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Speaker 3: So here is where we find out that Kirk has
Speaker 3: just a quarter of a million dollars and that he
Speaker 3: has also put down an offer on the Twickham House.
Speaker 4: I just love that he acknowledged he had like ten
Speaker 4: thousand jobs.
Speaker 5: Fifteen thousands, yeah, fifteen thousands. I just love that he acknowledged,
Speaker 5: Like we say it every week, but like for him
Speaker 5: to actually say it is really funny.
Speaker 6: It also establishes Luke as being like, because he says
Speaker 6: it himself, who has that here except for me?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 6: Like it does it does establish him as probably the
Speaker 6: wealthiest man in stars Hollow. Yeah, Kirk doesn't pay rent
Speaker 6: minus Kirk now, but yeah.
Speaker 3: Well right, Kirk has that money because he has literally
Speaker 3: never had to spend a dime other than the dollar
Speaker 3: ten on the toes it has.
Speaker 1: But Luke has a greater net worth. He is, He's
Speaker 1: got for sure, please far more. Oh, yeah, Kirk has.
Speaker 3: It is interesting though that you may not be as
Speaker 3: sign What is it when you when you don't have
Speaker 3: a lot of cash? You see, did not have as
Speaker 3: much in the bank for the down payment as Kirk does.
Speaker 1: Well you know, I think.
Speaker 3: Liquid, that's the word liquid. Yeah, and he's got two
Speaker 3: hundred and forty seven thousand dollars. Could somebody do the math?
Speaker 3: How old is Kirk? Oh, it's not actually as much
Speaker 3: as you would think, because if he's been working for say,
Speaker 3: say he looks like thirties.
Speaker 7: Right, he said eleven years.
Speaker 3: Eleven years, So what's quarter of a million divided by
Speaker 3: eleven he's only been making twenty two thousand dollars a
Speaker 3: year's actually.
Speaker 1: Because you have to account for the compounded interest that
Speaker 1: you know what.
Speaker 3: But we didn't account for taxes. I didn't account for taxes.
Speaker 3: So yes, but I didn't account for taxes, so he not.
Speaker 1: He hasn't paid taxes yet.
Speaker 3: No, he's paid. He had to pay taxes on his income.
Speaker 1: Actually, you know what, he's just compiling cash, so he's
Speaker 1: not reporting it. He's not. He's right.
Speaker 3: So I think he was making forty thousand dollars a year,
Speaker 3: so that he was his net was twenty two thousand,
Speaker 3: and that's how he got to the quarter of a million,
Speaker 3: you know. So it's doable. It's very believable. It's believable.
Speaker 1: Anyway, maybe he got Hollywood threw a lot of money
Speaker 1: at him for those films by Kirk oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and when he's nickel and diming the toast.
Speaker 3: Like he had some jobs that are yeah, some jobs
Speaker 3: that are pretty good. I also like that we talked
Speaker 3: a lot about stars Hollow Bang oh. And then we
Speaker 3: go into the weird sauna wasn't it a sauna? And
Speaker 3: we see the town elders for the one and only
Speaker 3: time in the run of the series.
Speaker 6: I was interested. I was so upsetsed that the wise
Speaker 6: one had the towel over his head, like.
Speaker 1: It was like it was so good.
Speaker 3: His voice sort of reminded me of Patrick Stewart. I
Speaker 3: was like, Jean Lucard under.
Speaker 5: There, No, that was I was just confused, and Scott
Speaker 5: was like, who are these people? I'm like, I'm not Scott, sorry, Luke.
Speaker 5: When Luke was like who are these people, I'm like,
Speaker 5: don't they do they not know?
Speaker 3: Yes? They do? Does he say that?
Speaker 7: Yeah, he does because he.
Speaker 3: Knows those are the elders because they knew him and
Speaker 3: they knew his father. And I don't know the.
Speaker 5: Exact line, but it was something alluding to that, which
Speaker 5: I was like, wait a minute. And then the guy
Speaker 5: was like, I knew Luke's grandfather.
Speaker 1: So there. So they're crystallizing this idea that Luke is
Speaker 1: doing it for the right reasons, which is why yes,
Speaker 1: which is why he got it, which is why he
Speaker 1: got the vote.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then he is most worthy and because of
Speaker 6: Lauraai and that he you know, like the whole thing.
Speaker 6: He's finally with Lorelai and this is what he should
Speaker 6: be doing, and he should get the house because he's.
Speaker 1: You know, in a town. It's good for every right,
Speaker 1: they're going to have children. That's good for the town.
Speaker 1: It's it creates more tax revenue for the town. He's
Speaker 1: creating more taxpayers and it's just good for the town.
Speaker 5: The line he said was Luke says, who are you
Speaker 5: guys anyway? What gives you authority to make town decisions?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 3: That's weird. Maybe he's just being sarcastic.
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe it was just the line that threw me off.
Speaker 5: I'm like, haven't we I mean, I thought we've seen
Speaker 5: these guys before, So okay.
Speaker 3: We then see her eating the apple she thinks she's pregnant.
