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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio. Yeah, welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly

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Speaker 1: you have a chance to take part in a special

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Speaker 1: edition of Steelers Nation United Huddle with Alan Fanica on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: That's at noon. It's live. It's an interactive call which

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Speaker 1: on how to take part in the Huddle. That's Thursday

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Speaker 1: at noon. Uh. Yeah, congratulations to Alan Fannik. I had

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Speaker 1: a pretty good feeling about that. One kind of calling

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Speaker 1: that since the last get the other. And I knew

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Speaker 1: that Bill Nunn was you know, he was going to

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Speaker 1: get in because the contributors usually do. Uh. Fanica was

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Speaker 1: a little more there was some dice nous there. But

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Speaker 1: I had a pretty good feeling about it, given you

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Speaker 1: know what I'd heard in last year's Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: voter meeting. But really feel good for both of those

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Speaker 1: guys their families. Um, and yeah, I think it's on

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Speaker 1: February eleventh, which I guess would also be was that Thursday.

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Speaker 1: I think, Uh, the NFL Networks going to run a

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Speaker 1: special on the on the Hall of Fame. Knock. Um,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have a special showing all the reactions of

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Speaker 1: those guys when when David Baker came out and a

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Speaker 1: little bit different, he had to go to their houses

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Speaker 1: and or they they set they set Peyton Manning up

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Speaker 1: at the at the Bronco Mile High Stadium. They had

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Speaker 1: him thinking that he was going there to tape another

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden there's David Baker there instead, and

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Speaker 1: you know, they just they did they did that with

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Speaker 1: Charles Woodson as well. They had Woodson set up to

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Speaker 1: here comes David Baker comes walking out. That's what him though.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, Fanica said he didn't know his They called

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Speaker 1: ahead to tell his wife, um, because they had to

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Speaker 1: were close by that they could get there and you

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Speaker 1: can make up something like, hey, we're having pizza tonight.

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Speaker 1: But they were hiding in the backyard apparent. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: when the knock came on the door, Alan went to

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Speaker 1: like in boxers and a torn up T shirt, right,

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Speaker 1: which is kind of like that happened with Calvin Johnson.

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Speaker 1: We thought talked to him yesterday as well, and you

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Speaker 1: in shorts of course, living in Michigan, and they weren't

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Speaker 1: outside in the shorts and T shirts to uh but yeah,

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Speaker 1: good group. Congrats to Fana, Congrats to none in his family.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're very well deserving. In my opinion, I

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Speaker 1: and it just goes to show you, Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that didn't help his case too, but that's

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Speaker 1: great that he's in. Um, I still't understand Lynch, to

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Speaker 1: I wish I would have had that stat for Fanic.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I didn't know what it was

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Speaker 1: for by comparisons sakes, Fani, I had this many and

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Speaker 1: and it was four four in his entire career. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've I've heard that number throwing around a lot of well,

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Speaker 1: big reason why we have four holding penalties and like yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I should have had that, and you corrected it and

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Speaker 1: certainly a strong class and man August fifth through the

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Speaker 1: we talked to Art Rooney the second yesterday and he said,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers may have to get the biggest tent in

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Speaker 1: Five members of the Steelers going into the Hall of

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Speaker 1: talking about people going into the Hall of Fame next summer,

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Speaker 1: them at thirty two members of the franchise that are

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Speaker 1: End the Bears have a bunch of guys from way

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Speaker 1: only like three fifty a little bit more than three

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Speaker 1: fifty people in the entire Hall of Fame, and almost

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Speaker 1: ten percent or Steelers Steelers. I mean, I guess Joe

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Speaker 1: out of It's been a it's been a pretty steady march,

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Speaker 1: right right, And that's why I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a while before the Steelers get another one. I think

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Speaker 1: it'll be, don't you probably been? Probably Ben will be

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Speaker 1: will become eligible here. But when you look at wards

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Speaker 1: there's no statistic for that. There isn't you know. I Mean,

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Speaker 1: I've heard people, really intelligent people talk about Ward verse

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Speaker 1: three than hines Ward. You know, just after Ravens how

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Speaker 1: much you hate playing against hines Ward. But I've never

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Speaker 1: been on the Ward for Hall of Fame vote. I mean,

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Speaker 1: an Kon bold is an Kwon Bolden Hall of Famer. No, No,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta pretty special, Chris Carter, Larry Fitzgerald.

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Speaker 1: next guy. Yeah, I think so, because Harrison to me,

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl play that he made is to me

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Speaker 1: the greatest defensive play in Super Bowl history. And I

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Speaker 1: what was the first four or five years of his career.

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Speaker 1: He's a special teams player. The last the last four

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Speaker 1: part time player. I mean, I think the guys from

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Speaker 1: that era that he's going to fight against, Julius Peppers free,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of them. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: the Joey Porter thing, Like Joey Porter finished with sacks

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Speaker 1: reminds me of Flora is getting in this year too.

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Speaker 1: He was one of the only coaches that two Super

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Speaker 1: Bowls until now that didn't get in. Right, there are

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Speaker 1: some milestones, but I don't see Porter or Harrison on

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Speaker 1: free for all. You know, who's gonna get to the

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Speaker 1: quarterback first? Uh. One other thing that I noted I

428
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Speaker 1: was watching the game is Tampa Bay use their running

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Speaker 1: backs not just to run the football. They ran the

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Speaker 1: ball effectively, which which you want, which you can do

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00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: against Kansas City. Um, but they also used them again

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00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: against Kansas City's linebackers. Get those guys out of the

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Speaker 1: backfield and get you know, four net three yards down

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Speaker 1: field with a head of steam, and you're gonna get

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00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 1: twelve fifteen yards out of it. It's every time, no question.

436
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: And Ronald Jones a terrible receiver and they threw to

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Speaker 1: him once or twice and that doesn't usually work. For

438
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Speaker 1: that's not even great. He's better and he's cotton. He

439
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: has some some nice reception totals in his career. I

440
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: think his last year in Jacksonville, not this not this year,

441
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: the last year he got fifty or sixty balls. But

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00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 1: they're not special routes. You know, it's just getting him

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00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 1: past the line of scrimmage with the ball in his

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00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: hand and a head of steam and an easy row

445
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: slows down the rush. You know, it's it's free yardage.

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00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: That to me, I mean again, it goes back to

447
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: it too. Why I think the Steelers need to draft

448
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 1: a running back in the first two rounds of the street.

449
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 1: They need a special back. It doesn't have to be

450
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: again done four net. They doesn't have to be the

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00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: third pick in the draft like four net was. And

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00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: he still isn't worth that, and I people like pick

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Speaker 1: up four net. That's a different story whatever, But he

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00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: needs to be able to do more than he needs

455
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: to offer something the passing game. Whoever this guy, then

456
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 1: you can have your receivers run deeper routes. You don't

457
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 1: have to have everybody running the short stuff because you're

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00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: running back is running this. That's what made Levy on

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Speaker 1: Bell so effective because he was running those is, you know,

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00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: eight yard routes those six yards. You know, now you

461
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: could in that situation. Okay, juju, you go, you go

462
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: ahead and run a fifteen yard out here or something

463
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 1: like that, as opposed to being the guy running those

464
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: intermediate routes. The stats nerds will tell you the most

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00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: efficient play in football is throwing to a running back

466
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: on first and ten. It's five yards six yards every time.

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00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: I mean, then the rest of the drives downhill, you know.

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00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 1: I mean then you can take a shot, or you

469
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,239
Speaker 1: can pound it, or second and six is great, you know.

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Speaker 1: And it's not a hard thing to execute. That's what

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Speaker 1: I mean by efficient. It's not a high variance play.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be a super schemed up situation.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I used to coach my kid in flag football,

474
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Speaker 1: and one of our staple plays was everybody run deep

475
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: and our little running back just kind of hang around

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Speaker 1: here and if the quarterback trouble, dump with the head

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00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: and they'll pick up ten, you know, and they were

478
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: eight year olds and it's really not that different. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I mean to me that that that just drove

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Speaker 1: that him that man, they need they need a back

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00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: because even when Jones, when Jones broke the line of scrimmage,

482
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: but he was a good runner. At least they don't

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Speaker 1: have anybody with that burst when who McFarland has that

484
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Speaker 1: burst but he doesn't know what he's doing. Snell doesn't

485
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Speaker 1: have the burst and he never Yeah, it's not gonna

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna get that burst. Connor doesn't have that burst.

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Speaker 1: I mean they gotta break a tackle to get through

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Speaker 1: something like I don't have a hole in the line

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Speaker 1: that is you know you can drive a car through. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I also like seeing just talking schematics and stuff. Something

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Speaker 1: I didn't see coming because when I previewed that game

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Speaker 1: a lot, I said, boy, I expect a lot of

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Speaker 1: twelve personnel from the box and the Chiefs will come

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Speaker 1: out in Nickel and the Chiefs will say, run it

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Speaker 1: all day long. You can't keep up with pat and

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Speaker 1: score thirty five. Well I was slightly right and that

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00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 1: they ran it with heavy personnel, and I was very

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Speaker 1: wrong that they needed thirty five to win. Because the

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00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,959
Speaker 1: Chiefs didn't score a touchdown. But then I loved seeing

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Speaker 1: he's not a great player and he dropped touchdown or

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00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: but the extra offensive lineman coming in there with Gronk

502
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: was like, it didn't mean they couldn't throw with Haig

503
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: and a tackle and Gronk a great blocker and a

504
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: big back leg four net and you still have a

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00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: lot of dangerous dudes on the field. But the Chiefs

506
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: had no match for that. They don't want to play bass,

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00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: you know, you made them play bass with two bad

508
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: linebackers on the field as opposed to thorn Hill and

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Speaker 1: Mathow and all those guys running around, and they had

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00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: no answer for that at all. Yeah, So I I

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00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 1: think you know, when people say ask, you know, what

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Speaker 1: lessons can the Steelers take out of that game? I

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00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 1: think there's some things that you look at you say, okay,

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00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: they could these are fixable things. These are things that

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00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 1: you can do. You can get a better running back,

516
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: you can get another cover inside linebacker that you know.

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00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: I mean, they got the front already, the defensive front.

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Speaker 1: They have the young secondary too, I thought, I mean,

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00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 1: the Bucks played their best game. The Chiefs played their

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00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: worst game too. You know. I mean, let's not forget

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Speaker 1: that a huge thing though I took away from that

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00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: game too, which isn't gonna sound positive, but Steeler light

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Speaker 1: is and this gives Brady a lot of credit. And

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Speaker 1: I always talked about that week thirteen by for Tampa

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00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: that their play action numbers basically doubled from Week thirteen on.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know this for a fact, but I

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00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: would bet every dollar I owned. Brady went into left

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00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: Wich is an Arian's office during that break and said,

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00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: we need to get back doing things I'm more comfortable with.

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00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: The Patriots were always the top of league and play action.

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Speaker 1: Last night they play action the heck out of him.

