1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, it's Sophia. Welcome to Work in Progress. Welcome 2 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: back to Work in Progress, Whips, smarties and friends. I 3 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: am really excited to bring you a special episode today. 4 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: It's no secret to any of you who lives in 5 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: this country or is engaging in what is happening in 6 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: this country that our rights are under attack. These conversations 7 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 1: we're having about our autonomy, about science, medicine, and health 8 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: care certainly, and they're also incredibly personal because they're about pregnancy, 9 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: pregnancy loss, miscarriage and abortion. And so I just want 10 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: to offer a trigger warning to anyone if these are 11 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: sensitive subjects for you, I hope you can stay to 12 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: hear from the VP, but if it feels hard or overwhelming, 13 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: I just wanted to give you a warning, and of 14 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: course say take care of yourself first and foremost. And 15 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: in the wake of recent tragedies, namely the death of 16 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: Amber Nicole Thurman and Georgia, a young mother with a 17 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: six year old son who went into the hospital needing 18 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: a DNC and was not treated. She was held in 19 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: the hospital for twenty hours until she went into septic shock, 20 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: and by the time doctors operated on her it was 21 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: too late. The sepsis had gone too far and she 22 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: passed away. And she's not the only one. Women in 23 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: this country are dying because of the abortion bands that 24 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: have been instituted across the country by Donald Trump and 25 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: his Supreme Court judges and seeing medical boards say with 26 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: absolute conviction these deaths were preventable. But these women were 27 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: killed because doctors are absolutely terrified to do their duties, 28 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: to follow their hippocratic oaths and to save lives because 29 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: the Republican Party in America is threatening to jail them 30 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: for providing health care. I am apoplectic and heartbroken, and 31 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 1: I've decided to dig into the archives today for you 32 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: because a lot of people have said, how could this 33 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: have happened? They said this wouldn't happen, They said it 34 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: would never get this bad. And I say this with 35 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: no pride. I say this with extreme sadness. Those of 36 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: us who have been fighting these issues have been screaming 37 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: from the rooftops that this would happen. We were called hysterical. 38 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: We were told we were overreacting, and we weren't. We're 39 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: killing people in our country because of politics, and it's devastating. 40 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: And when I'm devastated, I look to the ones who 41 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: give me hope. And one of the people who's given 42 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: me hope as a Californian for many years in many 43 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: elected offices is Kamala Harris. Our Vice President has been 44 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: incredible as my state's attorney general, as a United States Senator, 45 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: and as the Vice President. She has centered women and 46 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: families in her policy. She has chosen to advocate on 47 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: behalf of our rights, understanding that our liberty is bound 48 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: together for women, for black women, for pregnant women, for 49 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: the LGBTQ community, for trans folks. Our autonomy is being attacked, 50 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: and over the last couple of years, I've had the 51 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: incredible privilege of traveling the country with the Vice President 52 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: on her Reproductive Freedom's Tour. She has taken time out 53 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: of her schedule regularly to meet with people in every 54 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: state to talk about what's at stake here. And in 55 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two I was lucky enough to travel with 56 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: her to bring mar College, and in twenty twenty four 57 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: I was able to visit San Jose with her and 58 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: her team has graciously sent us the audio from those interviews, 59 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: and we have decided to cut it into an election 60 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: special for all of you today. Because in my mind, 61 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: there is just no greater fight. We can't fight about 62 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: the economy if we're not alive. We can't better our 63 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: schools if our children are parentless. We can't change America 64 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: for the better and continue to create more access to 65 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: freedom and empowerment and opportunity for people if we're not alive. 66 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: So let's take a little journey through the last two 67 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: years with Vice President Kamala Harris and understand why this 68 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: fight is so personal to her. For this first section 69 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: of audio, you will be coming into the auditorium at 70 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: Brinmar College with myself and Vice President Harris on October 71 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: twenty eighth, twenty twenty two. At this event, we were 72 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: joined by Congresswoman Mary Gay Scanlon, by Admiral Rachel Levine, 73 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: and a number of other exceptionally all standing up for 74 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: our rights. This is a razor's edge moment in our country. 75 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: It is such an incredible, tenuous moment in this fight 76 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: for our rights, rights that we have long considered to 77 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: be settled law. And I'm very curious, how, with the 78 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: plethora of issues, Madam Vice President, that you face in 79 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: the administration every day, how have you dedicated so much 80 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,559 Speaker 1: time to championing this issue, and why does it matter 81 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: to you so much? 82 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: Let's start with. 83 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: From childhood. 84 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 4: So you see, I was raised, my sister and I 85 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 4: were raised by a mother who had two goals in 86 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 4: her life to raise her two daughters and. 87 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: To end breast cancer. 