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Speaker 1: A couple of things, including releases. So it started on
Speaker 1: Friday when WWE got rid of a bunch of people.
Speaker 1: We've got Cedric Alexander. I guess we'll talk about these
Speaker 1: people one at a time, all right. So the gist
Speaker 1: of this is WWE is now TKO. So a lot
Speaker 1: of people's WWE deals are coming up and they need
Speaker 1: to sign TKO deals. Now, if you are a big name,
Speaker 1: you're gonna make a big money from TKO. If you're
Speaker 1: not a big name, I don't think you're gonna be
Speaker 1: making as big a money with TKO. So we'll start
Speaker 1: with Cedric Alexander. Cedric Alexander was on a main roster
Speaker 1: contract working in NXT. That is often the kiss of death,
Speaker 1: as it was in this case. Sonya Deville may have
Speaker 1: been the biggest surprise of anybody, as she was working
Speaker 1: the main roster and featured regularly and she was released.
Speaker 1: So what that suggests to me is that she was
Speaker 1: on a WWE deal. The deal was likely coming due
Speaker 1: the deal that TKO offered her was I guess she
Speaker 1: figured doing that and she is gone. That is my
Speaker 1: guess as to what happened with Sonya Deville, because that
Speaker 1: one is a surprise. Authors of Pain. They've tried with
Speaker 1: authors in Pain for years and years and years and
Speaker 1: years and years, and it never worked out. Never did
Speaker 1: much with him. They were just there. They were just
Speaker 1: bodies on the roster, as well as Paul Ellering, you know,
Speaker 1: he vanished for a while and we thought that was
Speaker 1: the end of him, but then he came back and
Speaker 1: turns out it was the end of him. Blair Davenport
Speaker 1: is gone, and I don't know what kind of deal
Speaker 1: she had, but that could have been the deal there
Speaker 1: Gallows and Anderson, they got moved NXT on main roster deals,
Speaker 1: usually not a good sign. Isla don is gone. No
Speaker 1: word on Alba fire, but Ala is gone, so that's
Speaker 1: kind of interesting. They got rid of one but not
Speaker 1: the other, although maybe Alba is not answering her phone,
Speaker 1: which is not the worst idea on days like this.
Speaker 1: And then Electro Lopez is gone as well, and she
Speaker 1: had been put with Logato del Phantasma as basically just
Speaker 1: a person in the group. They rarely had a wrestle,
Speaker 1: you know, was a good she was a good character,
Speaker 1: a good promo when needed, but not really a good
Speaker 1: wrestler and also gone. And my guess is that Zelina
Speaker 1: Vega will likely be returning to Legato del Phantasma with
Speaker 1: the departure of Elektra Lopez. So those are the that's
Speaker 1: the current list of people released from WWE, and they
Speaker 1: have also vanishing from the AW roster page. Miro after
Speaker 1: all these years, is now off the roster page. Malachi
Speaker 1: Black as we all knew, and Malachi Black his wrestling
Speaker 1: school is called I Believe the Dark Arts Academy, and
Speaker 1: if you recall, Dark Arts is what Chad Gable said
Speaker 1: he was going to go learn from a secret person.
Speaker 1: So my guess is that's that is the Easter egg
Speaker 1: to lead to the return of Malachi Alister Black in WWE.
Speaker 1: But I also have been told I don't know if
Speaker 1: this is true or not. I sure hope it is
Speaker 1: that Chad Gable is actually going to be working some
Speaker 1: dates for Triple A. That sounds awesome. And Ricky Starks,
Speaker 1: who won the DeFi title this weekend, also off of
Speaker 1: the AW roster page, so he might be free after
Speaker 1: all of these years as well. So that's the latest
Speaker 1: list of releases, and I would say, really, the only
Speaker 1: one that is a big surprise is Sonya Deville.
Speaker 3: Ope Chad's not working with Alberto L. Patron when he
Speaker 3: goes down there. You know, another option for Selina Vega
Speaker 3: would be to hooker back up with Andrade now that
Speaker 3: Andrade is back, if you.
Speaker 1: Want, That's what I just said. She'd be back with
Speaker 1: Legato Well, Legato, oh, ANDRONI they could put him back
Speaker 1: with Androtti.
