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Speaker 1: Good mornings, sweet and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by Fan Duel. It's Tuesday, December second, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jay Skeets here in the Classic Factory and alongside

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Speaker 1: me as always task.

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Speaker 2: Mellie Hidcast listeners, this is for you.

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Speaker 3: Next to him, it's.

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Speaker 1: My top shot boy Trey Kirby Ayo and over Yonder

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Speaker 1: making the magic happen. Super producer jd Ella. There, he

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Speaker 1: is here, we are Hello everybody on YouTube. Hit the

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Speaker 1: like button, subscribe podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews.

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Speaker 1: On today's show, we're going to tackle a whole lot

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Speaker 1: of trade rumors regarding your Chicago Bulls and the LA Clippers,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk about a few of last night's best

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Speaker 1: games and performances. Before we get to all of that,

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Speaker 1: we had some hilarious reactions to Tassa's pick Them Payoff

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Speaker 1: go tee that we unveiled yesterday. Could I just share

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Speaker 1: a few from the comments section on YouTube?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I saw some. Yeah, I can't wait to hear

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Speaker 2: how good these ones?

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Speaker 1: First one, I didn't write any names down, so apologies,

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Speaker 1: but thank you for these. Crying at the goateea reveal

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Speaker 1: nothing fucking changed. They teased this payoff for a whole

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Speaker 1: week forgot to reveal it, then made the biggest deal

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Speaker 1: out of their significant others' reactions to it. Then Task

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Speaker 1: looks exactly the same. Somebody wrote, this is simultaneously the

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Speaker 1: greatest and worst pick them payoff of all time. Task

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Speaker 1: is too handsome, not fair, supposed to look goofy. And

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Speaker 1: then finally, I never thought we'd see a pick and

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Speaker 1: payoff easier than task eating that Arby's sandwich. But here

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Speaker 1: we are, And holy crap, because you had to eat

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Speaker 1: Arby's at ten am in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I love that. I worked out before that. It

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Speaker 2: was so hungry. I put some apple sauce on an

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Speaker 2: Arby's roast beef sandwich and I was happy eating that.

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Speaker 2: But listen, that's what a show is. A show sometimes

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Speaker 2: steps up to the plate with these pick and payoffs hits,

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Speaker 2: a double hits, a triple hits, a ding dong, and

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Speaker 2: sometimes they'll freaking swing and this and that's what.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we cannot knock them all out of the park.

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Speaker 2: You're right, I could have done this better. I could

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Speaker 2: have died. As we talked about.

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Speaker 3: It just looks what does your significant other, think of your.

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Speaker 2: Go to Yeah, she's She basically said, it doesn't look

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Speaker 2: all that different. I said, so should I keep it?

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Speaker 2: And she said, nah, I like a beard better, right right,

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Speaker 2: But I think that.

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Speaker 3: We'll try and do better.

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Speaker 1: If you have a really good suggestion for the loser

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Speaker 1: of December's pick them battle, let us know. Some people

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Speaker 1: were also sharing some of those ideas.

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Speaker 3: So, uh, anything good?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't. Honestly, I'd say no, nothing

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Speaker 1: that jumped out to me fair enough. But maybe the

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Speaker 1: swerve is we do nice things. Now.

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Speaker 3: You gotta wear a shirt you don't like that much.

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Speaker 3: You gotta wear a hat, you know, the other side

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Speaker 3: of the table.

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Speaker 2: I did try. I did try and suit my shirt

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Speaker 2: to a go tea. Like I thought that this would

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Speaker 2: be a shirt that a person with a go tea

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Speaker 2: would wear.

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Speaker 1: I know that it's like a pol or whatever. I know.

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Speaker 2: Some people suggested maybe Trey should have a go tea,

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Speaker 2: Maybe sket should have a go tea if you lose,

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Speaker 2: just because it would be more of a punishment, because

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Speaker 2: it's a difference than your actual day to day beards.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you literally want to just run it back.

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Speaker 2: That's the suggestion. I think that was the best suggestion

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Speaker 2: I saw. Nobody wants it.

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Speaker 1: We avoided it, all right, So let's get into some

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Speaker 1: trade talk here or rumors, and we'll sprinkle in some

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Speaker 1: game talk as we do it, because I want to

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Speaker 1: start with the Chicago Bulls because they apparently have held

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Speaker 1: internal discussions about a choir ring Mavericks big man Anthony Davis.

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Speaker 1: Sources told ESPN this on Monday. However, team sources said

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Speaker 1: the Bulls will not sacrifice any of their young core

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Speaker 1: to execute such a deal until the team is closer

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Speaker 1: to contention. The Bulls believe ad though could help with

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Speaker 1: their rim protection and defensive issues. So that was the report.

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Speaker 1: I agree, And yeah, if you watch last night's game,

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Speaker 1: they absolutely could use Anthony Davis. Vujvic defense is literally

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Speaker 1: he just puts his hands up and guys just go

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Speaker 3: It happened so many times. I know it's happened old

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Speaker 3: season here.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you.

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Speaker 3: Forgot the last part of his defense shrugging. Oh yeah, God, Jesus,

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Speaker 3: do what else are you do?

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Speaker 1: So again, let's let's start with the Bulls fan here,

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Speaker 1: and this is something I know it's come up before,

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Speaker 1: but now we have this report from ESPN. What's your

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Speaker 1: opinion on this. Should they be active in trying to

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Speaker 1: get a d if it doesn't cost them one of

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Speaker 1: their young core pieces.

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Speaker 3: No, they shouldn't. I don't think the Bulls should do

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Speaker 3: this unless the price is perfectly right. The Bulls are

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Speaker 3: not in a position to trade any of their own

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Speaker 3: first round picks. They have a second first round pick

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Speaker 3: coming from Portland for this year's draft, but it's lottery protected.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of a toss up right now. I think

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Speaker 3: if the Blazers will be in the lottery, but the

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Speaker 3: Bulls aren't close to winning. Adding Anthony Davis is not

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Speaker 3: equivalent to adding Pascal Siakam. As it's mentioned in the article,

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Speaker 3: they're basically trying to rip off the Pacers, even though

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Speaker 3: I don't think Gidea is at Halliburton's level as a

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Speaker 3: floor razor and more concerns. I think with Davis being

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Speaker 3: healthy and even fitting the style that the Bulls play,

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Speaker 3: the Bulls want to play fast like Indiana did, but

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Speaker 3: Anthony Davis doesn't play fast. I think he's a slow

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Speaker 3: player at this point in his career. But we heard

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Speaker 3: from Tim Bontemps a couple of weeks ago on their

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Speaker 3: podcast that nobody's lining up to trade for Anthony Davis.

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Speaker 3: So if it's low ball season, then go for it.

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Speaker 3: They could do Vouch, they could do Kobe White, they

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Speaker 3: could do Kevin Herder. To make the contracts work, include

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Speaker 3: that Portland lottery protected pick. Could it be a first

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Speaker 3: who knows. That's not a great deal for the Mavericks,

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Speaker 3: which is why I don't think a deal would get done.

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Speaker 3: But there's basically no way the Mavericks should say yes

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Speaker 3: to a deal from the Bulls unless it includes a

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Speaker 3: Chicago first round pick, because there's a good chance that

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Speaker 3: I think could be nice, or if it includes any

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Speaker 3: of their young guys, which I don't even think the

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Speaker 3: Bulls are silly enough to trade Boozellis. But you know,

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Speaker 3: the Mavericks would want Kobe White or Io Desume guards

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Speaker 3: who could help their team alongside Cooper Flag and those

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Speaker 3: guys are both on expiring contracts. The Bulls are going

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Speaker 3: to have to make a decision on if they want

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Speaker 3: to pay him. I know they think Kobe's still part

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Speaker 3: of the core. I like the way he's developed as

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Speaker 3: that they've invested in, but he's not going to be

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Speaker 3: a huge needle mover. So if he has to go

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Speaker 3: to get the deal done, then it's fine. But the

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Speaker 3: bottom line for me is that the price has to

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Speaker 3: be so low to get Anthony Davis just because the

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Speaker 3: Bulls are so far away, like this would be a

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Speaker 3: move that could get them into the top six in

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Speaker 3: the Eastern Conference, and I don't think that's enough of

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Speaker 3: a motivation to trade away big pieces of the future

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Speaker 3: when you don't even know what the future really looks

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Speaker 3: like at this point.

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Speaker 2: I think the Bulls should do it because Anthony Davis

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Speaker 2: and what it will cost them won't handcuff them for

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Speaker 2: the near future because they don't have a lot of

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Speaker 2: money locked up next season. And you look at the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six free agents, they ain't all that spectacular.

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Speaker 2: Even though the Bulls have room to have two maxes.

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Speaker 2: According to my math this coming offseason, who are they signing?

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Speaker 2: So you know, I went through all the names and

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Speaker 2: really it ain't all that spectacular. There's you know, Trey,

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Speaker 2: zach Lavine and James Hardner are all on player options

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Speaker 2: for next year, so you know there's an outside chance

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Speaker 2: you get one of those guys. But I think it's

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Speaker 2: more in the realm of in Anthony Simon's or somebody

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Speaker 2: like that. So I don't see registering a little bit

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Speaker 2: of costs here for Anthony Davis as much of a

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Speaker 2: problem because if it's the deal which works, you know,

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Speaker 2: Vouchin Herder and one of either Disumer or Kobe White,

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Speaker 2: that literally works without a draft pick, you know, if

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Speaker 2: you can sneak that in because the cost is low

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Speaker 2: for Anthony Davis, maybe that you can get it done.

