1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: Five four three two one, Ronan, why would you do 2 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: it this way rather than take it to somebody for 3 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: a diagnosis. I think I know the answer. I just 4 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: want to hear use of the car Doctor. I have 5 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: never touched the transmission forward. I've never done anything, and 6 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: I have no reason at this point to do anything. 7 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: First of all, you've exceeded what I considered to be 8 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: normal life of a transmission. Welcome to the radio home 9 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: of ron Andanian the Car Doctor. Since this is where 10 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: car owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in. The garage doors 13 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: are open, but I am here to take your calls 14 00:00:54,800 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: at eight five and now he's running. Hey, come on in, 15 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: sit down, Ny and the car Doctor at your service. 16 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: Eight five five five zero nine zero zero is the 17 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: phone number. That's eight five five five six zero nine 18 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: zero zero The Car Doctor seven toll free number to 19 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: call in and get your car questions solved. Give us 20 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 1: a call and we'll sell give you an answer that 21 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: we'll put you back in the driver's seat and out 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: on the road with the shiny side up in the 23 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: dirty side down, as they like to say. More information 24 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: about this radio show at Car Doctor Show dot com. 25 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: Also podcasting available from a multitude of sources tune in 26 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: dot com, i heeart dot com, iTunes dot com, Google Play, 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 1: and as well as our own aforementioned Car Doctor Show 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: dot com website. You can find podcasts there as well. Um, 29 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: I want to thank you for taking the time to 30 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: sit with me this hour and the next hour. If 31 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: you're inclined, if you're looking enough to be an affiliate 32 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: that gets it, and uh, you know, I'm glad to 33 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: be part of your weekend as we cruise along this hour. Also, 34 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: I should point out that we're gonna be talking to 35 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: Paul Eisenstein or the Detroit Bureau the Detroit Bureau dot com. 36 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: Paul will be stopping by the talked to us about 37 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: of all things technology. G is technology reaching the point 38 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: where it's outpacing the technician, and Paul's got some interesting 39 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: thoughts about that as well. Sometime in the next two hours, 40 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: we're going to be giving away a week seventy fifth 41 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: anniversary thirty nine Ford Coop die Cast car and we 42 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: know how you all look forward to that, So maybe 43 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: you can get Dad a an early late Father's Day gift. 44 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: Won't be there tomorrow, it won't be there this weekend, 45 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: but maybe you can just stick a picture of it 46 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: in his wallet or in his card and to say, hey, Dad, 47 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: this is coming to you as soon as it gets here, 48 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: if you're looky enough to call it. And the decisions 49 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 1: are the judges that being are one and only producer 50 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: that we'll be making that decision. You can ask Harry 51 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: and uh see if you can convince him to give 52 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: you that die cast car. But in any event, Tony 53 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: says no, So we're gonna leave it up to Tony 54 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: and Harry. They're gonna douke it out because I know 55 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: Tony really wants to take that car home himself. Speaking 56 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: of cars and speaking of diagnosis and everything else, an 57 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: interesting story this week at the shop P. Zero one 58 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: seven one, And we're trying something new. I've I've just 59 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: post did out on YouTube a video P. Zero one 60 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: seven one diagnosis on the Car Doctor YouTube channel, and 61 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: I've got it up on the Facebook page ron Ninny 62 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: in the Car Doctor, And it's basically an explanation of 63 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: what I'm going to talk about right here and now, 64 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: and the video doesn't do it justice, and how I 65 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: talk about it here we won't do it justice. It's 66 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: probably something you need the benefit of looking at both, 67 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: are listening to both to fully comprehend. P zero one 68 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: seven one is a lean fuel condition. It's something that 69 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: you've all seen or encountered driving a car in this 70 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: day and age, where the onboard computer sees fuel trim 71 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: sees the balance of air to fuel go out to 72 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: the level that all of a sudden, it's running to 73 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: lean on bank one if it's a four cylinder, or 74 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: bank one, not yet bank two if it's a V six, 75 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: and so on. P zero one seven one refers to 76 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: the cylinders, the bank of cylinders were cylinder number one 77 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: is located. That being said, here's a quick diagnosis. Keep 78 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: in mind that P zero one seven and one will 79 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: set and for some reason one seven one set on 80 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: this car first, but it doesn't exclude the fact that 81 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: the engine could be running lean on both banks. So 82 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: the first thing you want to do is always go 83 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: in and look. Obviously, after you get the code, take 84 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: a look at freeze frame data. Freeze frame is the 85 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: video snapshot of what that vehicle was going through the 86 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: approximate conditions of what was happening when that failure occurred, 87 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: such that it caused the computer to turn on the 88 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: light and say I got a problem. Sometimes you will 89 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: see fuel trim. If zero is a perfect mixture, you'll 90 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: see fuel trim on one seven one as a failure 91 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: in excess of But if bank too, if it's a 92 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: V six or V eight, if Bank two has fuel 93 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: trim approaching sixteen percent seventeen percent, that may not be 94 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: enough to turn on the light, but it's surely enough 95 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: to let us know that this problem is both banks. 