Speaker 3: I did sort of think it was a funny callback
Speaker 3: to the opening when she says, I don't have a
Speaker 3: hankering for fruit, which makes sense because they didn't want
Speaker 3: to dip the fruit and the chocolate, only the marshmallows.
Speaker 3: I thought the exchange.
Speaker 6: Although we all know, like after two days after having sex,
Speaker 6: you don't just randomly get crazy exactly.
Speaker 3: It takes.
Speaker 6: It takes at least a few week days.
Speaker 7: It was like it was like eighteen hours.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not gonna be eating an apple the morning after, Like,
Speaker 6: come on.
Speaker 3: Do you even think you're pregnant? Should we talk about
Speaker 3: that yet? Are you ready to talk about the sex talk? Danielle,
Speaker 3: didn't you have thoughts about her thinking she's pregnant. Are
Speaker 3: you there yet?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 6: I covered it because my whole thing was this is
Speaker 6: going to be this is going to be some kind
Speaker 6: of dividing.
Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you wanted to talk about her inability
Speaker 3: to have safe sex and how like? So what like
Speaker 3: I was like.
Speaker 6: Oh, no, I'll pass on that. Oh I was ready
Speaker 6: to go there.
Speaker 7: I'm like no, no, no.
Speaker 6: I was more about like, clearly the two of them
Speaker 6: are on different pages. That's where I was going.
Speaker 3: I was ready to be like, so do you are
Speaker 3: we talking about condom talk? Are we talking about birth
Speaker 3: control pill? What am I talking about?
Speaker 7: I think it's one of that Laura.
Speaker 5: I eats everything, so the only thing that would be
Speaker 5: an odd craving is something healthy.
Speaker 3: First of all. Also, back on the safe sex, she
Speaker 3: it's not like she doesn't sleep with the boyfriends. Like
Speaker 3: she slept with Jason, she slept with Max, She's had
Speaker 3: a few flings with Christopher. What kind of birth control
Speaker 3: is she using that? Suddenly it didn't do you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Nobody nobody thinks that.
Speaker 6: Sorry, I mean she was looking. She was looking at
Speaker 6: the floor, so I'm assuming she was looking for it.
Speaker 7: She doesn't remember, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, I thought she was just looking at the floor, like, oh,
Speaker 3: all the clothes are everywhere.
Speaker 6: No. I think she was like looking around. She's like
Speaker 6: clearly close her off and I don't see any sort
Speaker 6: of protection. So she's not on the pill, because the
Speaker 6: pill she would have been like, great, I'm on the.
Speaker 3: Pill, right, that wouldn't have been a problem.
Speaker 6: So I think it was probably there was no condom
Speaker 6: or something. H just my thought.
Speaker 3: Anyone else with thoughts, I could just feels like a
Speaker 3: little TMI, but I kind of want to go, what's
Speaker 3: going on why?
Speaker 1: I just thought she was anticipating the article coming out. Mother,
Speaker 1: tell closely. I follow things. My opinions may very depending
Speaker 1: on my state of consciousness.
Speaker 3: Look, I will admit I was very befuddled at the
Speaker 3: time too.
Speaker 1: I was like, I did I thought, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: when's this? She was going to drop here with the
Speaker 1: article also, which I found to be incredibly unsatisfying.
Speaker 3: So I have a few flags. So first of all,
Speaker 3: then she's on the phone, and right now we only
Speaker 3: have the tal.
Speaker 1: Talking about it. I'm out of flags. I need to
Speaker 1: borrow some flags.
Speaker 3: Ballerina, she got her Ballerina delivered. Who likes the magic
Speaker 3: eight ball, and she was so excited that Lorelai said
Speaker 3: the ballerina could have it. Okay.
Speaker 6: I thought lorlay was going to use the apall to
Speaker 6: see if she was pregnant or not.
Speaker 3: Okay, So then I thought this was so random. Did
Speaker 3: you guys notice that lare lies back at the hospital
Speaker 3: and she's sitting in the chair, I assume, sort of
Speaker 3: waiting to see what's happening with Suki, and a guy
Speaker 3: sits back to with just a giant plant with flowers
Speaker 3: in it.
Speaker 8: Today.
Speaker 3: I was like, what is that? Nobody noticed that.
Speaker 1: I was like, no, yeah, he was a regular extra.
Speaker 3: I was just like, that's like an extra. That's just
Speaker 3: can you imagine being the extra? And they're like, here,
Speaker 3: take this twenty pound pot filled with flowers and sit
Speaker 3: there and try to be inconspicuous. Okay. Well anyway, so
Speaker 3: then Rory's in the dining hall and they're talking that
Speaker 3: Laura could be pregnant, which was just way too much
Speaker 3: TMI for a mom to be telling a twenty year
Speaker 3: old kid.
Speaker 5: I was like, oh god, yeah, I feel like she
Speaker 5: would confide in Suki, but Suki was obviously yeah, well yeah, but.
Speaker 3: She's just like I just ate an apple and all
Speaker 3: roadblocks were down, and it was just I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, nobody wants to have that talk with
Speaker 3: her mom.
