1 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Great to have you with us, Magic Fans for another 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: episode of Magic od Squad. This time we have the 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: opportunity to catch up with the Magic Legend where Shard Lewis, 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: you helped get this team to the two thousand and 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: nine NBA file. 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: Magic Fans, the. 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Florida Department of Transportation reminds you that fans don't let 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: fans drive drug. If you've been drinking, don't get behind 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: the wheel. Instead, find the sober driver or catch a 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: right sirs. Remember drive sober or get pulled over. Have 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: a great night and drive safe. All lots to get 12 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: into here with Rashard Lewis, including that run to the 13 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine NBA files. So many big shots 14 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: for Rashard along the way and he breaks down each 15 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: and every one of them, playing alongside you know, Turkleu, 16 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: Dwight Howard. That was a magic team that kind of 17 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: started this furras of three point shooting back in the day. Also, 18 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: his basketball journey that took him through the Pacific Northwest 19 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: has started Seattle and ultimately his decision to come to 20 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: City Viewers. Lots of good stuff to get into with 21 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: Magic big Man Rashard Lewis on this edition of Magic 22 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: Pod Squad. This is Fawns long Enough to Orlando Magic. 23 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: This is Cole Anthony, this is Jennon Suggs. 24 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: This is Paulo Ban Carroll the Orlando Magic and you're 25 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 3: listening to the Pod Squad. 26 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: Hey, welcome everyone to another edition of Magic Pod Squad. 27 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: Dante Marcateelli, George Galate and quite Frank to George one 28 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: of the greatest magic players. 29 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: We've ever had. 30 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: Rishard lewis kind enough to join us from Magic Pod Squad. 31 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: And I tell you what it is. How great is 32 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: it being back here? But it is a blast for 33 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: us to have you back here for But it feels 34 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: like old times. 35 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: Oh man, It's always a blast coming back to Orlando 36 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: because it just brings back so many memories and all 37 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: those memories are great memories. So I love this city, 38 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: you know, because it's one of the best sides of 39 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: my career. It was was it was one of them. 40 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: It's like he can still play by I'm not buying it. 41 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: You could play if I put you on, could I 42 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: could you give me fifteen minutes right now? 43 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: I can give you offense, no defense, that's not no 44 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: blocking size. I can give you some corner three parts 45 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: or something perfect. The league has gone home on. 46 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 4: Well, let everybody know what you're up to now, which 47 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 4: I know last year you were on the sidelines. You 48 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 4: were you were coaching with the Detroit Pistons. You've been 49 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 4: in the Big Three since its existence. Just what what 50 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 4: are you up to now? 51 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: Pretty much like you said, I was with first year 52 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: coaching with the Detroit Pistons. Last year, coach Casey brung 53 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: me on. He drafted me when I played with the 54 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: Seattle Super soonest and kind of raised me from a 55 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: young kid into a man. So he asked me to 56 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: come out there and help, which I enjoyed it. You know, 57 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: I feel like the next chapter in life for me 58 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: of being able to still be around the game and 59 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: looking forward to continue to do it, you know, in 60 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: the future as well as during the summertime playing the 61 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: Big Three. Still love to compete, still love to play 62 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: basketball at a high level. So I feel like that's 63 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: kind of like half court professional basketball. That's how I 64 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: look at it. Is it is that's a whole head. Yeah, 65 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: that's still professional to me because you got a lot 66 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: of talent in it. 67 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, a lot of coach because that makes 68 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 4: us super old heads over here? 69 00:02:59,680 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: Is that? 70 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're retired? 71 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: I do, but but you know, like I said, it 72 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: was still young in life. Of course, I still got 73 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: a long life to live. So I feel old in 74 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: basketball terms. I guess you could just say in basketball. 75 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: So how was the your coaching that was? That was 76 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: your first foray into into coaching. What did you What 77 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: did you like? What did you not like? Or is 78 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 3: there things you didn't expect? 79 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 2: No, I really enjoyed it. I loved it. A lot 80 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: of people always saying like, it's not too much for you. 81 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 2: Now you know you have a real job and you're 82 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: gonna be I'm like, man, this is basketball. Like basketball 83 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: to me is not a job, right, you know. It's 84 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: so much fun and I love it. I don't look 85 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: at it as a job. And the traveling, you know, 86 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: I mentally kind of put my mind to a place 87 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: where as a player, traveling night in and night out, 88 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: being at the practices, the meetings and all that. So 89 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: I did it for seventeen years. True, it's nothing for me. 90 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: It was easy for me to go into the season 91 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: and be mentally prepared for the travel and everything else, 92 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: just because the fact that I've done it. You know, 93 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: if I was coming in and never have done that 94 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: type of we're traveling, then it'll probably be a little 95 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: different for me. But I was mentally prepared. 96 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 4: And really a little more stiff on the water flight now. 97 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: Daf definitely that I'm older, but that's when you just 98 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: got to keep getting up. Just just them legs out a 99 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: little bit. 100 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 4: What they What are the guys nowadays asking you when 101 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 4: they picked your brain and you have conversations with young 102 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: guys that are coming into the league now, guys are 103 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 4: coming in same age as you were nineteen twenty starting 104 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 4: your NBA career, What are you telling these guy? 105 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: I will always tell the guys you know, you stick 106 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 2: with it because I can remember being that young guy 107 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 2: nineteen twenty years old and wanted to success right away. 108 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: Want to be an All Star, or score twenty points 109 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: at night, you know, be on sports and or be 110 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: a big key to making the playoffs. It don't happen overnight. 111 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: And that was a big thing that I was saying 112 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: with a lot of the young guys that was with 113 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: the Pistons. There was a young team that's rebuilding, like, 114 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: you gotta stick with it. You know you're gonna have 115 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: good nights, gonna have bad nights. But for the most part, 116 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: you're nineteen, you're twenty years old. There's a lot of 117 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: learning and a lot of experience the game. Everybody, not 118 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 2: Lebron James or Kobe Bryant. They could come in and 119 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: have immediate success. They take a lot of us. It 120 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,679 Speaker 2: takes time and not saying that you won't be successful 121 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: your first year, but you will be a better player 122 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: down the road in five for six years playing in 123 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: the NBA from gaining that experience. So I always tell guys, 124 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 2: you know you're going to have bad weeks, bad days, 125 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: bad months, don't beat yourself up over it. You know, 126 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: be mad that day, but get up tomorrow and continue 127 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: to work, continue to get better, and that's how you succeed. 