Speaker 3: Well, or you can put her with Malachi Black if
Speaker 3: you wanted to do something, you know, with a touch
Speaker 3: of it. Look, they a lot of their success comes
Speaker 3: in the fact that they're doing things that are steeped
Speaker 3: in reality. And I think a lot of people know
Speaker 3: that Zelena and Malachi are together, and if you wanted
Speaker 3: to put them together and make her the mouthpiece, you
Speaker 3: could do that if you wanted to. Elector Lopez is
Speaker 3: no surprise you know, they she looked She and Indy
Speaker 3: Hartwell were alike in that they looked great and they
Speaker 3: had a presence. And I wasn't thrilled about Electra's promos,
Speaker 3: but you know, she promoed a lot better than she wrestled.
Speaker 3: But she had been around for a long, long time
Speaker 3: Blair Davenport. It's just like they never could figure out
Speaker 3: what to do with her, and she was going to
Speaker 3: linger their AOP and Paul al Ring. I never really
Speaker 3: saw it with Aop, and obviously nobody else did either.
Speaker 3: They Paul brought him back and it didn't work. I
Speaker 3: think he brought back Cedric as well too. I don't
Speaker 3: think this is the first time Cedric has been released.
Speaker 3: Is it so again? Same thing? What is he going
Speaker 3: to do? He's probably better off trying to go ply
Speaker 3: things elsewhere. The one surprise to me other than Sonya
Speaker 3: was Isla down in that. I thought she was I
Speaker 3: thought there was some potential there and her team with
Speaker 3: Albo was good. But then again, when you have so
Speaker 3: many people that are coming through that system, you know
Speaker 3: again you know time is going to be short.
Speaker 1: I think for some here says WWE, random release is
Speaker 1: a tradition like no other. These are not random releases.
Speaker 1: It is time to call people up from NXT. Have
Speaker 1: you guys seen the NXT rosters. They're starting this new
Speaker 1: Evolve show and they're going to be putting a lot
Speaker 1: of the developmental talent on the Evolve show. NXT. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you want to still call it developmental, you can.
Speaker 1: It's not a developmental it is a third brand. And
Speaker 1: I do think the thing with NXT is they do
Speaker 1: pay less than the main roster. So because of that,
Speaker 1: it is hard to move people from Raw and SmackDown
Speaker 1: to NXT. But honestly, they got the money they should
Speaker 1: be paying the NXT stars at least something resembling what
Speaker 1: they make on the main roster. I mean, the main
Speaker 1: roster wrestlers. They're not touring anymore. I mean it's not
Speaker 1: I mean, they do occasional house shows, but I mean
Speaker 1: they probably do the same number of house shows for NXT.
Speaker 1: They don't draw as big of crowds obviously, but you know,
Speaker 1: as far as like you know, you're working generally the
Speaker 1: same number of days the NXT shows do an eight
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand viewers. It's you know, it's still
Speaker 1: doing fine. I mean I think that you should mix
Speaker 1: it up a little bit more. And the NXT roster
Speaker 1: is gigantic. Forty women alone on the NXT roster and
Speaker 1: I'm sure probably similar number of men. It's time to
Speaker 1: move people up. They go to make room. They gotta
Speaker 1: get risk of main roster people back in a moment
Speaker 1: with some new NXT names. Observer Live.
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Speaker 1: is for releasing people. Just release people as well. Remember
Speaker 1: remember when he guaranteed that they were not going to
Speaker 1: release Malachi, Malachi would be Black back for the long
Speaker 1: haul black, so to speak. Malachi Black missed that one any.
Speaker 3: Well, he whiffed, what do you think Malachi's new name
Speaker 3: should be.
Speaker 1: When he goes to it's going to be Ulstra Black?
Speaker 3: Oh no, come on, why't we put his what he
Speaker 3: was before?
Speaker 1: For crying out loud? They bring back We'll get to that.
Speaker 1: They bring back everybody under their old She's not Medusa.
Speaker 1: She has to come back as a Lunderbla. Yes.
Speaker 3: Can he be the new Fandango.
Speaker 1: No, we already have fandango fandangos in NXT. No, he
Speaker 1: came out of the Fandango music.
