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Speaker 2: Welcome to Games with names. I'm Julian Edelman. They're Jack

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Speaker 2: and Kyler, and we are on a mission to find

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Speaker 2: the greatest game of all time. On today's episode, we

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Speaker 2: Season sixers versus Celtics with West Virginia legend and New

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Speaker 2: and we get into talking Joe's first game as an

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Speaker 1: Just don't make this about your first game. Make this

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Speaker 3: This is the first time, I mean since so I

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Speaker 2: Wow, what makes Boston such a great sports town?

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Speaker 4: It's just games.

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Speaker 3: The names dues and dudes.

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Speaker 2: One night only, one night only, one show, a lot

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Speaker 4: Promo code nuthouse n U T H O U s E.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be awesome. We learned a lot from last year.

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Speaker 4: I like to call it nuthhousesnuthus.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Let's get back to Joe Missoula October eighteen,

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Speaker 3: Two Hopefield campaigns can go off on the parquet.

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Speaker 2: The Missoula era is underway ones all right.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm hoping my words meant something. Maybe not work,

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Speaker 2: Coach didn't wandn't work. It didn't work, So I got

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Speaker 3: And so that's kind of how we look at it.

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. Now you have such a you

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Speaker 3: I suck with a lot of things, you know, I

439
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Speaker 3: mean we all do. Yeah.

440
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Speaker 2: Is there anything that you pulled from growing up with

441
00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,240
Speaker 2: a dad as a head coach? Because my dad was

442
00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,399
Speaker 2: a coach, And there's shit I pulled on how I

443
00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 2: would I've never coached, but you know, when you get

444
00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,200
Speaker 2: to become an older player in a locker room, there's

445
00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 2: kind of that way to communicate with younger guys that

446
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 2: comes off as like a coach. Is there anything you

447
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:46,920
Speaker 2: pulled from your pops?

448
00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,040
Speaker 1: I mean so much most of it's illegal now, but

449
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,199
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of stuff that ye into it.

450
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,800
Speaker 1: I think he just wasn't afraid to be himself. He

451
00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:58,800
Speaker 1: wasn't afraid to be himself. He wasn't afraid to win

452
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 1: the moment however he thought necessary to win.

453
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 3: To win that moment, you know, whether.

454
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Speaker 1: It was basketball, soccer, track like, he was always going

455
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 1: to do whatever it took to get the most out

456
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Speaker 1: of that guy in that moment. And that's something that

457
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 1: I could always get better at. I think that's you know,

458
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,199
Speaker 1: you're always being challenged of like how could you be

459
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 1: better in this moment? And he was just relentless, Like

460
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,160
Speaker 1: he was relentless in his mentality, like relentless in his mindset,

461
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 1: relentless and his approach towards the fundamentals on and off

462
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Speaker 1: the course. I think those are the two biggest things.

463
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Speaker 2: Now, you grew up in Providence, you grew up a

464
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:30,400
Speaker 2: massive Celtics fan.

465
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a Red Sox fan before Celtic.

466
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Speaker 2: So let's hear your sports hierarchy of what your fandom was.

467
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,400
Speaker 1: Well, so my uncle Mike, credit to him. He got

468
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Speaker 1: me into like the history and a study of sports.

469
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Speaker 1: So he was a huge forty nine Ers fan, huge Mike,

470
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 1: and he collected all these he collected. He just collected

471
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Speaker 1: memorabilia and stuff. And so it started with like these pencils.

472
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember these old pencils of

473
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,120
Speaker 1: like all the different NFL teams. So we had one

474
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Speaker 1: of every team, but I wasn't allowed to use the

475
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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers one.

476
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 2: And then uh, that was his. That was his team.

477
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Speaker 1: And then the Patriots were coming to UH training camp

478
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,199
Speaker 1: at Bryant College, so my dad went, yeah, and so

479
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Speaker 1: he would take me to Bryant College for training camp

480
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 1: all the time, and so I got these pictures with

481
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 1: like a young Adam Vnit Terry.

482
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 2: Uh.

483
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 1: Because you had to walk that dirt road, you know,

484
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Speaker 1: from the dorms and anything. So we would stand on

485
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Speaker 1: that dirt dirt road. Had had a ball signed by

486
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 1: Vinitarry had a ball signed by that whole team. I

487
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 1: don't remember that. So it started with like the Patriots

488
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 1: in that, so.

489
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Speaker 2: You're your Patriots is number one.

490
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Speaker 1: It's not hierarchy as much of it's like this is

491
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Speaker 1: how it went okay time and then it went red

492
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Speaker 1: Sox because the All Star Game came to Fenway in

493
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Speaker 1: ninety nine and you.

494
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Speaker 2: Went and I went, So we went, so that what

495
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Speaker 2: what's the what year is that? That's is? That's maguire.

496
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Speaker 4: I really don't in the nineties.

497
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Speaker 1: That was I think Ken Griffy had I really don't

498
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Speaker 1: remember much of it, but I think Griffy had a

499
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Speaker 1: huge game that All Star Game.

500
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Speaker 3: So here's the story.

501
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Speaker 1: So we went up just for the festivities, like we

502
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Speaker 1: didn't have tickets to the game, and so we're standing

503
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Speaker 1: around Funway going through all this stuff and then we

504
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:02,959
Speaker 1: get into a taxi to go somewhere and we end

505
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 1: up we're in a taxi with Ray Knight.

506
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Speaker 2: Uh you know who scored.

507
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 3: I think he scored the winning run in the eight

508
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 3: series to beat the Red Sox.

509
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 2: So we were in there randomly randomly, Hey, let me

510
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,119
Speaker 2: get in taxi. Yeah, let's get one. Yeah you do.

511
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 1: And then like some random person comes up to us

512
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Speaker 1: and was like, hey, I got one extra ticket to

513
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Speaker 1: the game, and that's you couldn't You couldn't do this now.

514
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,959
Speaker 1: So I'm eleven ten at the time, and We're an

515
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Speaker 1: hour ten minutes away from home and this stranger comes

516
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Speaker 1: up and offers us one ticket, and my uncle's like,

517
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Speaker 1: you gotta go. So he sends me into the All

518
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Speaker 1: Star Game.

519
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 2: How old are you?

520
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Speaker 3: I'm ten?

521
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 2: Oh, my sololo solo.

522
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, sends me into the All Star Game.

523
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Speaker 2: That's a cool uncle.

524
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 3: By myself, and he's like, hey, like, I'll meet you

525
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 3: right here.

526
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Speaker 1: I think he called my dad and my dad drove down,

527
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: which I don't know what the hell he was going

528
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: to do, like uh, And so I just sat in

529
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Speaker 1: the sat next to these two people in the stands

530
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Speaker 1: by myself watched the ninety nine All Star Game and

531
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Speaker 1: I had this book that in the back of the

532
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 1: book taught you how to throw all the pitches. And

533
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Speaker 1: that's why I would I would like I was in

534
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: the baseball for a little while, so I would like

535
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: work on that. And then then was the Celtics because

536
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: when they drafted uh, you know, Joe Forte was one

537
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: of my favorite players to watch North Carolina and then

538
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: so when they drafted Joe Forte, and I would go

539
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: to Red Our Back Camp, you know, and so for

540
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Speaker 1: like three four years every summer I would spend a

541
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Speaker 1: week at Red Hour Back Camp, staying the dorms at

542
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Speaker 1: Brandeis Read Coach Iback would talk to the team and so,

543
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Speaker 1: you know, I just fell in love with like fell

544
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Speaker 1: in love with right Our Back first, and then fell

545
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Speaker 1: in love with the Celtics, and so that's kind of

546
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Speaker 1: the trajectory. And then the Bruins I just like to

547
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Speaker 1: be and so they're just fourth by default. But like

548
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: that's kind of the timeline of like how uh, you know,

549
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: Boston sports kind of came into my life.

550
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Speaker 2: Wow, what about some of the spots, uh Boston sports heroes,

551
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 2: did you like?

552
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Speaker 1: I mean, vine Terry was one then to start because

553
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 1: he signed he signed the ball, and then I was

554
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 1: watching the first Super Bowl at my grandmother's house and

555
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: he hit it was that Panthers was the first one.

556
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 2: Turf.

557
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, So he hit the game winner, I think on

558
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 3: that one.

559
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: And that was also the year he hit the snow one.

560
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: Yes and the Raiders and so that and then the

561
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: Panthers one was another game winner that he had.

562
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so he's up there, you like clutch guys.

563
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

564
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: And then I had this plaque of Celtic players of

565
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: all the greats of the eighties and nineties, and for

566
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: whatever reason, I like Robert Parrish.

567
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 3: I like the nickname the Chief. So like I just.

568
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: Liked the Chief. That the Chief, you know, I mean

569
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: that was just a cool nickname to have. So from

570
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: a childhood you remembers that. And then you know, you

571
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Speaker 1: got those years in college of when it was like

572
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: Pedro and Kurt Shilling and and like that whole.

573
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 2: Crew Bloody Saw Big Pot was just a huge just

574
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 2: motherfucking on broad teeth.

575
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

576
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 3: And then and then but like and then Garnett in

577
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 3: that era, you know, so like.

578
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, just you grew up in a great time,

579
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: grew in a great time, great time, and now I

580
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 1: get to Uh, it's it's it's like a full circle

581
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: because the great time that I grew up on as

582
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: a kid. For whoever long I'm here, I've been in

583
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: with this opportunity, ownership, responsibility to like do what was

584
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 1: done when I was a kid, you know. And so

585
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: that's where like happily Miserable comes into place of like

586
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: I think when you have responsibility, you have to take

587
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: on the other side of responsibility, which is like the

588
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: weight that that carries, like that's never going to go away.

589
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: And so like it's almost like I'm using everything from

590
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: my childhood to spure this opportunity that you know, we

591
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,959
Speaker 1: have as an organization to like bring that back. It's

592
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: kind of cool, but it's it's also it's it's tough,

593
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: which is that's what you want.

594
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Speaker 2: It is tough, you know, and and you know you

595
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 2: have you feel like you have this responsibility because of

596
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: what you experience as a kid being part of this community.

597
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 2: Now you have relationships with other coaches. You talk with

598
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 2: Rabes at all, talk.

599
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: With uh, you know, coach Mayo was great, Rabes has

600
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: been great, just his perspective.

601
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, Alex Core is awesome.

602
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 1: You know, he's been around, he's seen and I haven't

603
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: tapped into the Bruins or the Revolution like I need to.

604
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: But I think it's a fraternity that you have to have,

605
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: right because Coach Belichick's been great, like especially my first year,

606
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: he was great.

607
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 3: Right.

608
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: But I think it came, didn't You came to our facility.

609
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: I remember seeing it there, and he came to a

610
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: couple of games and then you know, we talked a

611
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: lot about just the perspective and how it goes about things.

612
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: But like, to me, it's just a fraternity that you

613
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 1: have because we're all going after the same thing and

614
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: we're all carrying, you know, the responsibility and the weight

615
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 1: of bringing what Boston, what the city deserves and what

616
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: and there. So yeah, I think I think it's a

617
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: huge connection to have that.

618
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: It's so crazy that like this is like the perfect

619
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Speaker 2: pro sport city. It is has everything everything, Like it's

620
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: not a college area. I mean, we have hell of

621
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: good colleges, but it ain't college sport area. It's it's

622
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: not fall spring, summer. It's football season, baseball season, basketball season,

623
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Speaker 2: hockey season season. That's the only way they live out here.

624
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: It's crazy. You know, I grew up in the Bay

625
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 2: Area and we had the Niners, we had the Giants.

626
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 2: The Sharks just came out, but it wasn't the same.

627
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 2: They didn't have four You know, well.

628
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: People, I think I think here in Boston, there's no

629
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: distractions like it. You know, each sport is is like

630
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: a foundation of like a family. Like there's there's nothing.

631
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: I get goosebumps when I see people wearing Celtic gear

632
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: and they don't see me. I get goosebumps because it's like,

633
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: I know they're wearing that with like a sense of pride,

634
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: and there's a story behind why they're a Celtic fan.

635
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: There's a story behind it, like it's almost passed down

636
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: from their dad or you know, their grandfather or like

637
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: you know, so like I that gives me like the

638
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: greatest thrill and in a sense of chills when I

639
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: see that, you know, yeah.

640
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 2: Now what's now? What's young coach Missoula's favorite place on

641
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 2: Federal Hill?

642
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 3: Panavino?

643
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 2: Panavino.

644
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 3: I think I worked there for like two days.

645
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 2: What happened?

646
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 1: Not a big manual labor guy, and so I was like,

647
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not doing that.

648
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 3: I can't do this.

649
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: I think you had to like if I remember, you

650
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: had to ask for like three Now I guess the

651
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: people that like, now I'm that guy because I always

652
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: want sparkling water instead of distill. But you had to

653
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: ask for like three different waters?

654
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 2: Did you want on still flat sparkling?

655
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then like the utensils had to be like

656
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: three fingertips from the thing. And I was like, I'm

657
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: just gonna go to the gym.

658
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 2: Tight ship, baby, they run a tight shipped over in

659
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 2: the hill. Did you ever go to Olfornos Alfornos?

660
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 3: Maybe once when I was a kid, but like I

661
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 3: don't remember it as much.

662
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 2: Did you ever go to Sienna's? No, that was over

663
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 2: there on the hill. We used to go there. We

664
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 2: weren't allowed to go to Federal We weren't. We weren't

665
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: really allowed to go to Providence. Coach didn't want us there.

666
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of great restaurants on one island.

667
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: Corserti's Pizza is obviously a big one. Yeah, Rosa MEAs

668
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: pizza in Johnson is phenomenal. I got what's called Rosie

669
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: you gotta find It's like the true Sicilian pizza, like

670
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: nice thick square slices.

671
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 2: What kind of sauce. It is a sweet sauce, not

672
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: too so wet.

673
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: It has like the it's got like pepperoni and the

674
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: pepper's on there and like built underneath the cheese.

675
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 3: We get that a lot with my grandmother.

676
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: Now, does your grandma make like a hell of a

677
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: like red sauce and ship?

678
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 3: Have you seen known as on Netflix?

679
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: Great?

680
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, great movie, It's fun, right, yeah, but I was,

681
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: I couldn't remember if my grandma they're called her sauce,

682
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: sauce or gravy, gravy, but she made a hell of

683
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: a you know, a sauce or gravy.

684
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 6: You know.

685
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: I always want to experience that Italian East Coast mom

686
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: that was us that.

687
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: Every what Sunday, I mean every night, so every night

688
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: because they she lived in the same house by dad,

689
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: there was I think there was nine brothers and sisters combined,

690
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: but you never knew who was coming over. So she

691
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: would make dinner every night, and it was it was

692
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: just an open door. So like whoever came in came,

693
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: you know, if you got there late, you didn't eat

694
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: you and so but on Sundays we would have like

695
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: a you know, a big, a big ordeal, like all

696
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: my aunts would cook, my grandmother would cook. It was

697
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just like just like the movie.

698
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 2: It was cool.

699
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: It was cool to kind of relive that I watched

700
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: that other night with my wife.

701
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: No, we got bread for every everything. Right, bread has

702
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: to be bread. I've learned that in the Italian house,

703
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: you gotta have a piece of bread in the hand

704
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: at all time for the sauce, the fucking noodles.

705
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: That you can't You got to dip the bread in

706
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,239
Speaker 1: the sauce. You can't let the sauce go to wait.

707
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: I don't eat as I don't eat as much bread anymore.

708
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 2: Can't coach I know.

709
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: I mean I'm getting old and uh.

710
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: Not getting old. But I I've heard the interviews. You

711
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: got to stay in shape so you you can understand

712
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: the the perspective that the players are in.

713
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: Right.

714
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: I think that's important. I think that's a way to

715
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: be empathetic for what those guys have to go tell. Yeah,

716
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: but I lost touch. I don't do the coffee uh

717
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: after dinner. I can't do that. I'll never know to sleep,

718
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: I can't.

719
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: No, I'm sensitive that stuff too. What do was like

720
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 2: the t is that the alcohol just d just E

721
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: is a dj D. What else is Zambuca? And then

722
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: there's another one. There's a Lemon Lemonello. But there's there's

723
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: a tomorrow that's phenomenal. Like the tomorrows are great. I

724
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: used to drink those a little bit. They always say

725
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: it makes your stomach feel better. I felt like it

726
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 2: made me drunker. I think both can be true. Effect

727
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: we'll be right back after this quick break. Coach, you

728
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: played at West Virginia. Yeah, went to a final four.

729
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: Explain this, like, how was that experience? You got to

730
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: play in a fucking four? That's insane?

731
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think, uh, it was such a

732
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: it went by so fast. It does, went by so

733
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: fast that the week leading up to it went by

734
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: really fast.

735
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 3: You know.

736
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: First, like college, I had two great coaches and I

737
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: started out with coach Bline. It was great, and then

738
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: I you know, and then I started and then I

739
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: went to coach Huggins. It was phenomenal. And then we

740
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: just had great teammates, like and now you we went

741
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: to the final four. It kind of all came together.

742
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: But that was when I realized that, like man, winning

743
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,239
Speaker 1: is not as fun as people think it is. Like

744
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: it's it wasn't an easy year like we were in

745
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: the I think we were in top top ten.