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00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: All three of his touchdowns came off play action. They

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00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: averaged like twelve yards for playoff play action, and the

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00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: Steelers are always at the bottom of late league, and

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00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: that I think is going to change this. That's what

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00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: I was gonna saying, you know, like, I know, that's

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00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: not Ben's deal, but I've gotten to the point now

538
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: where it's got to be. I think it wasn't Ben's

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00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: deal because it wasn't first of all, arians deal. True,

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00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: Oh that's pretty, and then it was you know it

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00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily Hayley's deal because Benn it becomes setting his

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00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: ways and thing right, and so now you go to

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00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: him and say, hey, look, this is this is the

544
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: way of the future. And if you have on the

545
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: league anymore, if you have a threat at the running

546
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: back position, it helps. That help. I mean, you can't

547
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: be you know, people want to wax poetically about even

548
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: the mun Chack days. Even then the Steelers were like

549
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: twenty six in the league running the football and they

550
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: were not a strong running team. So they've got to

551
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: get better there. You gotta, you gotta. You can't have

552
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 1: the thirty second paid running back room and have no

553
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: talent there and expect them to be middle of the

554
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: road in production. Now you've gotten away without a wide

555
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: receiver and you've excelled at it. But you know you

556
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: got to. You got away with it quite frankly, when

557
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: you had Levi on Bell and his rookie contract. Yes,

558
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: absolutely know you found a special player there. And how

559
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: much different was the offense then, I mean, I'm mu

560
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: sure bends much different now than then. That position is yeah, Oh,

561
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: there's there's no doubt about it. And you know, people say, well,

562
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: why haven't the Steelers won, you know, they they haven't

563
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: paired up that offense and defense. They had a great

564
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: offense and the defense was quite frankly lacking. Yeah, you

565
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: know they had Kansas City's defense makes it awful, is

566
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: it's a hard thing to do in this You use

567
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: that many first round picks in a row on defense

568
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: or how many times? I mean we talked about this

569
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: before Tom Brady was ever a Buck. I mean last

570
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: year the Bucks defense was like third in defense of

571
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: d V O A, but like points because the quarterback

572
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: turn of all over forty times. So they hit that

573
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: great peak where the offense got better and better and

574
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: better as the season went on. The defense had a

575
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: little bit of a lull but then peaked at the

576
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: right time. And a lot of it's great drafting, Like, yes,

577
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: adding Brady is wonderful and side guys like a B

578
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: and four net and Gronk, But for the most part

579
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: they're pretty home grown. They drafted their defense. They added

580
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: a couple of pieces Winfield and Worth huge, but they're

581
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: they're guys on first contracts are very very valuable to them. Yeah,

582
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: their their problem is they don't have a long term

583
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: They don't have a long term playing a quarterback now

584
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: right right right, so at some point that you know,

585
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: you're you know, Brady's gonna get older, retire, or you

586
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: would think, you know, Uh, so I wanted to talk

587
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: about that next. Um. I did a little research yesterday

588
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: over the last three drafts and said, what does it

589
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: cost to move up and get a quarterback? Is really

590
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: in conversation and quick note to you're picking thirty second,

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00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: You're not gonna get mac Jones. There's not gonna be

592
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: one this year either. That's gonna be next year's project. Right, yeah,

593
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: you know, so yeah, let's let's take a look at that.

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Speaker 1: When we come back. He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lally.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Ye, welcome back. I'm Dale Ally

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Speaker 1: here with Matt Williamson and Matt um. Over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: that reported that this week the Steelers will meet with

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger and his representative Ryan Tallner. Uh, they'll start

601
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to get that that the

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00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: cap hit down. On Friday, we saw Drew Brees make

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Speaker 1: it deal. I didn't quite understand it. I think you

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00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: dug into it more than I did, because he's gonna

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Speaker 1: retire essentially. Yeah, what they do is they put on

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Speaker 1: a couple of avoidable years at the end of the

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00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: deal so they can they can then stretch out that

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Speaker 1: signing bonus money over the next two years and they

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Speaker 1: don't think, well, actually really into next year, so they

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00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: don't have to take the entire hit this year, even

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Speaker 1: though they know he's not gonna play, right, and he

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Speaker 1: hasn't officially announced it, but this is setting up four retirement. Yes,

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Speaker 1: but you had texted me over the weekend and I

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Speaker 1: don't mean to stud your thunder that the Steelers could

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00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: do something similar without Ben retiring though, right right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you just you extend him into in the next year

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Speaker 1: and maybe even beyond that, and you get you can

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00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: then because the more years you put on that it

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Speaker 1: gives you more. It allows you to take a lower

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Speaker 1: cap hit on the bonus money, which you know the

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Speaker 1: Steelers if they if if Ben has to be amenable

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Speaker 1: to this, but um you can get that number down

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Speaker 1: to around twenty eight million real easily by doing that

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00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: as opposed to five. Um. So he doesn't lose any

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00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: money in the deal and is a different way of

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00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: struct during it. Huh So why not? Why not? You

627
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: know people complaining about well, you know, they should just

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00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: cut him and take the twenty two million dollar capit. Okay,

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Speaker 1: would you rather have Ben Roethlisberger at an additional six

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Speaker 1: million dollars? Is that? Does that sound better too? Or

631
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: would you just cut him and not have him? But

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00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: you still have you still twenty he still counts twenty

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00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: two million dollars against your cap and a quarterback need,

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00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: and and now you've opened up a need for a

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00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: quarterback where you're probably gonna have to go sign a

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00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: guy who's going to I mean, I haven't bring up

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Speaker 1: guys like Brissette and Winston. They're gonna be ten plus, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's a cheap option, you know, Dalton or

639
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I'm aiming low here, yeah. Or

640
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: if you're gonna trade for Donald, I mean that's the

641
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: first round pick then too. Like all of those things

642
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: we talked about, boy can use the back in the

643
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: linebacker any well, you're not getting it. Yeah, And you're

644
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: putting an unproven talented guy back there, which to me

645
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: is why I think the Steelers should wait until next

646
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: year to make that move for a quarterback. I think

647
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: you have some definite needs going into this year because

648
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: of the cap situation that you need to take care

649
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: of your offensive line, the running back position, maybe an

650
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: inside linebacker potentially, you know, a tight end you're gonna need.

651
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: There's needs there that if you go out and get

652
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: the go out and trade a bunch of picks to

653
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: get a quarterback, which is what you have to do,

654
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: and we're gonna run through some of what what Yeah,

655
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: that's what that cost is um here. It doesn't allow

656
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: you to build around the young quarterback you should have.

657
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: You should have your foundation in place before you make

658
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: that move. I always call it building a nest. Yeah,

659
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: it's like bringing your first kid home from the hospital.

660
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: You have to have the nursery already, you've got you

661
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: better have diapers, you better have a nice, clean, you know,

662
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: beautiful room for them in a crib, and first time

663
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: parents forget half that stuff, you know, just like Washington

664
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: bringing in Haskins. I mean they didn't have the nest

665
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: ready for the baby. Sam. We'll go through some of

666
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: these here. So the first one that comes to mind,

667
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: because he was just traded last week. The Rams traded

668
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: up to get to the number one pick to get

669
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: Jared Goff. Remember this is Jeff Fisher's team doing so.

670
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: They traded with the Tennessee Titans, who had the number

671
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: one overall pick. Just a few of the players that

672
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: they traded to go get Jared Goff. Uh. They here's

673
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: what they traded. They sent their two thousand sixteen first

674
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: round pick to to to second round picks that year

675
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: in the third round pick, and they also sent their

676
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: first and second round picks in so they traded five

677
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: round five picks premiums Uh. Tennessee sent back that their

678
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 1: first round pick, a fourth round pick in a sixth

679
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: round pick that same That are just kind of throws.

680
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 1: So some of the players that were drafted with those

681
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: picks the the Tennessee got back Jack Conklin making a

682
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: lot of money in Tennessee, Derrick Henry. Again, they just

683
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: one offensive player of the year, Corey Davis. Yeah, it's

684
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: been very good for them. Yeah, Austin Johnson, who's who's

685
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: a serviceable defensive line so, I mean, and there were

686
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: some other guys thrown in there as well. Four guy

687
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: four starters, including the Offensive Player of the Year. Two

688
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: things want to mention about that. First of all, if

689
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: they would have kept their picks, they wouldn't have drafted

690
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: those specific places. But it shows you the value of

691
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: what you're getting, what you're trading away. I mean, and frankly,

692
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: you'd have the choice, you might take somebody better. I mean,

693
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: you addressed more of a position. You wouldn't you know,

694
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: you would have addressed your needs, your specific needs. And

695
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: then Rams specifically, that's the last first round pick they've had,

696
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: and then they doubled down on it, were trading for

697
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: Stafford because they traded two more first round picks to

698
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: go get Stafford. So Brandon coax Jalen Ramsey in the

699
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: process too. This whole Jared Goff thing has set that franchise,

700
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: to me, set the franchise back. Yeah. I mean they

701
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl and they've been very successful.

702
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 1: And he's not JaMarcus Russell. I mean they've won games

703
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: with them, you know. I mean, he hasn't killed the

704
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: organization to that degree. But when you lay it out

705
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: like that, what did we actually pay for this dude?

706
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: And then had to go buy another one? Right? And

707
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: then he wasn't good enough. So we had to go

708
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 1: double you know, double down on this and trade away

709
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: two more first round picks right to go to go

710
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: get somebody to replace this guy. And we traded for

711
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: a thirty three year old order back with who has

712
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: broken his back twice. See, like I look at the

713
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: Rams and think they could win the Super Bowl. There's

714
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: one of these next two years or both. I mean,

715
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: they could be really good, but they could be the

716
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: worst team in the league three years from now to ye.

717
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: I mean with if you don't bring the first round

718
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: pick for seven years, that's gonna catch up to you. Yeah, well,

719
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: there's no doubt. I mean at some point that that

720
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: bill is gonna come do kind of like the Saints

721
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: right now, The bill comes to at some point when

722
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: you when you spend that much and put that much

723
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: into it, trading away picks. Hey, we're just we're last year.

724
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 1: What they have three? Three draft picks in the entire draft?

725
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: Where is that two years ago? The Rams three? Because

726
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: they were going there, Hey we're going forward, trade up. Yeah,

727
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: that's the difference of the Rams. I give the Rams

728
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: credit because they do bring in a lot of picks

729
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: every year because they trade down and they use the

730
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: camp market well, but they don't seem old. Dow He

731
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: just want defensive player of the year and Ramsey might

732
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: be the best coring the league. They'll be old and

733
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: two years and Stafford is already old. And you know

734
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: would if you don't win next year with Stafford, you're old. Yeah,

735
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And all of a sudden,

736
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald's thirty. I mean, they're a blink away from

737
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: being old. Um. Some of the other trades that have

738
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: been made in that time. That same year, the Eagles

739
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: traded up to number two to get Carson Wentz and

740
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: they had to make They had to make a couple

741
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: of moves to get up there. They did move twice,

742
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: so they moved up there. First of all, they sent

743
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: their eighth pick. I'm sorry, they moved up. They traded

744
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: with Miami. They had the thirteenth pick that year. They

745
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: had to trade up to eight, so they traded the

746
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: thirteenth pick, which ended up being Laramie Tunsil. They also

747
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: traded by long Mask. Yeah. They also traded Byron Max

748
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: back Brian Byron Maxwell and Kiko Alonso to make up that.