128 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: You on spread, When did that click in though, for 129 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: you or shar because I would imagine that the majority 130 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 3: of players that come in, especially the ones. Let's say, like, 131 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: let's take a team like you you coached last year 132 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: in Detroit. There's a lot of kids on that team. 133 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 3: And I say kids because they're eighteen, nineteen years old. 134 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm super old. Now that they've they've been 135 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 3: you know, the best player on their team. I mean, 136 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 3: and you you went through this as an eighteen year 137 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: old kid coming out of high school. When does that 138 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 3: kick in for a player? Because it's not easy to 139 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 3: tell them that. I'm sure somebody may be told you 140 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 3: that when you were when you were a rookie. Maybe 141 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: it was coach Casey, maybe it was somebody else. When 142 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 3: does that click in for a guy? 143 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 4: And does it? 144 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure clicks in differently for everybody, right, 145 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: clicking for you? 146 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: Like you said, does clicking different for everybody? Sometimes it 147 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 2: could take a year, it could take two years, take 148 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: thirty games. But with me, I would say after my 149 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: first two years in the league going into my third 150 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: year that I gained a lot of experience. I think 151 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: more than anything, it's the confident level. But coming in 152 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 2: as a teenager, you know, I was able to mature 153 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: a little bit more from playing in the summer league 154 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 2: and you know, practicing hard. But I would say my 155 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 2: third year because you want to gain that experience on 156 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: the court, playing with the with the real guys, right, 157 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 2: And when you get that experience, the conference level goes up, 158 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: everything goes up, and you put the work in during 159 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: the summer. But by my third year, I felt like 160 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: I had it figured out. I was still learning, but 161 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 2: you know, everything was starting to come to me like this. 162 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: It was all about winning ball games, and when you're young, 163 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 2: it's all about me, me me. I want to be 164 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 2: an all star, I want to get it paid the 165 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: big bucks. I want to get thirty points a night. 166 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: It's all about, you know, the individual person. But when 167 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,239 Speaker 2: you figured it out over the years, it's all about 168 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: the team. It's about us, and when the team had success, 169 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: the individual has success. So you learn over time that 170 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: it's not just about that individual person. It's about us. 171 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: As did you call any of your old coaches back 172 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: once you became a coach and apologized to that and 173 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: say and say, hey, I'm really sorry, I got it 174 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: now apologize, But I do y'all. 175 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,119 Speaker 2: Did definitely get it, you know, being a little bad 176 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: body language at the end of the bench, wanting minutes, 177 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: wanting shots. You know, I was just learning. I was 178 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: a kid. If they would have put me out there, 179 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: probably would have been like a deer in airlight. So 180 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: I think sometimes, like I said, some kids are very talented. 181 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: They can come in and play right away, but I 182 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: would say ninety percent of rookies of guys that get 183 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: drafted to the NBA. It's a learning process. Yeah, it's 184 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: definite learning. You still can't have success, but it's still 185 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: a learning process. Of course. 186 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 4: You know, we think about when he came here in 187 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 4: oh seven, right, you played parts of four years with 188 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 4: the Magic Right looking at it today, and I obviously 189 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 4: knew this, but I had why I forgot you had 190 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 4: a whole basketball life before you got here. 191 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: That's not trumers in Seattle. 192 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: Years in Seattle. 193 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 4: That is a phenomenal career for a right that you 194 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 4: had a whole journey. I imagine Ray Allen was one 195 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 4: of those guys that pulled you aside. You were his rookie. 196 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: What I mean, nine years in Seattle. 197 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: Like you said, nine years in Seattle, and that's when 198 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: I had my best season. When Ray came for the team. 199 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: I played with Gary Payton for the first two years, 200 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: and then Gary Payton was traded for Reality. And when 201 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: Reality came to the team, he was one of those guys. 202 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: You know, we see Jesus set us work, not Reality. 203 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: You know, we're young guys in the locker room. Listen 204 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: to every story he tells us right, But it wasn't 205 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: out the stories he told us. It was the summertime. Uh, 206 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: the work we put in during the summer, working on 207 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: our bodies in our game. Uh, we followed the things 208 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: he did. He would get to the arena up before 209 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: games before anybody would get in there. By the time 210 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: us young guys would walk into the arena for the game, 211 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 2: he's already in his locker reading a book, mentally preparing 212 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: himself for the game. And we're like, what are you doing. 213 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: You're not gonna go shoot. He's like, I didn't already 214 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: did all of that, So he's so we picked up 215 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: the small things. And he told me to be an 216 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: All Star in his league, you have to be consistent, 217 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: not saying that you're gonna play great every night, but 218 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: when you have a bad night, you have to get 219 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: back onto the very next try to get back onto 220 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: the next game, and that's how you become an All Star. 221 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 2: And he was like, what you do outside of the 222 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: court is how you perform on the court. And he 223 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: helped me make my first All Star team. So I 224 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: give a lot of critics. Awesome for being a great leader, 225 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 2: you know, not only for just myself but for us 226 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 2: as a team because we was a young team and 227 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: he was a great leader. 228 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 4: Well, I got to hit you because we know Gary 229 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 4: Payton can tell stories, and we know reality can tell stories. 230 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 4: So we don't in Orlando, we don't. 231 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: Know a lot about reality and Gary Payton. 232 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 2: So what what? 233 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: What give us some. 234 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 4: Good stories that stood out that you can tell on 235 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 4: a podcast from those two guys. 236 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: Jerry Peyton's story that stands out? And I tell this 237 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,599 Speaker 2: story all the time. Of course, I'll drafted out of 238 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: high school teenagers. I'm a kid. The year I get drafted, 239 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: it was a lockout. So right after I got drafted, 240 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: league locks out, and I think I don't think. We 241 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: didn't start to January. So once they lifted lockout, we 242 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: fly into Seattle a week before training camp starts, me 243 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: and Julena McCard the rookies. But camp don't start for 244 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: another week, so the guys were just playing pick up 245 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: basketball games. So our first day to get there with 246 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: somebody from the staff was picking us up from the hotel, 247 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: Me and Jelena McCourt to bring us to the facility 248 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: just to play pickup before camp starts. To follow week. 249 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: We get to the facility late. I think we got 250 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: there like thirty minutes late, when they had already started 251 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: playing pick up, But it was because we got lost. 252 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: The guy that was driving us ended up taking a 253 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: wrong turn and we end up getting there late. So 254 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 2: soon as we walk into the gym, me and Jolena 255 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: McCall walk in, they literally plan a full game of 256 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: pick up. Gary Payton dribbling the ball up the court 257 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: stops in the middle of the pick up and started 258 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: seeing me and Jelena McCloy out, what the like y'all doing? 