746
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 3: Most of the year.

747
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: I think we finished thirty one and nine or something

748
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: like that, but one and seven, but it never felt

749
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: like that.

750
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 3: It felt like we were five hundred the whole year.

751
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: And that was that that prepared me for kind of

752
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: where we're at now and the healthy approach to like

753
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: nothing is ever going to be good enough when you

754
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: have a responsibility to greatness and so like I just

755
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: remember like practices being miserable, Like it was like, man,

756
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: this this responsibility to winning goes beyond the always of

757
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: winning and you have to fight for their perspective, but

758
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: you also have to take on That was the biggest

759
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 1: thing I learned. Like we lost the game of New

760
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: Year's Eve to Purdue and we got smacked, and you

761
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: would have thought the season was over, and yet I

762
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: think we were like still top ten, and so it

763
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: was a great balance of learning you know what comes

764
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: with success and how you have to handle that throughout

765
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: the season. And you know, we had we had great

766
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: guys that were able to just bring us there.

767
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: Now who would bring that mindset of mediocrity even though

768
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: you guys were above you. Guys were fucking thirty one

769
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: and seven? Was that Bob Huggins?

770
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 3: Oh are?

771
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? How was it playing for him? He's alleged he.

772
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: Is a legend, very misunderstood guy, but he was the best,

773
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: and he was very He reminded me of my father,

774
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: but he was the best.

775
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: To play for. How how did he remind your father?

776
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: Just no nonsense, had a nate ability to the fuck you

777
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: and I love you became synonymous and you couldn't tell

778
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: which one was which. Yeah, that's the best way to

779
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: describe it. Like sometimes when it was fuck you, I

780
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: was hearing I love you, and sometimes when I was

781
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: hearing I love you, I was hearing fuck you.

782
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: Does that make sense? It does. It's bad that I

783
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: know and understand that.

784
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: And so like so like my dad, like coach Hugs

785
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: were like the same there where it was like I

786
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: just couldn't tell what it was that day, but you

787
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: knew it was to get the best out of you.

788
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: It was the only thing he cared about, was like

789
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: getting the best out of you, and he'll go to

790
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: any measure possible to get the best out of you.

791
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: There was no restrictions towards that. But The best thing

792
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: he did was when the game or the practice was over.

793
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: He never brought that energy and never brought that energy

794
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: from what he was doing on the sideline to what

795
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: you were doing off the court. I mean then, I

796
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: think that's a huge balance for a coach.

797
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean, people don't what goes on in

798
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: a game is different than that. I think that's what

799
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 2: the good coaches and players relationships.

800
00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: Like.

801
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: I remember there's a few times, you know with my

802
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: chat chatty o'sha, my receiver, coach, we're fucking each other up,

803
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: you know, on the sideline after the game we get

804
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: to win, all right, Ye, all right man, you know

805
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 2: that's just how it goes in battle.

806
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it.

807
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 2: But I think you got to be able to take

808
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: the cap off though.

809
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: You have to be able to and I think that's

810
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing I learned from him, was he

811
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: was able to take the cap off more times than

812
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: that of like, you know, how I hold you accountable

813
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: on them. It's because I love you. But then this

814
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: love kind of looks different when you're off the floor.

815
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: And he was amazing at that. Yeah, amazing.

816
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: Now I heard this story about what is it the

817
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: Ultimate fucking the Ultimate Alpha challenge with your dad. Yeah,

818
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: well it struck me because where'd you hear that? I

819
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: heard it. I think barstool maybe, Oh yeah. And it

820
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: struck me because you guys went to a baseball field

821
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 2: and you had to get out.

822
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I went.

823
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: I had a similar situation. It was just I was

824
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 2: doing batting practice with my dad and I was dipping

825
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: my shoulder. I think I was thirteen, and I finally

826
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: at that age, was like trying to bow up and

827
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: he was brushing me off the plate.

828
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

829
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 2: Right, and this is before a game. This is at

830
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: like four three. You get a little VP before a game.

831
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 2: Then we go to the game and fucking I got

832
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: sick of it. He threw at me. I threw the

833
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: bat down and I charged amount of my daddy one

834
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 2: tude me put me on the ground. I ended up

835
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 2: going to the game with the bloody, bloody jersey.

836
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

837
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 2: People were asking me. You know, I was like, but

838
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 2: that didn't practice when didn't go? Well, now, actually, now

839
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: look at you, but like, is that the pulling the

840
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: best out of you?

841
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: So I would so if I think I remember this

842
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: story correctly, I I our soccer game got canceled. It

843
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: was raining, and he was probably pissed that he had

844
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: to come all the way out to Walwick to pick

845
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: me up and h he was given my friend a

846
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: ride home. Uh you know Mark good friend of mine.

847
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: You know, he was on the soccer team, and uh,

848
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: you know he was so he had to be pissed

849
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: because it was a tough place to get you it

850
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: was right now the airport.

851
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

852
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: And so on the way to dropping Mark off at

853
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: his house, I'm being you know, he's mad.

854
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 3: I'm being even more mad.

855
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: I'm showing off in front of you know, my friend here,

856
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: and you know, he was just like, okay, I'm going

857
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: to take care of you.

858
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 3: After we dropped this kid off. And so, you know,

859
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 3: I mean, the kid's house is on the right.

860
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: You come out, you take a right, you go down

861
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: the main road, you take a left, and then off

862
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: the main road, there's this baseball field and it's raining,

863
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: and he's just like he's had enough. You know, I'm

864
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: just being a fucking dick, and he's just like, winner

865
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: take all. And we go into this we go, we

866
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: go into the batting we go into the batting cage

867
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: of the field and he's just like give me your

868
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: best shot, like you know, and like you I think

869
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: I have a chance. Yeah, I really thought I had

870
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: a chance. But at first I was like, Okay, how

871
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: am I going to go out there? So I like,

872
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: because of the rain, I picked up some dirt and

873
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: tried to throw it in his face and at the

874
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: same time kick him in the nuts.

875
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, oldest trigger try it.

876
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, But the thing is, they bught us the trick.

877
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: They taught us.

878
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: The trick catches my heel leg, sweeps me, mounts me,

879
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: and just starts fucking just wailing on it.

880
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

881
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: By that time, we're late to Grandma's dinner and I'll

882
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: never forget. He just looked at me and he goes,

883
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: you don't fucking say a word, like nothing happened. And

884
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: so I walk into my grandmother's house. Was just like

885
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: a wet beaten dog. I just I just eat my

886
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: meal as if like it. You know, I was just dead.

887
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: It humbled, But he did it did. I didn't go

888
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: back to my dad ever again after.

889
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 3: I never tried that, never tried that again, never.

890
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 2: Tried it again. You felt the strength they never felt before.

891
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: But I felt it was important to try it.

892
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 7: You had you got to test the limits. Who are

893
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 7: you if you don't try it? Hey, he had me

894
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 7: down trying to get him his ship. I remember, he's

895
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 7: like he done yet. Oh I heard that story. I cried.

896
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 7: I was like, God, there's other crazy fucking people out there. Yeah,

897
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 7: because I mean people used to drive by the fucking

898
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 7: field with me and my dad were having batting practice

899
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 7: and he'd be like, oh, man is wailing on his

900
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 7: kid again.

901
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: I knew that today's birthday. Actually he passed, but his birthday.

902
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: Birthday pop by, Happy birthday, l ip man. Man.

903
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: He gave me so many I mean I remember, like

904
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: I used to I used to have to kneel on rice.

905
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: But when I got in trouble that hurt, Like I

906
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: have to like sit in the corner like nelon Rice.

907
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: That's a Catholic shit.

908
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: But like he just he brought something out of you

909
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: that like to this day, like you it's necessary to

910
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: take on whatever it is we're taking on right now.

911
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: So like that was just the beginning. Yeah, I mean

912
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: I remember we played. I sucked one game and this

913
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: dude just beat the hell out of me. I think

914
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: I filed out and he like went over to my coach.

915
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: I was like, I'll give him a ride home today.

916
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

917
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 3: I was like, now, I'm good, I'll take the bus,

918
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 3: get him ride.

919
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: Home, you know what. And my dad used to coach me,

920
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 2: and everyone would be like, oh, man, your dad's a coach.

921
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, right, I got to go home

922
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 2: with her. No, what's your favorite memory about your dad? Though?

923
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: Man, my favorite memory about my dad was how he

924
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: coached my cousin. So, my cousin, she was one of

925
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: the you know, one of the best players in Rhode Island.

926
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: I used to go to all her games and all

927
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: her practices, and he would make her cry every day. Yeah,

928
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: whether it was a game, whether it was a practice,

929
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: like it was his goal to make her cry. That's

930
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: my favorite memory. But she needed it, she needed it,

931
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: she loved it. But it was also like to watch

932
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: him he did. He wasn't just coaching me that way,

933
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: he coached everybody that way. And uh, you know, as

934
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: I got a little bit older, the relationship that Chelsea

935
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 1: and him had was kind of like I was seeing

936
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: what he was doing with me in real time because

937
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: she was old in me, and so I always appreciated

938
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: how he did that.

939
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: And I mean all the time.

940
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

941
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: And then in eighth grade he coached my eighth grade

942
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: team at Saint Mary's and uh, let's just say he

943
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: had a couple run ins with you know, faculty on

944
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 1: coaching me a little bit too hard.

945
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and that that sounds about right. Yeah, that

946
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 2: was different generation.

947
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: Did he transition into like becoming more like when I

948
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 3: got to college.

949
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: He wasn't like that, No, because he became a man.

950
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 2: He became.

951
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, like when I got to college, he was the opposite,

952
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: Like he was just a supporting figure.

953
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 3: He was like a you know, you know, he did

954
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 3: the exact opposite.

955
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: It was like I did my time, you know, and

956
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: he let me kind of grow into who I who

957
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: I was at the time.

958
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: It's crazy, that's exactly how it was with me, because

959
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: once you surpassed their nol, not like their knowledge, but

960
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: once they like let you out, it was like, now

961
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 2: we're here to support.

962
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, So they weren't like overbearing.

963
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: He's doing it for a clear perce. Yes, it would have.

964
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: I would have not have appreciated it if he kept

965
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: it going in college. He wasn't making it about him, No,

966
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: He's making it about me. And he was able to

967
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: release that.

968
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, love that. Let's go into a segment where

969
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 2: you go back in the time when the game took

970
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: place and we go over pop culture. This game took

971
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: place October eighteenth, twenty twenty two. Number one movie Halloween Ends.

972
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: Didn't see you see a coach, Nope, never heard of it.

973
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 2: It's that one of the Halloweens.

974
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 4: It's when Halloween ends.

975
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a big I don't like Halloween. Scary

976
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: movie with your coach, big Halloween. I never liked Halloween

977
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: until like, I have a little girl and she like

978
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: we're already talking about costumes. One song, Bad Habits Steve

979
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: Lacey never heard of that ever heard of NBA Champions

980
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 2: Denver Nuggets with Joker. Joel Embiid was the MVP. Chiefs

981
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,479
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl. Patrick was the MVP. First time

982
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: that was done. MVP wins the Super Bowl in a

983
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: long time. I Grove Astros win twenty twenty two World

984
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 2: Series against Philly. Rock Purty makes his NFL debut. What's

985
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: the best Boston movie of all time? Coach? I know

986
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 2: you love the town, but is that your favorite?

987
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 3: It's between the town and the depart I'd say.

988
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, depends on what kind of relief you need. Do

989
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 2: you want to know what kind.

990
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 3: Of mood you're in?

991
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up on the Departy, but the

992
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: town as I got older, And the reason why I

993
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: kind of resonate a little bit more with the town

994
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: than the part of it is is the identity and

995
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: the love factor. You know that like you're in this space,

996
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: like I feel like kind of you know this area

997
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: and kind of how I grew up of like and

998
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: even people in general, not necessarily to an area, but

999
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: it's like you're always you don't like the person you are,

1000
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 1: but you do when you're trying to be something that

1001
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: you want to be something more, but like you're who

1002
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: you are is bringing you down, so to speak, you

1003
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And I feel like the town

1004
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: portrays so much more than violence, where it shows an

1005
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: identity crisis of like this area made me, but I'm

1006
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 1: looking for more, you know, and you know the great

1007
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: things about me are from this area, but also the

1008
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: tough things about me are from this area. And how

1009
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: do you evolve as a person, And you know, living

1010
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: in a space of being falling in love with someone

1011
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: but also robbing banks at the same time is like

1012
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: there's nothing more of a duality or approach to that,

1013
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: and so it just has a little bit more of

1014
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: a than the part of where like it's an action

1015
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: and it's a great movie like this is like you know,

1016
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: it shows more of like life of like you know,

1017
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out your identity but you have

1018
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: these things tugging with you at all times. But you

1019
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: want to be a better person. And by the way,

1020
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: I love you, but I'm also using you because you're

1021
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: getting interrogated by the FBI.

1022
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: What's more, you know, Yeah, it's darker. Yeah, it's really

1023
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: I'm attracted to you know, like the party is comic.

1024
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: There's some comedy relief with you know, Jack and how

1025
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 2: he does things. There's a little funniness to it. Yeah,

1026
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: the other one town and there ain't nothing that's that

1027
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: ship feels real. It's just dark.

1028
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: I agree with you, And I'm not saying it as

1029
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: like a staying like I'm attracted to the dark side

1030
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: of greatness or the dark side of like the tugs

1031
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: of identity and love and lead shadows.

1032
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: You're part of the Batman people. I mean trilogy is

1033
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: by far the best trilogy that is by far by far. Yeah,

1034
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: I mean the Dark Knight is dark. You know what.

1035
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: You know what I loved. I loved Batman Begins because

1036
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: I was a huge Batman kid when I was a kid,

1037
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: and to see the origin of where it all came from,

1038
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: Like I was like, oh my god, that's how they

1039
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 2: got the Batcave Holy Ship. Yeah, oh man, that's where

1040
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: he got his fucking moves. He went to i know,

1041
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: or Japan wherever he went. Like that was like, and

1042
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 2: then the Dark Knight was crazy, and then Bane came.

1043
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: And I think the Batman begins third. I think it's

1044
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: Dark Knight, Dark Knight Rises, then Batman begain.

1045
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: I think I'll go Dark Knight, Batman Begins, Dark Knight Rises.

1046
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 2: It got a little long at the last one.

1047
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1048
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: But the space I love is like villains, you know,

1049
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: like the movies and like these are like the themes

1050
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: that I always think about of, like there really isn't

1051
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: much difference between the hero and the villain, right, And

1052
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: I think that's the space of why the villain gets

1053
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: so frustrated is like the self righteousness of the hero

1054
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: thinking he's better than someone else because he's quote unquote

1055
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: trying to do the right thing, you know, and so

1056
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: they're more similar than than you think.

1057
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: Are you a Star Wars fan? I'm not because I

1058
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 2: have that same argument with you know, the dark side

1059
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 2: and having the force, you know, I think when you're

1060
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 2: what are they called sith a sith? When you're a Sith,

1061
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: all they are people that have the force, that make

1062
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: decision through emotion. Yeah, when you're a Jedi, you're making

1063
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: decision emotionally, so it's more peaceful. But why are we

1064
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,959
Speaker 2: getting mad at a person that's making emotional decision because

1065
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: we all do that.

1066
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know the spaces, but the gap between a

1067
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: hero and a villain is much it's it's very similar

1068
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: to like the gap between winning and losing and greatness

1069
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: to you know, be good to great. Like that gap

1070
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: is so much closer than people think, and it's very

1071
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: small fundamental details that separate you.

1072
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 4: Uh.

1073
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 2: And that's the space that I like to like dive

1074
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 2: into a lot. What is it the saying you live

1075
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: long enough of the hero, you die the villain or.

1076
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: Something dark knight, the dire hero live long enough to

1077
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: be the villain? I mean, that's that's true as you

1078
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: can get it is. Now, who's your villain? Who's who's

1079
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: the villain?

1080
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 2: Joker? You're the Joker? Yeah, that's your guy. That's that's like,

1081
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 2: that's my guy, like the.

1082
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: Heath Ledger version. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I heard the

1083
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: first time. I mean, so I have this, I mean

1084
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: I got this.

1085
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: So why you're so serious form?

1086
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 6: Wow?

1087
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: Because of like that perfect balance of like you know,

1088
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's a great question.

1089
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

1090
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: Now what he goes into like telling the story as

1091
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: to like how he got to that.

1092
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 3: Point, you know, but it's like, you know.

1093
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: It's amazing how he Like if you look at the

1094
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: Batman and the Joker, it's like the Joker had no rules,

1095
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: but he really just wanted honesty, you know, but he

1096
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: just went to the wrong depths to try and get

1097
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: that honesty. Meanwhile, Batman was like, you know, I'm doing

1098
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm doing this for all the right reasons, when in reality,

1099
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 1: like was he and you know, they're not much different.

1100
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: They're not you need to do a movie podcast, that's

1101
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 2: what you should do on your spare time. I was

1102
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: gonna ask you what do you do on your spare time?