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Speaker 2: I mean, one pick probably has to go, and it

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Speaker 2: could be that Blazer's pick, which is a lottery protected.

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Speaker 2: I think you do it because again they don't have

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Speaker 2: basically no money tied up next year. It's Giddy at

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Speaker 2: twenty five and Pat Williams as your second highest Baarit

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Speaker 2: at eighteen, and then a KORL so they have lots

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Speaker 2: of room and Anthony Davis for this year and it's

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Speaker 2: two guaranteed years after this one. I think that's fine.

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Speaker 2: I think you give it a shot for that cost.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's really a lot of cost, because

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Speaker 2: as that report said, it was Bonteps reporting saying that

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Speaker 2: no one's lining up, So how much more are they

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Speaker 2: getting for Anthony Davis?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think it's interesting, especially from the Bulls fan,

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Speaker 1: that you were including Kobe White here into a potential deal.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, it's gonna be vooch and it's going

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Speaker 1: to number and it could be Kobe White whether or

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Speaker 1: not he's a part of the young core or he's not. Right,

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Speaker 1: is it Giddy Boozells and Kobe White or is Kobe

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Speaker 1: and he would be moved? And then yeah, is it

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Speaker 1: Kevin Herder and his expiring deal. If you're the Bulls,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you would love to get off of Patrick Williams' contract.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the Mavericks would want that. And then

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Speaker 1: whatever sort of draft capital. Now, the good thing is

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Speaker 1: the Bulls do have a lot of picks, like they

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Speaker 1: could trade up to five first five second picks. A're

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Speaker 1: not doing all that. I'm saying. They have that sort

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Speaker 1: of war chest and they will have a bunch of

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Speaker 1: cap room like you're saying too. So they're a good spot.

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Speaker 1: It's just whether like a thirty two year old Anthony Davis,

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Speaker 1: given his contract, given his injury history. Yeah, how much

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Speaker 1: better does he make you here in the Eastern Conference?

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Speaker 1: You add him to the team, like they're gonna suddenly

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Speaker 1: at least rid the amount of points in the paint

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Speaker 1: they're giving up if he plays in that place, right,

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Speaker 1: they gave up sixty two points in the paint last

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Speaker 1: night to the Magic. They've given up a ton after

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Speaker 1: the very hot start. It's something like, what was it,

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Speaker 1: It's like fifty five or fifty six points in the paint,

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Speaker 1: like since the hot start. It's a hell of a lot.

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Speaker 1: So had he helps there for sure? And if I'm

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Speaker 1: with you, guys, I'm saying, if the cost is very,

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Speaker 1: very low, it's sort of like, hey, bring him back.

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Speaker 3: You keep saying he's a Chicago boy. Why not. They

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Speaker 3: got a bunch of those on the team too. He's

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Speaker 3: a trader, he's a Packers fan. Oh yeah, still unbelievable

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Speaker 3: to me that this guy is a Packers fan. He

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Speaker 3: was wearing a Micah Parsons jersey to go to a

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Speaker 3: Dallas Mavericks scheme. He's roughling all kinds of feathers. The

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Speaker 3: That's the thing like doing this Anthony Davis move is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and from Dallas's side, they want picks. They've given

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Speaker 1: But the Magic, you know, stormed back into this game

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Speaker 2: Still, yeah, the Magic effort with Goga block Tazzi. I

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Speaker 2: But watching Desmond Bean at the end of this game,

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Speaker 2: And he was doing it fantastically well. Thirty seven points

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter and they, i believe, can still have

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Speaker 2: So they looked spectacular. They looked really, really fun.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of miles to feed because you're right,

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Speaker 3: Bain has been playing better basically since Paolo went down.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a great sign that. I mean, I watched

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that part's strange. It's a good point, unless maybe

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Speaker 2: I didn't play there. He didn't. He didn't know of

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Speaker 1: Vince was by the Magic bench, yes, and Rivers was

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Speaker 2: But he even realize it after the game.

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Speaker 3: And bring a little humor. But it's a weird setup.

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Speaker 3: It's a weird setup.

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Speaker 1: Weird man. But they have a monitor on their lap,

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Speaker 3: If we're sitting courtside, it should have to be the

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Speaker 3: All you get is a mic interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, if I was one of those guys

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Speaker 2: I don't know how long they can do it for.

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Speaker 1: guess besides that that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: I thought that's like a clipboard. You know, it's twenty

433
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Speaker 3: twenty five. Yeah, you have better stuff. Austin Rivers. He

434
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,359
Speaker 3: loves to say, no wasted movement, No wasted movement. That's

435
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,879
Speaker 3: not even bag work. That's just getting down here. No

436
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 3: wasted love.

437
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Speaker 1: It guys, Oh my god. Okay, so good win here

438
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 1: from the Magic as they again they're racking up the

439
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,159
Speaker 1: victories here without Paolo, they're climbing the Eastern Conference. Yeah,

440
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 1: and uh, Anthony Black my final note on him. Guy

441
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 1: does not want to take a left handed layup. No,

442
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 1: but holy crap, is he good at going on the

443
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 1: left side and finishing with his right. It's like, but

444
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 1: the defense should know that. Nothing, We're just gonna do

445
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 1: anything anyway. But yeah, he just rarely takes a left

446
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 1: handed layup. It's amazing.

447
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

448
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Speaker 2: The question is I hope Paolo is able to stay

449
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Speaker 2: at that three point line because you have guys like

450
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 2: Tommy Black, who ain't the best of three point shooters.

451
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 2: He needs to get downhill, and that's been Vane is

452
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 2: freaking good at getting downhill. So they got a space

453
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Speaker 2: the floor in Polo's three point shots. Got to get

454
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Speaker 2: better to keep spacing that thing.

455
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's uh, let's briefly touch on Anthony Davis, who

456
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Speaker 1: you know started this off with the rumor about him

457
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Speaker 1: going to the Bulls. He did have a monster games.

458
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Speaker 1: Was that his second game back if I remember correctly,

459
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Speaker 1: he played against that lag Yeah, okay, so second game

460
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Speaker 1: backs that one game in between, okay, thirty two points

461
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Speaker 1: for him as the Mavericks beat the Nuggets one thirty

462
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Speaker 1: one one. You know again, great game thirty two, thirteen

463
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Speaker 1: and four. And then Ryan Nemhard, good old Canadian boy,

464
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Speaker 1: Ryan Nemhard with twenty eight points ten as system four threes.

465
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Speaker 1: TK thoughts on the MAVs shocking the Nuggets here.

466
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Speaker 3: Near Tupens right now. Started the last three games for Dallas,

467
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Speaker 3: giving them a little bit more shooting I think than

468
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Speaker 3: Brandon Miller does. He's nine to fifteen, Williams. You did

469
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Speaker 3: the Brandon yesterday.

470
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Speaker 2: He called it. He called Brandon Miller, Brandon Ingram. Yeah,

471
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 2: now unbelievable. Let's go how the other brand that's all

472
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Speaker 2: of them?

473
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Speaker 3: Uh Williams, Brandon Ingram, the big man for the MAVs

474
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Speaker 3: is gone.

475
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Speaker 2: Now that Brandon what was his name?

476
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Speaker 3: Brandon?

477
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Speaker 2: Right, Brandon?

478
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 3: That was a guy anyway. Ryan Nemhard, brother of Aaron

479
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 3: Nempar shooting it well, Brandon Williams not necessarily. Brandon Clark

480
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 3: hasn't played, hasn't played. That's why it's tough to remember him.

481
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 3: Also had a Manuel Miller kicking around in my head.

482
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 3: Brother's right anyway, Brandon Boston Junior still plays. I haven't

483
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 3: seen him on a court. I know that guy is

484
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 3: a Brandon Ingram clone. He hasn't played yet this season.

485
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 3: I don't even know if he's still in the league. Okay, sorry,

486
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 3: continue shortcoming soon know your Brandon's sure. Ryan Nempard twenty

487
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Speaker 3: eight points, tenn asists big pull up jumper with two

488
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 3: minutes left. Next play down breaks down the defense, same way,

489
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 3: finds Max Christi, brother of Cam Christy in for everybody's

490
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 3: simply everybody has a brother or shares a name with somebody.

491
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 3: But you guys totally called it the Nuggets are playing

492
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Speaker 3: to the level of their competition right now. Maybe part

493
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Speaker 3: of that is having Aaron Gordon out. I do feel

494
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 3: like he's an emotional leader for their team. But Dallas

495
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 3: came in and is still thirtieth in offense, and they

496
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 3: had one hundred and two points after three quarters, and

497
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 3: it looked pretty easy for the Mavericks to score. They

498
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 3: were totally in rhythm. So then when it came to

499
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, they just couldn't miss. Thirty five assists

500
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Speaker 3: for Dallas as well. The ball was really moving eighteen

501
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 3: fast break points. They were just running a gun in

502
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: on the Nuggets, and I thought Davis played good big

503
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 3: Man Basketball League. There's a lot of times he's setting

504
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 3: a cross screen for Cooper flag Cooper comes around and

505
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 3: is able to get to the rim. That's another guy

506
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,239
Speaker 3: that lights to take a left handed layup. He had

507
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Speaker 3: quite a few last night. But Davis was just set

508
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 3: in screens, finishing plays. I think he may have had

509
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 3: four assists last night, but wasn't a big playmaker for

510
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 3: He was just doing his job out there, getting into

511
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 3: the rhythm of things. You know, people were concerned that

512
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 3: he was coming in out of shape this season. There

513
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 3: are some photos where he looks like a big boy.