259 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: Y'all are late while y'all not. You know, we both 260 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 2: looked at each other and we pointed to the guy 261 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: that was driving like he is like it was his fault, 262 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 2: you know. He was like, I don't give a damn. 263 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 2: Y'all got to get to the gym. I have my 264 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: own boys pick y'all up, and you know, it's just 265 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: Gary Payton be and Gary Payton both and it scared 266 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: us because we know we're young teenage kids, just got drafted. 267 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: But starting to figure Gary out and and learn what 268 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 2: type of person he was, He's just passionate about the game. 269 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: When he steps in between those lines, he's playing basketball, 270 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 2: and we just happened to walk in the building while 271 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: he was playing basketball. That's right. If we called him 272 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: outside of those lines, maybe he would have came at 273 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: us a little different. But Gary Payton in between those 274 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: lines is all basketball. 275 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 4: They could both those two that you're learned from. Then 276 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 4: you come here in Orlando, you get a young Dwight 277 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 4: Howard right to get all the young young Jimier Nelson, 278 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 4: you get that. How valuable was that it was very 279 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 4: valuable veteran for those guys. 280 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 2: It was very valuable for me because, uh, you know, 281 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: playing nine years in Seattle, I learned a lot from 282 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: sitting back watching my first couple of years to becoming 283 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: a role player to becoming one of the main guys 284 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: in the offense. Uh. And when I got to the 285 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: and I was all about winning. My whole game was 286 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: just win, win, win. It's not about you know, getting 287 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: fifty points at night and losing the game. It was 288 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 2: just about winning. So when I came to the Orlando Magic, 289 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: it was obviously, like you said, it was a young team, 290 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 2: and my whole thing was winning basketball games. I didn't 291 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: care about the amount of money I was making or 292 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 2: me coming in being a Superstar from the Seattle super Sonics. 293 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: It was about us. It wasn't about me. That's how 294 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: I always approach you know, every game it's about us 295 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: and to be successful. You know, over the years of 296 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 2: watching the NBA, like the Spurs, the Lakers they have, 297 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 2: it's about the team to win that championship. It ain't 298 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 2: Toobe Bryant or Tim Duncan you know, it was minw Genobili, 299 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: Tony Parker. Uh, you know, from Shack to Rick Fox 300 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: to it was about the team. So I always felt 301 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: that as long as I could have my teammates engaged 302 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: and feel like they're part of the success, you get 303 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 2: the best. You get the best out out of them 304 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: on the court. 305 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 3: But you were a big reason for that success because 306 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 3: of you playing for what the team needed. Because it's 307 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: been well documented obviously, like Stan talks about it all 308 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: the time. You know, you were you were three for 309 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: nine years, ten years, you know, and you played the 310 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: three and small forward and that was your thing. And 311 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 3: then Stan pulls you into the office one day and says, listen, 312 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 3: like I want, we want to put you at the 313 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 3: four right and we want and you I don't think 314 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 3: there was much push pushback from you. You're just like, hey, listen, 315 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: whatever the team needs, we're good. 316 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you. 317 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 3: Guys kind of revolutionize revolutionize the game a little bit, 318 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 3: because now look around, everybody's got a stretch for and 319 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: it all goes back to that with you. 320 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: That's right. I remember, like you said, when stant told 321 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: me you wanted to move me to the four, and 322 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: I you know, and like I said, I told him, 323 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: whatever helps, you know, the team win ball games. And 324 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: I was for it because we had Hedo Turkeulu that 325 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: was playing a three position, which was the same position 326 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 2: I played when I was in Seattle. And I know 327 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: Turkeulu is a great basketball player. I played against him 328 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: when he was a Sacramento even played against him when Orlando, 329 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 2: you know, we played faced each other, and I know 330 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: Turku Lou was going to be a big key to 331 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: us succeeding. So when he said to move to the four, 332 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: you know, I was all for it as long as 333 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: it was successful the team. I may have took a 334 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: little bit of back last by not being that thirty 335 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: point score of what everybody was always looking, but we 336 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: didn't need that for exactly. It was all about winning. 337 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: Long as we win basketball games, right, nobody's talking bad 338 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: about the Orlando Magic. When you're losing, they try to 339 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: point the finger. But that's just a part of sports. 340 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 2: And it was in with the this organization. The team 341 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: we had, it was a family. You know. We didn't 342 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: have guys stabbing each other in the back and Dan 343 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: smiling in their face. No, we We was a real 344 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: family and we played that way on the court. Feel like, 345 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: the better relationship you have with guys off the court, 346 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: coaching staff as well, the better it'll show. The more 347 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: it'll show on the court. 348 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: I always tell Dante, and you may remember it or 349 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 3: you may not remember it, it will stick with me forever. 