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Speaker 1: Am I the asshole for filing for child support after

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Speaker 1: my child's father bought a house? This is okop where

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Speaker 1: wead the craziest true stories on Earth. I'm John and Sam.

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Speaker 1: Are they the ahole?

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Speaker 2: Well, now that you know that he has money, like,

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Speaker 2: it seven percent interests every seven years.

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Speaker 1: That doubles dude free financial advice out here. This is incredible.

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Speaker 1: This is incredible. So not the not the ahole. With

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been investing in those those vtis, you know funds,

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Speaker 2: baby Vanguard index fund Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: No free sponsors though, but yes, we've been investing in

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Speaker 1: generic index funds. Yeah, that's what we've been doing. But

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Speaker 2: What a great segue. I'm happy with that one. That's great,

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Speaker 2: they say. I am going to apologize in advance for

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Speaker 2: a long post. But there's some background that's relevant.

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Speaker 1: My ex and I met when we were thirteen and

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Speaker 2: We were saying that earlier that relationships don't count before thirteen,

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's you can talk about it, but yeah it

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Speaker 1: doesn't really Yeah right, that's a good point. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, like basically, like anything, any relationship that you have

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Speaker 3: The record unless it makes it into high school.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like that as soon as the relationship

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, it starts at thirteen, so you've been

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Speaker 1: The grandfathering of middle school, the high school relationships.

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Speaker 2: I have all these random rules that people like the

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Speaker 2: For every four years of marriage, you get a hall pass.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. We reference that a lot whenever the podcast there

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Speaker 3: is Sophia's like what Sam would say something like that,

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Speaker 2: Would, that's your brother. It's documented, all right. This comes

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Speaker 2: from Cosmic Ink. Well, Sam's Golden rules of marriage. For

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Speaker 2: every four years of marriage, you get a single haul

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Speaker 2: one month for every year you do it together before

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Speaker 2: dating someone else. Make more rules of marriage. I'll cross

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Speaker 2: stitch them. I'll make you a cross stage of them

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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Oh this is not stop.

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Speaker 1: This is great. This is not great, dude.

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Speaker 3: That means we're gonna have it like embedded into our

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Speaker 1: That's so funny. Wow, well there's Honestly, Sam, you could

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Speaker 1: I love my marriage walls. I don't know if I

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Speaker 3: Sadly they make sense. But wait, hold on, hold on,

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Speaker 3: I'm not me. They're just like, oh that checks out.

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Speaker 1: Don't get out of yourself. You don't get out of yourselves.

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Speaker 2: You got to be principle based, exactly the center. You

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Speaker 1: Sam's Golden rule.

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Speaker 2: What's the book Seven Habits of Highly Effective People? Steve Kobe? Really,

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Speaker 3: I could also get hop on that train. I'm against

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Speaker 1: You could you could be three it could be three.

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Speaker 1: What that would be like? Uh, five fifteen thousand, yeah,

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Speaker 1: These kids are now the oldest one is fifteen he

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Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, And where was he saving up that money?

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Speaker 2: So that's where we get the back the back payments. Yes, so, baby,

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Speaker 1: We do as well as telling me that he and

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Speaker 2: This guy, Wow, what a crazy reveal to have happened

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Speaker 1: And honestly, I'm gonna throw this up red flag segment,

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Speaker 1: I know, I know you must know some of his situation.

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Speaker 1: Does she though? You're right? And if she doesn't, double

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Speaker 1: red flag? Yes, we already we already knew he was

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Speaker 1: you're right, big big red flags over here, red big

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Speaker 1: I refiled way before he had applied for a loan.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea he was planning to buy a house.

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Speaker 1: As we do not talk when he communicates with me.

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Speaker 1: So then she definitely knows about her. Yeah, yeah, she

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Speaker 2: But I imagine she knows enough that if she's the point

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Speaker 1: Come on, he has seen our oldest child one time

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Speaker 1: he's just totally ignoring this family, comple his first family

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Speaker 2: If you get one starter family, start you get a

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Speaker 1: And then you're ready for the big league practice family

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Speaker 1: practice family, practice family, Then you go. Then you go

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Speaker 3: Wait, I'm just trying to figure out I'm a part

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Speaker 1: Because what do you mean?

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Speaker 3: Because works family? Right like we all live in a

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Speaker 3: house together. That's right, but it's his practice family.

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Speaker 1: You are our maiden. Now you're you're a main family.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 3: Am I practice family or real family?

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Speaker 1: Let me know in the comments real family? Hell us?

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Speaker 2: Do you not see that hug we gave you on

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Speaker 2: that was released on January sixteenth?

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Speaker 3: Dude, that's true. I do remember that Singlear thirty minutes.

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Speaker 2: Check out the January sixteenth video at the thirty minute

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Speaker 2: mark and see how much we love Riley.

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Speaker 1: That's right. We have the receipts, gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: Seats baby editors put that in to show how much

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. And my son is in football

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Speaker 1: But I have never asked him to pay anything in

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Speaker 2: And I think there maybe possibly he was lying about

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Speaker 1: I wonder. Okay, you know what you're inspiring? Conspiracy theory,

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Speaker 1: A conspiracy theory. Okay, all right, take me on this journey.

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Speaker 1: Let's say that the husband or the X was forging

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Speaker 1: and he was forging the docs. Well, forget about child support.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about like embezzlement, fraud.

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Speaker 2: A lot of othern's going to jail again a lot

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Speaker 2: of other gates. But at least he's going to white

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Speaker 2: So where they have like tennis courts and stuff, what

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Speaker 2: if they sounds pretty nice. They try to get him

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Speaker 2: in there, Sam always hit these tanks. Guys, go after him,

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Speaker 2: go go get him.

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Speaker 3: He did the must segment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, part for that's that's gonna be a good one.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to read those. But uh, yeah, do

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Speaker 1: we think that he could basically go back to jail

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Speaker 2: I think it's possible. It's I think it's possible, But

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Speaker 2: I also think I think it's for sure possible. Well,

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Speaker 2: because they're like per government at financial units. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I honestly think that that is probably the most likely scenario,

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Speaker 2: But I would love to see this conspiracy theory made

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Speaker 2: me know your opinions of white collar prison.

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Speaker 1: So tell Sam what you think below. And now we're

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Speaker 1: getting into the big fact. Did you hear that they

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Speaker 1: like have tennis courts and white color price. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: they have tennis courts, white color jail.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: What what's what's what's uh? What's bad about what I'm

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's anything bad about what you're

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Speaker 1: saying there, all right, So that means with everything I'm

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Speaker 2: All right, got him in, I got it. He's roped,

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Speaker 2: updates first. Thanks for everyone who had good and kind advice.