749
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: To make that move up, those two were salary dumps

750
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: at the time. That made the deal right. But it's

751
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: funny is that deal happened like a week before the

752
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,959
Speaker 1: draft they were positioning. Never happens someone has a trade

753
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: from eight to fifteen before the draft, not knowing it

754
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: was either. So they then traded. Uh. They traded the

755
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: eighth pick at third round pick in fourth round pick

756
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: that that same draft, and then the first round pick

757
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: in second round pick to the Browns for the second

758
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: pick in the two thousand and sixteen draft, which they

759
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: then used on Wentz. Um yea. The Browns traded some

760
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: of those picks, including trading down with Tennessee then which

761
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: used to pick on Jack Conklin, who then ends up

762
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: being a Brown and they s, you know, whatever it was,

763
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: we just talked about fifteen million dollars year to acquire him.

764
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 1: They could have just drafted him. Yeah. Um, because people

765
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: killed the Browns you traded away from Wentz. Now they're

766
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: not killing him so much. They also traded away the

767
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: pick with Houston, that pick for DeShawn Watson that would

768
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: have been the Shawn Watson. The Eagles won the Super

769
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: Bowl at the end of the two thousand seventeen season,

770
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: but Wentz didn't play in that game. He was injuries. Yeah,

771
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: so it's just one thing that's interesting about that deal though,

772
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: is if I recall that offseason they had Folds, they

773
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: drafted Wentz who they didn't think they could get two

774
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: to get, and they loved the guy, and they're going

775
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: to trade him in the next two days supposedly, But

776
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: then Teddy Bridgewater blows out his knee and they still

777
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: had Sam Bradford and shipped him for a one. So

778
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: they kind of luck that, which was fortunate for them. Yeah,

779
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: that's total luck, total luck, because he wasn't worth the

780
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: one to begin with. Um, the Texans traded up for

781
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. We've already talked a little bit about this one. So, um,

782
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: the Texans are looking for a trade partner to move

783
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: up from twenty five in two thousand seventeen for Watson.

784
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: The Browns had three first round draft picks that your

785
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: thanks to making the trade the trades the previous year,

786
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: So they got Houston's first round pick in seventeen and

787
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: their first round pick in for the twelfth pick in

788
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: that draft, uh from the which he had already acquired

789
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: from the Eagles, which was so the Texans got Watson,

790
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: who's the franchise quarterback super Sorry, Yeah, the Brown they

791
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: took uh safety Jabrill Peppers, who they later traded along

792
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: with guard Kevin Zeitler, a first round pick in twenty

793
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 1: nineteen and third round pick that year for wide receiver

794
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham in defensive lineman Olivier Vernon, which I don't

795
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: think they won that deal, by the way. But the

796
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: next year, the pick that they got from the Brown

797
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 1: or from the Texans was the fourth overall pick, which

798
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: they then used on Denzel Award. So you had two

799
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: of the top four picks in that draft. Now, had

800
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: you take had you taken Watson instead of trading out

801
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: of that, you still could end up with war You

802
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: could have had Ward and Watson and you had you know,

803
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: maybe you don't have the first overall pick because you

804
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: had Watson, but you've been bad. You'd have been you'd

805
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: have got Bradley Chubb or something, but you don't take

806
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. Maybe build something else there, which takes us

807
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: to this real quick. While you said that though, that

808
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: one was a little steel irrelevant because the Texans traded

809
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: from twenty five to twelve to get Watson, while the

810
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: Steelers and maybe Trey Lance falls to twelve. You know,

811
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: like that was only two first at wait, just talked

812
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: about the nest. I want to build the nest. First

813
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: it was two. It was two first, and there was

814
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: some more stuff. There was some other Yeah, I would

815
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: make you really light elsewhere. But if trade Lands turned

816
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: into Shawn Watson, which chances are slam. Yeah. The Chiefs

817
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: traded up that same year to get Patrick Mahomes. They

818
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: traded up from seven to ten with Buffalo. Yeah, so

819
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: the Bills used those picks they got, they got a

820
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: they sent the pick a third round pick that year

821
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: in Kansas City's two thousand and eighteen first round, picked

822
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: the Buffalo for the tenth pick in the draft. The

823
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: Bills took worked which worked out. Yeah, but you don't know,

824
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's still a gamble. The Bills took tor

825
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: Debous White Pro Bowl cornerback. They then packaged those other

826
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: picks that they got to move up to take Dion Dawkins,

827
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 1: who's the starting offensive tackle one. And then the next

828
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: year they used that pick, that tenth pick that they

829
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,959
Speaker 1: got to move up and get Tremaine Edmonds. Okay, which

830
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: was also the same draft class as Josh Allen because

831
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: they were I want to stay talk about building the nest.

832
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: I thought Buffalo did a good job of building a nest.

833
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 1: If they wouldn't if you're taking my homes, they've been happy,

834
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: don't get me right. But I think they looked at

835
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: it of we need one more year a Tyrod Taylor

836
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: and Dawkins and Edmonds and you know these things around it,

837
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: and then next year we'll get our quarterback in Allan.

838
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: They didn't know who was gonna be at the time,

839
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: but and then they took him the year after they

840
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: traded away from Homes. Yeah, we got the Bears moved

841
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: up for Trabisky. That was a ridiculous trade. We've talked

842
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: about that one in the past, and neither team really

843
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: worked out for that one. And that one the only

844
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: team that worked out for was New Orleans, which made

845
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: a trade with one of those picks to get Alvin

846
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 1: Kamara in the third round the Ravens. So this isn't

847
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: This one was interesting. The Ravens moved up to get

848
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson the next year. Yeah, right late at the

849
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: end of the first They had already taken Hayden Hurst

850
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: earlier in the first round. Uh Baltimore sent the seconds

851
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: second round pick, which was fifty second in the fourth

852
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: round selection and along with the en second round pick

853
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: to the Eagles to move up and take Jackson with

854
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: the thirty seconds selection. The Eagles used those picks to

855
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: acquire Dallas Goddard, Miles Sanders, and Avante Maddox, all three starters. Yeah, right,

856
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: right right, all in the second round. You know, second

857
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: round guys that they were able to get out of

858
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: that making that move that yeah, right right, they're a

859
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: quality dude. Yeah. The Cardinals moved up for Josh Rosen.

860
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: That one didn't That one didn't work out at all.

861
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: The Cardinals traded the fifteenth pick in the draft, a

862
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: third and a fifth round selection in to move up

863
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: to the ten spot. Um. Yeah, yeah, ahead of Allen,

864
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: ahead of Alan. Yeah, and moved away from a year

865
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: I actually no, that wasn't ahead of Alan. Allen was

866
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: want right before him, right before that. But they could

867
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: have taken Jackson. They could have taken Jackson, right, Yeah,

868
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: they didn't know king kind of quarterback you want. The

869
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 1: Raiders took with that fifteenth pick, Colton Miller. He said,

870
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: he's okay, I's he's starting tackle, and that's they don't

871
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: grow on trees. Josh Rosens on his fourth team. They

872
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: took the wrong guy. Uh. The Bills went also went

873
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: up to get Josh Allen. They could have taken Watson

874
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: the previous You remember that they had that pick Um.

875
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: So they sent the twelfth overall pick the Um along

876
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: with two second round selections, which were fifty three and

877
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: fifty six, so pretty high picks. UH to the Buccaneers

878
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: to move up to get Uh set to move up

879
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: to seven to get Alan. Tampa Bay took nose tackle

880
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: Vida v at twelve. Yeah, they took cornerback m J.

881
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: Stewart with the first of those two second round picks.

882
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: He's the only defensive back that's not on the team

883
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 1: that they've drafted up. But they traded that second second

884
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: round pick fifty six to the Patriots, who took cornerback

885
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: Duke Dawson. Was a bad pick. They traded back, and

886
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: what they got from New England for that was a

887
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: pick that they used to take Carlton Davis and a

888
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: fourth round pick that they used to take Jordan White hit.

889
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: Both of them started in their secondary yesterday and they've

890
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: thrown a lot of early picks at defensive backs because

891
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: they've had extra ones, right. Interesting, And the final one

892
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: here and this one here is the kicker. The Jets

893
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: traded up from six to three to get Sam Donald

894
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: that year. Yeah okay, Um Mayfield and Kwan went to

895
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: first rate. So they traded their first round pick, which

896
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: is six, two second round picks in eighteen, and a

897
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: second round pick in twenty nineteen to the Colts to

898
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 1: go get Donald. The Colts then turned those picks into

899
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: the six pick that year was Quentin Nelson. Remember they

900
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: andrew Luck at this point. Yeah, I mean, they didn't

901
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: think they had a quarterback need, so they take Quentin

902
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: Nelson sixth. They then filled another spot on their offensive

903
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: linement and with the Jets first second round pick taking

904
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: Brandon Smith, you got you too, yeah uh. They then

905
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: traded their second round pick to the Eagles, who took Goddard.

906
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: They get some picks that and then they used that

907
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: second round pick in on cornerback rockyest scene. They made

908
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: a lot of second round picks later too, And now

909
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: they're starting to get aggressed that they've built the nest.

910
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: You know, interesting, I mean, by no means are Houston,

911
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: while Houston's in an asterix by them Kansas City. None

912
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: of them are unhappy about trading up. I mean, if

913
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: you get a franchise quarterback. And this goes back to

914
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: our Friday conversation of all the first round picks that

915
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: aren't with their teams and whatnot, but if you get

916
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: one that is, no matter what the cost, it's worth it.

917
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: But it's a massive risk. And this leads us probably

918
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: to our live MOK draft session. Trading back is good business,

919
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It helps you build that

920
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: nest because you know, for two years ago, well goffam

921
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: wins so that a long time. You know, starters for

922
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: these franchise you know they Mariota Winston, you know right.

923
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: I mean just they weren't trade ups, but their first

924
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: two picks. I mean, you can't go wrong. Well, trading

925
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: down ain't so bad. Sometimes they do, and and you

926
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: need that extra AMMO to to be able to do that. Now,

927
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: next year the Steelers should get some comp pics from

928
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:01,959
Speaker 1: some of the guys that they lost. You year, They'll

929
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: have more AMMO next year to be able to make

930
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: a move like that, if they so choose, If they

931
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 1: so choose, and maybe they go free agency, and they

932
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: also cap space also, Yeah, they'll have cap space. They

933
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: have the ability to make a trade. Yeah, make an

934
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: actual trade for a quarterback. There's there's all kinds of

935
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: options that are open to them. To me, trading up

936
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: this year giving up that kind of package for a

937
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: quarterback doesn't make any sense, especially if you bring him

938
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: in here, even if it's trade Lance, but it's probably

939
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: would be Matt Jones, who I'm not as excited about.