350 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,479 Speaker 3: The year before the year we went to the finals, 351 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: we had a dinner at training camp and everybody got 352 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: the handbooks and whatever else. And everybody's sitting around a 353 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 3: big table at the dinner. And I don't know if 354 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: you and Stan went through. Each guy started, you know, Dwight, Rishard, 355 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: Hito jam and he went all the way down to 356 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 3: a Donald, the offense of Donald. He went all the 357 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 3: way down to a Donald. Right, this is what we 358 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 3: need you to do to win. I need you to 359 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 3: do a B, C, D and E Rashard, I need 360 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 3: you to do ab and everybody to a man just 361 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 3: kind of stood like and they knew, but like that's rare, 362 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 3: is it not? 363 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: It's there here. And that's why I really like Stan, 364 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: not only as a coach but as a person because 365 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: coaches like Stan be straight up. Which as a player, 366 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: that's what you need. You need to tell us our 367 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: roles because I can be a great defender rebounder, but 368 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: I aver twelve thirteen points with the Sonics. Now I'm 369 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: coming to the magic. First thing is on every basketball 370 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: player might a scoring Yeah, now I want to go 371 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: get twenty points because you know, you score, you get paid. 372 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 2: So when Stan tells you your role, look, you're a defender, 373 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: you're a rebounder, you're a three point shooter. Are your 374 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: you know whatever your role is. And if you know 375 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: that as a player, you go out there and play 376 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: your role. You can't get upset when you're not playing 377 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: your role, if coach takes you out the game from 378 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: not being doing your role, because you know, when you 379 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: have Dwight Howard on the team, you know Jamie Nelson 380 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: hit a turculu. Those are offensive guys. Those are the 381 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: guys who are going to go through offensively. Martine Gortat, 382 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: you're the back of center. I need you to rebound, 383 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: needs you to defend and take the offensive points when 384 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: it comes to you, when you're opening, when you get it. 385 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: But for the most part, Dwight Howard, Jamie and Nelson, 386 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: you know, he lets everybody know their role defensively, offensively, 387 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: and if you don't know your role, come talk to me, 388 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 2: because we don't want to have no type of friction 389 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: or bad body language. Love that because one person do it, 390 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: it can trickle down to the team, especially if you 391 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: have a guy like Dwight howld Oheito Turkulu one of 392 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 2: the main guys on the team. If they show a 393 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: bad body language and a bad attitude as the leaders, 394 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 2: it trickles down to the team. That's right, So you 395 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: want to make sure that don't happen throughout the time. 396 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: I don't know why that dinner sticks with me even 397 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 3: to this day, but I just remember leaving there and 398 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 3: I had been to a bunch of dinners like that 399 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 3: before with speeches that were similar, But for whatever reason, 400 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 3: it was the way you guys were even just I 401 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 3: don't want to say you were locked in at dinner. 402 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 3: But you were locked in at dinner, right, And I 403 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 3: and I left there and I went home and I 404 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 3: told my and I told my wife and I was like, hook, like, 405 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 3: we're going to be damn good. Like we're going to 406 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 3: be good. And she's like, what do you mean you 407 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: just had dinner. I'm like, you can just tell by 408 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: the vibe in the room with the guys, you could 409 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 3: just tell special. 410 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 4: Well, and you're and you're going at this revolutionized in 411 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 4: the game, really because you've got two six ten guys 412 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 4: who can handle, who can defect, who can pass, who 413 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 4: can shoot. 414 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: Right now, you're leading the league in three is made. 415 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 4: The team is leading the league in threes. Right, You've 416 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 4: got a big that you can play through. 417 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: And that was that I hadn't been done till that point, right, 418 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: and the way you guys did it. 419 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 2: And a lot of credit goes to Dwight Howard because 420 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: he was obviously one of the best centers in the 421 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: league at the time, dominant in the paint, as well 422 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: as a lot of credit goes to the coaching staff. 423 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: Stan Van Gunn. This was his staff because he didn't 424 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: come in from Miami and coach the way he coached 425 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: the Miami Heat. He coached to the players that he 426 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 2: had on his team, right, He had Dwight Howard, He 427 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 2: had of course hedoj JJ, he has shooters, but he 428 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: has such a dominant force in Dwight Howard. He coached 429 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 2: the style that would fit best for the type of 430 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: players he had. And that's what makes great coaches, not 431 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 2: coming in with, say the Miami Heat coach her and 432 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: try to bring it to the Orlando Magic. Maybe don't 433 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 2: have that Miami He coached type players, right, he coasted 434 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: what he had, and that's why, you know, those are 435 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: some of the best coaches. And that's why I still 436 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: think stand is one of the best coaches that I've 437 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 2: ever played for, because he's always made adjustments, if it 438 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: was during the game or in the playoffs, whatever it was, 439 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 2: or the type of players he had, if it was 440 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: a trade made visc Carter coming to the team, whatever 441 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: it was, he made adjustment with within the organization. 442 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 4: You know, it's is We just had Ryan Anderson on 443 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 4: the podcast recently as well, and he said when he 444 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 4: first got here, he couldn't do anything right. 445 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: Stan rode with him and. 446 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 4: He's just hug You're laughing because you heard you heard 447 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 4: those guys he said Shark could do no wrong. 448 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 3: He did say that he ever Shark was his favorite. 449 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, did you feel that with the stan ever get on? Well, 450 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: I never. 451 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: Heard Stan gets on everybody. Sure, sure he does. Stan 452 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: gets on us. He gets on everything were not doing. 453 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: I also never heard of Yellow you had a special relation. 454 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: You either did everything right. 455 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't want said Ever sacrificed. I think 456 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: I think he appreciated the sacrifice, but not only that. No, 457 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: I'm not a bit talkative guy that's gonna be screaming 458 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 2: and yelling and practice. I live by example, Yeah, putting 459 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 2: the work in getting their early standing, after practice, getting 460 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: up shots, or in the weight room to getting my 461 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: body together, whatever it was, I live by example, and 462 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: I was always you know, I always practice hard. I 463 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: would always do, you know, whatever coach wanted me to do, because, 464 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 2: like I said, I felt like as one of the 465 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: cabins of the team, if you don't do it, the 466 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 2: other guys want to fallow behind. So I've always been 467 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: just that type of person to do, you know, the 468 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 2: right thing and try to win ball games that way, 469 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 2: especially with a guy like stand being the coach. 470 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 4: Now I think about that finals run, right, and I'm 471 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 4: sitting there thinking, then this guy hit a lot of 472 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 4: big shots, I mean big shots with all of us 473 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 4: praying go in, go in. I got a huge, mega 474 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 4: shot and I went back and looked at it. That 475 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 4: eighth nine year clutch situations, Right, you're talking in the 476 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 4: last two three minutes of a basketball game, close within 477 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 4: five points either way, Vince Carter was the most clutch 478 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 4: player in the NBA, and we had that year. 479 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: Really we ended up adding oh. 480 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 3: You're talking about eight o nine. 481 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: We ended up adding here right right right. 482 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: Number two in the whole league was Rashard Lewis. 483 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 3: That doesn't surprise me. 484 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: I can think of six las off the top of 485 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: my head that. 486 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: But would you have known to that level? 