1103
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 2: But probably gona get better at my job first. That's

1104
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 2: the start there there, that's the coach right there. What

1105
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 2: are we watching anything? Like? When we have any downtime

1106
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: right now.

1107
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: I try to watch so during the playoffs, I was

1108
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: watching the bin Laden documentary.

1109
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 2: I watched that too, man.

1110
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 3: I mean they should so you know they have like, no,

1111
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: they have what's that thing called? Were you like? Escape rooms?

1112
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? They should have.

1113
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: We should start a business where you have like situation

1114
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: rooms and like you can sign up and go in

1115
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: and like reenact different things. You know, like hey, what

1116
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: are you doing tonight? We're gonna grab dinner and then

1117
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna go reenact and been lot and raid, you.

1118
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

1119
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: Like like I think the escape room is just the beginning.

1120
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, what are you doing tonight? We're gonna

1121
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: simulate these.

1122
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 2: You go down to like the West Coast, you can

1123
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 2: go deal with those like they teach you how to

1124
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: like the John Wick guy that teaches you gun.

1125
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 1: Like I'm talking like down here on like the main road.

1126
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not saying like you gotta go out.

1127
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying like you can find an escape room anywhere,

1128
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: like at a billiard spot. Yeah, like tonight we're going

1129
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: to reenact for no. Maybe we talk about morality, but tonight,

1130
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 1: we're going to reenact like negotiation tactics, like hey, you're

1131
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: gonna get you know, after dinner, you're gonna be kidnapped,

1132
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: and I gotta I.

1133
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 3: Gotta use my negotiation tactics to like get you.

1134
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: Back, like more strategy than yeah, yeah, you know what

1135
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 1: I mean.

1136
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: I just want some situations.

1137
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 1: Like so I whatever I watch, I try to tie

1138
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: into like how you can you know? Another great one

1139
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: is so we should think more about that business.

1140
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 4: I'm into it. I like that boardroom screen someone comes in.

1141
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: My favorite movies is the Game?

1142
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 3: Is that Michael Douglas.

1143
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, where he hires the people to put himself in

1144
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 2: that situation because he wants excitement.

1145
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, huh, I'm just playing in this night.

1146
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 2: I like this fun Friday night.

1147
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 3: I mean escape rooms are just the beginning.

1148
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's child's blake.

1149
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 3: Come on, I mean, I mean that's over. I mean that's.

1150
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 5: Boring, trying to go PF Chang's maybe a little water

1151
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 5: boarding afterwards.

1152
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 1: So Ballas I told me a story about he brought

1153
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: in a guy. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know

1154
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: if we're supposed to talk about this.

1155
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, we we tried it. There was a there was

1156
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: a select few, but send someone tr Yeah, there's a

1157
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 2: few of US enhance interrogation techniques. I can't I don't

1158
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 2: want to put it on the name on blast, but

1159
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: like we used to have a bunch of Navy seals

1160
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: that would come and train with US teachers hand combat,

1161
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage ship. Yeah, and a couple of

1162
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 2: bold guys are like, hey man, we want to try this,

1163
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: we want to get water boarded. Yeah, and it's pretty weird.

1164
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, did you know?

1165
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: I didn't.

1166
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 3: I'm surprised by that.

1167
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 2: Well, I was out. It was a linebacker group that

1168
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 2: hung out with them the most. Uh okay, But I

1169
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: wasn't scared of it. They just they were doing it.

1170
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 2: Sounds like you were a little scared of it to me,

1171
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 2: Not really. I honestly don't see how it would be

1172
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: that weird. If you just put a what do you

1173
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: put a fucking tall over your face? You pour water

1174
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: on and now they're not gonna kill me. I'm not scared.

1175
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 3: But do you know that they're not gonna kill it?

1176
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess you do.

1177
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're pros, you know what I mean?

1178
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: To of Obayose guys, have done that million opened up wrs.

1179
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Jesus, I wasn't thinking water blass. Sorry I

1180
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: took it to another I'm sorry. You gotta try. You

1181
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: gotta drown yourself.

1182
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 4: The kidnapped the president's daughter. And now you gotta like your.

1183
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: Kids, Like now you're teaching your kids, like you know

1184
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: now you have like your life and your kids. You

1185
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: have a different level of trust of like hey, like

1186
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: you know my oldest Hey, I'm gonna go in first,

1187
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: you get my back, You check the corner like you

1188
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: work on those things. Like I think there's a great

1189
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: not only team, but like those are just great, you know,

1190
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 1: dynamic building things out.

1191
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: There be a distraction.

1192
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go this way, you go that way, Lily

1193
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 6: all right.

1194
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: Hey starting young baby, starting like it. I also, I'm

1195
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 2: really because of how deep you are. What's on your

1196
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 2: pregame playlist? Because is it? Are you? Are you? Like?

1197
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: Because I'm an instrumental guy. So you listen to music

1198
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: every game. And I don't sit in my own office.

1199
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: I sit in the assistance room. We all hang out

1200
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: together and like you know, just we kind of meet

1201
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: all the time. And so Matt Reynolds, your your boys,

1202
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: great guy, great coach. He takes turns. Each guy gets

1203
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: to pick their own playlist, and so it just rotates

1204
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: throughout the entire season.

1205
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 2: Rotating the ox what's on yours?

1206
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: Well, when we went down, Uh it got pretty it

1207
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,959
Speaker 1: got pretty dark. There's ah we had, you know, Gray

1208
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: to die, Biggie, ain't no sunshine. D m X filled

1209
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: in the air Phil Collins and d m x's uh

1210
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: redo of that, Somebody's got to die tonight. Pearls by Saday,

1211
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: you know.

1212
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 2: You gotta smooth it out like that's still a little

1213
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 2: you know, Pearls is a little dark though you know

1214
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's in there.

1215
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: Got some worship songs on there, just to kind of

1216
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: bring you back so that you don't you know, you

1217
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 1: got to keep the balance a little bit. Every song

1218
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: I listened to, I asked, can I come out to

1219
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: this for a UFC Championship fight.

1220
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 4: That's a good test that.

1221
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 3: You know that that's to know if it's a good

1222
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 3: song or not.

1223
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: I like so I would always go with like Hans

1224
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: Zimmer movie music, so like inceptions, fucking man, you know,

1225
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: like that Interstellar, like those those playlist or those soundtracks

1226
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 2: because I didn't want words. I wanted to think my words.

1227
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 2: So I like, I like that. I like also I

1228
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,959
Speaker 2: wanted to I wanted to like I wanted to walk

1229
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 2: through my play sheet, and I wanted to see the

1230
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 2: coverage to that music. Like you're watching a movie where

1231
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: you see a scene and the music can bring a

1232
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: fucking scene to a whole other level if it's right.

1233
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, what are those called montages? Maybe?

1234
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? Maybe those Yeah, But.

1235
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 3: I like a song where I can match the montage.

1236
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: And so like Naughty by Nature is hip hop, Array

1237
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: is in the Last Dance, and so I'll listen to

1238
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 1: the song and replay that that segment of the Last Dance. Yea,

1239
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: you know there's there's another one of there's a KRS

1240
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: one song that is really cool that's in the last Dance.

1241
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 3: I'll listen to that KRS one song. So like, I

1242
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 3: like that, I might take that.

1243
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: I'll send you a couple.

1244
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, the best one is from The Dark Knight Rises,

1245
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: when he's in that cave and they're chanting and he's gotta,

1246
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: he's gotta.

1247
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 3: You know, we'll think, get out of the cave.

1248
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 2: If I'm trying to be real crazy, what I'll do

1249
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 2: is I'll get up on my skateboard, I'll throw on

1250
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 2: the Dark Knight Rises soundtrack at night and you go

1251
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 2: fucking cruising. You feel like you're Batman. I swear.

1252
00:52:59,480 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 3: Done this.

1253
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: I'm million times. Is that when you got hit by

1254
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 2: that guy I was longboard. It's some dude to hit

1255
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 2: me when I was playing, well, I fell into him.

1256
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: I look at him. He looked at me. He goes,

1257
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: are you all right?

1258
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I'm good.

1259
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 2: He's going the Dark Knight Rises soundtrack. Yeah, or if

1260
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: I'm on a dirt bike or something.

1261
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 3: Moonlight Sonata is a good one.

1262
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1263
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: It kind of just takes you and I'll that's on

1264
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: the playlist. Moonlight Sonata the song from the Dark Knight Rises.

1265
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: I forget the name of it.

1266
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 2: I think it's just Dark Knight Rise Hans Zimmer because

1267
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 2: it goes by the scene.

1268
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you gotta check it out. I like Moonnight Sonata.

1269
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

1270
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 2: I'm gonna check it out. Yeah, let's Jackie. Let's jump

1271
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 2: into this match up. Should we get into these sixers? Real?

1272
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 2: Get into these sixers?

1273
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 5: Fifty four and twenty eight finished third in the East.

1274
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 5: This was the final year of the Doc Rivers era

1275
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 5: in Philly. This was, of course, Joel Embiid's MVP season

1276
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 5: notably led the NBA in free throw percentage eighty three

1277
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 5: and a half and three point percentage thirty eight point seven.

1278
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 5: Re signed James Harden after trading from the year before

1279
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 5: h Mac mclung dunk contest winner two way guy. We

1280
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 5: all remember that one though, and yeah, finished third in

1281
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 5: the East.

1282
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 2: Coach, how do you describe the Celtics seventy six ers rivalry?

1283
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 2: I mean, these are two some of the oldest cities

1284
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 2: in this beautiful country that we live in. The Bell

1285
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 2: being cracked over there, John Hancock being buried here. I mean,

1286
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 2: we could go into the history. What does this rivalry mean?

1287
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: I learned more about that watching Celtic City, you know,

1288
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: because I think the you know, watching that dynamic there. Yeah,

1289
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: so I think that runs deeper than maybe I understood,

1290
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: you know that that particular one.

1291
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1292
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now let's do some dude talk. What makes Joe

1293
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 2: Embiid so so good?

1294
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you know the thing I appreciate about him

1295
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: that I'm pretty sure he was a soccer goalie, So

1296
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 1: I think his foot that is correct. Yeah, his footwork,

1297
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: his hand eye coordination, and him and a goal his timing,

1298
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: his timing and his angles like that. Studying some of

1299
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: those guys brought me back to like the building connections

1300
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 1: on different sports, right like Tim Duncan being a swimmer.

1301
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: I think Akima Lajuwon was a goalie, and so like,

1302
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: what can teach you from one sport you can transition

1303
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: into making you and that kind of like that was

1304
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: one of the only advantages I had when I went

1305
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: to college was I wasn't great.

1306
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 2: Uh, I wasn't.

1307
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: I didn't have a lot of talent, but because of

1308
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: my soccer background, I was conditioned really well and that's

1309
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: that helped me defensively take on angles and footwork and

1310
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: changing directions and so always fascinated by his how seeing

1311
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: what a goalie does and how he translates that. Yokic

1312
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 1: is like that with water polo. If you watch water polo,

1313
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: you're essentially watching Yokic post exactly.

1314
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 3: That's how he plays.

1315
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah he plays he yeah, like he would he You

1316
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: can tell how he palms the ball, how he won

1317
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: touch passes it when it's mid air, how he how

1318
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: he almost embraces people draping on him, because like you're

1319
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: you're having to do both of those things, and like

1320
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: watching him is like watching a water polo there, So

1321
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 1: I've never.

1322
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 2: Put that together. That's that's the first time I ever

1323
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 2: heard that. Yeah.

1324
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 3: So like when I watch Yokic, I see water polo.

1325
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: When I watch Embiid, I see how you know, his

1326
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: soccer background gave him the footwork, the angles, the handoue,

1327
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: coronation of timing to be so effective at such a

1328
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: for such a big guy.

1329
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about James Harden His he watching.

1330
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: Him plays like listening to like Moonlight Sonata, like never

1331
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: get sped up, plays at his own pace always, yeah,

1332
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 1: always smooth, smooth.

1333
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 2: Knows how to knows how to make a basket when

1334
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: he needs, knows how to just get to us, you know,

1335
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 2: just do those those rule books too.

1336
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, I like that does what he does?

1337
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 3: You know?

1338
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 2: All right, let's let's let's jump into the Celtics. Jackie

1339
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: break into the Celtics. He's twenty twenty two Celtics.

1340
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 5: Fifty seven and twenty five went into the All Star

1341
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 5: Break with the best record in the NBA at forty

1342
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 5: two and seventeen.

1343
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: Uh coming off of Finals loss.

1344
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 5: The year before, the Golden State added some new key

1345
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 5: pieces Malcolm Brogden, Gallinari, Blake Griffin. This was the first

1346
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 5: full season with Derek White after bringing him in the

1347
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 5: year before, resigned Luke and Sam in the offseason and.

1348
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 2: Prior to this year.

1349
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 5: This will be a little foreshadowing for the game lost

1350
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 5: the legend Bill Russell in July, which was a huge

1351
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 5: loss for the Celtics in the basketball world as a whole.

1352
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 5: And of course you got the Jays Jalen Jason from

1353
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 5: the year before. So we're yelling coming into this year

1354
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 5: and we got Smart still there, and we got a

1355
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 5: new head coach, and we got a new head coach

1356
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 5: our main man, what was.

1357
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 2: It like being called to be the nineteenth coach for

1358
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 2: the Historics Boston Celtics.

1359
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of where my faith came into play.

1360
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: It just felt like it was a true gift from God. Really,

1361
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: Like it was like, I don't belong here, you know,

1362
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: you go through a little bit of like how the

1363
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: hell did I get here? Slash I don't belong here,

1364
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: but I also I was put here, you know, by God,

1365
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: and so like that's really the only way to describe it.

1366
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 2: Can you describe to people, our viewers that are from

1367
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 2: different cities, how the Celtics are different than any other

1368
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 2: NBA Yeah, franchise.

1369
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: I think it's it's starts with the history, you know,

1370
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: it starts with the tradition, it starts with some of

1371
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: the greatest players to have ever played the game, and

1372
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: then it goes to the city. Like you know, there's

1373
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: not much difference between how Hugs motivated us the year

1374
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: we went to the Final four and what it's like

1375
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: to be in Boston. I think the only way for

1376
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: a team to maximize itself, not just in one year,

1377
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,479
Speaker 1: but in a series of years is like we took

1378
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: on the identity of West Virginian people, the gritty, the

1379
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: hard nose, the blue collar. Like he was very adamate

1380
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: on like playing for something bigger than yourself, And it's

1381
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: the same thing here. You know, you're playing for something

1382
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: bigger than yourself. You're not playing for just yourself. You're

1383
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: playing for the guy next year, but you're playing for

1384
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: the city. You're playing for the competency of the fans

1385
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: and the respect of the fans and the respect of

1386
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: the organization. And you know that comes with a lot

1387
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: of responsibility that comes with It's not easy, but it's

1388
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: necessary and it's a compliment that you get.

1389
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 3: That responsibility to be able to do it.

1390
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: But you know, there's nothing better, and it's just different,

1391
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: and I think it's it's a list of all those things.

1392
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be right back after this quick break. Let's

1393
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: get into some of these roster guys. Who who on

1394
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 2: this specific team twenty twenty two Boston Celtics, who is

1395
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: the team asshole, Like the guy that not like an asshole,

1396
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 2: but a team asshole our in our world is a

1397
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 2: good guy that holds people accountable, may not do it

1398
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 2: in the most proper way, but works his dick off. Yeah,

1399
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 2: that kind of asshole, not like an asshole.

1400
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, let's not use that word because I

1401
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: don't like who's a team enforcer.

1402
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's so there's like a few guys.

1403
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: Everybody is in their own way, right like vocal, Like

1404
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: Jason does it in one way, Jalen does it in

1405
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: another way, al does it in another way. For this

1406
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: season and for his time here, you know, you have

1407
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: to give that to smart like his ability to do

1408
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: that and an underlying one who was ended up being

1409
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: one of the best people I ever coached was Blake Griffin.

1410
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: You know, he became like just an amazing guy. Uh

1411
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: and his ability to lead in different ways, both in

1412
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: action and in words, and so you know, they all

1413
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: did it in their own way. But the verbal probably

1414
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: you know, came from Smart, came from Blake, came from

1415
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: jailing at times, came from al at times. Jt leads

1416
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: by example like he's you know, his consistency, and but

1417
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: he also leads, you know, behind the trenches, the way

1418
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: he how he you know, treats other people and and uh,

1419
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: you know, his coach ability. So they all do it

1420
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: in their own way.

1421
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 2: Now how did Blake do it differently?

1422
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: I mean it was actually interesting because like I didn't again,

1423
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: I was the interim and then we signed Blake, and

1424
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, shit, like how am I going to coach

1425
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: this guy?

1426
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 2: Like he was a former number one pick, Like it's Blake.

1427
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: Griffin and you know, his humility, Like he came in

1428
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: and our relationship changed, and it you know, motivated me.

1429
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: When he came to me, it was like, hey, how

1430
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: can I get better? And for a guy of his

1431
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: stature and where he's been to have the foresight to

1432
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: be like, hey, I want to get better, Like how

1433
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: can I?

1434
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 3: You know that was.

1435
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: Huge, right, And and you know every time he talked

1436
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: and decisions that he made, we weren't about him there

1437
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: about you know winning.