96 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: In the case of this two thousand Toyota Avalon that 97 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: I was working on this week at the shop at Ariota, 98 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: mode of this was a fuel trim problem on both banks. 99 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: When I looked at fuel trim for Banks one and 100 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: to Bank one had set the fault, but Bank two 101 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: is creeping up. It was only a couple of percentage 102 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: points behind. And the importance of this is listen, if 103 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: it was just Bank one and it's a V six, 104 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: what am I looking for. I'm looking for a vacuum 105 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: leak that would only create an issue on Bank one. 106 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: If it's something strongest devidle or I'm looking for a 107 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: failure that's only bank one, perhaps an air fuel or 108 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: an oxygen sensor that is skewed and affecting fuel trim 109 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: on bank one. But in this case it was both banks. 110 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: The one common thing to both banks on many cars 111 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: today are mass airflow sensors. Mass airflow sensors are a 112 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: chronic problem, especially as they get milege, especially as they 113 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: get older. Now, one of the simplest measurements to use 114 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: when you're diagnosing a mass air flow or what you 115 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: see as a potential mass airflow sensor is to take 116 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: a look at something called calculated load. Calculated load is 117 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: a measurement of how the scan tool will report air ingestion. 118 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: Think of it. Take a breath, go breathe in, breathe 119 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: in really hard. There's a difference there, all right. Your 120 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: volumetric efficiency or how well you fill your lungs is different. 121 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: In both of those cases. The computer knows this. The 122 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: onboard computer is looking at volumetric efficiency or how well 123 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: the engine is filling with air, and it returns a 124 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: calculated load value. It says, hey, it's it's being efficient 125 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: or fifty, or it's running it's six and so on 126 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: at wide open throttle. Don't care who makes the car 127 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: at wide open throttle, non turbo charge, non supercharged, normally aspirated, 128 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna have to put that caveat in here. 129 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: A normally aspirated engine wide open throttle will generally produce 130 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: between ninety and calculated load as of value. So we've 131 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: got a car that's running lean. Let's get mass airflow 132 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: out of the way, and you can go through lab 133 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: scope and there's a bunch of ways to look at 134 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: grams per second. It's a everybody's probably got their own method, 135 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: but calculated load has been proven time and again, in 136 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: my opinion, to be one of the most accurate. You're 137 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: gonna go out, you're gonna cruise along second gear, let's 138 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: say twenty miles and put your foot through the headlight. 139 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: You're looking at it on a scan tool. And the 140 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: nice thing is if you're using a good scan tool. 141 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: I was using the launch x four thirty one Pad two, 142 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: which has record capability and also graphing capability. I had 143 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: it in graph mode. I didn't have to watch the 144 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: scan tool. I could watch the road. I did a 145 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: couple of hard polls. First, step out of the gate. 146 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: I really achieved a sixty one percent I'm sorry it 147 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: was it's sixty or sixty calculated load value. You'll see 148 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: it in the video. But it doesn't matter because the 149 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: point is I only achieved calculated load. It's not nearly enough. 150 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: Brought the car back, took the mass airflow censor out, 151 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: looked at it. I could see schmutz. Schmutz is a 152 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: technical term, all right on the sensor. Cleaned it because 153 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: that schmutz insulates how does sensor perceives air volume and 154 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: temperature depending upon which part of the censor we're talking about. 155 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: Put the censor back in, followed the manufacturer suggestions on 156 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: how to clean it, put the center back in the car, 157 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: took it for another rod calculated load. And the key 158 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: here is about consistency. You're trying to do this the 159 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: same way every time, and it's a little bit of 160 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: an acquired taste and acquired talent. You gotta know, you know, 161 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: how did I hit it, how did I accelerate, what 162 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: speed was I in? What what was I doing at 163 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: that moment? You want to try and be very repetitious. 