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Speaker 2: I also appreciate those of you who shared stories, as

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Speaker 2: it helped me feel better about quote unquote effing him

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Speaker 2: over his words, not mine. Taking care of your children

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Speaker 2: is not effing someone over.

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Speaker 1: How dare you try to steal this money from me

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Speaker 1: to try to pay for the kids and didn't pay

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Speaker 1: for it? Don't you realize that that was my practice family.

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Speaker 2: I should be held countable for my practice family.

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Speaker 1: You can't market only scorecard, babe. I spoke with my

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Speaker 1: mom's attorney yesterday. He said that in my state I

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Speaker 1: that up. Baby. That means in our situation, it may

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Speaker 1: So it seems like in certain areas it's harder to

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Speaker 1: She will get something big picture, not really a huge deal.

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Speaker 1: I'll take what I can get with this. My ex

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Speaker 1: so that's what they have, the easily easily provable.

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Speaker 2: Receipts for the old So he would need a DNA

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Speaker 2: like you should need a DNA test more pitch. Very

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Speaker 2: easy to do because she could get one of her

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's gotta be how educated we have become with

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude, I mean a whole spin off your day.

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Speaker 2: DNA test came like someone talked about twenty three meters

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Speaker 2: and ancestry. I dinner yesterday and I was.

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Speaker 1: Like, but I have things to tell you. Let me

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Speaker 2: Can me tell you about the Pandora's box you just open?

439
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 2: Oh you thought that was a cute little DNA test. Well,

440
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 2: did you know your grandma cheated on your grandma?

441
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 1: Gotcha? Bish? We were not together when I had my

442
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 1: youngest we slept together one time. I am uugh I know,

443
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 1: and I knew the type of parent he was at

444
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: that point, so I never called him and told him.

445
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 1: His brother absolutely told him, but he never called me

446
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 1: to confirm until the day he was born, when he

447
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: showed up to the hospital unannounced. That being said, we

448
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 1: did not sign a birth certificate and we didn't do

449
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 1: a DNA test until he was four years old. Okay,

450
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: so they do know, they do know, But earlier they

451
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: said it's hard to get the back support from four

452
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 1: years old to birth. I see, I see, so before

453
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 1: they did a DNA tech. Yes, yeah. The attorney also

454
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: contacted the child support office. They sent a few papers

455
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 1: for me to fill out. I faxed them in this morning.

456
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 1: And now I'm waiting on a call for those of

457
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 1: you saying I should have married him before we had kids. Seriously,

458
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 1: question mark. I'm glad I didn't me too. Facts, I

459
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: would have been stuck married to this man for so

460
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: long as he was. Am I a missing in action

461
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: most of the time. Also, where I lived, the father

462
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,479
Speaker 1: of the child has no legal rights to the children.

463
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: I mean missing an action. That's exactly what it means.

464
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 1: Oh old military Uh phrase, do you know what means

465
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 1: kissing an action? Oh? God, military wise about other circumstances,

466
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: but killing an action, killed an action, killed an action ago.

467
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: Unless he is awarded rights by a judge or you

468
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: were married, he's not going to get custody of the children.

469
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 1: It looks like I think in most cases this law

470
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: is completely unfair. But in mind, it protected my children

471
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: from him picking them up while on a bender and

472
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: mad at me and taking off with them. Yeah, so

473
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 1: he agreed kidnapping them. Yeah, he's like it's bad to

474
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: flat out be like, hey, the father has no rights whatsoever.

475
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: But in my particular case, it actually worked out for

476
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: the better. I mean, together he and his wife have

477
00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 1: guess how many kids? Guess how men children? Wait? More

478
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: than one, there's more than one, and you got to

479
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: guess how many they have.

480
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess he has at least the same amount

481
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 2: or more than his practice family. So I'm gonna say,

482
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 2: like four.

483
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 1: A good and logical guess. Together he and his wife

484
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: have seven children.

485
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 6: Boo.

486
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 2: Seven man's seed is strong because like, they only hooked

487
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: up once and then that was the third kid.

488
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: Yes, and shoo, shooter, shoot, there is some more context here.

489
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: So let's get to that. To this seven my three,

490
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: So they're counting the children. This is not purely ones

491
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: that they Okay, so it's seven total. I didn't know

492
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: that until I read that next part. So my three

493
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: the one that you know OP and the and the

494
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: X show together. She has two that she does not

495
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: see or pay for either. So confirmed she is a

496
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: red flag. She had two kids in a previous relationship

497
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: that she doesn't give an f about. Oh yeah, first

498
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: starter family, that's right. Yeah, so that's five so far,

499
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: and he has one that was legally adopted away, so

500
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: no longer his he never gave.

501
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: An adopted kid away. Oh my god, dude, this is

502
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 2: this is crazy. Oh see, that's bad because he already

503
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: had a practice family like that. You can't have a

504
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: second practice ye, Sam's like, that's where it goes.

505
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: He crossed the line.

506
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 2: This is not one of Sam's marriage relationship rules.

507
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: Except it is one of Sam's trademark relationships. Yeah, what

508
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: would be the rule?

509
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 2: You get one practice family, you get one practice fan

510
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 2: every ten years. Commenter, you know what to do. Actually,

511
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 2: I need to get one practice family period. One practice family.

512
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 2: One practice is a practice family period for your whole life, right, Yeah,

513
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: one practice family and then he violated it because he

514
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 2: had a second practice family by getting it like this,

515
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: adopting this kid exactly, and so because of that and

516
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 2: only that, he is the ale.

517
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: Sam's out that I am with the adopted child. He

518
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 1: never showed up for the court and they stripped him

519
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: of his legal rights. Thank god. This man is not

520
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: need more kid truly, and he's having another one. It's crazy,

521
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: I know. I will update when I have something else

522
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: worth adding here. Again, thank you to all of you

523
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: who were so supportive. This has been a struggle for

524
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: me for years because I never wanted to make it

525
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: hard for him to survive. But you are all right.

526
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: He has never taken any responsibility and he is more

527
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: than stable now, so it's only fair to me and

528
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: my children. Thank you so much. We have another update

529
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: coming up, but we have to pause, pause, and break

530
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 1: it down. Let's break it down. What do we think

531
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 1: is that the real question? The real question? What is

532
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: the real question?

533
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 5: We already we.

534
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: Already determined that Opie is not the ahole for pursuing it.

535
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: How should he not sure? How should Opie now pursue it? Actually?

536
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: I mean put it into action.

537
00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 2: For sure, get child support for like going forward for sure,

538
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 2: and I think she should go back as far as possible.