1438
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, now you talk about Jason Tatum and how he

1439
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 2: treats people, that's probably a huge component of why he

1440
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 2: is who he is. What else makes him great?

1441
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1442
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: I mean I think you live in that space of

1443
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: like greatness is viewed at as differently.

1444
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 3: And I think another thing when you play.

1445
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: For the Celtics and you have a great team and

1446
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: you have multiple guys, you have to take on everybody's

1447
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: greatness and you have to allow space in order for

1448
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 1: greatness to kind of be exemplified in different ways, right,

1449
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: And you know, like Al does it in a certain way,

1450
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: Jalen does it, and Jalen does it in his way

1451
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: and his approach and his fierceness and his warrior mentality.

1452
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: Jason does it in his consistency and you know, his

1453
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: ability to just want to be coached all the time

1454
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: and want to be held accountable, which they all do that, right,

1455
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: but like you know, so I think that's how he

1456
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: does it. And you know Al does it in his

1457
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: you know, the second guy that I was like, man Like,

1458
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: I think the hardest part about coaching that first year

1459
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: was when we didn't win, and I was like, man,

1460
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: I let Al down beyond all the other guys. Like,

1461
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: when you coach a guy, you know who knows he's

1462
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: got a few years for there was three, four or

1463
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 1: five left, you take on the like as we were

1464
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: talking about earlier, you take on the journey of each

1465
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: of your guys, right, and you take on the good

1466
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: and the tough stuff. And the hardest thing to do

1467
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: was knowing after that season that we didn't give.

1468
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 2: Al what he deserved.

1469
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was that was something that we had

1470
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: to carry into the next season.

1471
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 2: He's just a consummate professional. When I was there, like,

1472
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 2: that was the vet pro guy. Yeah, because when I

1473
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 2: was there, it was I went there and I hung

1474
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 2: out with you guys in like twenty twenty, like Jalen

1475
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 2: and Jason they were still babies. Yeah, you know, Al

1476
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 2: was the old guy, and he wasn't old yet. He's

1477
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 2: kind of getting old, I mean, but he was the

1478
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 2: guy that like was the example for how these guys

1479
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 2: need to be as a professional. How he came into work,

1480
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 2: how is his preparation habits were, how he took care

1481
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 2: of his body, how he practiced on the court. That's

1482
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 2: all the stuff that I just saw being a fly

1483
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 2: on the wall that he that was his leadership. Yeah,

1484
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 2: didn't say much, but when he talked, everyone listens.

1485
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think everyone does in their own way.

1486
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: Like I think you know Jalen he does it with

1487
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: his mindset and his warrior mentality. Jason does it kind

1488
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: of the way out died it, you know, and you

1489
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: need both of those. And I think from what you're

1490
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: talking about when you were there to now, like you know,

1491
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: you've transitioned into each guy does it in their own way,

1492
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: and you need each guy's way to be able to

1493
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: set the.

1494
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 3: Tone and like the temperature of it.

1495
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 2: And it's crazy in basketball because of the smaller rosters,

1496
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 2: they have such an impact on it. Your five guys

1497
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 2: that your guys, they have an impact on everyone. Yeah,

1498
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 2: So they all have to come together and do their

1499
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 2: individual thing and do it in a different way because

1500
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 2: it influences everyone else.

1501
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and everyone else influences that and it's just kind

1502
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: of like a melting pot of it is an influence

1503
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: and I mean it's a chain it is. I think

1504
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: that's the fun part about building a team and building

1505
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: an atmosphere in an environment.

1506
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 3: Is that fun part of how do you put all

1507
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 3: that together?

1508
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1509
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: You know, but the guys make it easy, you know,

1510
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: and I think you know, your best players make it easy.

1511
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 2: You know.

1512
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 3: Jason makes it easy, Jalin makes it easy, and then

1513
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 3: it just goes on.

1514
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 2: Down the list. Yeah, let's jump into the game, Jackie.

1515
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 5: I was gonna say one of my favorite we're talking

1516
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 5: building atmospheres here in building cultures. I think one of

1517
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 5: my favorite moments, and I'm paraphrasing here, coach, was when

1518
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 5: I think Xavier Tillman joined the team and they asked

1519
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 5: him what you told him when he first walked in.

1520
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 2: It was don't be a jerk. I love that. Did

1521
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 2: I say that, I don't know that's what he said.

1522
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 3: Then I said something like, don't be weird, don't like,

1523
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 3: don't treat me like a coach.

1524
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 2: Okay.

1525
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 3: I like that, you know, in the sense of like

1526
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 3: I always think back to that.

1527
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: You know, we got we gotta break down the barriers,

1528
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: like whatever it needs to be said, needs to be said,

1529
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: like don't I think I was trying to say, like don't.

1530
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 3: I think everybody does this, but you see this sometimes, Uh, don't.

1531
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: Whatever it is your previous relationships with your coaches are,

1532
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: don't bring in a preconceived notion of what that's going

1533
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: to be like for us, because I want to do

1534
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: it completely different, you know, and not to say that

1535
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 1: one is better than the other, but let's let's bring

1536
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: an open mind to how we could build our relationship

1537
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: and how we're gonna build a relationship as a team together.

1538
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 2: You know, that may not be different. It could be

1539
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 2: fabricated to what the other coach did, if that's the

1540
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 2: best for the player.

1541
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

1542
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: So like it was more like just coming with an

1543
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 1: open mind and we're gonna we're gonna start from scratch.

1544
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 3: We're just gonna do this together.

1545
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 2: Sorry for botching neck quote, but I love that that point.

1546
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 3: He's a good guy. I like coaching him.

1547
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 2: Shoul we get in this game. Let's get into all right.

1548
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 2: So before this game, we we talked.

1549
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 5: Of course, the last time the Celtics had been on

1550
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 5: the parquet was a loss to the Warriors and the finals. Uh,

1551
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,959
Speaker 5: but both teams were expected to contend for the East

1552
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 5: here the Sixers and the Celtics. So hi, hope trust

1553
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 5: the process, man, trust the process. This was kind of

1554
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 5: that's what I've seen.

1555
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, marketing ploy keep going, sorry for cutting the marketing

1556
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 2: ploy at that Philly they get me, I know. Unfortunately

1557
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 2: after you come at me on this right, all that bullshit,

1558
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 2: get at it here with your tush push come on. Uh.

1559
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 5: But a little bit turmoil going on in the Celtics

1560
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 5: organization coming into this one, with injuries to Robert Williams

1561
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 5: to start the season and Gallinari of course, tore up

1562
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 5: his knee in the in the Euro Basket planning and

1563
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 5: I think Georgia so coming in what a little banged up.

1564
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,479
Speaker 5: And then of course before this game, a really great

1565
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 5: tribute to uh you tore it up in Worlds. Yeah,

1566
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 5: euro basketball. That's that brings a point to me.

1567
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 2: Yes, So, the NFL just passed that one player per

1568
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 2: team could go play on the Olympic flag football team.

1569
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 2: Really yeah, And I don't know if it's going through

1570
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 2: or what, but is there some kind of edge that

1571
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 2: you have when your guys go and play for the

1572
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 2: country because they're not you know, they could get hurt

1573
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 2: or is there like we kind of forget that because

1574
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 2: it's America.

1575
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 4: I think.

1576
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: I think that's always a that's always a point of contention.

1577
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: But I think the good outweighs are bad.

1578
01:06:58,520 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1579
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: I think when you have guys want to take on

1580
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: the responsibility of their country and pray play for another

1581
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: something bigger than themselves, I think the only right thing

1582
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 1: to do is to, uh is to have them do that,

1583
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: and you take a lot of pride in that.

1584
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it'll be interesting in football though, because

1585
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 2: a it's a different fucking sport only sixteen games.

1586
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 3: It doesn't really but it's not.

1587
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like it doesn't have the history of

1588
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: what like the you know, no going to play euro

1589
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: Basket or going to play like it doesn't have that.

1590
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 2: No.

1591
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: I mean it could one day, but it just doesn't yet. Yeah,

1592
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: but you have a chance to win. I guess it's

1593
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: cool because you know, I don't know, not every sport

1594
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 1: has a chance to win.

1595
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 2: To go to Metal Hall. This is our first time.

1596
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 2: So I think I think.

1597
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: That that's something that is something that you got to

1598
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 1: go after.

1599
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 6: I'm to get the knees ready, coach, see if I

1600
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 6: still got a couple of me, give one of these

1601
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:51,919
Speaker 6: little Spanish boys give you get to see what these

1602
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 6: Portuguese dudes know about a real shake route.

1603
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 2: They ain't never seen a return they turn out. Coach,

1604
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 2: So this is your first game, right, well, how nervous

1605
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 2: were you? Did you have nerves going into this? How

1606
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 2: did you handle the team? What was your first game?

1607
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 2: Like first pregame speech? Did you have something that you

1608
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 2: remember from that?

1609
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 3: I don't. I get anxious before every game.

1610
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'm just like, you know, sitting there, I

1611
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: get more anxious, like I can't you know, so.

1612
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 3: That that's never I hope that never goes away.

1613
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:25,759
Speaker 2: It won't.

1614
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:27,600
Speaker 3: I hope that stays.

1615
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly I remember if like, just just

1616
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 1: don't make this about your first game. Make this about

1617
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 1: how we can win the game, you know, And that's

1618
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: kind of what I was, like, don't make it about you.

1619
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: It's really not. It's about you know, we gotta gotta

1620
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,680
Speaker 1: win the game. It's the first one. But at the

1621
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: same time, I think you go through of like, you know,

1622
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: let's see what this is all about, you know. I

1623
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 1: think it was like, Okay, what's the difference between being

1624
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 1: an assistant being a head coach?

1625
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 3: What makes Doc so good? What makes the players so good?

1626
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 2: Like I was.

1627
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 3: It was I was excited to.

1628
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 1: See whether I was going to be good at it

1629
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: or not right away, and what I was going to

1630
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: learn from it and how quickly I can make that adjustment.

1631
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I was like, you got

1632
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 3: to win this.

1633
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 2: Game, got to and it couldn't be a more movie

1634
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 2: type game where you're playing against the Philadelphia seventy six ers,

1635
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 2: against your coaching, against Doc Rivers, who won a championship

1636
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 2: in the city you're coaching for that you were probably

1637
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 2: a fan of when you were a kid, like that

1638
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 2: had to bring some more anxiety, no, or do you

1639
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 2: not worry about them? You?

1640
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 1: No, No, that's definitely true. Like I think, especially my first year,

1641
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: and I think it will always be this way. The

1642
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: people who I looked up to and studied are the

1643
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 1: people that I'm in the arena against now, like and

1644
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 1: I think, you know, every coach you have to be

1645
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 1: able to have a respect for but also steal what

1646
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 1: they're great at and try and do it yourself. And

1647
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 1: so especially that first year, it was like, as I

1648
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: was going on the sideline, I was like, Okay, I

1649
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: remember this about I remember an article about this coach.

1650
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 1: You know, I remember a strength or a weakness about

1651
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 1: this coach. I remember a situation of when this coach

1652
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: did this, and so you take that on and you

1653
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 1: try to use it and you try to use it

1654
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: for yourself and you try to it against them at

1655
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: some point, and so that's never going to go away either.

1656
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, how was the energy that night in the

1657
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 2: in the guard that wasn't That was insane?

1658
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:09,799
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1659
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 1: That was insane. I mean you can't even simulate That's

1660
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: like it's like taking a drug.

1661
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 2: I've never done that, neither.

1662
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 5: I need my doctor to prescribe me. Boston Garden game night,

1663
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 5: Come on now, me going, well, I don't need this

1664
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,480
Speaker 5: be twelve what little game night, Boston Garden atmosphere.

1665
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 2: Bro. If you could like put that in a pill.

1666
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 3: That is it's different.

1667
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 2: So what was your first test as a head coach

1668
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 2: in this game? Coach? You remember a specific time out,

1669
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 2: a specific you know, your.

1670
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 3: First test came we were losing, right.

1671
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 5: Yes, we were really Uh started with a nine to

1672
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 5: two run, seas were up. Then you got outscored twenty

1673
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 5: seven to fifteen for the rest of the first quarter.

1674
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, al a test right of like you know again,

1675
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 1: you can plan as an assistant. You know what your

1676
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,560
Speaker 1: philosophy is going to be, like, what your identity is

1677
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: going to be like, but you don't know what type

1678
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 1: of job you're going to take over until you're in,

1679
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 1: until you're in it. And so like, you know, I

1680
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: had just gotten the interview for the Utah job, which

1681
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 1: is obviously wasn't a different place than what the Celtics

1682
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 1: were in, and so like your mind is like, okay,

1683
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 1: like I'm a young coach sitting on the back bench,

1684
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: I'm probably going to take over a rebuild at some point,

1685
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 1: like you know, And then you know a week later,

1686
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 1: you're taking over a team that has championship expectations. Of

1687
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 1: all those fucking notes you took on, like you know

1688
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 1: that they really just don't matter. They may matter at

1689
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: some point, but they don't right now. And so you're

1690
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 1: still you're kind of using more of your instincts than

1691
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: you are using your experiences because you don't have any experiences,

1692
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: and so I just remember like, okay, like how am

1693
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 1: I intentially going to handle this run that we're on

1694
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 1: or this losing And then it was like it was

1695
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 1: a close game and down the stretch, I remember you know,

1696
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 1: we ran one play three or four times and got

1697
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 1: three or four different great looks out of that towards

1698
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 1: the end of the game, which kind of gave us

1699
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 1: the win there. And so there was a lot to

1700
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 1: unpack there in the game, you know, managing those runs,

1701
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: managing your time out, communication, managing the end of game

1702
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 1: about where the ball is going to, how you're going

1703
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: to execute it, what are the matchups, so all those

1704
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 1: things they came right in Game one.

1705
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember the plays that we ran.

1706
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: I mean, Grant was a huge part of executing some

1707
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: of those off ball actions that we got a couple

1708
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 1: open threes and a layup on. And it was a

1709
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: fruition of some of the stuff that we know we

1710
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: needed to get better at throughout the season, where our

1711
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: off ball actions, and you know, Game one kind of

1712
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: tested that.

1713
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 2: Now do you remember that and what you just said,

1714
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 2: those situations in this specific game because it was your

1715
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 2: first your first game, or do you have like a

1716
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 2: photographic memory where you remember like coaches usually did. I

1717
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 2: don't know.

1718
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 1: I don't want to give I don't want to give

1719
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,759
Speaker 1: myself the credit of saying I have a photographic memory,

1720
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: but I remember I remember I can remember a lot,

1721
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff.

1722
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can remember pinpoint situations.

1723
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, because it's crazy coaches they always yeah.

1724
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 1: It's all we're watching. Yeah, you know, you end up

1725
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 1: watching one game three or four times and then it

1726
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 1: becomes embedded and then you use everything as a reference point.

1727
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 2: And even more probably if you play that team again

1728
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 2: and if you want to get back.

1729
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 1: So it ends up like, yeah, I got a good memory,

1730
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: but at the same time, I'm constantly retrieving it, watching stuff,

1731
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 1: watching the same stuff. So it's more about the retrieval

1732
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 1: over and over again. And then you need this situation

1733
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 1: to be able to uh uh, to fall back on

1734
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: for something else, you know what I mean.

1735
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,640
Speaker 2: Do you guys break down? Do you guys have situational

1736
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 2: basketball like we do in fair Thing? Yeah, I think

1737
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 2: I said, And that's one of the things that Bill

1738
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 2: was so big on, and he was one of the pioneers,

1739
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 2: which some people could say it was parcels, which it

1740
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 2: probably was, but breaking down the game and situations, you

1741
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 2: guys have like a two minute basketball, like playing more.

1742
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: End a quarter, start a quarter, end of the quarter,

1743
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 1: the start of the quarter, end of a half, last

1744
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 1: two or three minutes. You know, to me, that's where

1745
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 1: the I mean similar to that's where the games are

1746
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: won and lost. If you get to the point of

1747
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 1: where it's a close game, it's a I mean the margins.

1748
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 1: I mean it sounds redundant, and but it just that

1749
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 1: that it's the end all be all.

1750
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:52,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, the end all be all, all the margins.

1751
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 1: And they leave this they controlling the margins get will

1752
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 1: dictate how much grace you're allowed to have throughout the game.

1753
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: You know, and you know, if you get into a

1754
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: situation of where it's a one point game, uh in

1755
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter.

1756
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 3: It's it's it's it's almost one.

1757
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 1: Hundred percent because of there was a margin won or

1758
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: lost in a situation. And then the second piece is like,

1759
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 1: how do you manage those runs? Every team's going to

1760
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 1: go on a run. It's can you not have it

1761
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 1: twenty seven to fifteen? Can it be nineteen to fifteen

1762
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: run or twenty one to fifteen run. I think those

1763
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: two things get lost in the shuffle of all the

1764
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 1: stuff that you know gets talked about amongst games.

1765
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 2: Of why you won or lost. They get paid too. Yeah,

1766
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 2: this is National Basketball Association. Okay, they're fucking good. Yeah,

1767
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 2: there's gonna be some big ass plays. You got to

1768
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 2: be able to have a short memory, boys. Yeah, get

1769
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 2: back into the new situation. Jack, can you walk us

1770
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 2: through until halftime?