164 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 1: Here achieved a calculated load value of se hey we're 165 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: going in the right direction, went through, replace the mass 166 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: airflow sensor, same tost did it four times with the 167 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: new mass airflow sensor in the car and achieved a 168 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: calculated load around Wow. Big jump. Now in the video 169 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: you'll see I show you a picture of the air 170 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: filter that I took out. Wasn't the worst, wasn't the best, 171 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: but it was just enough that made me think, hey, 172 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: and it was also an off brand, which wasn't Really 173 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: that's something I look at. I look at the quality 174 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: of air filters in terms of we don't want to 175 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: use anything cheap. Put a dense o air filter in it, 176 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: went out and did the same test, picked up two 177 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: percentage points calculated load. The car was fixed. So my 178 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: point is in the bottom line becomes the diagnosis isn't 179 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: hard in a lot of cases. It just takes common 180 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: sense and it takes some due diligence. What are you 181 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: trying to achieve in the end, Even with all the 182 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: technology that's on a car today, it still takes some 183 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: common sense and basic understanding and principles. Diagnosing this was 184 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: no different than diagnosing a car with a carburetor and 185 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: a stuck metering rot or. Dirt in the main jet. 186 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: It's just the idea that now I have the ability 187 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: to look at things electronically, to look at calculated load 188 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: as a as a value coming out of the scan tool. 189 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: Which here's a case where everybody complains about technology. Technology 190 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: really helped me fix this car. Get out to Facebook, 191 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: get out to YouTube. You'll see the video P zero 192 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 1: one seven one. Look up me Ron and Eining in 193 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: the car doctor and you will see it there. In 194 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: the end, this car was fixed and I was able 195 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: to give it back to the customer confident. Hey, problem 196 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: solved and it was clear cut bad mass airflow sensor. 197 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 1: Just another way to look at it, and something else 198 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: for you to think about rather than guests one A 199 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: couple of the finer points, and I can talk about 200 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: P zero one seven one, P zero one seven uh 201 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 1: four fold codes one seven two fold codes. All day long. 202 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: I didn't see a change in fuel trim at IDLE. 203 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: If this was strictly an IDOL only lean fuel code, 204 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: i'd be looking for a vacuum leak, and only a 205 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: vacuum leak, something that affects it at IDLE. But this 206 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: was under load. When this vehicle went lean and That's 207 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: what told me I've got something. I'm dealing with something 208 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: with air ingestion, and I found all kinds of things. Listen. 209 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: I found one time a customer did their own air 210 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: filter and ever since the check engine light was on, 211 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: they forgot to take it out of the plastic bag. 212 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: They thought the plastic bag was supposed to be wrapped 213 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: around the air filter to help keep it clean, which 214 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: it was. The problem is the engine camp breathe through 215 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: a plastic bag just like a person couldn't, and it 216 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: created all sorts of issues in terms of the way 217 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: that vehicle run zero zero running any of the car Doctor, 218 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: I'm coming back to a full phone board. Stay tuned. 219 00:11:30,200 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: We'll return right after this in the endless damn. Hey, 220 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: welcome back. Why don't they need the car doctor here? 221 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: Let's go over and talk to Greg and Yonkers, New 222 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: York Grey. Welcome to the Car Doctor, Sir, how can 223 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: I help the afternoon run? This is Greg the TV guy. 224 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: You We've communicated absolutely. How's it going? Man? Uh? Not 225 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: so good with my Lexus again with with the ninety 226 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: seven Lexus, my traction and ABS light has been flashing 227 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: and I had read that the speed it might be 228 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: the speed center. But when I put the emergency brake on, 229 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: shut the car off, then then release the break and 230 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: then turned the car on, it goes out, okay, and 231 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: then when does it does? When does it come back on? 232 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: Once the car starts rolling? And then well, what it'll 233 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: do is it'll stay out for a while and then 234 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: like say I started up the next morning, it'll be 235 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: on again and start flashing. Okay. So, by chance do 236 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: you have the ability to scanner for coach greg Um? 237 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: I think I can get somebody to scan it it. 238 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: Probably I probably need a good scan tool, right, well, 239 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: you need something beyond generic O B D two. You know, 240 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: a launch scan tool do it? Obviously a snap bott 241 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: will do it. You know, the factory scan tool will 242 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: do it. I mean, there's a hundred ways to go 243 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: at this. But you know, starting to well, if I 244 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: pull this up, if I you know, it sort of 245 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: sounds like listen, if if I scratch my head, if 246 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: I turned the key to the right, if I put 247 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: the left window down, the light goes out. If I 248 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: open the trunk, the light comes back on. What do 249 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: you think it could be? Um, let's go in and 250 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: get the information that that the manufacturer put in there, 251 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: let's scan it, let's let's you know as much as 252 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: I know it's it's painful for you because I know 253 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: you're an old school technology guy. Um. You know, listen, 254 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: I still remember the seventies seven or was it seventy 255 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: seven or seventy eight Chevy and pala Wagon you had. Um, 256 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: why would the emergency break effect that? Though I don't know, 257 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, I can tell you. I can tell 258 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: you if you give me a fault coat. Um, I wouldn't. 259 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't worry about why the emergency brake affects it 260 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: more so than I want to know what the fault 261 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: code is, and then I can work my way backwards 262 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: and say, okay, it comes from this, it comes from that. 263 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: Now I can't tell you this, you know, because failures 264 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: on this particular car aren't super common. There is one area. 265 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,479 Speaker 1: There's a bolletin out from Lexus that talks about problems 266 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: with the rear ABS speed sensor where it loops up 267 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: against the body and you want to be sure that 268 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: it isn't pinched up there. You didn't hit a pothole 269 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: and somehow tear the wiring harness. Have you looked around 270 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: under the car at the wheel speed sensors. Um no, 271 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: I haven't done that yet. In the back right, right, 272 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: correct and listen. Anytime a problem like this happens, a 273 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: good visual of everything is always the way to go. 274 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: All right, you know, let's do a visual inspection. Let's 275 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: look at sensors, Let's look at wiring. Let's look at 276 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: the tone rings if if they're accessible and visible on 277 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: this particular car. I think the fronts are hidden, and 278 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: I think the rears are buried in the rear hubs. 279 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: But you can still see the uh, you can still 280 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: see where the sensors come into the tone rings. And 281 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: you know, just keep in mind there's a lot of 282 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of debris on the road. You'd be 283 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: surprised what what bounces up and hits a car during 284 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: sixty and the damage it will do. Okay, so I 285 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: guess I'll just go through. I have to look at 286 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: all the wheels, the wheel centers, and then try to 287 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: scan it right and definitely scan it, you know, if 288 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: if if it's giving you listen, the car is trying 289 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: to help you, all right. And I know you're old school, 290 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: like so many of the guys, out there. But embrace it, man. 291 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: Just take it by the hand and say, okay, I 292 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: love you, how can you help me? And just listen 293 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: to the code it wants to give you. You know, 294 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: if if all of a sudden it starts sprouting off 295 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: and it's giving you a twenty two or twenty three, 296 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: twenty four wheel speed sensor faults, hey, that's good news. 297 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: It tells you what direction to look in, all right, 298 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: and then we could have the conversation. There's there's probably 299 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: something with strategy that creates when you pull up on 300 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: the parking break it. It turns the light out or 301 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: changes the way the system responds. But for now, I'm 302 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: not into that. I want to know why the lights 303 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: coming on. I want to scan it. And if you 304 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: scan it and don't get a fault code, then that's 305 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: a different conversation. All right, Okay, so the code. So 306 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: once I get the code, and then that code stays 307 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: in there, right, it should be in there in history, Yeah, 308 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: depending upon how long it's been since the last time 309 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: the light was on. All right, Listen, if one of 310 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: the let me ask you a question. If one of 311 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: the cameras at the TV station was broken and your 312 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: and your thirty seconds to air. What are you gonna 313 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: do to fix it? You can switch to another camera, 314 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: try to fix it right, or try to fix it quickly. 315 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: But you would you would. You wouldn't sit there and 316 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: analyze could be You would just Hey, I gotta get 317 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: into this. I gotta get information. That's my point, all right, brother, 318 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: So don't appreciate ron and have an advanced happy for 319 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: this day. Thank you, sir, and my best to you 320 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: and everybody out there. Way of Yonker so as always 321 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: a pleasure. Let's go over and talk to Jeff up 322 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: in Maine with a four f one fifty and some 323 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: questions about spark plugs. Yes, Jeff, how can I help 324 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: you run on any of a car? Doctorate your servicer? Well, 325 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: it's about the coil. I've got a I've got a 326 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: cold of t oh three oh one, and then I 327 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: got a p O three oh five. Okay, so cylinders 328 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: one in five? Go ahead? So is one in five? Now? 329 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: I was gonna buy coils, and I see them on 330 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: lines like dolls, for like six of them. But then 331 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: I then I go back and I check, and everybody's 332 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: saying how they're not working? And some close Oh absolutely 333 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: but here, let's let's try this before we just randomly 334 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: swap coils in this have you you know before we 335 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: just put coils in it? This is this is a V. 336 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: This is a V A correct is a four six 337 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: V A? Ye? Right, okay, So why don't we take 338 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: the coil from cylinder one, stick it in cylinder three. 