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Speaker 1: funny because I'm always asked when you go back to

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Speaker 1: the Housewives. We've discussed this before, when you go back

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Speaker 1: to the Housewives, right, And I've done many different things successfully.

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Speaker 1: I have produced events for years and years. I mean

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Speaker 1: not get away from this housewife's vortex that I'm not

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Speaker 1: And I keep saying, you know, yeah, March ninety nine.

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Speaker 1: not like I'm saying, I just it's not something. It's like,

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Speaker 1: I see it on social media everywhere. Um. So I

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Speaker 1: You know, we play women playing supportive women on television.

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Speaker 1: So now you're gonna go in this book and start

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Speaker 1: where did we get? Then? I just said something shitty

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Speaker 1: set up a photo I in a movie I'm casting. Hey,

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Speaker 1: of Cheeter at the Regency Hotel. I never go uptown.

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Speaker 1: a Long Island? Oh? You do still live in Long Island?

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Speaker 1: I went to Wheatley. So when I saw glen Cove,

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Speaker 1: went upstairs to the room to go to readings. Um,

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00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 1: there was a nineteen inch r C A television which

426
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 1: was a huge piece of furniture at my grandmother's house.

427
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 1: So I happened to be staring in that direction away

428
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 1: from where so she was over here. I was looking

429
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 1: that direction while they were all talking, and the rest

430
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 1: of the family and the people that were getting ready

431
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 1: to be read by her, well kind of like nervous

432
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 1: and like like they were being like almost like a

433
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 1: schoolgirl who had a crush Um. And in my mind,

434
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, if you're so psychic, I want you to

435
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: ask me your question. If you're so psychic. I want

436
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 1: you to ask me your question, right. So I kept

437
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: saying that over no again, if you're so psychic, I

438
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: want you to ask me a question, right. So finally

439
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: she had her tea and she went like this, she

440
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 1: went John right, and I like looked over and I went,

441
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: uh huh. She goes, if you have a question for me,

442
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 1: I would be more than happy to address it. And

443
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 1: I remember going, now, I'm good, and I looked looked

444
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 1: at my mother like why she looking at me? Right?

445
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,719
Speaker 1: My mom had no idea what's doing this? So this

446
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 1: woman goes upstairs and there were seventeen people on the

447
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 1: list for her to read that day, so my grandmother

448
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 1: was like number nine. My grandmother, they came downstairs and

449
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 1: she was crying, and I looked at her and I went,

450
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: why are you Why are you upset? What did that

451
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: woman say to you to make you upset? And she says, no, no, no,

452
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: I'm not crying because i'm sad. I'm crying because I'm happy.

453
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 1: And I went, yeah, I don't really care why you're crying.

454
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 1: I want to know what she said to make you upset.

455
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 1: And she goes, she told me that Tony was with

456
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 1: me and that's your grandfather. No, I didn't know him.

457
00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: And so I was like, Grandma, Grandma, you were introduced

458
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: to her as Mrs Esposito, How big of a freaking

459
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: stretch do you think there is that there's gonna be

460
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 1: a tony somewhere in your family? Are you serious right now?

461
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 1: And she goes, if you don't believe me, If you

462
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: don't believe that your grandfather, who loved me more than

463
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: life itself, is still with me, that's your issue. How

464
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: would she know he was buried with the mandolin? I

465
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: didn't know that. So I was like, so I go

466
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: to my mother, I go, was your father buried with mandolin?

467
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: And she went yeah, why, I go, well, that lady

468
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,479
Speaker 1: told grandma that, And she goes, well, there's no way

469
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: she would know that. Now. I didn't settle for that.

470
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: I went to the list of people that went to

471
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: the readings before my grandmother. I wanted to see if

472
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: there was anybody on that list that could extrap that

473
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: she would have been able to extrapolate that information from

474
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: and then give it to the old lady in the house. Okay,

475
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 1: because it is how my brain works. Yeah, they were

476
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: all they were all like family. Friends. They're like friends.

477
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: Nobody would know that. So now I'm like, okay. Then

478
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: my cousin Rosanne goes. And when my cousin Roseanne goes,

479
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: and she's thirteen years older than I am, so at

480
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 1: that time, I'm fifteen, So she was ty eight. She

481
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: had had a lot of life experience that had some

482
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: things that had happened that like we're adult stuff. But

483
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: if you looked at her, you would have thought she

484
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: was like sixteen. Right. She comes down and she was like,

485
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: holy crap, like she knew this, this this right. And

486
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, come on, and this is before

487
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: Google everybody, this is before you, you know, social media,

488
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: like you can't look it up. And I looked at

489
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,479
Speaker 1: my cousin like no, no, no, you're like one of me.

490
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: Like you and I we bantered, we make fun of

491
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: these people, like like like what happened to you? And

492
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: she's like mmmmm. She was like she scared the shot

493
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: out of me. She's like she knew stuff that she

494
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 1: should not have known. She knew about this, she knew

495
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: about that. She's like, you need to go. I'm like no,

496
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: I'm like not happening. She's like, I will pay for

497
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: you to go. And in that moment, I looked at

498
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 1: my mother like can I And my mom said, you

499
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: can go, but you have to treat her with respect.

500
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I would treat her with respect.

501
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: I go, I'm just not gonna help her like all

502
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 1: of you. Right, So I go and I sit in

503
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: front of her, and she takes my high school ring

504
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: and she literally goes this. She takes a high school ring,

505
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: she puts it in her hands. She puts it to

506
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: her forehead right, which is the third eye. So if

507
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: people are not watching this and they can hear this,

508
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: it's like she's holds holding my ring and she puts

509
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: it up to her forehead. She looks down and proceeds

510
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,479
Speaker 1: to start giving me information, so she's not looking at me.

511
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: And all she says is the reason why I'm here today.

512
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 1: It's because I was told to come here to put

513
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: you on your path. You have highly evolved beings of

514
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: white and gold light that are ready to work with you,

515
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: and I'm here to help introduce you to what you're

516
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: going to do. You're going to change the way millions

517
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: of people look at this subject matter have Bethany, I'm

518
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: literally sitting there in the room and I'm like this,

519
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 1: like and I like, like what I was like waiting for.

520
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: Here's another old reference I was waiting for. You're the

521
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: only person she's saying is too, and you're the only

522
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: guy there. It sounds like I don't know this yet, right,

523
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: I just know that this woman is like that is

524
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 1: like giving me this wacky information. And I'm like I

525
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 1: went from being like skeptical to like, oh, this lady's crazy, right,

526
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: Like she's like she's she's delusional. Right, So I was

527
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: like okay, right, and then she proceeded to go you know,

528
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: that was like I call that strike one. Strike two

529
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: comes up when she starts talking about things that are

530
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 1: generically specific. When I say generically specific, for about three seconds,

531
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, like yes, and then

532
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: I was like wait, wait wait whoa boa boa boa?

533
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: I can apply that to like three other guys that

534
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm in high school with right now. So now I'm

535
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: like strike two. Right, So I'm going down my analytical

536
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: logical right. Remember I'm the kid in the Delhi how

537
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:32,719
Speaker 1: do you do this? Why did you do that? Right?

538
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: I'm looking for all of those things now, I'm looking

539
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: for looking this with her. Then at the end she

540
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 1: gives me information. And at the time, I had been

541
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: seeing somebody that was dating some dating somebody else and

542
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: she my mom did not nobody knew right, And if

543
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: my mom had known some of the circumstances, I don't

544
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: think she would have been happy. So all I'm thinking

545
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: about is now she's legitimately nailing this circumstance. And as

546
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: she's nailing the circumstance, I'm thinking, oh my god, this

547
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: woman was my mother, Like, what if she tells her?

