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Speaker 1: Hey there everyone, and welcome to the Betting Pros NFL podcast,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by play MGM. I am your host,

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Speaker 1: Dan Harris. You can find me on Twitter at Dan Harris.

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Speaker 1: Ady with me today is my very good friend who

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Speaker 1: if you play fantasy football you already know and love,

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Speaker 1: Mike Taglier. You can find him on Twitter at Mike

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Speaker 1: Tagli air NFL tags.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, buddy, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Doing good man. I don't think that you realize just

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Speaker 3: how much of a degenerate you are until you sit

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Speaker 3: down and you stalk beat writers Twitter reports, because like,

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Speaker 3: I'm playing preseason dfs tonight and uh yeah, so I've

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Speaker 3: become a stalker of beat writers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Preseason is always sort of the toughest thing to do, right,

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Speaker 1: That's where you have to pay, frankly, the most attention

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Speaker 1: because you have no idea who's actually going to play,

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Speaker 1: what the team's plan is going to be doing. But

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Speaker 1: it's a busy day with this is how. We're recording

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Speaker 1: this on Wednesday. No, sorry, it's Thursday, right, yep, what

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Speaker 1: day is it?

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Speaker 2: Good lord?

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Speaker 1: We're recording this on Thursday night, So there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of preseason action to come. So I'm glad you're going

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Speaker 1: to be involved, but really, TEGs, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: talk about that. This is what I want to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Text.

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Speaker 1: You are married, of course, to a lovely lady. You

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Speaker 1: have two beautiful children, and you work full time as

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Speaker 1: a fantasy football analyst. But I need to ask, where

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Speaker 1: do you think being on the inaugural episode of the

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Speaker 1: Betting Pros podcast or ranks in terms of great moments

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Speaker 1: in your life? Now, I assume, like me, your wife

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Speaker 1: doesn't listen to your podcast and stuff, right, so you

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Speaker 1: can be honest, this is what top three ish.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it might be the top three thing that

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Speaker 3: happened today.

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Speaker 2: This is so disappointing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, I'm gonna get in touch

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Speaker 1: with our producers because I really wanted you for the

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Speaker 1: first episode. But it's clearly a mistake. I want you

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Speaker 1: to know, Tex. But obviously there's a disparity here because

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Speaker 1: for me, this is actually the sixth best moment of

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Speaker 1: my life, and I'm gonna I'm gonna give you the

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Speaker 1: few that it's behind. Okay, Number one the first time

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Speaker 1: I tried to shake Shack Burger. Okay, because that was

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Speaker 1: for me pretty life changing. Number two the time Chad

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Speaker 1: Pennington told me that I had great hair. That really

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Speaker 1: I have lived on that for several years at this point.

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Speaker 1: Number three the time that the lady at Coldstone Creamery

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Speaker 1: said that I could just reuse the buy one, get

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Speaker 1: one coupon every day for the next three days until

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Speaker 1: the coupon expired. Number four the time that Marshaw Lynch

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Speaker 1: did that insane run in Week sixteen against the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: at the end of the game, and that capped off

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Speaker 1: my most dramatic Fantasy win of all time. Do you

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Speaker 1: remember that one? Like Chris Collinsworth is literally just laughing

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Speaker 1: at the time that it was my avatar for my

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Speaker 1: fantasy leagues have literally just been Marshall Lynch jumping backward

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Speaker 1: into the end zone making a pretty inappropriate gesture.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's fine.

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Speaker 1: And number five was the day that I learned that

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Speaker 1: normal shoe companies now make like the large clown shoes

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Speaker 1: that I wear that were like extra wide, so I

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Speaker 1: didn't have to order like plain white orthopedic shoes online

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Speaker 1: at number six. It's a little disappointing to hear how

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Speaker 1: little you value our interaction here. But I gotta be honest,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of pressure on you here because this

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Speaker 1: is very meaningful to me. So you're going to have

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Speaker 1: to deliver today. Are you okay with that?

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Speaker 3: Well, we are the two best friends that anyone can have.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if Bobby's listening, that includes Bobby, that includes you.

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Speaker 3: We are the two best friends. You would be the

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Speaker 3: third best friend.

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Speaker 1: That's true, And we were actually singing that offline before

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Speaker 3: Absolutely true.