1771
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 5: First quarter was was defined by that run that we

1772
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,839
Speaker 5: talked about, and Harden got found on three three pointers,

1773
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 5: which is incredible, like just insane that the Garden was

1774
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 5: not loving it.

1775
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 2: We weren't loving it. Eight for eight on free throws.

1776
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 5: He had sixteen in the first big for JB in

1777
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 5: the second fourteen shots seventy one percent in the second quarter.

1778
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 5: The Celtics did as a team. No turnovers was a

1779
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 5: big one in that one to Harden finished the first

1780
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 5: half with four to three, so he and indeed were

1781
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 5: heating up doing the pick and roll thing. They're both

1782
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 5: getting going. Uh tied it up at the half after

1783
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 5: a big second quarter. That takes us into the half.

1784
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 2: So halftime, what's what's the what's the locker room like?

1785
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 1: Under the coach, I think you're as soon as that

1786
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 1: horn goes off, even during the first half, you're I'm

1787
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,759
Speaker 1: constantly saying, Okay, what did we do well, what didn't

1788
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 1: we do well?

1789
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 2: What hurt us?

1790
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 1: And you try to anticipate on what's going to happen

1791
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 1: in the second and then when the horn goes off,

1792
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 1: it's about a forty five second to a minute walk

1793
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 1: to the back. You're you're kind of deciding about like

1794
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 1: all right, like what does the team need.

1795
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 3: Right now in this moment? And then you know, what

1796
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 3: are we going to focus on?

1797
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 1: And so in that game, you're talking about the you know,

1798
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 1: you follow a three point shooter three times and you

1799
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 1: give them nine potential points out of that that you

1800
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 1: have to take that away. And so I think you're

1801
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 1: just constantly and but it changes, right, Sometimes you're in

1802
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 1: there and you show film, you know. Sometimes you're in

1803
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: there and like you don't show any film. Sometimes it's like, okay,

1804
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 1: who does an individual player need something? Or does the

1805
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 1: team need something? And so you're just constantly diagnosing what

1806
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: needs what at that moment, figuring out like, Okay, where

1807
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 1: do we need to be better that we can control?

1808
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 1: Where do we need to be better? Are the things

1809
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 1: that you know we sucked at? And then you know,

1810
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 1: try to get ready for the second half.

1811
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 2: There, Now, how long is the halftime?

1812
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 3: It's fifteen minutes.

1813
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 1: By the time you get back to the locker room,

1814
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 1: It's like thirteen thirty and then you got three and

1815
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 1: a half minutes to look at the halftime minute to

1816
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: see what you want to show, and you try to

1817
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 1: show the half time innute at like ten.

1818
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 2: So do you have cause like whenever our halftime it

1819
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 2: was it was clockwork. We would come in for halftime,

1820
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 2: it was thirteen minutes or twelve minutes. Coaches would have

1821
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 2: two minutes together while we were undrained, like let our

1822
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 2: emotions get down, and then we break up into O

1823
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 2: and D. Offensive coach would have his four keys that

1824
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 2: were going into defensive coach would have his four keys.

1825
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 2: We'd have two minutes there. Then we'd have two minutes

1826
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 2: as a team, and then special teams would have one

1827
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 2: minute or what you like, it was broken down like

1828
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 2: do you guys have a moment where like that or

1829
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 2: it's different because you guys are so small.

1830
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's different. So I think you're in the back.

1831
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 2: As far as roster size.

1832
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 1: No, by the time we get to the team, it's

1833
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: probably four clips offense, four clips defense, or if one

1834
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: side of the ball is just so much more drastically

1835
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 1: different impacting the game, you just focus on that. But

1836
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 1: it's like that in the staff of like, you know,

1837
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 1: the offense team will give their insight, the defense team

1838
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:27,719
Speaker 1: will give their insight. Then the coach doing the halftime

1839
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 1: minute kind of puts in, you know, order of what's

1840
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: most important, and you're just so in that three and

1841
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 1: a half minutes, you're kind of deciding, Okay, what's the

1842
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,600
Speaker 1: most important? Is is it a Are both important or

1843
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: are we focusing on one?

1844
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jackie, let's go to the second half.

1845
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 5: In the second half, really turn up that defensive intensity

1846
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 5: on Embeid, almost like doubling on the catch. The coverage

1847
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 5: was awesome. Smart was in there making it hard for him,

1848
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 5: not getting to his spots. And then, as we talked

1849
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 5: about a little bit earlier, creating fast break opportunities five

1850
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 5: for five on turnovers in the third Celtics were off

1851
01:17:58,080 --> 01:17:58,839
Speaker 5: sixers turnovers.

1852
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 3: I think that's where we changed the matt up and

1853
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 3: put Smart Unembid.

1854
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, and he was able to draw a couple file.

1855
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 1: He was able to Smart was able to take advantage

1856
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 1: of that matchup defensively, you know, raising some hell and

1857
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 1: and creating that. That was a big shift in that game.

1858
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 1: And then you know, we ended with I believe we

1859
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 1: ended with It was Jason, Jalen, al Grant, Uh and

1860
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: Derek was the end lineup. I believe that that put

1861
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 1: the matchups, you know, embid head to decide who he

1862
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 1: was gonna, you know, be matched up with. And that

1863
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 1: was kind of like our five out lineup because we

1864
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:32,759
Speaker 1: had five guys that were skilled, could pass, cat shoot

1865
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: him and changed.

1866
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 3: I think that changed the momentum of the game a

1867
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 3: little bit, it really did.

1868
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 5: And then and JT was getting downhill all third seventeen,

1869
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 5: just in the third alone, like attacking the rim, getting fouled, uh,

1870
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 5: just really taking over. And then of course wouldn't be

1871
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 5: a Celtic Sixers game without a little scuffle.

1872
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 2: Baby. We got smart and Inmbeid going at it.

1873
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's why you put the match up

1874
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 1: there is you know, smart and take advantage of those moments.

1875
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 4: Yep.

1876
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 2: And then in the fourth really opened up that lead

1877
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 2: and came out of this by.

1878
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 1: One on the fourth though, I know, but but it's

1879
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: the grace of winning the third, yes, you know. And

1880
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 1: so yeah, that's the margins, the margins we had how

1881
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:09,679
Speaker 1: many turnover was did we force in the third quarter.

1882
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 2: Of six five five scored on all of them.

1883
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you forced five live ball turnovers and you score

1884
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 1: on that that can change the game.

1885
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 5: And then you look back to the whole game, like

1886
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 5: coach was saying, and the Margins won the fast break

1887
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 5: scoring advantage twenty four to two, which is massive.

1888
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:24,640
Speaker 3: But what was the points off turnovers?

1889
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 2: Oh?

1890
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 5: Points off turnovers? Ours were twenty two twenty two to fifteen.

1891
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so they weren't necessarily fast break points as

1892
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 1: much as they were like points off our defense, Like,

1893
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 1: you know, so that's huge.

1894
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 5: And then end up winning this thing one twenty five

1895
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 5: one seventeen thirty five apiece from Jalen and JB.

1896
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 2: That's huge. First thought that comes to your mind after

1897
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 2: getting your first win in the NBA of your childhood

1898
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 2: freaking team in the garden, Like, what's that first thought?

1899
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 3: I don't suck as much as I thought.

1900
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 2: Happily miserable? Is that bug is deadly miserable? That was

1901
01:19:59,560 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 2: really it.

1902
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,640
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I didn't like, I remember I

1903
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,600
Speaker 1: remember my dad's voice, like, don't fuck this up. I

1904
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I didn't fuck it up too bad? No,

1905
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 1: got a shot at this thing. Yeah, yeah, you remembered

1906
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 1: your dad's voice. Yeah, don't fuck it up man, that's awesome.

1907
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 5: Aftermath in February, the interim tag was removed was awesome,

1908
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 5: rightfully so. Celtics winning the season series against Philly three

1909
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 5: to one. Beat Philly in the second round of the playoffs.

1910
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 5: Epic seven game series made the playoffs for this ninth

1911
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 5: consecutive season. We did upset by Miami in the Eastern

1912
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 5: Conference Finals in seven games less. Fast forward to twenty

1913
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:40,759
Speaker 5: twenty three, twenty twenty four, raised Banner eighteen beating Dallas

1914
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 5: four to one.

1915
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 2: Baby brought that Larry O'Brien trophy back home. I mean

1916
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 2: this some could say this is the start of the

1917
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 2: new generation Celtics. This specific game. That's how important this

1918
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 2: specific game could, yep, be considered. Tell people what it's

1919
01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 2: like to win a ship entitled town. To me, it is.

1920
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 1: You feel that you feel the responsibility to the city, uh,

1921
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: to the people, but really to the players. And there's

1922
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 1: so many people in the organization that do so much

1923
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: that people don't know about and.

1924
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 2: Staff, the lunch ladies, yeah, the people that let you

1925
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:24,600
Speaker 2: in the facility, people parking lady, the parking people, the

1926
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 2: people that clean up after you.

1927
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,440
Speaker 1: But also the business side, right, people in the business,

1928
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: and so I think it's a culmination of uh, gratitude

1929
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 1: for everybody involved and and you know, to the city,

1930
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 1: but for me it's it's uh you know, my my

1931
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 1: priest sent me a text the day of the parade

1932
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 1: and me and Luke Cornett talked about this. Winning the

1933
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 1: parade is very similar to Palm Sunday. It's not Easter,

1934
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, and Palm Sunday is is it puts you

1935
01:21:58,840 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: now now it gets harder.

1936
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 2: Palm Sunday is the week before Easter. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1937
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:03,839
Speaker 2: and then you got ash Wednesday.

1938
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no Friday, aginning, you got Palm Sunday, Good Friday,

1939
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 1: Holy Thursday, good Friday, and then Easter. And so winning

1940
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 1: is like Palm Sunday because you're waiting for that next

1941
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:17,680
Speaker 1: Easter it may or may not come. That that's the

1942
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 1: space of like happily miserable, of duality of there's the

1943
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 1: people and the players, and then there's like that space

1944
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 1: between Palm Sunday and Easter. And all all we're doing

1945
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:32,640
Speaker 1: now is we're in that space of that week of

1946
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 1: trying to get back to Easter. And you gotta do it,

1947
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 1: but you may not, may not may stop a good Friday.

1948
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 2: He may not come.

1949
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 1: It may stop a good Friday, and you fight like

1950
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 1: hell to to make sure you get another one. I mean,

1951
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 1: when that horn went off, that's the only thing I

1952
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: thought about, how we're going to do this again?

1953
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 3: What do we have to do? And not in an

1954
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 3: unhealthy way. I think.

1955
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 1: You know, you live in a space of like I

1956
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 1: don't know how long I'm gonna do this, but for

1957
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 1: however long, that has to be the focus. It's got

1958
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 1: to be the relationships to people. And it's got to

1959
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 1: be like how do we get back to Easter Sunday again?

1960
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 1: And you just have to constantly think about that every day.

1961
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 2: You ain't got to explain yourself to here people. You know,

1962
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 2: people don't understand when you're in the grind of trying

1963
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 2: to chase your dreams, and once you get your dreams,

1964
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 2: you recalibrate your dreams, like you don't have time to

1965
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 2: sit back and say, man, this is cool. You don't

1966
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 2: like you don't get time to enjoy it. People that

1967
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 2: are successful as certain things, they can say they enjoy it,

1968
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 2: but if they're having a long sustained career in something,

1969
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 2: it's hard to enjoy it. Like I didn't enjoy my

1970
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 2: career until I retired because I was in the heat

1971
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 2: of it. After each year, whether you win, you're you're

1972
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 2: more stressed because you have to reinvent yourself. You lose

1973
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 2: your fucking pissed off the whole time from not winning,

1974
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 2: and you still got to reinvent yourself and you have

1975
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 2: to still reinvent yourself. How many years did you play?

1976
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 2: Twelve twelve years is not much.

1977
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 1: And comparatively speaking into your life, no, without a doubt,

1978
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 1: and so like it's not unhew healthy to live in

1979
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 1: that space for ten twelve years.

1980
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 2: It's a balance.

1981
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 3: People.

1982
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 1: Family are important, but so is going after greatness. And

1983
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: there's no trajectory as to what it's going to look like,

1984
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 1: you know, Like you know, that's the perspective that we

1985
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 1: talked about. Do I think we'll get another one, Absolutely,

1986
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 1: we have to. But the spurs one to five over

1987
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 1: the course of ten years, you know, the eighty one

1988
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 1: team took eighty two and eighty three and all that

1989
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 1: pain to come back in eighty four, you know. And

1990
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 1: so it's just this journey that we're on together. And

1991
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 1: you got about a ten to fifteen year window in

1992
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:36,600
Speaker 1: life to do something to really go after something and

1993
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 1: you got to do it for however, you know you

1994
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 1: got to you gotta do it.

1995
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 2: You gotta do it. Let's great the game, coach got

1996
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:45,679
Speaker 2: me ready to run so far all let's name the game.

1997
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 2: These are some names we came up with. If you

1998
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:51,639
Speaker 2: haven't suggestion, you can you can give us the suggestion,

1999
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 2: of course. The first one is the sweetest Joe's First Game,

2000
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:02,839
Speaker 2: the Joe Opener. This one's jo the Jopener. This one's

2001
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 2: for Bill because Bill Russell rp.

2002
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, that one you didn't have to finish the

2003
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 1: rest of This one's for Bill. This one's for Bill.

2004
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:11,639
Speaker 4: What did Bill Russell mean to the Celtis organization?

2005
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,639
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, Like you realize what he means.

2006
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:16,640
Speaker 1: And then you hear about Jalen talk about what he

2007
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 1: means from a from a off the court perspective, and

2008
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,599
Speaker 1: he sets the tone. Uh, he sets the standard of

2009
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:27,799
Speaker 1: what it's like to be a Celtic. I've so enjoyed

2010
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 1: what listening to Jalen talk about how he's impacted him

2011
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 1: and and uh, you know how he's impacted the game.

2012
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 1: And it's been great to see the relationship that Red

2013
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 1: and Bill have had but it's also in to see

2014
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 1: from Celtic City. Like you know, this goes back to

2015
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 1: what we talked about the beginning of like you only

2016
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 1: remember the good things, Like it wasn't always easy for him,

2017
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't always easy for teammates. Like his teammates,

2018
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 1: they they argued, they felt a certain way about each other,

2019
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 1: They had good times in bad times. There's the picture

2020
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: of Bill sitting in the ice tub reading his critics

2021
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 1: in the newspaper, Like the criticism was always there the episode.

2022
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 1: There are no final victories. That's the space between Palm

2023
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 1: Sunny and Easter is like it's never going to be

2024
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 1: good enough. And even a guy as good as him,

2025
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: he felt that and that's never going to go away.

2026
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 1: And so he just is an example of so many

2027
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 1: different things that you can look back onto as a

2028
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 1: Celtic but also as a person.

2029
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 2: The greats they all have one thing. They have the

2030
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 2: ability to compartmentalize like no other. That's something that like

2031
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 2: Tom Brady I noticed, you notice from him, like whatever

2032
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 2: was going on in his life, how he was at work,

2033
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 2: was it was work time.

2034
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not always that's that That space is difficult though,

2035
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 1: because then you just feel nothing. No, you're you're essentially

2036
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 1: a serial killer. Ye, no, you are. You are, And

2037
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:46,600
Speaker 1: like you drag your wife and kids into it. You

2038
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 1: drag your family into won't get into that, but yes,

2039
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 1: you just dragged Like like, my wife is dragged into this.

2040
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 3: This is her life. But she loves it and I'm

2041
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 3: grateful for that.

2042
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 2: She's every great coach has a great wife.

2043
01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 1: And sit at the game with her. She's a fucking maniac.

2044
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 1: Maniac off to sit in the game. Actually pretty awesome

2045
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 1: to watch. I'm actually it's actually really cool.

2046
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,639
Speaker 2: Is she from out here? She's from West Virginia, West Virginia.

2047
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 2: Let's go. You brought you brought someone? Dial below that

2048
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 2: that Macy Dixon line up here to the north. All buddy,

2049
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 2: let's score the game. Is this the greatest game of

2050
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 2: all time? Let's score it. Seventy six Ers versus the

2051
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 2: Celtics season opener, twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three

2052
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:35,560
Speaker 2: NBA season coach Missoula's first game as head coach of

2053
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 2: the Boston Celtics, stakes zero to ten. Decimal's okay, coach, I.

2054
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 1: Mean you stakes were pretty high. Would imagine you can't

2055
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 1: be an intern? And lose your first game. That's kind

2056
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 1: of your fucked Yeah, so.

2057
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 2: What are you gonna have? Zero to ten? Descis ten? Ten?

2058
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:49,440
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2059
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 2: I've never been in that situation. I don't know the

2060
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 2: coach's life, but I'll give it an eight.

2061
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 4: I like that.

2062
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 2: I want ohoh three point two? Man?

2063
01:27:58,520 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 4: What is my what do you do?

2064
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,520
Speaker 2: I'm Russian judging us. I'm tripping, geez louise.