548
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: So I go to the place of I lied. I went,

549
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is. And she's one like that.

550
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: I will never forget it. She like raised her eyebrow

551
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: and she looked at me and she went, Okay, we'll

552
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: let me give you the outcome of what you don't know.

553
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: And she proceeded to give me the outcome about this girl.

554
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: And she said, she's not going to wind up with

555
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: the guy she's dating, who by the way, she gave

556
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 1: me his name. She's not going to wind up with you.

557
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: She's going to wind up with the gentleman that she

558
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: works with, who works with food. And in my mind,

559
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, she doesn't work with anybody's food. I was like,

560
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: you know, she's completely wrong. Yeah, well, I did not

561
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: know that she had a job on the weekends as

562
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: a waitress, and she dated the chef for five years

563
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: after that, and that all got revealed within two weeks

564
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: of the reading. So when I tell you that, all

565
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 1: of this like like blew my mind. It made me

566
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: extremely uncomfortable. And I say to everybody, I didn't go,

567
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's amazing. I say, no, I felt

568
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: like I was violated. I felt like somebody like broke

569
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: into my house and went through my stuff, and I

570
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: didn't like it. I did not like the feeling. My

571
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: journey of development wasn't like, oh, I'm so psychic, because

572
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: she told me my journey was like, okay, so clearly

573
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: this woman has something. I don't know how she knew.

574
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: Maybe she's a mind reader, but how would she know

575
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: the future that I I can't explain. But I don't

576
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,479
Speaker 1: like this feeling, so I want to learn more about it.

577
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: So nobody else could ever do that for me. I'm

578
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: a control freak. I was like, I don't want that. Well,

579
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: the box was opened and you couldn't shut it once

580
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,239
Speaker 1: that happened, So even though you hated everything. It just

581
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: it woke you up, and it seems like you had

582
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: to explore it. It felt like she broke into my house, right,

583
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: my my energy house, and I didn't like it. I

584
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: wanted to put it the I want to find like

585
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: how do I put Can I put an alarm system

586
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,239
Speaker 1: on my energy? Like like what is this? So when

587
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: I started to learn about the subject matter in you

588
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: could there was no new wage section in bookstores, right, really,

589
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: there was no you know, everything was under the ac cult.

590
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: So I was embarrassed to check books out. So I

591
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: would sit on the floor of the Glencove Public Library

592
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: after high school and every day for hours read the

593
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: books that were written about Parwa, psychology, the occult, metaphysics.

594
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: And that's where my journey really truly began with knowledge. Right, yeah,

595
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: I started going but this isn't psychic, like this is

596
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: common sense. Like we all have these like flashes and

597
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: ideas and thoughts, right, like, yeah, I've seen my dead

598
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: grandfather as a kid, like that's normal. Like nobody even

599
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: made a big deal about me seeing him. That was like, oh,

600
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: that's your grandfather. Like I grew up in that realm

601
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: of it being normal. And natural. So for me to

602
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: be psychic was something way bigger than what I had

603
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: thought it would be. Right. Yeah, we all have these

604
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: things that we second guess if they're signs, if you

605
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: know everything, we all have it. Someone dies and then

606
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: every single time I'm on a beach, I always find

607
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: this one type of shell when I'm thinking about this person,

608
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: like always, and it's really creepy and weird, and you

609
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: sometimes wonder if it's if it's coincidence or if it's

610
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: in your mind. But everybody has had these different experiences

611
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: in different ways, and I guess if you're really focused

612
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: on it, I guess you can find patterns, etcetera. But

613
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: you turned this into um, this is your passion and

614
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: your gift, um and who you are. But this you

615
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: turned this into something successful. So how is that trajectory?

616
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: You're sitting on the floor in a library and you

617
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: become one of the most sex successful, um you know,

618
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: respected people in this business, a legitimate person that people

619
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: respect and honor in this business because it is a business.

620
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: So how is that trajectory? You're sitting on the floor.

621
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: Now what happens? Who do you become? So I literally

622
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: go from the I like read every book that you

623
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: possibly get your hands on. And I then go to

624
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: Wheatly Plaza like road in Greenville. Right right there was

625
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: a was a Walden bookstore there right next to like

626
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: where path Mark was, and I walked in the middle

627
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: of the afternoon. I walked into the store and all

628
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: the way in the back they had one shelf. And

629
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: I want you to understand that the shelves in the

630
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,719
Speaker 1: bookstore were curved like of the old pan and building, right,

631
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: so I had that kind of a look. And they

632
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: had like very sparse books on the subject matter. But

633
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: they had a deck of Tarot cards. It was called

634
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: Tarot Classic that we're leaning up against it, and I'm

635
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: about three ft away from the shelf, so I'm not

636
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: anywhere near it. One of the persons in the store

637
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: is the manager of the store, and she was in

638
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 1: the middle of the store on the floor restocking some stuff.

639
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: And as I'm standing there like looking at like, you know,

640
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: I want to buy this, I want to learn about this,

641
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: the deck of Tarot cards fall off the shelf in

642
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: front of me. Now I know for people listening to this,

643
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: that sounds like crazy. And if I did not witness it,

644
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: I would also think that this didn't happen, but I'm

645
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: just letting you know it fell off. And the lady

646
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: in the store looked at me and she went, clearly,

647
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: you're supposed to buy those, and I went, you think right?

648
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: So I bought them. So I bought the Dead, I

649
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: bought that book. I go home. Now simultaneously my grandmother's house.

650
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: Her sister, my great aunt, Louise, comes from Staten Island

651
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: to come spend seven weeks with my grandmother, and she goes,

652
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: she could never got my name right, so she'd go

653
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: Johnson and I go, yeah, she goes, I brought you

654
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: a gift. I was like, you didn't have to do that,

655
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: and she's like, it's not a big deal, and she

656
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: hands me a little supermarket book that says how to

657
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: predict the future with playing cards. And I'm like, what, like,

658
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: why would why why would my grandmother's sister, who I

659
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: don't really know, right, why would she bring me that?

660
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: Like it was a weird in front of Okay, so

661
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: now I know you could read with playing cards, and

662
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: now I know you could read with these tarot cards. Right,

663
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: So I've studied the book, I look at the stuff

664
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: and that coming week, I said to my cousin Florence,

665
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: because Grandmo's house was over there. Um, I said, can

666
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: I can I do something for you? So I read

667
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: for my cousin Florence. And when I say I read

668
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: for her, let me just be really clear. I have

669
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: a book in my hand and I'm like, I put

670
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: a card down. I'm like, and then I tell what

671
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: it means, and then I added to it, like and

672
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,239
Speaker 1: that's what I did. Two weeks later, she goes, You're

673
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: gonna be Grandma's Grandma's house on Sunday, and I went, yeah.

674
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: She's like, okay, I go, I lived there, so of

675
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: course I'm gonna be. She's like, yeah, I want you to.

676
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: I want you to do my cards again. I'm like no,

677
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: and she said why not. I went, I don't even

678
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing. She's like, well, dude, everything you

679
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: told me happened in the last two weeks. And I

680
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: remember saying, I go, Florence, I don't even know what

681
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I feel like I'm like making up a story.

682
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: She goes to make up a story again, because the

683
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: one you made up last time it all happened. She

684
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: goes and honestly you shouldn't have known the stuff that

685
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: you knew. And then I did it again, and then

686
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: she told her friends, and then they told two friends,

687
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: and it was like that a gree shampoo commercial, right,

688
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: and so on and so on, and it literally became

689
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: something that I was just doing because I could so

690
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: my first love right, So in front of me all

691
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: the time, here's my little um Bocardi Gold reserve bag.