514
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 3: For sure. He looked trimmed to me last night. Maybe

515
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 3: the time off gave him a chance to get his

516
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 3: body right and get ready to play for the MAVs.

517
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 3: So they had a tough start to the season, but

518
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 3: they're now seven and fifteen. Nobody's really running away in

519
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 3: the Western Conference. I don't think it's over for Dallas

520
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 3: this year.

521
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's truly interesting in the Western Conference because there

522
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 2: are two games out of the play in tournament and

523
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 2: they're getting their guys together and they're playing a point guard,

524
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: which was a huge chunk of the story for the

525
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 2: beginning of the season because Scooper Flag was just freaking

526
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 2: thrown in there. And then they tried Dan angel A Russell.

527
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 2: It didn't work out there, they tried brandon ingram Miller Williams,

528
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 2: and now they're giving it to Ryan Nemhart, who was

529
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Speaker 2: now their starting point guard. Who's got to start. They're

530
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: two and one since he started, and I think he's very,

531
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 2: very good, that good Canadian boy from Aura, Ontario twenty

532
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: eight and ten. Yeah, I think he's really important to

533
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: this team. Now on the other side, this Denver Nuggets

534
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 2: team with Jamal Murray leaving in the third quarter and

535
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 2: not coming back and then losing the fourth quarter twenty

536
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: nine to seventeen. That was the key to this whole

537
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 2: game is because they didn't have Jamal Murray on the

538
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: floor with Christian brand Out, Christian brown Out and Aaron

539
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 2: Gordon Oute. Huge worry for them if he's not there,

540
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 2: because this Denver Nuggets team has lost four straight at home.

541
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 2: That's yucky. But on yeah, well, hopefully he comes back

542
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 2: and hopefully ad keeps playing. Even though he had a

543
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 2: finger wedgie in this game, and I don't mean sticking

544
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 2: it in his own pants. I mean yeah, like it

545
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: literally between the rim and the board almost like it

546
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 2: was like the rim and the board. I guess it

547
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 2: wasn't right in between, but it was up there. But

548
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 2: he's just out there doing what he does. And obviously

549
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 2: gur Flag is getting better seeing him being pushed by

550
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 2: Jason Kid. Jason Kidd wanted him to go at Yokic,

551
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: who plays like Vouch on defense at times. You know

552
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: it's just a hands up, just go buy me kind

553
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 2: of thing, and Cooper Flagg was doing it really really well.

554
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 2: They just got great contributions. As you said the assists

555
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 2: were up. They look look like a different team. So

556
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 2: that's why the Western Conference is interesting. Do they want

557
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 2: to trade Anthony Davis or do they want to be

558
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 2: the team that Mark Cuban says they will be. We

559
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 2: ain't trade that guy. They literally are not far and

560
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: the teams that are at the bottom of the plan

561
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 2: are the Grizzlies and the Blazers. They should be better

562
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: than them. I took I took the MAVs as an

563
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 2: over preseason on their win total because I believed in them.

564
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: Kyrie Kyrie Irving's going to play for them at some point.

565
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: So this is an interesting team.

566
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: I mean, like, whether they trade them or not, this

567
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: is still good him coming back and looking awesome and yeah,

568
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: dominating here against Jokichen in Denver, because it's just gonna,

569
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: you know, in theory, increase his trade value. So that's great.

570
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: If they keep them, that's also good too, because he

571
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: paired really nicely. I thought was Cooper Flag and a

572
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: point guard in Ryan Emhart for the Nuggets. This was

573
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: something we talked about when those guys went down with injuries,

574
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: like is Cam Johnson going to step up here now

575
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: and sort of like take on more of a role.

576
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: I thought he had a really quiet, sort of like

577
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: non existing game one to six from deep, three to

578
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,959
Speaker 1: ten overall, so only ten points. I didn't feel his

579
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: impact out there all that much at all. I sort

580
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: of forgot it was. The game started with just going

581
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: to Spencer Jones for every basketball. That guy's got a

582
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: funky looking shot. Eh, holy man, he's got the Reggie

583
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: Miller like his arm like comes out weird. But he

584
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: was scoring and Jokic was finning him because the Mavericks,

585
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: I think, were like, who the hell is this guy?

586
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: But yeah, Cam Johnson, come on, man, I need a

587
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: little bit more here, so especially stepping into the role

588
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: with those guys out and then Jamal Murray going out. Yeah,

589
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't great from the Nuggets and they're

590
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 1: fourteen and six over also great record still, but like

591
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: you said, struggling at home, which is weird, weird, very

592
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: very weird.

593
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 3: And most of their losses are against under five hundred teams,

594
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: like they lost to the Balls, they lost to the Mavericks, here,

595
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 3: Kings maybe, and then I think the Spurs.

596
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 2: That's been the Bulls, Kang Spurs and Matt's to their

597
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 2: last four loss focus problem fascinating.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take a quick break, but lots

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Speaker 1: the game itself. Miami Heat on fire from three tied

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632
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,920
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Speaker 2: You know, watching that Clippers run, I thought the Clippers

634
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,720
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635
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636
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637
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,960
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638
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: the last two games, because they have swung and missed

639
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: on all of their offseason transactions, and everybody looks old.

640
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: Their bench has been struggling but to see that guy

641
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: score six straight and then Kawhi was awesome. So they

642
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: had an eighteen to two run. I thought that was

643
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: the best part of their game because then here comes

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00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: that heat run that you mentioned. It was. It was

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Speaker 2: thirty two. Yeah, twenty to zero to start, and they

646
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: had a forty one point second quarter. The Clippers were

647
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: just dropping on every single pick. They were dropping and

648
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: allowing the heat fire from three and so that's why

649
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: you saw so many And Tyron lu said, you know what,

650
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes into the third quarter, you guys

651
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 2: are all sitting. He sat every single one of his starters.

652
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: Some of them came back, but it was a real

653
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: hockey move. All five of you guys after two minutes

654
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: sit down. Yeah. He was mad obviously because they were

655
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: getting destroyed. So that drop defense wasn't working. James Harden

656
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: finally had a bad game, so overall, and he.

657
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: Was the guy that they were just back by the

658
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: way when they pulled all five guys. That's the word

659
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: we did not see James Harden, I don't think for

660
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: the rest of the right.

661
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was worrisome.

662
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: Thoughts on the game itself here on the heat putting

663
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: up another one forty.

664
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 3: It looked like the Clippers were shocked that the Heat

665
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 3: were taking these threes like they had never seen him

666
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: play this year. Miami likes to play fast, and they

667
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 3: walked into so many open three pointers, starting with bam

668
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 3: out of Baio on one of the first possessions of

669
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 3: the game, just wide open from the top of the key.

670
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 3: So many of these looks were wide open for Miami. Unfortunately,

671
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 3: the NBA dot Com video box scores were not updated

672
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 3: today because I feel like Eric Reid was like twenty

673
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: for twenty four kabooming, Oh you was kabooming hard hard

674
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: hit kabam for a bam out of Bayo. I like that,

675
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 3: but a disappointing effort from the Clippers. They're really struggling

676
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 3: this season, and it's because they're not playing defense, and this,

677
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: to me, looked like they didn't have a game plan

678
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 3: at all for how to combat a team like the Heat,

679
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 3: which are a bad matchup for them just because of

680
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: the athleticism difference and the commitment to pace that Miami

681
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 3: has made this season. So if the Clippers come out

682
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: and they aren't gonna run, they're gonna get smacked like

683
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: this twenty four to nine from the three point line.

684
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: That's really the story of the entire game.

685
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, Bam hit that one to start early.

686
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: He finished with five threes. Norman Powell again revenge game

687
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: for norm six to ten from deep. Wiggins hit two.

688
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: Davion Mitchell didn't miss from three. He went four for four,

689
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: Tyler Hero went four to six. A couple guys on

690
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: the bench chipping in a three here and there, but

691
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: the starters, I just went through the five starters there.

692
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: They all were on fire from deep. So everybody. This

693
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: wasn't the case of one guy was on fire and

694
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: it was all weird flukey. They were all wide open shots.

695
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: Because there's no defensive backbone to this team. Nobody cares

696
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: right now too, this is concerned.

697
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a lot of threes. Twenty four threes overall.

698
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: They hit fourteen in the first half, and yeah, a

699
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: lot of them were just hey, we're playing drop defense

700
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: and they didn't want it. They're obviously struggling to get

701
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: back in transition. They're Oldham is obviously a big problem

702
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: with that. And you know, literally when I start, I

703
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: started talking about Jordan Miller because I have hopes for

704
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: somebody off the bench just to help out, but nobody

705
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 2: really else was helping out off the bench otherwise. You know,

706
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: he had six points and then Batoom had three. So

707
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: that's why they got spanked in that second quarter and

708
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: they ain't coming back even though Tyler said, you all

709
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: sit because we need something. I mean as well at

710
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 2: that point. Yeah, I can't even blame them, Yeah, no, no.