Speaker 1: She even said, you know, when these guys shoot, they
Speaker 1: score something.
Speaker 6: And then using it as an example for Rory, like,
Speaker 6: I just want to make sure you're protecting.
Speaker 5: I think if she just said that, like make sure
Speaker 5: you're you're staying safe, I think that would have been fine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but not not the details, and.
Speaker 3: It was just way too much. And then she's like
Speaker 3: totally fine and laugh.
Speaker 1: On the short they shoot and they score.
Speaker 3: It all made me laughing.
Speaker 1: You you got to assume when they shoot they score, right, so.
Speaker 3: Not notice that they just kept wheeling women around in
Speaker 3: a wheelchair. Just they kept having like extras way on camera,
Speaker 3: kind of getting wheeled around. It happened twice. I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: to just to prove that the ladies.
Speaker 5: Feels like she's seeing so many pregnant ladies around her.
Speaker 3: True, Oh yeah, it'd be kind of like in your face. Okay.
Speaker 3: So then we go to the conference.
Speaker 1: Delivering the.
Speaker 3: Delivering the big plastic baby, speaking of that was such
Speaker 3: a fake baby. But we'll get to that. We'll also
Speaker 3: get to the vasectomy thing, which is a total.
Speaker 1: That's my god, I ran out of flags. I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's when I was like, whoa, okay.
Speaker 3: Right, nobody gets a surprise visecto me for many reasons.
Speaker 1: One is and then gets to break go ahead, no
Speaker 1: you go, no you go.
Speaker 3: You still don't get to decide for your husband that
Speaker 3: they're getting a vasectomy. Like, no one's making a medical
Speaker 3: appointment for someone else. Even if you're married number one,
Speaker 3: number two, you're not getting like a same day vasectomy.
Speaker 3: You're not like, I just birthed the baby and I
Speaker 3: made a viseectmy appointment for you downstairs, so go down.
Speaker 1: What what a what a wonderful moment that he got
Speaker 1: to share with his new baby. Now he's gonna go
Speaker 1: get whacked, you know, And.
Speaker 3: There's got to be prep I also believe you have
Speaker 3: to in some way prepare for a vasectomy. You can't
Speaker 3: just spring it on you fifteen minutes before, right, Like
Speaker 3: I'm assuming you can't eat or drink before.
Speaker 1: At least that there's comedy, and then there's like weird,
Speaker 1: that was weird.
Speaker 3: That was weird, right?
Speaker 8: That was like a.
Speaker 1: Sketch comedy routine. You know that wasn't like, you know,
Speaker 1: millions of invested fans watching their beloved characters, and then
Speaker 1: Suki says, you know, you know, go cut the tube
Speaker 1: or whatever there is to cut, you know, go cut it.
Speaker 1: It's like, whoa right.
Speaker 3: Look, this says, no aspirin for seven to ten days
Speaker 3: prior to your vasectomy. You don't know that Jackson hasn't
Speaker 3: taken an aspirin. No anti inflammatory products for seven days,
Speaker 3: including ibuprofen. You can only take tail and all. Then
Speaker 3: you have to. This is what it says. How do
Speaker 3: I prepare my husband for a vasectomy? Schedule the date,
Speaker 3: decide together. These are the first two things. Stock up
Speaker 3: on essentials. I don't know what that is, make them
Speaker 3: a care package. Be sympathetic. She's not doing any of
Speaker 3: these things. No, wow, are you supposed to eat before
Speaker 3: a vasectomy? You must not eat anything from six hours
Speaker 3: before the operation? Like that? Like that made no sense.
Speaker 3: You may only take SIPs of water until two hours before.
Speaker 3: It doesn't come on. That doesn't It was crazy.
Speaker 1: It was It was maybe the most awkward Gilmore moment I've.
Speaker 3: Ever witnessed, because it was such hullable.
Speaker 1: It's like I've never seen anything like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the show is fairly realistic, which I say
Speaker 3: laughing that I'm even saying it, but like, no one's
Speaker 3: going for downstairs for their that mi sectomy.
Speaker 1: Under no circumstances. Is any husband going to agree to that, or.
Speaker 3: A doctor or the doctor that was my thing? Is like,
Speaker 3: not only no doctors agreed.
Speaker 1: To that, it was a They're going to deduct some
Speaker 1: points for that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a comedy stretch. Okay, So we've got
Speaker 3: Mitchell and Rory in the conference room. We find out
Speaker 3: Suki's had a girl, and we find out Loreales not pregnant.
Speaker 3: We're getting a lot all at once. And then we
Speaker 3: also find out like she never told Luke either way, right,
Speaker 3: like she never told him that she thought she was pregnant.
Speaker 3: She pregnant. We're having some secrets again, which are not great.
Speaker 1: I guess they're not that close. Mm hmm. I guess
Speaker 1: it's just like Burger Boy, just show up at eight
Speaker 1: and let's acadoodle and then going back to the dinner.
Speaker 1: It seems like a very convenient relationship for this time
Speaker 1: in her life, and she's enjoying it, which I suppose
Speaker 1: she feels she's entitled to That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look I laughed at when you say that,
Speaker 3: but like, right, she should be the first person she called,
Speaker 3: or she should have woke him up that morning and
Speaker 3: been like, oh my god, we just had wild sex.