88 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 4: My mother was a breast cancer researcher, and she was 89 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 4: one of the very few women as a scientist, and 90 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 4: certainly one of the fewest women of color. And she 91 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 4: would come home at night, you know, I remember vividly, 92 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 4: very upset sometimes about how women were being treated in 93 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 4: the healthcare system. She was always speaking up and fighting 94 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 4: for the dignity of women in the healthcare system, and 95 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 4: in particular as it relates to reproductive health I mean 96 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 4: a word, a phrase that was often spoken at the 97 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 4: dinner table from my childhood on was memory gland. My 98 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 4: mother would talk about memory glands, she would talk about hormones, 99 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 4: she would talk about reproductive health care, about how women 100 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 4: should be treated in a way that gives them not 101 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 4: only a dignity that they rightly are due, but also 102 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 4: information so that they can exercise self determination in the system. 103 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 4: And so that's you know, so from the earliest stage, 104 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 4: and then the majority of my career before joining the 105 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 4: Senate was as a prosecutor, and when I was a 106 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 4: courtroom prosecutor, my specialty throughout those years was on crimes 107 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: affecting women and children in crimes of violence. In fact, 108 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 4: I specialized in some of the most horrible cases that 109 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: you can imagine. And again it was always about fighting 110 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 4: for the dignity, the safety, and the well being of 111 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 4: women in so many of those circumstances. But to your point, 112 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 4: I mean, look where we are. The highest court in 113 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 4: our land, the United States Supreme Court, just took a 114 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 4: constitutional right that had been recognized from the people of America, 115 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 4: from the women of America. And you know, on this subject, 116 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 4: I think it's important to note that one does not 117 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 4: have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to 118 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 4: agree the government should not be making this decision for her. 119 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 4: But what we are now saying as a result of 120 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 4: the Dobbs decision are laws that are being proposed and 121 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 4: passed around our country that would criminalize health care providers 122 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 4: literally doctors, nurses, other health care providers, send them to jail. 123 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 4: You know, as a practicing attorney, what the consequence of 124 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 4: that is, both in terms of I think the intent 125 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 4: to intimidate and instill fear in these healthcare professionals much 126 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 4: less the intent to punish them. What is happening with 127 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 4: no exception for rape or incest. And again I go 128 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 4: back to my professional career. You're talking about individuals who, 129 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 4: in those cases have experienced the worst kind of act 130 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 4: of violence and violation to their body. And then these 131 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: extremist so called leaders would dare to say and suggest 132 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 4: that that individual furthermore, will not have the right to 133 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,359 Speaker 4: make decisions about what comes next. 134 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: As it relates to their body. 135 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 3: This is immoral, it's unconscionable, and they walk around and 136 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 3: want to be hailed as leaders of their whatever. 137 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 4: That's not what a leader does. That's not what a 138 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 4: leader does, not what a true leader does. So this issue, 139 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 4: it really does relate to a lot of work that 140 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 4: I've done in the past, feel a great sense of 141 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 4: commitment as do we all to stand up and speak 142 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 4: out about it. 143 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: And not only does row falling threaten our bodily autonomy, 144 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: but it threatens every other right that has been considered 145 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: settled law under our fourteen Amendment, right to liberty. We 146 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: are now seeing attacks on access to contraception, ninety six 147 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: percent of Republicans just voted against it. So they don't 148 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: want us to be able to not get pregnant, and 149 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: they also want us to stay pregnant. Interesting, we see 150 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: attacks on marriage, we see attacks on our right to privacy. 151 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 4: There was a movement that was started by people generations 152 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 4: ago that culminated in Roe v. 153 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 3: Wait. 154 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: It is now. 155 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 3: Incumbent on us who are under this roof together right 156 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 3: now to pick that movement up and to carry it forward. 157 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 4: And when we think about the history of the greatest 158 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 4: movements in our country that were about progress, progress being 159 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 4: defined as an expansion of rights, not a restriction of rights. 160 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 4: The greatest movements that have been about that kind of progress, 161 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 4: the key ingredient has been the coalition that was built 162 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 4: around those movements. So when I think about it, and 163 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 4: this is what we talked about with the legislators in Pennsylvania, 164 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 4: is because at that table and there were so many 165 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 4: leaders there who represent in their history of work and 166 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 4: in their constituencies, all these groups or a collection of them. 167 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 4: And let's see the power that we have right now 168 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 4: to empower folks who right now are being made to 169 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 4: lose their rights or to have to fight for their rights. Well, 170 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 4: then let's fight together. I strongly believe nobody should be 171 00:11:54,480 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 4: made to fight alone. 172 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: And it isn't lost on any of us that this 173 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: rhetoric that you speak about, this division, we're witnessing half 174 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: of our political system, if not more, create chaos by othering. 175 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: We're seeing rhetoric across the country that reminds us of 176 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: what led to World War Two. We're seeing the demonization 177 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: of women and doctors and people who need care. We're 178 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: seeing attacks on the LGBTQ community and our trans communities. 