711
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 2: It kind of helped them. But what they really want

712
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: is what the heater doing. The on ball defense of

713
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: Daveian Mitchell and Andrew Wiggins is just there every single time,

714
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: and that's important. That's that's their their defense, and the

715
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: Clippers they do not have that.

716
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: That was Miami's fifth time reaching the one hundred and

717
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 1: forty point mark this season, after getting there a total

718
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: of eight times in the franchisees thirty seven seasons. They've

719
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: done it five times this year one they hit that mark.

720
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: They did it eight combined times in the franchise's history.

721
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: So that's how great this offense is clicking right now.

722
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: But let's pivot back to the clips and let's trade

723
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: some guys because they need to, like they legit need

724
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: to blow this up. I think I don't think this

725
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 1: is going to fix itself here, so maybe they look

726
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 1: at moving one of their main guys for whatever. Yeah,

727
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: some players, some young players, some draft capital. So what

728
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: do you got here?

729
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: I agree? It's December. Second, the Clippers are five and sixteen.

730
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 2: They have to be thinking about trading some of their

731
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 2: big parts because their offseason transit transactions were all swinging.

732
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 2: Miss Bradley Beal. He's already out for the season with

733
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: an injury. Brook Lopez has been yanked from the rotation,

734
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: and the Norman Powell for John Collins trade really really

735
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: hurts them offensively. Their old guys are not getting younger.

736
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 2: So I propose some deals for each one of their

737
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: big guys. Let's start with Kawhi Leonard. Kawhi Leonard to

738
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: the Miami Heat. Now this trade works on all the

739
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: trade boards out there, all your trade machines. Okay, the

740
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: Heat received Kawhi Leonard, the Clippers would receive Andrew Wiggins,

741
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: Simoni Fontacio, Nikola Jovich a young guy. We need a

742
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 2: young yes, young Kashaw Johnson and a twenty twenty nine

743
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: first round pick. What do you guys think of that?

744
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,479
Speaker 2: Wiggy Fontakyo Yovich, Kashaw Johnson and a first round pick

745
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 2: for Kawhi Leonard.

746
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: So if I'm the Heat, I'm upgrading Andrew Wiggins for

747
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard, sign me up. I don't mind that at

748
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: all for them. For them, this is you know, are

749
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: the Clippers sort of getting enough here in exchange? I

750
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: don't know, but I think Miami is definitely considering this

751
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: because that's what the upgrade is, and they're playing well,

752
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 1: and it's a wide open East, as we keep saying,

753
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: feels like it is. So I don't mind that.

754
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 3: I actually think this is a pretty good trade from

755
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 3: both sides. I don't think I'm totally convinced Kawhi is

756
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: a huge upgrade over Andrew Wiggins at this point. Okay, okay, sure,

757
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 3: Kawhi has better stats across the board in literally every

758
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,479
Speaker 3: single category including percentages, except for Wiggins is a little

759
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 3: bit better passer. But Wiggins plays yes, yeah, that's that's huge. Yeah,

760
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 3: and he plays fast. Kawhi Leonard doesn't play fast. We

761
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 3: see it with the Clippers. This is a huge key

762
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 3: for the Miami Heat, running and gunning, shooting three pointers,

763
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 3: getting off the ball, driving and kicking. Wiggins is bought

764
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 3: into this system. Right now, whereas with who you play

765
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: with Kawhi all he wants to do is io and

766
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 3: shoot midrange jumpers.

767
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: But there are a lot of ISO possessions on the

768
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: Heat too, and he is still an elite ISO player,

769
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: so he sort of fits that mold I hear you

770
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: on the pace of everything. But he also then is

771
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: not asked to do as much in this really good

772
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,959
Speaker 1: Heat team with Pam and Tyler Hero and Noran playing

773
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: the way he is. It was interesting he didn't have

774
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: Tyler Hero going out in this, I thought, which is

775
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: what I think the Clippers would be, like, we want

776
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: Tyler Hero, want a younger guy that can score and

777
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: play with some juice. But okay, he doesn't mind the deal. Yeah.

778
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: I was trying to make the package the one that

779
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: I think the Clippers could actually get that type of quality.

780
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: And I know Kawhi Leonard's a freaking good player, but

781
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 2: he's thirty four, he's paid for this year and next year,

782
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 2: and as you said about Andrew Wigans, that guy plays.

783
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: I'm just that is a huge factor here with Kawhi.

784
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: We are we're getting close to a point in Kawhi's

785
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: career where we don't know if he's gonna be playing

786
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: the playoffs.

787
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's clear, and that's why you're trading him to

788
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: a team that believes they are one a guy like

789
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: Kawhi away from like competing for a title. Be it

790
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: the Heat. I guess other teams would be the Warriors,

791
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: let's say the Box like that are like struggling right

792
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: now and need to get back up to that level

793
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: in their cases. But like it's tough to make a

794
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: deal with those teams.

795
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: Exactly so they are they are. I went through the

796
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 2: trade machine for the Warriors. Didn't look good just because

797
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 2: of how top heavy they are in their salaries. You

798
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: ain't trading stuff. You ain't trading Dramond, you ain't trading Jimmy.

799
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,479
Speaker 1: Comingo's a part of it. That's what the Clippers would want. Okay,

800
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: now you're talking on about something, but then yeah, to

801
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: get there.

802
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Heat definitely want a guy to play

803
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: io ball at times in the playoffs, like come playoffs.

804
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: I think Spolstro will say we need somebody to just produce. Well,

805
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: Kawhi be out there is a fair question, are what

806
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: they're giving up here a first round pick? Is that

807
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: too much for for the for the Miami Heat. I

808
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: don't know. I think this is doable. Yovich has not

809
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: lived up to that contract that he signed this offseason.

810
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 2: He's coming off the bench and he hasn't been one

811
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 2: of those quick movers. Move that ball, play io if

812
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: you need to. So he's trying.

813
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: He's not good with the ball. I had higher hopes

814
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: for him. He's in year four. I talked with Koc

815
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: on his podcast yesterday about Yovac. He came up and

816
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: I was I expected bigger things. Like we brought up

817
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: the game that they just had against the Pistons, I

818
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: think where he coughed the ball over like twice in

819
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: a ten second span and they were just like they

820
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: were the bad turnovers. It was like, I don't what

821
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: are you doing. You're panicking, you're giving it up, you

822
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: don't trust your handle. So yeah, yeah, Like, but I

823
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: mean on all that to say, like I understand like

824
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: a player like that going to the Clippers or going

825
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: to a new spot, maybe like he unlocks something and

826
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: he's still not like going to be out of the

827
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: league next year. And I'm not saying that like there's

828
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 1: something there. He's just really been bad and the Heat

829
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: have so many guys that Spolstro just goes to ahead

830
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: of him. Now, like no, like obviously Hawkes Junior is

831
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: like bounced back. There's so many other guys on the wing,

832
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: Paul Larson and stuff like that, so he's also just

833
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: getting squeezed in terms of opportunity. But maybe uh going

834
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 1: to LA and playing in the into It Dome when unbox.

835
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 3: Okay, I love it. I mean it's interesting.

836
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting, pretty fair, I think. Yeah.

837
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: Okay, let's move on to James Harden. James Harden moving

838
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 2: to the Minnesota Timberwolves. The package that would be coming

839
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 2: back to have James Harden playing beside Anthony Edwards. Would

840
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: that work? The package would be nos Reed, Mike Conley,

841
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: Rob Dillingham, a young e there for the oldie Clippers,

842
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 2: and Joe Ingles. Now, this can't be done till January fifteenth,

843
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: and Minnesota would have to sign three players because that's

844
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 2: taken a lot of guys off their rosters. So they're

845
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 2: two ways with great names like Johnny joo Zang and

846
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: Riek Freeman and rock O zik Karski. You're up, boys,

847
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: You're no longer two ways. That being said, what do

848
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 2: you guys think of nos Reed, Conley, Dillingham and Ingles

849
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: going to the Wolves. Excuse me going the clips?

850
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, what do you think about Harden on

851
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: the Timberwolves.

852
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 3: I don't hate it.

853
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: So you want to point guard that, you're yeah, trust here,

854
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 1: I guess obviously with Conley too old, Dillingham too young,

855
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: you know, not there yet or maybe never will be.

856
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: So here you go, you get hearted.

857
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 3: I don't think they're really giving up all that much

858
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 3: the Timberwolves would. Conley is a good guy to have around.

859
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 3: I don't have a lot of faith in Dillingham right now.

860
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: Joe Ingles inbounce the ball, he.

861
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 2: Knows the play.

862
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: Is the best player leaving for the Timberwolves, but he's

863
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 3: kind of struggling this season. He's got a long contract.

864
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 3: They've got players at his position, though maybe gober isn't

865
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 3: long for the Timberwolves with his contract coming to a

866
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 3: close pretty soon. Here, they would have to pay Harden

867
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 3: right away because he is going to be a free

868
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 3: agent or at least extension eligible after the season. So

869
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: would you rather play pay nas Reed at twenty six

870
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 3: years old for the next four years or James Harden

871
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 3: at thirty six for the next four years. I think

872
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: that's a tough question to answer.

873
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: There.

874
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 3: My dream location for Harden is somehow making his way

875
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 3: to the Rockets, big shot maker for them, but that's

876
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: almost impossible without Fred van Vliet being included or a

877
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 3: ton of picks. But I don't know. It does feel

878
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: to me like the Timberwolves need some sort of a shakeup,

879
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 3: like they're a good team, but there are.