940
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: I mean, Lance, I'd like to sit on the bench

941
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: because he's got a higher upside, but he's behind a

942
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: line that needs two or three things without a running game.

943
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: And to do that, you you probably to make that

944
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: kind of move to go from twenty four to ten

945
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: or seven where you have to get to have a

946
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: first round pick next year. Right, I'm trading away too much, right,

947
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: And then you get then you get to the point

948
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: where well, now we have to go, Yeah, now you're

949
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 1: gonna go sign Jack Conklin for seventeen million dollars a year. Yeah,

950
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: and that ain't the Steeler's way of doing things. And

951
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: even if they do of the cash, which they wouldn't year,

952
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: then you cut those guys two years later and your

953
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: cat problems are bad again, you know, now you're the Browns. Yeah,

954
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: and the quarterback situation could be a disaster this year.

955
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: But then you I mean not that this is a

956
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: good thing, but then you're picking pretty early and you

957
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: don't have to trade. And that's the beauty of the

958
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: NFL is they reward the teams to struggle a little

959
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: bit too. So, and Rudolph is looming. I mean, you

960
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: could live a year with him being your starter or

961
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: the last eight games of this upcoming season or whatever.

962
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, but that's why you also don't kick

963
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberg out the door when you don't have there's

964
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: nothing else. Yeah, right, So he is Matt Williamson. I'm

965
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 1: Dale Lollly. You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers

966
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: Nation Radio. We're gonna take a break. We'll be more

967
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: back with more right after this. He is the Drive

968
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on Home of the

969
00:49:50,719 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale

970
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: Ali here with Matt Williamson and it's time for the

971
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: Fantasy football focus and we'll quite frankly, we didn't focus

972
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: too well. Um, Superol did not go as many of

973
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,479
Speaker 1: us expected. It did not. And you know, I thought

974
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: we had a good, strong lineup and most weeks we

975
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: would have had a good strong lineup. If you look

976
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: at this are are our draft kings. Uh lineup. We

977
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: had Travis Kelsey as our captain becauld. We had to

978
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: do that format this week. That worked out, Okay, Oh

979
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: he was good. Yeah, I mean Kelsey ended up with

980
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: thirty thirty nine point four or five points, which was

981
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 1: almost half of our points. That was the problem because shot. Yeah,

982
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes was not good. Do you think it's safe

983
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: to say that any lineup that had my homes probably

984
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: didn't make money? That probably did not mean if you

985
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: hit on everything else, you probably he had twelve point

986
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: ten points because and we had to spend twelve tho

987
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: dollars on That was the key. Uh, Mike Evans, right,

988
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: Mike Evans did nothing and the he had one catch

989
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: for thirty one yards. I didn't think the Chiefs d

990
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 1: was horrible. Just killed us. Yeah, I mean I'm not

991
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: sure they were the reason they lost, or I mean

992
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: they did. They did. They played the way they normally played.

993
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: The top receiver. Yeah, the offense just didn't know follow

994
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: suit Clyde Edwards, a layer, sixty four rushing yards, two

995
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: catches for twenty three yards. We got ten points seven

996
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: points out of him. I think there's more meat on

997
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: the bone there too. Yeah. I would have dumped it

998
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: to him a little bit more often. And they started

999
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: doing late, but draws and things like that were worse.

1000
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: Two second half they came out and did it. By

1001
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: then the horse horse has already had of the barn. Yeah. Uh.

1002
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 1: And then we had Ronald Jones. Uh, we had six

1003
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: point one points out of him. He had sixty one

1004
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: rushing yards, just missed on a touch right, just missed

1005
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 1: on the touchdown that Ryan suck up. Then as well,

1006
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: we got nine out of him. Apparent we needed to

1007
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: have Booker. He's kicking field goals and right right rightdown

1008
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: then to right or nine. Well, but I think two

1009
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: of those are fifty yards. He would have he would

1010
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: have had like twelve or something like that. Do we

1011
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: have the Chief d two? We did not. We talked

1012
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: about that we didn't have the buck Steve, there was

1013
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: no we didn't have to play defense. We talked about

1014
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 1: going cheap and you know, maybe trying to slide defense

1015
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: in there, so that would have we still wouldn't want money,

1016
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: but because Mahomes just killed us. The winning lineup and

1017
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: there were a bunch of people who actually had this

1018
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: because it was just one game, had Gronk as the captain. Yeah,

1019
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: Gronk had six catches for sixty seven yards and two touchdowns.

1020
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: He had thirty seven point zero five points. So we

1021
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: had the better captain play there with with Kelsey. Right,

1022
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: but it costs us more. Cosses a lot more money

1023
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: because Bronk bucks and has the capst did more to

1024
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,479
Speaker 1: pay for right there, weren't they one point five or whatever?

1025
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: Kelsey as just a flex play was eleven thousand dollars. Uh,

1026
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: he was in the in the lineup. Uh, in the

1027
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: winning lineup he had twenty six point three points. But

1028
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: you'd be better off Gronk is captain, Kelsey is flex

1029
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: than vice versa. I guess I mean had more to spend, Yeah,

1030
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: because I mean we paid We paid sixteen thousand for

1031
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: Kelsey as our captain. Uh, he was eleven thousand just

1032
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: as a flex. Yeah. Tyreek Hill was in the winning

1033
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,959
Speaker 1: lineup at fourteen point eight points, even though he didn't

1034
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: do much, but he got some he got some garbage

1035
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: time late. Um Tom Brady got nineteen point eight four

1036
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: points out of that game. He only three two one yards.

1037
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: It wasn't a huge day from him. He wouldn't have

1038
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: been my m v P no me either. It really

1039
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: would have been Todd Bowles. I know you're not let

1040
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: it give it the way to Yeah, but I didn't know,

1041
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: would you give it the four net or I probably

1042
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: I probably would have leaned towards four net or one

1043
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: of those defensive on guys. There just wasn't a second

1044
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: option that jumped off the screen. I think, said Gronk too,

1045
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, Gronk was for net. To me,

1046
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: I thought really kind of controlled the pace of the

1047
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: game for them a little bit. Uh. Four net speaking

1048
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: of him, was in the lineup in the winning lineup.

1049
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 1: He had forty six receiving yards eighty nine rushing yards

1050
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: on four catches, and also scored a touchdown. It was

1051
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: kind of a backbreaker. It was kind of break so

1052
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 1: he had twenty three and a half points. And then

1053
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown was in the winning pretty good five catches,

1054
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: twenty two yards, a touchdown. Yeah, it sounds like four

1055
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 1: net and maybe have a good chance to come back

1056
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: to Tampa next year. I would imagine they'll take a

1057
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: little less to do it. They both are pretty solid contributors.

1058
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: I think four Nets values a little inflated. He still

1059
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: doesn't look special to me. He made I think he

1060
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: made like three and a half million dollars this year

1061
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: from them. He's gonna want more than that, probably, Yeah,

1062
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: but he isn't. I know a lot of people like

1063
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: Steelers just signed for NET. Well, maybe he preferred Tampa

1064
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh. We don't even know that. And even if

1065
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh even kicked the tires on, he didn't look like

1066
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: that in Jacksonville, by the way, And I still don't

1067
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: think he looks tremendous. He's in a great situation, the

1068
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: second place team, and there were a bunch of people

1069
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: that had this one. Um. They scored a hundred thirty

1070
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: one point eight nine points. The winning score was a

1071
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: hundred thirty four point six nine had four Net as

1072
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,479
Speaker 1: the captain. He had thirty five point to five points

1073
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: as the captain. Of course he was eleven thousand, seven

1074
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: hundred to put in that spot. Yeah, they had Kelsey

1075
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: as the flex. As a flex, Tyreek Hill was a flex,

1076
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: Tom Brady as a flex, Kronk as a flex. He

1077
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: was three thousand dollars just flex. And then the Buccaneers

1078
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: defense a hundred scored eleven points. That's a cheapie to

1079
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: get eleven points out of Yeah. Absolutely, Um, and you

1080
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: see this a lot that the third place lineup had

1081
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: Gronk as the captain. That one they had. The third

1082
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: place lineup actually had Mahomes in there. Real, Yeah, he's

1083
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: it was. But they had Kelsey, they had Brady, they

1084
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 1: got both quarterbacks quarterbacks to help I understand, they had

1085
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: for Net as the as a flex, and they had

1086
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: Bookers a flex. Booker had twelve points. Is a flex. Yeah,

1087
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: it's kind of like so everybody else in that lineup

1088
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: kind of hit. That's actually line of it. That had

1089
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: a hole though, like the first two or solid all

1090
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: the way across the board, which I think you'd have

1091
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: to be with only one game to pick from, you.

1092
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: But that was that we looked at trying to figure

1093
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: out a way to get both quarterbacks in there. He

1094
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: couldn't do it unless you put somebody the cheap flex

1095
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: guy in the captain. Maybe we learned our lesson on

1096
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: that too. Yeah, I don't play this format necessarily all

1097
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 1: the time, and this is why I don't love the format,

1098
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, But maybe going cheap on

1099
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: a captain is how you win. The fourth place team

1100
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: at Brady as their captain, that worked, I guess, but

1101
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 1: he's expensive. He was expensive. He was fifteen thousand to

1102
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: be a captain. But that allowed them. Then they had

1103
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: Kelsey as a flex, Tyreek kills a flex for Net

1104
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: as a flex, Gronk as a flex and the Buccaneers defense,

1105
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: so you could go, you could go cheap with Gronk

1106
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: in the Bucks and you ended up getting h thirty

1107
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: five point seven point to have some coonas to pick

1108
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: the Bucks the before that game started, and Gronk he

1109
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: hadn't done anything in the playoffs. In the playoffs, I

1110
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: actually made some money on prop bets with Gronk because

1111
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 1: you know, Bright was on the injury reports. Gronk with

1112
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: the next few week's rest. I thought Brady would trust him,

1113
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: but I didn't expect him to look as good as

1114
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: he did or scored two touchdowns on you know um.

1115
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: And then finally the fifth place team had four Net

1116
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: as the captain, Kelsey, Brady Edwards Hilaire who was in army. Yeah,

1117
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: ten point seven points, Antonio Brown and then Gronk pretty solid,

1118
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: you see. I mean obviously those guys that that you've

1119
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: paid up to get, even even Tyreek Hill wasn't great

1120
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: and you paid lived with, but you prefer you didn't. Yeah,

1121
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 1: but there wasn't There wasn't a lot of secondary kind

1122
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: of That's what I was about to say. It's like,

1123
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: I bet most Super Bowls are somebody that comes out

1124
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: of nowhere to oh, how did this guy catch a touchdown?