Speaker 3: What if I'm pregnant? Like I just you're right, she's
Speaker 3: not treating him like he's her one and older.
Speaker 1: The men aren't getting treated with a great deal of
Speaker 1: respect in this episode, aren't they. Jackson gets whacked. I get,
Speaker 1: you know, the wool pulled over my eyes about my
Speaker 1: potential fatherhood.
Speaker 3: So okay. So then we go back to the Gilmours
Speaker 3: and now we've switched out the ballerina for Michale, which
Speaker 3: we all kind of talked about just didn't work whatever,
Speaker 3: and she's got the weird bag with her that she's
Speaker 3: clutching with the magazine in it. Sough.
Speaker 1: I feel like, just I saw a great setup for
Speaker 1: this article thing with absolutely no payoff. Yeah, yeah, no
Speaker 1: payoff whatsoever. Through the door, Emily kind of like calmed
Speaker 1: down and whatever. I mean, the things that can you
Speaker 1: imagine your child saying these things about you in print?
Speaker 1: It's one thing to say it behind your back or
Speaker 1: even to you in private, a person to person, but
Speaker 1: to do it in print and that everybody's going to read, well, it's.
Speaker 3: Like the cardinal rule, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Do you think that after everything, after everything, like Emily did,
Speaker 5: Like she's kind of just like excusing it. She's like,
Speaker 5: I already hurt my daughter enough, like I kind of
Speaker 5: deserved it.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's probably how they're justifying it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I.
Speaker 1: Mean, I mean, as a as as a fan of
Speaker 1: the show, I wanted to see we wanted to see fireworks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think it was one of these situations
Speaker 1: where less was less, hmm, I think more.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 3: I have sort of a similar flag on Mitcham and Rory.
Speaker 3: So Mitcham, you know, says, oh, I haven't really had
Speaker 3: time to talk to you about how you're doing, and
Speaker 3: then he sort of says, you don't got it. And
Speaker 3: what I didn't love was her response. I didn't love
Speaker 3: her saying I've done everything that was asked of me,
Speaker 3: because that right in there is the problem.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: She should have said like, Okay, thank you so much,
Speaker 3: like for your opinion, I respectfully disagree and I'm about
Speaker 3: to go crush journalism, you know, or she could have
Speaker 3: had a conversation with him, but I just wasn't crazy
Speaker 3: about I've done everything that's asked to me. Right, you
Speaker 3: were a great assistant, Rory, and yeah, this is your
Speaker 3: first job. That's all you need to be right now.
Speaker 3: But it's just like, I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 3: what you guys thought of that whole thing.
Speaker 1: I just think he's the type of boss that, you know,
Speaker 1: knows how to motivate people, and he gets rid of
Speaker 1: the whimps because he knows they're not going to be
Speaker 1: an asset to the company. And if she's got the
Speaker 1: right stuff, she'll rise up and prove him wrong. And
Speaker 1: that's what it takes. And you know, look that business world,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's rough and tumble, man, that's not you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you grow up in the suburbs, protected you
Speaker 1: don't realize what the real world is like. Right, They're
Speaker 1: getting into the belly of the base and it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, you get your ass kicked.
Speaker 6: It's up to Rory now to prove him wrong.
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, yeah, right, And I mean I could
Speaker 3: make that I don't. I won't give a spoiler, I promise,
Speaker 3: but we will come back to this moment as we
Speaker 3: talk about as we get into the finale and talk
Speaker 3: about season six, because I think way too much happens
Speaker 3: as a result of this moment that I don't It's
Speaker 3: like sliding doors, Like I just think this moment could
Speaker 3: have gone a whole different way for Rory's season six trajectory.
Speaker 3: And it's like, yeah, I don't know. I have a
Speaker 3: bone to pick with this moment being what drives her
Speaker 3: to do what comes next. So I say that now
Speaker 3: I'm not giving a spoiler, but I do want to
Speaker 3: continue the conversation as we talk about season six because
Speaker 3: to me, the Rory I know would have been like, Okay, thanks,
Speaker 3: screw you, mitcham bye and go be the editor of
Speaker 3: the paper. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: No, I mean, if she's going to end up in
Speaker 1: a high position at the Yale Daily News, she's going
Speaker 1: to do well in the field.
Speaker 3: She's at Yale, right, Like she goes to Yale. She's
Speaker 3: not at like right she said Yale. She did so
Speaker 3: well at Children, She's probably the top one percent of
Speaker 3: the entire student body that exists, and now she's at Yale.
Speaker 3: You don't just like suddenly take what this fool says,
Speaker 3: and you suddenly like I won't say it. I won't
Speaker 3: say it because it's a spoiler. But what happens just
Speaker 3: doesn't track.
Speaker 6: I mean, let's not forget. Like at Yale, Doyle was like, yeah,
Speaker 6: your ideas suck. Remember when she first came over, he
Speaker 6: was like, all these ideas are boring? Remember that anybody?