487 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 3: No, we No, I just I can think of I 488 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 3: can think of the Detroit I can think of the 489 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 3: Detroit game winner. I can think of the Boston banker 490 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 3: at the buzzer. I can think of the Cleveland game 491 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 3: winner on the win, and then I could think of 492 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 3: the Cleveland three pointer in the corner that tied it that, 493 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 3: Oh my god, maybe we didn't even go to the finals. 494 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 3: If you don't hit that shot, what. 495 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 4: Else what else I got them on the top of 496 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 4: I want to touch on those. 497 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 3: You have notes, I have no notes. 498 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 2: It's all in my head. 499 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 4: The individually, but to be because we know he hit 500 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 4: big shots. But but there was a clutch gene about 501 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 4: you your whole career, but something special that year. What 502 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 4: is it about being? 503 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: You know, we haven't the ball out Gane, the second 504 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: and the clutch. I had no clue about this that 505 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 2: I think. Uh, I'm just always I'm just. 506 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 3: He made it up by way. He made the stat 507 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 3: up side of el. 508 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: Think it helps me. 509 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: Look good. No, go ahead, I'm saying fifty. 510 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 4: Percent to the floor in forty four percent from three 511 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 4: in the clutch, second. 512 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: Best in the envent. I don't know. I just had 513 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: that attitude of I just wanted to win, and I 514 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: felt like I always felt like I'm gonna make every shot. 515 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 2: I'm not a high volume shit. I'm not gonna go 516 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 2: out there and shoot thirty shots just to get twenty points. 517 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: You know, maybe twelve. I wasn't a high volume shooter. 518 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 2: But I've always felt like, give me the ball at 519 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 2: the end the game, I'm gonna make the shot. You know, 520 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 2: even if I were missed the shot. I go home 521 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 2: and I think about that shot all night long. But 522 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 2: I just felt like I wanted to win so bad. 523 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: I'm gonna make you trust you for to trust me. 524 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 2: I'm gonna make this right. That's the mat I think there. 525 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 3: I think there's a couple of things with that, Like 526 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 3: number one, it's that, and number two, like your demeanor 527 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 3: all the time is very even, keel right, and you 528 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 3: don't get too high, you don't get too low. Everything 529 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 3: you look on and you always know Rashar is in 530 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 3: control of his emotions. 531 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 4: Of nervous every time out the ball, every time we 532 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 4: touched the ball, I was a wreck. 533 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: Please don't throw this. In the fifth throw, please don't throw. 534 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: He was so clutched. 535 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 3: But you're though, you're Jamiir, Jamiir rishard Hto. We're probably 536 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 3: three of the best clutch players in the league over 537 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 3: that like three four years time span, right, But with you, 538 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 3: it was like I just I never it was never 539 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 3: a doubt to me that that ball was going to 540 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: go in if you got it at the end, I 541 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 3: just knew it was going to go in. I haven't 542 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,719 Speaker 3: felt that way in a long time. By the way, 543 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 3: it's been like. 544 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: I miss you and also on that during that time, 545 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 2: we had such dominant alpha males on the team that 546 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: even he don't felt like he would make shot Jamir 547 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 2: Dwight Howard. You know, we was just at a point 548 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 2: where we had that chemistry and we were so bonded. Yeah, 549 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: we're gonna make this out. We're gonn You're gonna have 550 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: to beat us. You're not gonna come in and just 551 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: make it. It's gonna be easy win. You gotta beat us. 552 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: You have to take it from It's gonna go down 553 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 2: to the last second for you to beat. 554 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 4: Well in Turkey big shots too. But we got so 555 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 4: we got video. We're gonna roll this in after the fact. 556 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 2: I wish we could. We are. We're going to roll 557 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 2: things a little and after we do. 558 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 4: I wish you could see it that we go we're 559 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 4: huge right now. 560 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 2: Oh wow, I didn't know we did that. 561 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: But that Game one against Cleveland, here you are in 562 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference. 563 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: Fire. 564 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 4: You just beat Boston. You just blew them out on 565 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 4: their floor. And after the conference in Game seven in Boston, 566 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 4: the whole world is expecting Lebron and Kobe. 567 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 2: Yes, were they not commercials all year long? The Muffets 568 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: Kobe Lebron, Kobe Lebron all year. That's all they wanted 569 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: to see in the final. 570 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: That's a little chip, I would think on your shoulder. 571 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: It was a big chip on all of our shoulders 572 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: every week. You know, we took that person because we 573 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: felt like it was one of the best teams in 574 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 2: the league in the East at the time, us Cleveland 575 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: as well as Boston. But you know they started that 576 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 2: early in the season and commercial it was that was 577 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: like all Star bres almost predicted that Lakers versus Cleveland. 578 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 2: So you know, we we we took that person. 579 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: But you go to the end of game one. Now 580 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: here you are the big bad Cleveland Calves who everybody's 581 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: assumes going to go. You're on their floor. 582 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 4: They lost like three games that whole year at home. Right, 583 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 4: balls in your hands with four seconds left with a 584 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 4: chance to steal game one. 585 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 2: Right. 586 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 3: This is after by the way, and we had one 587 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 3: of our assistant coaches with Steve Hetzel at the time, 588 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 3: who was an assistant coach with Cleveland during that team, 589 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: and he liked to remind us that that they were 590 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 3: up by twenty something. 591 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: Points, like that good point game. They were a good 592 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 2: point and we were getting smoked very I could just 593 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 2: about to say that Game one, we was excited. Eastern 594 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 2: Conference Finals. You know, we in Cleveland, we take the 595 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: bus ride to the arena to go over for Game one. 596 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 2: Streets is just filled with people. You know, they booing 597 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 2: us as we're getting police as scored to the arena. 