Speaker 3: In the whole ninety He's a man unnamed all right.
Speaker 1: So they got a list of new NXT names, which
Speaker 1: reminds me. I talked about this on the Filthy Tom show.
Speaker 1: So Paisley is into Diary of a Wimpy Kid. She's
Speaker 1: reading all these books, yes, and uh, and she still
Speaker 1: likes me to read to her. So I was reading
Speaker 1: her the book the other day. And you know, his
Speaker 1: books are weird, dude. Just it's like it just one
Speaker 1: thing after another happens. I don't even know if there's
Speaker 1: a story to the books. It's just like this happened,
Speaker 1: and then this happened, and this happened or whatever. So anyway,
Speaker 1: reading this book, and I get to some story about
Speaker 1: some some some other kid at this other kid's school,
Speaker 1: and his name is, uh, Purvis Gentry. My god, my god.
Speaker 1: I read that name and uh, Paisley lost it, absolutely
Speaker 1: lost it at Purvios Gentry, Like we couldn't even keep reading.
Speaker 1: She laughed and laughed and laughed and laughed and laughed.
Speaker 1: I did as well, because I thought, my gut, if
Speaker 1: there has ever been an NXT name, it's Purvios Gentry.
Speaker 1: So as you as you uh as you keep that
Speaker 1: name Purvis Gentry in your head. Let's look at these actual,
Speaker 1: actual NXT names.
Speaker 3: These have been trademarked with the United States.
Speaker 1: Some of them aren't terrible others are. We have Harley
Speaker 1: Riggins starting off hot, Yeah, Harley Reno Riggins.
Speaker 3: If this isn't a white guy from the Midwest with
Speaker 3: a curly frow, what are we even doing here, Harley
Speaker 3: race John Riggins.
Speaker 1: Come on, Harley Riggins, by the way, unblocked him. I
Speaker 1: still don't get his messages here, do I gotta do?
Speaker 1: I gotta reboot, I gotta do here. Let's try that,
Speaker 1: see how that works. Then we have got Aria Bennett. Aria.
Speaker 1: You say Aria Bennett.
Speaker 3: We got an Aria on the site, right, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2: Winter Surprise.
Speaker 1: He didn't call himself Ari Bennett.
Speaker 3: Braxton Cole, come on, that's now you're that's really lazy.
Speaker 3: You're just taking announcers names now from the past and
Speaker 3: mixing them together.
Speaker 1: Braxton Cole, come on. Then we've got Mason Holiday. They
Speaker 1: added they spelled Mason with a y. Come on, it's
Speaker 1: one of the Wait.
Speaker 3: M is it like Mason Win?
Speaker 1: Is it m A y s N m A S
Speaker 1: y N Holiday? Hey, listen, you know it's like you
Speaker 1: can't top Jasmine Nicks j A z M y n
Speaker 1: n y X. That's how they spell it.
Speaker 3: Somebody's playing scrabble.
Speaker 1: And Jasmine knicks we have, and I guarantee this person
Speaker 1: has to be blonde. Summer Sorel, Summer Serel. I talked
Speaker 1: to somebody that worked there who likes to give me
Speaker 1: a hard time, and uh, and even they were like, I,
Speaker 1: I when shows not on, I I can't tell one
Speaker 1: from another. They have so many blonds in n x T.
Speaker 1: They're just everywhere, everywhere, And and I mean the best,
Speaker 1: the best was the time that what's her name came out?
Speaker 1: The one that's hanging out with the gangsters? Is he Dame?
Speaker 3: Is Dame?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: They put is he Dame on the screen and the
Speaker 1: fans started chanting Tiffany Tivvy time because they actually thought
Speaker 1: it was Tiffany and they were disappointing when it wasn't.
Speaker 1: But anyway, Summer Sorel cREL.
Speaker 3: Yes, we appreciate the alliteration, but I don't know about Sorel.
Speaker 1: We also have I swear to God Hayes Jamison h
Speaker 1: A Z E. Jamison.
Speaker 3: So do you think that's a woman's name, then hey.