Speaker 3: Yes, But she didn't go cry about it.
Speaker 6: She correct Yeah, she got better.
Speaker 3: Ideas and got better and that's the whole point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I think I think Mitcham shattered her entire world,
Speaker 1: this future that she constructed maybe inside her head, with
Speaker 1: Logan and the family and the great job and all
Speaker 1: of this.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, okay, so this is your doing.
Speaker 1: My son, and you want this cushy life. You're not
Speaker 1: cut out to be a journalist because you're going to
Speaker 1: be on the road all the time in some horrible places,
Speaker 1: digging for dirt with dangerous people if you really want
Speaker 1: to be an impactful journalist. Right, So that's not the
Speaker 1: life you want, and that's not the life I want
Speaker 1: from my son. So maybe Tara, you have a very
Speaker 1: salient point there. I also think you made it earlier
Speaker 1: about Mitcham not wanting Rory.
Speaker 3: Right, No, I think she was right. I think there
Speaker 3: is a truth there. My thing is like, also, she's
Speaker 3: in college, right, she's a sophomore in college. When I
Speaker 3: was a sophomore in college, I had my first job
Speaker 3: at a TV station, and I literally had to be
Speaker 3: taught how to address an envelope properly. Like, yes, these
Speaker 3: were the days before computers, which I get it, I'm
Speaker 3: one hundred, but we had to write on an envelope
Speaker 3: and I would like put it a little bit too
Speaker 3: far to the right or the left right. So the
Speaker 3: person that I worked for was like, hey, this is
Speaker 3: where you have to address an envelope. And that's like
Speaker 3: the kind of crap Rory's doing. She's just sort of
Speaker 3: the like admin, right, And that's what your first job is.
Speaker 3: Everybody has to do that. You have to learn to
Speaker 3: address endlup. I had to learn how to like deliver
Speaker 3: memos around the TV station. Like we didn't have email then,
Speaker 3: so like if somebody wanted to, like if programming wanted
Speaker 3: to send a memo to you know, the newsroom, somebody
Speaker 3: had to write it, put it in this weird envelope,
Speaker 3: and then my job was to carry it from the
Speaker 3: one floor down to the newsroom, Like that looks exactly
Speaker 3: like what Rory's doing. So my thing's like, you can't
Speaker 3: really know whether you're going to be a journalist or
Speaker 3: not because she's just an admin. So he's basically saying,
Speaker 3: you don't got it. Oh okay, I don't got it
Speaker 3: to be an admin. Okay, Like it's just so dumb.
Speaker 3: It's just like, to me, Rory should have just been
Speaker 3: way more less weepy and like stealing yachts and way
Speaker 3: more baller about it. And I think that's like one
Speaker 3: of my beefs.
Speaker 1: But she's not. She wasn't. She's not like that, you know,
Speaker 1: she's uh, he might be right, he might be right.
Speaker 3: Well that's the whole thing, Tara, can you not.
Speaker 5: That's why I'm being quiet, because I'm just going to
Speaker 5: keep my mouth just.
Speaker 3: We want so badly to even I want to talk
Speaker 3: about the movies right now, because there's so many things
Speaker 3: i'll I'll say for you guys and for anyone listening
Speaker 3: that has seen this a million times like us. This
Speaker 3: is a very pivotal moment in sort of what I
Speaker 3: think is Rory's trajectory. And I'm like, is this the
Speaker 3: thing where the moment where everything went awry, I think,
Speaker 3: but also but also then I don't think so, because
Speaker 3: like the movies, I just have such problems with the movies.
Speaker 3: But we'll worry about that later.
Speaker 1: So, okay, like you either are a person. You either
Speaker 1: are a go getter who makes it happen for yourself,
Speaker 1: or you're a person that sits back and follows the rules. Okay,
Speaker 1: And people to sit back and follow the rules can
Speaker 1: ultimately do very well in a bureaucracy, and they can
Speaker 1: ultimately do very well over time just by keeping their
Speaker 1: mouths shut if there are a certain kind of business.
Speaker 1: But the go getters, they get ahead. Okay, he's just
Speaker 1: telling her she's not a go getter, because people that
Speaker 1: become really successful have very interesting stories with that when
Speaker 1: they were just starting out. Well, I was just answering
Speaker 1: phones for the big agent over at CIA, But when
Speaker 1: he went on vacation, I jumped on his desk and
Speaker 1: started making deals. I risked everything. But then when he
Speaker 1: came back he was about to fire me, but he
Speaker 1: got a phone call from the studio and said, can
Speaker 1: you put her on? We love her. That's what makes
Speaker 1: a career. You just do it. Don't ask for permission,
Speaker 1: you do it.
Speaker 3: I think there is some truth then to what Mitcham's saying, Oh,
Speaker 3: you don't got it, because when she takes that and
Speaker 3: gets so butt hurt by it, you're right, you don't
Speaker 3: got it, Because what you if you got it? When
Speaker 3: someone tells you you don't got it, you come on stronger.