1125
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: Or that men or you know, somebody like that he

1126
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: didn't count on has a huge day that wins you

1127
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: that every lineup would have had a guy in there.

1128
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 1: You know, there wasn't that guy, right, They're kind of

1129
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: predictable where they put where the football went. Yeah, you

1130
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: just needed to find the right mix of those guys

1131
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: that Okay, these eight guys and some more are gonna work,

1132
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: and we just picked the wrong eight guys. We did,

1133
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,439
Speaker 1: we did. We went in on my homes, Yeah, which

1134
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: I probably would do again if they played tomorrow. I'm

1135
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: not real worried about that. I don't know if I

1136
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: would because he's kind of banged up in that game,

1137
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: he was under immense pressure and he said he has

1138
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: he needs surgery on that toe. So that's a pretty

1139
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: serious injury. Yeah, I mean that's that's next for them.

1140
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: But I bet they draft offensive lineman. I would offensive

1141
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: lineman and inside linebackers. Yeah, and they did draft with

1142
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: William Gay last year, and he's a project that he

1143
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: knew it. But you think you're gonna look back at

1144
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: their early picks and be like, maybe we shouldn't have

1145
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: done that. Yeah, I mightn't want him to spend a

1146
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: little bit somewhere else, get some bread and butter pieces,

1147
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: because you have right. I mean, they had a weapon.

1148
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: They had a weapon. They had an assortment of riches

1149
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: at the running back position. They didn't even know Damian

1150
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: Williams lofty at that point. Yeah they still Yeah, and

1151
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: you can get other guys. Yeah. So anyways, that's gonna

1152
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: do it for the fantasy football focus. So we'll probably

1153
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: take a few weeks off from the fantasy football talk here,

1154
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: Um wait till we get a lot start talking more

1155
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: draft as we move forward. But we're gonna take a break.

1156
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lillie. You're listening to

1157
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio, your tunes about

1158
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: drive on Home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

1159
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: We are back on dl ALI here with Matt Williamson

1160
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: and Mett that you did a mock draft over the weekend.

1161
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: The Draft Network. I believe it's for profitaball network, where

1162
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: I keep messing that one up proftball network. Uh, so

1163
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: I thought we'd go through that here real quickly. You

1164
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: had Jacksonville taking Trevor Lawrence, no surprise there, Jets taking

1165
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: Zack Wilson, the quarterback out of b y U. Do

1166
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: you have a preference. I don't yet to need to

1167
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: do more research of fields versus Wilson. It seems like

1168
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: most people think Wilson will go ahead of them. So

1169
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: I was torn there. Yeah, I I don't have a

1170
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: strong I haven't. You know, I haven't gotten into it

1171
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: that greatly because quite frankly, I don't think I mean,

1172
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: I don't think they're not gonna be there at twenty four.

1173
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: So I'm really not focusing on that position right now. Uh.

1174
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: You have Miami taking a Pina swell out of Oregon,

1175
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: and my thoughts were our running our wide receiver is

1176
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: gonna be the new running backs of do we really

1177
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: need to use an early pick on these guys are

1178
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: so many seconds third, and they've been late first too,

1179
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: And a lot of those guys the second and third

1180
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: round picks end up hitting Michael Thomas and Metcalf and

1181
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: on and on and on. And Miami also is another first.

1182
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: If you can get a franchise left tackle, I think

1183
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: they might take that route and just say we'll get it.

1184
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: We'll find a receiver in the second or third round.

1185
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: You can do that. Yeah. Uh. For you have Atlanta

1186
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: taking Justin Fields, I think that's almost a no brainer

1187
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: that I think they're better than the fourth worst team

1188
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: in the league. But if you can get that guy

1189
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: there to sit behind Ryan for a year and just

1190
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: stash him away, and I'm a homes like manner, do it? Yeah? Fields? Uh?

1191
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: You know, maybe he doesn't go as high as Wilson.

1192
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: I think some people maybe feel Wilson's a little more

1193
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: already from what I understand, but Fields his way the

1194
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: far better, more talented, there's a lot to work with

1195
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: right and sit there for a year. He may be

1196
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: a superstar. I think he's from that area too. It's

1197
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: a Georgia guy. Uh, Cincinnati another curveball, you haven't take

1198
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: the Bengals taking tight end Kyle Pitts out of Florida. Yeah,

1199
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: And if you read the write up on it, my

1200
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: logic was, well, soul's there. You run to the podium

1201
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: and we're not doing eight trades, and this maybe a

1202
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: trade down. I've seen some people say, you know, Slater

1203
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: from Northwestern could go that high. That seems a little

1204
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: rich for me for a six fourth just to take

1205
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: an out to play anywhere on your line. He could,

1206
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: and I think it's a great prospect, but I think

1207
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: Pitts is a phenomenal prospect. And my logic was, this

1208
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: is there's free agency to happen between now on the draft,

1209
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: and people forget those things. And I bet the Bengal

1210
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: sign a guy and Jonah Williams comes back, and then

1211
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: the second round you draft a lineman like you don't

1212
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: have to take the fifth pick in the draft. Be alignment.

1213
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I mean, once the sewell goes, there's

1214
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: probably ten guys you'll have graded higher than your next

1215
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: best offensive lineman. That's what I'm thinking, right, Don't you're

1216
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: not taking Slater if you think he's gonna be if

1217
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: he well he can't play tackle, well, then you're not

1218
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: taking a guard at five unless you think he's the

1219
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: next Quentin Nelson exactly as to be a very special player.

1220
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: And in the real world, maybe a trade up the

1221
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: three and take Soul or trade back to eight and

1222
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: take Pitts or Slater or somebody like that. But the

1223
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: way I was doing it, you couldn't. And I think

1224
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: Pits is phenomenal. Yeah. Uh. At six, you have Philadelphia

1225
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: taking Jamara Chase, the wide receiver at the l s U.

1226
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: I think he'll be the first receiver off the board. Um,

1227
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: I think Wentz will be gone. I think hurts. You

1228
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: want to give him all the weapons you possibly can

1229
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: build the nest. At seven, you have Detroit taking Davonte Smith,

1230
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: the wide receiver out of Alabama. I think they stick

1231
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: with Goff for a year. And they really don't. I

1232
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: mean none of the receivers are under contract. Like the

1233
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 1: bad bad I mean they need a lot of stuff

1234
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: bad they do. Yeah, that's another one, almost like our

1235
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: stud conversation. If you draft the quarterback now, but he's

1236
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: not gonna much around him, you know, and you at

1237
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: least have golf as at least a placeholder maybe more.

1238
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: Wait a year. At eight, you have Carolina taking trade

1239
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 1: Lance quarterback in the Yeah. Yeah, they've been actually rumored

1240
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: to be in that veteran quarterback Mark Good as well. Yeah,

1241
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: so they tried to get in on the Stafford deals, right,

1242
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: so they're definitely looking um. At nine, you have Denver

1243
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: taking a cornerback, Caleb far Farley out of Virginia Tech.

1244
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: Really talented guy. There's two corners, I think him and

1245
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: certain that will start to be in this neighborhood. Corners

1246
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: don't last, especially when you're six two and run of

1247
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: four three and you know Farley is gonna go really early.

1248
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: At ten, you have another cornerback being taken by Dallas

1249
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: Patrick certain at the cornerback out of Alabama. I think

1250
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 1: they'd be really happy with that too. I mean that's

1251
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 1: certainly an area of need. At eleven, the Giants take

1252
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: Jalen Wadell. Why did you see ever? Out of Alabama.

1253
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he doesn't go ahead of Smith wentz

1254
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 1: All a sudden and done, you know, like Rugs went

1255
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 1: ahead of Judy and Battle was considered the better prospect

1256
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: when they both were healthy. Yeah, yeah, and he's yeah,

1257
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 1: I think the Giants could use that too. They don't

1258
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: have a big play guy. At twelve, you have San

1259
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: Francisco taking j. C. Horn, a cornerback out of South Carolina.

1260
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: Little early, but they have a big cornerback Kneed. They

1261
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: don't need a lot. Yeah, well for seeing here's a

1262
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: lot of corners and wide receivers early in this draft.

1263
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: In quarterbacks. Yeah. At thirteen, Rashawn Slater goes to the

1264
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: Chargers the offensive tax office I think, coming offensive lineman

1265
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: from Yeah, because he could play really anywhere, they could

1266
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: certainly use them. I do think he'll fall earlier than

1267
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: that they would. I mean that's a home run for them.

1268
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: But you know, if lock drafts are weird, there's no

1269
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: trades and you know, yeah, um. At fourteen, Gregory is

1270
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: so the edge rusher out of Miami goes to Minnesota.

1271
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 1: They need them, they need to add you. They're they're

1272
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 1: really edge dependent and when Hunter was out this year

1273
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: it hurt them bad. At fifteen you have New England

1274
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: taking Mac Jones. I think that Saban Belichick connection is

1275
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: a nice thing to fall back on in a year

1276
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: that you don't know as much about prospects. You know,

1277
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: Bill calls up Nick and says as Mac the guy,

1278
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 1: and Nick says, yes, they do it. Do you think

1279
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 1: that Jones will be somebody that quarterback needy teams might

1280
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 1: want to trade up ahead of Maybe I'm looking here

1281
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: at who's after New England. You got air Zona, you

1282
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: got Las Vegas. Yeah, either one of those teams do Miami, No, Washington,

1283
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 1: could be, would be, could be Chicago. I also think

1284
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: if there's a run, I'm not sure that Mac Jones

1285
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: doesn't go to Carolina at eight. I mean, yeah, I

1286
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 1: didn't think Daniel Jones goes. I could see somebody trading

1287
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: up to nine with Denver and trying to get Denver

1288
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: doesn't have to go that corner you just said they

1289
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 1: you know they were Dallas, you know, to make that move. Hey,

1290
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 1: we need to get a corner here, but we can

1291
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: get one a little bit later if we acquire some

1292
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 1: more picks. Yeah, I think it's very possible. Um. I

1293
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: was gonna say, oh, kind of like you said with Carolina,

1294
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 1: New England may have a guy. Maybe they signed somebody

1295
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: by this point and they're out of the young quarterback market,

1296
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: but I'm not projecting that. I don't know, Um Arizona,

1297
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: you have taken Christian dry Saw, the offensive tackle one

1298
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 1: via Virginia Tech. They're a hard team for me. I

1299
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: just kind of gave him the best guy on the

1300
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: board in that food position. I mean, they could go

1301
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 1: wide out, they could use another pass rusher, There's a

1302
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 1: lot of things they could use. Yeah, they absolutely. Uh.

1303
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: You have uh the Raiders taking Mike A. Parsons, the

1304
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: linebacker at a Penn State. But he falls that far either.