692
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: I don't drink, but or my cards, and I always

693
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: have them with me, like it's just like my my

694
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: first thing that I resonated with. You travel on a

695
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: play with them, no matter where you go, there with you.

696
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: They are the first card you got. Those are the

697
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: ones that felt the No, I actually don't like. I

698
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: don't like those cards. I resonated more with this deck.

699
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: So my second deck was worth these um it's called

700
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: the right of weight um and they have like images

701
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: and pictures on them and and and Tarot is really

702
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: just about the arch type of the human spirit experience

703
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: and the journey. So I think I resonated with what

704
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: the journey that we are here to learn, Like I

705
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: got very early on that this is a journey. And

706
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: I also like to just address the word gift. I

707
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: never felt like I had a gift. And I actually

708
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: don't like the word gift being associated with the subject matter,

709
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: because so many times when you hear somebody who does this,

710
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: they'll say, my gift is I have a gift and

711
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: the gift that I And whenever I hear that in

712
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: this work, I always think I'm more special than you. Right,

713
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: I'm better than you. I'm gifted. And I want to

714
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: everybody listening to know that everybody's intuitive and everybody has

715
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: psychic ability, and everybody could recognize when their loved ones

716
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: and friends around them, and nobody needs a reading. That's

717
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: the God's honest truth. And my grandmother used to get

718
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: so upset with me. She'd be like, why are you

719
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: telling people that you're gonna have no business? And I'd

720
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: be like, it's not about business. It is about teaching.

721
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: It is about raising awareness and letting people recognize that

722
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: if they just pay attention to the universe, if they

723
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 1: could be objective about the universe and take a few

724
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: steps back, life really is like a soap opera, and

725
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: it really does give you foreshadowing of where we're going.

726
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: And if you kind of just look down that line

727
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: of probability, you can kind of see alter change or grow.

728
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: I'm not really good with this, so it takes a

729
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 1: lot for somebody to be able to do that over

730
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: years of meditation. That's what I do for I do

731
00:35:43,920 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: it for clients because I'm looking at their line of probability. Um.

732
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: People who listen are trying to create their own success

733
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: and certainly have had a lot of these experiences that

734
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: apply to what you're talking about, but doubt themselves. Second

735
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: guests themselves aren't sure which way to turn. Do I

736
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: turn this? I always say, when you jump, you fly,

737
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: you know how to listen to gut gut into That's

738
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: so crazy. I said the exact same thing, really like verbatim.

739
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: So my trajectory went from like I never I never

740
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: not had I didn't. Okay, well you just freaked me

741
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: out there a little bit. Um because my backgrounds and healthcare,

742
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: so I went and got a degree. My I was

743
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: working on a master's in public health and healthcare administration.

744
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: And while working on my master's in that field, I

745
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: wound up working at a hospital doing phlebotomy. I wanted

746
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: to get my foot in the door. So here I

747
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: am taking like credits out of college. I'm working in

748
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: a hospital doing phlebotomy. Always phlebotomy is working at a laboratory,

749
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: and it would be the vena punctuous, the person that

750
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: comes in and draws your blood. Right, so I was

751
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: I was. I was the guy that came and stuck

752
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: needles in your and did that. So I did that

753
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: clinically that I moved into an area coped materials management,

754
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: and then I moved into the the like information systems

755
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: for the hospital because I wanted to get into administration.

756
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: And then my world's kind of collided. Right, So my

757
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: world's of the psychic world, which I never stopped doing

758
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: from fifteen right all the way as I'm working into

759
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: the you know, it's like ten years later, sow working

760
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: at a hospital, getting my degree, doing this whole thing. Um,

761
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: and my world's always kept separate. Somebody that I did

762
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: a private reading for recognized me in the hospital, and

763
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: it's spread that I actually worked at this hospital. Then

764
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: people who couldn't get appointments with me because I was

765
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: booked six to six months eight months a year in

766
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: advance for private readings and doing group stuff while still

767
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 1: having my regular job and doing everything. Um, people started

768
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: calling the hospital asking if they could get to me

769
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: on my lunch hour. So there was a um. There

770
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: was a moment where my two worlds really really collided

771
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: because I was due for a huge bonus raise in promotion.

772
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: My wife had said to me, you know, why are

773
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: you killing yourself working so hard? Like just do your

774
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: psychic work like this clearly your demand that. I was

775
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: like absolutely not, Like I want a real job before

776
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: one k like that's how I was raised, Like that's

777
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: my that was that was my mindset. Um. And she's like, yeah,

778
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: I think you're kind of like just killing yourself on

779
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: a reason. She's like, clearly people want to see you.

780
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: So she's like I was like, yeah, yeah, that's my passion.

781
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: And the moment I started, the moment I started like

782
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: doing that for a job. Now it's like now I

783
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: now I have to do it. Like so I like

784
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: the luxury of like sitting with somebody going like I

785
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: don't like the energy. I want to read them, you know,

786
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: Like that was my it was kind of my vibe. Well,

787
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: fast forward, the vice president of my department comes in.

788
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: He goes, can I can I talk to you? I

789
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 1: was like absolutely, so here Mr psychic. I'm like, here

790
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: it comes the bonus, the raise, the whole nine yards.

791
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: And it's like three thirty in the afternoon, and this guy,

792
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: Marty looks at me and he goes, so, what's this

793
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: talking to the dead thing? And I literally felt like

794
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: everything inside me like drain out because my whole my

795
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: two worlds collided. And I went, um, that's also belittling

796
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: to the way he said it. Yeah. I didn't even

797
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: catch the belittling part because I just was like, I

798
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: felt like, oh my god, I was exposed the naked.

799
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: So I was like, Um, I'm in the middle of

800
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: a project. Can I come back in five thirty and

801
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: can we talk about it then? And he went sure,

802
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: I leave, I go to my office and I just

803
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: went like this. I went, I don't care who you

804
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: have to get, but get somebody in his family to

805
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: show up five thirty, right. So I go back into

806
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: five thirty and I go, Marty, I could do two things.

807
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 1: I could either explain to you what you're asking me um,

808
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: or I can demonstrate. And I remember whom going, oh,

809
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: please demonstrate. So he did, and then about twenty five

810
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 1: minutes in we were kind of sitting side by side.

811
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: He was like looking straight ahead and I looked at

812
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: him and I was like, so that's pretty much what

813
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: they're looking for. And I go and I'm so sorry

814
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: that they found me here, and I you know, I

815
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: have a long waiting list and blah blah blah blah blah.

816
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: And he goes to me, you're you're gonna have to

817
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: leave now, and there was like this pregnant pause, and

818
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: I was like, leave, like you need some space, like

819
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 1: pack up my desk, don't come in tomorrow. And he goes,

820
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,959
Speaker 1: no nose, he just eradicated forty five years of belief

821
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: system in twenty minutes with information there's no possibly way

822
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: you could know you're in a sign. And then you're

823
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 1: talking about the metaphysical. He's like, I need to wrap

824
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: my brain around this. So the next the next morning,

825
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: I show up like an hour beforehand there because I'm

826
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,959
Speaker 1: like paranoid when it was my job, and he comes

827
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: in early and I remember he stops by my my

828
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: office and he looks at me and he goes, why

829
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: are you here? And I looked at him. I was like,

830
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: because it's my job, I go, this is my path,

831
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: this is what we going to school for. And he

832
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: smiled at me and he goes, but why are you here?