Speaker 3: You don't say, oh, I did everything you asked me
Speaker 3: to do you go like, okay, well you'll see Mitcham,
Speaker 3: and then you go over like I said, to the
Speaker 3: stars Hollow, you know, or the the Boston Gazette. I
Speaker 3: don't know. I'm making up paper names the Boston Tribune,
Speaker 3: and you crush it there like you just so right.
Speaker 3: Mitcham is sort of right. Even do a.
Speaker 1: Profile on the Huntsburger family and and I have it
Speaker 1: from a very very good inside source that they were
Speaker 1: treated horribly at a dinner.
Speaker 3: Emily gets the article right, and Lorelai runs into the
Speaker 3: office and locks the door, and Laura says, are you
Speaker 3: in there now? What if I missed that? The Mike,
Speaker 3: the ballerina guy is all mad about.
Speaker 1: It was a comment?
Speaker 6: Yeah, So he thought Emily was like somehow associated with stalling.
Speaker 1: Just okay, that that was just.
Speaker 3: Because even I'm watching it and then now I'm like
Speaker 3: looking at my notes, going like I didn't even get
Speaker 3: any of that.
Speaker 6: It was a really random I'm also like, how did
Speaker 6: Emily not like make her pay for that?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 6: She just kind of let her go. In my opinion,
Speaker 6: is she what she gets?
Speaker 1: She's like playing monopoly and you got to get out
Speaker 1: of jail free card. Where did she get to get
Speaker 1: out of jail free card?
Speaker 4: Well, that's what I was saying, yell earlier, like it
Speaker 4: because it went away.
Speaker 7: It was it just Emily.
Speaker 5: Thinking like I've already done so much, said so much
Speaker 5: crap about Larel and her relationship that I'm just gonna
Speaker 5: let this slide.
Speaker 1: But not in print.
Speaker 6: No, that's so not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she just her own daughter destroyed her mother's reputation
Speaker 1: in publication for all her friends to read in print.
Speaker 1: And it's not something you can apologize for. That's like
Speaker 1: a relationship and done right.
Speaker 3: She lose her mind, she was her mind.
Speaker 1: It felt like it would be her only move to
Speaker 1: save face. I've disowned my daughter.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 5: There you go, Well, Richard, because Richard wasn't in this episode.
Speaker 5: So it just kind of felt like they needed to
Speaker 5: give Emily something. It was it was kind of weird
Speaker 5: on her part.
Speaker 6: I needed Emily to say, you get yourself out of
Speaker 6: this room and you get out of my house, like
Speaker 6: I needed that, and I was just like wait, pause,
Speaker 6: like I literally like re press rewind because I'm like
Speaker 6: I missed something, and I'm like, oh my gosh, you
Speaker 6: literally just let her go.
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be the mother, no pun intended
Speaker 1: of all fights between mother and daughter. Right, if anything
Speaker 1: was set up to be like you know, Ali Frasier one,
Speaker 1: this was it, right.
Speaker 5: Especially because it was from a few episodes ago, so
Speaker 5: it was like a build up. It wasn't like I
Speaker 5: just found.
Speaker 1: Out cocking around with some Russian ballet dancer and him
Speaker 1: getting offended.
Speaker 7: I mean to do it too.
Speaker 3: Much for giveness, for right, it's.
Speaker 1: Like get to the stick to the point you know.
Speaker 3: What happened to you and me?
Speaker 1: We're done right. So we wanted blood. We didn't get anything.
Speaker 1: We got bad jokes. We wanted blood. Well it's coming
Speaker 1: so okay now because we dislike Laurel I are. We
Speaker 1: just wanted to see the drama. It was like, give
Speaker 1: us some drama for God's sake, because you know both
Speaker 1: of them can deliver right.
Speaker 3: Totally right, we could have had some epic steup epic.
Speaker 3: So okay, well that still goes on because that does
Speaker 3: sort of play a part in the very end. But uh,
Speaker 3: we get to the marina I guess you'd call it
Speaker 3: where the yacht is, and I'm a little frankly tired
Speaker 3: of like Rory being mad thinking Logan's flirting. It's like
Speaker 3: that was sort of like because he's like, oh, you
Speaker 3: mean my sister's friend and her husband that just had
Speaker 3: a baby. Like it's like, okay, Rory, knock it off,
Speaker 3: like this guy's committed to you, like he's just talking
Speaker 3: to somebody at engagement party. So that was sort of
Speaker 3: me being irritated. But I don't know if I'm just
Speaker 3: bringing my irritation with Rory right now into it. Then
Speaker 3: they sort of have the conversation.
Speaker 1: Because she didn't get the blood.
Speaker 3: Well and she doesn't even tell him what happened, which
Speaker 3: also is so bothersome to me because it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: this three's company episode, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: I get so irritated by that.
Speaker 5: Like it's also tell him his dad, Like, if my
Speaker 5: boyfriend like his dad, I would be the first phone call.
Speaker 3: Like, so it's not like it's his dad he loves
Speaker 3: and worships and things, is the greatest father in the planet.
Speaker 3: It's like he hates this guy and knows this guy's
Speaker 3: a D word, and then she doesn't even tell him.
Speaker 3: It's just so annoying.