179 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: And what I think when you speak about coalition building, 180 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: the thing I try to remember is that if they're 181 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: pushing us into the space where they want us to 182 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: look at each other as other, where they want us 183 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: to be triggered by the fear of scarcity, the fear 184 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: of not enoughness, all we have to remember, for the 185 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: those of us who love math and ven diagrams, that 186 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: love that about you, is that we have data on 187 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: our side now that we didn't have one hundred years ago. 188 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: We know if we just pick one of these issues, 189 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: if we could create pay parody simply on the gender line, 190 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: if we snapped our fingers and women were paid what 191 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: men are paid in this country. And this is data 192 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: from twenty eighteen, so it might be better now our 193 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: GDP would increase by twelve points. So we're not fighting 194 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: over the pieces of the pie. If we create equity, 195 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: the pie gets bigger. We all do better. Our liberty 196 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 1: is bound together. If we protect the rights of vulnerable groups, 197 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: each of us in our own vulnerabilities is better protected. 198 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: And that is something I think the administration has been 199 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: doing a very incredible job at continuing to highlight and 200 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: repeat across all of these issues. And I'm curious how 201 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: as you traveled to stay and take part in meetings 202 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: like this and see what people are doing to fight back, 203 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: how do you look at within the Biden Harris administration 204 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: this sort of umbrella of the whole nation and figure 205 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: out how to fight back. How does the administration really 206 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: figure out both the specific state by state action and 207 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: the kind of national policy. 208 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 4: Well, so we can talk about in the broader issue, 209 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 4: how do we address some of the inequities that you 210 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 4: have rightly pointed out pointed out and equity is one 211 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 4: of the principles by which we have approached. 212 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 3: All of our work. 213 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 4: And you know, And let's be clear, what does equity mean, right, 214 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 4: It's different from equality. 215 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 3: Right. 216 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 4: Equity is about understanding not everybody starts out on the 217 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 4: same base. 218 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 3: Right. 219 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 4: Equal would mean everyone gets the same amount. Well, but 220 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 4: if everyone doesn't start out in the same base, the 221 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 4: inequities are still going to exist, right. And so you know, 222 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 4: if you just give equal, you have to recognize the 223 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 4: inequities and then and then give people an equal opportunity 224 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 4: to compete. 225 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: I imagine that that since Dobbs, you must be hearing 226 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: from women and families who are going through things that 227 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: are unspeakable, and and I I wonder how you carry 228 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: their stories, you know, into your office. I wonder how 229 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: you carry those stories into the White House. 230 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: That these are the. 231 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: People who we are trying to advocate for. Right, So 232 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: how does that affect you personally as you go out 233 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: to lead. 234 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 4: I will tell you there's a lot of fear in 235 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 4: our country right now. And in fact Prop number two 236 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 4: I only have two, but it actually is quite serious 237 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 4: as an issue. So here's a map of the United States, 238 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 4: and the colors here represent the different laws or the 239 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 4: state of affairs in each of the states. So one 240 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 4: of these colors is abortion, banned from conception with no exceptions. 241 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 4: One is banned from conception with an exception for rape 242 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 4: or incest. There's another that is, let's see a six 243 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 4: week band, there's a fifteen week band, there's an eighteen 244 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 4: week ban, there's a You see what I'm saying. This 245 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 4: is the map of the United States in terms of 246 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 4: the state of affairs right now, which tells us a 247 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 4: lot of people are really confused. And what I know 248 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 4: happens when folks are confused is it is then an 249 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 4: environment that is ripe for misinformation, disinformation, and predatory behaviors. 250 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: So one of the reasons that what we are. 251 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 4: Doing this afternoon is important is to uplift and then 252 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 4: send out accurate information about about the rights that people 253 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 4: have and where they can go for help. Because there's 254 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 4: another issue that is very much at play here that 255 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 4: I think has to also be spoken, which is the 256 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 4: long standing judgment associated with women's sexuality. 257 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: So understand that. 258 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 4: Understand that, right, So what is happening is that in 259 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 4: this environment it's also thick with judgment, which has the 260 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 4: effect of making the individual feel embarrassed or is meant 261 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 4: to shame her, but certainly will make her feel alone, 262 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 4: which is one of the greatest tools that anyone has 263 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 4: when they want to take someone's power. So we're looking 264 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 4: at a situation where there are people all over our 265 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 4: country who right now are feeling very alone, very confused, 266 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 4: and in that way, feeling helpless. And that is another 267 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 4: piece of this that is so insidious about what is 268 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 4: happening right now in our country. And it is why, 269 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 4: especially to the students who are here, I ask you 270 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 4: to please use all of the creative ways that you 271 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 4: have to communicate with large numbers of people to remind 272 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 4: people they are not alone, To remind people they are 273 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 4: not being judged, to remind them that we stand with 274 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 4: them and that there is so much support for them. 275 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 4: We have to recognize all of the layers of what 276 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 4: is happening right now, because they're are very powerful forces 277 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 4: in our country who are using the bully pulp that 278 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 4: they have to make people afraid, to make people feel small, 279 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 4: and literally to criminalize and punish people for exercising self determination. 280 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 4: And so this is a moment for all good people 281 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 4: to stand and speak. 