833
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: And like that night, my wife said to me, I

834
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: really really think you need to like leave. So I said, listen,

835
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: if I don't get what they promised me, which was

836
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: an increase in my dilary by the way, if I

837
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: don't get that which was promised, I said, I'll take

838
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: that as a sign from the universe that I'm not

839
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: supposed to be there, and I'll leave. I got pulled

840
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: into the office within a few weeks after that, and

841
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 1: they gave me the big speech of how they fought

842
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 1: for me, and everybody else was getting a one percent increase,

843
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: but I did such a stella job because my boss

844
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: was on maternity to leave. I was going to get

845
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: three don't even remember hearing a thing after that, because

846
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: in that moment, I just went, oh my god, I'm

847
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: being called The universe is calling me out on what

848
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: I said. And I knew in that moment that I

849
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: was going to leave and I was going to do

850
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: this work full time. And I said to everybody, I

851
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: was beyond scared. I felt like I was standing on

852
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 1: a cliff at night and somebody said jump, and when

853
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: I jumped, I wasn't sure if I was going to fall,

854
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: and instead I soared. That's amazing. I do say that

855
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,479
Speaker 1: about people because people are really stuck in jobs and

856
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: whether it had to leave and they have a four

857
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: oh one k and they don't know how to leave

858
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: corporate America and start, you know, artists in coffee shop

859
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, and you got it. Just at

860
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: some point you're going to have to decide you can't

861
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: ride two horses at the same time time. I mean,

862
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: it's not that easy to be great at multiple things

863
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: at the same time. But I also think it's really

864
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: important for people that are listening to this that they

865
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: have to make sure that their ego self is in

866
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: balance and in check when they make that jump. I

867
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 1: wouldn't want anybody listening to this who can't back up

868
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: what it is that they think they want to do,

869
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: do it and then go I listened to Bethany and

870
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: John Edward and I jumped and I fall and crashed

871
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: and burn, and it's their fault, right, So what's important

872
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: is to make sure that you legitimately have something you

873
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: can jump to and you can back up whatever that is.

874
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: Because I've had too many people that will read the books,

875
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: the life coaching books still take. You know, they'll walk

876
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: across their fire, they'll do this, they'll do that, and

877
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: then the moment that they try to put something into effect,

878
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: they fall flat on their face because they really can't

879
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: legitimately back up what it is. Well, because well, I

880
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: I've never had someone because I always say, you need

881
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: to know if you're really an entrepreneur, because the real

882
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: the true entrepreneurs that I know, say they work twenty

883
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: four hours a day, doesn't mean they're sitting in front

884
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: of a a day. It means their minds are going,

885
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: they're solving problems, they're playing chess, not checkers. They're not

886
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: thinking about lunch and not thinking about the vacation. And

887
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: I don't work for human resources, so you know, and

888
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: so it's just what you are. And it doesn't mean

889
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: that I make my staff work twenty four hours a day.

890
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: They have a balanced life. Now, we've got everybody covering

891
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: everybody else, but the people who want to go all

892
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: the way work that way. And that's just the way

893
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: it is. So you've got to just know if that's

894
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 1: who you are, and that will help you determine whether

895
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: you want to go take that road and if you

896
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: put passion into your profession, it yields profit. And profit

897
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: doesn't just mean money. Profit is in accomplishment. Profit is

898
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: in how you feel about yourself and a life balance

899
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: of you know, are you living your actual path right?

900
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: Like your your goal? So could I have stayed in

901
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: a hospital environment. Yes? Did I like it the administrative part.

902
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: I absolutely hated the clinical side. I actually liked like

903
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: I enjoyed working the nical side. So if I wasn't

904
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: doing something along these lines, I probably would want to

905
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: be a frontline worker. I probably would want to be

906
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: in surgery. I'd want to be doing something in that

907
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: type of I get it. I get I literally said

908
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: to Paul, like I'm negotiating another I Heart show. But

909
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: for the first year that I didn't there was some

910
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: loophole and I didn't get paid to do the podcast

911
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: for the first year, which wasn't with I Heart. I

912
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: didn't care. I literally I talked to people every day

913
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: that I had nothing I knew nothing about, and I

914
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: sit here and I devoured these conversations. I am so

915
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: passionate about it that I would do it for free.

916
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: I don't care if I heard here is that because

917
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it for free because that's

918
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: this market value. And I do a lot of philanthropy,

919
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: but I love it so much and I want to

920
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: be able to not do many other things because of that.

921
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: So yes, this is I'm working right now in sweatpants

922
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: that I slept in. But I did you know shower um?

923
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: And you know, I just love it. So okay, So

924
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: I want to hear about um. Does this crowd your mind?

925
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: How do you have a separation of this work and life?

926
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: Like some people can't watch a movie if they're a

927
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: director because they're thinking about that shot and the way

928
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: this is and the way that is, or if everyone's

929
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 1: pulling at you to ask you questions. I mean, don't

930
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: you need a sense of peace? And like I think

931
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: when my mind is really crowded and busy, I can't

932
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: have good creative thoughts. They don't come to me. So

933
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 1: I would imagine in your work, if you're worried about

934
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: the house and we've got to do this and we're moving,

935
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: and you my wife's upset about this and this happened,

936
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: Like it's not that easy for you to work in

937
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: this way. It seems like you need freedom in your

938
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: mind and body. So energy is really now what we're

939
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: talking about, right, So everything in my world is framed

940
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: under the umbrella of energy and how that works. So

941
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: I left the deli and every every when I'm thirteen

942
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: to fifteen years old, right, that's the deli world. And

943
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: every day Mr m would come in and he would

944
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: see me there and he'd go, can can I poach you?

945
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 1: Would you come like work for me at the video store?

946
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: And I would say, no, I'm good. But every day

947
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: I had his you know, his bologna on on his

948
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: roll with butter ready for him, and every day he

949
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: would ask me that. And then the one day when

950
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: the Delhi got sold, I waited for MRM to come

951
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: in and I gave mis sandwich and he said to me,

952
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: thank you, and I went, don't you want to ask

953
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: me anything else? And he goes to me nope, And

954
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: I went, are you sure? And he went sure, you

955
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: want to come work for me? And I went yes,

956
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: and he went really, and I went yes. So I

957
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: went working to the video store. So I went from

958
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: the Delhi in the same parking lot to the video store.

959
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: Seven years in one parking lot I worked out. So

960
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: now I'm managing the video store. And one of the

961
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: things that happened during this period of time is I

962
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: used to attack read people that would walk up to

963
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: the county. But wait, doesn't that mean it's so before

964
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: you get to the video store. Doesn't that mean you

965
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: wanted one door to close for you open the next.

966
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: You want to focus all your energy on this one

967
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: thing and do it well versus doing both. Is that

968
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: why I always felt like it was important for me

969
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 1: to help my mom and make sure that I always

970
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: took care of myself financially from the age of thirteen.

971
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,479
Speaker 1: So from thirteen to fifteen, I worked at the deli

972
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: making sure I was paying for my stuff. So, which

973
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: is very literal, you just stopped one job and start another, Okay,

974
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: I always worked like I always work work. So from fifteen,

975
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, for for a few years after that, I

976
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: was managing the video store. But that's where my development

977
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: really kicked in. So now I'm meditating, I'm learning about

978
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: how to work with energy. I'm learning a little bit

979
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: about astrology. I'm working with tarot numerology, and I'm seeing clients,

980
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: I'm reading clients. I'm working at a psychic fair. Right

981
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: because I had gone to see three other psychics. Three

982
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: other psychics picked up on my abilities. One of those

983
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: psychics invites me to a psychic fair. The lady it's

984
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: a psychic fair. I read for it. She puts me

985
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: to work that day. I'm now seeing clients. Right, So

986
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: this is the trajectory. I go from reading my cousins

987
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: and their friends to reading every Sunday at a psychic

988
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: fair in the tri State Earth. So you're busy, But

989
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: when this instrument is working, it's even working more. That's

990
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: what I'm asking. If you go away for four weeks,

991
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: is it like a little different and you're not as

992
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: alive with it? And when you're at at this period

993
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: of time, I'm constantly on and I'm constantly reading. And

994
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: now people are coming in the video store and they're

995
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: walking up and I'm attacked reading them at the counter.