Speaker 6: He was kind of happy she didn't tell him.
Speaker 1: I think she suspected Logan sabotage.
Speaker 5: No, no, I don't think that.
Speaker 3: There's too many things, a little preposterous, too many things
Speaker 3: in this episode of people not telling people like Luke,
Speaker 3: why are you not why are you buying a million
Speaker 3: dollar house? And not telling Laura Like LAURAAI, why do
Speaker 3: you think you're pregnant? And then you're not telling Luke
Speaker 3: Rory Mitcham just rips you and you're all weepy about it.
Speaker 3: Tell Logan, like, I just think I just thought that
Speaker 3: she tells.
Speaker 1: Her husband to go get his balls cut off. I mean,
Speaker 1: what's going on?
Speaker 6: I think with Rory and Logan, she just spent the
Speaker 6: whole previous epistrade gushing over him, trying to get, you know,
Speaker 6: all the info on Mitcham that she's probably embarrassed. Like
Speaker 6: I was, like, I'm happy she didn't say anything warned her.
Speaker 3: I know y'all are gonna hate this, but like the
Speaker 3: person who I'm not irritated by in this episode is Logan.
Speaker 3: He didn't do anything wrong. He's just like, yeah, Ace,
Speaker 3: that's my sister's friend and her husband who just had
Speaker 3: a baby. Yeah, it's like just being freaking cool, and
Speaker 3: she's just.
Speaker 5: Didn't he also maybe maybe I'm mixing things up. Didn't
Speaker 5: he also say like what did my dad say?
Speaker 7: Or what did my dad do?
Speaker 3: Or yeah something? I think so.
Speaker 5: And I'm actually on your side Amy for this because
Speaker 5: like he actually was like he knows something's up. He's
Speaker 5: gonna wait for her to say something. He's not gonna
Speaker 5: force it out of her, but like he knows, like
Speaker 5: he's just doing what he's doing, you know.
Speaker 3: Right, He's just being Logan. And then really they're gonna
Speaker 3: steal a boat? Come on, like actually, come on, Like
Speaker 3: there's plenty of things that they actually would go do.
Speaker 3: They'd bail the party, they'd go to the four Seasons,
Speaker 3: order everything on the rooms, have a.
Speaker 1: Wild night, And I think that's I think that's a
Speaker 1: little more common clubs than.
Speaker 3: Gilmore is not stealing a boat. That's like a freaking.
Speaker 1: Fellow to do it him to do it.
Speaker 5: No, but like there's it's been so many times of
Speaker 5: logan and boats, like we've heard this one too many times,
Speaker 5: so like what's that only made her be like, well,
Speaker 5: I want to steal a boat too?
Speaker 6: Is it?
Speaker 5: Like is it a proved to Mitcham? Like she's on
Speaker 5: logans Like I don't Logan's level.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just like their neighbors, the Huntsburger's neighbors have
Speaker 1: a couple of yachts there and just take borrow one
Speaker 1: of them. It's not stealing, just take it out, you know.
Speaker 1: Can you just get a boat?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so go rent a boat, I don't know, or
Speaker 3: take their boat.
Speaker 1: Are you going to rent a boat?
Speaker 3: First of all, please, Rory Gilmore, like come on, stealing
Speaker 3: a boat that really is just bananas and like to
Speaker 3: do what to be a badass? Like literally when Mitcham's like,
Speaker 3: you don't got it? Stealing a boat doesn't make you
Speaker 3: got it. It just makes you have.
Speaker 1: A criminals who are they quoting Hemingway When you want
Speaker 1: to punch somebody, go to see is it not Melville?
Speaker 3: Is not Melville, hence the title.
Speaker 1: Sorry, the whales and shotguns and I don't know what.
Speaker 6: We also can't forget. She ditched Friday night dinner too
Speaker 6: because she was supposed to go, So she dinner, she
Speaker 6: went to the engagement party and tried to steal a boat.
Speaker 7: Some thing she never even told.
Speaker 5: She didn't tell Emily or Lorelai or anyone she wasn't
Speaker 5: coming or like trying to get out of it.
Speaker 1: Stupid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, raumatic flipfhanger. I freaking love the end.
Speaker 7: I really wanted to go to the next episode. It
Speaker 7: was so high, you know what.
Speaker 1: The only I think the only solve for this is
Speaker 1: to have a ski race. Let's do that, Fry's the
Speaker 1: only way we're gonna get over it.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I mean, also, I'm reading the I'm reading the script
Speaker 6: and Logan didn't say anything about his dad, but he
Speaker 6: did in the episode earlier.
Speaker 3: Is my dad treating you well? But okay, that's where
Speaker 3: Thoughty was.
Speaker 6: But not right before she went to go steal the yacht, right,
Speaker 6: got it.
Speaker 3: That's a fair mistake.
Speaker 7: It was somewhere I.
Speaker 1: Couldn't get past the the best ectomy scene I I
Speaker 1: put an extra I'll tell you what. I went upstairs
Speaker 1: and put on an extra pair of pants and then
Speaker 1: continue to watch the episode, and I covered myself up
Speaker 1: the rest of the time. Tell you that much, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I guess we're ready to rate the episode.