598 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 2: So yo, crazy, like we're excited. Right first quarter game 599 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: Stars ball goes up. It was boom boom boom. We 600 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 2: was like first time out. We go to the bench, 601 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 2: were down maybe ten to fifteen points, and we look 602 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 2: at each other. We looking around like we just get 603 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 2: ourselves into a stands, just like, calm down, everybody, just relax, 604 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 2: take us chip away at it. We're not gonna get 605 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: it all back in one play. Just calm down. I 606 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: think that first time out kind of relaxed. Every day 607 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 2: I relaxed. We were still tense and you know, ready 608 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 2: to play. Kind of reset. It was reset, yeah, because 609 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: we it was just like it was too fast for us. 610 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 2: We reset it, started chipping away at it, and I 611 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: think we was cut the league by halftime. I think 612 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: it was down maybe a couple points now, but I 613 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 2: can say that first quarter it was like, oh my God. 614 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 4: I had to been thinking, Wow, we get ourselves into it, 615 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 4: like you said, but now you fight back and the 616 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 4: game comes down to you with the ball in your head. 617 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: Fight back down to the last second. I remember coaching 618 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: goowing up a play. You know, I'm feeling good. I 619 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 2: started off first half not playing too well, but second 620 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 2: half started playing well. I was playing a lot better, 621 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 2: started getting a little rhythm, and I can remember, you know, 622 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 2: like I said, when it come down to those that 623 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 2: end of the game, I want to win. I don't 624 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: care how we're gonna do it. Let's win. But I 625 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: remember Turkeyu passing me that ball in the wing, and 626 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 2: I had Verisida was guarding me, and you know, I 627 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 2: felt like every time a BIG's on me, I'm going 628 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: to beat you to the basket. I'm quite quicker than you, 629 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: so I tried to drive him to the basket. He 630 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 2: played great defense. I remember kicking it back out to 631 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: Turkeulu at the top of the key. But I wanted 632 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: to win and my instinct was going to get the ball, 633 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 2: so I just come running back out to the three 634 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 2: point line, you know, like kind of waving my hands 635 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: like pass it back and he gives it back to me, 636 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: knowing Turculu. 637 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 3: We don't. 638 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 2: He don't like to pass the ball a lot he wants. Yeah, 639 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 2: he ended up giving it back to me and I 640 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 2: gave Ver's our jab step and he thought I was 641 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 2: gonna drive it again and I just raised up and 642 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: when they went through the net. When I say the excitement, 643 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: I had the chills, the feeling. I think I started 644 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 2: pumping my chest looking over to the Spinch. You know, 645 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: everybody is so happy. I mean just the magnitude of 646 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 2: that game, Eastern Conference Finals, game one on the road, 647 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: playing against the best team in the NBA, had the 648 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: best record that year, Lebron James, best player in the league. 649 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 2: You no our back. I mean everything was against us 650 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 2: and our back. The building was insane. It was insane. 651 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: It was the loudest building I've ever played in. The 652 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: atmosphere was crazy. To steal Game one was a big deal. 653 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 3: Is that do you just do you have that like 654 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 3: bookmarked on your phone and then that's how you go 655 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 3: to sleep every night? Real quick before you go to sleep, 656 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 3: You're like, let me just watch this fifteen seconds real quick. 657 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 3: That's how I would go to sleep every night. 658 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 2: No, that's the side that I always remember, but not 659 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: only that, but I don't I think still in Game 660 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: one is a big key to us getting to the finals. 661 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: We don't get game one absolutely. 662 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 3: Well, that's what you're thinking. 663 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 4: The story that you're telling is the story that Turk 664 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 4: wishes he could tell because it gave two. 665 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 2: He is right, he makes the why it should have 666 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 2: been the game, the game winner. 667 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 3: Now Lebron make that miracle shot. 668 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: Every year I have to watch this, and not only that, 669 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: it was only what Every year I gotta watch it 670 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: to the NBA TV, they always show it either to 671 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: highlight or they showing that game. But I think it 672 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: was like one point something seconds left because it was 673 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: only like that last time tick it in or catching 674 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: let it go. And like I said, I remember this 675 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 2: to this day. I'm guarding the guy on the inbounds 676 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 2: as he throws the button, and the play was. You know, 677 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: we figured they wanted to try to get a lib 678 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: tip in or whatever because you don't have time, So 679 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: we cut the lob off for Lebron to get the tip, 680 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: but we cut all the paint off. We playing the paint. 681 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 2: You're not getting a tip in. So he somehow runs 682 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: to the back to the top of the key, and 683 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: I remember the ball being passed to him and I'm 684 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: following the ball. I'm the inbound im guarding the inbounder. 685 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: Ball goes to him. I'm following the ball and I'm 686 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 2: running to where the ball's going. Lebron catches it. If 687 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 2: you go back and watch the replay, Turculeus contested it, 688 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 2: but you can see me come flying by to try 689 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: to well you try, and he shot it, and you know, 690 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: we like, we got this game too, And when it 691 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 2: goes in the arena erupts and we like kind of 692 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: looking around like did that really just happen? Yes, we 693 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 2: thought we was going up to zero. Were for sure 694 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 2: knew we was in the driver's seatd this serious? Now 695 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 2: it's a whole new ball game. Yes, from a one 696 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: second shot from the top of the key. 697 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a miracle shot. But you you recover. 698 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 4: You go back and win game three at home and 699 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 4: then there was a feeling George that I I remember, 700 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 4: and magic fans fell. 701 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: Game four is almost just as important. You can't go 702 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: back up there too, too. 703 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 3: You had to get well, you have to you have 704 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 3: to hold home court at that to get it. 705 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 4: And it goes to you again in the corner with 706 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 4: the big shot, end up going overtime and winning. But 707 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 4: now you get your number called again. I would think 708 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 4: if I'm Cleveland, I'm not letting Richard beat me. 709 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 2: Right for some reason, Like I said, I think it 710 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: was down two points at the time. 711 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, way were down down, one. 712 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 4: Down, one down one didn't need a three, but went 713 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 4: fur all of it. 714 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was wide open, I mean, staying a 715 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: little such a great play, you know, me and Dwight 716 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: at the elbows, and I think it was screening down 717 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 2: for I don't know if it's Turkey Lou or Jamir 718 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 2: coming up, but that was just a decoy screen. Yeah, 719 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: I mean, and I see a lot of teams running 720 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: this place to this day and people bring it up. 721 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 2: But you know, after I set that screen, Dwight turns 722 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 2: and screen for me. And you know I like to 723 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 2: post up on that right block, so the right side 724 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: is one of my best. You know, I need to 725 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: shoot the jump hook or I love to turn over 726 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: the right should learn that from a kim Olaji won 727 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: the dream shake. Turn over my right shoulder to shoot 728 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: the shot, the fadeaway shot. So me turned over my 729 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 2: shoulder to shoot that three was almost a money shot 730 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: for me because I worked on it all the time 731 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 2: and I post up all the time. So coming off 732 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 2: of that right side, catching it and turning over my 733 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 2: right shoulder, it was like and he told coach, told me, 734 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 2: if you're open, let it, go shoot it. You know. 735 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: If you're not open them, you know, go to the basket, 736 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 2: you know, make a plate. But if you're open for 737 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 2: the three, you can have to shoot it. And nobody 738 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: was on me right and I'm turned over my right 739 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: showed it, which is a rhythm shot for me, and 740 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: it was nothing, you know, nothing, but he made it 741 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 2: and the arena he erupted it. 742 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 3: Oh my god, talk to you talk about the arena erupting, like, 743 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 3: talk about the city at that point when we were 744 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 3: making you know, the all the years you were here, really, 745 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 3: I mean, just talk about the fan base and the 746 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 3: energy that white. 