880
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: Teams that are clearly ahead of them right now, right

881
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 2: and so that's why I concluded Harden here going to Minnesota.

882
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: The other option was, yeah, the Rockets, as you said,

883
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 2: they need somebody to make shots. Is Anthony Edwards in

884
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 2: this scenario, okay, with hard and handling the ball so much,

885
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: because he has been focusing and increasing his possessions at

886
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: the end of games as the guy can hard and

887
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: play off that at times in the postseason he can,

888
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 2: And so I do think this is an interesting one.

889
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 2: I do think this thins out their front court the

890
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 2: Timberwolves a little bit, because it's Rudy Gobert getting older

891
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,479
Speaker 2: along with Julius Randall, and then you're getting super young

892
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: beyond that. So that's that's the scary part of things

893
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 2: for the Timberwolves. I'm not sure they would even even

894
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: do this.

895
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: Were you tickering with the trade machine in a Wolves

896
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: Clipper's Harden Randall sort of thing here. I didn't Randall.

897
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: I didn't throw Randall in there. And I know Trey

898
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 2: mentioned him on our sub stack page when he's doing

899
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: his power rankings and talking about moving away from Julius Randall.

900
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 2: I didn't do the math on him.

901
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't either, so I was curious.

902
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, just because I mean, he is such a big

903
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 2: part of their team. But he would make I think

904
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: he makes basically what nas plus uh Mike Conley would,

905
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: so it could work financially, I do think.

906
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: Right the idea of the Wolves shake it up, though,

907
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: it's like get a guard, yeah, and get rid of

908
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: one of your bigs in having sort of the luxury

909
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: of having three, you know, pretty good. Even though I'm

910
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: with TK, I think Nasri has struggled. I think he

911
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: had hess had a weird career. He like facilitates back

912
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: and forth between underrated and overrated. It's like I feel

913
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: like it switches all the time with him. But that's

914
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: the plan. At least you'd move out one of your

915
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: bigs and then you would try and get a guard,

916
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: but James harden Man is the defense gonna you know

917
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: around him, going to be good enough. Maybe you believe

918
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: in you still be fine if Edwards plays at an

919
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: elite level, McDaniels, go bear, you still like your back bone?

920
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: Sure to hell of a shakeup.

921
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 3: It'd be a big time shaking big and you could

922
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: of that stuff a big time. Yeah. He loves a

923
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: big swing kind of train and bringing in Hardened to

924
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 3: the Timberwolves would be a big swing. You can make

925
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 3: it work with Randall slotting in instead of nas Read

926
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 3: and some other contracts there. It's just a little bit

927
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 3: more complicated, but teams don't usually sell high. That's the thing.

928
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: Like Randall's playing well, leading the team and assist, but

929
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 3: to me, his assists are all I can't get a bucket,

930
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 3: so I'm gonna drop it off for an assist. These

931
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 3: aren't like in the flow of the offense, creating for

932
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 3: other assists all the time. That's something harden is good

933
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 3: at it. We take a lot of responsibility off Anthony Edwards.

934
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 3: Plate those two in the same locker room seems pretty

935
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 3: hilarious to imagine Harden and Edwards. They'll be on some

936
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 3: Instagram pages. I do believe if they were together, but

937
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 3: I don't know. Like I said, I think the Timberwolves

938
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 3: need some kind of a shake up, even though I've

939
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: gone too straight. Why conference finals? Yeah, once they get there,

940
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 3: they haven't been super.

941
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:04,439
Speaker 1: Competitive in either.

942
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, I wonder if this is too much

943
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 2: of a shake up for a team that's made two

944
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: conference finals. That being said, they traded away Karl Anthony Towns,

945
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: would they want to trade another one of their bigs

946
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: again it's Rudy Gobert. And then you're just hoping like

947
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: a yo Enn Baron Jay can Phil minutes because yeah,

948
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: you rely on Randall, but you're pretty thin upfront. So

949
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: this is an interesting the return for the wool, I.

950
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: Mean for the clips, like for this hypothetical heart into Timberwolves,

951
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: Like that's not bad. Like the Dillingham piece is obviously

952
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: very enticing. It is Nasried is a good player, Conley

953
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: a great vet. You know, whether he's like swung somewhere else,

954
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 1: Joe Ingle, same thing. Like these are obviously professional guys.

955
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: So that's like not brutal.

956
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 2: No I am and no I was red. I don't know.

957
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: It feels like he's been around a while, He's only

958
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 2: twenty six, and Dillingham's super young. I wonder if there's

959
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 2: more out there for James Harden in return. I'm not

960
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: sure that's a pretty good return. That being said, the

961
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 2: last guy I'm going to go to. With the Los

962
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: Angeles Clippers moving somebody up, it ain't moving a huge

963
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: name out at all. Maybe they want to go for it,

964
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: Maybe they want to say for what, well, for six wins. Well, basically,

965
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 2: when we saw Norm Powell traded away for John Collins,

966
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: we saw so much of their offense just go poof.

967
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: They need somebody to be able to score the ball.

968
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 2: So let's say they bring in Zach Levine from the

969
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 2: Sacramento Kings in return for John Collins, bog Down, Bogdanovic, Yannick,

970
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 2: Conan Kniederhauser, and Kobe Brown. The Kings are basically getting

971
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: some size and John Collins are getting a little younger

972
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 2: and Cordon Niederhaeuser, Conan Kniederhauser, and I mean they get

973
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: off Levine. That's what it is here.

974
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: Take crap for your crap.

975
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

976
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

977
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 2: Money wise, Levine is paid this year and then he's

978
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: a player option for next year, So the Kings say, well,

979
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 2: rather have a John Collins in here, We'll see what

980
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 2: that big guy, old Neederhouser can do for us, even

981
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: though he hasn't done much for the Clippers at all

982
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: in year number one. The Clippers just don't have draft picks,

983
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 2: so they may say, I don't think this is necessarily

984
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: a season here where Balmer says we gotta trade Kawhi

985
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 2: or Hard. Maybe they just say we need somebody else.

986
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 2: We need talent, as our guys said, as Kawhi basically said,

987
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: we need talent. Exactly means talented. He can put points

988
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 2: on the board. I don't know if this is enough

989
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 2: for the Kings going back to them, but how much

990
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: is coming back for the Kings for exactly Vine?

991
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think?

992
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 3: This almost makes too much sense because it would change nothing,

993
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 3: just be moving a lot of guys around so I

994
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 3: can do it. You're like, oh, Levine, man, he's an

995
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 3: efficient score. The Clippers need somebody, can go get a bucket.

996
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 3: You can do that. He doesn't do anything else. Uh,

997
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 3: and he's gonna want to be paid as well. He'll

998
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 3: have an extension or be eligible for an extension going

999
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 3: into the next year, unless they just say, just play

1000
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 3: it out, take your player option. I suppose they could

1001
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 3: do that and then start the rebuild in earnest In

1002
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 3: La John Collins, like the Kings could use a big guy.

1003
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Dan Bogdanovic going back home.

1004
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Actually, Kings are more interested in this weird

1005
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: deal than maybe the Clippers are, because at least they

1006
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: get some flyers. Yeah, the guys to fill some some

1007
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: holes in there. Obviously roster Kip the Marie back, so

1008
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: they obviously power for now. But this really is the

1009
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: equivalent of like the Kings on one side of the

1010
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: street and the Clippers on the other side of the street,

1011
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: and they both got garage sales going, and the Clippers

1012
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: are like, I got a bunch of beatie babies here. Well,

1013
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: you guys that TV work now barely works. Let's just

1014
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: swap them. Tired of looking at these beanie babies. Well yeah,

1015
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm tired of holding this TV man. It's cost me

1016
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: a fortune. This works, This is ye works.

1017
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 3: Babies.

1018
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: What's that?

1019
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 3: Who do you think is the beanie babies? Are the Kings?

1020
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: The Clippers have a bunch of beanie babies, Okay, yeah. Yeah,

1021
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: the TV's the whole zachly Bean's the old TV. Ye.

1022
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 2: What are the new beanie babies? The yeah, the boo

1023
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 2: boo boo. Yeah. And and as far as the head

1024
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: of the Beanie Beanie Beanie Babies on the Clippers, they

1025
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 2: look at this and may say, we have got our

1026
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 2: entire roster paid through next season, and I don't know

1027
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 2: if we can give away Kawhi and Harden all that,

1028
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 2: So let's just try something here with zach Lavine to

1029
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 2: up our offense because that would help.

1030
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, the issues like their defense also sucks. Yes, so

1031
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: we ain't.

1032
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 3: Gonna held that.

1033
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 2: No, No, he's not. Ye, that's a tough spot. They're

1034
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 2: in a super tough spot. But this is the year

1035
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 2: of the into It Dome having the All Star Game,

1036
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 2: and a bomber might say we are going forward because

1037
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're if they're pulling the plug

1038
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 2: here on a Kawhi or Hard And I think it's

1039
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: a fair possibility that they trade for somebody to shake

1040
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 2: things up. So there's three deals. Tell me how dumb

1041
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 2: they are. If they're doable, I know they don't really

1042
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 2: excite a lot of people. I'd say from both sides were.

1043
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: Talking about these are emergency podcasts, oh across.

