip hop?

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Speaker 3: He busts out with a freestyle, and of course he's

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Speaker 2: Not after between the two years.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so he definitely was the man.

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Speaker 3: But it's not like where he is now that the

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Speaker 3: and then that's it. Everybody is just in awe and

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Speaker 3: He's like, man, I'm trying to kick a cipher off. Man,

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Speaker 3: nobody gonna back door.

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Speaker 1: Man. I'm you know, of course, I'm.

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Speaker 3: I come out with my freestyle and like, okay, you know,

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Speaker 3: of course there's a little camaraderie there, the hip hop camaraderie,

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Speaker 3: and then you know, we're go and have a little

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Speaker 3: side conversation about the grills and a few other things,

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Speaker 3: and he's like, hey, you know, I like your grills,

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Speaker 3: this and that him as well as don see a

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Speaker 3: few of the other people that are with him. And

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Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, look, I got the grill modes right

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Speaker 1: We can do this right here. Now, come on, let

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Speaker 1: me get your mold. And I was on the way

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: It came back to Houston and he said, you know, hey,

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Speaker 3: I'm coming to Houston soon to perform with the Scarface

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Speaker 3: at the Texas Beach Party, which is the Capple Beach Party,

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Speaker 3: last Capple Beach Party there ever was in Galveston, and

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Speaker 3: you know, he was coming down there in a few

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Speaker 3: weeks to perform at that. So we made his grills,

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Speaker 3: and you know, after he performs at the beach party,

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Speaker 3: he's at Mike Dean's house in Houston. Is big shout

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Speaker 3: out Mike Dean and he's like, Okay, you know, bring

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Speaker 1: It's like three in the morning, four in the morning.

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Speaker 3: They're mixing Diamonds off Forever Diamonds from Cleon And now,

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Speaker 3: I've been in a lot of studio sessions with a

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Speaker 3: extremely unique, and I've never been in a situation like

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Speaker 3: this where you know, you got Mike Dean, perhaps the

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Speaker 3: greatest engineer mixer.

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Speaker 1: Of all time.

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Speaker 2: He's in the combo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's in.

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Speaker 3: There like doing changing this and that, and Kanye West

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Speaker 1: I personally we heard it about one hundred times that night,

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Speaker 1: and we were at the end of the mixing session.

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Speaker 3: So just seeing them do all of that, like, and

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Speaker 3: And I'm just like me and good were like, man,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what they talking about, but I need

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Speaker 2: And one of my things, I was going to say,

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Speaker 1: And you know, eventually he's like, hey, I seen.

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Speaker 3: It goes because I just appreciate the opportunity, you know

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's in there. He was downstairs recording the song

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Speaker 2: Yeah, major, we major. It was the one with the game.

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Speaker 2: But what was the name of the one on? But

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I don't even remember. It's all like a

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Speaker 3: And then I go upstairs lay my verse and he's like,

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Speaker 1: And yeah, and I'll never forget.

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Speaker 3: Get taken off, and then you look like a fool

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Speaker 3: to be album pubby. Yeah, I'm I'm on, I'm on it,

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Speaker 2: So you guys do the video and then the video

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Speaker 2: I'm super mad that that's not on a CD somewhere,

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Speaker 1: This year? Was it?

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Speaker 2: Earlier? This year we lost Michael Watts, who obviously a legend,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, can you just speak to Michael Wats because

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Speaker 3: Part of it is because I think Switsher House as

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Speaker 1: Texts music did Man, he definitely deserves a lot of credits.

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Speaker 3: You know, there were definitely signs because he was in

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Speaker 3: he did for me. I mean, I can't imagine how

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, rest in peace. Such a legend. When you

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Speaker 2: And I just remember like the Mike Jones album and

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00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,240
Speaker 2: your album the Posters being everywhere.

437
00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:30,119
Speaker 1: Yeah.