Speaker 1: Is this someone? Is this someone that bullies others? Is
Speaker 1: this someone who's like a unrepentant smoker? Is this someone
Speaker 1: who never never knows what's going on? Hayes Jamison.
Speaker 3: That's not a poor name, Hey, Jamison is not a
Speaker 3: poor name. Whoever you are in the twitch chat.
Speaker 1: Only the most famous one ever, Hayes Jamison. Oh j oh,
Speaker 1: that's of all people, Mike dear, look at the chat.
Speaker 3: Absolutely Aghast Dominic Simone fan at the time. Tate Wilder,
Speaker 3: Now that's well, you know, Tate Wilder. That could be
Speaker 3: a member of Wilder and Young.
Speaker 1: Wilder and Young.
Speaker 3: Jax Presley Jacks Presley.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do we really need to j A X in
Speaker 1: this company? Nya Jacks and Jax Presley. Maybe Jax Presley
Speaker 1: is a guy and they can do a deal where
Speaker 1: he marries Nya Jacks and then I guess it would
Speaker 1: be the He could take her last name Jax Jackson
Speaker 1: and Facebook he could put Jax Presley Jacks, you know
Speaker 1: for his old friends Knee Presley. Oh. Cyrus Griffin, Oh, Cyrus, Oh,
Speaker 1: Cyrus Griffin. Yeah, he better have an Egyptian gimmick. He
Speaker 1: better come out of a pyramid is his entrance. Cyrus Griffin.
Speaker 3: We got the old dirty bastard one of his names
Speaker 3: for a while.
Speaker 1: Another one I cannot make up, Draco Knox what the
Speaker 1: hell you heard?
Speaker 3: You heard me? He's a Romanian machine gun slash Mike Knox's.
Speaker 1: Brother, Draco Knox. Draco, we've got Trill London. What Triller London?
Speaker 1: Which then Jordan Grace called DIBs on Jordan. I'm begging you, no, no,
Speaker 1: not Trill London.
Speaker 3: Uh huh, We're gonna we may need a uh. Do
Speaker 3: you know the definition of trill is being genuine, being real,
Speaker 3: being true in fact, it's true and real together. Didn't
Speaker 3: impress you at all? No, No, it's like you watch.
Speaker 1: Show last night, positively not Yeah, mister Trillberger, Yeah that guy.
Speaker 3: This person better be from Houston if you're using trill.
Speaker 1: And finally, Chantelle Monroe, Ah, that sounds like.
Speaker 3: A Shantel Monroe sounds like an actual person. But the
Speaker 3: thing is they'll change somebody's name to that from like
Speaker 3: another name that's gonna be very close to that. It's
Speaker 3: like the Kilanie Jordan thing. It's like, why are you
Speaker 3: really doing this?
Speaker 1: Klanie Jordan is nothing like her real name?
Speaker 3: No, but like that's the whole thing is why are
Speaker 3: you going through? But it's not like her real name
Speaker 3: is exotic either. It's not like Kilanie Jordan's the most
Speaker 3: exotic name in the world. So it's like you're just
Speaker 3: substituting somebody's real name for it's it's not even flashy,
Speaker 3: it's not Mitchell. What's the big deal between Leah Mitchell
Speaker 3: and Kilanie Jordan.
Speaker 1: Well, Colonie Jordan is is much more dynamic than Hawaiian.
Speaker 3: Now or what do we got going on there?
Speaker 1: My daughter's name huntelation a a Hawaiian. You're you're allowed
Speaker 1: to call yourself Kilanie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but as fast as you can move that whole
Speaker 3: family there you're doing and I know it. You want
Speaker 3: out of this.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't get out of this by doing that.
Speaker 3: Actually, you know you do it on then have Harder
Speaker 3: or Bell moved to Singapore.
Speaker 1: Who wants to do that?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Anyway? Those are the names I can't wait. I cannot
Speaker 1: wait to watch evolve so I can.
Speaker 3: Uh, what's Jack Cartwill's new name?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't I don't know what his new name.
Speaker 3: Is cart jack wheel or something.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Jack Cartweel got a new name.
Speaker 3: I think he did.
Speaker 1: Everyone's very excited for Osyrus Griffin, Cyrus, boom Virus Cyrus Griffin.