1305
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: He's a pretty special guy. Miami you have taken Kadarius Tony,

1306
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,959
Speaker 1: the wide receiver out of Florida. That was a little

1307
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 1: torn on that one. You know, I was, you know,

1308
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: than taking two wide receivers. No, I had Miami take

1309
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: the tax seul first. Most people had to tack. So

1310
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: my thought was give him some kind of weapon. Tony's

1311
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: like that Versat will do it all. Guy. It doesn't

1312
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: mean you can't take a receiver still in the third round. Besides,

1313
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: you know, just make two his nests better. Washington you

1314
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: have taking Elijah Vera Tucker, the offensive lineman at the USC.

1315
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 1: You think his name's will be floated around Pittsburgh when

1316
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: it gets down to that time. I mean potentially, but

1317
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:48,439
Speaker 1: a lot of people project him more as a guard

1318
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: than guard tackle, which doesn't matter to Washington. They could

1319
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 1: just use one of those guys and who knows a strep.

1320
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: But if you think he's more of a guard than

1321
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,439
Speaker 1: a tackle, then he doesn't fit here in Pittsburgh, agreed.

1322
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: H Chicago, you have taking Tevin Jenkins, the offensive tackle

1323
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: lot of Oklahoma stake. His name will be thrown around

1324
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: and this is the way. You know, offensive lineman aren't

1325
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: sexy picks, but they do end up usually going in

1326
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: the top twenty picks if they're in you know, if

1327
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 1: they've got any kind of pedigree, No, yeah, they're usually.

1328
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: It seems like a pretty good draft to grab a tackle,

1329
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 1: not a center, but a tackle from eighteen to twenty

1330
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: five ish. That's where that's kind of the sweets following

1331
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 1: right Uh, Indianapolis at twenty one, you have taken Qweedy

1332
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 1: pay the edgeet of Michigan. They could use the left tackle.

1333
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 1: I don't know who this is. Assuming this is assuming

1334
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: they don't trade that pick for a quarterback. Who's to say,

1335
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna guess that they have some sort

1336
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: of quarterback at this point, and there wasn't one to

1337
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: take I'm not gonna give him Kyle Trask or something

1338
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:49,679
Speaker 1: like that. So uh, justin Houston replacement air apparent type.

1339
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 1: Twenty two you have Tennessee taking Xavin Collins, the linebacker

1340
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 1: at a Tulsa. They were preferred pay in my opinion,

1341
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: but the Tulsa kid is kind of an off the ball,

1342
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: kind of a stand up three or four outside linebacker type.

1343
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: Rabel has some position versatility they need to get better.

1344
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: He's a good pass rusher, but a true true pass

1345
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: rusher I think would have been better. I didn't think

1346
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 1: one was worthy there. Yeah. Um, the twenty three you

1347
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 1: have the Jets taking Jeremiah Oosu Kamra. I should say, yeah,

1348
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 1: the Notre Dame running hit linebacker. I bet he goes

1349
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 1: a lot earlier linebacker. They have so many other needs.

1350
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 1: I doubt that one comes to fruition. But I just figured,

1351
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: if you're the Jets and you've got Trevor Lawrence, and

1352
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: you've got a bunch of picks, and this guy is

1353
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: better than everybody else on the board, take them. Yeah.

1354
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 1: Now we're up to pick, and it's been a pretty

1355
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 1: good run on offensive lineman. There um, the best guy

1356
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:52,719
Speaker 1: still available, Jalen Mayfield. I think out of Michigan, Alex

1357
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 1: Leatherwood still there didn't have a great senior Bowl. Both

1358
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 1: people have also talked guard with them a little bit,

1359
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah. Uh so you had the Steelers

1360
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 1: going a different direction, and you've got the Steelers taking

1361
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: Naja Harris, the running back out of Alabama, and we'll

1362
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: listen to the first segment. I think he's that guy.

1363
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: I mean, a really developing receiver, five star recruit with

1364
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:15,600
Speaker 1: tons of talent, size, physicality. I mean I really like

1365
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 1: the player. Yeah, I do too. You know, you question

1366
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: the running back in the first round Shore, but this

1367
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:24,600
Speaker 1: is not a great running back draft class, and I

1368
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 1: think he's clearly number one. Yeah. I think there's some guys.

1369
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 1: There's some guys there in that second right, with that

1370
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: second wave of offensive lineman um that are gonna be

1371
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: in rounds two and three. That's rather rather deep. Yeah,

1372
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 1: you know, and there isn't a center to take. There

1373
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 1: wasn't a tackle that was doing cartwheels for and you

1374
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 1: know Austin. I mean I certainly would consider trading down. Yeah. Uh.

1375
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 1: Twenty five, you have Jacksonville taken Christian Barramore, the defensive

1376
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: tackle out of Alabama. That's the first defensive tackle taken.

1377
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: That might not happen that way because those guys usually

1378
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 1: get pushed up the board a little, they do. Yeah,

1379
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 1: and he had a really good National title game. There's

1380
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 1: a lot to work with there. That was another case

1381
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: of just Jacksonville needs a little bit everything. He's too

1382
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: good to pass up. You already grabbed Lawrence. You know,

1383
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: like you've got something there to help both sides the

1384
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: ball over. Yeah. Twenty six you have Cleveland taking Jaylene

1385
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 1: Phillips the edge out of Miami. I don't know if

1386
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: Vernon will be back. I don't think he will. Yeah,

1387
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 1: I didn't know if there was a linebacker really worthy

1388
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 1: of it or a safety. I think that has to

1389
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: be defense. Yeah, Vernon Torres Achilles in the and that

1390
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: week one at least, And he's thirty and he's a

1391
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 1: free agent, so getting it, even if he's just a

1392
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 1: part time guy for passing downs would be helpful for them.

1393
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 1: Seven you have Baltimore taking Joseph Asai uh the edge

1394
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 1: rusher out of Texas. They have no edge rushers on

1395
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 1: the contract, so I mean I was gonna go guard

1396
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 1: or edge rusher. Yeah, and it seemed like the edge

1397
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 1: rusher was a better value, tougher position to find at

1398
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 1: the Saints, take Terrence and Marshall the wide receiver out

1399
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: of l s U. Yeah, I think it'll be Winston

1400
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: and Hill and quarterback will be for another day. Um.

1401
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas is rumored have been wanting out forever and

1402
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 1: they need to find another option next to him, and

1403
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 1: he's from down that neck of the woods. Uh. Twenty nine.

1404
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,719
Speaker 1: The Packers don't help their offense again. You've got taken

1405
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,599
Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell the cornerback at A Georgia. And I thought

1406
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,600
Speaker 1: about it. I almost took Bateman for Minnesota. And I

1407
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: even wrote in the lineup that Aaron Rodgers isn't gonna

1408
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 1: be happy again, and man Kevin King was the problem

1409
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: at corner and finding it a talented dude. Corners. Just

1410
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 1: they go quicker, you'll get a second round receiver that

1411
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 1: is helpful. At thirty, Buffalo takes a zz Ojilary the

1412
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 1: edge rusher at A Georgia. They don't have a real

1413
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: difference maker up front. Jerry Hughes is the closest thing

1414
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 1: and he's getting up in getting up in age. They

1415
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: could use a corner as well. I mean the to

1416
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 1: Georgia guys going back to back, maybe they would have

1417
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: taken the other one if he was still there. I

1418
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 1: think that's a defensive pick though, Yeah, I think I

1419
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: think it's probably what they need to do there at

1420
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: thirty one alright, actually should be thirty the Super Bowl,

1421
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 1: Kansas City taking Jalen a Field, the offensive lineman out

1422
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 1: of Michigan. That seems like a slam dunk for they

1423
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 1: have to guard and then maybe eventual right tackle, but

1424
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: just help the old line. Uh, you know, I think

1425
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: we saw enough last night to say that unless you

1426
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 1: go for another insight backer or something like that, maybe

1427
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: you know, but yeah, I hear you. Uh. And then

1428
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay you have a taking Travis a t N,

1429
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 1: the running back at a Clemson. I didn't have a

1430
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 1: good fit for them. You know, a lot of it's

1431
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 1: who they bring back and who they don't. If if

1432
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 1: Shack Barrett's playing elsewhere, Edge goes to the top of

1433
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 1: the list. If Godwin doesn't come back, maybe receivers and

1434
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 1: something there. I don't love a t N, but he's

1435
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:41,640
Speaker 1: a lot different than the backs they have, assuming for

1436
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 1: Net comes back. He has some receiving skill to win

1437
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 1: now move ye but yeah, that's uh, that's Matts first

1438
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 1: mock draft. We'll be doing actually a lot mock draftings here. Um,

1439
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: we've been doing them already, but for those who don't

1440
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,600
Speaker 1: who aren't aware, last year we started the series on

1441
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 1: Steelers dot Com breaking down different positions. Will be called

1442
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 1: yea the Triple play um videos and we do videos,

1443
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 1: we do audios. Well, we'll play some of those back

1444
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 1: here of course on the network. Yeah, joins us for

1445
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,560
Speaker 1: those two. So, but we're also doing mock drafts this

1446
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 1: year on there, which we didn't do last. There would

1447
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: be a lot more content draft stuff than you guys

1448
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 1: we used to so tune in. Yeah, so it should

1449
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. I'm looking forward to that

1450
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 1: and maybe we should keep track of that when for

1451
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 1: our final mark who's right and who's wrong? All right,

1452
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. I'll think the Pepsi challenge on YouTube.

1453
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, a lot of a lot of draft talk

1454
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 1: today really the first official day of the off season. Yeah,

1455
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,680
Speaker 1: the season is over and now it's a lot of

1456
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: teams have been in this mode, including Pittsburgh. But Simon

1457
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 1: starts talking free agents. I'm sure a lot of people

1458
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 1: out there listening. Don't know the massive list of guys

1459
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 1: as contracts are expired from the other teams. I mean,

1460
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 1: not that the Seals will be huge buyers, but draft

1461
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 1: coverage is going to be huge for this year. Yeah,

1462
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 1: it's gonna be huge. And of course we'll have a

1463
01:14:56,479 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 1: fewer and less uh no combine this year, less information

1464
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: out there. We'll have to rely on the specific information

1465
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 1: coming out of the pro days, which can be a

1466
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 1: little Yeah, and unfortunately we won't have our guests from

1467
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 1: the combine. We've had some really good shows with the

1468
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 1: common we have. Hopefully we're able to get to get

1469
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: some guests on the show here. I'm gonna try to

1470
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 1: start working on that. We're also gonna be changing the

1471
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: format of the show a little bit here Wednesday. Starting Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: we'll go to a three twenty seven minutes segments um

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01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,600
Speaker 1: that can be broken down into individual podcasts. So so

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01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 1: the Drive will now be three podcasts a day instead

1475
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 1: of one long one. You don't have to listen to

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01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 1: uh the full two hours all at one time. You

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01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 1: can break that down. They're a little more digestible. Cool. Yeah,

1478
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 1: So we'll probably still do some mock drafts in that Yeah,

1479
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 1: lots of mock drafts. That's that's I'm hoping we can

1480
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: get to a mini camp, you know, those type of

1481
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 1: things would be. I know the Combine is not there,

1482
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 1: but the next things up on the list broadcasts the

1483
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 1: draft live that and we need to take the show

1484
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: on the road and go to like Ohio States Pro Day.