996
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: The owner of the store is telling me, don't do that.

997
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 1: You're freaking people out with the wegi thing that you're doing. Right,

998
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: And then I, you know, started to get like, I

999
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: started to get physically sick. And the woman that did

1000
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: my first reading said to me, well are you powering

1001
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: yourself down? And I went, what does that mean? She's like,

1002
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: what do you mean, what does that mean? She goes,

1003
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: you need to recharge yourself, you need to pay herself down.

1004
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: And then somebody else that I studied with, right, I

1005
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: was taking classes with someone and she said, would you

1006
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: ever watch your neighbor shower? And I'm like, what kind

1007
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: of a question is that? She goes, would you ever

1008
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: from the outside of her house watch your neighbor shower?

1009
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, she goes, but could you? And

1010
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: I said, well, her bath was on the first floor,

1011
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: so physically, yeah, she goes, would you? And I was like,

1012
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: of course not, that's creepy. Why why you ask me

1013
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: that she goes? Just because you could doesn't mean you should,

1014
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: and remember, never do it psychically. And once she framed

1015
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: it like that, for me, I recognized that anybody who

1016
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: has this ability has the ability to look at anybody

1017
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 1: on the street and enter their vibration without their permission

1018
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: and read and no stuff about them. And in that moment,

1019
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 1: I recognize that it's never appropriate to enter someone's vibration

1020
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: without their expressed permission. So it's not okay to ambush

1021
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: reading someone, it's not okay to attack read someone. If

1022
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: somebody did not ask me. Right, then it's not my

1023
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: place to be going into their pockets, going into their

1024
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: life pockets, going into their home, opening their drawers. Right.

1025
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: That whole violated feeling that I had when I gave

1026
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: that woman Lydia permission to read me. People can do that.

1027
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: Anybody can do that if they do this work, and

1028
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: it's not okay. Right, So in that moment, I recognize, oh,

1029
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: now I have boundaries. I have boundaries and boundaries. But

1030
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: I also heard from people at home like you need

1031
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: to like she said, powered down. You can't just be

1032
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: running a hundred miles an hour. Gordon, get go. Money

1033
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: never sleeps was not correct. I have my greatest ideas

1034
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: when I'm in the Hamptons, I'm meditating, I'm looking at

1035
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: the water, I take a walk on the beach. They

1036
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: all come. I solve problems versus like crowded, Let's do

1037
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: it all, let's figure it all out, let's work on everything,

1038
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: let's be great. You know that's not when the ideas come.

1039
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: The best ideas to solve problems are between sleep and wake.

1040
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 1: For me, I want to name something. I think of something.

1041
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: It's when I'm just waking up and like it comes

1042
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: to me because you've allowed your body to rest, so

1043
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: can't it has to be the same with you because

1044
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: you're expending so much of your personal energy on these people.

1045
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: So the reality is, I'm always psychic. I can always

1046
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: focus it, I can always turn it on, but I'm

1047
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: most of the time keep it off. So unless I'm

1048
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: going to be reading for someone, I'm I'm not expelling

1049
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: the psychic energy in my everyday life. I am still

1050
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: psychic in my knowledge. I still know everything that I know,

1051
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: but I'm not actively. So if I was a singer,

1052
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: I'm not singing the instrument is you're not using the

1053
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 1: instrument all the time. I'm not using the instrument correct

1054
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: But you personally also, there's something comes out of you

1055
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: to do this, So it's probably giving yourself a little

1056
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 1: bit of a healing process too for your just life

1057
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: and your personal as you can see, like if you

1058
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: see the environment behind me, I need this, I get it.

1059
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: I need I need this, I need I need order.

1060
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: So for anybody that wants to know, like, how could

1061
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: you empower your life get rid of the clutter. You

1062
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: have to get rid of the clutter. You have to

1063
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: have organization, you have to make sure that you have

1064
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 1: some type of protocol and order in what you're doing.

1065
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: Crisis run management is not success. So it's really important

1066
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: to make sure that you have some type of order

1067
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: to your thoughts. Um even if it means you're gonna

1068
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: go today, just today and go organize your closing your

1069
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: bathroom in your bedroom, you know, full things, get rid

1070
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: of stuff. It's really important to make sure that you

1071
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: have some type of energetic order as well. We're the

1072
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: same person. I have to set myself up for emotional success.

1073
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: I have to have my environment be peaceful. I'm an

1074
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: utterly organized person. But the same way as you, I

1075
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: need to feel my happy place. I need to go

1076
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: walk on the beach. I need to set myself up

1077
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: for emotional and physical success. So that's very good advice

1078
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: and true. And I think people don't focus as much

1079
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,240
Speaker 1: on that. People focus on being awake, not being asleep,

1080
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: being up and on it and not relaxing. And I

1081
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: think that's huge. Um. So when someone says, uh tea

1082
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: leaves tarot card psychic medium, are they all like they

1083
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: all the same and can you do all of them?

1084
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 1: Do these people that have this gift do they play

1085
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: in all of these spaces or is it a specialization

1086
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 1: in each in each area, I think there's a specialization.

1087
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: So you know, to be psychic means that you're using

1088
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: your intuitive abilities, and that might kind of get that

1089
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: and what are the abilities? The abilities are being able

1090
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: to see energy, feel energy here, energy sense energy, smell, energy,

1091
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: taste energy, right, downloads generically speaking right, That's how information

1092
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: will come come across and and a psychic will use

1093
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: that to talk about where you're at your life, hopefully

1094
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: validate some things in the past, to validate that they

1095
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: actually can do this, and then give you a projection.

1096
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: I personally don't like the word prediction because prediction makes

1097
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: it seem like you can't change it, and the control

1098
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: freaking me doesn't like that. I want to know that

1099
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: I have control of from my future, so I know

1100
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: that there are certain destiny faded moments that will happen

1101
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: um and we learn our lessons through those. However, I

1102
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: think how we get from point you know, a tow

1103
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: b is free will, and if you don't like something,

1104
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: we can probably altership to change that. The medium part

1105
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: of my ability I have to be psychic first, and

1106
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: the medium part is now where somebody who's coming through

1107
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: from the spirit world is going to give me information

1108
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: about my client, and it feels very, very different. So

1109
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: if I'm doing a reading, that's a specific skill set,

1110
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: that's a different and not every psychic. And I want

1111
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: everybody to know this, Not every psychic is a medium.

1112
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: And in two thousand, when I did crossing Over and

1113
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: the word mediumship like became blown up, everybody in their

1114
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: brother from a business standpoint, wanted to capitalize on that

1115
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: started calling themselves mediums. They're not not every psychic as

1116
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: a medium. Um. Like I have spent let's see, thirty

1117
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 1: six years in this field and thirty six years studying astrology.

1118
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: You will not hear me call myself an astrologer. I

1119
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: will not read your astrological chart. I can talk about it,

1120
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: I can have a conversation about it. But I respect

1121
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: the fact that somebody has dedicated their life to astrology

1122
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: and I'm going to refer that person to an astrologer

1123
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: because that's what their field of expertise is. It's like

1124
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: your general doctors saying no, no, no, you don't need

1125
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: the cardiologist. Like I understand how the hard works, I'm

1126
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: going to take care. No, you go to the cardiologist

1127
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: when you have that issue. So I look at my

1128
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: world in energy and as healthcare because my background comes

1129
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: from healthcare. So for me, all of those things that

1130
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: you talked about, taro, astrology, neurology, um tea, leaves, palm reading, psychometry,

1131
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: all of that and like a like a scalpel in

1132
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: the hands of a surgeon, I got I get it.