539
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: I mean, like this guy obviously has the money to

540
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 2: help in some way, and so does his partner. They

541
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 2: have a house, they could I mean, like, let's say

542
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 2: you can't pay all of it right away, he can

543
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: take out money against the house and pay it too.

544
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 2: So I think there is very little reasons that he

545
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 2: shouldn't be able to pay.

546
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: What is the number again with three children up to

547
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: fifteen years for the oldest of back pay that he

548
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: should pay, Well, it would be fifteen years, right, fifteen

549
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: years what children average?

550
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 2: So oh yeah, like to calculate that. So but we

551
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 2: learned that like the average child support was like what

552
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: a few hundred bucks was like let's say four hundred

553
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 2: very roughly speaking. Yeah, so that's that's four hundred bucks

554
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: a month, four hundred bucks a month, So that's forty

555
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: eight hundred dollars a year.

556
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: Okay, what are the ages of the kid children U fifteen, thirteen.

557
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 3: And eighth fifteen at three?

558
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh so that's fifteen, so that's twenty eight, that's

559
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: thirty six. So you could be looking at one hundred

560
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: and seventy two thousand dollars in back payments one hundred and.

561
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: I say, frick and go for it. Take his house.

562
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: Go true, like honestly, equity line against the house where

563
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: it's like they get like a second mortgage or something

564
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: along one hundred and seventy two grand like sheesh, bro good.

565
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 7: Luck, he could have been on it. He could have

566
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 7: been on good luck. Does he have to pay that

567
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 7: all at once?

568
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: That'd be wild. So when you take out money from

569
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: your house like you could, he could he take out

570
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,239
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy two k and then just have

571
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: to pay like that much more mortgage. Yes, I believe

572
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: that that is possible because think about it, that's what

573
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to do when you get when you

574
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: get the initial loan for the house, the bank giving

575
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: you the loan, they have to pay the person all

576
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: the money, so they do give out you know.

577
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: So I and you know what, like I think if

578
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: op sued for one hundred and seventy grand, it is

579
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: possible that the guy could pay it because he is

580
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: a homeowner, exact homeowner.

581
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: The wife we now, she said, I believe it was

582
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: like almost quote unquote now that he is well off

583
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: and like doing good financially. So they have the house

584
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: and they're doing good. Finds, go after it, you deserve it.

585
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: Ready to find out if she got it. I'm ready.

586
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: I hope this update is filled with money and legal joy.

587
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: Same here, let's get into it. He must have been

588
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: served as final papers for mediation, which is the second

589
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: of November. They said that they would give him time

590
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: to get all of his paperwork together. All right, okay,

591
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: but he called and asked to get the kids for

592
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: the weekend two weeks in a row. I allowed them

593
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: to go as at this point it wasn't going to

594
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: change the amount of parenting time he has, as it's

595
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: been documented all year. So I think she's like, this

596
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: isn't just breaking it down, like oh, hey, he's picking

597
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: up the kids. It's almost like for because you remember

598
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: how he looked up like oh the child support changes

599
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: based on how much time they spend at the house

600
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: and stuff. I think she's kind of like, here's the receipts. Yeah,

601
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: so like him, him, even if he was trying to

602
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: pull something where it's like see I hang out with

603
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: the kids, Like there's enough receipts that even him doing

604
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: that wouldn't sway the opinion. He got fifteen years against you,

605
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: my guy. Oh man. He then picked my son up

606
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: for a third weekend, and while he was there alone,

607
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: was asking him questions about if I have a boyfriend,

608
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: does he see me with bills? If I do, I

609
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: do have someone I spend time with, we are not

610
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: officially together, and my children only know him as a friend.

611
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: When I spend money on how I'm paying my bills,

612
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: how much I spend on things for him and his siblings,

613
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. He's mining the kid for information

614
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: to use against.

615
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: I mean, we already know he's an asshole, but like

616
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: using your kids discuss disgusting.

617
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: Disgusting. He then proceeded to ask if they were willing

618
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: to give him a bedroom and if he would move

619
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: in with them. They're trying to get the youngest to

620
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: live with them. Now what the kid that he abandoned

621
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: for what ten years? Finally, now that there's a case

622
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: for him to pay back support, they're coming. They're trying

623
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: to get him right because then he wouldn't have to

624
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: pay It could help deduce or just make his case

625
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: better in general. Yeah, you heard that, right, all this

626
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: money on a new house, and my kids wouldn't even

627
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: have rooms. They have their room, their child together has

628
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: a room, and she has a room for herself for

629
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: quote unquote her time, and they were considering turning the

630
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: basement into another room. So my children are sleeping on

631
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: the couch when they visit. They basically have two extra bedrooms.

632
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: That is so whack wow, my god, so like that.

633
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: I feel like that proves the point that he actually

634
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: doesn't care about them. He's just trying to get out

635
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: of possibly having to pay something. He's all trying. He's

636
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: just trying to leverage these children to get out of pain.

637
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: What what terrible person. Awful, what a terrible person. I

638
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: decided not to confront him about any of this. Ah,

639
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: I just documented it for the attorney yep, and passed

640
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: it on. But better to do that, catch him off guard,

641
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: playing your cards, right. I will update again when we

642
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: actually go to mediation or if he pulls any more craziness,

643
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: and please tell her that update. And that is it

644
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: for this story right now. That is a seed. I know,

645
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: I know, this is a it's a doozy. That's a doozy.

646
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: What he just gets worse. He truly just gets worse

647
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: age like milk, you know, and you think he can't

648
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: I mean crazy convicted felon, it was in and out,

649
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: and then just abandoned not just this family, other children. Yeah,

650
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like the legal case against him

651
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: is going to be like a no brainer though. And

652
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: also one, it's crazy that the wife basically had the

653
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: same pattern, So I guess they're I guess they belong together.

654
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: That she married him, and now basically because she married.

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Speaker 2: Him, she's gonna possibly get saddled with the financial consequences exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean that like.

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Speaker 2: Sucks for her, but also it sounds like she kind

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Speaker 2: of deserves it a little bit too.

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Speaker 1: She kind of deserves it. And this just connected to

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Speaker 1: my brain. It's low key could be a get out

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Speaker 1: of jail free card for him because if it's all

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Speaker 1: her money and like her finances technically if you look

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Speaker 1: at it, not.

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Speaker 2: Paying anything still and she's responsible and she's and she's

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Speaker 2: responsible because if you get married, it's like your your

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Speaker 2: financial all of your finances could be could be merged.

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Speaker 1: Like a joint account. The the uh I'd be like, yo,

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Speaker 1: you got this joint account right now today after this hearing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, at the very least the house they probably

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Speaker 2: own together. So if they have to take out money

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Speaker 2: against the house, yeah, who's fucked.