1485
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,679
Speaker 1: You and I talked about going back to at Johnstound,

1486
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 1: our old stomping ground. It's not a real hot bed

1487
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 1: for football, but we get still fun. They're not really

1488
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 1: but yeah, we will be on a college campus in

1489
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:14,799
Speaker 1: the spring while teams are doing their proteins our watering holes. Anyways,

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01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: let's take a break. He is Matt Williams and I'm

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01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 1: Dale Lally. You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers

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01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 1: Nation Radio. We'll be back to finish up the show

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01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 1: right after this. Your tunes about Drive on your home

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01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:54,679
Speaker 1: of the Black and Goals Steelers Nation Radio. Matt Williamson

1495
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 1: and Matt the Steelers announcing the hirings officially of three

1496
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 1: new assistant coaches. That would be a quarterbacks coach Mike Sullivan,

1497
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 1: h assistant offensive line coach Chris Morgan, and met Tom

1498
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 1: show as quality control coach. Um getting the question a lot,

1499
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: what does a quality control coach do? I said, I

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01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:16,839
Speaker 1: to help you with that. A little bit of everything,

1501
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,679
Speaker 1: A little bit everything. I mean at the college level,

1502
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 1: those are g as basically. I mean, that's that's what

1503
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: I did in the recruiting world back in the day,

1504
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 1: and it pitch. I'm sure it's different now. We had

1505
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 1: a recruiting g A, a defensive g A, and an

1506
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 1: offensive g A. We all made twelve grand a year

1507
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 1: and worked every minute every day. This is the NFL

1508
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 1: version where you can actually support your family and it's

1509
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: a good job. But it's a low guy on the

1510
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 1: tote pole. You know. They do a lot of tape,

1511
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 1: breakdown a lot of stuff, uh in advance. You know

1512
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 1: back in the day. I know things changed dramatically, But

1513
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 1: like those guys on even on Saturday would wait around

1514
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 1: to like one in the morning until a fed Ex

1515
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 1: delivery of the tapes from the upcoming opponents would show

1516
01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 1: up so they could break them down and spend all

1517
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 1: night doing it. So when the coaches rolled in on

1518
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 1: Sunday after a game, they had all kinds of stuff

1519
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 1: to break down and look at, Like all the little

1520
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 1: things behind the scenes to make the coaches life easier. Yeah.

1521
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's the stepping stone job. It's really

1522
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 1: a stepping stone job. Uh. Morgan comes to the Steelers

1523
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: from the Atlanta Falcons. He'd been their offensive line coach,

1524
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 1: belief since two thousand and fourteen or fifteen whenever it was. Uh,

1525
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 1: so he's uh, he is, well, he was the head

1526
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 1: office guy. Yeah, so overqualified for the job. Yeah. So

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01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 1: he got two it's a good line in there too,

1528
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 1: Jack and Matthews and two strong voices in the room.

1529
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 1: Now with Clemen and Morgan and then Sullivan. Um was

1530
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 1: the was the quarterbacks coach, an offensive coordinator with the

1531
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 1: with the Giants when they won Super Bowls and so

1532
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 1: yeah with Eli. Uh. Of course Morgan also has some

1533
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 1: Super Bowl experiences well because he was an assistant offensive

1534
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 1: line coach, uh with Seattle when Seattle want a Super Bowl.

1535
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 1: Was also took you know there when the Falcons went

1536
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:04,719
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. So there's some there's some pedigree

1537
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 1: there with these guys, right. Uh, that in itself has

1538
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 1: a lot of value to me. I mean, you've been

1539
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 1: around winners that go to the final game of the year,

1540
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 1: win it in one case, you have a pretty good

1541
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 1: understanding of how things gel with those teams. Uh. That

1542
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 1: Atlanta team was that Shanahan offense that was really uh

1543
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: exceptional really and I hope to see more of those ideas.

1544
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 1: Play action play actually action. Um, so good again. Assistant

1545
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 1: coach hirings and firings and whatnot are a hard thing

1546
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 1: for us to comment, especially for you this year not

1547
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 1: being on the team as much as usual, But you

1548
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 1: gotta trust them. I mean, we're kind of looking at

1549
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 1: resumes and going from there, but we'll see. Yeah, Um,

1550
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 1: I was doing my I got my my live cues today,

1551
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 1: I live questions today and go through some of the

1552
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 1: questions here that I've gotten, um, And one of the

1553
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 1: questions is, uh, last week you seemed insistent that the

1554
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 1: team will not go with the defensive player in the

1555
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 1: first round. If there is a positioner player on defense though,

1556
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:04,679
Speaker 1: where you can see them pulling the trigger if something

1557
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 1: great fell to them. I think a study inside linebacker,

1558
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 1: cornerback dropping in the would they consider that consider? I mean,

1559
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 1: what's first of all, what's stud like if it's the

1560
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 1: dude from Notre Dame that doesn't belong and it shouldn't

1561
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 1: have lasted or if Michael Parsons is there or something

1562
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 1: that's I don't see it. I don't see a cornerback

1563
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 1: a quote unquote stud cornerback falling. That does not happen, right,

1564
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:31,600
Speaker 1: It doesn't happen first unless he's you know, as a

1565
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 1: d hy, you know, two days before the there's some issues,

1566
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 1: there's something or something like that. I can't see corner

1567
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 1: being the call no matter what. First of all, at

1568
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: your point, they get drafted higher than they deserve, if

1569
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 1: anything not lower linebackers could be the opposite, and we thought.

1570
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: We opened the show saying we've seen a couple of

1571
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 1: mocks with linebackers in the first round, and I kind

1572
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 1: of understand it. I still think it's a long shot,

1573
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 1: though they've done so many years in a row with

1574
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 1: their top pick being on defense, and considering the state

1575
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 1: of their quarterback now and the following years, I think

1576
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 1: you gotta build the offensive nest. Yeah, I think so

1577
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: as well. Um, that kind of leads me into my

1578
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 1: my next question here is that Hi Dale, This from

1579
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:17,639
Speaker 1: Louis G. Seven. Hi Dale, you mentioned the Steelers will

1580
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,560
Speaker 1: potentially have more draft capital in the draft. Thanks the

1581
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 1: compensatory picks and it's a long ways off, but can

1582
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 1: you shed light on potential quarterbacks the Steelers can go

1583
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 1: after in next year's draft? I can, I can, I

1584
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: could not, But I did look up some of the

1585
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,879
Speaker 1: top names that would be Lawrence from what I understand,

1586
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:38,679
Speaker 1: that would be Jaden Davis from Arizona State, Keton Slova's

1587
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 1: from USC, Sam Howell from North Carolina I've actually seen

1588
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 1: him play with, and Spencer Rattler from Oklahoma. And then

1589
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's got a guy too and I don't know his

1590
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 1: name off the top of my head. Um the guys

1591
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 1: that emerge, yeah, nobody who Joe Burrow was to know

1592
01:21:55,680 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: three years ago. Absolutely, so I don't think they're a stud.

1593
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 1: But I also don't think the Steelers will pick first

1594
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 1: overall anyway. So if there's five or six names being

1595
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 1: thrown around in that first round mix, cool, two of

1596
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 1: those guys will not be first rounders and two more

1597
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 1: will that we don't know. But I don't have a

1598
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: great feel of is this a great quarterback class or not.

1599
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody even played a full season this Year's

1600
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 1: a lot of teams played six, eight games something like that.

1601
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 1: It's tough to true sophomores to you know what kind

1602
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 1: of tape and you played three games or something like right, Yeah,

1603
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:35,679
Speaker 1: it's tough, guys. And again, guys won't merge. Another question

1604
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 1: or asked me, I think we'll know more about next

1605
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 1: year's classes this, no doubt about that. Another question or

1606
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: asked me, Um, if I all things considered, Um, if

1607
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:55,759
Speaker 1: I'm in charge of resigning Steelers, knowing what the again,

1608
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 1: I'm I'm working within the constraints of the salary, just

1609
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: making up salaries of blue. Who do I work to

1610
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: resign with this team? And my answers were Banner, Lulu,

1611
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 1: and Sutton. Yeah, I think that's a really strong answer.

1612
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 1: We talked about a little here. Um, who would be fourth?

1613
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 1: I guess is my question to you. That's a tough,

1614
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 1: tough call on that. I mean maybe, I mean I

1615
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 1: would I don't know, Um, I would explore, Uh, you know,

1616
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 1: can you bring Hilton back? That would be That would

1617
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 1: be great, That would be great. I don't know that

1618
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 1: that's possible. You're not gonna be able to afford ju Ju.

1619
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be able to afford Bud, Right, I mean,

1620
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 1: all things being equal, I'm I'm resigning Bud, That's right, right.

1621
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 1: I mean, if I had the money and all those things,

1622
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 1: he's the most valuable to me. I mean, really, it

1623
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 1: would be those three and then probably wait and see

1624
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 1: if danger Field or Berry or Connor or someone like that.

1625
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 1: These guys will be my my priorities here because I

1626
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 1: think I can get them a I think I can

1627
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: get Banner in a lulu reasonable and reasonable deals. Can't

1628
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 1: see them demanding a lot um. And Sutton to me,

1629
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 1: because he plays both inside and out, gives you more

1630
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 1: flexibility than Hilton than Hilton. Is he younger? Uh, They're

1631
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 1: about the same year young and that's not a big

1632
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 1: deal obviously. I also think he has less wear and

1633
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 1: tear in his body. And I did say that beause

1634
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 1: Hilton's little. He throws his body around and behind the

1635
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage a lot. I think Sutton is more valuable.

1636
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: I think he's an ascending player, not that Hilton isn't.

1637
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:28,639
Speaker 1: The versatility is great. If Hayden slips, I can put

1638
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 1: Sutton out there, you know. Those type of things gives

1639
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 1: me the advantage too of when the fifth round rules around,

1640
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 1: I can take any type of corner I could take

1641
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 1: to the smaller slot. I could take an outside guy,

1642
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 1: preferably a slot, but it doesn't have to be you know,

1643
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 1: so he's a valuable guy. Yeah, he's one. I think

1644
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,679
Speaker 1: it's gonna get money though. If it's not here, he's

1645
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 1: not gonna just you know, take a cheap deal. Yeah.