Speaker 3: Well, I haven't been in Osiris in wrestling since what
Speaker 3: Ernie Osias Ring of Honor? Dirty Ernie.
Speaker 1: He probably was the only other Osiris we've seen. If
Speaker 1: we have any text messages.
Speaker 3: We've had a Cyrus. Whatever happened to that guy?
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Speaker 2: You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez
Speaker 2: and Mike semperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1: Are you all right over there?
Speaker 3: We're about to break scoops on this show once Brian
Speaker 3: finds out. But Lenny knows about some certain situations. Well,
Speaker 3: you know, Lenny.
Speaker 1: Lenny claim that Malachi was not going anywhere, and then
Speaker 1: of course he's gone. And I was told that Lenny
Speaker 1: had an explanation for it, and I couldn't figure out
Speaker 1: unblock him when he explained it. So now I'm waiting,
Speaker 1: and I also need to know if his podcast is
Speaker 1: available yet. I've been waiting a long time for Lenny's podcast.
Speaker 1: Subjectively Lenny.
Speaker 3: Yes, not objectionally Lenny.
Speaker 1: Well, he is objectionable, but the story, the name of
Speaker 1: the podcast is subjectively Lenny I give. I gave him
Speaker 1: that name.
Speaker 3: Good job, Corey.
Speaker 1: I gave him that name.
Speaker 3: Now get.
Speaker 1: Actually, this is very interesting. I asked Chad GPT. This
Speaker 1: person said for NXT names, and this is what it
Speaker 1: provided me with without explaining anything. Okay, so here's what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. It's too late, damn it. I should
Speaker 1: have read the the AI ones first, and in the
Speaker 1: real ones, and everybody guessed which was real and which
Speaker 1: was AI. Okay, here are the Chad GPT. Are these
Speaker 1: better or worse than the actual? Here are the actual ones.
Speaker 1: Harley Riggins, Aria Bennett, Braxton, Cole Mason, Holiday Summer, Sorell Hayes, Jamison, Tate, Wilder,
Speaker 1: Jax Presley, Osyrus Griffin, Draco Knox, Trill London, and shen
Speaker 1: Tell Monroe. Now let's look at the AI names. Ten
Speaker 1: of those Jackson, Creed, Maddox, Steele, Writer, Vaughn Tallon, Hayes, Blaze, Archer,
Speaker 1: sam Mercer, Cain, Draven, Grimmn Striker, and Cult Maddocks. Dude,
Speaker 1: they're exactly the same. They're exactly the same. If I
Speaker 1: would have read those, nobody would have said, wait a second,
Speaker 1: that's not the real names.
Speaker 3: Max Steele.
Speaker 1: Yeah, God, there's even better ones down here, even further. Dude,
Speaker 1: if you're if you're if you're in an nil deal, Like,
Speaker 1: listen to this right now. I got some good names
Speaker 1: for you. Rogan, Pierce, Beckett, Cruz, Dante Briggs, Troy Valor.
Speaker 1: He's got to be a military gimmick, Glexen Wolf, Asher, Vance, Brody, Kincaid,
Speaker 1: Deacon Fury, Batista would like that one, Slade Monroe, Jet Rains,
Speaker 1: en Rico's.
Speaker 3: Storm Is it jet with two teas?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Ricos Storm?
Speaker 1: Yeah, first as I'd pay to see Zane Mercer. There's
Speaker 1: a lot. No one has taken Cult Maddocks. I guess
Speaker 1: we had Brad Maddox.
Speaker 3: He may have screwed it up for everybody.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we had SmackDown and we had.
Speaker 3: Uh a pretty good collision.
Speaker 1: Due it was the best collision in years. Name name
Speaker 1: a better one. That's my challenge to everybody, name a better.
Speaker 3: Collision idea, whichever one had uh Jay and Juice against
Speaker 3: ft R because that match was awesome, so I'll take
Speaker 3: but it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Matter and that match was awesome, But was the entire
Speaker 1: show as good as this show?
Speaker 9: Noah?