1044
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: The board, all three of these Hardened on the Wolves depending,

1045
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:35,240
Speaker 2: it's interesting.

1046
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: Depending we can are we jumping on to do an

1047
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: emergency podcast on the weekend? Kai yes, Kahi yes. If

1048
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: he goes to a team where you're like whoa, whoa,

1049
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: that maybe changes the landscape.

1050
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 2: Harden on the Wolves, Yeah, I would say, Kawi hards

1051
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 2: they do without me both.

1052
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 3: I'm harden to me or both emergency podcasts and uh a,

1053
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 3: Beanie Baby's for TV. Trade. Look, that's only if it

1054
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 3: happens during the week of the trade deadline, you know,

1055
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: like on a Monday afternoon.

1056
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right, I got hop in the yard, right,

1057
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: that's fair, That's fair, all right, great stuff tasks. We're

1058
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot more fun with the trade machines

1059
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: here as we get closer and closer to the trade deadline,

1060
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: which is February fifth, is the actual trade deadline. The

1061
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: reason I know that I noted last night during the

1062
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: broadcast the Olympics, the Winter Olympics start February sixth, I said,

1063
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: thank god, thank god, the trade deadline will be done

1064
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: before the Olympics start. So I thought in my head.

1065
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: Although I'm not as into the Winter Olympics as I

1066
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: am in the Summer Olympics, that's still you know ya.

1067
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: You can catch me. You can get me with a

1068
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: good story. You can give me a good speed skating story.

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00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 3: I'm in Bonnie Blair. What a legend. All right.

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00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: Some other games, we gotta briefly touch on the Sun

1071
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: snapping the Lakers seven game winning streak with the dominant

1072
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: one twenty five one eight victory. Luca nine turnovers tied

1073
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: a career high, and this is wild. All nine of

1074
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: his turnovers resulted in steals for the Suns, which was

1075
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: the most live ball turnovers by any player in a

1076
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: game this season, according to ESPN research. A whole bunch

1077
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: of live ball turnovers. And on the other side, Dylan

1078
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: the Villain, a guy you wrote about on substack tasks.

1079
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: Hit the link in the show notes, join our substack page.

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00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: He was awesome, and he was agitating the crowd, and

1081
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: he's mocking Lebron doing his shoulder flex, poking the bear

1082
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: and backing it up with a great, great game from him.

1083
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,479
Speaker 2: The Sun's played harder. I want to give Dylan Brooks credit.

1084
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 2: I want to give Colin Gillespie credit. At the same time,

1085
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 2: they simply just played harder. We all know. Even though

1086
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: Luca came out dropped twenty in the first quarter, they

1087
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 2: didn't have it and you could see the absence of

1088
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 2: what Marcus Smart means to this team. He was out.

1089
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 2: I don't know why Vando didn't come in because I

1090
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 2: know JJ Redick doesn't trust him. But no one was

1091
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: moving the ball. Rua Murray he almost had a Tony

1092
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: Snell line. Yeah, this game a lot of cardio, Yeah,

1093
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 2: super close. But he did a big board, Yeah, one

1094
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 2: big board. I don't know how any times he touched

1095
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 2: the ball. He didn't.

1096
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: He didn't touch it much.

1097
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 2: He's out there speaking of the box score.

1098
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 1: Did you see the Lakers had one steal zero blocks? Wow,

1099
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: I mean it's rare. That is pretty rare.

1100
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 3: But it also kind of felt like that, like this

1101
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 3: has got to be a little bit of a concerning game,

1102
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 3: I think for JJ Reddick, just the way the Lakers

1103
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 3: were completely shredded on pick and rolls. Like DeAndre Ayton,

1104
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 3: he was in voots shrug mode all night long, like,

1105
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 3: you know, trying to help on a pick and roll

1106
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 3: but easily to pick off whoever was the point of

1107
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 3: attack defender for the Lakers, so that guy gets lost.

1108
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 3: The Naytan doesn't really step to anybody. He's like caught

1109
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 3: in no man's land in between, and nobody's tagging the

1110
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 3: roller behind. I thought really played a pretty bad game,

1111
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 3: maybe influenced by this post that's going around on Twitter

1112
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 3: of just the Lakers yelling at really NonStop for him

1113
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 3: being in the wrong place all the time. He's always

1114
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 3: in the wrong both ends of the court. They're like,

1115
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 3: I'll stand over there, and then it's just Lebron somehow

1116
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 3: finds him for a pass wide open three in the corner.

1117
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 3: But twenty six points or twenty eight to two fast

1118
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 3: break points for it was Steel after Steele going the

1119
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 3: other way, eighteen assists for the Lakers. It was just

1120
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 3: the Sun's doing a great job of being smart with

1121
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 3: their help defense. Like I don't know if Mark Williams

1122
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 3: can technically have a revenge game against the Lakers, but

1123
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 3: it felt like he did really well. He was really

1124
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,919
Speaker 3: good help defense, and then the perimeter guys were able

1125
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 3: to stay attached to the shooters, probably because not a

1126
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,479
Speaker 3: lot of threatening guys out there all the time.

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00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 1: For the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: So a great performance I thought from the Suns. Gillespie

1129
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 3: went nuts in the fourth quarter and Dylan Brooks was

1130
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 3: hilarious guy and he was even yeah, amazing.

1131
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: Had twenty three in the first half, fifteen in the

1132
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: second quarter that helped them get that big lead. There

1133
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: was one span where Dylan the villain was ten of

1134
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: eleven from the floor and he was definitely feeling it.

1135
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: I love this quote after the game from Colin about

1136
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: Dylan Brooks. Sometimes I'm trying to tell him to chill out,

1137
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: but I think he just blacks out. I think Dylan

1138
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: Brooks blacked out last night. But look, he was backing

1139
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: it up.

1140
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 3: He was.

1141
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: And this is a few especially between Dylan Brooks and

1142
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: Lebron James, goes back to Dylan Brook's time with the Grizzlies,

1143
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: when that's the whole poke the bear thing came about

1144
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: and then it didn't go well for Dylan, and they

1145
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: don't think he ever played again for the Grizzlies after

1146
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: that series. But obviously I sort of reinvented himself a

1147
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: little bit here with the Rockets and then now here

1148
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: with Phoenix and they're thirteen and nine, and this is

1149
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: a very tough part of their schedule here. It's like

1150
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: they're playing the best teams basically in the Western Conference.

1151
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: Got the win over the Lakers on the road. Now

1152
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: they go to Houston, so it could be a revenge

1153
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: game there for Dylan Brooks. Then they go to Minnesota

1154
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: a little bit lower obviously in standings, and then they

1155
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: go to Okacs, and then then they played two games

1156
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: against the Warriors, then the Lakers. Again, very difficult stretch.

1157
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that first game against Houston, though they've Houston's got

1158
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 2: a make up for losing against the Utah Jazz the

1159
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 2: way they did last night. But we're talking about a

1160
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 2: Phoenix Suns team that goes and beats LA. We didn't

1161
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 2: even mention Devin Booker because he left this game after

1162
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 2: only ten minutes play.

1163
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: They didn't need him.

1164
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 2: They had Brooks and Colin Gillespie combining for sixty one

1165
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 2: freakive points. That's a lot of points against a team

1166
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: with Luka doncic Cheu. Again, yeah, he scored a lot,

1167
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 2: as I said, twenty points in the first quarter. But

1168
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 2: you could just see even from the first quarter this

1169
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: team was not going to move the ball. You mentioned

1170
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 2: those the lack of assists trade there with you. Eighteen

1171
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 2: or nineteen depending on the box score that you look at.

1172
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 2: That's just not a lot for this team. They did

1173
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 2: not look cohesive at all. Too many turnovers for this

1174
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 2: team and the Suns were just running twenty eight two

1175
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 2: in fast breakpoints. I mean, that's that just tells you

1176
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 2: the Lakers turners were self inflicted though as well, Like

1177
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 2: the Sons were good and playing hard, but the Lakers

1178
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 2: were not ready to play.

1179
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: You said Lucas scored a lot, but that may have

1180
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: been the game plan from the Suns, because Luca after

1181
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: the game said, I feel like it definitely was a

1182
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: different defense than other teams play. They were kind of

1183
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: trying to let me go score instead of creating for others. Absolutely,

1184
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: so it was kind of confusing. But like I said,

1185
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: I just can't have it. And he's talking about the

1186
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: habit with the nine turnovers. He took full responsibility sloppy play,

1187
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: but was a little perplexed by how the Sons were

1188
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: more staying at home on other guys and letting him

1189
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: maybe try and operate one on one.

1190
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 3: There were a lot of passes that Luca often makes

1191
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 3: to the corners, you know, like driving in getting the

1192
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 3: help and then just chucking out to the corner and

1193
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 3: there was just a guy standing there the entire time,

1194
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 3: So I thought, pretty smart stuff from the Sun's coaching staff.

1195
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: Did you see a mirror sitting courtside? I did not.

1196
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, great seats, damn two seats down from Derek Fisher,

1197
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 3: him and the guy he was with. When Colin Gillaspie

1198
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 3: was going nuts. You should have seen the was a

1199
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 3: jake that was not according to the Grand probably a

1200
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 3: Meres agent if I have guessed.