282 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: Hi, friends, I hope you're enjoying this conversation with Vice 283 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: President Harris. We are going to step back in in 284 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four in San Jose, California, where I got 285 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: to sit at a large event with the VP and 286 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: talk about how the landscape changed over the last two years. 287 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: Some facts that I think you all should have hand 288 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: are that the Trump abortion bands have eliminated some or 289 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: all abortion care in twenty two states in this country. 290 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: Total bands are in effect in fourteen states. Four states 291 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: have six week bands in place Florida, Georgia, Iowa, South Carolina. 292 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: Two states have twelve week bands in place North Carolina 293 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: and Nebraska, and two states have fifteen to eighteen week 294 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: bands in place, Arizona and Utah. We did, I will say, recently, 295 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: have some success a hard fought legal battle in Arizona 296 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: that was combined with very heroic efforts from state legislatures, 297 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: repealed the state's pre row abortion ban. That was a law, 298 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: by the way, from eighteen sixty four, when we knew 299 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: nothing that we know today about medicine, and that's what 300 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: they thought should govern our bodily autonomy. Thankfully we've beat 301 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: it back, but the fights still continue state by state. 302 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: One thing that I do want to highlight for you 303 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: all is that at six weeks most women don't know 304 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: they're pregnant, and a lot of these have been passed 305 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: based on false information that is meant to emotionally manipulate us. 306 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: They call these six week bands heartbeat bands. There is 307 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: no such thing as a heart beat. At six weeks. 308 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: The gestational tissue of a fetus has not formed a 309 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: heart yet. You are actually hearing the electrical pulses from 310 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: a mother's body that move through her blood supply into 311 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: her uterus. It's not lost on me that they want 312 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: to sentence women to death if they have pregnancy complications 313 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: because of their own heart beats. This is what we're 314 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: up against. Additional states have gestational limits in place beyond 315 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: twenty weeks. Unfortunately, we all know that most abortions that 316 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: happen after twenty weeks happen due to fetal anomalies. They 317 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: happen due to catastrophic and sad loss that families are facing. 318 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: And since these bands have gone into place, we have 319 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: seen infant mortality increase in some states by horrific, horrific percentages. 320 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: And while the former president Donald Trump might be touring 321 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: the country stating that he is proud to have overturned 322 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: Roe V. Wade because quote everyone wanted this. I don't 323 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: think everyone in Texas wanted to see maternal mortality rise 324 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: to fifty six percent compared with an eleven percent rise 325 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: nationwide during the period that Roe v. Wade was overturned. 326 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: I don't think that infant mortality rising by over eight 327 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: percent across the country because mothers are being forced to 328 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: carry fetuses with fatal anomalies to term is what quote 329 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: everybody wanted. But here we are, and I want to 330 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: be very clear with our listeners that Donald Trump and 331 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: JD Vance, along with their draconian plans under Project twenty 332 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: twenty five, have a plan for him to radically alter 333 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: the American government and end abortion access nationwide on day one, 334 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: using every single lever that they can, even without Congress. 335 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: They have printed this plan. This is not hearsay, this 336 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: is not hysteria. They put it on the Internet, guys, 337 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: it's there. So no matter what he goes out there 338 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: and says about being pro fertilization that made me want 339 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: to vomit. His party has voted against IVF not once, 340 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: but twice. You need to watch what he does and 341 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: what the GOP do as a voting block, not what 342 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: he says and not what they say. You cannot trust 343 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: them on campaign statements, but you can trust their records 344 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: on abortion, no matter how you feel about it. We're 345 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: all allowed to have feelings and beliefs that we adhere 346 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: to in our own lives, but our feelings and beliefs 347 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: cannot govern policy. They cannot govern medical science. At no 348 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: point in any person's pregnancy is a politician more qualified 349 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: to make decisions about your health than you and your doctor. 350 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: We have to be really clear on our language here, 351 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: and we have to be really clear about the goals 352 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: of the right. They knew that abortion bands would kill women, 353 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: and they are. They knew that abortion bands would harm families, 354 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: and they are. And we have to be frank. As 355 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: Sarah Jones says, that when abortion bands kill, they reveal 356 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: their true purpose, which is to grant a handful of 357 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: extremists the power over the lives and deaths of American women. 358 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: When we take into account that nearly one in three 359 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: women will experience sexual violence or physical violence in their lifetime, 360 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: and that many of these states bands make no exceptions 361 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: for rape or incest, it gets worse. One thing I 362 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: want to alert you all to friends, is that these 363 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: anti abortion, these anti reproductive freedom groups are signaling their 364 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 1: intent to enforce a really terrifying law. It's radical. It's 365 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: called the Comstock Act, and they are specifically and on 366 00:24:55,480 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: purpose misinterpreting that act to further rest access to abortion 367 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: and contraception. Just so y'all know, you can do your 368 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: research here. The Comstock Act is an eighteen hundred's law 369 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: about controlling people's sex lives that was passed before women 370 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: could vote, and that's how they want us all to live. 371 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: If they win, these attacks are going to have consequences 372 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: with ripple effects in every single state across the country. 