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Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, this is a tough I'm wondering from anyone

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Speaker 1: in the comments below, have you seen any situations like this?

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Speaker 1: Have you been in a situation?

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Speaker 2: I imagine we definitely have some parents that have gone through

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Speaker 2: like either divorces or have gone I've done some kind

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Speaker 2: of back payments potentially for child support. I would love

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Speaker 2: to know your stories, Yes, share advice stories. We want

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Speaker 2: to hear it all below. But if you love us,

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Speaker 1: This is an episode from Deep Within the Archives. Time

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Speaker 1: for okop Relam.

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Speaker 2: John, You're in a relationship, right Hell heck, yeah i am.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm kind of in something.

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Speaker 1: You're kind of in multiple relationships potentially, Yeah, I'm in.

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Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm in.

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Speaker 2: I'm in a situationship right now, a situation Yeah, it's uh,

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Speaker 2: we're trying to figure out. But anyway, the thing is,

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to learn how to be a better lover

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Speaker 2: of better, a better a better boyfriend, a better situation

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Speaker 2: ship man, and I.

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Speaker 1: Want to learn for the best.

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Speaker 2: Oh definitely, And I feel like there's no better way

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Speaker 2: to learn about how a functioning relationship blossoms.

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Speaker 1: Oh and dies. Paternity Court. It is the epitome of

696
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: relationship advice when you think about it.

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00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is like, this is like this is what

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Speaker 2: you do not do, or maybe it is what you do,

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00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 2: depending on what kind of relationship.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I love and adore my partner, or maybe

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Speaker 1: I get ten mistresses.

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00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: You don't know, a John, I think ten mistresses would

703
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Speaker 2: suit you. But we are the official judges of the

704
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Speaker 2: Paternity Court, and we're gonna judge.

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Speaker 1: This crazy freaking story.

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Speaker 2: The title is Afghanistan veteran learns his wife cheated when

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Speaker 2: he was deployed during his tour of duty. You know

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00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: that was getting a tour of her booty. Yeah, she

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00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: was doing a whole different tour. Oh yeah, dude, I

710
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: was trying to on that tour oh close before I

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00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: could get in rats unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And hey, I'm here now here and now and

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00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe there's maybe this shall help. Maybe

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Speaker 1: we'll learn the contact information of this person in particular,

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Speaker 1: we can bring on the show. We get started. Only

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Speaker 1: and only stand and.

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Speaker 7: Only yeah, and uh and only no judgment only fans

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Speaker 7: here we go.

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Speaker 1: I love that there's two judges. That's right. Uh, Samuel,

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Speaker 1: are you ready to begin the case? I am so ready.

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Speaker 1: Get me on this case. Gabble, gabble, gabble, Let the case,

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Speaker 1: Let the case begin.

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Speaker 8: You may be seated.

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Speaker 9: Hell, your honor.

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Speaker 5: It was just a case of thrill killed intense.

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Speaker 1: The intro is paternity court where lives get Yeah, mister.

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Speaker 4: You have entered this courtroom with a marriage on the

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Speaker 4: brink of throat killers.

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Speaker 8: State that while you were.

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Speaker 6: Twenty other men his wife is a sex and twenty

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Speaker 6: other men. It's not just the one, it's twenty yike, No, no, no,

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Speaker 6: it's the least.

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Speaker 2: This guy looks like an Afghanistan at least twenty other men.

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Speaker 1: My god, he's like, I'm confirmed twenty. I was watching

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Speaker 1: every single one of them. I feel like that's his

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Speaker 1: like like a sniper count. It's like, you know, how

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Speaker 1: many how many people have I taken out in the field? Well,

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Speaker 1: at least maybe those are the that's the people that

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Speaker 1: he should be sniping.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, Yeah, the confirmed twenty kills Afghanistan veteran goes on

741
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Speaker 2: a rampage.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we know we are starting off hot. Yeah, we are.

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Speaker 8: Around town with other men.

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Speaker 2: And she has admitted to curded. The judge already served looks.

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Speaker 4: You claim you are not sure if you are the

746
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Speaker 4: father of she's admitted built eighteen month old Liliana and

747
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Speaker 4: have asked the court for we love the kid on set.

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Speaker 1: Kid, I don't know. I don't know if the kid

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Speaker 1: actually yeah, where else would the kid be like zooming it?

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Speaker 1: Like the baby is just like zooming into the They

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Speaker 1: have the what if they call the baby to the stands? Baby,

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Speaker 1: where were you the night of April twenty first at

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Speaker 1: nine pm? Do you remember yourself being conceived? Which a man?

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Speaker 1: Was it? To the father that's in this.

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Speaker 5: Room, bro?

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Speaker 1: What they have to call the baby to the stand.

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Speaker 2: Also imagine like growing up and being like, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: was on like paternity courts most viewed, Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: That's me. That's my god. The full story is that

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Speaker 1: we watched the whole thing and then Sam reveals that

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Speaker 1: he is actually the maternity kid that is in question here.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, I blocked at my memory. That's why this

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Speaker 1: is the first time thinking of viewing it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, is this throat killed?

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Speaker 4: You say you begin exotic chicks to make extra money, because.

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Speaker 1: Bro a beggar. This is a starting off hot yo,

767
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: Like man goes off to war.

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Speaker 2: He's trying to provide for his family and she starts stripping.

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Speaker 1: Listen, she's he's he's provided for his family. She's providing

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00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: those cheeks. Okay, everyone is providing as long as they're

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Speaker 1: on the same page. And she was truthful about it,

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Speaker 1: you know, which, of course she's gonna be right, right,

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00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: of course, of course. And he's probably cool with her stripping, right, Oh, yeah, definitely,

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Speaker 1: he loves it. This military man, he's like, only twenty

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Speaker 1: go for forty girl for you bring in the big bugs.

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Speaker 8: Misters, military salary.

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Speaker 4: Was inadequate to live on, and that led to a

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00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 4: few indiscri Russians. You argue that mister thrill killed treats

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Speaker 4: your daughter Liliana differently than your other children, and are

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Speaker 4: hoping today's DNA results will see because it's once and.

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Speaker 8: Now mister Threll killed.

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Speaker 4: When did you first discover that your wife had been unfaithful?

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Speaker 10: Actually, remember I was overseas in Afghanistan and I was

784
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Speaker 10: at h up in the northeast and a soldier might

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Speaker 10: treat me on the boots at hey right now.

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Speaker 5: So earlier on in the day, me and him got

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Speaker 5: into some words.

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Speaker 1: I thought we were gonna know a soldier's betrayal.