1201
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, sees are that good? Very nice, very

1202
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: nice nice, So great win from Phoenix. Another game I

1203
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: wanted to get your take on was Kid Cunningham starring

1204
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: late again as the Pistons hang on to beat the Hawks.

1205
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: Sad kakaw close game though ninety nine ninety eight. Tray

1206
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: any takeaways from the teams under one hundred? What's going

1207
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: on over there? Yeah?

1208
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 3: I think Nuggets and Maps were both over one hundred

1209
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 3: by the end of the third quarter. But Hawks got

1210
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 3: into this game in the fourth, had taken a lead

1211
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 3: by playing a zone defense and daring Detroit to take

1212
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 3: some three pointers. Detroit went five of twenty six from

1213
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 3: the three point line on the night, but for whatever reason,

1214
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 3: the Hawks gave up on the zone midway through the

1215
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 3: fourth quarter. I thought that's when kid Cunningham started playing

1216
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 3: the way he wanted to, whether it being pick and

1217
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 3: roll or just attacking one on one. With a tie

1218
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 3: game three minutes and fifty seven fifty seconds left, Caid

1219
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 3: scored eight of the last ten points for the Pistons.

1220
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 3: They were making good defensive players. Ron Hollow played really well,

1221
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 3: Karris Lavert was active in passing lanes. It's hard. Thompson

1222
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 3: I thought was really good in the fourth quarter, and

1223
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 3: then Kate had an incredible shot this dagger layup. Yeah,

1224
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 3: what maybe twenty seconds left? The Hawks are trying to

1225
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 3: trap him. He somehow scored on all five Hawks. He

1226
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 3: splits Johnson and Daniels with a spin move at about

1227
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 3: half court and then he goes through wallace of Coongwu

1228
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 3: and Nikil Alexander Walker to get to his left and

1229
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 3: finish on the other side of the court. He's been

1230
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 3: in an awesome clutch player all year long, and this

1231
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 3: was him putting the team on his back when they

1232
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 3: weren't looking all that efficient on the offensive end and saying, hey,

1233
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:35,919
Speaker 3: I'll take us to a nice w here.

1234
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, how many times this season already have we said

1235
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: basically Caid Cunningham scored eight of his final points over

1236
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: the final three minutes to help the Pistons pull out

1237
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: a rally in a victory. So many times all the

1238
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: AP reports start with that in every Pistons when it

1239
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: feels like because he's done it time and time again

1240
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: this season. But that was It was a fun game.

1241
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't high scoring, but two of these

1242
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: teams on the come up for sure.

1243
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And after Cunningham hit a pull up jumper, it

1244
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 2: was a two point game. Thirty seconds left, we saw

1245
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 2: our guy.

1246
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: Was.

1247
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 2: It was Dyson Daniels inbounding the ball and he got

1248
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 2: it back and I thought he had a beautiful path

1249
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 2: to the lane and he had. Jalen Duran was there,

1250
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,439
Speaker 2: but he decided to pass out to on Yaka Kongo,

1251
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 2: who was hilariously still jogging out to the three point

1252
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 2: line and then turned around and caught it and then

1253
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 2: shot a three pointer that he missed. I thought Daniel

1254
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 2: should have shot that thing and tied that thing. And

1255
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,919
Speaker 2: I just mentioned that because the fourth quarter was fun

1256
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 2: to watch the Atlanta Hawks play basketball in the offensive end.

1257
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 2: Just how many guys are touching that thing. Jalen Johnson's

1258
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 2: on this incredible run that we talked about yesterday. Last

1259
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 2: three games now thirty three points, thirteen boards, almost nine assists,

1260
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: fifty percent from the floor, just doing it all. Nikael

1261
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 2: Alexander Walker on a frick and run those three games

1262
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 2: twenty six, thirty four and thirty to go along with

1263
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 2: Dyson Daniels. So I just mentioned on Yaka Kongo stepping

1264
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 2: into the fourth guy. I believe in the Zachary Resa

1265
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 2: sche growth at some point. It is fun just to

1266
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 2: watch this team. So this was just a game. Even

1267
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 2: though they weren't scoring, it was fun to watch.

1268
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 3: The other games.

1269
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: Last night Wizards beat the Bucks. Yeah, Kevin Porter Junior

1270
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: had a big game. But Middleton revenge game. Colum played

1271
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: well Lowry marketIn scored twenty nine. Caante George. He bounced

1272
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: back after did he have an opher?

1273
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 2: I mean he went over he had an ofer in

1274
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 2: the previous game against the Rockets.

1275
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: That's right. But the Jazz got their revenge against Houston there,

1276
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: so they took care of business. Michael Porter Junior scored

1277
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: a bunch Nets beat the Hornets and then Donovan Mitchell

1278
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: scored even more forty three points. Kaz beat the Pacers.

1279
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Speaker 1: Any of those games you want to highlight TK.

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Speaker 3: I watched Nets versus Hornets live. You are who you are,

1281
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 3: my guys. Literally I turned around. I was like, people

1282
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 3: need to know that we actually watch these teams that

1283
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 3: stink ye facts because they're good.

1284
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: They're still good players out there, so great plays in

1285
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: that game.

1286
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 3: It was a game to watch. MPJ curious, Mike the

1287
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 3: Peanut Man himself. This guy was killing thirty five points,

1288
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 3: four assists. This for Michael Porter Junior. That's like when

1289
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 3: Scott Skiles had thirty assists seven three, yes, not the

1290
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 3: same seven three is for Michael Porter Junior. It was

1291
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 3: his sixth thirty point game of the season. He had

1292
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 3: three last year for the Nuggets. Totally different roles, yeah,

1293
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 3: at this point, but he was just letting it fly

1294
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 3: anytime he had a sliver of daylight. And that's why

1295
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 3: he owes Nick Claxton some kind of a dinner. I

1296
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 3: know Michael Porter Junior doesn't like to tip for his dinners.

1297
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 3: You gotta tip, even if you're spending a lot of

1298
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 3: money on your dinners. Nine screen assists for Claxton last night,

1299
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 3: twenty four screen assist points. Yeah, I was deep, that

1300
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 3: is deep in the data checking the screen assist and

1301
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 3: he was able to pick off whoever was guarding Michael

1302
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 3: Porter Junior. And then it didn't matter if they double

1303
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 3: team him anyways. He would just shoot over the top.

1304
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 3: Danny Wolfe played the entire fourth quarter.

1305
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 2: That's your guy.

1306
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 3: Whustock literally hit in ahoo after he hit a d

1307
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 3: three in the fourth quarter, but ten points, five boards.

1308
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 3: He moves the ball. I don't think he ever touches

1309
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 3: the ball of two hands when he passes it. If

1310
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 3: he drives to the lane, it's like a one hand

1311
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 3: dish to the outside. If he's swinging the ball, it's

1312
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 3: just a little scoop underneath. It's a very funny way

1313
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 3: to play. He's very big. He's a seven footer. Yeah,

1314
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 3: and he's maybe not going to block a shot the

1315
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 3: entire year. He just stands in the way and hopes

1316
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 3: you miss. Sometimes it works. So I don't know. He

1317
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 3: played well on Saturday. I think he had twenty two

1318
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 3: his first real run for the nets. But it looks

1319
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 3: like he's at least got something. I don't know if

1320
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 3: he's fast enough to be like a starter in the NBA,

1321
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 3: but just an unusual skill set. And it threw down

1322
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 3: a huge dunk on top of Myles Bridge. What was

1323
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 3: the better dog? What was the better dunk? The Wolfman

1324
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 3: himself or clown? He had a huge one.

1325
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: On Health Brenner too.

1326
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, monster, they we're throwing down. Yeah, I gotta check

1327
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 3: the dunk Squorter was better. That's the way I can tell.

1328
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 2: I had no problems watching the Hornets nets. This was

1329
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 2: a great night for a multi screen NBA as lot.

1330
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 2: That was good. It was good. Danny Wolf has got

1331
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 2: some jokes too. They put them on, you know with

1332
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,439
Speaker 2: the in arena feet. If you're watching on the NBA app,

1333
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 2: you see him or you see whatever's going on in

1334
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 2: the in arena. And yeah, he had his little own

1335
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 2: little segment where he was the guy making the jokes

1336
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 2: and they're asking him and people were laughing Danny Wolf.

1337
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was fun to.

1338
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: Watch that segments called people were laughing.

1339
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, people were laughing. I will say people were crying

1340
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 2: watching the Milwaukee Bucks and the Washington Wizards really good.

1341
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 2: They went to Washington. Milwaukee went to Washington. It was

1342
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 2: Greek Night halftime there was Greek dancing happening. It was

1343
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 2: enjoyable to watch because the honis is there. They go

1344
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 2: doing that kind of stuff, and they're destroying the Wizards.

1345
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 2: In the third quarter, they're up double digits. You mentioned

1346
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 2: Kevin Porter Junior. He had his best game of the

1347
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 2: season so far, and the Bucks were bold and they

1348
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 2: had twenty one threes in this game, and they still

1349
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 2: lost because in the fourth quarter they kind of they

1350
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 2: took their foot off the pedal and they said, I

1351
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 2: think they they assumed we're going to win because the

1352
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 2: Wizards had nine second chance points in that fourth quarter,

1353
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 2: you know, fifteen offensive runds overall, twenty second twenty two

1354
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 2: second chance points. That's where they lost this game. And

1355
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 2: then without Alex Sarty' getting those boards and then guys

1356
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 2: like Middleton and McCollum. McCallum hit this freaking shot with

1357
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 2: two seconds left on the shock lock. That was huge

1358
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 2: for them. But somehow the Bucks, yeah, again took their

1359
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 2: foot off the pedal. And I will just say about

1360
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 2: the calves. A day after you mentioned Jalen Tyson's quote

1361
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 2: saying we got to play harder. He had his best

1362
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 2: career game and they had twenty eight second chance points.