373 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: And they share the same goal banning abortion nationwide and 374 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: making sexual and reproductive health care inaccessible. They want to 375 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 1: deny you the right to be a parent should you 376 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: want to needing IVF. They want to deny you the 377 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: right to not be a parent yet, should you want 378 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,239 Speaker 1: to using birth control. These are terrifying control mechanisms. And 379 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: while these extreme Supreme Court justices may have felt confident 380 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: to publish that they believe we need a quote domestic 381 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: supply of infants end quote in their reasoning for overturning DOBS, 382 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: I don't exactly think any of us signed up to 383 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: be breeders for a future America population against our will. 384 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,719 Speaker 1: This is an attack on us, and this is an 385 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: attack that goes so far beyond just the question of abortion, 386 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: but to reproductive healthcare in general. They are coming for 387 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: birth control, they are coming for IVF. Republicans have voted 388 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: down a bill that would protect IVF twice this year. 389 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: They just voted down a bill that would protect our 390 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: access to contraception, and their presidential candidate is out campaigning 391 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: on taking contraception away from us. This election is about 392 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: two different visions for the future of America. One is 393 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: a vision where everyone gets more free and has more 394 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: rights and more access to all things, not just healthcare, 395 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: but economic opportunity, and the other is a draconian control 396 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: mechanism to create an oligarchy and the rest of us 397 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: just have to suffer in it. We are in a 398 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: crisis point, and I got to speak about that exact 399 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: crisis point with the Vice President in San Jose in 400 00:26:54,280 --> 00:27:02,719 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. I mean, how cool is this? Before 401 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: we get into serious business, I just personally want to 402 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: extend to thank you. We did this for the first time, 403 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: having a conversation like this one two years ago on 404 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: a college campus across the country, and day in and 405 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: day out, while you are in the position to hold 406 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: the issues of the world, you keep our rights a 407 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: top issue in the administration and in the White House 408 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: and on behalf of all women and potentially pregnant people. 409 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 3: Ever, I just thank you. 410 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: Okay, So we are in a moment as a nation, 411 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: and I'm curious from your vantage point, how you see 412 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: it and why you have decided to lead this fight 413 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: for Reproductive Freedom's tour. 414 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 415 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, it's great to be with you, Sophia, 416 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 3: and thank you for sharing the stage and. 417 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: For using your voice. 418 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 4: The topic for today here is the topic of what 419 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 4: has happened in our country after the Dobbs decision, which 420 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 4: took away the right of people to make decisions about 421 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 4: their own body and has resulted in extreme harm. And 422 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 4: so I'm going to get back to the issue because 423 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 4: it's an important one and we should not be distracted 424 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 4: from any important issue. So what we're talking about, what 425 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 4: we're looking at in these states, for example, that have 426 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 4: made no exception even for raper incest. Now many of you, 427 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 4: this is my I grew up in California, in the 428 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 4: Bay Area. Many of you know my career, so you 429 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,479 Speaker 4: know that I started my career as a prosecutor. What 430 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 4: you may not know is one of the biggest reasons why. 431 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 4: When I was in high school, one of my closest friends, 432 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 4: one of my best friends, I learned was being molested 433 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 4: by her stepfather. And when I learned, I said to her, 434 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 4: you have to come and stay with us. I called 435 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 4: my mother and my mother said, of course she does, 436 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 4: and she came to stay with us. And I decided 437 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 4: at a very early age I wanted to do everything 438 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 4: I could to protect women and children from harm, and 439 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 4: I specialized for a long time in my career as 440 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 4: a prosecutor, including when I was working as ag on 441 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 4: crimes affecting women and children, no exception even for rape 442 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 4: or incests. Let's understand what that means. It means that 443 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 4: these so called leaders are saying to a survivor of 444 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 4: a crime of violence to their body, a violation to 445 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 4: their body. 446 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 3: That they don't have the right to make a decision 447 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 3: about what happens to their body next. That's immoral. This 448 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 3: is what's happening around our country. So when we talk 449 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 3: about the layers of harm, be it harm to our democracy, 450 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 3: harm to our constitution, harm to our freedoms in our rights, 451 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 3: and we then understand the real harm that also exists 452 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 3: every day for individuals who are being denied the health 453 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 3: care they need. It's extraordinary and for that reason, I 454 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 3: know we all are approaching this with a sense, yes, 455 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 3: of empathy and understanding, but also profound commitment, with a 456 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 3: sense of urgency to do something about it, to end 457 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 3: the pain and the suffering that is happening right now 458 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 3: in real time in our country. 459 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 4: And so that's the issue as much as anything, and 460 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 4: the way that we are going to ultimately deal with 461 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 4: this is to one have some consensus which I do 462 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 4: believe exists, which is that one does not have to 463 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 4: abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree the 464 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 4: government should not be telling her what to do with her. 465 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 5: Body if she chooses. 