438
00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,520
Speaker 2: But when you think about that class, like you said earlier,

439
00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:38,160
Speaker 2: make a millionaire yourself, slim thug Mike Jones, When you're

440
00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,280
Speaker 2: in the middle of that and you kind of you know,

441
00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,960
Speaker 2: the Source magazine cover happens, and there's so much, so

442
00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,480
Speaker 2: much commercial crossover happens, do you kind of feel like

443
00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,560
Speaker 2: you're you're do you know that you're in the middle

444
00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,880
Speaker 2: of like a historical run for your city, like cause

445
00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,840
Speaker 2: it or because sometimes we're living this shit so we

446
00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,560
Speaker 2: don't have to take time to kind of breathe.

447
00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,639
Speaker 3: And kind of I remember when we performed still Tipping

448
00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,520
Speaker 3: on one O six in part and we're walking to

449
00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,600
Speaker 3: the stage, and this is like a key moment where

450
00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,760
Speaker 3: it like it's like notched in my mind of Slimp

451
00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,920
Speaker 3: the you know, saying, hey man, we on one O

452
00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,880
Speaker 3: six in Park Bro, we made it. Now I remember

453
00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,560
Speaker 3: all the other times I thought I made it. The

454
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,240
Speaker 3: first time I ever heard myself on the radio, which

455
00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,000
Speaker 3: is me and come in or did a freestyle with

456
00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,480
Speaker 3: Michael Michael Wats was actually rapping. This is the first

457
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,520
Speaker 3: time he ever wrapped on the mixtape.

458
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:28,080
Speaker 1: We we did.

459
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,439
Speaker 3: We did an intro for his radio show and he

460
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,760
Speaker 3: would play it before his mix when he would mixed.

461
00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,200
Speaker 3: But Mad had her track to the box, Yeah, shout

462
00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,359
Speaker 3: out to the box. Mad had he had the after

463
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,920
Speaker 3: Michael Wats would do the nighttime. Now Mad had her

464
00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,520
Speaker 3: did the afternoon so at.

465
00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,320
Speaker 2: So he played he did? Did he play that version

466
00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,679
Speaker 2: of his sound different?

467
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,119
Speaker 1: Now Man had her played it? Because Wats was on

468
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:53,720
Speaker 1: there rapping.

469
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,840
Speaker 3: But still I remember taking my god sister Nina and

470
00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,440
Speaker 3: she went to Prayerview and we were in the car

471
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Speaker 3: and antoin on in wes Lily, York, and I was

472
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 3: We're on the way to Prayer of You and I

473
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:08,439
Speaker 3: remember hearing it on the radio, like, man, that's that's me.

474
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 2: I'm on the radio.

475
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 3: This is crazy, uh, you know, and I remember feeling

476
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 3: like I made it, but it was so fleeting, because

477
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,159
Speaker 3: you know, the feeling went away, and then it's like

478
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:18,920
Speaker 3: I called here You're a man the radio.

479
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,080
Speaker 1: Nope, ain't here. You're a man. Readio, Nope, ain't here.

480
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:21,960
Speaker 1: You lying, you ain't on.

481
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 3: It's like, man, I was on the radio, but nobody knows,

482
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 3: you know. So I remember thinking how that when is

483
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,440
Speaker 3: this gonna happen again? And uh and then you know,

484
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,880
Speaker 3: I remember when we signed a deal with mad had

485
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Speaker 3: it later on and our song and Love with My Money.

486
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Speaker 2: Became b Yeah, that's a big record.

487
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 3: They played the hell out of that on the radio,

488
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 3: and that was another time where it's like, Okay, we

489
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Speaker 3: made it, you know. And then I mean, even through

490
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Speaker 3: all this time, we do sold our shows. We'd have

491
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Speaker 3: you know, meet and grease where the lines are out

492
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493
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494
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we should have had all We should have

495
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Speaker 3: had some brandy ones and we were at a time.

496
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497
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498
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500
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507
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514
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Speaker 2: get back to the podcast. Do you look back at

515
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 2: do you ever think about like the kind of the

516
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 2: what if about you and Chamellionaire and like what like

517
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously everybody ended up doing really well. Yeah, everybody.

518
00:21:58,640 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 2: I mean, he's man, bro.