Speaker 3: What does everybody give it?
Speaker 8: Tara?
Speaker 1: You want to you want to start us off here,
Speaker 1: be brave and jump out there and set the standard.
Speaker 4: I will give it seven point eight yachts.
Speaker 3: A very low score, though very low score.
Speaker 1: That is low for part of these You have integrity?
Speaker 6: Why did I like the episode? Am I the only
Speaker 6: one like? I actually liked it?
Speaker 1: I did? Actually, I actually did too. I thought it
Speaker 1: was really.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was super entertaining. I'm going to say nine
Speaker 6: out of ten pieces of toast at a dollar ten.
Speaker 1: At the loop price.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to give it eight of Kirk's two
Speaker 3: hundred and forty seven thousand dollars bank accounts.
Speaker 1: Huh okay, yeah, uh, I'm going to give it.
Speaker 8: Uh God.
Speaker 1: I I really enjoyed the episode, though, however many inconsistencies
Speaker 1: there were and fears of being snipped. I still enjoyed
Speaker 1: the pack out of it. Oh and isn't that a
Speaker 1: testament to the wonderful show that is Gilmore Gosh, I
Speaker 1: really want to stay in the nines, but I just can't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I understand, Danielle. I'm sorry. I want to be hanging
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 6: I think this is the first time I've ever ranked
Speaker 6: an episode higher than anybody else.
Speaker 1: But listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna be right there with
Speaker 1: you with an eight point nine eight point eight nine
Speaker 1: five eight point eight nine five. Uh functional my kids?
Speaker 3: Oh, I thought I knew you were gonna it was
Speaker 3: gonna have to do with asector.
Speaker 1: No, I was going to say eight point eight nine
Speaker 1: five testicles. Since it's an X rated episode, is you
Speaker 1: can say that it's an X rated episode? Uh No,
Speaker 1: I'll give it eight point eight nine five surgical snipping scissors.
Speaker 5: Whoa specific I will say, I feel like, as we
Speaker 5: broke down the episode, things bothered me more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I was like kind of okay with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can't we just enjoy it without reckoning it for
Speaker 1: everybody with all this analysis, But I.
Speaker 6: Will say, like, yeah, it annoyed this episode thoroughly annoyed me,
Speaker 6: but it thoroughly entertained like it wasn't boring.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't boring. It was it moved along, it
Speaker 1: was funny. I think it was a really strong episode
Speaker 1: for for Lauren. I thought she was just carrying it
Speaker 1: along with some really funny stuff, you know, funny delivery.
Speaker 1: This really featured her comedy skills, So I think for
Speaker 1: me that's what kept it, you know, above above water
Speaker 1: for the most part, even in the in the in
Speaker 1: the sort of challenging parts for us logically speaking. So anyway,
Speaker 1: what else do we have favorite lines? Let's do favorite
Speaker 1: lines time.
Speaker 3: Sorry, go ahead, jump on it. I just got excited
Speaker 3: because I do have one when they when it's about
Speaker 3: fruit and she says, don't have a hankering for it.
Speaker 1: M hmmm hmm.
Speaker 6: I actually have a favorite too. It's from Emily and
Speaker 6: she says, I did not get into quote bitch fight
Speaker 6: with him. He's an ex president. It was that usable rosalind.
Speaker 8: Tera.
Speaker 5: I mean, I always have to go with a Kirk line.
Speaker 5: I just think the whole back and forth about the
Speaker 5: toast was truly my favorite part of the episode. I
Speaker 5: don't have a specific favorite line.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I'm gonna I'm going to pass on favorite
Speaker 1: lines there were just too many of them. I'll post
Speaker 1: on my Instagram what my favorite line is.
Speaker 7: Oh that's wait, oh wait, I do have you?
Speaker 5: I have one when he says I take my toast
Speaker 5: dry m hm, because he asked if there's a discount
Speaker 5: on butter and jamm hmmm mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a real Nie slapper. All right, So
Speaker 1: what do we got?
Speaker 3: We got next episode finale? What's the Scott? It's like
Speaker 3: it's so upsetting.
Speaker 1: It's it's just flying by. All right, So what do
Speaker 1: we what do we have for the the next episode?
Speaker 3: What is Yeah? What's it called? Oh? Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: Called next episode, Episode twenty two, the finale, the wrap
Speaker 1: up of season five. House. It is not a home.
Speaker 6: I don't like it. I don't like it.
Speaker 1: It doesn't it does. It's it's foreboding, isn't it. It's
Speaker 1: it really is. The house is not And I think
Speaker 1: that sounds like a line from Laurel. I. Yeah, is
Speaker 1: that what Laurel I says to Luke. Listen, I didn't
Speaker 1: tell you to do this A house is It's just
Speaker 1: a house, Luke, It's not.
Speaker 7: Actually, don't think it's not going to be what you think?
Speaker 1: Okay, never is anyway. Thank you ladies, Thank you Tarah,
Speaker 1: thank you Danielle, thank you Amy. Always a pleasure, always
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