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Speaker 1: So today we're going to be talking about some NFC

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Speaker 1: over under win totals, each giving a few of our

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Speaker 1: favorite bets for the upcoming season. Now, I am excited

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Speaker 1: for this inaugural show, as I just said, and for

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Speaker 1: much of the preseason, this is what we're going to

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Speaker 1: be doing on this podcast, talking about some of our

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Speaker 1: best bets for the season. But for our next show,

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Speaker 1: So tag's the first thing I want to do is

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Speaker 1: gambling impacts you as a fantasy analyst generally. So why

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Speaker 1: don't you you know? Because I read your primer every week,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a really good question, Dan. This is something

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Speaker 3: that legitimately kept me up at night. And I'm not

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Speaker 3: I wanted to break that apart into averages based on

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Speaker 3: it definitely has an effect on fantasy output as you

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Speaker 3: So you're talking about a difference of like forty fantasy

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Speaker 3: to where if you're ever torn between you know two players,

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Speaker 3: you should definitely use the over under to help you

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Speaker 3: decide that, particularly in DFS, because as we've seen, you know,

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Speaker 3: in this research that I've done, that small sample size,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really great point. And frankly, that research,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know they are you know, you mentioned

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Speaker 1: But in the end, you know, the lines move, you know,

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Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, And you have to like it's all about

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Speaker 3: correlation and you have to find those things that correlate,

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Speaker 3: point underdog. The correlation with that is terrible in terms

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Speaker 3: the big favorite should be bumped up in your rankings

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Speaker 3: a little bit and you should be more you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah that those are great points, And I've been doing

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Speaker 1: that now for a couple of years, and it really

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Speaker 1: really does make a difference, especially in DFS. So the

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Speaker 1: big number, but for me, even them getting there, it

435
00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,280
Speaker 1: feels like almost everything needs to break right.

436
00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,320
Speaker 3: I would tend to agree with you. I don't see

437
00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,159
Speaker 3: a strong point in this team at all outside of

438
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,880
Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley. Like that defense is decimated. Their cornerback depth

439
00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,680
Speaker 3: chart is a joke. They have two new safeties. Safeties

440
00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,280
Speaker 3: are kind of like an offensive line to me, where

441
00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,320
Speaker 3: it's like the continuity the communication between those guys. To

442
00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,679
Speaker 3: have continuity there, it means a lot. And you know,

443
00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,240
Speaker 3: when you have two new safeties, or even if you

444
00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,800
Speaker 3: replaced one, it's they're playing as a new group and

445
00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,119
Speaker 3: there can be miscommunications over the top, And uh, yeah,

446
00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,119
Speaker 3: I am with you on this one. I actually had

447
00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,239
Speaker 3: the Giants there, they weren't there. They would have been

448
00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,320
Speaker 3: my like number four pick the NFC teams. But I'm

449
00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:17,440
Speaker 3: definitely with you on that one.

450
00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,359
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just, you know, literally as good as

451
00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,280
Speaker 1: Saquon is, how you know, how is he ever not

452
00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,679
Speaker 1: going to see a completely stacked box? How is he

453
00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,199
Speaker 1: ever not going to have a spy on him? No

454
00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,280
Speaker 1: matter what happens, they have no weapons out there other

455
00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,640
Speaker 1: than Ingram. It's really just something where it's really hard

456
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,960
Speaker 1: to see a scenario where they get to even six wins.

457
00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,359
Speaker 1: And again that's a low total, a really really low total.

458
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,560
Speaker 1: It's five and a half. I mean, six wins is

459
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,719
Speaker 1: nothing you can kind of fall into it. But you know,

460
00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,199
Speaker 1: this team is almost kind of historically bad in the

461
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,239
Speaker 1: way that I look at it. So that's certainly one

462
00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,760
Speaker 1: of my strong ones. How about you, what's number three

463
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:51,960
Speaker 1: for you?

464
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,120
Speaker 3: Yeah? Number three is Philadelphia? And again this is it's

465
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,200
Speaker 3: really tough to say that a seams gonna win double

466
00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 3: digit games, but Philadelphia the line at nine and a half.

467
00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 3: I like it because nine and seven is what they

468
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,560
Speaker 3: went last year. They legitimately were down like four of

469
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,959
Speaker 3: their five top cornerbacks at one point in the season.

470
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 3: They lost Carson Wentz, you know, they had some injuries

471
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,919
Speaker 3: to the wide receivers. There were so many things that

472
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 3: anything that could have went wrong essentially for the Eagles

473
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 3: last year, did go wrong, and they still went nine

474
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 3: to seven. Doug Peterson has proven that he's a phenomenal coach.

475
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,080
Speaker 3: He has this team well prepared. Next man up on

476
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,920
Speaker 3: the depth chart, Okay, you're gonna step in, You're gonna

477
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,399
Speaker 3: do this, and they do it. But they've upgraded their roster.