519
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 3: At the time I was, I was more than happy.

520
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 3: I never saw a vision from my own success. I

521
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 3: never saw that. It really honestly took T Ferris telling

522
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 3: me when me and come in go on separate ways.

523
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 3: T Fairs telling me, hey, Bro, I feel it in

524
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 3: my heart. Your best days are in front of you.

525
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 3: They're not behind you. You got a ceilings up here.

526
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 3: You think you're ceiling here. Your ceiling is up here.

527
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 3: You just got to keep going. And him giving He's

528
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 3: a T. Fairs, the first person ever in my life

529
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 3: that believed in me.

530
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 1: They really gave.

531
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Speaker 2: Me Megan for sore.

532
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 3: But you know, with come in there, I was more

533
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 3: than happy being in a duo where on the sidekick

534
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 3: or I'm getting pressures on you guys right absolutely, and

535
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And it was amazing to

536
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 3: have that run with somebody that I grew up with

537
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 3: my whole life. I grew up with him, you know,

538
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 3: So my first time in the studio, first time on stage,

539
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,439
Speaker 3: first time freestyling at school lunch table and on the

540
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 3: bus was all with command there, So you know, to

541
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 3: be able to see the ascension and rise with him

542
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 3: was something that was like, for sure, a dream come true.

543
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 3: And I never saw beyond that, but Comedian saw beyond that,

544
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 3: and other people saw beyond that. And so when we

545
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 3: you know, and I also think about how it is

546
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 3: like what we were.

547
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 1: Coman has always been business minded, like.

548
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, and for me, I always felt like I wasn't

549
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 3: worthy enough to belong, so I didn't expect it and

550
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 3: I didn't think that I was old any of this

551
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 3: or so, you know, whenever I got a check, I

552
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 3: always felt like I was scamming somebody to get to check,

553
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 3: because it was like, yeah, are you sure it's supposed

554
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 3: to be my check? I don't know that.

555
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm just happy with whatever I would get.

556
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 3: I was more than happy with that, but Comean was like, nah,

557
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 3: no matter what we're getting, they still screwing us over.

558
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 3: And no matter how, no matter how much you know,

559
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 3: if like macaolm me saying, somebody put the knife in

560
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 3: your nine inches and they pull it out too, you know.

561
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: So that's command mind frame was like, nah, I don't matter.

562
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 3: It don't matter if they're paying us more crumbs than

563
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 3: the next artist. We're still getting crumbs and this is

564
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 3: not how it should be. And he's always had that vision,

565
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 3: so you know it it really honestly, it took us

566
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 3: going our separate ways for me to be able to,

567
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: you know, become the written Paul Wall, you know, as

568
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 3: much as I have been.

569
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: You know, you remember the first time you guys were

570
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 2: able to kind of have like the years later convo

571
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 2: and like.

572
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: Just oh yeah, absolutely, like man.

573
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you was right. You know, A.

574
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Speaker 1: Big shout out to Pemse and E forty.

575
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 3: Those are the only two people the period were like

576
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 3: from start to finish. They were like, y'all tripping, y'all tripping, y'all,

577
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 3: y'all not seeing a big picture, y'all not seeing a

578
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 3: big picture with the money that you're missing that you

579
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 3: could be making right now that you're not gonna be

580
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 3: able to make tomorrow. You can make it today, you

581
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 3: can't make it tomorrow, right and your mind you're thinking

582
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 3: you can always get back together and it's gonna pick

583
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 3: up where it left off. That's not how it worked, right.

584
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 3: Sometimes it can work like that, but it's not. It's

585
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 3: not guaranteed. And they also saw what we represented for

586
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 3: who we represented for.

587
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 1: You know, the city. That's also why when we had

588
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 1: our problems, our beefs, it never went too far because.

589
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 2: We got ugly. Sometimes the Houston beef in general can get.

590
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 3: Like yeah yeah, but with me and him both, we didn't.

591
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 3: You know, we grew up with each other, We know

592
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 3: each other's families. We didn't want to like, I'm not

593
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 3: putting all that whatever, he's not putting all that out there.