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Speaker 10: His wife and my wife were friends, and she had

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Speaker 10: found out that she was actually stripping as we spoke.

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Speaker 5: And at the.

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Speaker 10: Time, you know I found out about it, I thought,

793
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 10: you know, it was all just a home I went

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Speaker 10: the way to the internet lounge, got on Facebook and

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Speaker 10: asked her, Hey, you know, is is it true you're

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Speaker 10: doing what I told you I didn't want you doing

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Speaker 10: at all? And she didn't really say anything, honestly, And

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Speaker 10: right after I left, got it.

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Speaker 1: Soldier's maternity betrayal.

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Speaker 2: I love it, Like he has such a low bar.

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Speaker 2: It's like, babe, can just not strip while I'm away

802
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Speaker 2: fighting for your life and your country in safety?

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 1: She's like, nah, I love how they keep popping up

805
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: a soldier's paternity betrayal. Man. So I was in the

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00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: dark for three weeks and wait, wait, roll it back.

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Speaker 10: And they actually turned off me and I left there.

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00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 10: Our base actually got attacked and they actually turned off

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Speaker 10: the internet for three weeks. I was in the dark

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Speaker 10: for three weeks and then another two weeks after and

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Speaker 10: Wall wasn't bogging. I finally was able to get back online,

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Speaker 10: and there's this some clown on there saying, you know,

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Speaker 10: you know, liking all her skimpy photos.

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00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 5: You know, yeah, it was following herd. He's like, oh, no,

815
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Speaker 5: at the club.

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Speaker 10: So now I started doing a little bit of research, wondering,

817
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 10: you know who this guy is. So I went to

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Speaker 10: the phone and I called her and said, Hey, you know,

819
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 10: I know you're stripping. You know that that, you know

820
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Speaker 10: I could somewhat deal with.

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Speaker 1: Was in a war zone and says he has to

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Speaker 1: cope with the news that life.

823
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Speaker 2: I love these updates, like breaking news.

824
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: Breaking news, his base was attacked by his girl was

825
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: giving up them cheeks.

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Speaker 2: I feel so bad for this guy, bro, Oh my god.

827
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Speaker 2: And it's like the more he learns, oh, he's getting

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Speaker 2: his whole life just stripped away, no pun intended.

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Speaker 5: Hey, you know, I know you're stripping.

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Speaker 10: You know that that, you know I could somewhat deal with,

831
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 10: you know, tell me about this guy that's going on.

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00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,479
Speaker 10: And she says, Oh, it's nothing, it's just a friend,

833
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 10: you know, et cetera. The same bs that every girl.

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Speaker 8: He's done.

835
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Speaker 9: He hacked my Facebook. He made it my privacy and

836
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 9: he looked into my stuff, into my messages. So that's

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Speaker 9: how we found out.

838
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 8: What did he find there?

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Speaker 9: More messages?

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00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 10: Yes, but actually she's gonna already lie she Actually I

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00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 10: got on there and on the inbox, I see, I see.

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Speaker 10: Oh baby, I can't wait to see landa and night.

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00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 10: I had a great time with you. I can't wait

844
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Speaker 10: to you know, the last few days we've spent together,

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Speaker 10: it's been amazing.

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Speaker 8: These are the messages.

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Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am, see that your wife is entertaining while you're

848
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Speaker 4: serving your country.

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Speaker 5: Yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 1: Bro the judge is not having it. She's stoke. I

851
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: love the people cackle like in the background. Yeah, I

852
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: wish this is to make real courts like this. Yeah,

853
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: they should do that. I want I want tomatoes too.

854
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: I want to like throw tomatoes the person who's lying,

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00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: you know, bring in the dancing lobsters. Yeah, you can

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Speaker 1: tell me.

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Speaker 10: Your friend's husband told me that she is doing she's

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Speaker 10: doing because she didn't have the decency to say, hey

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Speaker 10: i'm doing, miss throw.

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Speaker 4: Killed, I'm what your husband's overseas serving his country, serving

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Speaker 4: our country, keeping us all safe forgets to entertain these

862
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 4: type of messages on your Facebook, and you've admitted that

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00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 4: you had a few indiscretions.

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Speaker 8: What is going on?

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Speaker 9: Twenty We were done, we were not together. We had

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Speaker 9: a phone conversation and he had said we're going to

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Speaker 9: get a divorce and I'll Sandy the divorce papers and

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Speaker 9: then we hung up and let me finish penty.

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Speaker 10: We got a phone argument, like you said on Skype,

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Speaker 10: and I told her, look, if you're gonna strip after

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Speaker 10: me and you, I've already gone through the discussion that

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Speaker 10: you're not to do it until I get back and

873
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 10: we might even we'll talk about it.

874
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 9: Then she says there was reasons why I needed to.

875
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

876
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 10: See, she says she needs she needed fun, and say,

877
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 10: our family over three a month living in four.

878
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 5: Wasn't even that much room.

879
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: Okay, you're on bro, where are you renting? Wait, he's

880
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: about four hundred dollars a month. Four hundred dollars a month.

881
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 1: I mean like probably like in the South or something,

882
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: you probably get pretty cheap. And this is maybe like

883
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 1: a few years ago.

884
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I say no, Santa Monica, run dude,

885
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 2: Like he's like more than providing.

886
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: What how much did he get a month? There's four

887
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: to five k tacks free, so all four to five

888
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: k of that is basically usable. It sounds like yeah,

889
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: and her rent is four hundred, so that means like

890
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: she would literally have to spend four hundred minus four

891
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: to five thousand dollars thirty six hundred bucks. So good,

892
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: thirty six to forty six hundred, So she had to

893
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: she had to spend thirty six to forty six not

894
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: not just spend that much.

895
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 2: Hey, but good on her for not asking for more

896
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 2: money doing and getting that old entrepreneurial spirit out there.

897
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, a real boss babe goes and gets her own money. Hey,

898
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: let's go with that. She shut up.

899
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 9: There are expenses when you have kids. The money that

900
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 9: was coming in, let's just be real, it wasn't enough

901
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 9: to support the kids.

902
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 8: And on top of that enough to support the kids.

903
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 8: How because I'm going to keep it.

904
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 5: Grand mom, I had to have.

905
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 4: Namely, this is what I'm trying to understand. Mister kill

906
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 4: you say you guys were done so in other words,

907
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 4: these things that he's fine on your Facebook indiscretions you're

908
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 4: telling him about this really shouldn't be an issue because

909
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 4: in your mind, you guys, you thought your marriage was

910
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 4: yes because you all had an argument about you stripping

911
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 4: and you hold.

912
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 9: Up, yes, your honor. We hung up and we said

913
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 9: it was done because I wanted to do what I

914
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 9: want to do.