478
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,600
Speaker 3: They're actually they're going to walk in healthy. They have

479
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 3: Miles Sanders now, who's a true three down back. They

480
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,719
Speaker 3: don't have to necessarily rotate and be predictive with their

481
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 3: running backs. Carson Wentz seems to be like fully healthy.

482
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,439
Speaker 3: Adding to Shawn Jackson is massive for that offense. He

483
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 3: may not be the best fantasy player this year, but

484
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,920
Speaker 3: in terms from a real football standpoint, DeShawn Jackson changes

485
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 3: the way that you approach an offense. And if he's

486
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 3: able to stretch the field and pull a safety his way,

487
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 3: that means Alshon Jeffery is going to be in man coverage,

488
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 3: Nelson Agler is back in the slot where he belongs.

489
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 3: You know, they tried pushing him outside when they traded

490
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 3: for Golden Tate last year. The Eagles just tried to doing

491
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 3: everything that they possibly could last year, and they just

492
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,919
Speaker 3: they came up short, and they made it a lot

493
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 3: further than a lot of other teams would have. But

494
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,159
Speaker 3: knowing that Dallas is probably gonna be without Ezekiel Elliott,

495
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 3: it seems right now, knowing that, you know, the Giants,

496
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,400
Speaker 3: as we just talked about, not a good football team,

497
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 3: the Washington Redskins are a terrible football team as well.

498
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 3: It seems like they're gonna be starting Colt McCoy. We've

499
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 3: seen this story before. So I think the Eagles I

500
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 3: would take the over. And I was surprised to see

501
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 3: that seventy one percent of experts agree with me on

502
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:25,640
Speaker 3: that one.

503
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 2: You were surprised to see that.

504
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,199
Speaker 3: I was just because it's it is really tough to

505
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 3: predict ten wins for a team.

506
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 1: I know, but tex they basically got four in the bank, right,

507
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you know you can't say that about most.

508
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 1: Seems like you said, with Washington and with the Giants, right,

509
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 1: I mean, can you really realistically, can you see any

510
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 1: scenario absent catastrophic injury, where they league where they lose

511
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 1: any of those games those four games?

512
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 3: I would like to say, No. I mean, I'm sure

513
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 3: there's probably one, because there's always that one that you're

514
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 3: just like, how'd that get away? But division like.

515
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 1: When the Bills, but when the Bills beat the Vikings.

516
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 3: Or like when the Dolphins beat the Patriots or the

517
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 3: Dolphins beat the Bears. Yeah, that was fun.

518
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: Now, I guess that that's it's fair. But no, I

519
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 1: mean when I that's certainly a great one. That was

520
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 1: one of mine. For sure, I would not at all

521
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 1: be surprised at the seventy one percent mark because I

522
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 1: feel pretty strongly about that. Again, it's just you know, yes,

523
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: of course there's a possibility. But for the most part,

524
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 1: there are a handful of teams that you're gonna be

525
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 1: able to really pick on this year, and you know,

526
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 1: the Eagles are in a division with two of them,

527
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 1: and you know the fact that they get four games

528
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 1: against them really makes a difference for me. You know, again,

529
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,400
Speaker 1: this is one where I think most people are gonna

530
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 1: look at the number and they're gonna think the number

531
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 1: is pretty on and that's the Packers over nine. Again,

532
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 1: this is not a half, this is nine. So again

533
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 1: part of my thinking here is if you hit the

534
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: number when it's not a half and you push, you're fine.

535
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: You haven't lost any money or anything like that. So

536
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 1: this is one of the ways that I like it,

537
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: and I do expect them to go over Now I'm

538
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 1: not I'm not going overboard with this one.

539
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 2: I do have actual.

540
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 1: Personal money in it. When I went to Vegas, this

541
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 1: was one of the ones that I placed. The schedule

542
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 1: is certainly rough. I mean, you know, we've talked about

543
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 1: the North. They get the Bears and the Vikings. They

544
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: play the Eagles, they play the Cowboy, they played the Chiefs,

545
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 1: they played the Chargers. It's not, by any means an

546
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: easy schedule. But you know, the loss of Mike McCarthy

547
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: is basically worth like three wins at this point. I

548
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: don't even know how Matt Lafleur is going to be

549
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: as a coach, but I don't really care. More so

550
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: even than the offense, although the offense is something, is

551
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: that the defense. I mean, they were allowing twenty five

552
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: points per game last year and they just added a

553
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: heck of a lot to that defense. I've got Zadarius

554
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 1: Smith and Preston Smith, Adriana Mike Daniels. For whatever reason, right,

555
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 1: that was a little weird. I don't know, Tags, actually,

556
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 1: I've been meaning to talk to about it. Do you

557
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: have insight into why they did that?