466 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 2: If she chooses, she will. 467 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 4: Consult with her pastor her priests, to rabbi, her a mom, 468 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 4: but not the government telling her what to do. And 469 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 4: so we need this November to elect a majority of 470 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 4: people in the United States Congress who simply agree, is 471 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 4: not the government's right to tell a woman what's in 472 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 4: her own best interest when she knows what's in her 473 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 4: own best interest and doesn't need some person walking around 474 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 4: with a flag pin to tell her what to do. 475 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: When extremism comes home to roost, whether it's here in 476 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: America or around the world, women and girls who suffer worst, 477 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: and it can feel overwhelming to try to hold all 478 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: of these issues. I know, for me as a citizen, 479 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,479 Speaker 1: I look to you, and I can't imagine the pressure 480 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: you feel with all of us looking to you going 481 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: tell us what to do. But one of the things 482 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: that you often encourage us to do when we feel 483 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: helpless in the face of global suffering and of the 484 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: suffering of women and girls and at risk people, is 485 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: to get involved locally. Yes, that's why you're here on 486 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: a local tour with us talking about this issue while 487 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: you daily hold all the rest of them. And I'm 488 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,959 Speaker 1: curious for those of us who you know, don't get 489 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: the binders and the briefings. What should we be doing 490 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: in our states and what can we encourage our states 491 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: to do, and what can states do across the nation 492 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: to fight back and protect our reproductive freedoms. 493 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 3: That's great, So I'll start with this part of the 494 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 3: vironment in which this issue exists, is an environment that 495 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 3: is heavily laden with judgment, suggesting to these individuals, suggesting 496 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 3: to these women that they've done something wrong and something 497 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 3: they should be embarrassed about. 498 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 4: And understand them the layers that come along with that 499 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:29,479 Speaker 4: that include making her feel as though she's alone. And 500 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 4: as we know, one of the things that can be 501 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 4: most disempowering is when people feel their alone, when they 502 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 4: feel they don't have community, much less support, when they 503 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 4: feel they're being judged and outcast as opposed to embraced. 504 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 4: And so this is the power of each of us 505 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 4: as individuals in a community, in a society on every level, 506 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 4: including this one, which is to think about how you 507 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 4: use the way that you talk with people, be it 508 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 4: you know, mom, peg, I see you here, my mother 509 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 4: in law's here. 510 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 2: That's going to be by the telephone. 511 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 4: Or text or social media, but the ways that we 512 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 4: can talk with people, friends and strangers about the issue 513 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 4: to remind them about what's at stake and the harm 514 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 4: that is happening every day. I have seen as I 515 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 4: am traveling the country on this issue, I've seen the 516 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 4: power of that communication. 517 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 2: I have met with people. 518 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 4: Who started especially before the Dobs decision came down and 519 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 4: were vehement that they were opposed to abortion, and who 520 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 4: have not abandoned their faith and whatever reason it is 521 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 4: for why they feel that way and strongly about themselves 522 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,479 Speaker 4: and their family, but also didn't know and weren't aware 523 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 4: of the suffering that would happen as a result, and 524 00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 4: now knowing the suffering that is happening, are considering their 525 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 4: position in terms of the policy of it all, the 526 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 4: policy being to deny other people the decision to make 527 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 4: that very important decision for themselves and not the government 528 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 4: telling them. 529 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 2: So. 530 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 4: The power of communication on this is very important. I 531 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 4: think there's also another thing that is at play on 532 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 4: so many issues in our country, which is, if you will, 533 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 4: I think a certain thing that is quite perverse that 534 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 4: it is being pushed by some so called leaders, which is 535 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 4: to suggest that the measure of the strength of the 536 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 4: leader is based on who you beat down. 537 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 2: And said who you lift up. 538 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 4: Right, you know, there's a thing happening that suggests that 539 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 4: to care about people somehow is assign a weakness, when 540 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 4: we all know that one of the great characteristics and 541 00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 4: character of real leadership is the character or that has 542 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 4: some level of concern, curiosity, and compassion about the suffering 543 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 4: of other people and then wants to do something about 544 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 4: alleviating that suffering. So the work that needs to be 545 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 4: done over these next ten months includes using our voices 546 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 4: to really help people understand how this is affecting people 547 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 4: in real time. Because there's nothing abstract about this issue. 548 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 4: There's nothing hypothetical about it is it does not require it, 549 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 4: and it absolutely deserves more than some kind of intellectual 550 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 4: political debate. 551 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 3: It requires action. 552 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 1: This is a crisis. 553 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 3: You're absolutely right, and you're absolutely right. 554 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: I'm just curious, can you walk us through who's responsible 555 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: for this? Because this was an intentional crisis indeed, and 556 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: you've mentioned that the Supreme Court overturned Row. But can 557 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: we can we just cover how we got to that point? 558 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 2: I think we should. I think we should too. 559 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 3: It feels appropriate to tell some truth. 