1363
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 2: So they played hard even though it was the Pacers.

1364
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,439
Speaker 2: But still, I mean, the Pacers are definitely a more

1365
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 2: respectable team right now. So that was a good win

1366
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 2: for the Calves. Anyways, it seemed like they but I also.

1367
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: Thought of TK saying they only win when Donovan Mitchell

1368
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: goes for like thirty five plus. Now I don't think

1369
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: that was really the case last night because it was

1370
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 1: a pretty comfortable win. But he got there, he got there,

1371
01:05:58,400 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: and he looked amazing.

1372
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 2: Again he's the guy.

1373
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, forty three.

1374
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 2: It's not good for them that they need that, that's

1375
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 2: for sure.

1376
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: Right right, all right, those are the games from last night.

1377
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: It was some good action. You're right. You had the

1378
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: multi view, he said, so all four you have four

1379
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 1: boxes squad.

1380
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 2: Box, so you can go four. You know, you could

1381
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 2: switch a leave quickly, switch one drop one from you know,

1382
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 2: the multi screen. If they go to halftime and you

1383
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 2: don't want to watch the Greek dancing you want to

1384
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 2: watch something.

1385
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: Else being broken or no, just kidding.

1386
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 2: You know those traditional the traditional garments come out. So

1387
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 2: did you know the song? Oh yeah, they all sound

1388
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 2: the same. Okay, they go like this, do do do

1389
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 2: do do? Do anyway, and people dance, So yeah, that's

1390
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 2: that's how it goes. Uh but yeah, and arena it's fun.

1391
01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 2: Was Christian Scooby yesterday was the day before because I

1392
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 2: Christian him last night. No Christians always out.

1393
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: Oh god, guys, he's a busy man. Dogs are busy, Scooby.

1394
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 3: Dogs are busy.

1395
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 1: Scooby has an agent, man, I bet you Christian is

1396
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: his agent, which I think is a conflict of interest

1397
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: for being honest.

1398
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 3: Takes ten percent of scooby s feees. He takes I

1399
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 3: think a lot more than.

1400
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1401
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'll watch it, Scoobs.

1402
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 3: If you're listening or watching, I'd love to represent you.

1403
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Scooby doesn't get enough can time. He doesn't

1404
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 2: get enough camera time. Christian will be out there doing

1405
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 2: his head stands for like four minutes, and I say,

1406
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,439
Speaker 2: where's the dog? It's literally just Christian doing head takes.

1407
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 3: That's what he wants.

1408
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:46,919
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know, But maybe he wants

1409
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 2: the attention. Maybe Christians just lost the attention.

1410
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: Well, dog, we love our guy, Christian man. Scooby is

1411
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: nothing with it.

1412
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 2: Christ WoT is a take all?

1413
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 1: Right? You say Christian is the show? I could not

1414
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: disagree more. I am telling you right now. Pull people

1415
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 1: leaving that arena that had the honor to watch Christian

1416
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 1: Scooby perform at halftime.

1417
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 3: Pull them, say what do you remember from halftime?

1418
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: You think they're canna remember Christian?

1419
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 2: That dog is literally a dog Christian's shoulders.

1420
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 1: The dog also dunks, thank you very much. They've outed that.

1421
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: And the dunk does the transfer from ball the ball,

1422
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: which is always one of the more impressive things. And

1423
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 1: he goes in the little boom box.

1424
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 3: That's where the dog is.

1425
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 2: It's the Christian taught him everything he knows.

1426
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: I understand that. Okay, Christian's dad taught him everything. It's

1427
01:08:50,439 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: literally true all I was just walking on earth little bit,

1428
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 1: a little bit of the night unsullied by sponsorship since November,

1429
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: but if you'd like to sponsor low Boy, get in

1430
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 1: touch with us. Elprin Shengoon is getting wild Boy the night,

1431
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: even though it came in a loss, thirty one points,

1432
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: matched a career high with fourteen assists, shot twelve to

1433
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: nineteen from the field, six of eight at the line,

1434
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:25,879
Speaker 1: grabbed eight boards, game high five blocks, and two steels.

1435
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 1: So Elpie did it all there again in a loss.

1436
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter. With Wildboy thirty eight minutes of action.

1437
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: We didn't talk about that game either, but good good

1438
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: stuff from the Jazz there. You know, it's tough, no

1439
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: matter how bad or good a team is tough to

1440
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,759
Speaker 1: get those back to back wins. The old little Baseball

1441
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 1: series right right? Pick them tonight tasks, where are we

1442
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: going on? Man? Because you and I got a victory last.

1443
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 2: Night, We're going to the NBC game leading the night,

1444
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:55,600
Speaker 2: we're going to Boston. Nicks are visiting, Okay, so I

1445
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 2: had to go with that. The second one is Thunder

1446
01:09:58,720 --> 01:09:59,839
Speaker 2: Warriors on NBC.

1447
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 3: Man.

1448
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 2: We got a decent skid overall, six games overall, but

1449
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 2: I had to go with Boston hosting the Knicks there

1450
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 2: at one point and a half favorite, so they got

1451
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 2: to win by two skeets. You're taking Boston while Trey

1452
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 2: and I are taking the New York Knicks.

1453
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: I thought the line was a little funky fun being honest,

1454
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: what's going on here? I would have thought the Knicks

1455
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: maybe would have been favorite here. I know there's some

1456
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: questionable guy. I know, is Derek White playing? I would

1457
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: really like Derek White to play for my chances here,

1458
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 1: But I think he's questionable last I saw, But yeah,

1459
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take Boston there. They're a weird team, man,

1460
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: is this scrappy Prichard's he's found his shot. He's on

1461
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,560
Speaker 1: a heater right now. Jalen Brown's like one of the

1462
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: top ten players in the league that never gets talked

1463
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: about either. So I'll take Boston a hope.

1464
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were not talked about a ton as we've

1465
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 2: talked about on this show. We Jalen Brown's barely been

1466
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:55,640
Speaker 2: talked about. But they are eleven to nine compared to

1467
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 2: the next thirteen at six. It feels like the Knicks

1468
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 2: are way farther ahead and the Celtics. But you got

1469
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 2: the next tray.

1470
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got the points. You know. That's kind of

1471
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 3: what it all comes down to for me, because both

1472
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 3: teams are playing pretty well right now. Concerning stat I'd

1473
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,799
Speaker 3: heard after I made the pick though, on Zach Low's

1474
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 3: podcast talking with mode Quiel, the Knicks give up more

1475
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 3: threes than any team in the league.

1476
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 2: Celtics do take a lot of threes.

1477
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: Just need to hit them, just need to hit them tonight,

1478
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: boys make them.

1479
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 3: Derek White probable probably gonna.

1480
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 1: Play all right, So that's one of the games on

1481
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 1: Peacock for all NBC for some right, so coast to

1482
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 1: coast night. So the people on the West Coast I

1483
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: do not believe on NBC game.

1484
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 2: Yes, they don't get the early one, that's right. But

1485
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 2: then on the West Coast they get the late one. Yeah.

1486
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 3: Okay, see Golden State that's nice too.

1487
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's nice. Nice. They got Wizard Sixers, okay, Blazers, Raptors, Wolves, Pelicans,

1488
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:02,919
Speaker 1: and Grizzly Spurs. Yeah, that's We will be here tomorrow

1489
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: to potentially talk about some of those games. But also

1490
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 1: this is fun. We got special guests tomorrow. Pierre Andresen

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Speaker 1: from Numbers on the Board and his own pod teed

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Speaker 1: up is swinging by, well, not swinging by, he's jumping

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Speaker 1: on a zoom call zoom and by he's zoom and buy.

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Speaker 1: But we'll have some fun asking Pierre some questions as

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Speaker 1: we hit the quarter mark of the NBA Season's guy

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Speaker 1: always good for a take or two. Oh yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we want to do it, we

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Speaker 1: could try and stump him on players, what school they

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Speaker 1: went to? You know, he's like an encyclopedia with that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Oh he's very very okay. He's just one of those

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Speaker 1: people that knows ninety nine percent of where a guy

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Speaker 1: went to college.

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Speaker 3: We're going to find some freaks we could try.

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Speaker 1: I've seen him. I've seen him do some amazing ones.

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Speaker 3: It's like, whoa, that's wild.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, very excited for Pierre from Numbers on the board.

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Speaker 1: I've had Kenny on before, so let's have Pierre on.

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Speaker 1: That's tomorrow. We'll see you live at tenn am Eastern

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Speaker 1: here from the Classic Factory. Until then, Clipper Bros.

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Speaker 3: Heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 3: Love you guys, awesome.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. And remember when it comes to

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Speaker 2: the Christian and Scooby halftime show. According to our fans,

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Speaker 2: which is the only opinion that matters, Scooby is the

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Speaker 2: show eighty percent to twenty percent in our poll. JD

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Speaker 2: just drops a wow, unbelievable wow.

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Speaker 1: Embrace the eight people.