558
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 3: I don't. I think it was idiotic and now he

559
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 3: signs with your division rival like, way to go, dummies.

560
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 3: I mean, didn't make any sense to me. None.

561
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it didn't to me either. But it doesn't

562
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 1: change the fact that I still think, you know, and

563
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 1: their draft with Rashaun Gary, and I really think that

564
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: in the end, their defense is going to be so

565
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 1: much better than last year. And more than that, I

566
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: know Rogers is getting up there. I just have this feeling, Tags,

567
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna come out and he's gonna go

568
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 1: nuts because I think that he is so motivated to

569
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: basically show that McCarthy was really the cause of the

570
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: is Now he was injured, of course, and he gets

571
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 1: injured fairly regularly, but I think that this is going

572
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: to be a ginormous year for Aaron Rodgers. Again, the

573
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: schedule is tough, I completely agree, but I think with

574
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: that defense sort of, you know, getting so much better

575
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: from last year, and with Rogers being motivated and with

576
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones for the entire season, I really think that

577
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: this is going to be a big year for them.

578
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: And again, the way I look.

579
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: At this sort of thing is I don't mind placing

580
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: a bet where I feel pretty confident we're gonna win.

581
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: But I feel really confident that it's not gonna lose,

582
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: you know, because I think the number nine is going

583
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: to be hit. I don't see them as a five

584
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 1: hundred team. I think they're going to be above despite

585
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: the division. Of course they can beat up on the Lions.

586
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: Is essentially for the reasons that you said. But for me,

587
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: you know, I think nine is a good number. I

588
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: know why it's set there, but I'm I feel pretty

589
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 1: comfortable that they're going to get to ten wins.

590
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 3: I wish I could refer you in this situation, but

591
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: I cannot. But I don't know if I could. The

592
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 3: nine line, I don't like if it was eight and

593
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 3: a half and you want to say nine to seven, Okay,

594
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 3: I can't see ten wins in this division from them.

595
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, they have some talent on the defense now,

596
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: but there's there's still a lot of young guys that

597
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 3: are still somewhat unproven. You could say that you liked

598
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 3: him as a prospect or you like them their potential,

599
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,479
Speaker 3: but they may not all come together. The safeties are

600
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 3: also a big question mark. Again, they drafted. They drafted

601
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 3: some players in the defense, which should help, but again

602
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 3: in that tough division. Don't I don't know why Matt

603
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 3: Leafleour got a head coaching job. I mean, I'm gonna

604
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 3: be real honest about that. Like, I'm not saying that

605
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 3: he won't turn out to be a good coach. He could.

606
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 3: He could, but I just don't understand how he got

607
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 3: that job. Like, did anybody watch the Titans offense last year?

608
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 3: It wasn't good. And I know that people want to

609
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 3: blame Marcus Mariota, and that's fine. I remember when people

610
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 3: were blaming Jared Goff for being bad under Jeff Fisher

611
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 3: and then like Sean McVay came in. That's where people

612
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 3: are going wrong with Matt Lafleur is that they're believing

613
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 3: that he had something to do with the Rams. Now

614
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: he was under Sean McVay, he hit the title of

615
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator, but he was not calling the place. Sean

616
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 3: McVay is always called the plays there, and then Lafloor

617
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 3: he just got too cute, like trying to do things

618
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 3: like mixing and matching Dion Lewis and Derrick Henry. And

619
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 3: I thought he may have learned his lesson at the

620
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 3: end of the season by you know, like when you

621
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 3: watch Derrick Henry, I know they had good game scripts

622
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 3: in them, but he kept Derrick Henry on the field

623
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 3: and good things happened because of it. And now that

624
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 3: he went to Green Bay, I'm like, Okay, he had

625
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 3: to have learned right. And anybody that's watched football knows

626
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: that Aaron Jones is the best running back on that

627
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 3: roster and it's not even all that close. And Mike

628
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 3: McCarthy was all about, oh he's got a past block

629
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 3: and this, and it's a bunch of garbage. Mike McCarthy

630
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 3: was a terrible coach.

631
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really, I want to ask you text legitimately

632
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 1: last year, how many coaches were worse than Mike McCarthy.

633
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 3: No, No, it's not even just last year. Like I so,

634
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 3: I came out with an article before last season, so

635
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 3: it wasn't like it wasn't like, oh, you just said

636
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 3: that because they suck no No. Before last season, I

637
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 3: came out with an article and I had McCarthy as

638
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 3: a bottom I think it was bottom six head coach

639
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 3: in the league. And everybody's like, how are you going

640
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 3: to say that they've been to the playoffs? Blah blah.