594
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 1: And we also see who we're doing this for. If

595
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: we get.

596
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 3: Ugly like that, it's just gonna make us all look bad.

597
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 3: And we just didn't want to do that, you know

598
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So that that helped, you know, us

599
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 3: not get too crazy out of there.

600
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: But PEMC when he.

601
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 3: When PEMC put us on the song, and while in

602
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 3: that Cooper still ain't talking, you know, and that that's

603
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: when people already were like, man, we all gonna get

604
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 3: back together this and that he says and it's the

605
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 3: number one song on the radio everybody and you're in

606
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 3: the club and you hearing it there, it's like, oh

607
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 3: my god, you know. And then of course when Pemcy passed,

608
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 3: that really put it in the perspective where we felt like,

609
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 3: this is something we owe to him, and we owe

610
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 3: it to ourselves, you know, because we we at the

611
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 3: end of the day, we we grew up, we're brothers,

612
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 3: we're friends, so we we owed it to ourselves as well,

613
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 3: but we owed it to him. And again, like I said,

614
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 3: forty two, E forty was from day one, was like

615
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 3: y'all tripping man, is that.

616
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 2: A phone call thing? Or are you guys in person? Both?

617
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: Yeah? Both? You know. E forty was a big bro

618
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: to us.

619
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 3: For a long time, from the very beginning. My bro

620
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 3: Sea Dog and Dallas was good friends still, you know

621
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 3: with E forty, so he would always you know, hey, man,

622
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna i'a plug you E forty many gonna get

623
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 3: some game and the forty being an independent pioneer that

624
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 3: he is, and he would just give us so much

625
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 3: game advice, whatever. And then you know, same with PIMC

626
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 3: and I. You know, there was times where you know,

627
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 3: I used to write PEMC when he was in jail

628
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 3: and h you know, but when he's out of jail

629
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 3: and I remember bumping into him at the airport one

630
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 3: time and we.

631
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: Have a crazy conversation.

632
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,719
Speaker 3: Crazy, I mean crazy in terms of long, a long

633
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 3: conversation just about me and come in here, like, man,

634
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 3: it was up this bullshit even come in you know, man,

635
00:26:59,359 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: y'all tripping.

636
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: I told him the same thing. I'm telling him to

637
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: tell you the same thing I told him.

638
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 3: Y'all tripping. And you know, there's definitely fun conversation. But

639
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 3: when you in person looking you know, the person you

640
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 3: looked up to, admired, you know, your whole rap career

641
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 3: or as a child.

642
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: This is somebody I looked at to my.

643
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 2: Whole When when you and him have that first congo,

644
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 2: is it in person?

645
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 3: It's in person, and you know, of course this is

646
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 3: like nah, you don't get it. You don't know, you know,

647
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 3: And he was just like, man, you think me and

648
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: bunn ain't never had no problems. You think what you

649
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 3: know whatever, like man, you tripping? Man, you tripping paw

650
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 3: awhile and he telling coman or the same thing. But

651
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 3: it's just not you know, sometimes you gotta plan to

652
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: seed and let grow. So you gotta put the cookies.

653
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: In the oven and let it bake, you know what

654
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

655
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 3: So we just we let the cookies bake a little

656
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 3: bit and then when it's when it's time, you know.

657
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 3: And I think that the major catalyst was Pency passing

658
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 3: because we definitely felt like we owed that to him

659
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 3: and we felt like he would be proud of us

660
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 3: that we buried the hatch.

661
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: It there's this legendary source cover with everybody from Houston

662
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: on it. I mean it was it was special. Yeah,

663
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: that was But could you kind of walk me through

664
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: what was that shoot?

665
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: Like?

666
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 2: Was there any any funk? I mean, there are some

667
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: people on that cover that did not function with you.

668
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: There definitely was.

669
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: I wasn't on the cover, man, you were? How you well,

670
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: you know, how did you not end up on that cover?

671
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: Well?