1133
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: You know. The thing is that I think good takeaway energy.

1134
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 1: It's something we all feel it. You go out one

1135
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: night and either it's the room that there's just bad energy.

1136
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: You can feel the energy. It's not something something's wearing.

1137
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: It could be I have a bar in my outside

1138
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: my house for some reason. You could go from my

1139
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,959
Speaker 1: house into this outdoor bar. Every time someone walks in there,

1140
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: they go crazy and dance and have the best time.

1141
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: I want to stay there till four o'clock, and the

1142
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: want to. There's an energy in that space. It's just

1143
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: a fact their energy. It's programmed there. You program you

1144
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: pro it's programmed like that, and that energy gets reinforced. Right.

1145
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: So you know, you hear a lot about these paranormal

1146
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: haunting things and places that are haunted and it's got

1147
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: bad energy and then people go there and then they

1148
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 1: compound that bad energy and it becomes a thought form. Right,

1149
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: So thoughts create reality. So whether a thought is being

1150
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: created as a reality that that house is haunted and

1151
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: when you go there, you now have a cognitive bias

1152
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: that you're gonna see here and feel something woo woo. Right,

1153
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: because I've gone to those places and I'm like, yeah,

1154
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: I don't like, I don't feel anything. I don't feel

1155
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: anything to me. I feel like, you know, I went

1156
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: to Stonehenge and I was like, They're like, what do

1157
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: you feel? I'm like, damn, I feel damp, Like I

1158
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: didn't feel anything mystical or or or cool. But then

1159
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: I could be like in a in a in a

1160
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: venue in in Scotland where I'm going to do an

1161
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,360
Speaker 1: event and go oh, this has got a really bad vibe,

1162
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: or like it doesn't it doesn't feel good and find

1163
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: out that there was a there was a fight in

1164
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: the bar the night before I was there, So I

1165
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: could sense the energy of that place. Right, it could

1166
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: be flowing and moving and changing. Our thoughts manifest our reality. Right,

1167
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: you program your future. So if you don't like something,

1168
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: fire the program director of your life and then decide

1169
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: what it is that you want to attract. Right, So,

1170
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: if you have a radio station and you want to

1171
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: attract a young, hip, urban audience, are you going to

1172
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 1: be playing Conway Twitty and you know, old country western music?

1173
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: Absolutely not what you broadcast you're going to attract. So

1174
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: if you want to attract a specific audience, you have

1175
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: to broadcast the thoughts and the and the energy that's

1176
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: going to pull that in. But even on a more

1177
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: micro if you're in an office and there's one person

1178
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: that just doesn't have that good energy, and it can

1179
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: pull the whole team down, and maybe that person is

1180
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: not in the right spot or doesn't shouldn't belong here.

1181
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: But I do say to people, don't spend a lot

1182
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: of time around people that have negative energy. I feel

1183
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: like a parasite. It sucks it out of you. I

1184
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: feel like they pull off of you. I'm very scared

1185
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: of that stuff. Like I've heard people say people are

1186
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: jealous of you, or people who you know don't want

1187
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: your best interests. You can sort of feel it and

1188
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: know it, and I just don't want to be around that.

1189
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: Like I don't care people think about me not wanting

1190
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 1: to be around that here's an aspect Bethany for your listeners.

1191
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: When you do this work, psychic self defense is imperative.

1192
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: Most people hear the psychics don't spend enough time protecting

1193
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: their energy, right, So we hear about safe sex all

1194
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: the time. Well, safe psychic is also something you want

1195
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: to protect your energy. So in order for me to

1196
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: do a reading for somebody and meditate, I will smudge

1197
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: and sage my area, right, and then I will visualize

1198
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: myself protected. So how do you do that? Well, you

1199
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: could imagine yourself standing in a column of white light.

1200
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: You can imagine yourself standing in a column like when

1201
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: people got beamed up on Star Trek. You could use

1202
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: whatever sci fi movie you want where you're standing in light,

1203
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: but you ask for a protection and you kind of

1204
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: dome yourself so that those people can't parasitically affect you,

1205
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: and then you just choose not to allow that to

1206
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: affect you. It's putting gloves on, like I don't I

1207
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: don't want to touch the dog poop, So I'm gonna

1208
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: put gloves on. I'm gonna pick up the poop, I'm

1209
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: gonna move it, take my gloves off, and now I'm done. Okay,

1210
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: so now I want to talk a little bit about

1211
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: you have a different type of perfect maybe not. Actors

1212
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: have failed movies and other people have failed albums, and

1213
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: you know, people in offices screw up, but but nobody

1214
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: has a percent rate and you are in a highly

1215
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: criticized profession. Everybody's just a detective and always trying. You're

1216
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,439
Speaker 1: starting from a place of everybody wanting to say you're

1217
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 1: a scam. You're you're not. You know. That's so that's

1218
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: a hard place to be starting. You know, Um, people

1219
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: don't lawyers a little bit. People walk in and think

1220
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: they're scammers, but like people don't think that about most

1221
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: doctors or most you know whoever, So my question is, um,

1222
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: do you do you get caught up ever in the

1223
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: wanting to prove it, like being embarrassed about if you

1224
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: miss your hits? Your miss is your highs, your lows,

1225
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: your batting average, Like do you I'm sure you used

1226
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: to more than now, but like how does that work

1227
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: in your life? And and um, it's you're supposed to

1228
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: miss sometimes because you're a human being and because nobody

1229
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: you know, Babe Ruth didn't hit a home run every

1230
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: single time, So how does that whole thing work mathematically, emotionally,

1231
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: that whole section I'm talking about. So as a kid,

1232
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: when I was doing this work, I would literally be

1233
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: like wrapped around your leg as you were leaving my office,

1234
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: going like they were here, you know, like that type

1235
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 1: of thing, like needing them to know. Over a period

1236
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: of time, what I kind of really embraced was a message,

1237
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: probably the greatest gift I was given in this field. Well,

1238
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: someone said to me, just remember you don't always have

1239
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: to be right, but you have to strive to be accurate. Now,

1240
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: what that means in this field is that you're not

1241
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: going to come from a place of ego needing to

1242
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: be right. You're going to strive to get as much

1243
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: information I as clearly across as possible, which means that

1244
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: you're going to have enough ego to allow yourself to

1245
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: do it, but not so much that you have to

1246
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: be like always right. Well, the client always has to react.

1247
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes I have a sheet of paper that people have

1248
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: done with and I'm like, listen, I don't know what

1249
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: this is, but I needed to write this down in

1250
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: case I screwed it up. I want you to remember,

1251
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: you know what something you know might be and there

1252
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: is a process, right, So I went and got tested

1253
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: at the University of Arizona. Dr Gary Schwartz was doing something.

1254
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: HBO was doing a documentary called Life Afterlife America Undercover

1255
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: and it was a documentary that was green lit by

1256
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: HBO and they reached out to me and said would

1257
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: you be a part of this? And I was like,

1258
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: m m man, I don't really like TV. I prefer radio,

1259
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: but maybe And I said, well, we have a Harvard

1260
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: Heal trained scientist that wants to run experiments on the

1261
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: subject matter. That was intriguing for me because I'm like,

1262
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: wait a minute, that's like professional, like that is like

1263
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: somebody just someone wants us to stand up for what

1264
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: we do. So then another medium named Susiana Northrop called

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01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: me and said, are you going to do this? I

1266
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: got I got called called for this. She's like, I

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01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: kind of feel like we should do this, like they

1268
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: want to study us, Like shouldn't we do it? Yeah?