641
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, it's it's really easy to say that when

642
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 3: you have Aaron Rodgers and Brett Farv like throughout your career,

643
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 3: like you've you've literally been handed a gift on a

644
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 3: silver platter and you've done nothing with it, Like Rogers

645
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: has won Super Bowl. That's pathetic.

646
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know they were obviously talking about him

647
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: possibly coming to the Jets, and so when we hired Gates,

648
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: I was like doing cartwheels because legitimately I'm not a

649
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: gays fan, of course, but anybody was better for me

650
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: than Mike McCarthy, And I think that's sort of my point.

651
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: I don't really care that much about matt leafore, because

652
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 1: I think legitimately, addition by subtraction, getting rid of Mike McCarthy,

653
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: even if you turn the offense over entirely to Rogers

654
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: and let him do what he wants. I just think,

655
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: especially with the increased defense, you know, with how good

656
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: they're gonna be there, I really just expect this. They're

657
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 1: gonna I think they're gonna, you know, surpass expectations. I remember,

658
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,479
Speaker 1: they do have a lot of tough games on their schedule,

659
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: but you know, they also play the East, they get

660
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: the Giants, they get the Redskins, are they get the Raiders?

661
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: You know, there's a ton of really winnable games out there.

662
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: And you know, look, I mean neither one of us.

663
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: My guess is you're probably gonna come with me. I

664
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: believe the Bears are set at eight at the over

665
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: under eight?

666
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 4: Right?

667
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: And what they win twelve last year? Or are they

668
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: nine there?

669
00:27:58,440 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 3: Oh last year?

670
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: No? No, no they're not.

671
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're at nine this year.

672
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: Okay, And what do you think about that? That sounds

673
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: to me about right.

674
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 3: It's about right. Yeah, That's what I'm saying. Like them,

675
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 3: and I could see Minnesota being right there at nine

676
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 3: ten ten wins, Like if the Bears or the Vikings

677
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 3: won nine or ten games, I would like that's that

678
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 3: seems about right. I just don't think that they can

679
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 3: all win nine or ten games. I think there's gonna

680
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 3: be one or two teams that disappoint. And if there's

681
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 3: one coach that I know that I don't like very much,

682
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: it's it's Matt Lafleur so far from what I've seen,

683
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 3: because I just don't know if he's competent enough. And

684
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 3: granted he has what I consider to be the most

685
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 3: talented quarterback of all time during the football And that's

686
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 3: the part of me that's like it really sucks because,

687
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: like Aaron, I've had Rogers and far of in my

688
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 3: in the division with the Bears for such a long time,

689
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: and I appreciate the hell out of both those guys.

690
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: Like Brett Favre is a warrior, he was more of

691
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 3: a gunslinger, But Aaron Rodgers the most talented quarterback I've

692
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 3: ever seen play the game. And I would love nothing

693
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 3: more than Rogers to like show the world like I

694
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 3: am an elite quarterback, Like what do you like? People

695
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 3: are like so downplaying Aaron Rodgers this year, Like even

696
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 3: in fantasy football, he's falling to like the fourth or

697
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 3: fifth quarterback off the board this year, and I'm like,

698
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: did you guys forget who this guy is? Like just

699
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 3: because of one bad year? And and by the way,

700
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: we're calling it a bad year. He had twenty five

701
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: touchdowns and two interceptions.

702
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: Also, he was playing on one leg the whole year.

703
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, that's everybody's kind of forgetting that,

704
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: and that is also sort of the point.

705
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: And I agree with you. I mean, Rogers.

706
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: You know, we talk about best quarterback you know, of

707
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: all time all the time, and there's the whole Brady thing,

708
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: of course, but Rogers is certainly, if not the best,

709
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: but the most talented maybe quarterback of all time, and

710
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: he can do things with the football that really nobody

711
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: else in the game can do. To me, man, Look again,

712
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: part of it is anecdotal, and it really is. I

713
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: mean again, but I just feel like this is going

714
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: to be the year. This is going to be a

715
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: big year for them. And I agree, I'm not a

716
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur fan, but I don't really care. I just

717
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: think that things are going to be so much better

718
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: for them. And again, I think Mike McCarthy has been

719
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: a terrible coach for a long time, as you said.

720
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: And they were still, of course a very successful football team.

721
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't win they only won one Super Bowl,

722
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: but they were a good team year after year, and

723
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: I think Rodgers has enough to do that. Now I'll

724
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: back with a good defense. I really think that they're

725
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: going to get over the nine. And again I really

726
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: to me, I could be wrong here, but I really

727
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: just I don't see them being a five hundred football team.