672
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: A few reasons, I'm you know, honestly, at that time,

673
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 3: I had something already planned going on with Double XL

674
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: same day, same time everything where they're like, hey, we're coming.

675
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: It was like the All Star the super Bowl something.

676
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: Everything was in Houston.

677
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, someone's going on in Houston and.

678
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 2: They actually had to ask you to be on the cover.

679
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: Well they did, but they're like, hey, we're doing it,

680
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 3: you know, Tuesday at five, Well Tuesday five, I'm already

681
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 3: doing something with Double XL And I just felt like

682
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 3: I can't tell them no.

683
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: And youl by yourself, right, Man?

684
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: I was the only cover ever was on was Murder

685
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: Dog and Ozone.

686
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

687
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 3: So I don't know if maybe I should have Maybe

688
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 3: I should have said he double, I ain't gonna make it.

689
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go.

690
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: I remember the Double XCEL article. I think you had

691
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: a red on. If I'm not tripping, I have a

692
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: bunch of vintage double sales in the studio.

693
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: I mean that's what Atlantic Records was definitely pissed at me.

694
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: They were like, man, you're gonna be on the cover.

695
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: But I also you know, I mean honestly, I felt

696
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 3: a little disrespected. If it was any other region, if

697
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 3: it was New York, would you say, hey, we're gonna

698
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 3: do a New York cover. We're gonna do a New

699
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 3: York cover with everybody. No, they're gonna give each one

700
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 3: of those artists their own cover. I mean, you look

701
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: at all of us, the only time any of us

702
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 3: were on the cover other than like Squarat Face in

703
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: the group Come In There was definitely worthy of being

704
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 3: on his own stone cover. Slim Tub was worthy of

705
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 3: his own cover, same as Mike Jones, as Little Flip,

706
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 3: as Zero, anybody else that was on the cover. And

707
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 3: I just felt like, man, this is their way to

708
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: do us all at once, right, And it's like and

709
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: I also felt like, you know, I mean, we got

710
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 3: problems with each other, and the way it was told

711
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: to me was, man, I know there's some people that

712
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: we don't get along, but we're just gonna go We're

713
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 3: gonna just go.

714
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: Do the We're gonna do the picture and leave. We

715
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: ain't gotta speak to each other and leave it. And

716
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, nah, I got an issue.

717
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: I want to I want to talk this out, you know,

718
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: like and then sometimes it'll be like, well, you know,

719
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 3: Jake Prince got the boxing ring, and I'm like, well,

720
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: well what if I mean, look, I definitely could box,

721
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 3: but what if I came box, well and I just

722
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 3: got to get bullied.

723
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: But I could get my ass whoop and.

724
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 3: I could get messed up, you know, Like, so you know,

725
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 3: I just I just felt like that for me, that

726
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: wasn't for me. And you know, I'm very happy and

727
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 3: proud that they did because Slim Thug and Zero at

728
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 3: the time they had huge issues.

729
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 1: They both had.

730
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: Said some I think helped squash that too.

731
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 3: He did squashed a lot of the big squash did

732
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 3: the Big squashy. But but at that at that you know,

733
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 3: I wasn't there, but as it was told to me,

734
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: was at that photo shoot. Zero and Slim they talked

735
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 3: it out and they buried their hatchet, you know, as

736
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 3: well as some other people that were there.

737
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: They buried their hatchet. You know. So a lot of

738
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: positivity came from that photo shoot.

739
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 3: But you know, and I do think back because it

740
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 3: was so iconic as like, damn, man, what would have been?

741
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 3: And you know, they told me how you know, people

742
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: that were there were like, okay, you know, I'm standing here,

743
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:06,959
Speaker 3: they're standing there.

744
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: Then you see the cover they put them next to

745
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: each other. Anybody, this is beefing. They got them right.

746
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: Next to each other, and it's like, man, I don't know, man,

747
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 3: they like kind of photoshopped it together.

748
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: But you it is what it is, man.

749
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: And even though I didn't, you know, I didn't get

750
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 3: on the double xl Okay, it wasn't for that, it was.

751
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm already doing something. Yeah, it's all good man.