560 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 4: So the former president of the United States hand picked, 561 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:14,320 Speaker 4: hand picked three members of the United States Supreme Court 562 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,959 Speaker 4: with the intention that they would undo wrong. Let's be 563 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,720 Speaker 4: very clear about it. And he has been very clear 564 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 4: that that is exactly what he intended. Just take him 565 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 4: at his word. Take him at his word when he 566 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 4: said recently he's proud of what he did, and I asked, proud, 567 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 4: Connect Christine Pelosi. I asked, proud, Proud that doctors might 568 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 4: go to jail for giving health care, Proud that women 569 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 4: are having miscarriages without any healthcare that they need. 570 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 2: Proud that. 571 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 4: Fundamental freedoms have been taken from the American people. To 572 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 4: understand the arrogance that is associated with the taking, and 573 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 4: then what we are up against. And so this is 574 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 4: why we know what is before us and the fight 575 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 4: that is before us. 576 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 2: This is a fight that is. 577 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 3: Fundamental, and it is fundamentally about freedom. Freedom, the freedom 578 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 3: to make decisions about your own body. And understand, as 579 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 3: we step back, there is and I travel our country, 580 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 3: there is a foot, a full on intent to attack hard, 581 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 3: hard won freedoms in our country. 582 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 4: Just look at what is happening. Look at what is 583 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 4: happening with a don't say gay bill. Okay, So now 584 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 4: let me I will remind my fellow Californians in two 585 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 4: thousand and four, actually Valentine's weekend, two thousand and four, 586 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 4: so it'll be twenty years. I was proud to be 587 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 4: one of the first elected officials in the country to 588 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 4: perform same sex marriages almost twenty years ago. Don't say 589 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 4: gay bill, So imagine this so twenty years ago. 590 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 2: So this means that some young teacher in. 591 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 4: Florida is afraid to put up a photograph of themselves 592 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 4: and their partner for fear they may be fired for 593 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 4: doing what? 594 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 2: For doing the God's gift? 595 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,760 Speaker 4: All of us to avow themselves to teach other people's children. 596 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 2: As it is, they don't get paid enough. 597 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty four, we're looking at a tax on 598 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 3: the LGBTQ community. 599 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four. 600 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 3: We're looking at a tax so on the freedom to 601 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,760 Speaker 3: vote in access to the ballot. I was just in Georgia. 602 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 4: You know, they passed along in Georgia to make it 603 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,280 Speaker 4: illegal to give people food and water while they stand 604 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 4: in line to vote. What happened to love thy neighbor? 605 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 4: I mean, the hypocrisy abounds, the kinds of freedoms that 606 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 4: are under attack in America right now, and I would 607 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 4: offer you know, I asked my team to create a 608 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 4: ven diagram for me. 609 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 3: I love ven diagrams. 610 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,320 Speaker 4: And you know, whenever you're kind of looking at something 611 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 4: complex of VENN diagram can. 612 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 2: Usually help you out. 613 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 4: And the overlap then right, between where we're seeing the 614 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 4: attacks against voting rights, where we're seeing the attacks against LGBTQ, 615 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 4: where they're seeing the attack against reproductive freedom, and you 616 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 4: would not be shocked to see the profound intersection between them. 617 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 4: So this also, then, I say, as we organize and 618 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 4: think about these next many months, is an opportunity to 619 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 4: read we dedicate ourselves not only to community building, but 620 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 4: as an extension of that coalition building, let's bring together 621 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 4: all the folks who've been fighting for voting rights, all 622 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 4: the folks who've been fighting for LGBTQ rights, all the 623 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 4: folks who have been fighting for reproductive health rights, including 624 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:27,879 Speaker 4: maternal health rights and maternal mortality, fighting against that right. 625 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 2: By the way, on that issue, sofia. 626 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 4: So I've also been doing a lot of work over 627 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 4: many years on the issue of combating maternal mortality. We 628 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,439 Speaker 4: have a so called developed nation on the highest rates 629 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,720 Speaker 4: of maternal mortality of any nation in the world. 630 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 3: It's a crime, shame. 631 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 4: And so again the hypocrisy abounds in the States with 632 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 4: the top ten worst numbers on maternal mortality, all have fans. 633 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 3: I say to these so called extreamist leaders. 634 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 4: Okay, so you'd say that your work to ban abortion, 635 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 4: ban access to reproductive healthcare is because you are so 636 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 4: concerned about mothers and children. 637 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 3: Well, why you've been silent on maternal mortality? 638 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 2: Where you been? 639 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 4: When I became vice president, I issued a challenge to 640 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 4: states extend Medicaid coverage for postpartum care from. 641 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 3: What is the standard two months to twelve months. 642 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 4: When I started, three states, we're doing it now forty 643 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 4: three have done it right. All these issues are connected. 644 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 4: All these issues are connected. It is the nature of 645 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 4: our fight for freedoms that whatever gains we make, the 646 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 4: nature is, they will not be permanent. It's just the 647 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 4: nature of it. 648 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:09,720 Speaker 3: Therefore, understanding that we must always be vigilant, We must 649 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 3: understand how precarious and precious this all is, and commit 650 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,919 Speaker 3: ourselves every day to stand for and fight for these 651 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 3: rights and these freedoms. 