728
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: I see them at least getting to nine wins, which

729
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: again to me, means fine, I'm safe. It's a push.

730
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Speaker 1: No matter what happens after that, I think we're gonna

731
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: be out.

732
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

733
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Speaker 3: So when you have an A league quarterback like him,

734
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 3: a nine wins as well within reach for sure. It's

735
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Speaker 3: just getting to that ten that's a problem.

736
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Speaker 1: I think that that is a fair point, especially because

737
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: again I'm also bullish on the Vikings and I'm not

738
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: bearish on the Bears. Hey that worth, but you know,

739
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not probably you know, I think the numbers

740
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: probably right. I might go under for the eight wins,

741
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: but we'll see, all right. So are there any other

742
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: over unders that stuck out to you as something that

743
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Speaker 1: you think would be enticing or were those really the

744
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: three that caught your eyes?

745
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 3: Those were the ones that were really big, Like, like

746
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: I said, the Giants, I would have taken the under

747
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 3: on the Giants. I also got down to the forty

748
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 3: nine ers at seven and a half wins, and I

749
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 3: was like, I think I'd go the under on that.

750
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Speaker 2: I mean, Cole, they had a bad day. They had

751
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: a bad day today. Tags.

752
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: I mean, if you you know McKinnon, I saw that,

753
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: you know, sounds like he may need to go on

754
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: the IR because they can't place him back on the

755
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: pup list. He's dealing with some problems. I think was

756
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: Jason Barrett.

757
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: Verrett, He's they're saying it's an angle sprain, but I

758
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 3: think they did sign someone in order to like at

759
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: least have a body, and that's that's terrible because they.

760
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: Have zero depth a corner right exactly.

761
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: That's why I was wondering. It's like, you guys just

762
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 3: have to a punter. What was it in the fourth

763
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 3: round And I was like, wait, you guys could have

764
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: taken some cornerback depth, Like what are you doing?

765
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 4: Right?

766
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 3: I felt like that's a roster that. I mean, their

767
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 3: front seven got a lot better this offseason, so that's

768
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 3: always a positive, but the back end is not good.

769
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: Jimmy Garoppolo we still never seen him play over well

770
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 3: over an entire season. Kyle Shanahan, while he was a

771
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: great offensive coordinator, I think there's certain people in his life,

772
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 3: like in this world, that are just destined to be

773
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 3: coordinators rather than head coaches. And I'm not saying that

774
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan is one of those because he's had a

775
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 3: lot of injuries to his key players. But it's very possible.

776
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: Like think about it, Hugh Jackson was considered a really

777
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: good offensive coordinator, and he was like one of the

778
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 3: worst head coaches of all time. I just think certain

779
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: guys would just handle the jobs so much better when

780
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 3: they could focus just on their offense. I hope Kyle

781
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: Shanan's not one of those guys, because I wanted to

782
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 3: see him succeed in that role. But seven and a

783
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: half wins, I mean, when you have the Rams, the Seahawks,

784
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 3: I mean, the Cardinals are whatever. They could be a

785
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: surprise team this year if that offense takes.

786
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: Actually held on held on before that's exactly right. I

787
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: do want to ask you a little bit before you

788
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: know we start wrapping up here. I do want to

789
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: ask you about some of the other teams. The Cardinals

790
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: are at five games. What do you think about the

791
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: over under und.

792
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: I actually debated saying the over on the show. And

793
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 3: then I was looking at their schedule and I was

794
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 3: going through like pickout games, and there was only like

795
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 3: four that I could say like, I for sure saw

796
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: them winning. But the thing is is they they can surprise,

797
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: Like absolutely, I feel like that's a team where they

798
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 3: can catch teams by surprise. You know, they're playing Detroit

799
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: week one, and Detroit they can beat Detroit, all right.

800
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 3: They played Baltimore in Week two. That's another that's a

801
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 3: run heavy team. The Baltimore defense lost a lot of

802
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 3: pieces this year. I think they can potentially surprise Baltimore,

803
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 3: not saying they will win that game. Carolina, again, that's

804
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 3: a team that's re building. Get like they've gotten a

805
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: lot younger. They should. That should be a pretty good

806
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: game between those two teams. They have Cincinnati and that,

807
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 3: so it's like if they get off to a little

808
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 3: hot start, it's like they could build some momentum. I

809
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 3: could see six and ten for them one hundred percent.

810
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: But it's just do I want to put money on it?

811
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 3: Because I don't. I So when Kyler Murray was drafted

812
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 3: the number one overall, I didn't think that he in

813
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 3: most draft classes, he would not have been number one overall.