2065
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 4: A five point one regular season game. Our perspective, your

2066
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 4: perspective obviously at ten.

2067
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, star power of the game, a lot of great.

2068
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 2: That's a ten ten?

2069
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 3: Ten?

2070
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:15,600
Speaker 2: We are we, coach? Are we all right? Ten? I

2071
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 2: will go look Jalen and Tatum, they weren't them yet.

2072
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 3: They combined for seventy points.

2073
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 2: I know, but we're talking in time and place in

2074
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 2: the in the era of where it was at. I'm

2075
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 2: gonna go with an eight point one. I went with

2076
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 2: an eight point nine.

2077
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 4: Let's go seven point nine.

2078
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 5: All I'm really kicking myself for that stake score. I'm sorry, coach,

2079
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 5: that's all right.

2080
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 2: The gameplay of this game, back and forth, how it

2081
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 2: was visually for the viewer, could be gameplay for you

2082
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 2: as a coach. How you had to coach situationally zero

2083
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 2: to ten decimals. Okay, I'll go eight and a half.

2084
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. It was an opener gameplay. Crowd was

2085
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 2: going cranking, go with it. Eight, we're all there names

2086
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 2: and ten the name is a ten, coach new I'm

2087
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 2: gonna go with the nine point five. It's it's the

2088
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 2: great one. We did a we did an autograph signing

2089
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 2: my rookie year with him.

2090
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 4: I got ja.

2091
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 5: I scored this before we knew what we decided on.

2092
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,719
Speaker 5: I'm got to give this a ten. Yeah, the greatest

2093
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:23,879
Speaker 5: winner of all time ten.

2094
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 4: At a one point eight. I want to change it

2095
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:31,759
Speaker 4: for eighteen championships. I'm gonna go for say, you know one, actually,

2096
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 4: you know what? Eight point one?

2097
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? I like that. Now, where does it stack up

2098
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 2: into the games we've done all time?

2099
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:41,640
Speaker 3: Was Patrick Waller goalie in that two thousand and one

2100
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:42,880
Speaker 3: broke Stanley Cove.

2101
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're doing that one tomorrow anyway.

2102
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was he the goalie.

2103
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Brenda Moore was the goalie for the doubles,

2104
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 1: the no Martin Berger Martin Brow.

2105
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember those two goalies. They were fucking that

2106
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 3: in incredible.

2107
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 1: So you're a hockey guy played NHL as a kid

2108
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 1: the Detroit Red Wings with my team.

2109
01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:00,599
Speaker 3: They had Chris Osgood and you know, but beween the pipes.

2110
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 3: He was big time. Everyone Chris was on that team.

2111
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 2: Was on that team.

2112
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 3: Nicholas Lindstrom was a hell of a defender.

2113
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 1: McCarty, Yeah, you know so, but I mean Martin Broda

2114
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 1: versus Patrick Wattan, you don't get a better game than that.

2115
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 4: Fighting Night at the Joe is one of our highest

2116
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 4: recommended game tomorrow. Just so you know, this will be

2117
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:21,920
Speaker 4: coming out way later tomorrow. Stanley Cup's coming here with

2118
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 4: Ray Bork. We're talking about that game. Yeah, over the moon.

2119
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 4: Who else was on that team?

2120
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 3: It was?

2121
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 1: It was a forward, you know, the I'll think about

2122
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 1: the Red Wings. The Red Wings had a forwards that

2123
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. I think he was a Russian guy.

2124
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 4: No, oh federal off, Yeah he was.

2125
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 3: He was big.

2126
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 2: You know your NHL head. Yeah, like sports, but I

2127
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 2: mean you always learn the rosters through playing the video game, Yeah,

2128
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 2: no question, Like that's how I know FIFA like soccer.

2129
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 2: Ye sick. We'll be right back after this quick break.

2130
01:30:59,160 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 2: Where'd the game at?

2131
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 4: Was an eight point one one? It puts us it's

2132
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 4: our new thirty fourth game overall, just behind the two

2133
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 4: thousand and seven Western Conference Playoffs game five Mad versus

2134
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 4: Warriors that we did with Mark Cuban, and then uh

2135
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:15,599
Speaker 4: Believe game. That's what we did with Russello, right, No,

2136
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:17,639
Speaker 4: this was the Davison Daron Davis.

2137
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:18,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, we Believe Warriors.

2138
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:20,679
Speaker 4: And then just ahead of the Avery real game Devils

2139
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 4: versus Rangers, they go, we did a Sean Avery.

2140
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 3: So thirty four it's not bad, it's not good.

2141
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 4: No regular season game, it's pretty good.

2142
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 2: And you can come on and you have plenty of

2143
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:29,679
Speaker 2: games that will score a lot higher.

2144
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 3: Malcolm Butler game.

2145
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 1: I was on a bus for Glenville State College driving

2146
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 1: back from a game, watching it on my phone when

2147
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 1: he got the interception, remember that one.

2148
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 3: I was sick Merracle on ice. That's a great movie.

2149
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 4: Low for fourth, but it's okay.

2150
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 3: I mean that's a great one.

2151
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 2: We stopped the Cold War snowball game. That was huge.

2152
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,160
Speaker 2: Snow Yeah, we did, you like, are your wrestling fan

2153
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:57,920
Speaker 2: w W? Yeah? Yeah, which ones we have.

2154
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 4: On Becky Lynch we did. We also do one with

2155
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 4: Sean Sean Michaels, the young Man.

2156
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 1: That match was insane. You don't have you don't have

2157
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 1: the Rock, you don't have the Astrodome. What was the

2158
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 1: wrestle manning at the Astrodome was at the Rock versus

2159
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 1: Stone Cold.

2160
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 4: See, so there are plenty of matchups that aren't on

2161
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 4: our list because we haven't done then yet.

2162
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:20,719
Speaker 2: These are all games that we've This is the games

2163
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:21,080
Speaker 2: that we've had.

2164
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 3: I think the Rock stone Cold at the Astrodome.

2165
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 2: One that was like that our age.

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01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 3: And then you have the Rock man kind on the

2167
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 3: on the just know.

2168
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:34,679
Speaker 1: The steel case cage. Yeah, the tax Yeah, I used

2169
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 1: to love that ship. I mean that was like, if

2170
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 1: you told me it wasn't real, I would I would

2171
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:38,640
Speaker 1: putch you.

2172
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 2: In the face. I guess suspended for giving a sucket

2173
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 2: signed to my teacher.

2174
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, who didn't been there? We've all been there.

2175
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 1: X Poc was one of my favorite x pock with

2176
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 1: the Rodeo because he was small. Yeah, he was fucking awesome.

2177
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 2: X Poc was huge, Coach, did we miss anything from

2178
01:32:57,240 --> 01:32:57,639
Speaker 2: this game?

2179
01:32:57,840 --> 01:32:57,920
Speaker 5: No?

2180
01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:00,120
Speaker 3: Game was the worst part about today.

2181
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:05,720
Speaker 2: This game's fucking awesome. We in Boston are are very

2182
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 2: extremely happy and excited to have you as our head coach.

2183
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:12,680
Speaker 2: It's a person from the community. You know, it's amazing

2184
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,600
Speaker 2: you've gone out and you've had great success early on

2185
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 2: in your career and you look to learn to get

2186
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 2: it to continue it. Like you're constantly learning. That's something

2187
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 2: that I've always felt when I've talked to you in

2188
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:29,720
Speaker 2: our conversations. Hasn't been many, but you're always on like

2189
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:32,559
Speaker 2: the hunt to learn. You're always trying to take something

2190
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 2: from someone to help your team. And I think, man,

2191
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:37,800
Speaker 2: it's it's been a pleasure to get to know you.

2192
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 2: Thank you, and I appreciate you coming on here.

2193
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, thanks for paving the way with the success

2194
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 1: you've had as a player. And I've said all the time,

2195
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 1: like the people before us, because they've won, they've made

2196
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 1: this job what it is. And the best compliment in

2197
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 1: the gift that you have is coaching in Boston, coaching

2198
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 1: the Celtics, coaching for the responsibility in the ownership of

2199
01:33:56,960 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 1: going after championships every year. But also I think just

2200
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 1: as important as that is trying to take on the

2201
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 1: identity of the city and take on the identity of

2202
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 1: what it means to be an athlete or a person

2203
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 1: in Boston and what it means to be a competitor

2204
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:11,919
Speaker 1: for the Celtics.

2205
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 2: Those two things. Every day I wake up.

2206
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm grateful for that, you know, because I don't know

2207
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 1: how long it's going to last, but for however long

2208
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:19,320
Speaker 1: it does, you got to make sure we try to

2209
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,840
Speaker 1: leave it in a better place. And I think, you know,

2210
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 1: credit to our former ownership of Wicked PAGs is they

2211
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 1: got it and they left it in a better place.

2212
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:29,800
Speaker 1: And I'm thankful to them for giving the opportunity. And

2213
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:32,679
Speaker 1: then now we have you know, new ownership and Bill

2214
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 1: and and Wick and and you know they'll look to

2215
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:37,480
Speaker 1: do the same thing. And it's just the ultimate responsibility.

2216
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 1: So I'm forever grateful to the city and to people

2217
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 1: like you've, you know, paved the way for us.

2218
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 2: Oh Man.

2219
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 5: From a fan perspective, Coach, thank you for everything you do. Man,

2220
01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 5: I look up to you.

2221
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 2: I love you.

2222
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:49,680
Speaker 5: You've given me some of my best sports memories of

2223
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 5: all time, So Jack, thank you you guys. I was

2224
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 5: at Game five with Sam and I think a lot

2225
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 5: of us are best memories in life revolved around sports,

2226
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 5: and they do.

2227
01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 2: That's right up there at the tippy tippy top.

2228
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:00,200
Speaker 3: So we got creating.

2229
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:03,679
Speaker 2: Forever grateful for you. More. Yes, let's create more. Everyone

2230
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 2: go check them out. Boston Celtics mindset is gonna be

2231
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 2: on fire this year. Let's go and thank you coach

2232
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:15,479
Speaker 2: Joe Missoula. Thanks brother man a white whale guest for me.

2233
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 2: He's he's got a mindset. I'm excited to watch him

2234
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 2: continue his coaching career. Me too. And I feel like

2235
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 2: I'm a little more invested to the Celtics now because

2236
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 2: I'm rooting for him.

2237
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 5: Oh, me too. Like I would run through a wall

2238
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 5: for Joe. I'd go to battle for Joe. I'd go

2239
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:31,559
Speaker 5: to the depths of hell for Joe.

2240
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 2: I do.

2241
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 5: I'm a Joe guy, and that would just put it

2242
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 5: over the top. Took it to a whole other level.

2243
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 5: And there's kind of this weird We talked about it

2244
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 5: a little bit, but when you don't win the ship

2245
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:44,320
Speaker 5: and when the season comes up short and it feels

2246
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 5: like a failure, like me as a fan, he going

2247
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 5: to kind of more like You're like, it's a weird

2248
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. The whole offseason is just

2249
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 5: a bummer. But hearing from Joe and his positivity and

2250
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 5: his mindset and a tenacity like I'm back.

2251
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 2: Baby needed that miserable. He loves it. He loves it.

2252
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 2: We just sent him like fifteen new hoodies.

2253
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna start to that's.

2254
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 2: A happily miserable.

2255
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 5: We got it over that big time. That's a joe.

2256
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:13,599
Speaker 5: He loves that. Doing a happily miserable segment. Maybe every

2257
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 5: once in a while we can talk about the things

2258
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 5: that makes us happy that we're miserable about.

2259
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 2: Well, let's let's let's pump the breaks boys.

2260
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 4: Cheez, it's a.

2261
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:23,639
Speaker 5: Three sixty situation. See, the segment will help us sell merch.

2262
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:24,599
Speaker 5: The merch will help us.

2263
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:29,640
Speaker 2: Let's just pump the breaks. Okay, it's time. You know

2264
01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 2: what it's time for. It's time for the Chill Zone,

2265
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:33,879
Speaker 2: brought to you by Cores Like get cools Light delivered

2266
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 2: straight to your door. Visit coreslight dot com, slash g

2267
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 2: w N and celebrate responsibly.

2268
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 5: It's pretty cool. He opened it with one hand like that. Cheers, Bubba.

2269
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:50,519
Speaker 5: You've never done that. My decksterity not quite that good.

2270
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm a two hinder. That's like, I

2271
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:57,640
Speaker 2: don't know. That just feels white trash to me.

2272
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:00,360
Speaker 5: You just be like, now it feels like that's like

2273
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:03,559
Speaker 5: your little Texan guy coming out your reach over, grab

2274
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 5: you court.

2275
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 2: I think that was like how one of like my

2276
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:12,760
Speaker 2: uncle's friends used to open the beer. He was the man. No,

2277
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 2: he was complete degenerate. Sounds like my kind of guy. Yeah,

2278
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:20,680
Speaker 2: we were. I think we were at like my grandma's trailers.

2279
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:22,639
Speaker 2: Let's get into this though.

2280
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:25,760
Speaker 5: Since this episode was all about the Celtics and there's

2281
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 5: this there's this great bond between athletes, especially in Boston,

2282
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 5: we want to pull back the curtain a little bit

2283
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 5: and talk to you, Jules about what it's like to

2284
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 5: hang out with other pro athletes from other sports, within

2285
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 5: your sport, around the league, just everywhere.

2286
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 2: In that kind of bond you guys have.

2287
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 5: When you're yourself are a pro athlete, how those friendships

2288
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 5: are made, how they're maintained, Just kind of kind of

2289
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 5: get a sense of how it is because you know,

2290
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 5: as a fan, you wonder, is that guy really budgs with?

2291
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:53,719
Speaker 5: That Guy's that guy you know like and it's it's

2292
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 5: I think it's especially cool in Boston.

2293
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, early in my career, I would

2294
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 2: see Veritek got a lot of like charity pet colts

2295
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 2: I never really saw Padoya always wanted to. I mean

2296
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 2: we I used his bat and batting practice, laser show,

2297
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 2: Laser show, laser show. Uh so that was like my

2298
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 2: my red Sox. And then I used to hang out

2299
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 2: with what's his name, Gabe Napoli. Napoli, you know, we

2300
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 2: used to like it's in those days. We would see

2301
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 2: each other at local bars. That's when Daisy Buchans was

2302
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 2: still around, and that was like legendary spot. That was

2303
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 2: a legendary spot and so you would see a lot

2304
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:32,679
Speaker 2: of guys there. And then we go to I remember

2305
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:35,640
Speaker 2: going to like this Chinese restaurant after hours and I

2306
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:40,680
Speaker 2: would see Baby Davis and a lot of the Celtics there. Baby,

2307
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 2: you'd go there and I'm not going to say the

2308
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 2: name of the establishment, but all you had to do

2309
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 2: is ask for cold tea and they give you a

2310
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:50,720
Speaker 2: bucket of beer after two. So like that's where I

2311
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:51,519
Speaker 2: would see a lot of.

2312
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 4: This hold on. So you're at the club, you're at

2313
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:54,959
Speaker 4: a bar at something, and you see like the Celtics

2314
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 4: guys over there. How does that like does someone go up?

2315
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:00,960
Speaker 4: Do you like guys wreck as each other? Like like

2316
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:02,760
Speaker 4: is it just like a head nod or like, how

2317
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:03,840
Speaker 4: does that actually go down?

2318
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:06,760
Speaker 2: It depends because like, I don't. I wasn't. I was

2319
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 2: still young. Then I became closer with Like I met

2320
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown a few times a game and hang out.

2321
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 2: We hung out a couple of times, and the old

2322
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 2: the newer Celtics, the older one. I was still too

2323
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:21,439
Speaker 2: young in my prime and I didn't live in the

2324
01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 2: city yet, so that was early on my career. I

2325
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:25,760
Speaker 2: would come into the city. When I moved to the city,

2326
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:28,439
Speaker 2: that's when I started hanging out more like nap and

2327
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:31,400
Speaker 2: you know, a couple of Celtics. I would see them.

2328
01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:33,640
Speaker 2: I went and spent time with them at their facility,

2329
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:37,040
Speaker 2: so I got to know them a little. I hung

2330
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:40,479
Speaker 2: out with the Bruins when we were young Segs Thornton.

2331
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:44,839
Speaker 2: I would see me Lan. We would have beer chugging

2332
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:48,600
Speaker 2: contests at Demonica's anytime Loocher's around. It was just like

2333
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:53,599
Speaker 2: we're chugging beers those guys. You know. It always happened

2334
01:39:53,640 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 2: at like either a charity event or at local establishments.

2335
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 2: You go to Southis, you'd see some of the Bruins

2336
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:12,679
Speaker 2: out and then nowadays it's simply because of social Yeah,

2337
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:15,800
Speaker 2: I mean, now you could we both follow each other

2338
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:18,719
Speaker 2: and something you you comment on a story, they comment

2339
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:20,719
Speaker 2: on one of yours, and that's how you stay in touch.