Speaker 3: The first first thing about this show is like the
Speaker 3: same thing about Wednesday's Dynamite. You really, if you're an
Speaker 3: aw fan, you really want to support them, You really
Speaker 3: want to put like the best foot forward to try
Speaker 3: to get things back on track. Do your little part
Speaker 3: Number one, buy tickets. They need you to do that.
Speaker 3: But also when you buy a ticket, make noise like
Speaker 3: the people in Cincinnati have done, or wherever they were
Speaker 3: last week for Dynamite because that was awesome, and then
Speaker 3: in Texas for Collision. Keep going to Rosenberg, Texas or
Speaker 3: wherever they were because that crowd was hot.
Speaker 1: Dude, It's called a smaller building in a decent area. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where fans don't go all the time.
Speaker 3: They've had some small built Look, Texas gets a lot
Speaker 3: of wrestling, and I think what they did was balance
Speaker 3: that show really well with things that locally they would
Speaker 3: have wanted to see, while also pushing everything else forward. Look,
Speaker 3: it was a It was a really good show, even
Speaker 3: if you didn't love every single part of it.
Speaker 1: See uh, let me find out what building it was,
Speaker 1: because there is an irony about all of this, which uh.
Speaker 3: Loo, because they've been in some small buildings and the
Speaker 3: people have been sitting on their hands. It's been cold,
Speaker 3: it's been this, it's been that. Look again, the smaller
Speaker 3: buildings are gonna help no matter what.
Speaker 1: Okay, short ceilings all this show was it the Fort
Speaker 1: ben Epicenter in Rosenberg, Texas, all right, And like a
Speaker 1: lot of people were making fun of this building. They
Speaker 1: were making fun of the building. It's out in the
Speaker 1: middle of nowhere. This that and the other thing. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, and this is actually this was actually
Speaker 1: this is this is different from I thought.
Speaker 3: They've been there multiple times.
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, they had a dynamite there. Okay, they
Speaker 1: had a dynamite there.
Speaker 3: But like.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes there's this idea that has a lot
Speaker 1: to do I think with with ego, which is I
Speaker 1: got to run the big building in the hot part
Speaker 1: of town. Okay, now, yes, defy, they're doing well outside.
Speaker 1: It's it's in Seattle Washington Hall. But it's like it's
Speaker 1: on you know, the other side of the freeway. It's
Speaker 1: kind of it's it's out a little ways from like
Speaker 1: downtown Seattle, and you know, it's not that big a building.
Speaker 1: It's not like they're trying to run a climate pledge. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you know, I remember years and years ago when
Speaker 1: there actually was something of a scene in Washington State
Speaker 1: and it wasn't much of a scene. And it was
Speaker 1: the same thing down in Oregon. It was like you
Speaker 1: would see people running shows all over the area in
Speaker 1: Washington and Oregon, but they would never run in like Seattle.
Speaker 1: They would they would they would run outside of Seattle,
Speaker 1: and you know, they would go out to this place
Speaker 1: or that place or wherever. And you know, it was
Speaker 1: always like, why did you run in the big city.
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, you run in a big city and
Speaker 1: you're competing with eight thousand different things on a Friday
Speaker 1: night or a Saturday night, and you're gonna pay out
Speaker 1: the you know what for rent and you're not gonna
Speaker 1: draw well, whereas you go to a place where there
Speaker 1: ain't nothing else to do and the rent, the rent
Speaker 1: is cheap, and you put a lot of people in
Speaker 1: that building, and you know that's that's hey, listen, one
Speaker 1: of these days, aw might be hot enough to go
Speaker 1: back to the big building in the big city, Okay,
Speaker 1: But you want to run outside of town in an
Speaker 1: area that people think is hey, who would possibly run there? Well,
Speaker 1: those people wanted to go to wrestling, and the ones
Speaker 1: that did go had a hell of a time. And
Speaker 1: you know, you know how good this crowd was. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you how good this crowd was. The worst
Speaker 1: match on this show. The worst match on Collision was
Speaker 1: thunder Rosa and Penelope Ford. Okay, this was one of
Speaker 1: those matches where if you turn the sound down and
Speaker 1: watch this match, it was a bad match. Like they
Speaker 1: got lost. They didn't know what was going on. They
Speaker 1: just stood there and looked at each other regularly. It
Speaker 1: looked like Penelope got killed multiple times. But sh turn
Speaker 1: the volume up. These fans weren't in this match from
Speaker 1: start to finish. And in fact, this women's match Penelope
Speaker 1: Ford and thunder Rosa had way better heat then the
Speaker 1: TV return of Alexa Bliss on SmackDown. They did Alexa
Speaker 1: Bliss versus Candace in an elimination chamber qualifier, Alexa's first
Speaker 1: match on television in forever. That crowd was dead. But man,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they were super into thunder Rose I'm
Speaker 1: Texas and Penelope Ford, and literally that was the worst
Speaker 1: thing on the show. Everything else on the show. You know,
Speaker 1: people hate the death Riders. All they do is complain.