915
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 8: We Okay, now we're getting to the truth. Okay.

916
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: Also, I love like she's wearing the Jesus Cross.

917
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 8: You wanted to do what you wanted to do?

918
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,959
Speaker 9: And why is it that you wanted because we got

919
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 9: married too young? Well I needed to because.

920
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: No, yes, grow God, he prepared that one prepared. He

921
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: probably has like a list of like five singers that

922
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: he's like, all right, if this villain comes on bro

923
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: the crowd like stand up in applod. Oh my god,

924
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: I want to hear that.

925
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 4: It definitely reacting is because I really want to know.

926
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 8: Always comment why.

927
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to go get it next to

928
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: job at.

929
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 4: The moment, Okay, I want together.

930
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 10: Since two thousand and eight, she hasn't started working until

931
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 10: actually about three weeks ago. Actually, first time Joe hooking

932
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 10: or stripping, not hooking. You're selling your body for money?

933
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 10: Hookerr no, it's anyway excuse me, wow yo, anyway whoa, whoa.

934
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 10: When I actually went out the day I was supposed

935
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 10: to come back home from overseas, we were told before

936
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 10: we even got on the plane, a former col Wisconsin

937
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 10: that there's going to be the color guard, the motorcycles

938
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 10: that drive, you know, in front.

939
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 5: The news was going to be there.

940
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 10: I get there and not my father, my mother, my wife,

941
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 10: Like I said, we'll quote that weren't even there. We

942
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 10: get there, you know, they call everyody's names off every

943
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 10: from clapping and cheering.

944
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 5: They come to my name and it's just dead quiet.

945
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: No one was there, so.

946
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 5: As everything to go home.

947
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 10: I'm sitting over there with my bags and I didn't

948
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 10: have a phone yet, so I couldn't even call her.

949
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 5: So I'm sitting there under sir breaking.

950
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 10: With my one my army bag of mynes one one

951
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 10: side in a suitcase on the other.

952
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 9: No, I was waiting in the car for thirty minutes.

953
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: Wait, you waited in the car.

954
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 4: So when they call his name, he says, no one

955
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 4: was there to clap or cheer.

956
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 8: Did you hear them call his name?

957
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: We weren't at the airport. We were.

958
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 9: I was waiting across from his unit where he told

959
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 9: me to wait and I sat there for thirty minutes waiting.

960
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 10: Actually, ma'am, two weeks before we came back from overseas,

961
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 10: my unit actually sent papers to all the family members

962
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 10: back home given the exact address and time and who

963
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 10: would be there at the time.

964
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 5: So it's not like somebody didn't know. She didn't know

965
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 5: where it was.

966
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 1: That where it was also receipts importantly.

967
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 5: Five Channel eight, Channel seven, Channel fourteen and eleven.

968
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 8: Did she eventually pick you up?

969
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 10: Actually, you know when she picked she came dressed in

970
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,959
Speaker 10: her clear hooker shoes.

971
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 8: And this that's one whole outfit.

972
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 5: That's I think that's a dress, is what they call it.

973
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: I don't know.

974
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 5: She's in clear shoes with money still in them.

975
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: Oh, clear shoes with money in this trip or and

976
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: then this dress that is oh and at this formal

977
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: military celebration and let me get on my you know,

978
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: like court legal, timeline Jazz. She said she was sitting

979
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: there for thirty minutes, so that means she was sitting

980
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: there and she could like she could have just thrown

981
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: like a like a T shirt or something like some

982
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: like leggings or I don't know something and then just

983
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: put on like like flats or something. But according to her,

984
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: she's sitting there. I guess if he's right, and she's right,

985
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: she's sitting there for thirty minutes in that and clear

986
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 1: shoes filled with money with singles.

987
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 7: You could have just taken out the singles. Dude, dude,

988
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 7: I like her style, like I one thing, this will.

989
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 2: She don't care about anything through honestly, like buck the system.

990
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: I do what I want. I am who I am,

991
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to change it.

992
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 5: No bit.

993
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: Listen, let your freak flag fly girl or yeah that's official. Yeah,

994
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: at least the divorce is coming soon. And see we'll

995
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: have any attachments the kids.

996
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 8: So you come home, mister threll Keil.

997
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, your wife.

998
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 8: And your family aren't there. But she eventually does pick

999
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 8: you up.

1000
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 4: So you were there and something to get him? Yes, Ron,

1001
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 4: So you're riding down the highway.

1002
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, she has her phone, and you know, I was

1003
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 10: wondering who because I saw the guy. She hadn't fully

1004
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 10: admitted that she's been seeing this guy. So I snatched

1005
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 10: the phone from her and I started going through it,

1006
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 10: and as I was looking through, there was a numb

1007
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 10: that she'd called like thirteen times. So I called him

1008
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 10: right back the phone. Hey, you know, I said, who

1009
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 10: is this you the one that's been my wife? He said, yes, yes,

1010
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 10: I've been.

1011
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: She starts laughing.

1012
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 5: He was just gon say that. He's just saying that

1013
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 5: to make you mad, and it was ridiculous. You know,

1014
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 5: that was just the only.

1015
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 4: So when he calls the guy on the phone, you

1016
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 4: deny and say okay.

1017
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 5: So we get back to the house and you're on

1018
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 5: her like throughout the night.

1019
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 10: I guess she had She had not gone over there

1020
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 10: for three or four days or so.

1021
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 5: And he texts her.

1022
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 10: And says, you know, I guess I figured now who

1023
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 10: you picked. And so she starts crying and I said,

1024
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 10: what are you crying?

1025
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 5: And she's like, she's like, my boyfriend?

1026
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 8: Why do you care?

1027
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 5: Why would you have a boyfriend if you're married?

1028
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: Paper?

1029
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 5: We were done?

1030
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: You have papers.

1031
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 9: Why do we have to have papers to be done?

1032
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 4: You said it was because in a marriage we were.

1033
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 1: Just Okay, wait, real talk. If you asked for a divorce,

1034
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: married till you get one, and I.

1035
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: Don't know, I think if you asked for a divorce

1036
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 2: like you're kind I think I think you're Yeah, I

1037
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 2: I where everyone's pilot on her by my my, my,

1038
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: my judge had uh says, if you ask for a divorce,

1039
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: I think you don't have the same level of commitment anymore.

1040
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I I honest, I think that's the only

1041
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: thing she said that's right. So far as like, okay,

1042
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: if you are if you are saying are you if

1043
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: you're saying like, hey, we're done, yeah, then then you

1044
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: are done. I mean, if that's been like verbally communicated,

1045
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: you know.