2340
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 2: So that's like the cool thing about it. Uh, you know,

2341
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 2: you can still stay in touch with guys via social

2342
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:30,959
Speaker 2: without even having to talk to them. But like athlete

2343
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:34,720
Speaker 2: friendship is also different. Friendship like I could like I

2344
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:37,640
Speaker 2: didn't I haven't seen you know, example, I go to

2345
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 2: Cardonia's wedding. I haven't seen Ryan Allen in seven years

2346
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 2: since he left, and you know, we see each other.

2347
01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 2: It's like we haven't not seen each other, didn't miss

2348
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 2: the seven years and didn't miss a beat. And it's

2349
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:52,080
Speaker 2: like that because you understand when you're a professional athlete

2350
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:55,960
Speaker 2: that like your life is pretty much predicated around your

2351
01:40:56,000 --> 01:41:00,439
Speaker 2: your sports schedule and the times that you do cross

2352
01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:03,879
Speaker 2: paths with other guys. You enjoy those times, but sometimes

2353
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:06,640
Speaker 2: you just don't have time to like, hey man, what

2354
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:08,679
Speaker 2: do you know? What are you doing here there that

2355
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:12,800
Speaker 2: you know? So you know? And then Celtics games. You

2356
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 2: go to Celtics games and there'd always be I used

2357
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:16,599
Speaker 2: to go to I think I went to a Celtics

2358
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:19,760
Speaker 2: game with bradmorshawan once with Duly Coo. Yeah, the same

2359
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 2: as Mars Gronk used to go a lot with them. Uh,

2360
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 2: you would see some of the Celtics or you would

2361
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 2: see you'd see all the Celtics. You would see some

2362
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:28,719
Speaker 2: of the Red Sox.

2363
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:31,840
Speaker 4: If you're going to like let's say you're going to

2364
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:35,600
Speaker 4: a Celtics game with whoever, are you interacting with the

2365
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 4: Celtics like after or before or like like because they

2366
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:40,680
Speaker 4: if the Celtics, Oh, we know that's a Patriots guy.

2367
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 2: You connect or something. It's ahead nod. Let I know

2368
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 2: they're working. Yeah, you know, I remember when you know

2369
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:50,760
Speaker 2: you have people at the game and you know, like

2370
01:41:51,160 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 2: this is their job, you know. I like what's up?

2371
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 2: Adapt maybe you know, maybe an inner joke with Jalen

2372
01:41:58,200 --> 01:41:59,680
Speaker 2: I love when jab comes DAPs you up?

2373
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:02,960
Speaker 4: How does that when you were a football player, because

2374
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:05,479
Speaker 4: so far removed from the state, Like are you ever

2375
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 4: noticing guys that are in town or people?

2376
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:10,639
Speaker 2: You know what you would see because like after teams

2377
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 2: would win, they would come and we'd had cool like

2378
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 2: they would wear like a Patriot jersey or in Boston

2379
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:18,720
Speaker 2: Celtics jersey or a Bruins like there was a lot

2380
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 2: of those types of things where you would go to

2381
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:23,920
Speaker 2: their games. We dropped pucks, we threw first pitches, and

2382
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:26,840
Speaker 2: they would come to our games to be honored before

2383
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 2: the game or at halftime or something like that. And

2384
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 2: it's different. I was never like a key, key kind

2385
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:37,720
Speaker 2: of guy before a game, like like you know, yeah,

2386
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:41,519
Speaker 2: but buddy, yeah, we weren't doing that. I wasn't. At

2387
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 2: least I would give a head nod or something. But

2388
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 2: I had to like mentally put myself in a different

2389
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:50,880
Speaker 2: place to to go out and perform. Like I didn't.

2390
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:54,160
Speaker 2: Like even McAfee talks about it. Like when I used

2391
01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:56,720
Speaker 2: to like look at the other punters, I was trying

2392
01:42:56,760 --> 01:43:00,280
Speaker 2: to intimidate them like I wanted I would go right

2393
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:05,480
Speaker 2: next to them, like watching I loved like the pregame

2394
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 2: psychological battles, you know, like or or like looking at

2395
01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:13,920
Speaker 2: a dB a certain way like I played with some

2396
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:15,600
Speaker 2: of those day. Fuck that not today, you know what

2397
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:18,280
Speaker 2: I mean. That's that's how I saw guys do it.

2398
01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 2: That's how I was kind of told to approach it,

2399
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:24,360
Speaker 2: and then that's how I developed it. But getting back

2400
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 2: to other athletes, you know it, we were talking with Joe,

2401
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:33,759
Speaker 2: it's pretty cool to get to play for this city.

2402
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:37,320
Speaker 2: Like it's insanely cool to get to play for Boston

2403
01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:42,240
Speaker 2: and have this part of your identity because it's such

2404
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:48,040
Speaker 2: a huge pivotal sport identity like this. This could be like,

2405
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:50,640
Speaker 2: you know, New York's a big market this that, but

2406
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 2: like this is a huge crazy like pro sport town

2407
01:43:56,840 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 2: where they've had but they've all got to taste success. Well,

2408
01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:02,600
Speaker 2: all being good, was.

2409
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:05,880
Speaker 4: There a been like a sibling rivalry between the sports

2410
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 4: in a city like Boston, Like, oh, they want a

2411
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:09,519
Speaker 4: championship more recently, that's we got to go out and

2412
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:11,479
Speaker 4: do it, Like, is there anything of that? Friendly?

2413
01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 2: Friendly? It was never like fuck DMN, yeah they wanted.

2414
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 2: It was more like may motivation, fucking Bruins just want one.

2415
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:20,760
Speaker 2: Let's go get one. That was our time. Yeah, that's

2416
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:22,519
Speaker 2: our time. I saw that damn parade. It look pretty

2417
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:25,040
Speaker 2: damn fun because you know, the Bruins won right before

2418
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:27,879
Speaker 2: I we won I think was eleven or twelve eleven,

2419
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:30,360
Speaker 2: and then three years later we won our first really

2420
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:33,559
Speaker 2: in the first and ten years for the Patriots, so

2421
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:35,240
Speaker 2: people were kind of forgetting about us, you know, the

2422
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:39,560
Speaker 2: Red Sox, you know what I mean. And then the

2423
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:44,200
Speaker 2: Celts had eight, so like there is a time where

2424
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:48,719
Speaker 2: it's a motivation factor that everyone had one except us,

2425
01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:53,240
Speaker 2: as in the Patriots, and even the Patriots before our

2426
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:57,599
Speaker 2: time had one, so individually for that and like era team,

2427
01:44:57,720 --> 01:45:00,840
Speaker 2: it was like, Yo, I'm sick and already hearing about

2428
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:04,000
Speaker 2: these fucking old Patriots. I'm sick and tired of hearing

2429
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,519
Speaker 2: about we're the only ones without a ship. Like that's

2430
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:08,320
Speaker 2: the kind of shit how I used it. At least

2431
01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:09,880
Speaker 2: I can't speak for everyone.

2432
01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:11,559
Speaker 4: So taking it outside of Boston, you kind of mentioned

2433
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 4: it slightly earlier, How does it? How do you like

2434
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 4: meet other players in the league if you didn't ever

2435
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:20,120
Speaker 4: like play with them or like being in high school

2436
01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 4: with them or callegs with them, how do you meet

2437
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:22,080
Speaker 4: those guys?

2438
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:25,040
Speaker 2: Early in my career would be like word of mouth

2439
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:30,320
Speaker 2: type stuff teammate of a teammate now social media, but

2440
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:33,360
Speaker 2: I remember early in my career, you know, Larry Fitzgerald

2441
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:36,800
Speaker 2: used to hold this camp in the off season for receivers.

2442
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 2: Is like one of the first, Like you know there's

2443
01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:41,320
Speaker 2: tight End University. Larry was doing that kind of stuff,

2444
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:45,040
Speaker 2: you know, twenty years ago, fifteen years ago, where you know,

2445
01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:48,280
Speaker 2: a bunch of receivers would go there, big name guys

2446
01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 2: and then you know, I was going into like my

2447
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:54,000
Speaker 2: second or third year, and I you know, I heard

2448
01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 2: I got Charlie Fry used to go throw with them.

2449
01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:59,759
Speaker 2: So I asked, Charlie if I go. Larry said, no problem,

2450
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 2: come and so like we went and had like a

2451
01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:05,599
Speaker 2: training seminar for like a week together where I went

2452
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 2: and trained, We'd run routes and like, yeah, that was

2453
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 2: just word of mouth, and that was through a teammate.

2454
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:16,120
Speaker 2: You know. Now it's it's really easy, you know, just

2455
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 2: all you got to do is tap in. You can

2456
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:23,160
Speaker 2: get to anyone and say, man, hey, love your game,

2457
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:24,759
Speaker 2: you know, or something like that.

2458
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:28,559
Speaker 4: Are there any like off season like congregation points, like oh,

2459
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:30,280
Speaker 4: a lot of guys go to La to train, or

2460
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:31,959
Speaker 4: a lot of guys go to like, you know, Arizona

2461
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:32,800
Speaker 4: to train in that week.

2462
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:35,680
Speaker 2: So a lot of the there's like usually there's like

2463
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:40,680
Speaker 2: five hubs early. You know, back in my day it

2464
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 2: was like Arizona like and the off season, guys would

2465
01:46:43,479 --> 01:46:45,320
Speaker 2: chase the Sun want to be able to train and

2466
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 2: work out in Sun or in their hometowns. A lot

2467
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:49,880
Speaker 2: of guys come from the South. You know, a lot

2468
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:52,840
Speaker 2: of guys come from South Florida. So South Florida was

2469
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:56,679
Speaker 2: a big one. The Tampa there was like training facilities there.

2470
01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:59,599
Speaker 2: It was like the APIs the EXOSS, and there's these

2471
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:03,040
Speaker 2: other ones that were coming. They'd be South Florida, there'd

2472
01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:04,960
Speaker 2: be one in Texas. There'd be guys that go to

2473
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:08,960
Speaker 2: Texas somewhere either Austin or or Houston or Dallas. There'd

2474
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 2: be a group of people in Scottsdale. That's where Larry was,

2475
01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 2: so that's where I flew out too to do that

2476
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:17,439
Speaker 2: receiver camp. And then there was California group, which was

2477
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:22,080
Speaker 2: usually like LA. You know, there'd be usually guys in LA.

2478
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:24,840
Speaker 2: You get a lot of like transplant guys that would

2479
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:27,919
Speaker 2: come in for you know, three or four days.

2480
01:47:28,360 --> 01:47:28,519
Speaker 3: You know.

2481
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:31,520
Speaker 2: When I was training at API that turned into EXOS,

2482
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:34,240
Speaker 2: we would I would train there for like three months,

2483
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 2: but there'd always be new guys in and out because

2484
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 2: they do a commercial in LA, but they still need

2485
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:41,639
Speaker 2: to get their workouts in, so they'd come to API

2486
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:45,000
Speaker 2: get their workout in through and we'd jump into groups

2487
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:48,640
Speaker 2: and and and then we would train. And that was

2488
01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:50,599
Speaker 2: like some of the coolest stuff of about the off

2489
01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 2: season is when I would train and there'd be like

2490
01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 2: a group of guys TJ. Ward and and you know,

2491
01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:00,320
Speaker 2: I remember training a lot with him at Exo because

2492
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:03,680
Speaker 2: he was an l A guy. You know, That's how

2493
01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:06,880
Speaker 2: me and Am and Dola met training at at in

2494
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 2: l A.

2495
01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:09,480
Speaker 4: Sound was before you guys were teammates.

2496
01:48:09,120 --> 01:48:12,519
Speaker 2: Before we were teammates, you know, So we started training together.

2497
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:14,720
Speaker 2: There was a group of guys. You go to u

2498
01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:17,240
Speaker 2: c l A and there'd be a group of receivers

2499
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 2: and coaches out or not coaches, receivers and quarterbacks, they're

2500
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:24,400
Speaker 2: like coaches. They would run it and we'd you know,

2501
01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:27,680
Speaker 2: run routes and that was like a way to a compete.

2502
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:33,759
Speaker 2: B look at how other guys train, see like steel

2503
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:37,080
Speaker 2: techniques and and look at like movements because like we

2504
01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:40,679
Speaker 2: didn't have Instagram like what it was now or TikTok

2505
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:42,639
Speaker 2: on what it is now, where you could see how

2506
01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:45,880
Speaker 2: everyone trains. Like we would all like congregate to like

2507
01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:48,760
Speaker 2: u c l A use their practice fields. There'd be

2508
01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:50,400
Speaker 2: a group of guy I remember Odell would come out.

2509
01:48:50,439 --> 01:48:55,760
Speaker 2: There'd be those group of guys. Uh TJ. Houshman Z

2510
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:59,080
Speaker 2: OUTA used to come out so like you'd always have

2511
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 2: these guys the lay and then there would be transplant

2512
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:04,080
Speaker 2: guys that were here for training, and then everyone would

2513
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:06,360
Speaker 2: go there and run routes and that was I loved

2514
01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:08,920
Speaker 2: that stuff, you know. And then also you know, I

2515
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:10,960
Speaker 2: came out here, I came out to Or. I went

2516
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:13,240
Speaker 2: to LA because that's where Tom lived at the time

2517
01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:16,519
Speaker 2: and he trained, and so we would go to his

2518
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:20,920
Speaker 2: quarterback coach, Tom House, and I developed such a relationship

2519
01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:25,479
Speaker 2: with him that even when Tom was gone, I would

2520
01:49:25,479 --> 01:49:27,599
Speaker 2: go to Tom House because he had always had pro

2521
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 2: arms like I would throw with like Matt Stafford, I

2522
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:32,599
Speaker 2: would throw with Jared Goff. I would throw a lot

2523
01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:36,479
Speaker 2: with like the cast Matt Kasso. I threw with Carson

2524
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:39,040
Speaker 2: Palmer a bunch because he was in LA, but that

2525
01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:40,920
Speaker 2: was a different group. But like I would, I would

2526
01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:44,040
Speaker 2: go to where the arms were, the NFL arms, because

2527
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:46,519
Speaker 2: I wanted to catch live balls. I wanted to catch

2528
01:49:46,560 --> 01:49:49,840
Speaker 2: balls from guys that were throwing an NFL ball. You know,

2529
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:53,360
Speaker 2: JUG's machine's great, and that's great for like strengthening your hands,

2530
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:57,120
Speaker 2: but you know, the ball comes out differently when you're

2531
01:49:57,160 --> 01:50:00,639
Speaker 2: running full speed and it's coming off a live arm,

2532
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 2: and that that ultimately, for me, was my best way

2533
01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:05,880
Speaker 2: to prepare was running a lot of routes, so I

2534
01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:07,200
Speaker 2: would look for the arms.

2535
01:50:07,479 --> 01:50:08,960
Speaker 5: You can't go get a beer with a drugs gun

2536
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:12,599
Speaker 5: like you can Matthew Stafford afterwards, either exactly, I'll tell

2537
01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 5: you why that ball didn't hit the turf that day.

2538
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:16,840
Speaker 4: And how do those sessions work? Are they like or

2539
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:19,040
Speaker 4: what's the vibe? Are they kind of chummy or do

2540
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 4: they sometimes they get a little like competitive and a

2541
01:50:21,080 --> 01:50:23,240
Speaker 4: little bit like depends on who who's there or does

2542
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:26,680
Speaker 4: any rivalries exist into those things where like oh this

2543
01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:28,679
Speaker 4: guy beat us last playoff, you I'm going a little harder.

2544
01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:29,599
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have a little Now.

2545
01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 2: Which sessions are we talking workout sessions are throwing sessions?

2546
01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:34,839
Speaker 4: Well, explain me the difference.

2547
01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:37,479
Speaker 2: First, So you know, the workout session was literally at

2548
01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:40,640
Speaker 2: a workout facility. So you go to exos and you

2549
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:45,479
Speaker 2: do like your plometrics, your field work, your explosion work,

2550
01:50:45,520 --> 01:50:48,200
Speaker 2: weight room work, and then you would condition. That was

2551
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:51,679
Speaker 2: like like an hour workout that was like fast tempo,

2552
01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:54,800
Speaker 2: constant competition. That was great because you do like all

2553
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 2: these you know, change of direction, drills and you were

2554
01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:01,960
Speaker 2: racing guys, so like it it brought in you know,

2555
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:04,000
Speaker 2: it brought up the intensity. You know, you go do

2556
01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:06,200
Speaker 2: that by yourself. Yeah, you can be intense, but you're

2557
01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:10,200
Speaker 2: gonna you're adrenaline raises at least mind does when there's competition,

2558
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:13,280
Speaker 2: so you know it could fuck up your technique, but

2559
01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:18,040
Speaker 2: you're gonna be going hard. No, So you know, we

2560
01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:20,800
Speaker 2: would play against each other here and there, but like

2561
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:23,160
Speaker 2: it was different in the offseason. We were all there

2562
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:26,679
Speaker 2: selfishly to get better, so like you could put it away.

2563
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 2: There was truth. There was truth, but like there was

2564
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:33,080
Speaker 2: also I mean there are times where guys would compete

2565
01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:35,360
Speaker 2: and guys would get up in each other's faces. You know,

2566
01:51:35,479 --> 01:51:40,120
Speaker 2: like that's anytime you have a fucking bunch of high strung,

2567
01:51:40,240 --> 01:51:45,240
Speaker 2: fucking professional athletes got these you know, we were all competitors,

2568
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:48,799
Speaker 2: So yeah, there would be shit talking in the weight room,

2569
01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:52,599
Speaker 2: like the weight and the workout ship usually our routes.