652 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 4: Look, as I like to say, and we all say, 653 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 4: many times, when we fight, we win. In this moment, 654 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 4: when there are people trying to divide our country and 655 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 4: distract us from what's important, let's just hold on to 656 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 4: each other. Look at the person next to you if 657 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 4: you don't know them, and just let them know we're 658 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 4: all in this together. 659 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 3: Okay, We're all in this together. 660 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 2: Thank you, Ron, thank you, Thank. 661 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:44,839 Speaker 3: You so much. 662 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:53,240 Speaker 1: Friends of this podcast. You all are the person sitting 663 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: next to me right now. We're listening side by side, 664 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: so I'm looking at you, see you, I'm voting for you, 665 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 1: I root for you. We really are all in this together. 666 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the most important takeaways 667 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: from these conversations that I am so lucky to have 668 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 1: been able to have with the Vice President and from 669 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: the years I've spent working on access to reproductive health care, 670 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: what I've learned, and she talks about this. You know, 671 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: when those in power want to abuse power for control, 672 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: one of their greatest mechanisms to do that is, as 673 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: the Vice President and I were talking about earlier, to 674 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 1: make you look at people as other. Because if they 675 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,359 Speaker 1: can make you attack the people you view as other, 676 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: if we are fighting with each other, we won't see 677 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: that they're actually attacking all of us. These attacks, these 678 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: bands on care and attacks on reproductive healthcare continue to 679 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: dispropar unfortunately affect women, black, Latino and Indigenous communities, young people, 680 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: people with low incomes, people living in rural communities, and more. 681 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 1: Folks who already have the most difficulty accessing healthcare, including 682 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:19,280 Speaker 1: the LGBTQ plus community, and really including trans folks and guys. 683 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: I would be remiss if I didn't make it incredibly 684 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: clear here racism and sexism fuel each other, and as 685 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: more women who look like me, more white women who 686 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: have typically been Republican voters, are voting to protect abortion 687 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 1: access because their friends are dying. They see these hideous 688 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 1: things happening to women and families around the country. The 689 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 1: Republicans are scared. So who are they attacking now to 690 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: continue to popularize attacks on bodily autonomy. They're attacking transfolks 691 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,760 Speaker 1: because while women are fifty one percent of the population 692 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:57,320 Speaker 1: in this country, transfolks are our smallest and most vulnerable population. 693 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 1: We're talking a couple hundred thousand people in a country 694 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 1: of three hundred and thirty two million. And the Republicans 695 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,959 Speaker 1: have put a target on their back because they want 696 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: you to think restricting someone's bodily autonomy and choices about 697 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 1: their life is okay. They're losing ground on the abortion fight, 698 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,839 Speaker 1: so they are coming for us in hideous ways. They 699 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 1: are trying to subvert the votes. They are trying to 700 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 1: take these laws that we have put on ballots state 701 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: to state by signing up, by exercising our due process 702 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 1: under the law. They are trying to stop those votes 703 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: from even being taken this year, so we have to 704 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,800 Speaker 1: fight again. They are coming at us with Project twenty 705 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: twenty five. They are coming at us with everything they 706 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: can muster for what to cause harm, To see non 707 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 1: viable pregnancies carried to terms so those babies die in 708 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: their parents' arms. To kill women by putting them into 709 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: septic shock before they'll give them much needed post abortion 710 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: or post miscarriage. This is barbaric. And I'm hoping that 711 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 1: these conversations in which I got to sit down with 712 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: one of the most powerful people in our country who 713 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 1: fights for us, can remind you that she's an incredible 714 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 1: woman and just a person who's been out here doing 715 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: this work for decades for us, to protect us, to 716 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,400 Speaker 1: hold the line of progress and democracy. I hope this 717 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,399 Speaker 1: has encouraged you to get involved. I hope this has 718 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: encouraged you to vote. Please vote like your lives depend 719 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 1: on it, because they probably do. Mine does, and so 720 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: I'm guessing yours does too. I want better for all 721 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 1: of us, and we're in this together. And because I 722 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 1: do believe that frank and inclusive conversations about this subject 723 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 1: matter are some of the most important conversations we can 724 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 1: be having. Right now, we have a part two to 725 00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:01,240 Speaker 1: this conversation coming for you. I am so incredly honored 726 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: that Amanda Zowski has taken the time to join us 727 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,479 Speaker 1: for our next episode of work in Progress. You likely 728 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,879 Speaker 1: know Amanda as one of the women who stood up 729 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:17,240 Speaker 1: on stage at the DNC and talked about her miscarriage story. 730 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,280 Speaker 1: Amanda is one of the women who bravely shared her story. 731 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 1: Her and her lovely husband, josh had been trying to 732 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 1: have a baby for quite some time. They were finally 733 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,320 Speaker 1: pregnant for the first time, and they tragically suffered a miscarriage. 734 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 1: Amanda was denied care at the hospital. She went into 735 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: septic shock NOTT once but twice, had to fight for 736 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 1: her life. Has experienced permanent damage to her fertility because 737 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 1: of the traumatic life saving measures that doctors had to 738 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,439 Speaker 1: take when they finally deemed her sick enough for those 739 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,759 Speaker 1: doctors to not go to jail for enacting the care 740 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 1: that she needed. Amanda stood on stage at the DNC 741 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,879 Speaker 1: with Caitlyn, Joshua, and Hadley Duval to talk about their 742 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 1: experiences with these laws, and I am incredibly honored that 743 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 1: she's going to join us for a conversation