339 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: Let's take the coil from Let's let's take the spark 340 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: for it from cylinder one and stick it in cylinder too. 341 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: In other words, move the coil and plug around and 342 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: consequently take the ones from the other cylinders and put 343 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: them back where that was, and then write it down 344 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: so you don't get confused, and then drive it. Clear 345 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: the code, drive it and try and duplicate the code. 346 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: Does the same fault happen again, telling you it's on 347 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: cylinder one. If the problem follows the coil, it's the coil. 348 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: If the problem follows the plug, it's the plug. If 349 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 1: the problem stays with cylinder one, it's something mechanical or 350 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: its fuel injector related on that particular cylinder. As far 351 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: as the price of coils, the twenty nine dollar coils 352 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: aren't worth anything. Just go buy the good quality stuff, 353 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: because yes, there is a huge difference in the quality 354 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: of coils. I'm ronding in the car. Doctor. We're back 355 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: right after this. Hey, ronding in the car, doctor, rolling 356 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: along this hour. Thanks for spending some time with this 357 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: this weekend, and I appreciate it each and every weekend. 358 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: And uh for all of you that take the time 359 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: to include me in part of your um. You're you're 360 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: listening time, your self care time, as it were. And 361 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: I hope you're getting something out of this. And I 362 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: know why do I enjoy talking to each and every 363 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: one of you each and every week. So let's, uh, 364 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: let's just pull over without any further are doing a 365 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: great deal of fuss and go talk to Paul Eisenstein 366 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: the Detroit Bureau dot com. It's always a pleasure to 367 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: have Paul with us, and we're glad he took some 368 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: time out today to spend it with us. Paul, Welcome back, sir, 369 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: ay good to be with you. What's going on in 370 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: the world of Paul Eisenstein? Oh man, question great? Well, 371 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 1: take and taken of a break. I'm actually comae. Are 372 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: they doing about three hours of kayaking? Just came in, 373 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: uh to catch you cool? Um, I see a lot 374 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: of things going on in the automotive world. I've been 375 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: reading the Detroit Bureau dot com every day faithfully, and 376 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: some of the stories they are just, uh, they're a 377 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: little nerve racking. Um, this this thing with Mercedes and 378 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: the and the gray zone and autonomous technologies. Can you 379 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: talk to us about that? Yeah, you know, this is 380 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: an interesting story. I I think one of the most 381 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: I've done. Quite aw Uh. First of all, I got 382 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: a chance this past week to drive the new Mercedes 383 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: E three hundred. Are you familiar with that Cardinal? Not yet? No, 384 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 1: That's why I was reading the article. Yeah. Well, the 385 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: East hundred is the latest dat of Mercedes, a very 386 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: popular midsized sedan, and it is loaded with so much 387 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: technology they reasonably claim it to be the most intelligent 388 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: car in the world now. It has the ability not 389 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: only to detect the potential collision going forward, but to 390 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: apply the brakes. It can detect pedestrians. It can detect 391 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: pedestrians when you back up. It can tell whether or 392 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: not a car might accidentally hit you from the side. 393 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: We're here's something interesting. It has the ability to actually 394 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: push you to the center of the vehicle, away from 395 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: the door in case you're about to be hit from 396 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: the side t bones. One of the most how is 397 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: it going to do that? What has it got an 398 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: inflatable bag? But well, it uses where to be able 399 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: to tell that somebody is running a red light, let's say, 400 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: or uh stop sign. But then it uses the bladder 401 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 1: in the seats, you know. It has those little bolsters 402 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: on the side that actually inflate almost instantaneously to push 403 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: you about three inches towards the center away from the door. Now, 404 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: one of the other features that they have is called 405 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: steering assist, So for example, let's say there's a collision, 406 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: it can actually help steer you around it. And there's 407 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: another feature which is uh something that a lot of 408 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: folks I think are gonna find interesting. It has a 409 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: steering system that let's say you're on an interstate and 410 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: you're coming up on the guy in front of you, 411 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: and the guy's going slow and you want to pass. Well, 412 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: instead of actually having to uh steer yourself around the 413 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: car in front, you simply tap on the turn signal, 414 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: wait two seconds, and this car will pass and then 415 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: pull back into your lane. Don't you think are creating 416 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, it almost seems like t ball from the eighties, Right, 417 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: everybody gets a trophy, everybody wins. Don't you think we're 418 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: creating an environment or you know, we're creating distracted driving? 