1269
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 1: Like I feel like we should do this. And another

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01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: medium called me and said, do not do this. It's

1271
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: a setup. They're gonna expose you or try to expose

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01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: mediums as frauds. And I'm like, I don't feel that right,

1273
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: So long story short, he chooses not to do it,

1274
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 1: but literally tells me that this is what the genesis

1275
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: of this is. He declines it three two or three times,

1276
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: and we go and do it. It was a really

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01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: positive experience. You can go look it up. Life Afterlife

1278
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: HBO American cover. Okay, so this was It was produced

1279
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: by Lucky Duck Entertainment and the journalist Linda Ellerby. Right,

1280
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: so she's like a journalist journalist, right, who does it? Okay,

1281
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: so fast forward. It was a very positive experience. There's

1282
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: a whole book written about the afterlife experiments and the

1283
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: how they ruled out mind reading, facial cues, reading body language,

1284
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: they set up all the double blind studies. Okay. So

1285
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: now it's years later and I'm at a celebrity's house

1286
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: who used to run up a poker game and I

1287
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: happened to, you know, frequently, go once a week, and

1288
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: Linda Ellerby happens to be there one night and she

1289
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: says to me, hey, do you know the back story

1290
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: of that that production? And I went, no, I go,

1291
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 1: but thank you for including me. I said, it was

1292
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: it was a great experience. I said, I felt like

1293
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: I contributed to raising awareness. She goes, yeah, she goes,

1294
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: we were actually hired to expose mediums as fraud and

1295
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: I like looked at her and I went what and

1296
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: she went, yeah, we were exposed to hire. We were

1297
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: we were hired to expose you guys as frauds. And

1298
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: I said, well, that wasn't the outcome of your documentary

1299
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: and she said no, it wasn't. I said, can I

1300
01:02:56,040 --> 01:03:00,439
Speaker 1: ask you, Linda, like, what changed? She goes you. She goes,

1301
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: you changed the trajectory of the documentary. She goes, I

1302
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: couldn't as a journalist with my team go back to

1303
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: HBO and do what they asked because we found different experiences.

1304
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: And I just literally sat there. I looked at my

1305
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 1: wife because she knew the backstory of the other medium,

1306
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: going don't do it, don't do it. And she looked

1307
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: at me and she was like, well, that is a

1308
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: compliment you should take to the grave, like that is

1309
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: a that is absolutely huge. So that wasn't him too.

1310
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: He called it, he did he feel it gat him too.

1311
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: He was he was a real medium. He was absolutely correct.

1312
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: So I was like, wow, that wasn't so that was

1313
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: pre crossing over. So I did that and then crossing

1314
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 1: over happened. That made you feel legitimate. That made you

1315
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: feel the most legitimate, because that was like something literally

1316
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: designed for you to crash and you don't even know

1317
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: it and you thrived. Yeah, it wasn't that I felt legitimate, Bethany.

1318
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 1: It was more like I felt like I stood up

1319
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: for the work. He stood up for the work. But

1320
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 1: that was courageous. Wow. So I want not just me,

1321
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: by the way, just me, the other mediums involved, like

1322
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: we all energetically, you know. I just had the opportunity

1323
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: to have that conversation with Linda, but I feel like

1324
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: it was like all of us that did that. That's amazing.

1325
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: That sounds like a turning point for the industry too,

1326
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: you know. Um, So, I won't keep you too much longer.

1327
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: This is fascinating, and I can keep you on for

1328
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: an hour. I would love to, but I don't want

1329
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 1: to do that to you. So this is um so

1330
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: effectively what you've been saying is that everybody has it

1331
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 1: in them. But will you ever walk by a carnival

1332
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: for fun? Do you have kids? You have kids? And

1333
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: if there's a woman with a crystal ball and cards,

1334
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: do you ever do it? Do you ever stop and

1335
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 1: just sitting seat. Never you don't. Okay, So what percentage

1336
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 1: of these people are scams? I would think a good

1337
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 1: percentage of people who are good percentage. I always tell

1338
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: people to be very very weary about like especially with

1339
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: social media right now, Like I spend so much time

1340
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: on Facebook, Instagram and in my comment section having to

1341
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: direct message people after they've direct messaged me back because

1342
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: they they're getting scammed or spammed spam scammed? How are

1343
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: they know? Where people are saying like, I've got a

1344
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: message for you, you know, contact me, and and people

1345
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 1: don't even realize that it's not me, like just because

1346
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: it's it's a comment on my page, they just go okay,

1347
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,439
Speaker 1: but they don't they don't realize that if they click

1348
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: on that there's no blue verified check mark, right And

1349
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: and I thought, well, all right, well maybe it's just

1350
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: like some people just or maybe they don't read. But

1351
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: then people that I knew were like, dude, why are

1352
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: you asking me for like, you know, for money on

1353
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: on Instagram? I'm like, what are you talking about? And

1354
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: then they'll send me the thing. I'm like, dude, that's

1355
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,919
Speaker 1: not even me, you know me, like you think that's

1356
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 1: me you know. So it's the equivalent of getting the email,

1357
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: Hey I'm in a different country and I lost my passport.

1358
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: Like it's like it's one of those Yeah, but I

1359
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: but what you are saying, which is interesting for this listener,

1360
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: is that if you feel that you have something or someone,

1361
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 1: you've seen the signs or someone's talked to you, and

1362
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: this has spoken to you, like anything else, it's a

1363
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: craft to work on. Go stop working on it and

1364
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: seeing if you're getting results. There's an ability that's Yeah,

1365
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: That's what I want people to do, is I want

1366
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: people to look at life through an energetic lens. I've

1367
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: got an eighteen year old son. I've got a fourteen

1368
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: year old daughter. Both of them have been raised in

1369
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: the realm of understanding the world of energy and metaphysics

1370
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 1: and to look at life and use the tools of

1371
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: astrology and numerology to understand who they are, um what

1372
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: their path is. You know, she's a successful actress. He's

1373
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: he'sn't going to be school to become a doctor. Neither

1374
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: one of them do what I do, but they understand

1375
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: it as a language. Yeah. I like to demystify the

1376
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: subject matter. I like to get rid of the whole,

1377
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 1: like I'm special and instricted, right, it is an energy

1378
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 1: if somebody worked, like here's the best best I feel

1379
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: body work when when they'll put their hands just over

1380
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: my body, they're not touching me, and I feel it.

1381
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: So that's energy from their body going into my body.

1382
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 1: Craniosa yea and yeah. And people have literally been healed.

1383
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: I mean there's studies. It's scientific that people have been

1384
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: healed by people's hands now even actually touching your skin.