814
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 3: I think this is a week class. I'm not a

815
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: huge Kyler Murray guy. I might be wrong on that,

816
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 3: but what I saw in college was a guy that

817
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: didn't anticipate his throws very much. He basically had he

818
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 3: bought time with his legs. He did have a good

819
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: offensive line there, he had a receiver that can shake

820
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 3: loose if any defender and Marquis Brown if he bought

821
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: some time and he just waited till players were open

822
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 3: too much. There was no anticipation like in a route.

823
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 3: And I don't know how that's gonna work. I know

824
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: Kingsbury people are excited about it, and it might work,

825
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 3: you know, the air raid offense, the four or five

826
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 3: wide receiver sets, whatever you want to do. But that's

827
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 3: where it's like the whole Chip Kelly business where it's like,

828
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 3: you know, nobody really knows what they're doing and they

829
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 3: are gonna They're not showing anything the preseason from what

830
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 3: we understand, so.

831
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: Right, but you know, Kelly was successful when he first

832
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: came in, I mean catch up, right, and but it

833
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 1: took it took a year, It took a couple of years.

834
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: That's that's kind of how why I You know, the

835
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: way you have described your feeling on the Cardinals is

836
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: exactly how I feel, because I really wanted to take

837
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: the number over five. I mean that is such a

838
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: lot number. Yeah, you've already named a couple of normal games.

839
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: They also they played the Giants. I mean, they can

840
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: beat the Bucks. You know, you we really don't necessarily

841
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: know what that's gonna be, and they really can kind

842
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: of surprise you. But it is again another one where

843
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: I just said, I just can't do it because I

844
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: just I don't feel confident enough in what's going to

845
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 1: go on. And again the rest of the division, as

846
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: you said, the forty nine ers, I kind of feel

847
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: the same way as you do. But what I mean, look,

848
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: the the Seahawks are at eight and a half. Would

849
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 1: you go over under them?

850
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: I'd probably say over. I mean, like they've lost so

851
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,959
Speaker 3: much on defense. But Pete Carroll just always gets it done.

852
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: I mean, Wilson's never had a losing record, right, right,

853
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: He's always had nine wins or more.

854
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 3: Right.

855
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: And again, we kind of expected the same thing last year.

856
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: We expected that major decline.

857
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 3: Boom's gone and they still they still won nine games.

858
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: I know, now they've got no Doug Baldwin, you know,

859
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: and and NOWHEREL Thomas and everything like that, but you know,

860
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: they just do it every year. So it's really tough

861
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: to see them, especially in their home park. And I

862
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 1: do want to say one because I can almost guarantee

863
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: that we're going to disagree on this one. But what

864
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: would you do with the Rams at ten and a

865
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: half again?

866
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: I have to go under on that one.

867
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: I I'd go over. I'd go over.

868
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: Honestly, it's I don't feel super super strongly about them.

869
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily expect them to win thirteen games again.

870
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: And you know, in the end it comes down a

871
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: little bit too. That's a giant number, Okay. I mean

872
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: as much as you're like, well they won thirteen eleven

873
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: wins is a giant number, It'll just basically be like,

874
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: this is what's going to happen one hundred percent agree,

875
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: especially again in you know, with having to face Seattle,

876
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: it's going to be good. And you've got the question

877
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: mark around Gurley's knee. But I mean even last year,

878
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 1: man CJ. Anderson like just you know, just came off

879
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: the street kind of and just rumbled for one hundred

880
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: and sixty seven yards against the Cards and one hundred

881
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: and thirty two against the forty nine ers, and we

882
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: cut back and you know, they they I know they've

883
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: lost some Dominican Sue and la Marcus Joiner, but they

884
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: added Clay Matthews and Eric Weddle. To me, I just

885
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like they're gonna have another big season.

886
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: You get another year from GoF, You've still got Wade

887
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: Phillips on the defense, still got Aaron Donald. I kind

888
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: of just feel like they're gonna go over. But again,

889
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: this is one all of these on the NFC West,

890
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: they're all where I feel like I have an opinion,

891
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: but I can't really do it, you know what I mean,

892
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: I can't pull the trigger on being like this is

893
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: one that I feel confident in.

894
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would. It's tough for me to say any

895
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 3: team wins eleven games, like I understand it's definitely possible

896
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 3: losing Domakan Sue up front. I think that defense is

897
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 3: the weak point. I think that, and it's also it

898
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 3: could be like we're in it for the long run

899
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 3: type thing where it's like they've talked about resting Gurley

900
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 3: and if they do that and you know Darryl Henderson

901
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 3: isn't the player that they thought he was going to be,

902
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 3: or you know, they lose a step without Todd Gurley

903
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 3: that offensive line. They lost two starting offensive linemen this offseason.