747 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 2: Yes, and that's what was going on in the city 748 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: of Orlando. It was ignited throughout the playoffs and it 749 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: even bigger in the finals. Did you know. That's what 750 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 2: it was all about. Who was trying our best win 751 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 2: the championship for the city of Orlando, for the de 752 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 2: Vos family, because the energy. I mean that not only 753 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 2: that year the fans was great, but in the finals 754 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 2: it just went to a whole nother level. Man. The 755 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 2: city was great, the arena was packed. It was just 756 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 2: it was a good feeling to have in here. And 757 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 2: you know, in the in the Orlando area, especially when 758 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 2: we was on a road playing playoff games. We would 759 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 2: come back, the fans will be buzzed. They couldn't wait 760 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 2: for us to come back back road. It was great. 761 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: It was a lot of I don't think we knew 762 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: how special it was, so we tried to never take 763 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: it for granted. 764 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 4: But man, it was just a spout. I mean, it's you. 765 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 4: You're lucky in your career to experience it once. You 766 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 4: got to go on and win a championship. You got 767 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 4: to do it again, which is phenomenal. Down in Miami. 768 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: I'm not bitter at all. Why did I have to 769 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 2: be with any other team? 770 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 3: But they for God, good Lord. 771 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 4: All right, But it seems like you get to the 772 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 4: NBA Finals and then Game one kind of seemed like 773 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 4: a little bit of what happened in Game one in Cleveland, right, 774 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 4: It kind of maybe the speed or the right right, right, 775 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 4: But man, you thirty four seven and thirty four eleven 776 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 4: and seven in Game two for Rashard. 777 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 2: That's pretty good. 778 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that does not you were on a missioning game. 779 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 2: I was on a mission to win. I saw all 780 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: I was thinking about was win, win. When we got 781 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 2: to win ball games. I think that first half of 782 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 2: played really well. Yeah, especially in the first half. And 783 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 2: you know, after that Game one loss, we didn't only 784 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: lose a close game, we got beat pre We got 785 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 2: beat up pretty bad. So you know, staying laid into us, 786 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 2: we got on field session, but as players, as individuals, 787 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: you know, we got a man up. And I've heard 788 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 2: the rumors in the media. We saw all they're not 789 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 2: fit for this day. It's like I think Paul Pierce said, 790 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 2: like it's like a rock Wiler versus a chihuahua. So 791 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 2: you know, we we heard it all, and I mean 792 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 2: it didn't hurt our feelings, but we knew we had 793 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 2: to bring a different level of play because we're in 794 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 2: the finals playing against Kobe Bryant and you know, the Lakers. 795 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 2: So I just was locked in. Came out playing well, 796 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 2: shooting the ball very well, and we almost had a 797 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 2: chance to win that game, end up missing lay up 798 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 2: to go to old time. But I think if we 799 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 2: win game two, definitely a totally different series of files. 800 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 2: Not saying we will win it all, but it's a 801 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 2: different serious because during that time it was two three two. 802 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 2: So we played the two. Say we split one one 803 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 2: and we come to Orlando to play three games, and 804 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: we still we win the first game at home. Of course, 805 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 2: I think game four, Fisher, it's a crazy shot shot. Yeah, 806 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 2: he ain't makes shots all game long. 807 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 3: He was over he was over five. I think at 808 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 3: that point, right. 809 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 4: Even we win that game of example, well you were 810 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 4: about to tie the series. You're about to tie the 811 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 4: series up, that's right, and it's kind of back. 812 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 2: To zero zero three games series. Of course we would 813 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 2: have to go back to la But at the same time, 814 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 2: you want to be competing, you know. And and when 815 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 2: officially hit that that three, I felt like it took 816 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 2: a little bit of hair out of us because we 817 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 2: didn't play the same way the very next That's a 818 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 2: good point. Yeah, you know, it just felt like I 819 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 2: kind of did it. 820 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 3: It took air out of me and I wasn't playing 821 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,760 Speaker 3: like I just I just find I would you felt 822 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 3: like it, oh, man, Like that was one, we another one. 823 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 2: We let Yeah, down two one is different going down 824 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 2: three one. 825 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 3: That's that's a big hole. 826 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: I remember that. 827 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 4: I remember the time out for the Courtney League because 828 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 4: I was doing sidelines and I'd have my head in 829 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 4: all those timeouts, and I remember him drawing up that 830 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 4: play and it must have been something you guys worked 831 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 4: on a bunch, because I remember seeing the diagram Ember 832 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 4: thinking oh. 833 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: Shit, this this could work. 834 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, this could work. 835 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 4: And he and heto says, Courtney keeps telling him make 836 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 4: sure the balls there, make sure the buzz, make. 837 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: Sure, make sure it took it. 838 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 3: And his answer, don't worry, bro, I get it there. 839 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: Come on, man, don't hello, Bet, just get there, just 840 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: get it there. 841 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 2: I'll get it. 842 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: It almost happened. It was a tough shot. 843 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 2: But he oh my goodness, it was a tough soun. 844 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 2: Was a great pass. Tough shot. I mean, it's just sports. 845 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 2: Sometimes it happens. I don't want to say Courtney leaves, oh, 846 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 2: of course, because one shot doesn't determine how the game. 847 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 2: So it's a bunch of Look. 848 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 4: That building was like, I mean, it felt like are 849 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 4: you for a second ball game? 850 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: Right then? It felt it was that well drawn up. 851 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 2: It was. It was well drawn up, great play. Just 852 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 2: ball just didn't go our way that night. 853 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 1: No, no, but sure did well. I think this is awesome. 854 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: I g we could reminisce and go down memory. 855 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 2: About all kind of stuff. Now, the Philly series when 856 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 2: Dwight gets suspended, we beating them out in their court, 857 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 2: Boston Game seven on Derek Court. I mean, it was 858 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 2: just one of those years, like we we fought tooth 859 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 2: and nail to do to win ball games. 860 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 4: And we feel as good as that year was. And 861 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 4: you went to the NBA Finals, where would you rank 862 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 4: the old nine ten him? 863 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 2: They were just as good work that was just as 864 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 2: good you guys, you get Blue through that probably even better. 