752
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: Shout out to Raffi Law Group our family. Yes, it's

753
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: been so dope to partner with, you know, such a

754
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Speaker 2: name and brand and somebody who I actually am a

755
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: customer of. Shout out to Raffi Law Group, man Arizona's

756
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: premier personal injury law firm. And I don't just put

757
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: my name on anybody when we do this stuff on

758
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: the Bootleg cap podcast and you see it's partnering with brands.

759
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 2: We're very selective about who we connect with. And Raffi

760
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: is someone who's actually helped my family, helped my wife

761
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Speaker 2: get a settlement, all right, has helped over seventy thousand

762
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Speaker 2: people in Arizona. No matter what happens, Man, car accident, crash, injury,

763
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764
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Speaker 2: whatever it is, Raffi Law Group makes the process less stressful.

765
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Speaker 2: They put money in your pocket. Yes, the name you

766
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767
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768
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769
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: three three eight eight four three three three and want

770
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Speaker 2: to wish a big happy birthday to Raffi's just celebrated

771
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: his fortieth birthday. We had a good time in Vegas.

772
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: Fifty cent was there, pauly D was there, mad Rich

773
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Speaker 2: was there. E c Rock was there. It was a movie,

774
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: all right, Secretary of State was there. We were just

775
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: hanging out, Man show. Look shout out to Brandon Raffi.

776
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,880
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777
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778
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Speaker 2: accident or you get into any sort of injury situation,

779
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780
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: back to the podcast. It's been twenty years, twenty one

781
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: years since people shit, wow, twenty one years. Crazy crazy.

782
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: How often do you I mean, obviously you have to

783
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: perform some of the albums. Yeah, would you ever just

784
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: revisit and just throw it on it? Just not the

785
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: time machine.

786
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: I actually don't.

787
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: I really don't listen to any of my music because

788
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: I'm always working on new music.

789
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: I only listen.

790
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 3: You are very very active, yes, yes, on the indies,

791
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 3: multiple albums a year, absolutely.

792
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: A lot of them are under the radar.

793
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 3: With Static Yeah, yes, man, big shoutout real Static, Yes,

794
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: big shoutout bum Bee, all the stuff I got with Terminology,

795
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: the stuff I got with Baby Bash, stuff I got

796
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: with Little Kiki, all my solo albums, the stuff I

797
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 3: got with.

798
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: New artists like The Delivery Boy or whoever. Like Man,

799
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: it's definitely a lot.

800
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: But the only time I listened to my own music

801
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: is one about to shoot the video and then I

802
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 3: remember you just to learn my lyrics.

803
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: But we People's champ though. It's crazy because there's so

804
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: many songs from.

805
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 3: That album that I perform, Like if I got twenty songs,

806
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 3: I performed five of them People's So you know, it

807
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 3: definitely is those are the that's when I listen to

808
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: the people tent when I'm performing.

809
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: What is because a lot of people who are in

810
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: your position might just depend on show money, It might

811
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: not be too active when it comes to putting out

812
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 2: these joint albums and running up the end of catalog

813
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 2: or tapping in with the younger artists. What would you

814
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: kind of say is your main motivation that keeps you

815
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 2: hungry to still be in the studio?

816
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: Man, Man, just my love, my passion for it, you

817
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: know that.

818
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 3: And definitely, you know, dealing with the bs of industry politics,

819
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 3: or when you think you're supposed to get paid and

820
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 3: then you don't and you don't know who's supposed to

821
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 3: pay you, but regardless, you don't get to check right

822
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 3: And you know, you.

823
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: Put your trust in faith in people that will break

824
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: your heart.

825
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 3: The game will just completely break your heart, you know.

826
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: So I've definitely lost my love a few times.

827
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: But you know, I think back to my perspective, this

828
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 3: is still my childhood dream that I pray for every

829
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: day of my life today included you know, to be

830
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 3: able to do this and to you work so hard

831
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 3: to get in a position to do what you want

832
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 3: to do how you want to do it, to just

833
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 3: say no, I ain't doing it no more because I

834
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 3: don't feel like it.