Speaker 1: They did that angle at the beginning of the show
Speaker 1: where Moxley came out and him and Marina are like
Speaker 1: beaten up geeks. This fricking guy got so much heat
Speaker 1: and he hyped up the match at the Australia show,
Speaker 1: and I mean that was just what helped.
Speaker 3: He hit and ran as fast as mocks he could
Speaker 3: go in this day and age with his promos, and
Speaker 3: it actually made it more intense and it made it
Speaker 3: feel I don't want to say made it feel more
Speaker 3: dangerous or anything, but the fact he was in there
Speaker 3: and out of there so fast it actually to me
Speaker 3: played everything up better.
Speaker 1: It was a hot segment we had Undisputed Era. They
Speaker 1: actually got a big win Shane Taylor Promotions, Dale Garcia,
Speaker 1: Daddy Magic. It was a great wild party match, and
Speaker 1: then afterwards they got attacked by Wheeler Pock and Claudio
Speaker 1: and they set up a trios title match on Dynamite.
Speaker 1: Mike Gut tells me, if you put a gun to
Speaker 1: my head, I would say that Wheeler, Pock and Claudio
Speaker 1: are retaining the titles, but Undispeted Era should win them
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Yeah, I'm telling you they should win on day.
Speaker 3: Wheeler is being played for a fool. It's not like
Speaker 3: he's gained any ground inside that group. He just continues
Speaker 3: to lose it and get pushed around him taking an
Speaker 3: l after getting laid out by everybody because his partners
Speaker 3: weren't there for whatever reason that can make some sense,
Speaker 3: and again he just gets the title into the mix
Speaker 3: of being defended.
Speaker 1: We had Bendido and Brian Keith, which not only was
Speaker 1: like a great little match, but like it's one of
Speaker 1: those matches where when you watch it, when it's over all,
Speaker 1: you can think, is this Bandido is like top ten
Speaker 1: in this company? He should be pushed hard.
Speaker 3: He's special.
Speaker 1: But I've thought that many many times and been unimpressed
Speaker 1: with the follow up. So we shall see. But for
Speaker 1: this night on this show, this was great. We had
Speaker 1: a LFI squash and then we got the hilarious return
Speaker 1: of what's his name? Commander Hologram.
Speaker 3: I don't want Brian, dude.
Speaker 1: Commander's getting murdered and Hologram decides to make the save
Speaker 1: after he airs his expertly put together video of himself
Speaker 1: and like they actually cut to the ring at one
Speaker 1: point during like right after the video ended, and Commander
Speaker 1: was being murdered the entire time, and Hologram finally comes
Speaker 1: out to save this port.
Speaker 3: The only thing missing was him doing a Jeff Hardy
Speaker 3: dance like when he came out to save his brother
Speaker 3: or whatever it was.
Speaker 1: We had halftime Harley where she sang a song on
Speaker 1: an off tune guitar and it made Mercedes very upset,
Speaker 1: and finally she decks her and Mercedes accepts the match
Speaker 1: for Grand Slam.
Speaker 3: She's right, she does make Mercedes good just with her around.
Speaker 1: I liked the segment. I would have liked it better
Speaker 1: if they would have thought of this in advance and
Speaker 1: given Harley maybe like a second win in her career.
Speaker 1: On this show, we had some promos with Buddy Nocatta
Speaker 1: and Dustin all good promos. It was good stuff. And
Speaker 1: then as noted, we had the Penelope Fod thunder rosa wait,
Speaker 1: a hilarious segment speaking of Trill Old Trillberger's backstage.