1046
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it doesn't Also like why was

1047
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 2: she if they were done, why is she like showing

1048
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 2: up to his graduation.

1049
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: That's a great point. And also it's just generally I

1050
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: don't know, Like, well, already shea she was cheating and

1051
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: stuff before because she had to have because the guy

1052
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: said like, oh yeah, we were messing around. We're now hikes, yikes.

1053
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 4: In your mind this was a mutual decision that you

1054
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 4: two were finished and we're heading for a divorce.

1055
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 8: Yes, until you get home and.

1056
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 4: Somehow being husband and wife again.

1057
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 8: Don't you.

1058
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 10: Yes, Oh, we actually had like makeup sex like within minutes.

1059
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: I love how Bashal is like.

1060
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 8: Vince that led to the conception.

1061
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 4: Actually, ma'am, your last child in which you feel you

1062
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 4: may or may not be the father.

1063
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 10: Well, when I was overseas, I fout out about her stripping.

1064
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: In baby baby's over here striking a pose, Yeah, but

1065
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: also the makeup sex that could have led to the

1066
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: kid on. So it's it's possible. Even though she's like

1067
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: in the wrong and like every possible way, it is

1068
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: still a possibility at this point that the child is his.

1069
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 2: So that's probably why she went to paternity court. He's

1070
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: so sure that it's one of the other not his kid.

1071
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: She's like, it could be here, your kid. Yeah, all right,

1072
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: all right, I get why everyone's here now, I get

1073
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: why we've gathered you all today.

1074
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 10: There's a few that came across my head of how

1075
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 10: I should deal with it. So when I got back home,

1076
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 10: within those first week or two, we had sex like

1077
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 10: four or five times a day, and I purposely.

1078
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 4: So you had it in your mind that if I

1079
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 4: get my wife pregnant, she'll stop stripping Roger, because that's.

1080
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:26,439
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that is the terrible logic aful. Also, you're

1081
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: in the paternity court to prove you're not the father. Yeah,

1082
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 1: this kind of goes to your case.

1083
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 5: Dog.

1084
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 2: Also, like they're both kind of shit. That's a pretty

1085
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: shitty thing to do.

1086
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 5: Day.

1087
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also there's plenty of pregnant strippers out there.

1088
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: Actually, and just just a case for a lot of

1089
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: like me, Oh, I know what, we'll save our relationship

1090
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: adding a child to this equation.

1091
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it only complicates it and makes it worse. As

1092
00:54:54,800 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 2: you are seeing we're in paternity court, like freaking uh

1093
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 2: relationship one oh one, don't let like your relationship is

1094
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: probably not going well.

1095
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: If you've landed in paternity court. Facts hit that play button.

1096
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 10: Kind of like how she just said I'm gonna strip

1097
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 10: and I'm gonna do whatever I want because I said,

1098
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 10: oh really, okay, I'll give.

1099
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 5: You no yeah on me, I mean so yeah.

1100
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: My god, regardless idiot idiot, oh yeah, regardless.

1101
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 4: Conversation that you're done. While you were overseas, you come

1102
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 4: back and you have in your mind, maybe if I

1103
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 4: could get her to stop stripping.

1104
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 8: We could maybe make it work. I get her.

1105
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 4: Pregnant, she can stay off the pole and stay in

1106
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 4: the house.

1107
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: In your judge, throwing major.

1108
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 9: Shape other expenses of having a child.

1109
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 8: The bottom line of your owner is I.

1110
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: Have all this kid.

1111
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 9: There are things you need to do regardless, and I

1112
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:53,879
Speaker 9: knew he wasn't gonna get a job.

1113
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 10: When he came back, you asked why we're here for

1114
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 10: a fraternity court.

1115
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 5: Within three weeks of us being home, she was pregnant.

1116
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 10: So I mean, I don't know if it was my devious,

1117
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 10: messed up head that got you know, got her pregnant

1118
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 10: or the dude.

1119
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 5: So that's that's the reason.

1120
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: Wow.

1121
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 4: Because the truth is, even though you had that plan

1122
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 4: in your mind that if I get her pregnant, that

1123
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 4: will be a professional hindrance, but he's.

1124
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 9: Saying about all the other costs that come along with

1125
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 9: that and responsibilities. Hence why we have three kings.

1126
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 4: You were also sleeping with another man during that same

1127
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 4: time period, so you didn't know as well.

1128
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 8: Yes, who could be the father? Now, mister throle.

1129
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 2: You is she just going raw with all these these guys?

1130
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I suspect the fact that it hasn't been

1131
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: mentioned means yeah.

1132
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 2: Yikes, bro, twenty other guys at least at least at

1133
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 2: least we.

1134
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: Need to find the inverse. I want to see the

1135
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 1: inverse of this scenario where it's like a woman. Let's see,

1136
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: what would the woman be the woman is uh, oh,

1137
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: she's like saving endangered puppies or something, and then the

1138
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: guy is like going around and sleeping with like forty

1139
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 1: women at a time.

1140
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 2: Bron edutating it all. Yeah, crucified, just like this woman

1141
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 2: is big.

1142
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 4: Your wife to take a lie detective test. At some point,

1143
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 4: am I correct?

1144
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 5: Yes? Man?

1145
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 10: Before she came back, I said, look, you know obviously

1146
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 10: is a good one. Yeah, either a threesome well deployed

1147
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 10: my insecurities. I would like you to take a lot

1148
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 10: of detective test. And she kept saying, oh ye that

1149
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 10: it's fine, I'll do it, you know the big deal.

1150
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 5: I don't.

1151
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: When it comes.

1152
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 10: Closer to to actually doing it, she starts, you know,

1153
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 10: getting nervous because you lie in her, boy, she was

1154
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 10: getting nervous.

1155
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 9: We just need communication.

1156
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: She tells me.

1157
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 5: Straight out what happened. She tells me straight out.

1158
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: We should we should tell that to like like enemies

1159
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: of the state that we're interrogating. It's like, yeah, we justification,

1160
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: just like hold down, have a nice cup of tea

1161
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: and just like talk it over. Yeah, yeah, that's the

1162
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: best way to do it. No paternity court.

1163
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 10: Every time about the people that she actually cheated on me,

1164
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 10: with right after our first daughter. She she cheated on

1165
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 10: me with a guy when she was going to a

1166
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 10: cosmetology school. On her way to cosmetology school, she goes

1167
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 10: to his house and a little bit before that he

1168
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 10: was taking pictures of both of us, and when she

1169
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 10: went there to go check the photos, she got a

1170
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 10: tour of the house and loom, behold, the tour ended

1171
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 10: at the room.

1172
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 4: So the photographer, what else did you find out?