835
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: It's just a waste to me. And I feel like

836
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: I got a lot of bars. Well I got more

837
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 1: bars in.

838
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 3: The criminal justice system, and I just man, you know, Definitely,

839
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 3: my main source of income for a long time was

840
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 3: selling grills. Yeah, and outside of you know, if I

841
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 3: was doing it only for the money, definitely I would

842
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 3: never make music again. It would only be grills because

843
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 3: that's there's a lot of money with that, but that

844
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 3: you know, having that secondary source of income, you know,

845
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 3: allow me to make the kind of music I want

846
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 3: to make, not just me chasing trends or everybody sounded

847
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 3: like this, So I got to sound like this.

848
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: Everybody sounded like that. I gotta sound like that.

849
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 3: I can make the kind of music I want to

850
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 3: make and for the people I want to make it for.

851
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: And I'll hear people that'll be like, man, y'all need

852
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: to bring.

853
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: Back this sound. Y'all need to do this. No more.

854
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody doing this. No, y'all need to do that.

855
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: And I really take it to heart, and it'll make

856
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: me encourage me to all right, I want to make

857
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: music like that. That's the same music I like to

858
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: listen to.

859
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: You have so many, like I guess, like versions of

860
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 2: your career, Like I think back to when there's a

861
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 2: lot of errors. Listen when you get into the pocket

862
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: with Travis Skinhead, Robb you do expensive taste, man, like

863
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: that was a whole thing.

864
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: Bro.

865
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: I'll look back at this as as like my hair

866
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 3: and my beard changes. It's almost like ushering in a

867
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 3: new era of the powwall sound, and I'll look back

868
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 3: at all the different errors.

869
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: When I had the tape of fade, the little patch.

870
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 3: Patch, when I was fade, when I you know, started

871
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: dying my beard, I was getting a little older. When

872
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: I had the food beard, when I had the longs

873
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 3: easy top, when I grew my hair out, when I

874
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: left my grades show all of that. There's a lot

875
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 3: of different eras when I was the big power, when

876
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 3: I was the skinny pow wow.

877
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: You know some of that it makes.

878
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 3: Me think, you know about Luther Van Draws when they

879
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 3: be like, oh, when they used to argue.

880
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: You know, I like the fat Luthor. I like the

881
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 1: skinny Luthor. And it made me like, you know.

882
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 3: Coincide, you know my different errors, and you know, as

883
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 3: an artist, I get to grow.

884
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: But any era that ever was a power whow, I'm

885
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: still powerwaw.

886
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 3: And you're still gonna hear me if I'm rapping with

887
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 3: Travis Barker or if I'm rapping with Status selector or

888
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 3: if I'm with Jill Scott.

889
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: It's gonna always be pa while you here.

890
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 2: And then you catch a platinum song like Johnny Dang

891
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: that just opens you up to a bunch of new fans.

892
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: That grows absolutely, man. You know, and I think back

893
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: to we do a lot of shows. So even before

894
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 3: we did Johnny Dang with that Mexicano team with Drodi Man,

895
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 3: even before that, we were doing a lot of shows.

896
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 3: But you know, when you look in the crowd, it

897
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 3: looks a certain way, a little bit older, you know,

898
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 3: a certain you know, there's certain people in the crowd.

899
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 3: And after that song, now all of a sudden, the

900
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 3: crowd is extremely diverse.

901
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 1: It's younger.

902
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 3: Yes, you can see the you can see the effect

903
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 3: of that, which was crazy. It was a man and

904
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: ushered in a new fan base. To me, first of all,

905
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 3: it made me kind of more established. Oh he ain't

906
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 3: has been he he ain't fall off. Well, he still

907
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 3: got something in the tank. But at the same time,

908
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 3: it allowed me to be introduced to a much younger

909
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 3: fan base, you know, man, big salute to that Mexicano

910
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 3: te man for sure.

911
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: Okay, last two questions. Your favorite Houston album of all

912
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: time that isn't your own.