1385
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: So there is obviously something's energy is strong. I like

1386
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: that just to say to people doesn't matter if you

1387
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: want to be quote unquote a professional medium, you just

1388
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: can have it in your life. Which I love that. Um,

1389
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: So a couple more questions and they'll let you go. Um,

1390
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 1: highs and lows, the high of your career and the

1391
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: low of your career. So this is a rose and

1392
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 1: a thorn, the high and the low through a great question. Um,

1393
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 1: the high of my career. I don't know if I

1394
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: can even answer that. I don't think. I don't know

1395
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 1: if I have an answer for that. I think I

1396
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 1: think the high of my career would be a theme,

1397
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 1: and it's a collective theme. Accumulation of watching the lights

1398
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: go on in people's eyes, to know that there's something else,

1399
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: and that when they lose a loved one and they

1400
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: think they're gone, that that grief, that that that canyon

1401
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: of grief that people feel lost in, that they could

1402
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: find their way out knowing that there's something else and

1403
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 1: that they're not alone. That to me would be the

1404
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 1: high that you know, and that life and love eternal

1405
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: um the low part um, you know, I guess the

1406
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 1: low part would just be knowing that I have to

1407
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: I have two options. You know, I'm either this heinous

1408
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 1: person who's taking advantage of grieving people, or I'm delusional

1409
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: and crazy, you know. But I guess I respect that

1410
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: because I was that person when I first came in

1411
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 1: the field. So I have a little bit of a like,

1412
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: I know what you're at, you know, you just you

1413
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: don't know like I learned. And so I guess that's

1414
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 1: probably the closest. People will always think of you as

1415
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 1: the Emperor without clothes. No matter what, You'll always be

1416
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: some Yeah, it's just the it's the life you chose. Well,

1417
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: you know. Either even either I'm the person that you know,

1418
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 1: really helped someone, you know, and I have the emails

1419
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 1: and letters and you know, go on Facebook to you know,

1420
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: to prove that, or you can just google South Part

1421
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 1: you know, season six, I think episode fifteen where they've

1422
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: named me the biggest duche of the universe. So it's

1423
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 1: like like, you know, I have I have both ends

1424
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: and inspect room, and that's okay. And that's okay because

1425
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: I'll take that and I'll take all the negatives that

1426
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: come with it for the next time. I'm sitting in

1427
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: front of her parent who's lost a child and I

1428
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: can help them know that their kids okay. Or the

1429
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 1: person who's lost their loved ones from COVID and couldn't

1430
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: be in the room, and I can help them know

1431
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 1: that their loved ones are okay. And we're met by

1432
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 1: people have gone on before them, because nobody passes alone.

1433
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: So you know, death brings so many unanswered questions for

1434
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: people in circumstances, and sometimes they don't get answered in

1435
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: the reading. But when we find that there's a survival

1436
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 1: of consciousness and that life and love eternal, that to

1437
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: me is a reward. And you how long have you

1438
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: been married? Years? So what would be your some of

1439
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 1: the guidelines or tools that you go to when things

1440
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: aren't great, or just to keep your marriage together. Not

1441
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 1: that you have any problems. I'm just saying I talked

1442
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 1: to people about successful relationships, and everybody has the most

1443
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 1: unique wisdom, from giving each other space, to connecting once

1444
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 1: a day to fixing themselves not the other person. So

1445
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:02,759
Speaker 1: what would be your SUCCE relationship advice? I think being friends?

1446
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 1: You know, Like my son had asked me many years

1447
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 1: ago when he was a kid. He goes, would you

1448
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: ever cancel mommy out? And I didn't know what. I

1449
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 1: didn't know really what was asking me? And I'm like,

1450
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 1: I don't know, I said, justin Dadd's got a pretty

1451
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 1: big personality. I go, is that what you're asking me? Like? Like,

1452
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: am I too big for my Like? What is the question?

1453
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 1: He goes, No, one of his friends his parents were

1454
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: getting divorced. He goes, would you ever? And I go, oh,

1455
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: would mom and daddy even get divorced? I go, well,

1456
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: here's the good news even if we wound up getting divorced, right,

1457
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 1: because sometimes you never know what happens in a in

1458
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 1: a in a future. If there's a lesson there for

1459
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: one of us, Um, here's what you just need to know.

1460
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: We actually genuinely like each other as people, so it

1461
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 1: really wouldn't matter. So I think friendship is important, you know,

1462
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I'm a character that she could

1463
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: write for a TV show. She's a character that I

1464
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 1: could write for a TV show, Like we know the

1465
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 1: character so well. Yeah, and it doesn't matter in like,

1466
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: like you know, with the pandemic. I've been home for

1467
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 1: like eighteens and nothing on the road. It's the first

1468
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: time I've been around her this long, for so long,

1469
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 1: and you know, she'll jokingly say, like, isn't there some

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Speaker 1: city or state to be in, like, you know, time

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Speaker 1: for you to go packy bags, let's go. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: I like that because most people, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: that Hollywood, with with images, is trying to make every

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Speaker 1: relationship perfect. And I like to talk about the embrace

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Speaker 1: the imperfections. It gives other people hope and makes them

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Speaker 1: feel that their life is real and just tools to

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Speaker 1: have a successful, realistic relationship, you know, without the fairy

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Speaker 1: tale princess aspect of it. Um. Okay, so did you

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Speaker 1: did you while we were talking and I'm not asking

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Speaker 1: you to read me? Were you like thinking about me

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Speaker 1: reading me? Anything? Did you like that doesn't happen, like,

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Speaker 1: were you picking up who I am or I am not?

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Speaker 1: Is that? How does it work like that? Or no

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Speaker 1: people talking at a restaurant. Yeah, no, I was just

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Speaker 1: really enjoying the questions and you actually when you said

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Speaker 1: the whole when you jump you fly, Yeah, you jump

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Speaker 1: you fly, because I said, you know, when I jumped

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Speaker 1: my sword, So that was kind of cool, like I

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Speaker 1: was like a cool parallel. Well, I appreciate the time.

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Speaker 1: What an interesting interview. Well, I'm so thrilled to have

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Speaker 1: met you. I know we have friends in common and um,

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Speaker 1: you're close, so maybe we'll all get together because I'm

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Speaker 1: literally an away from you now. But I just appreciate

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Speaker 1: the time. So congratulations on everything, and I love to

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Speaker 1: your family and thank you so much. All righty, thanks

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Speaker 1: for having me. Wow that was John Edward. He is

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Speaker 1: a person that is known in the world as a

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Speaker 1: successful medium, but he doesn't think of himself as a medium.

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Speaker 1: He talks about himself as a writer. He does speaking engagements,

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Speaker 1: he's an educator. But the thing that I took away

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Speaker 1: the most was that he's saying we all have it

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Speaker 1: in us, meaning it's about energy and like anything else,

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Speaker 1: It's not about somebody just sitting outside a tent with

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Speaker 1: a crystal ball. It's that he focuses on this instrument, this,

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Speaker 1: this craft, this thing that he realized reluctantly early on

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Speaker 1: in his life that was a path that he should

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Speaker 1: embark on. And he was certainly not in an environment

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Speaker 1: where that would be a normal thing to do, so

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Speaker 1: it definitely compelled him. So um, it's just interesting for

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Speaker 1: us all to think whether you believe or don't believe,

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Speaker 1: you definitely believe that you know things happen for a reason,

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Speaker 1: or that certain rooms have good energy or bad energy,

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01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 1: or that a friend has a good energy or bad energy.

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Speaker 1: So it's just something for us to all think about that.

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Speaker 1: It was a great conversation, different conversation with someone in

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Speaker 1: a different profession, but yet still a person who has

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Speaker 1: created a successful business and has been on an interesting journey.

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Speaker 1: And we can learn from so many different people, so

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Speaker 1: many different paths to success. So thank you again, Rate,

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Speaker 1: review and subscribe. That was really really interesting and I

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Speaker 1: love bringing different people on. I just love that I

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Speaker 1: can learn so much about a business from Ben and Jerry,

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Speaker 1: from Jeffrey Katz, and from Cameron Diaz from John Edward.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm intentionally bringing on different people who I

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Speaker 1: just think might have an interesting story. Suzanne Summers, so

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Speaker 1: many people said you have the most interesting story. It's

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Speaker 1: just people that we would never really get to hear

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Speaker 1: how they got to where they are, so I love it. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you do too, and have a wonderful day.