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Speaker 1: Ridiculous crime is a production of My Heart Radio, Elizabeth Dutton.

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Speaker 1: That is. That is very ridiculous. Now, how about another

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Speaker 1: big cash. The best idea he can come up with

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Speaker 1: is to kidnap a famous person's child and hold that

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Speaker 1: would you possibly? There's so many other celebrities with kids

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Speaker 1: a strange cast of characters. We've got Sam gun Connor,

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Speaker 1: We've got Jan from Jan and Dean. Yeah, and uh,

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Speaker 1: this one will surprise you. So you're ready to hear

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Speaker 1: about the dumb lucky kidnapping of Frank Sinatra Jr. Bring

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Speaker 1: it on. This is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd

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Speaker 1: and outrageous capers and cons. It's always murder free and

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Speaker 1: start of the nineteen sixties, and the coolest men in

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Speaker 1: rat Pack are, right? Who are they? Your producer Dave

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Speaker 1: and also Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin and Sammy Davis Jr.

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Speaker 1: We're a swell group, right, So they were in nineteen

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Speaker 1: their movie stars. They are singing all around the world.

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Speaker 1: They are carousing all the time in Vegas. They're living

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Speaker 1: the person that this guy decides to kidnap his son. Now,

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna get two dollars.

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Speaker 1: But then also maybe like FBI is gonna get involved

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Speaker 1: State Fair. Yeah, there's a part of a generational issue

417
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 1: there because you have to remember nineteen six three and

418
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 1: not a lot of people are like, you know what

419
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: I would love right now is a young Frank Sinatra.

420
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: So he kind of missed his window there. His father

421
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 1: really hit it though, But anyway, so he uh, Barry,

422
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 1: Pam and the gym, and uh, we got Jim Irwin.

423
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: It sounds like you're making so Joe John or John Wamsler,

424
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: John Irwin, Pam and Barry. They all go cruising over

425
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: to Arizona. But they decided to abort mission because Barry

426
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 1: he's like, you know, he's basically freaked out of about

427
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 1: the fact he touched the phone when he went to

428
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: like do somethings like touched the phone, I left I

429
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 1: left fingerprints. We gotta leave into like okay. So then

430
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: they drive back to l A and He's like, okay, guys,

431
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: I know that that probably didn't seem cool. How I

432
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 1: freaked out, But I trust me. I got a really

433
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 1: good plan. Like he basically thought he left the oven

434
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 1: on exactly and everyone was like, oh, man, I don't

435
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 1: know about this. He's like, look, we'll grab him here

436
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: in l A And they were like, Barry, I don't know, bro.

437
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 1: He's like, look, guys, try me. This is gonna happen.

438
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: It's gonna be amazing, it's gonna be magical. We're gonna

439
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: do this. How about this. Put on your best suit.

440
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 1: We're going to the Ambassador. And they're like what. It's like, yeah,

441
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: do it up, man. So they go and they put

442
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: on their best suit. They go down to the Ambassador

443
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:20,239
Speaker 1: Hotel where Frank Sinatra Jr. Is performing and they get

444
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: to watch him headline a like nightclub act, and sitting

445
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 1: a few tables away from them is Frank Sinatra Senior,

446
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 1: Dean Martin and Sammy did do you think that's that's

447
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: why people went to that show because they thought they

448
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: and that's why Frank Sinatra went to that show that

449
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 1: exact same reason. So anyway, everything now these guys are like, oh,

450
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 1: it's ordained. We're gonna do it. We're gonna take that

451
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 1: man's son, that was their seagulls son. They decided, right

452
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 1: they Frank Sinatra flies across this room and steals my

453
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: French fries. It's on. Remember I'm channeling Berry here and

454
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: he's not playing with eye to eye with him as

455
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: I'm amazing. So I remember. Their alibia is they're gonna

456
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: go to a u c l. A football game. So

457
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 1: they set the day they're gonna kidnap Barry on a Friday,

458
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: go to the u c l. A football game on

459
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: a Saturday. Everyone will see them do Like, how could

460
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: they kidnap him on Friday? If they're at the u

461
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: c l A game on Saturday, bro, nothing can happen exactly.

462
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: So that's their plan, and they set the day for Friday,

463
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: November twenty two. So plans get interrupted when JFK gets

464
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: assassinated that day in Dallas. Oh boys, So Frank's and

465
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: Not Your Junior Show gets canceled that night, and Barry's like,

466
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: damn it, man, this is not fair. This is just

467
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 1: not fair. So anyway, he's he's really upset and he's like,

468
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to give up on the dream.

469
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: He's like, I've I refuse. This is my moment, right.

470
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: So he's like, okay, I'm gonna have to go up

471
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: to uh Tahoe because he sees that's where Frank's not

472
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: your junior, is going to be performing in December. He's like, okay,

473
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: it's a perfect place to grab He's out there at

474
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: the Sierra Nevada Mountains. I can just go up because

475
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: all those little back roads. I can drive down to Reno,

476
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: I can drive down to San Francisco. There's no way

477
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: to stop me. I could go south in the ninety nine.

478
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: This is great. I got December in the in Tahoe. Okay. Yeah,

479
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: but he's thinking, you know, he's he's from you know,

480
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,239
Speaker 1: down south, so he doesn't really know that it's going

481
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: to be most likely snow. He's not thinking about that, right.

482
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: But he calls up his mom is actually it's like, hey,

483
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 1: John Irwin, you want to go up north to Tall

484
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: He's like, bro, I got a job. I gotta, I gotta.

485
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: I got work as a house painter. I don't need

486
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: your hundred dollars a week. He's like, okay, just don't

487
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 1: tell anyone I'm doing this okay, So then he goes

488
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: he grabs up his buddy Abaloni diver turn boxer Joe

489
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: Ams Learns like, hey, Joe, let's go north. And he's like, oh, man,

490
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: I can't. My wife's not about on me. I haven't

491
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: been able to collecting the abalone, haven't fought anybody. I

492
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: mean just things are tough, and I guess some work.

493
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, there's construction jobs. People are building casinos.

494
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: Let's go up to Tahoe. And he's like, all right, bet,

495
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: let's go. He's all, where your abalone short shorts? Exactly?

496
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: So they finally they drive north and they're going up

497
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: there and they get a Tahoe and all of a sudden,

498
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 1: Joe notices on the marquee at Harris Casino. Frank's out

499
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: your junior now headlining the whatever room. He's like, bro,

500
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: what's up with this? You just brought me here to

501
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: grab Frank Sinatri junior. You're not getting construction jobs. He's like, yeah,

502
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: that's true. We're doing it, man, we're doing it. So

503
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: I will be back in one moment to tell you

504
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: the mad cap grabbing of Frank Sinatra Jr. It's December

505
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: eight We're just weeks after the assassination of JFK. The

506
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: nation is morning, but Frank Sinatr Junior is like, the

507
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: show must go on. So he's out there at Harris

508
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: Casino getting ready to perform. Yeah, Frank Sinatra Junr. So

509
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 1: then we enter to the scene Barry and Joe Amsler

510
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: Abaloni diver turn boxer who they pull up into the

511
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: Sierra Nevadas and they decide, you know what, we're gonna

512
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: do this thing. After they have a little falling out

513
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: about the fact that Joe was lied to by Barry,

514
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: He's like, all right, I'm here though, Let's do this.

515
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: So they pull up in their sixty three Chevy and

516
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: Paula and uh, now, mind you, they have to like

517
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: get his routine down. So like for about a week

518
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: they just kind of shade Frank Sinatra Jr. They're like,

519
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: you tracking them. Now we've spent that week up. Now

520
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: we are at December eight, So for the last week

521
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: they've been there doing the most dangerous game on exactly

522
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: just tracking. Wanted to know all of his routines, where

523
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: is it anything he does right? So now they got

524
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: it down to they pull up in their sixty three

525
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: Chevy and Paula cut the lights and they go, Okay,

526
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: it's the moment, let's do this. He's like, you ready, Joe,

527
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't think him and he's like, oh,

528
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: here's an unloaded gun. Let's do this. Sorry, God, he

529
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 1: gives him unloaded gun. He doesn't trust Joe with bullets,

530
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: so then he has bullets in his gun. He's like, hey,

531
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: let's go in there. So Barry's like, you know what,

532
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: I got an idea. I'll be a delivery man. So

533
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: he takes a wine box, fills up a pine cones

534
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: he gathers from like just trees, and goes up and

535
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: knocks on the door. It's like Martha's Stewart. Yeah, He's like,

536
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: I gotta exactly here are the pine cones. They're decorative.

537
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: What if he opens the door and Frankie Jr. Is like,

538
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: I've been waiting on those and just like starts chewing

539
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: them up. It's that good. They didn't know. I've noticed

540
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: that he only eats pine pine cones and that's why

541
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: he's such a beautiful voice. So he goes up and

542
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: he knocks on the door and he said, hey, Joe,

543
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: be cool. Ready, Okay, knock, knock, and then Frank stunts

544
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: Junior rich kid did. He was like, come in. So

545
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: they push open the door and walk in with the

546
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 1: pine cones like delivery, sir, he said, set him down

547
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: over there. He sets him down and he's like, Joe,

548
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: come on in, and he tries to pull out his gun,

549
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: but he can't get his gun out of his pocket.

550
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: So the two of them were both fumbling. One guy's

551
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: got the unloaded gun, he's aiming it at them. One's

552
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: got his gun in his pocket, Barry. He finally gets

553
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: the gun out of pocket, forces it into Frank snutr

554
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: Junior's face and is like, all right, this is a robbery, right,

555
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: Because he's decided he doesn't want it to think it's

556
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: a kidnapping, so he doesn't tell him it's a kidnapping.

557
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: He's like, don't make any noise and nobody will get hurt.

558
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: And he just keeps repeating this over and over again,

559
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: and Junior is like, okay, now, mind you. I left

560
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: that a key detail. When they burst into the room,

561
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: Franks and not your junior and his trumpet player, this

562
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: guy Fast. They're hanging out in their underwear eating fried

563
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: chicken as you do, you know, just before the show,

564
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: trying to Yeah with the trumpet player eating some fried chicken.

565
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: That sounds lovely, right, So they're just sitting there now

566
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: and their underwear eating fried chicken with guns in their faces.

567
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: They just continue eating. They do. He literally continues. He

568
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: takes a bite of thigh. He's like, I'm what's going on, man?

569
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: That's incredible. So then he's like, give us some money,

570
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: and he's like, now he's made the terrible mistake of

571
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: trying to rob musicians. The trumpet players like, bro, I

572
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: don't got anything. Good luck. You don't want to know why.

573
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: So he's like, I got twenty bucks. Frank's run was

574
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: like here, I got twenty bucks. And the reason why

575
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: they decided to rob him is because Barry has spent

576
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: up all their money. They don't have gas money to

577
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: make it back to l A. They need this money.

578
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: Once they get done robbing him, then they go, okay,

579
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: now back to kidnapping. Okay, this is side quest. It's amazing.

580
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: So they tell the dude Foster chumpet player, look, you're

581
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: gonna stay here. Bro, We're gonna tie you up ten

582
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: minutes after we leave. You can go tell people that

583
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: we took Frank Sinatra Junr. He's like to tie him

584
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: up with a minute. So that happens after ten minutes,

585
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: and they just wanted to head start so and they

586
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: thought he's a man of dignity and she's not going

587
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: to get caught because he's not going to get caught. Exactly.

588
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: This is all part of the plan. I don't know

589
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: why you have questions. So they shuffle Frank Sinatra Junior

590
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: out of the room. They go and they take him

591
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 1: down to the sixty three Chevy and Paula toss him

592
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: in back, blindfold him. They get ready to go and

593
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, I forgot the gun. Barry. He has

594
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: to go back upstairs and fetch his gun. And he

595
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: sees that Foster is like trying to get free to

596
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: like bro I thought I told you. He's like, okay, look,

597
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: just give me five minutes. And he was like, okay,

598
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: I'll give you five minutes. Like cool. So then he

599
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: leaves exactly. So then they go run back downstairs and

600
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: he's like, oh cool. And they're get in the car

601
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: and Joe is not taken off. Joe's still in the

602
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: car sitting there. Joe's like man, we got really got

603
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: to get out of here. So they're like, oh cool,

604
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, Frank sinatr Jr. Be cool, bro,

605
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: just just be cool. And he's like, what's going on.

606
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: You guys robbed me and your kid, but what's really

607
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: going on. It's like, so this is a quote from

608
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: Barry and I quote. We're in the car maybe three

609
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: or four minutes. I say, Frank, what we should do

610
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: is make you look like you're drunk. So here, take

611
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: these sleeping pills and no be tall to be precise,

612
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: take a swig of this whiskey. And Frank he was

613
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: very cooperative. I love this for so many reasons. One

614
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: what we should do is kidnappers. Kidnappy is making you

615
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: look drunk like he's gonna be like, oh yeah, tots

616
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: like that. And then they're like, here, take these take

617
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: these pills in some whiskey. He's like, don't got as exactly,

618
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: you know. The Frank's Latr Jr. Did have to be

619
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: kind of like convinced because they told him, look, we

620
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: got these guns and if anything happens, if cops show up,

621
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: there'll be gunfire and you might get shot by the cops.

622
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: We don't want that to happen. He's like, that's true,

623
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: give me the booze, right, But if I'm like kidnapped

624
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: and shoved in the back of a really cool looking

625
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: sixties three, well, I imagine brand new. They shoved me

626
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: in there, and they've got guns in my face. I'm

627
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: going to say, can I have those pills in that whiskey?

628
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: Because I just want to check out on this one

629
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: right now. That's what Joe is doing kill myself. But

630
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, I, you know, lights out London. I want

631
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: to go to sleep. I don't want to see this,

632
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: and then you can deal with my limp body and

633
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: you try and move me around. Just pour me in

634
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: the footwell and I'll be fine. Yeah, So did Joe

635
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: hit up the pills and whiskey. Yeah, Joe and Frank

636
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: were passing back to the one at the bottle because

637
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: they're both little tents right now right there, just not

638
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: He's not sure this is gonna go well, this is amazing,

639
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: So Foster trumpet player works himself free. He runs down

640
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: to the manager. He's like, look, they grab Frank's not

641
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: your junior managers, Like what he's gonna get killed? He's

642
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: still eating a piece of chicken. He like his teeth.

643
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm killing you just one second. This is

644
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: some good chicken. So anyway, the manager calls the you know,

645
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: the sheriff. The Sheriff's like, what, I'm gonna get killed

646
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: by Frank Sinatras. Everyone's afraid to get killed by Frank Sinatra.

647
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: So they shut down the roads, they shut down the freeway.

648
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: He has all these deputies going like block off any exits,

649
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: and they do it fast enough. He's like, I want

650
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: you boys out there because I don't think they got

651
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: out of the out of this area. There's no way.

652
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: It's only been like five ten minutes. So he sends

653
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: his guys out with sawed off shotguns and pistols into

654
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: the dark and cold and goes go find me the

655
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: kid nappers of Frank Sinatra Jr. And Uh. The sheriff

656
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: is right about one thing. They have not left the area.

657
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: What do they all take? Pills and berries? Like you

658
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: know what, man, I told you, I got the plan.

659
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: I thought of everything. He says, I just need to

660
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: put these snow chains on. God he does, but he

661
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: gets the snow chains on. They're driving along and they're

662
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: like he notices in the distance, these headlights, and he's like, oh,

663
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: that's a police roadblocks. He pulls over. He's like, I

664
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: just need the time to think. Guys, I didn't think

665
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: about this part. And they're like, okay, that's cool. Cool.

666
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: He's like, okay, here's my plan. The cops think that

667
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: there are three people because one's one is Frank Sinatra

668
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: and the two are the kidnappers, so they're looking for

669
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: a car with three people. Joe, you need to get out.

670
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: It was like, ok ok okay. Now meanwhile, it's a

671
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: blizzard has started to fall, the snow has gone. There's

672
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: like a light snow at first, and now it's starting

673
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: to build. Now we're getting actual blizzard conditions. And he's like, Joe,

674
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: run out into the blizzard. Joe is in his abalone

675
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: hunting out. He's like barefoot, short and and a good

676
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: whiskey drunk at this and he's slurring his speech. So

677
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: he's like, okay, he runs onto into the knife, right.

678
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: So then Barry gets out and starts working on on

679
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: the car tire chains, and then these cops pull up.

680
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: They're like hey there. He's like, what's going on? Officer

681
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: and cops were like, Amana, what are you doing. He's like, oh,

682
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: just fix him a change card. And I was like, oh, yeah,

683
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: we're just out looking for some people. And then he's

684
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: like cool. And the cops get back in their patrol

685
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: card and drive down the road, just out looking for

686
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: some people. And he was like, yeah, you're not it. Apparently,

687
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: so Barry, he's like hey, Frank, junr nice job, but

688
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: playing along like I'm just drool that exactly. He's soiled himself.

689
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: He's like, okay, you know, we need to get out

690
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: of here. And so Frank's juniors like, well, what about Joe?

691
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: And he's like okay, fine, wait, Frank's not tenors writing

692
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: about the kidnapper. He's like, we need to go save Joe.

693
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: He's like okay, fine. Frank calmed down his drug and

694
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: induced haze. He thinks of Joe. So he gets out.

695
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: He's like oh screaming and shouting into the darkness and

696
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: he's like hey, and then Joe comes running back. She

697
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: was like, oh, man, I ran into a fence post.

698
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: I knocked myself out for a while. Stop it. Yeah,

699
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: ran into a fence post, knocked himself out, and then

700
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: he comes to and then runs back when hears his

701
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: name being shouted into the darkness. So then this is exactly.

702
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: So then he gets backed. He's like, look, we got

703
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: the same problem though, Joe. You can't be here. You

704
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: got to be in the trunk. He's like, but I'm

705
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: so cool, and he's like, just get in the trunk, Joe.

706
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, So Joe gets trunk. Now they're

707
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: gonna drive down to a roadblock. And then he's like, hey, officers,

708
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: and this cops is like pull that. The shot goes.

709
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: You get out of that car. Because he doesn't know that.

710
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: He he just sees a car coming at him and

711
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: he's like they decided this must be the kidnappers. And

712
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: then and you know, Barry's like, hey man, cool down.

713
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what the problem is. We already got searched.

714
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: And the other cops like, oh, yeah, I searched them,

715
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. He's like, I don't know about that.

716
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,479
Speaker 1: He's like, no, I want to care. I'm gonna search

717
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: you again. He's like you can't do that, man. He's

718
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: like no. Other cops like it's cool man. He's like,

719
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: all right, let them go. What is going on? People?

720
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: Just tell someone something and it becomes true exactly. That's

721
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: how it works. Now they're off to l A and uh,

722
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, they get into the dark of the night

723
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: as the blizzard is falling. They turn on the radio

724
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: and they hear Frank Sinatra junr it's been kidnapped. And

725
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,439
Speaker 1: the news is blaring and he's like, wait, you guys

726
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: kidnap me, man, I thought we were just on a

727
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: road trip. He doesn't quite understand what's happening to him, right,

728
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: So then Frank Sinatra has to listen to his dad

729
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 1: because they're playing Frank Sinatra music because it sounds been kidnapped.

730
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: So then just listen to Frank Sinatra tunes that they

731
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: drive south in California and they've gotten away with it.

732
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: So what comes next, I'll tell you after this very

733
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: very short break. So what comes next, Well, for these

734
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: three young men, it's basically a road trip south. I

735
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: mean they're having some fun. They're chucking down some pills

736
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: or drinking some booze or listen to Sinatra tunes. It's

737
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 1: basically like that scene from Swingers. It's just like all right.

738
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: So then they get back to l A and reality

739
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: finally sets in for poor Frank Sinatra Jr. He's like,

740
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: wait a minute. You guys totally to me, like out,

741
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: like I have a show to play, and like this

742
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: is messed up. Man. They're like, okay, yes, we kidnapped you.

743
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: What's your dad's numbers? We can get some money for you.

744
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: And he's like, I'm not telling you my dad's number.

745
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: They're like, no, you have to and he's like, I'm

746
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: not doing it, and they're like, I didn't think about

747
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: this part of the plan, so I have no answer.

748
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: So he's like Joe hit him. He's like, I'm not

749
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: hit and he's ever, buddy, man, I'm not gonna mess

750
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 1: you up. Yeah, we're cool, and so they're actually really

751
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: getting tight to do him right, Yeah, exactly. So Frankine

752
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, I'm a tough guy. Ain't gonna tell

753
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: you my dad's number. They're like, god damn wait, doesn't

754
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: need know, Nancy? Why can you be? Like well, Frank

755
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: was around all right? So luckily he's like, well, I've

756
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: already had some bad news, so I got some time

757
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: to kill. I need to go back up to because

758
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: I didn't pay off the hotel bill. You can't just

759
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: go ahead and not pay it. Well, no, then they'll

760
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: know it's him. He's worried, right, He's like, they'll have

761
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: the idea that he has this hotel that's never build anyway. Well,

762
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: the way things are working, call him and tell him

763
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 1: you paid it. One he calls Dean Torrance and he's like, Dean,

764
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: I need five hundred dollars more because I got Frank

765
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: SINATR Junior Downhill. He's like, whoa, whoa wait, you did it.

766
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: He's like yeah. It's like, okay, you need to stop

767
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: calling me, right man. So but he's like, when here's

768
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: five hun dollars, never call me again. He's like, thanks,

769
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: I needed the money. And he drives back up to Tahoe,

770
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: pays off his hotel bill, and he takes Pam, his

771
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: rich girlfriend, with him. She actually ends up paying most

772
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: of the hotel bill. He needs the five hut of

773
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: dollars so he can pay gas and not have to

774
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: ask Pam for money for gas. I guess. They actually

775
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: spend the day skiing after they pay off the hotel bill,

776
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: and then then they drive back down south. Meanwhile, once

777
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: he's back in l A, he discovers Barry, discovers that

778
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: Joe and Frank Jr. Have gotten real tight, and they're

779
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: they're kind of like, basically they don't want to go

780
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 1: through with it anymore. And he's like, what the hell, man,

781
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: It's like, you guys, okay, look so he got he

782
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: got him call in the outside ringer again. He calls

783
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: his mom's ex boyfriend. He's like, John Irwin, I need

784
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: you to come in and be tough for me. He's like, okay.

785
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: So the old World two veteran comes in. They're like, look,

786
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: I found out Frank how to get ahold of Frank Sinatra.

787
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: He's got this casino, this hotel and reno he's staying

788
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: at and everybody's been talking about on the news. I'm

789
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: just gonna call there. And then you asked to talk

790
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: to Franks. Did we have the cal Neva? Was that his?

791
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: He owned the Colniva with Sam Gi and Conum. That's right.

792
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: He was like basically the front person for it. And

793
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: so yes, good job, darnal. They all, yeah, you see

794
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: that in The Godfather they have the whole scene up

795
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: and tild that's kind of like a nod to the Caliva.

796
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: So now Barry's like, okay, I can't really count on Joe,

797
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 1: but at least he'll hopefully keep franksin out to junor

798
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: safe in the hideout while John Irwin and I go

799
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: take care of this. Come on Mama's X. And so

800
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: they go and they're like, okay, let's call Frank sr.

801
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: They call up the hotel and Frank Stinior was like, okay,

802
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: these are the kidnappers. Let me hear from him right,

803
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: and he's like okay, boom, hey Frank, we got your boy.

804
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: And they're like what. Frank's freaks out. He's like, I'll

805
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: give you a million dollars from from my son. And

806
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, just a second, friend, you're geting

807
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 1: ahead of yourself. We're gonna call you at the Chevron station.

808
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: And they give him an address. They go go there,

809
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: we'll call you in a couple of minutes and he's

810
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: like okay, so then hang up. So then Frank, you

811
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: know you're going an FBI agent drive off to the

812
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: Chevron station. Meanwhile, John Irwin calls the Chevron station. He's like, hey,

813
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra. There the guy working in the gas stations like,

814
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: uh no, hangs up, Frank. So John Earwin calls back, Hey,

815
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra, there this guy at the gas stations like

816
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: what the hell pal. He's like, listen, pal. Mr Sinatra

817
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: is not in the habit of taking calls at this

818
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: chevron station. Hangs up. Then a car pulls up. Outsteps

819
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra, the dude from the Chevron stations like what.

820
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: He's like, Hey, I'm Frank Sinatra. Have I had any calls?

821
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: Can you imagine that moment for that too, He's like,

822
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: gets called one, called too, called three just Frank and

823
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: I it's Frank Sinatra. There's Frank Santra there. Hey, I'm

824
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra and he calls Oh my god. So you

825
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: know that guy, he's been getting free drinks for life

826
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: on that anyway, Irwin calls again. Frank gets this call

827
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, I'm Frank Sinatra. He's like, thank goodness.

828
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: And so then now he's like, Frank's like, look, I'll

829
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: give you a million dollars with my boy. He's like,

830
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: uh no, Barry only wants two dollars. So they low

831
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: ball Frank Sinatra and it has for two two thousand

832
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: dollars according to their plan. He goes, here's the deal.

833
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: You know, you get an FBI courrier to go to

834
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: a phone pay phone in l A and then we'll

835
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: call that pay phone and tell him to go on

836
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: to another payphone, and then we'll call that pay phone,

837
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: and then we'll go to another pay phonel we'll call

838
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: that pay phone, and we'll keep doing that till we

839
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: decide that you can go to the right drop and

840
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 1: he's like okay, So then they do this. They set

841
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: it up this drop and on December eleven, the money

842
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: is left by the FBI at a drop spot on

843
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 1: Sunset Boulevard. Joe Amsler and Barrier driving around and looking

844
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: for the drop spot, they see the money is there

845
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: between two school buses in a black bag, just like

846
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: they asked. He goes, Joe get out, grab the money.

847
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: Joe gets out, he sees something doesn't feel right. Joe

848
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: just runs away, just takes off the wood exactly. Barry's like, man,

849
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: so now he drives. When he drives around the block,

850
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: he finds parking. He gets out, he goes to get

851
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: the money. He was like, you know what, I saw

852
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: these like ice cream trucks and like all these cabs.

853
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: Was like, those guys are the FBI. I don't care.

854
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm getting the money. He always gets so money anyway,

855
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: drives away, right, he gets away with it. Meanwhile, John

856
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 1: Irwin's like, I've had it, I'm done with this. So

857
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: he's like Frank getting the car. He calls Frank Senior.

858
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: He's like, look, i'm taking your boy. I'm giving him

859
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: back to you. You'll find him on this overpass over

860
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: the four or five freeway and he's like click, hangs up.

861
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: It's like Frank Junior getting a car. We're go on.

862
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: He cos he drives. He drops Frank Junior off on

863
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: the overpass over the four or five. He's like get out.

864
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: It's like okay, and he just starts from you know,

865
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: running off on his own. Meanwhile, Frank Senior is looking

866
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: for him, driving around, but Frank Junior doesn't know to

867
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: wait there, so he runs to bel Air and a

868
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: security guard sees Him's like hey, Frank Junior. And he

869
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: tried to get him past all the reporters and and

870
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: he takes them all the way to his house. The

871
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: family rejoices everything is golden now so far, all is good.

872
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: Everything has worked. The press, which has been after Frank

873
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: Sinatra Senior for being mob affiliated, also for like you know,

874
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: basically there's a whole issue about the Kennedy's basically brobby

875
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: Bobby Kennedy was going after him for the mob stuff,

876
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 1: and so he was looking bad about this. Now he's

877
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: this forefather and also he worked with the FBI. S

878
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: fbis that we're tight with Frank. It's cool. He let

879
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: us at the house. Yeah, So now all of a sudden,

880
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: all those problems go away. So he's actually kind of

881
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: been done a solid by Barry. Barry's like, look, I

882
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: just like God said, everybody wins. So he's like convinced

883
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: everything's cold, and he's like, okay, let's go celebrate. So

884
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: Barry and Joe go back to the hide out. They

885
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: take all the money they got, they throw it on

886
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: like the ground and around. I quote literally we all

887
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: we laid all the money out, danced on it, lit

888
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: cigarettes with it, did all the things we've seen in

889
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: the movies. We had a money war, throwing wads of

890
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: bills at each other. I think I figured out why

891
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: Barry's business acumen wasn't so hot. I think he let

892
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: the money on fire to light cigarettes when yeah, you've

893
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: ever done that, you don't you know cigarettes anyway? And

894
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: I'm not a moron steal, like get money, then light

895
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: it on fire. It's very much like, you know, a

896
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: cartel dream I think some young boys have. Anyway, John

897
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: Irwin's like, look, I'm out. I'm so done with you guys.

898
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: So he's like, I'm forty two, I'm a navy vet.

899
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: I ain't got time for this. So he's like, I'm

900
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: going to New Orleans and I'm gonna go be safe

901
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: and happy there. So he goes like, first, I gotta

902
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: go see down my boy, my my brother down in

903
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: San Diego. So he pops down to San Diego. He's like, hey,

904
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: my brother, I'm I'm leaving the area. We gotta go

905
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: to New Orleans. But first I want to tell you

906
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: a little secret, a little funny story, what your brother

907
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: has been up to. I grabbed Frank Sinatra Junior. I

908
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: did it me and my friends. I got all this

909
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 1: money and that wild is brothers like, are you kidding me? Well,

910
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: you can't do that. Frank Sinatra's boy, He's like, okay, well,

911
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: I'm i'm tired. Let me just take a nap and

912
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: I'll get out of your hair. And he's like okay.

913
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 1: So he lays down to go to sleep. His brother

914
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: immediately calls the cops. The cops show up and arrest him.

915
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: So his brother has a higher allegiance to Frank's exactly,

916
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: his brother snitches on him. He's like, look, I gotta

917
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: look out for Frank. So then now we got Joe

918
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: Joe Amsler. He gets popped while he's like playing chess

919
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: weight at a friend's house. He's playing chess, and then

920
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: Barry eventually gets arrested at his girlfriend's place. So Pam.

921
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: They all have dear old Pam. So they all now

922
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: have to o to court cases. The trials last for

923
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: about four weeks. Barry refuses to plead guilty by insanity

924
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: because he's like, no, I'm I meant to do this,

925
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: God told me to do it. I don't know what

926
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 1: people are talking about. And so his lawyers put forward

927
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: this other whack theory that is Frank Jr. This is

928
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: a hoax. He arranged this, he was he was in

929
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: on it, and they put this out and they say

930
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: this before the press, which is messed up because now

931
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: for the rest of his life. Frank. Yeah, it is

932
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: crazy smart, but it doesn't get the guys off. They

933
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: go down for seventy five years each. Oh yeah, but

934
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: the one dude thing is I have to get Frank

935
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: Junior credit. When he goes up on the witness stand,

936
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: he says the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but

937
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,479
Speaker 1: the truth. He's even admits that I hope you guys

938
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: get away with This is one of the quotes he

939
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 1: admits to in court. So that's part of the reason

940
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: why he kind of he kind of messes himself up

941
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: because he says that before the hoax gets put forward anyway,

942
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: he gets burned. The three guys all get sentence to

943
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: seventy five years plus life for Amsler and Um Barry

944
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: Irwin only gets seventy five years anyway. Eventually the people

945
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: like that's cruel, unusual, ridiculous. It gets talked down to

946
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: three and a half years for Amsler and Irwin, four

947
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: and a half years for Berry, cut from a half years.