904
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 3: That's a problem. Like there's things that are changing with

905
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 3: that team. And it's just to me, it's like ten

906
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 3: and six is cool, but like eleven and five, you're like, man,

907
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 3: it's You're like, Seattle's gonna beat you one of those games.

908
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 3: You know, you just know that's gonna happen. It's like,

909
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 3: does Arizona eke out a win against them? And I

910
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 3: know that LA actually has a really easy schedule at

911
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 3: the start the year, and then like it gets tougher

912
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 3: at the end. So I don't know, man, it's just

913
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 3: so tough to project somebody for That's why I went

914
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 3: New Orleans under ten and a half because I just can't.

915
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 3: I can't project them for eleven.

916
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: No, I agree with that.

917
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: Okay, how about we do this send Neither one of

918
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 1: us is willing, of course, to put any actual money

919
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: on this, So how about we make a little friendly

920
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: wager then on over under ten and a half for

921
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: the rams. I'll take the over, you take the under,

922
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 1: and the loser can get something for the winner from

923
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: Pristine Auction.

924
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: Sounds like a deal.

925
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: Okay, good That actually leads me, which is good to

926
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: our August contest, because I mean, look, if you've listened

927
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 1: to Tags on the Fantasy Pros podcast, you've heard about

928
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: Pristine Auction before.

929
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: They're great.

930
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: They auction off a ton of sports memorabilia, and if

931
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: you are not familiar with them, you can probably go

932
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: to Tags's house or my house and you would see

933
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: a ton of stuff because we love it there and

934
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: at We're gonna do a little contest here involving Christine

935
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 1: Auction for August, and we are going to give away

936
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: a full sized autographed Christian McCaffrey helmet. So all you

937
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: need to do to be entered into the contest is

938
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: to leave a review for the show on either iTunes

939
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: or Stitcher and send a screenshot of that review to

940
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 1: contest at Bettingpros dot com. At the end of August,

941
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna randomly choose a winner. And guys, understand this.

942
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: This is literally the inaugural episode, which means absolutely nothing

943
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 1: to Tags, but is like the highlight of my life.

944
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: You don't start a podcast with a ton of reviews

945
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: that are already sitting there. I mean, if you guys

946
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: go to leave a review, you might be one of

947
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: the first ten people to leave a review. So it's

948
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: not as if there are hundreds of people right now

949
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: who are going to be entering this contest. Go ahead,

950
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: leave a review and screenshot it and send it to

951
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: a contest at bettingpros dot com at the end of August.

952
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: We are going to pick a winner. And if you

953
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: are the winner, please make sure to at me on

954
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: Twitter with a picture the helmet because I kind of

955
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 1: want to see it myself.

956
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm getting a free Christian McCaffrey helmet and like

957
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: having like maybe like a one to twenty five chance

958
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: for like.

959
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 2: Come on that, That's what I'm saying.

960
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: And I said this, you know, I you know, I

961
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: host you know, the Leading Off podcast for baseball, And

962
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: that was sort of something that I wanted to stress

963
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: because when you're a new podcast, you're not sitting there

964
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: with a ton of reviews because you have just started.

965
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: You can go ahead, leave her you and send it

966
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: in and right it might be twenty five people it

967
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: might be fifty people. It takes two seconds and you

968
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: can win an autographed Christian McCaffrey helmet. I mean, that's awesome.

969
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: I'm out here, you know, obviously bidding to try to

970
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: you know, pay for signed memorabilia, and if you can

971
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: win it for free, there's really no reason not to

972
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: so tags. I mean, I'm a little miffed because this

973
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: was obviously not as important to you as it was

974
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,959
Speaker 1: to me. But I really I can't thank you enough

975
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: for joining me today. You know basically about as much

976
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: about football as pretty much any personal live except Chad Pennington,

977
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: who not only knows football but also great hair. As

978
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: I said, but I really love getting your take. I

979
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: really hope that we can talk more this season, and again,

980
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on and for probably being wrong on

981
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: the RAMS bet and giving me something great from Christine Auction.

982
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 3: It was my pleasure and I look forward to you

983
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 3: paying your end of the bet at the end of

984
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 3: the year.

985
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: Never gonna happen, buddy. Well, before diving back into some

986
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: other bets that we like for this season, for our

987
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: next episode, as I mentioned, we're going to be talking

988
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: to Dustin Galker about the sports betting landscape, generally where

989
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: we are, where we're headed, things like that. It's going

990
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: to be a great show, so make sure you subscribe

991
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: to the podcast so you don't miss an episode.

992
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 4: I'll talk to you then.

993
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: The fat and had cost them