913
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 3: My favorite album of all time in Houston is Easy

914
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: Dea Screwed for Life, Dea Screwed, Yeah, man, And of

915
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 3: course my second is Little Kicky, don't mess with Texas,

916
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 3: but screw for lif Dea.

917
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: Oh man, I could listen to that front to back.

918
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: I actually, as a DJ, I chopped and screwed it

919
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 3: for Big Hawk before he passed away. Big Hawk, I

920
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 3: don't know exactly what he had to do with releasing

921
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 3: the album, but he had something to do with.

922
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: Releasing the album. And I remember asking him at the

923
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: studio one time, man, how come you ain't got no

924
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: chopping screwed version of that?

925
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 3: And he was like, well, because if DJ screw ain't

926
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 3: gonna do it, he ain't putting it out. And I

927
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 3: was like, hey, I already got a version that I

928
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 3: made for my own listening pleasure. If you want to

929
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 3: put it out, you can, and he released it. A man,

930
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 3: that was amazing to you know, to do that. I

931
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 3: love that album.

932
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 2: And then I want you to put together your mount

933
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 2: rushmore of let's say, oh four to seven of Houston rap.

934
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 2: That your era, your peak era, my era.

935
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 3: I mean, of course I wouldn't put myself. Exclude yourself, Yeah,

936
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 3: exclude myself all this. I mean, it's it's kind of easy.

937
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: It is pretty easy.

938
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 3: I slim thug, you know, come in there, Mike Jones

939
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 3: and then you know, Flip.

940
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: I would maybe put a zero.

941
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 2: Even though heroes around.

942
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 3: And you know, if you if you go back a

943
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 3: little further like a ninety eight ninety nine and then

944
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: not for sure it would include Flip, but you know if.

945
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: Zero going of those, Yeah, most city down is like

946
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: for people who have never partied in Houston. Yeah, it's

947
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 2: like coming to l A and here and YG's DPT

948
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 2: or like it's like 'all dreams and nightmare.

949
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yes, it's like and nightmares. Now.

950
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: My my Mount Rushmore all time would be the Jacker

951
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 3: from the Bay Area would be Rich. The Factor would

952
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: be a little kicky, and Sean Price.

953
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: Hey man, I did not expect Sean Key.

954
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: And if there's a fifth, I put Hustler from the

955
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: Mob figures as well.

956
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 3: But big Guy, oh yeah, yeah, I love the baby

957
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 3: music man the Bait.

958
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 1: The Bay to me is like our twin city from Houston.

959
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 2: Very similar.

960
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: Yes we now we we do.

961
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 3: We're very different, but we're similar but big on a

962
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 3: car culture. We're big on our car culture where if

963
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 3: you don't like it, we don't care. We ain't doing

964
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 3: it for you, We're doing it for us. Big on

965
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 3: our local slang. We talk away, we talk and it's

966
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 3: not for you, it's for us.

967
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: You know.

968
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 3: We're big on our independent hustle. We're big on supporting

969
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 3: our own.

970
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: I love the baby man, definitely love the bait.

971
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 2: Well, listen, Paul, I appreciate you sitting down. You got

972
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 2: any new music on the wear.

973
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 3: Yes, just drop the album. It's called Fortune and Glorious

974
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 3: eighteen songs. I actually got a video for every.

975
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: Song on the album. Every song on the album has

976
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: a video.

977
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: And you know, stead of working on new music, to

978
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 3: me in terminology, have a new album, getting you come

979
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 3: out for the show, big big shout out, you know,

980
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,959
Speaker 3: and definitely you know I'm playing on dropping until I'm eighty.

981
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 2: Man, God, how many albums you think?

982
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 3: It's like twenty over twenty maybe, you know. I mean,

983
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 3: it depends on what you consider an album. Some of

984
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: the albums like it's a mixtape or it's an EP.

985
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: Or definitely include the group albums.

986
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 3: I'm definitely over twenty five, you know. But you know,

987
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 3: it's it's a blessing to be able to do what

988
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 3: I love to do.

989
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,279
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990
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,360
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991
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