2570
01:51:52,760 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 2: Not really. It was kind of like it was kind

2571
01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 2: of like doing infield showing off, you know, like when

2572
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 2: you do infield baseball, and that was your way to

2573
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:02,360
Speaker 2: kind of swag out and show people.

2574
01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:05,160
Speaker 4: Courses before the Kentucky Derby to trot around.

2575
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:08,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like dout them all over the first you know,

2576
01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:13,080
Speaker 2: so guys would naturally compete through how they ran their

2577
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:17,120
Speaker 2: route and the smoothness of how they cut or their

2578
01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 2: explosion in and out of a break or they're selling

2579
01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:23,639
Speaker 2: of a double move route like that was their way

2580
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:26,719
Speaker 2: of like competing. We didn't have many one on ones,

2581
01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:29,800
Speaker 2: like I think now I see one on ones. It

2582
01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:34,840
Speaker 2: was there really just for conditioning and and and like

2583
01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:37,519
Speaker 2: route technique, you know what I mean.

2584
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:41,639
Speaker 4: Do you ever learn anything about like another player from

2585
01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:44,439
Speaker 4: those sessions that you brought back into the New England

2586
01:52:44,479 --> 01:52:46,680
Speaker 4: be like, hey, you know what, Carson Palmer, take a

2587
01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:48,320
Speaker 4: look at this, or this is this or you just

2588
01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:50,920
Speaker 4: that's not really the mentality that goes into those.

2589
01:52:51,520 --> 01:52:56,320
Speaker 2: You talk with guys. But you also like you wouldn't

2590
01:52:56,360 --> 01:52:59,679
Speaker 2: tell them everything. Yeah, if they were telling you everything,

2591
01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:06,559
Speaker 2: that's all on that. This ain't no patient client confidentiality. Amen,

2592
01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna help our team.

2593
01:53:09,720 --> 01:53:10,640
Speaker 4: So if you're planning.

2594
01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:19,400
Speaker 2: He said, you got no hippocratic oaths plas, you're at

2595
01:53:19,439 --> 01:53:20,760
Speaker 2: the point like it doesn't matter.

2596
01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:24,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're actually gonna learn in that moment. That's actually

2597
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:25,360
Speaker 4: gonna go to the next level.

2598
01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:27,640
Speaker 2: You can take little things like on how guys like

2599
01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:30,599
Speaker 2: cut in and out of breaks or how you know,

2600
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:36,320
Speaker 2: you know they would sell something, you know, head shoulder movements,

2601
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 2: you know, like that's the kind of shit you would take.

2602
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:44,000
Speaker 2: Stacking the ball, tracking the ball, uh, those types of things.

2603
01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:48,480
Speaker 4: Was there ever a session earlier in your career excluding

2604
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:51,320
Speaker 4: Tom that you were in one of those sessions and

2605
01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 4: you're kind of the slaptick and some like hot shot,

2606
01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:55,439
Speaker 4: like big swinging dick guy was there that you're like,

2607
01:53:55,479 --> 01:53:57,880
Speaker 4: oh my god, like Randy Moss or Jerry Rice is

2608
01:53:57,920 --> 01:53:59,160
Speaker 4: here or something like that that you got to learn

2609
01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:00,360
Speaker 4: a little bit from earlier career.

2610
01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:03,200
Speaker 2: There's one time, I think too showed up to one

2611
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:06,479
Speaker 2: of those U C. L A things, and you know, yeah,

2612
01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:08,880
Speaker 2: I was a slap dick at that time, but I

2613
01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:11,040
Speaker 2: I I went one hundred miles an hour always, I

2614
01:54:11,120 --> 01:54:14,360
Speaker 2: was always I really I would look at them and

2615
01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:17,400
Speaker 2: in awe. But you're in a point where you're like

2616
01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:20,519
Speaker 2: you're still working, right, Like that's how I I did?

2617
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 2: I you know, I I so, but you you'd watch

2618
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:27,120
Speaker 2: and used to go a lot lots of those TJ

2619
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:29,240
Speaker 2: used to go they were like the bigger name guy

2620
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:33,880
Speaker 2: like that, the more established guys. There were young guys

2621
01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:35,720
Speaker 2: that were bawling. Not that were there.

2622
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:38,840
Speaker 4: But wasn't like watching t O in person. Just his

2623
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:42,320
Speaker 4: like freakish like body size, but speed conbined, just like.

2624
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:45,520
Speaker 2: He was a little older. Yeah, but I mean he

2625
01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:48,800
Speaker 2: looked apart. He still looks apart. I mean he's a

2626
01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:51,600
Speaker 2: he's a he's a he's a freak. Yeah, he's a freak.

2627
01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:53,240
Speaker 2: He's a freak. He's a specimen.

2628
01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:56,240
Speaker 5: I got two four years jewels. Say you're out painting

2629
01:54:56,280 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 5: the picture here, not in your home city, and in Boston,

2630
01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:03,480
Speaker 5: maybe Miami, somewhere, out for a night out. You look

2631
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:06,000
Speaker 5: across the bar, you see a dude you battled, you

2632
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:09,680
Speaker 5: don't know him, maybe a jet and maybe an arrival.

2633
01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:12,120
Speaker 2: You battled with this guy. You look across the bar,

2634
01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:13,520
Speaker 2: you lock eyes.

2635
01:55:14,080 --> 01:55:16,160
Speaker 5: Then a conversation starts and you kind of bury the

2636
01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:17,960
Speaker 5: hatchet and break bread with each other.

2637
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:21,480
Speaker 2: Has that ever happened? I wouldn't say break bread, but

2638
01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:24,320
Speaker 2: you know, there's been a few of a better term. Sorry,

2639
01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 2: there's been a few times where you see a guy

2640
01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:28,440
Speaker 2: that you know you're not expecting to run into him

2641
01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:33,400
Speaker 2: out somewhere. Yeah, and you got you love competing against you. Yeah,

2642
01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:37,280
Speaker 2: definitely keep it moving type type, keep it moving. Yeah,

2643
01:55:37,360 --> 01:55:39,680
Speaker 2: I feel that. And then who looked at us differently though? Yeah,

2644
01:55:39,680 --> 01:55:42,080
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, it's beating out of everyone, you

2645
01:55:42,080 --> 01:55:43,520
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like you go to the you

2646
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:45,800
Speaker 2: go to Derby and the other teams there. We always

2647
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:48,440
Speaker 2: went after like we want a super Bowl and stuff. Yeah,

2648
01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 2: people looked at us probably like we're arrogant assholes a

2649
01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:54,560
Speaker 2: little bit, Hey, ayus because ainus? I don't know. Yeah, no,

2650
01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:56,640
Speaker 2: I feel that. And then my other one, but I

2651
01:55:56,720 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 2: used to be around a lot of the Bronco guys

2652
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:00,600
Speaker 2: because I saw I was with you know, I used

2653
01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:02,840
Speaker 2: to train with TJ. Ward and you know, you know

2654
01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 2: we battled again. Yeah, I was gonna say that it

2655
01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:09,040
Speaker 2: was always fun. It was always fun to just talk shit.

2656
01:56:09,480 --> 01:56:11,440
Speaker 2: I feel that. But like we there was a respect.

2657
01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:13,440
Speaker 2: I always respected guys that worked their ass off in

2658
01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:15,520
Speaker 2: the trail, like soft season. So if I didn't like you,

2659
01:56:15,560 --> 01:56:18,080
Speaker 2: but I saw you you working, I liked you.

2660
01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:19,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean.

2661
01:56:19,400 --> 01:56:21,520
Speaker 2: You can't knock the hustle. You can't knock hustle. You

2662
01:56:21,520 --> 01:56:23,480
Speaker 2: can't knock guys that are trying to get better as there.

2663
01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:26,520
Speaker 5: Ever, we talked a little bit earlier about the beauty

2664
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:28,680
Speaker 5: of social media with helping guys stay in touch and

2665
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 5: connecting and dudes you may have never crossed paths with

2666
01:56:32,120 --> 01:56:33,680
Speaker 5: just being able to hit him up with a click

2667
01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:36,640
Speaker 5: of a button. Have you ever gotten one of those

2668
01:56:36,680 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 5: guys giving you I like your game type vibe that

2669
01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:42,560
Speaker 5: like really meant something or major eyes light up when

2670
01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:44,760
Speaker 5: you got that message, like it came out of the blue.

2671
01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:47,879
Speaker 2: Not really, but I feel you, you know, Like Brandon

2672
01:56:47,920 --> 01:56:51,760
Speaker 2: Marshall when I first started working with him, he it

2673
01:56:51,880 --> 01:56:53,680
Speaker 2: kind of blew my mind out, Like you know, I

2674
01:56:53,680 --> 01:56:57,000
Speaker 2: don't know if he was fluffing me, but he was like, Jules,

2675
01:56:57,080 --> 01:57:01,240
Speaker 2: I love your game, your su like he Brandon Marshall

2676
01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 2: always used to hype me up, the original Glazer. I

2677
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:06,240
Speaker 2: like it. He's he knew how to charm me nice.

2678
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:07,120
Speaker 2: I like that.

2679
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:10,920
Speaker 4: He's also that prototypical like number one wide receiver kind

2680
01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:12,720
Speaker 4: of vibe. Yeah, yeah, that's right. I did it for

2681
01:57:12,760 --> 01:57:13,320
Speaker 4: a long time.

2682
01:57:13,880 --> 01:57:15,360
Speaker 2: Dude. At thirty one, I think he had like a

2683
01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:18,880
Speaker 2: hundred and something catches pro Bowl legend. He's he was

2684
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:21,640
Speaker 2: a monster people forget about you know, it sucks that

2685
01:57:22,480 --> 01:57:24,200
Speaker 2: he never played in a playoff game because he had

2686
01:57:24,240 --> 01:57:26,800
Speaker 2: such an elite career. He had a crazy career.

2687
01:57:26,640 --> 01:57:28,920
Speaker 4: And like he did it with the quarterbacks that were

2688
01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:30,280
Speaker 4: throwing it to him pretty consistently.

2689
01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:33,960
Speaker 2: He's like, wow, yeah, yeah, he's a large man. Oh yeah,

2690
01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:34,960
Speaker 2: b Marsh.

2691
01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:37,760
Speaker 4: Marsh's is a most size and personnality.

2692
01:57:38,000 --> 01:57:40,360
Speaker 2: But I think it's also even more like with the

2693
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:44,040
Speaker 2: players and friendships and stuff. Now it's it's to an

2694
01:57:44,080 --> 01:57:46,360
Speaker 2: all time high. Now, yeah, it's it's almost too much.

2695
01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:48,720
Speaker 2: Like you said, it's almost it's two k key, it's

2696
01:57:48,720 --> 01:57:51,000
Speaker 2: a little two key key. I'm with you. I don't

2697
01:57:51,040 --> 01:57:53,640
Speaker 2: like seeing it's weird to see as a as a fan.

2698
01:57:53,920 --> 01:57:56,440
Speaker 2: I want you to hate each like yeah, I mean

2699
01:57:56,440 --> 01:57:59,040
Speaker 2: it's kind of you gotta we have a responsibility, man,

2700
01:57:59,120 --> 01:58:01,240
Speaker 2: keep you like ww you guys could be boys in

2701
01:58:01,280 --> 01:58:03,560
Speaker 2: the off season and stuff, but like, at least, like

2702
01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:05,320
Speaker 2: we got to act like we hate each other. I

2703
01:58:05,320 --> 01:58:07,880
Speaker 2: don't keep up the illusion. You can't have let's say

2704
01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 2: you don't hate anything, Well, you ain't competing right then.

2705
01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:12,800
Speaker 5: You can't have the iron chic in the whole traveling

2706
01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:14,920
Speaker 5: to the event together everybody in the world sees them.

2707
01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:18,440
Speaker 2: The jig is up. It's up. I'm with you, you know.

2708
01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:21,880
Speaker 2: Macho man, Randy Savage and fucking Andre the Giant didn't

2709
01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:24,360
Speaker 2: like each other boo. They also showed that they didn't

2710
01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:26,240
Speaker 2: like each other in the ring either. Amen. I don't

2711
01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:27,640
Speaker 2: know where that Yeah, I just saw that was a

2712
01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:28,000
Speaker 2: great one.

2713
01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:32,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, so great segment. That was awesome. Was insightful audience.

2714
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:37,480
Speaker 4: More comments, voicemails of in depth things you wanted to

2715
01:58:37,480 --> 01:58:39,920
Speaker 4: find out about the life of a professional athlete. Please

2716
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:41,160
Speaker 4: let us know. The segment's awesome.

2717
01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:43,600
Speaker 2: The hockey guys you just got. You know. I went

2718
01:58:43,640 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 2: and visited one of my boys in Toronto, JPR and Cebia.

2719
01:58:47,240 --> 01:58:49,720
Speaker 2: He was a catcher, took VP with them out there

2720
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:52,880
Speaker 2: and ended up linking up with Sagan and the hockey guy.

2721
01:58:53,000 --> 01:58:58,000
Speaker 2: Those got hockey guys. It's fucking it. There are different breed.

2722
01:58:59,120 --> 01:59:02,640
Speaker 2: PK Suba like I hung out him, like these guys

2723
01:59:02,680 --> 01:59:05,240
Speaker 2: like they can go drink and then go like perform

2724
01:59:05,240 --> 01:59:07,360
Speaker 2: at a high level. It's insane, Bill Diffy.

2725
01:59:07,440 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 4: A lot of them have been doing like the professional

2726
01:59:09,800 --> 01:59:12,760
Speaker 4: routine when they're teenage yea right, not being at home

2727
01:59:12,880 --> 01:59:15,200
Speaker 4: on the road all the time, practice in school and

2728
01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:17,160
Speaker 4: this and always like learning it. And then they become

2729
01:59:17,240 --> 01:59:20,160
Speaker 4: pros at being pros early as.

2730
01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:21,680
Speaker 5: A great way to put it, they're pros pro And

2731
01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:23,920
Speaker 5: maybe just because my I'm back in Boston and my

2732
01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:27,280
Speaker 5: homerism is coming out. But what other city is a

2733
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:31,440
Speaker 5: NBA champion and two Super Bowl champions hood sliding out

2734
01:59:31,440 --> 01:59:33,240
Speaker 5: in LA together after years and years?

2735
01:59:33,240 --> 01:59:33,360
Speaker 6: What?

2736
01:59:33,600 --> 01:59:37,160
Speaker 2: Who else is doing that? Nobody but Boston Baby? Oh, Paul,

2737
01:59:37,720 --> 01:59:39,560
Speaker 2: I see him at work all the time, I say, Paul.

2738
01:59:39,560 --> 01:59:43,240
Speaker 2: We can't hang out, Paul, we can't hang out.

2739
01:59:44,320 --> 01:59:44,520
Speaker 5: Yay.

2740
01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:50,400
Speaker 2: Last time we hung out, Bill took my captain away.

2741
01:59:50,640 --> 01:59:53,400
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

2742
01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:57,040
Speaker 4: And if you want to know more about that story,

2743
01:59:57,080 --> 01:59:59,800
Speaker 4: there's eighteen other episodes you can refer to to get

2744
01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:01,280
Speaker 4: the to get the ending.

2745
02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:04,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not getting into you again. And that was

2746
02:00:04,320 --> 02:00:07,960
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Speaker 2: blue Baby, Well, what a game. What a start off

2750
02:00:26,880 --> 02:00:32,800
Speaker 2: to an awesome, awesome and hopefully continually awesome career for

2751
02:00:32,920 --> 02:00:36,760
Speaker 2: coach Missoula. Awesome to get to pick his his brain

2752
02:00:37,120 --> 02:00:39,760
Speaker 2: and understand him a little, even though I don't think

2753
02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:41,200
Speaker 2: we quite understand him yet.

2754
02:00:41,600 --> 02:00:43,720
Speaker 4: I don't think you might. You never understand.

2755
02:00:45,120 --> 02:00:49,520
Speaker 2: I like that layer though. I like a lot that oniony.

2756
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:52,440
Speaker 2: I like that onion. That's been another episode of Games

2757
02:00:52,480 --> 02:00:56,600
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2761
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Speaker 2: that reminds me of when you do that. I've been

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02:01:09,120 --> 02:01:13,240
Speaker 2: watching the pee Wee Herman doc. Incredible. It's very good.

2763
02:01:13,360 --> 02:01:16,760
Speaker 2: Bob Herman as a kid, me too, and that gives

2764
02:01:16,800 --> 02:01:18,520
Speaker 2: me peee vibes when you do that. Now that you

2765
02:01:18,520 --> 02:01:19,960
Speaker 2: say it, I'm gonna think that every time you're right.

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02:01:20,000 --> 02:01:20,800
Speaker 2: You're spot on a.

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02:01:22,280 --> 02:01:23,800
Speaker 4: Spot on next And she's friends with one of the

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Speaker 4: priusers of that she's been talking about for a year.

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