Speaker 3: Bun b bun b.
Speaker 1: Of Trill Burgers is there and rick Achet shows up says,
Speaker 1: I think your burgers. Let me let me try. When
Speaker 1: he tastes it, he spits it out tremendous heat, and
Speaker 1: one of the workers there goes, well, everyone seems to
Speaker 1: like him, and so Ricky Jay grabs his guy and
Speaker 1: he beats a crap out of him and uh, and
Speaker 1: then he cuts a promo old bun B and then
Speaker 1: he leaves and bun B is so concerned. Then he
Speaker 1: turns to this poor guy that got beat up and
Speaker 1: he's like, get your ass up, Burgers to cook.
Speaker 3: Got a cloud through bother.
Speaker 1: Shay Carmichael and Mariah May. Mariah beats her up. Shay
Speaker 1: is dressed like Tony and like, none of this has
Speaker 1: explained why we have to guess and the announcers are
Speaker 1: clueless or like did she dress like Tony on purpose
Speaker 1: or did Mariah Maker dress like? No one knows. So
Speaker 1: Mariah beats her and then Luther comes out with the
Speaker 1: bloody shoe, and you know, Mariah gets mad. She goes
Speaker 1: to beat up the jobber again, but Tony has traded
Speaker 1: places with the jobber and nobody noticed because they did
Speaker 1: such a good misdirection with Luther, and she runs wild.
Speaker 1: Mariah goes running. It's a good segment. And then the
Speaker 1: main event was Kyle Fletcher Mark Briscoe Freakin' awesome match,
Speaker 1: I mean, unbelievably great. Mark Briscoe is awesome and Kyle
Speaker 1: Fletcher ends up pinning him with the top rope Brainbuster
Speaker 1: and then vowing next week he will not only beat
Speaker 1: Osprey Omega, but he will prove that they are no
Speaker 1: longer the future. He is best Collision in forever. Back
Speaker 1: in a moment, obs.
Speaker 2: Reliable, you were listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian
Speaker 2: Alvarez and Mike simperviv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 1: God, he miss Lenny. He just popped me right before
Speaker 1: we went on the air.
Speaker 3: You know that.
Speaker 1: You know the tag team of the Year is Lenny
Speaker 1: and l H thirty three ten. Yeah, they're teaming up
Speaker 1: right now against casual fans.
Speaker 3: This is this is the news that a person's name
Speaker 3: in there.
Speaker 1: One of the problems with AW is these casual fans, Jay,
Speaker 1: they they We don't want them catering to these casuals.
Speaker 1: We want no casuals. Get them out of here. Casuals
Speaker 1: are convinced the entering stuff doesn't matter, says Lenny. Casuals
Speaker 1: are the lowest common denominator of fans in the grand scheme.
Speaker 3: Aren't they all run off? Now? Lenny, isn't that where
Speaker 3: you're down?
Speaker 1: Do? Now?
Speaker 3: What did Collision get last week? You know what?
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what he's you know Lenny's not gonna
Speaker 1: have casual fan listeners to his podcast.
Speaker 3: On Subjective Subjective.
Speaker 1: Objectively Lenny, Yes, how many will get? How many sickohs?
Speaker 3: Those casuals of the podcast?
Speaker 1: God, these casuals, they're the worst kind of fan. How
Speaker 1: dare they enjoy wrestling unless they don't enjoy it like me?
Speaker 1: Just casually enjoy it? Ridiculous? Ah uh Hey, you know
Speaker 1: it's Monday, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feel like it.
Speaker 1: So Tonight it's gonna be uh Wrestling Observer Radio. With
Speaker 1: Day We're gonna talk about raw Men's Elimination Chamber with
Speaker 1: Ray Masterio and Logan Paul, Tonight Bailey and Lyra, also
Speaker 1: the return of Dakota Kai and e O Versus Livin
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Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 1: This time tomorrow we're gonna be talking about how Hiroki
Speaker 1: Goto defeated Zach Saber Junior for the iw GP heavyweight title.
Speaker 3: Do it for the old man, Haroki, God, do it
Speaker 3: for Goss.
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