1646
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 1: I mean it depends on what else is available in

1647
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 1: the cornerback market. How how much do people like that

1648
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 1: rookie cornerback market. Yeah, absolutely, you know if if if

1649
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 1: you're sitting there, you got Okay, we've we've got a

1650
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 1: need here, but we're picking twelve and we think we

1651
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 1: can get Yeah, we can get one of these guys,

1652
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 1: get him on a rookie deal, and we obviously he's

1653
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, if you think he's going in the first round,

1654
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 1: you think he's probably better than It's one of those

1655
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 1: positions though that you can never have too many. You'd

1656
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 1: love that four and that's hard to get. Uh. This

1657
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 1: one comes uh and it kind of plays into, uh,

1658
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 1: the the discussion we had in terms of the Super

1659
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 1: Bowl stuff. It's is Devin White had a breakout postseason. Obviously,

1660
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 1: Devon Bush got hurt early in the second year and

1661
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 1: didn't have the same opportunity. What are the chances he

1662
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 1: elevates his games to Whites level once healthy. Well, I mean,

1663
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 1: I think that that is not a position that comes

1664
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 1: in and recognize his plays and deal with play action

1665
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 1: and things like that immediately, And it takes a little

1666
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 1: more time than you think because it's a really reactionary position.

1667
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 1: I also don't think he's quite as gifted as White.

1668
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I know they both ran similar forties, but

1669
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 1: he's got he's getting more eyes, he's you know, yeah,

1670
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 1: and he's got a lot of experience already as well.

1671
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,679
Speaker 1: I think his recognition stuff was really showing up before

1672
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 1: his injury. I thought he already took a step forward.

1673
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 1: Breakout might have been a little strong, but he still

1674
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 1: makes mistakes. Says yeah, all right, let's phrase it differently.

1675
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 1: What percent chance is he a pro bowler next year?

1676
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 1: Which one? Bush? Bush? You know, I think he was.

1677
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 1: I don't think that's far fetched, No, because when you

1678
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 1: look at what he was doing. First of all, the

1679
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,679
Speaker 1: four and a half games that they have, the first

1680
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:38,640
Speaker 1: five games of the season they had Devin Bush. He

1681
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 1: played four and a half of those games. They were

1682
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:43,680
Speaker 1: allowing sixty six yards rushing per game and shutting down

1683
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 1: receiving backs and doing all that stuff. After that, they

1684
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 1: allowed about a hundred nineteen yards rushing per game. I

1685
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 1: don't think it's an acident. It's not an accident. The

1686
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 1: only thing that went wrong between and then. But yeah,

1687
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 1: but he's kind of a bit of an eracer for you,

1688
01:26:56,960 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 1: and that you know he had in his first the

1689
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:03,759
Speaker 1: first year as a rookie, he had uh, I believe

1690
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:08,560
Speaker 1: four four pass breakups. Okay, we already had three in

1691
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 1: the first four and a half games. I mean he

1692
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 1: was already you saw some of that coming along. I

1693
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 1: know everybody said, what he gave up a touchdown to

1694
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 1: know a fan and the first of all, that wasn't

1695
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 1: his guy. Let's understand that, you know, he he had

1696
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 1: to do, he had a job to do. He had

1697
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 1: the middle zone. Fan caught the ball over on the

1698
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 1: left sidelines. Just because he crossed in front of Bush's

1699
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 1: face does not mean that was Bush's guy. That was

1700
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 1: somebody else blowing that coverage. And still people are gonna

1701
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 1: allow touchdowns. There's a lot of touchdown scoring things year.

1702
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you're a disadvantage. Um, I do think I've

1703
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 1: gotten a lot of that though, boy, I wish our

1704
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 1: guy was as good as Devin White. Well, a lot

1705
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 1: of it's because it's almost the fifth overall guy. The

1706
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 1: other one was the tenth. So that yeah, and you

1707
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 1: watched every playoff game every snap because there wasn't sixteen

1708
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 1: games on on Sunday. And Bush was on that path too,

1709
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 1: and it just got robbed. I don't think it's I

1710
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 1: don't means should that be a discredit to Bush that

1711
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 1: White's playing well? Right? And I get it just because

1712
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 1: they were both drafted in this in this you know,

1713
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 1: in the first round, they have the same first name,

1714
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,680
Speaker 1: you know, even when you looked at it in the

1715
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 1: lead up to that draft. I mean Devon White ran

1716
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 1: a fourth four or four two and Devon Bush ran

1717
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:25,680
Speaker 1: a four four four three. I mean everything was the

1718
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 1: same athletically there, and some people liked one more than

1719
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 1: the other. And that's fine, Um, that's gonna happen. But

1720
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:34,560
Speaker 1: you know, I think that, you know, in terms of

1721
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 1: the overall career path, there's a lot to like with

1722
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 1: both of those guys. They both could go down linked

1723
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 1: for a long time and this could be we could

1724
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 1: be having this conversation ten years from now, and it's

1725
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 1: the palamal who had read your conversation draft like the

1726
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 1: same first name. And contrary to popular belief, and we

1727
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 1: didn't see this yesterday, Devin White still makes a lot

1728
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 1: of mistakes. To me. He also happens to play with

1729
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 1: Lavante David. If you put Devon Bush next to Lavonte

1730
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 1: David Devon Bush, we would look very, very good, very

1731
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 1: as opposed to Robert Spillane. Yes, that takes us back

1732
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 1: to again. I think you know the things that we

1733
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 1: learned in that Super Boys, so we talked about it

1734
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 1: earlier in the show that you know. I I don't

1735
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 1: know that you can be athletic enough in the middle

1736
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 1: of the field. In today's NFL second level speed is

1737
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 1: huge and defensive coordinators need it now. It used to

1738
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 1: be used to be something you coveted and you wanted it,

1739
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 1: and now it's like I need it. Yeah, I can't

1740
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 1: get by without it. And that doesn't mean there's a point.

1741
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:33,839
Speaker 1: I mean there's also people think just because you're an athlete,

1742
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 1: you're really good in coverage. You're not, you know, but

1743
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 1: you can make up for mistakes. And even like Devin White,

1744
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:41,799
Speaker 1: I mean he gets exposed in coverage a fair amount

1745
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 1: now and we'll bite on some things, but you also

1746
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 1: make up for like shas here is a perfect example.

1747
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 1: You make up for some errors because you get there

1748
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 1: faster than everybody else earlier in your career. It's that's

1749
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 1: how you get by earlier in your career. And then

1750
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 1: as you get into years four or five something in

1751
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 1: that range, now all of a sudden, you have a

1752
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 1: better understanding what's going on around you out there. I mean,

1753
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 1: think about that. If the Steelers, if the Steelers had

1754
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 1: Chase here in Bush, now, maybe I don't know if

1755
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:06,680
Speaker 1: they take them. Maybe they maybe don't trade up to

1756
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 1: get Bush at that point, but maybe they do. You

1757
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 1: know what, what if you know that that opportunity presents

1758
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 1: itself and you have two of those guys now, no, yeah,

1759
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:17,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's certainly a nice situation, without question,

1760
01:30:17,160 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 1: and he has kind of how you open the show

1761
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,479
Speaker 1: was watch David and White, just two of them flying

1762
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 1: around the ball, getting a lot of hats to the ball,

1763
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 1: and you're gonna cause fumbles, You're gonna you know, there's

1764
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 1: a lot of good things are going to happen. And

1765
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 1: I think we'll see more of that from the Steelers

1766
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:31,679
Speaker 1: next year. I think it might be something that catches

1767
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:33,640
Speaker 1: on around the league. I mean, they just aren't. I

1768
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 1: can't think of another team that has that. I can't

1769
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:38,840
Speaker 1: think of it as too like that. You like, Roquan

1770
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 1: Smith's coming on Leonard has been really good. There was

1771
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:45,040
Speaker 1: a stretch maybe Dallas to a certain degree Vanderesh and

1772
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith, but they can't stay in the field together.

1773
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 1: They can't stay in the field. And I would take

1774
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 1: Bush over both those guys. Yeah, I know most people wouldn't,

1775
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:53,679
Speaker 1: but I don't have a lot of trust in those two.

1776
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 1: But no, there's there's a lot of teams that are

1777
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 1: slow there. And that's why all these receivers and tight

1778
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 1: ends are you know, racking up a lot of fantasy

1779
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 1: points and production and you know, yeah, so it's it's

1780
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:06,719
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting, and you know, you see different teams.

1781
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 1: Are teams addressing that differently in terms of well, I

1782
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 1: can go get uh, you know, a big safety and

1783
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 1: put them in that spot and you know, and that's fine,

1784
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 1: but does make you susceptible in the run. That's that's

1785
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 1: why those guys are so valuable, because you know, they're

1786
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:23,760
Speaker 1: two pound guys that can run, that can run and

1787
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 1: are smart and don't ever come off the field and

1788
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 1: aren't situations. And the guys that that you know ten

1789
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 1: years ago used to be running backs, you know what

1790
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 1: I mean? I mean? But you know, you look at

1791
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 1: the running backs now coming into the league, and they're

1792
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 1: all two hundred and five pounds, you know. Now there's

1793
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 1: those two d and thirty pound guys are they're just

1794
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 1: playing lineback. They're playing linebacker now, running the same way

1795
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 1: and as athletic can change the direction and playing with level,

1796
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:49,639
Speaker 1: you have a longer career, right right, right, Yeah, that's

1797
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 1: a good point, and you could quite as beat up

1798
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 1: um where we go with that. But there there are

1799
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 1: a good young group in the league. Rokwan Smiths another one.

1800
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 1: I mean, there's some there's some guys Waring, you know. Yeah,

1801
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 1: Frem Warner was the third round pick. You can get

1802
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:05,599
Speaker 1: those guys, yeah, and take a little bit more developed.

1803
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:08,720
Speaker 1: I mean Leonard was too. Yeah, you don't have to

1804
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 1: be in the top ten, but sometimes you got trade

1805
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 1: up to get them to like yeah, I'm not depends

1806
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 1: on the draft. And in that particular year, the Steelers

1807
01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:18,720
Speaker 1: had a need they could. They ran John Bostick out there.

1808
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 1: The previous year and that did not work. I mean

1809
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 1: they had a gaping hole yea that they had to fill, right,

1810
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 1: So it's filling nicely, I think. I mean, I'm I

1811
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 1: have high hopes for Bush next year. Yeah, I'm gonna

1812
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 1: be interested to see him get back on the football field.

1813
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 1: And again a c L injuries aren't what they used

1814
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 1: to be. M Yeah, it takes two years to come

1815
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 1: back from then not so much anymore achilles or right,

1816
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 1: and it was pretty early in the year. Yeah, So

1817
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: but that's gonna do it for our show today, so

1818
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 1: former partner Matt Williamson, uh for Jacob here on site. UM,

1819
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:51,160
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1820
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:54,120
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1822
01:32:57,080 --> 01:33:00,280
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Speaker 1: there's plenty of other good programming here on Steelers Nation Radio,

1824
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 1: different interviews, different things of that nature. You also here

1825
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:10,400
Speaker 1: are our Triple Takes with Mike Pursuda on the network

1826
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 1: as well. So yeah, a lots of good stuff. There

1827
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:15,560
Speaker 1: are lots of good back and forth, but h that

1828
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 1: is going to do it. For this show today, So

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Speaker 1: I am Dale, Lolly. We thank you for listening to

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Speaker 1: this edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio