WEBVTT - The Trans Genocide: A Seige And A Counter Attack 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:07.200 Welcome to Dick It Happened Here, a podcast about the 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:11.280 transgenocide because it keeps happening, and so we keep having 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:15.200 new episodes about it because it just gets worse. Yeah, 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:17.520 I'm Mia Wong with me as James. 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:21.720 I'm I'm excited to hear more about what people are 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:24.919 doing to trans people in different parts of this country. 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:28.920 Yeah. The answer is not good, so nice things. Okay. 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:31.160 At about five am this morning, I was watching a 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:34.040 video from last year, and you know, they had this 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:36.480 lie about how like there's been one hundred anti trans 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:40.960 bills in twenty twenty two alone, and like, oh oh boy, 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:44.120 that is a that is a quaint figure from a 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:48.480 more civilized age. We are three months into twenty twenty 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:52.040 and there's been five hundred anti trans bills across the country. 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:55.400 That was a Freudian slip. We have three years into 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:57.040 twenty twenty, my friend. 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:02.920 Oh god, yeah, you're twenty three that one, which I 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.920 guess it won't work out like this, but technically, speaking 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:09.720 of this pace continues, we're on track for what Yeah, 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:11.800 we're on track for I think two thousand this year, 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:13.479 which would be great. 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:17.960 Heyce, Yeah, it's good. Well, we'll be rebooting Mansona by November. 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:20.839 Now, most of these bills, have we've talked about before, 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.320 are going to fail, but a lot of them haven't. 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:26.160 And the other sort of aspect of this that I 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:29.039 think it's been less reported on but is also extremely important, 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:32.160 is that, Okay, so if you want to do anti 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:35.480 trans bullshit, you have like three options. Basically, you have 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.000 you try to get a bill through the legislature, You 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:42.840 have the governor doing a mandate or something, and then 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:47.400 you have the attorney general doing some bullshit. And our 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:50.440 first story from the front lines of the worst shit 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:54.520 that's happening is from Missouri, where Missouri's Attorney General Andrew 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:59.120 Bailey has issued a quote emergency rule that claims that 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:03.000 because gender care is quote experimental, it's already banned by 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:10.440 state law, which is nonsense, but it gets worse. 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:12.799 I don't know if it's worth like addressing this shit 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:14.920 head on because it's such so clearly bullshit. But like, 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.840 we have more than a century of people seeving gender 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:19.320 firming care and auditioning. 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:21.720 It's it's like people. 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:25.400 People, television is more experimental than gender refirming care. Yeah, 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:28.440 like this stuff like aeroplanes. 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:31.800 Are more experiment This stuff predates the Nazis like, it's 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:33.360 like it's old. 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:36.160 Yeah, it definitely predates passenger flight. 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:39.120 Yeah, like so okay, I mean that there's like a 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.720 standard turf argument though, is that it's like, oh, it's experimental. 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.119 It's like now it's not. Okay, So these rules are 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:49.040 oh boy, okay, here's from so I think it was 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:52.480 Saint Louis. Yeah, the city government of State Lewis put 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:54.280 out a thing about it that was basically like, this 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:59.000 is bullshit. They said, quote the Aterney General's Emergency Regulations 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:03.840 institute extremely strictions that require one medically documented gender just 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:07.680 for you for three years, to at least fifteen consecutive 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:11.440 therapy sessions over eighteen months, and three that all mental 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:15.000 health conditions are treated and resolved prior to gaining access 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:19.840 to gender affirming care. There's also this section that is 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.760 I'm just gonna read it. I don't have any words, 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:26.280 I don't have any analysis for this, so it's saying 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:29.600 like you can't have care. That quote fails with respect 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:31.760 to a patient who is a minor, to ensure that 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:35.760 the patient has received a comprehensive screening at least annually 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:40.160 for social media addiction or compulsion and has not for 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.240 at least six months prior to the beginning of any 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:45.480 intervention suffered from social media addiction or compulsion. 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:53.040 So wow, yeah. Now, so the good news is that. 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:55.360 This role was supposed to go into effects, like before 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.480 this episode is recorded. It was instantly. There are a 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:01.320 bunch of lawsuits. It's been blocked by a judge until 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:06.560 May fifteenth, so hopefully the judge will be like, this 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.600 is obviously illegal, not holding out hope for that. This 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:14.360 is probably the worst law in the books anywhere in 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:17.640 the country right now. Maybe will also I'll show you 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:21.440 the other really bad one and what we'll see. But okay, 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.120 so the notable thing about this law is that this 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.600 is not just a band from minors. This is for everyone. 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.040 And you know, there's lots of atrocious stuff in here, 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.240 right Like if you have autism, for example, and there's 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:34.800 a bit every thing about screening for autism. If you 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:39.960 have autism, you cannot transition, Jesus, and you know, and 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:41.760 then you know they're part of the right. Even if 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.120 you're like a ninety nine year old on your fucking deathbed, 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:47.480 you can't transition unless you feel fill all of these 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:51.560 bullshit requirements. There's this like there's a social media compulsion thing, 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:54.280 which is this sort of bizarre like social contagient bullshit 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:55.960 that these people have been spreading for a long. 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.400 Time, especially given like where the fuck do we think 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.640 their trans panic comes from? It's because they logged onto 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.719 Facebook and you're racist. Uncle Joey had posted to think 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.600 about like how Twitter is transing his niece's gender. 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:10.440 Yeah, and you know, and it's like all of this 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:14.960 stuff is very like we're getting into we're getting into 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:16.880 the part of this where it's just sort of like 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:23.480 they're like copying and pasting turf rants into like laws. Yeah. 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.960 The mental health care thing is like just awful. 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:27.640 You know. 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:29.200 For example, if you have depression, one of the reasons 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:31.520 you might have depression if your trans is because you 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:33.720 have dysphoria. Yeah, so you're caught in this loop or 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:35.159 if you try to get care for the depression, you 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:38.520 can't get like treatment for the dysphoria. What if you 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:39.960 get treating for the dysphoria, you can't get it for 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:41.240 the depressions. 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:45.840 Right, Yeah, you're totally alienated from getting care. And like 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:49.720 I'm sure living in a fucking state which is trying 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:53.479 with surgical precision to force you to pick which way 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:57.800 you want to be suffering. It's not like great for 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:00.760 your mental health to be Like being a trans person 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:02.800 in Missouri would be pretty hard, given that the state 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:06.039 is its powers to stop you getting anything out of care. 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.240 And you know, I mean everything that's about this is 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:13.719 like the therapy requirement, the fifteen therapy things over eighteen months, 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.760 it's just effectively a ban because you know, do you 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:18.760 know how fucking hard it is to get an appointment 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.560 with a gender therapist, Like it is so like there 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:26.320 are we are talking about something where there are optimistically 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:31.520 dozens of these people for an entire state. It is fucked. 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:37.080 It is so bad even in states where it's legal. Right, 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:38.839 This is this is sort of the grim joke of 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:40.919 like the anti trans canard that like it's too easy 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:42.680 for kids to get gender firmin care and they're giving 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.320 your hormones like candy. It's like, no, no, it's really 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.080 even in states where it's legal to get gender firmin care, 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:52.159 it's hard as fuck, takes forever and is expensive, and 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.279 you know, given how through few therapists there are and 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:56.360 how hard it is to clear these requirements the Missouri 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:58.920 rule is just effectively a ban on gender fermin care 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:03.039 for everyone. Now it's been stayed for now, but this 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:08.640 is really bad. People are fleeing the state. We're going 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:14.600 to talk more about trans refugees yeah later, but you know, 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:17.160 basically every state that has passed one of these laws 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:20.040 has refugees already. I know, I personally know multiple people 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:26.880 who fled multiple states. Yeah, it's really fucking bad. It's 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:32.960 also you know, I mean, like it is genuinely important 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:34.560 to make sure that people get supported and to make 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.280 sure people are way out. It's also not a solution 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:39.600 because there's just going to be new trans kids born 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:40.760 into these states. 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:44.320 So yeah, yeah, we can't fix it by the existing 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:48.880 trans people leaving. And like obviously there's people have their 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:50.640 friends in their family and their community there. Like we 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:52.720 didn't fix it by them getting something completely different. 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.000 Yeah, so now we're gonna move to the next state 0:07:55.000 --> 0:08:00.280 where shit's happening that this one I don't know that's 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:06.560 happening in Kansas is also like, okay, relative to the 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:08.600 amount of media attention it's gotten, this is the worst 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:14.200 thing that's happening in absolute terms, It's unbelievably bad. Okay. 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.160 So there's a bill in Kansas that people are calling 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:19.200 a bathroom bill, and they're calling it that because bathroom 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:20.880 bill is the terminology that they have. This is not 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:24.240 a bathroom bill. We need to be very clear about this. 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:28.360 This is way, way, way, way fucking worse than a 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:32.840 bathroom bill. So this is a bill that what it 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.840 does is in the eyes of the state, it legally 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:40.000 assigns you a gender by defining male and female in 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.720 all in all state laws as and I'm going to 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:46.000 let us legislature take it from here. Women are those 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:50.360 who quote biologically whose biological reproductive system is developed to 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:56.199 produce OVA, and men are those quote whose biological reproductive 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.120 system is developed to fertilize the OVA of a female. 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:03.560 Which y yeah, Hey Radfams, I hope you're fucking happy. 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:05.959 Now you've gotten the state to legally define your gender 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.600 as based on your reproductive capacity. 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:13.120 Yeah, We've great job. Feed run of the fucking what's 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:14.600 the thing where they will wear the bonnets? 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:16.280 Yeah? 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:20.320 Yeah? And here here's it just intersects people kind of exist. 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:24.640 You're fucking it's worse. Okay, So again, here here's kas NT, 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:28.640 which is a news outlet in Kansas. In addition to restrooms, 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:32.800 the legislation would define words like woman, man, mother, and 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:36.920 father in areas like athletics, prisons or other detention facilities, 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:42.600 domestic violence centers, rape crisis centers, locker rooms, and quotes 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:46.440 other areas where biology, safety, or privacy are implicated that 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:48.360 could result in separate accommodations. 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:50.800 Jesus Christ. 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:53.960 Yeah, so, uh supposedly this is going to be on 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:57.000 a case by case basis, but you know, like this 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.440 is going to lead to trans women being put in 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.079 bends prison where they will be raped and almost certain 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:05.080 like almost certainly will be raped, quite possibly will be 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:08.960 killed because that happens all the time. Uh, you know 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:12.200 this is i mean, like kicking trans women out of 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:16.400 domestic violence centers and rape crisis centers when you know, 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:18.679 and this is gonna happen, and you know, similar like 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.840 bullshit's gonna happen to trans men and also to non 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:25.480 binary people who all of whom are abused and assaulted 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:30.280 at rates that are fucking indescribable. I mean, there is 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.640 also the bathroom bill shit, and like the worst version 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.920 of bathroom billshit we've ever seen. And you know, but 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.120 also so this is not the only one of these bills. 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:42.240 That's we'll talk about the other one in Montana in 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:46.040 a little bit. But because the Kansas Republicans are somehow 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.560 even more cretnius than their colleagues in Montana, they have 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.440 written the bill in such a way that, in the 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:55.000 words of Pink News, quote definitions outlined in the bill 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.520 also state that a female a female is a person 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:01.240 who produces ova, in other words, eggs meeting cis. Women 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.120 who are infertile and are unable to produce eggs could 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:07.200 be barred from spaces under the legislation's legal terms. 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:15.160 Likewise, sis, man, I guess yeah, it's it's yeah, like 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:19.320 or like you have like fucking had an accident or 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:23.800 you know, yeah, like yeah, you know, and and it's bullshit, 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:27.520 like its pointing out the logical errors. It doesn't really 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:30.040 work because that's not really the point, is it, Like, 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:32.760 like their point is not to be like logically found, 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:33.880 it's to be cruel. 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.800 Yeah. But but but I think there is something very 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:39.720 important about this, which is that this this is a 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:43.200 very very firm example of how the struggle for trans 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:46.440 rights and sort of you know, like trans bodily autonomy 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:49.040 is intimately connected with the struggle with abortion rights, because 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:52.480 if you look at what's happened here, right, Republican lawmakers 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.400 are literally defining women by their by their capacity to 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:59.920 produce children for them. Yeah, so you know this is 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:01.960 this is not like the these are these are two 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:06.079 very very into connected struggles and the same people have 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:11.520 the same absolutely dog shit like horrific patriarchal politics in 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:15.880 both of them. So, okay, so we're gonna We're gonna 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:18.199 leave camp in Nebrette. Okay, so we've we've had two 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:19.920 really grim stories in a row. We're gonna have one 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:24.439 that saw less grim, which is Nebraska. So okay, there 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.120 has been a bill to ban January Form CAARE for minors, 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:30.559 but it is being staved off basically single handedly by 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:34.120 the genuinely heroic efforts of state Senators Megan Hunt and 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:38.560 Michelle Kavanaugh, who have been philibustering literally every bill that 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:40.800 goes through the state Senate the stop bit from happening, 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:44.880 which fucking rips. Yeah, and like you know, okay, so 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:46.320 basically the things like we will, we will, we will 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:49.000 philibuster literally every single bill until they stop trying to 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:50.920 patch this band through. And you know this is the okay, 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:53.000 So like there was there was a thing that happened 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.680 in the early twenty tens where in the US, like 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:59.679 the big US Senate, right, they changed the rules about philibustering, 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:01.360 so don't actually have to stand there and talk for 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:05.640 eight hours because they're fucking cowards and an almoys pieces 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:10.160 of shit in that is not true in Nebraska. If 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.080 you want to fill a buster a bill, you have 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:14.040 to fucking stand up there and talk for eight hours. 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:17.520 And they have been doing this for months. Yeah, and 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:21.320 it's it's it's it's holding that you know, basically. So 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.640 the way philibust it works, right is you can't kind 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:26.040 of like in the Senate, and then also in the 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:29.920 state Senate, you can't stop someone from talking unless they 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:31.800 like dream debate, you can't stop someone talking unless you 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:34.360 get a two thirds vote of the body for emotion 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:36.840 to cloture. So they've just been forcing you to do 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:38.199 it for every single bill, and they don't have the 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.080 votes in some of the bills. So yeah, you know, 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:42.880 and the reason I think this is this is happening, 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:45.960 you know, the reason that they've been doing this and 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:50.920 not sort of just like like doing bullshit like most 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:52.800 of the Democratic. Well, partially it's because there's a Senate 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:55.199 and partially because Senator Hunt has a twelve year old 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:58.960 trans son, Yeah, which yeah, has has given her, you know, 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.800 a sort of urgency that's absent from Democrats and other states. 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.520 Yeah, which theoretical for her. Yeah. 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:07.160 And I mean, like, this is one of the things 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.360 that sucks about this right is like it it should 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:14.080 not fall on you know, like literally the trend, like 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.840 the rights of the children of an entire state are 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:22.640 falling on like one mom and the few other Democrats 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.240 who decided to take a stand with her, And that's fucked. 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:27.600 That is nonsense. 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:32.760 Like it's yeah, it's great that she's doing it, but like, yeah, 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:33.920 this is. 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:38.960 This is horrible. Yeah. Do you know what else is horrible? A? 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:44.160 Is it the products and services that support podcast? 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:46.480 But I have to see regulations. I don't think I 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:47.240 can legally say that. 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.000 But no, no, we do don't. 0:14:49.080 --> 0:15:02.240 No, it's not not that Yeah, and we're back. 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.320 Okay, So now we're gonna get to I think the 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:08.800 most famous story or most most well known story of 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.480 an anti trans fight that's been happening recently, and that 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:18.000 is Montana. So Montana has passed a bill that bands 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:20.640 gender for macare from Binnis and also opposes legal sanction 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.720 as anyone who does it. Governor Greg Giafanti like has 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:27.560 a non binary son. Who is he they and he 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.960 like gave a speech it was like dad, fucking don't 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:34.960 sign these bills, and his dad signed them. Anyways. Yeah, 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:37.680 one of the co sponsors of this bill, on the 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:41.320 floor of of of the Montana House said she'd rather 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:45.600 her children die in transition and then had yeah, yeah, 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:47.200 and she had to give a press commence later saying 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.960 she didn't actually mean that, but like no, she that's 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.120 literally what she sat on the floor of the fucking house. 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:56.040 So these people are ghouls and monsters. They are the 0:15:56.160 --> 0:16:01.320 dogs of uh this the sort of the Republican Freedom Caucus, 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:06.240 which is their like absolutely deranged like Matt Gates fucking 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:10.240 weirdos in Congress who are if you remember that giant 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:11.960 fight over the speaker of the House, like that was 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:16.000 those freaks like the Yeah, these people are like their 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:20.600 local sort of like dogs. There's two other absolutely terrifying 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.080 bills that are about to become law. There's HB three 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:26.520 fifty nine, which is a ban on kids attending drag shows, 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:30.480 which like that bill has gotten less bad than it was, 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.680 which is it's now a ban on kids attending adult entertainments. 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:35.880 But you know, guess he gets to decide what adult 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:38.920 entertainment is, ETA, et cetera. Right, yeah, And that bill 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:40.680 has passed both the House and the Senate is waiting 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:45.040 for reconciliation. There is the even worse SB four fifty eight, 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:48.000 which is basically the bill from Kansas, except I'm just 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.920 gonna read some of it. Female means a member of 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:54.640 the human species who, under normal developments, has produced xx 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:59.120 chromosomes and producers it would produce regular, relatively large, immobile 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:01.840 gam meats or a between her life cycle, and has 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:05.440 a reproductive and endocrine system oriented around this production of gammi. 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.520 As an individual who would otherwise fall within this definition 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.720 but for a biological or genetic condition as female. So 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:13.960 this is straight turf shit, right. This is a straight 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:16.720 up like a woman as an adult human female thing 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:20.280 that like these people walk around saying, thinking is like 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.760 a normal thing to say, oh. 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:25.800 Yeah, and thinking that, like specifically the chromosonality thing we 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:27.640 know has been bullh it for a very long time. 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:30.600 There was nonsense. The people don't know is nobiology. 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:34.719 Yeah, sorry, yeah, and we can Like the example is 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:38.000 this woman called Mario Jose Martinez Patigno who was a 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:42.560 hurdler who won a number of events and then lost 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:47.000 her medals because she failed a chromosonality test and fucking 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:50.200 ruined her life, right, lost her fiance, lost her job, 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:53.320 lost all her competitions, and was able to successfully sue 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:55.399 with the help of leading experts in the field, to 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:58.280 prove that like I think she had like mosaics, she 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:02.399 exhibited mosaicism x Y, and that like this is in 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:06.239 fact a normal fucking variation in the human species. And 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.480 like this was in the eighties and we're still doing 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:08.880 this shit. 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:09.480 Yeap. 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.200 Her paper's are really good, by the way, she's a 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:16.920 professor of philosophy now, oh cool, yeah, yeah she's yeah, 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:18.760 she's great. I specator a few times, but. 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:23.280 Yeah, brad w Yeah. But like these people are doing, 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:27.399 you know, like they are you know this this this 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:30.800 this bill legally rights trans people out of existence, and 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:32.959 it is again another one of these gender paragraph things 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:36.160 where this the state is legally defining what gender you are. 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.000 But also you know, but again like they have to 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.879 do all this like bullshit because you know, this is 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:43.359 other thing that I said, like, these guys, these people 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:47.440 are like slightly I don't know smarter is the right word, 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:50.880 but they're slight. They're they're slightly more engaged in turf shit. 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:56.119 So they have a more convoluted, like biological misconception of 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:59.320 what a woman is, which they can't define because it's 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:00.080 not a thing. 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:04.680 Like yeah, it's a social constructagy yeah, because they can't society. Yeah. 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:07.280 And put in mind of South Africa constantly chasing the 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:10.919 fucking definition of what race was and like trying to 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:15.000 define like a multi racial kids into one box or 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:15.680 another box. 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:17.880 Yeah, it's you know, it doesn't work. But the problem 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:19.119 is this bill is going to be signed by the 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:23.879 governor like next week, probably possibly this week, like in 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:25.600 the next couple of weeks, is going to be signed. 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:31.040 So that's really fucking bad. So the part of the 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:33.879 story that thinks the most well known is Montana Republican's 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:38.960 crusade against Montana House Rep. Zoe Zephyr. Zoe Zephyr is 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:41.880 trans She is a rep for a part of Missoula, 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.760 which is a college town home to the University of Montana. 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:48.200 We talked about this a bit when Zoe won her seat. 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:50.560 But I really before we really get into what's been 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:52.240 happening to Zoe, I want to talk a bit about 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:56.240 Missoula and a bit about the sort of the geography 0:19:56.240 --> 0:20:01.640 of transmigration, because the the way the media talks about this, 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:05.840 right is that you know, transmit like trans trans refugees 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:08.359 and transmigration is something thats started with these anti trans bills. 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:13.600 And that's not true. This is this, all of this stuff, 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:17.280 all of the sort of fleeing, all the refugee stuff, 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:22.800 pre dates Tennessee, it predates Missouri. It's always been happening, yeah, 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:26.080 you know, because and the the actual process of this 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:29.399 is that, you know, for for generations and generations, the 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:31.679 wretcht of the earth get fed to the wolves, and 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:33.320 then the wolves spit them out of their homes and 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:38.280 their communities, and they fled. They've fled to places like Portland, 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:42.320 in Philadelphia, in Atlanta and Chicago, places where people like 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:44.399 us had clawed out in existence in a world that 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:47.840 wants is dead, where we continuously survive off the shit 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:50.760 end of urban labor markets. And this is something that 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:52.840 has happened beneath the notice or even the contempt of 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:55.080 Bush West society. But it's been going on for longer 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.080 than we've had words that we've had the words that 0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:00.400 we used today to describe it. And you know, Azula 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:01.880 is one of those places where you can go when 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:04.040 your family kicks you out. And then you know and 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:06.080 that that that's not the only way people end up here, right, Like, 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.520 there's a lot of people who you know, you know, 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:11.399 have better stories, right they go to college, they discover themselves. 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:14.160 There are people who go here because it's where they've 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:17.400 chosen to make new lives. And you know something, there's 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:20.119 also just people who are from Missoula who just realize 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:23.160 they're trans. And you know, it's this mix of sort 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:27.840 of trans refugees, transmigrants and the local trans community that 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:31.320 you know, all fuse together and becomes a sort of 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:34.600 beautiful community that we've been you know, has finally like 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:39.440 stepped out of the shadows in the last like ten years. 0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:42.480 And you know, and this is why it's not enormously 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:45.199 surprising that Missoula sent Zoe's efforts to a Letta to 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:47.000 represent them, because this is, you know, again like this 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:51.160 is one of these places that like collects people from 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:54.080