419 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: This is a very interesting thing. It gets back to 420 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: the effect that you asked me about this gray area. Uh. Now, 421 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: if if you look at some of the estimates out there, 422 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: there are those who believe that all the autonomous technology 423 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: coming could virtually eliminate highway fatalities. And the reality is 424 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: around of all crashes are the result of human error. 425 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,479 Speaker 1: So we talk about, oh, shouldn't humans keep driving, Well, 426 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: the fact is we're responsible for most of the crashes 427 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: and there are about thirty three thousand people a year dying, 428 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: most of those because of human mistakes. So the the 429 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: argument is that technology can do a better job, particularly 430 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: when people are driving on the freeway, they're stuck in traffic, 431 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: they tend to get distracted and so on. Are you 432 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: familiar with forward collision warning or forward collision warning emergency braking, Well, 433 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety recently did a study 434 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: and they compared identical cars with and without the technology, 435 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,959 Speaker 1: because you know, it's optional on a lot of vehicles, 436 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: and those that had auto braking auto emergency braking had 437 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: thirty two percent fewer forward crashes. Wow, but at what? 438 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: At what price? Poll? Because then you know, part of 439 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: this conversation has to be Okay, we can put something 440 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: as complicated or more complicated than the Space Shuttle in 441 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: your driveway, who's going to fix it? And? Well, that 442 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: that is an interesting question. Now you already have more 443 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: lines of software code in your vehicle then the shuttle. 444 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: You have more lines of code than the brand new 445 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: Air Force F thirty five. It's over a hundred million 446 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: line of code. The interesting thing is that all these 447 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: new features are to a large degree using the same 448 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: technology we had here or to go on your vehicle. 449 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: In others, if your card a camera, it's just getting 450 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: smarter about using the camera for that laser or that radar. 451 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: There'll be a few more piece of hardware, but a 452 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: lot of what's coming will be using software rather than hardware. 453 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: And as you know, Tesla has already gotten to the 454 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: point where if they have a problem, they can update 455 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: it remotely through what's called o T a over the 456 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: air updates, very similar to what happens with your smartphone. 457 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: And I think that's great I think, you know what 458 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: I think if sometimes I think Tesla is is picked 459 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: on for what they're trying to do because I think 460 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: they are sort of turning the world on it's here, 461 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: and I think they have that ability to really achieve 462 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: some great things. And they're doing some great things, and 463 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: there's some some downsides. I'm gonna be reporting soon about 464 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: some quality issues that they have, but uh, look for 465 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: that in an upcoming story on the Detroit Bureau dot com. 466 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: Did you ever did you ever stop to think, well, 467 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: did you ever stop to think things like what Tesla 468 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: is doing are really you know, development of the electric 469 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: vehicle not just for here. But I always look at it. 470 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit of a science fiction buff, but 471 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: I think about it. You know, are we trying to 472 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: take that electronic technology to other planets when we go 473 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: to Mars and the and the rest of the universe. 474 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: You wonder, right, well, well, you'll you'll probably have that 475 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: technology show up in all sorts of things. We mentioned 476 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: the the Space Shuttle and the F thirty five. Look 477 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: at look at the SpaceX rocket that Elon Musk's other 478 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: company has it just recently landed us. I think a 479 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: second time successfully after the first stage booster separated and 480 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 1: sent the satellite into orbit. The booster landed on a 481 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: on a platform out in the ocean. So you know, 482 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: everything's getting smarter. Your home is getting smarter. Now here's 483 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: here's the real concern. Uh, how do you deal with 484 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: the issue of legislation, How do you deal with regulations 485 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: and rules? And traditionally run the FEDS took the lead. 486 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: In other words, you didn't do anything as an automaker 487 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: unless it was already essentially mandated. Simply changing a warning 488 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: light color in a vehicle might have required a year 489 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: or two of study and golemaking before you were allowed 490 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: to say, go from blue to red or red to blue. Now, 491 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: the new head of NITZA, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, 492 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: a guy named Mark Rosekind, is taking a very different approach. 493 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: He is cracking down on safety lapses, you know, with 494 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: the Takata airbag mess, the General Motors ignition switch mess, 495 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: and so on. But he's also saying to automakers, we're 496 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: going to give you more free rein to start developing 497 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: and using some of these new technologies in your car 498 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: before we do the regulations. Because the regulations could take 499 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: five years for technology that's available today and ready to 500 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: save lives now. And that's that's that's what they're chasing. Yeah, 501 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: I can see that. Yeah. And and and to your 502 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: point before, there's a lot of technologies, a lot of software. 