865 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 3: Yeah right, I contend we were better the second go around. 866 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:15,760 Speaker 2: It's just sometimes things are happening getting to the finals. 867 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 2: You always want to say that's a better team, because 868 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 2: if I say I won a championship, a better team. 869 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 2: But just like I mean, you team could be stacked. 870 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 2: You have one injury to your team, it can it 871 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 2: can mess the whole season up, even if it's just 872 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 2: a role player like Peters is a great role player. 873 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 2: Tachers get hurt. You know, he's our coat he's going 874 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 2: he's our best defender. He's going to Lebron James, He's 875 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 2: going court Bryant. You know, he's guarding all these guys 876 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 2: that we need him to guard one role player gainst 877 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 2: Hurst and may change the whole season. We may not 878 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 2: even make it to the finals. So you know, you 879 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 2: held a lot goes into trying to be successful in was. 880 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 4: Michael Petri is the only guy who played with They 881 00:37:53,680 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 4: gave himself his old nicknames. 882 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 2: Off. Can I say. 883 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: He was great though? He was a big part of it. 884 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: Everybody was. 885 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 1: It was a great time. 886 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 4: It was just an unbelievable time to be here. 887 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 2: It was central Florida, not only for the basketball players 888 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 2: and the staff, but for the city. It was great times. 889 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 2: That's why every time I come back, I feel like 890 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 2: I'm walking with open doorms, not only by the organization 891 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 2: but by the fans in Orlando. 892 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 3: You know. 893 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 2: That's why I always called this my second home. 894 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 3: Wow, you've gotten to see the Advent Health Training Center. Yes, 895 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 3: what are your thoughts? It's hard. People ask me, and 896 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 3: we'll talk to some former players and they're like, Hey, 897 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 3: how's that how's that practice facility? You guys have down there. 898 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 3: I'm like, you really don't know until you see it, 899 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 3: So you see tell. 900 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 2: Me that I've been hearing all about it. Yeah, but 901 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 2: first time seeing it today, and it's great, it's amazing. 902 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 2: I mean, it's one of it. It's got to be 903 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 2: the one of the it's got to be the best 904 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 2: practic facility in the NBA, at least for now until 905 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 2: five years down and road somebody else go build something else. 906 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 2: So our goal see somebody come in and see this 907 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 2: facility and try to copy it. Yeah, copy it in 908 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 2: and on tour. But you know, like I said, this 909 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 2: facility is first class. I mean, I've never seen a 910 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 2: heel in the. 911 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: Weight room right right right on lap. 912 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 2: Pool as well. You know, it's it's definitely all the things. 913 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 2: These players have no excuses to get better there you go, right, 914 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 2: you know, get healthy, get better. 915 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 3: You have no excuses now that you're removed a little 916 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 3: bit from the game, and your kids were really little 917 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 3: when you were here, yes, and now that you're you know, 918 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 3: and we talked about it, that's fourteen fifteen years ago, 919 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 3: which is crazy to think about because Russ it does 920 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 3: feel like right, it feels like yesterday. 921 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 2: Like do you look back. 922 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 3: Do you set the kids down and say, hey, let's 923 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 3: check out what dad was back in the day, Like, yeah, yeah, 924 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,399 Speaker 3: I do. How do they react to that? 925 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 2: They love, especially when I come back to Orlando. When 926 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 2: I bring them back and we go to the games, 927 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 2: they see my pitches on the wall or they always see, 928 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 2: you know, the treatment I get when I'm playing when 929 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 2: I'm here in Orlando. They they they they excited about it. 930 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 2: And every time I get ready to come back to Orlando, 931 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 2: I'm always telling you, I'm about to go to Orlando, 932 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 2: I gotta do some events. So I do some charity events, 933 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 2: you know, with the Magic, and they know that this 934 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 2: is probably my favorite team that I played on throughout 935 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 2: my career, even though I was drafted as a young 936 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 2: kid and grew from a boy to a man in Seattle, 937 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 2: won a championship in Miami. But this was the best 938 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 2: time in my career playing with Orlando Magic, not only 939 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 2: because the teammates, I had great coaching staff, but like 940 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 2: I said, the seat of Orlando. You know, they welcomed 941 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 2: us all with open arms and we was treated great, 942 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 2: such a specialty. 943 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 1: I show my kids the shots that. 944 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 3: Night, so I hope I'm gonna go watch them tonight again. 945 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 1: Watch it was just it was a little embarrassing. It 946 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: was it was It. 947 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 4: Was an awesome time. And listen, it's thirty five years 948 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 4: of magic history. Yeah, and we're excited to have you, 949 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 4: you know, be in town more, to come around more often. 950 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 2: Of course. 951 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, we need Rashard Lewis around more. How do we 952 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 3: How do we get that? How do we do that? 953 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 2: I'm one phone call away, all right, But one thing 954 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 2: I can't say is I can't wait to see the 955 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 2: city get back to that trip, that type of basketball, 956 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 2: which I think is coming real soon, you know, to 957 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 2: have a bright future, and the organization is always working 958 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,439 Speaker 2: to to get good players here and to make them, 959 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 2: you know, a playoff team. And I can't wait to 960 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 2: see the excitement back in the city of Orlando when 961 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 2: they're back in the playoffs, not on the playoffs, but 962 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 2: hopefully win the championship. I love it. 963 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,399 Speaker 1: There's a buzz coming people. It's very excited about this team. 964 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 2: You gotta have patience. Patient, that's the key, you know, 965 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 2: Like I said, with young guys, it doesn't nobody's winning 966 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 2: the championship nineteen twenty years old. Maybe n C double 967 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 2: a turner, But the NBA Championship is very tough, so 968 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 2: the fans just have to have patience. Just like when 969 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 2: I came here that first year. We got better every year. 970 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 2: We went from first round making it to trying to 971 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 2: get past Detroit and Boston ended up getting past them 972 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 2: making it to the finals. But it didn't happen in 973 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 2: one year. It was a couple of years. 974 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:45,879 Speaker 3: It feels like it happened in one year. 975 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,959 Speaker 4: Away these guys got a lot easier. 976 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: You got clotheslined by the pistons for three years. 977 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 2: That was that. 978 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 4: You can't do that anymore. Changed a little bit, but Rashard, 979 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 4: this was awesome. Thank you so much and we look 980 00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 4: forward to keeping up with you here. 981 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 2: Thank you very much for it. Thank you for one 982 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 2: of our favorites for Charlotte's. That'll do it. 983 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: For this edition of Magic Pod Squad