1173
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 10: There was a friend of mine that we've been friends

1174
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 10: with for a couple of years, and when I went

1175
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 10: to a t I think it's either either anual training

1176
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 10: or drill. She was watching TV next to this one

1177
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 10: guy and she started falling asleep and next thing you know,

1178
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 10: he rolled over on her and she thought.

1179
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 9: It was sex with him.

1180
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 8: Mistaken identity.

1181
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: I guess he.

1182
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 9: Comes down to the point where I did make yes.

1183
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 8: But you said, that's not one mistake.

1184
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 9: He is verbally abusive emotion. He treads my daughter differently

1185
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 9: than the other.

1186
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: Of course he does because he thinks it's not his child,

1187
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: because you slept with like twenty other days. Brow Also

1188
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: the way she goes, oh, he's like verbally blah blah blah,

1189
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: like stop yo, stop man is holding back? Wow girl,

1190
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: well because he.

1191
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 4: Said he doubts that he may or may not be

1192
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 4: her father. Do you think honestly that he is the

1193
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 4: father of Lilliana?

1194
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 9: It could be a fifty to fifty chance.

1195
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 5: Honestly, anybody got a corner?

1196
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 4: Do you understand that I like that for any person

1197
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 4: that that would be really hard to accept. There is

1198
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 4: a part of me that listens to you both talk

1199
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 4: and sees that one, if not both.

1200
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 8: If you maybe still wants to make this work.

1201
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: Are you to no self respect.

1202
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 8: Trying to see if you could save.

1203
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: No, what are you doing now? Don't do it?

1204
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 4: She answered, very affirmatively quickly. How about you, mister thrill

1205
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 4: kill you?

1206
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 5: I would say yes, but.

1207
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 10: I've never even put in the shoes to where I

1208
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 10: would have to kid or you don't mean there are

1209
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 10: still a baby involved? I mean you can't just I'm

1210
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 10: not going to take it out on her, even if

1211
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 10: it's not mine, Even if it's not mine. No, the

1212
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 10: one of me to take it out on isn't hers,

1213
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 10: It's the one in the pink shirt. Congratulations.

1214
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: Everything to be clear here there you slept with twenty men.

1215
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 4: One baby in question, as it relates to the paternity

1216
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 4: but you all still have two additions together.

1217
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: That's the crazy because.

1218
01:00:55,520 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 4: Actually, so these results are going to affect in some

1219
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 4: way this family positively or negatively.

1220
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 8: All right, it's time for the reason now.

1221
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 2: I want it to be their kids. The family doesn't

1222
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 2: get screwed up. Oh god, dude, I'm so nervous.

1223
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: Nuts. Oh no, they really draw it out. It's the

1224
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: kid on the freaking screen, These kids there the whole time.

1225
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 4: Our results today were prepared by DNA Diagnostics shut out.

1226
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 8: In the case of throw versus throw.

1227
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: Killed, Oh god, fuck?

1228
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 8: Do you want to watch on TV?

1229
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 4: Go to Paternity Court TV to find your local listings.

1230
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 8: In the case of We're back.

1231
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 4: Killed versus throw killed pertaining to one year old Liliana.

1232
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 7: Mm hmmm, oh the kid. Oh you know this chick

1233
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 7: is crazy, y'all? Oh tell us you?

1234
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: Oh are Liliana's Bob? I don't know. I want to know.

1235
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: I feel good about that. I don't know how to

1236
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: feel it. I feel good about that instantly emotional.

1237
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 8: Is that relief or is that.

1238
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: That's good because now the family sticks together.

1239
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 8: It's all together.

1240
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 9: I'm happy because I know she's his, so I would

1241
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 9: like to work on everything.

1242
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 5: Man. There's there's a reason why.

1243
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 10: Because since the day it's happened, since February twenty eleven,

1244
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 10: to be exactly when I found.

1245
01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 5: Out this is there not been a day that's.

1246
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 10: Gone by that I haven't let her not relive the

1247
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 10: mistakes she made.

1248
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 5: Period.

1249
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 8: I appreciate your honesty.

1250
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 4: You were owning up to the fact that you would

1251
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 4: not let the mistake go.

1252
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 8: You threw it up in her face over and over

1253
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 8: and two years, two years.

1254
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 9: No other person would have stayed.

1255
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, tell you both.

1256
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 5: It's like we're stuck with each other.

1257
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: That's out of a movie. Wow, that's cute, bro.

1258
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 4: About this news is that the doubt, the fear associated

1259
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 4: with it is gone now, you know, and now they

1260
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 4: can have a happy family.

1261
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 10: Ever that I actually kind of disowned her and wow

1262
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 10: when she came around me, I called her JB other

1263
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 10: person's baby. Wow, Now that I know that she's not,

1264
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 10: you know, it's uh, it's good to know.

1265
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 4: You know now that you are her father and you've

1266
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 4: got a lot of making up to do.

1267
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 8: Okay, So.

1268
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 4: This marriage is the both of yours together.

1269
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 8: Marriage have to honor it.

1270
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: Co parents both have to not marriage and I think

1271
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna keep They're gonna keep marriage. I'm actually okay

1272
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: with that. Oh god, wow, I feel.

1273
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 5: Like that's my daughter now. And there's no wall of dividing.

1274
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 1: Seither fix their marriage. No, no, it's all happy. We're

1275
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: gonna have to talk about this, Okay, okay, okay.

1276
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 9: So.

1277
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: Yo. So he so here's the thing. So here's my thing. Right,

1278
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm also gonna take this of a maniac. So my

1279
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: thing is, yes, he like, you know, he made her

1280
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 1: like relive the mistake or whatever of like you know,

1281
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: potentially having this kid that's not theirs. Yeah, but she

1282
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: still cheated on him twenty times or whatever. So my

1283
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: thing is, like, it's even that aside, there's still so

1284
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: many other issues that like I don't think, yeah, she.

1285
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 2: Doesn't feel like she's truthful enough to be in a

1286
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 2: marriage that is like there's no found Yeah, there's no foundation.

1287
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: And like I do commend him. I do commend him

1288
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: for apologizing for the fact that he like held that

1289
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: over her head. It's like, oh, this isn't my child,

1290
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 1: this is my child. Oh fair, But to be like, okay,

1291
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 1: you know, now you have to like step up and

1292
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: blah Blah's like, no, no, he apologized, he's owning it

1293
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 1: and he should continue to do that. But she's still cheated

1294
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 1: on him twenty times and that does not make a

1295
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: good foundation. Further, like they should enter co parents at all.

1296
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 2: So I think our judgment. Get divorced, but coherent those

1297
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 2: kids to adulthood. Oh yeah, oh yeah