503 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: We know that cell phones don't always work right, that 504 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: that our laptops and tablets don't always work right. So 505 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: so that the question is are we pushing a little 506 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: too far out there? And I found it interesting the 507 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: Mercedes people said they were worried about some technology. They 508 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: decided not to put it in their new car, the 509 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: new WE class, because they thought they did maybe go 510 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: a little bit too far. Well, and I think it's 511 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: it's coming down to the point of whether it's an 512 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: independent repair shop or a dealership, the level of technician 513 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,479 Speaker 1: is only going to be so far. I mean, they 514 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: can only go so you know, to this level. Who's 515 00:27:55,359 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: going to fix it? Um that that that's of course yeah, yeah, 516 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: And of course the cost of the technology when it 517 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: does go bad. The good news is all this all 518 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: the hardware that's needed for all these systems, the cameras, 519 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: the laser units, light are they call some of the 520 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: newer lasers technology see the radar and everything else. Those 521 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: costs are coming down, which is why you're seeing a 522 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 1: lot of this technology show up in more mainstream vehicles. 523 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: When when ABS first came to market almost thirty years ago, 524 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: you've been around long enough you probably remember it was 525 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: a seventeen hundred dollar options and now it's now, it's 526 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a fraction of that. Hey, Paul, we're 527 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: gonna pull over and take a pause. When we come back, 528 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about Volkswagen and 529 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: their concept of thirty battery cars. So absolutely stay tuned. 530 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. I'm on ning the Car Doctor 531 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: with Paul Eyes instide of the Detroit Bureau Detroit Bureau 532 00:28:54,080 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: dot com. We'll be back right after this. Welcome back. 533 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: We're needy of the car Doctor here with Paul Eisensteiner 534 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: the trip ere the trip eau dot com chatting it 535 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: up as always, Paul. We pulled away and we were 536 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: talking about we wanted to get into a little bit 537 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: with our time left Volkswagen. You know that one of 538 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: your articles on the website that the trip erero dot 539 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: com vw set to launch over thirty battery cars by well, 540 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, not to be blunt, But don't they have 541 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: enough problems making diesels now they want to worry about 542 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: electric cars? Yeah, well, I think maybe that's why they're 543 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: talking about it. In fact, the settlement that they're supposed 544 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: to announce with the with the feds here in the 545 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: US UH to solve their diesel problem is going to 546 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: involve them agreeing to do more to clean up their emissions. 547 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: So that's one of the reasons they're gonna be launching 548 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: more electric cars. Remember, these are going to be all 549 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: sorts of different brands, So we'll we'll see, I believe 550 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: it or not, We're about We're about to see a 551 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: Bentley plug in hybrid. Remember Bentley is owned by VW. 552 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: We're going to see the Porsche mission E, a Tesla 553 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: fighter built by Porsche, and of course plenty of vehicles 554 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: under the VW brand. But how can you ask this? 555 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: You know, their their stock just took a serious hit, right, 556 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,959 Speaker 1: How deep can their pockets be that they can afford 557 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: this technology? Well, that's an interesting question. Uh, they are, 558 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,479 Speaker 1: they are hurting a bit. Uh. In fact, there's some 559 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: talk that they may sell off some of their assets 560 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: to help cover for the for the disaster. With the diesel. 561 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: But I think that the reality is that everybody is 562 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: going to be spending a lot of money to electrify. 563 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,719 Speaker 1: Believe it or not, We're to see a lot more 564 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: electric cars going forward, even Volvo. I had a chance 565 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: to drive the new Volvo S nineties sedan and I 566 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: broke a story that they are getting ready to roll 567 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: out a bunch of electric vehicles from the Volvo brand 568 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: as well. Isn't it going to be interesting to see? 569 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: You know? And I look at this and I say, 570 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: the price of gasoline is going to change because the 571 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: barrel of oil is going to become less because we're 572 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: gonna have more electric cars and less demand. So in theory, 573 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: the automobile is going to change the political situations around 574 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: the world and the Middle East. Do you ever think 575 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: about it like that? That's the great irony, isn't it 576 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: that the more the more electric cars we have, the 577 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: lower demand for oil. You would hope, the lower the 578 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: price will be. Though of course, look what's happened lately. Uh, 579 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: there's a blood of oil. They can't find places to 580 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: store it, and guess prices are going up again? Right? Well, 581 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: that's listen, I think we all know what that is. 582 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: That's the manipulation of the marketplace. They're just you know, 583 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: summers here, and they're just for whatever reason. And if 584 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: we ask the politicians why, just my just my opinion, 585 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: just conjecture, If we ask the politicians why, they'll tell 586 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: us that, hey, you know, it's just all about uh, 587 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: summertime volatility and changes and blends a fuel and all 588 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,719 Speaker 1: the other reasons they come up with. But it's all 589 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: about making money while they can. And we'll see if 590 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: that changes or not. So um, but anyway, listen as always, sir, 591 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure to talk to you, and I'm 592 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: glad you took some time out and um, you keep 593 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: us suppressed. I enjoy that. I enjoy the website. And 594 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: if the listeners haven't gotten out to the Detroit Bureau 595 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: dot com, they should because you guys have it going on. 596 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: You've got the most updated, constantly changing, best news source 597 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: of the auto industry as far as I'm concerned. Oh, 598 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: thank you. It's always a pleasure to be with you. 599 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: So you take good care, Paul, and have a good 600 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: rest of the weekend. Bye. I'm running any in the car. Doctor. 601 00:32:43,080 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: We are back right after this. Hey, welcome back. Why 602 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: don't the need of the car doctor? You know, I 603 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,719 Speaker 1: wanted to take this segment and talk a little bit 604 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: about I have in front of me a dealer flyer, 605 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: one of the local dealers is advertising conventional oil change, 606 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: and talk about how we should all go out to 607 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: the dealer and have the oil changes done there and 608 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: turn down all the additional work that they, you know, 609 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: somehow find wrong with the car and also of it's legit. 610 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: But I just wonder what would happen if we kind 611 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: of beat them up on these cheap oil changes that 612 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: they're always trying to do. Would they get the point 613 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: that an oil change was supposed to be professional and 614 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: supposed to be thorough and not just necessarily cheap. And 615 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: then Frank called Frank from Congress New York. Frank, are 616 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: you there, sir? Good? Always always always a pleasure, always 617 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: a pleasure. You're right, you go down there, you go 618 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: put oil change. You know, well, you need to belt, 619 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: you need this, you need that, and you're walking out 620 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: with three right, and that's that's what they're looking for. Now. 621 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: You know what, Frank, we kind of segued you into 622 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: this and we've got you set up now because now 623 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: you're officially part of the show. So we have a 624 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: question for you. All right, you're ready, here, here, here 625 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: it comes. We know we know you're we know you're 626 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 1: a volunteer fireman up there in Congress, New York. So 627 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 1: if you do, you've been talking to Steve No no, no, 628 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: so we know that you know we're talking about change 629 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: and fast. Harry, our executive producer, had this question up 630 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: a good point. Who changes the oil on? Who changes 631 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: the oil on the fire trucks? And how many gallons 632 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: of oil do they take? Well, let's say your truth. 633 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: It's a lot of oil. But Russkan ruscan Works start 634 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: the work, and we're very fortunate to have Russkan in 635 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: Congers and he takes kit the system with the Congress 636 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: by up me and a lot of others West chatter 637 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: outside Rockland. They do all the servicing, so he can 638 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: certified mechanics, runs a street show and of a great job. Well, 639 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: tip of the hat to him. And I'm sure there's 640 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: gallons of oil in those trucks, not not courts. I'm 641 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: sure it's mizard in gallons and not uh not courts. Anyway, 642 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: I got a minute left, Franks, I believe. I believe 643 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: they get two services. I believe they get a spring 644 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: and a full service, and it's probably gone over on 645 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 1: top of everything we do. Listen real quick, you're gonna 646 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: say something. I got thirty seconds. What do you you 647 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: wanted to say something? Second, I want to wish you 648 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: happy father this day. Everybody on the crew and all 649 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 1: the listeners Happy Fathers Day, and just take it cool 650 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 1: to mow and just just uh, enjoy your your tool, 651 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: enjoy what we have in the United States of America. Hey, 652 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: you know what Frank State put. We're gonna send you 653 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,959 Speaker 1: out the Which die cast car, the seventy fifth anniversary edition, 654 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: the thirty nine for hot Rod from the folks at 655 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: which which filters dot com. So you stay in your seat, 656 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: let Harry get your information and we'll get that out 657 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: to you. And we want to thank you for those 658 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: kind thoughts for all the listeners, and we wish you 659 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: back to you a happy Father's Day as well. I'm 660 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 1: not an ani in the card doctor, reminding you once 661 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: again good mechanics aren't expensive, They're priceless. See you