948
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: Berry is out by three. He's got a fortune of

949
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: seventeen million dollars. Remember he was good at business. Yeah,

950
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: he just needed that two dollars he could get back

951
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: on top. It sounds like Barry was just going through

952
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: a time. He was spinning out a little bit, real

953
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: rough time for him. Anyway, I feel like we've all

954
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: known a berry. I think I've known a few berries. Yeah,

955
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: I just try not to be a berry. Just don't

956
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: be a berry. So eventually he opens a substance abuse

957
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: clinic for other addicts to get clean. He wants to

958
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: put his fortune to good use. In the late nineties, though, interestingly,

959
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: Barry and Frank Sinatra Junior used to see each other

960
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills social like events like you know, fundraisers and

961
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: so forth, and they would se each other across the room.

962
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: They never talked, they would just yeah, they would. They'd

963
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: give each other a nod and like a friendly like

964
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 1: do you remember that trip? So Frank Sinatra he died

965
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: in At his funeral, his youngest daughter Tina, she slipped

966
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: ten dimes into his pocket because she knew that her

967
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: dad had always carried ten dimes on him at all times.

968
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: This was like something that really meant something to her,

969
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: and she chalked it up to the kidnapping and a quote,

970
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: Tina Sinatra, I think it came from Frankie's kidnap and

971
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: maybe before he never wanted to get caught, not able

972
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: to make a phone call, he always carried ten dimes. Nice,

973
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: I just like that as a father. Yeah, And I

974
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 1: mean he's Frank Sinatra. He could just say to someone

975
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: call yeah, hey, big Jilly, get that phone. Yeah. You

976
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 1: don't even need a pay phone. You just walk into

977
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: any establishment or someone's home. Hey, I'm Frank. Frank Sinatra

978
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: kicks in your front door like I need to make

979
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: a phone call. You're like, yes, Mr Sinatra, can I

980
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 1: get you anything? Else? You start mixing drinks, panicking or

981
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: anything for your two hood friends. You're like hiding all

982
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: your abalone hunting equipment. Cool. Cool? So what's a ridiculous

983
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: takeaway from this one? Um? I think that again, everybody

984
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: knows a berry like some of the ridiculous stuff that

985
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: he pulls off and his I'm really stuck on the

986
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: I'll give you a million dollars now you know I need.

987
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: All I need is to forty. Yeah that's the number

988
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: I wanted. I'm going to low By. Your friend Lord

989
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: told me this is a business deal. I'm a businessman.

990
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: I mean, why wouldn't you just be like, yeah, that'll work.

991
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,959
Speaker 1: Did he feel like maybe if he was honest about

992
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: how much he needed that all he needed? He didn't

993
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: want anymore. He wanted to keep to his deal, so

994
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: he's not really greedy. And the mission from God, yeah

995
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: he was in Seagulls. My ridiculous takeaway is wasn't life

996
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: wild before cell phones? Oh yeah, so much of this

997
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: could be settled with. I love the screaming into the

998
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: Chevron station thing, like, yeah, that's a totally Joe almost

999
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: dying in a blizzard just because they don't have cellphones. Joe,

1000
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: I feel like we're two kids talking about a movie

1001
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: and all our favorite scenes. But Joe running into a

1002
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: fence post is the chef's kiss on this one, especially

1003
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: because in my mind he's dressed like he's abalone diving

1004
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: and he's in the snow. So I like that a lot.

1005
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, Joe, Joe, just as his own thing is amazing.

1006
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: Joe is just a spectacular being. So we all know

1007
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,479
Speaker 1: a berry, don't be a berry. Don't be a berry.

1008
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: Try to be a Joe, but not a hundred percent,

1009
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: because like, if you're going to run into the woods,

1010
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: don't run into a fence post. I also like the

1011
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: Joe be friends Frank Sinatra Jr. They're just like doing drugs. Oh,

1012
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: they were like chilling out. When he gets back to

1013
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: the hideout. They've worked out like whole like dances and

1014
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: the like. They're like it's like a thing they had,

1015
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 1: like a dance routine. And before we start this again,

1016
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: watch what we came up with, like one to three exactly.

1017
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,840
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1018
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,640
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