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Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale l. He
Speaker 1: is Matt Waves and it's just a drive one see
Speaker 1: which Nation Radio and Matt. I was thinking back to
Speaker 1: a year ago right around this time. Um, at that point,
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens were eight and three, okay, leading the
Speaker 1: division UM in the North. In fact, they had the
Speaker 1: number one record in the a f C at that time.
Speaker 1: I believe at eight and three sounds very possible. I mean,
Speaker 1: Tennessee end up getting the one. But then the Chiefs
Speaker 1: weren't you know, eleven and o or anything at that point.
Speaker 1: And Lamar was in m VP talks and you all
Speaker 1: that good, all that good stuff, and then he got
Speaker 1: hurt and then and then he got hurt. Um. The
Speaker 1: Ravens held a three and a half game eat over
Speaker 1: the Steelers at that point. One uh, six weeks later,
Speaker 1: the Steelers are nine seven and one in the Ravens
Speaker 1: rate and nine. I mean, this is what happens when
Speaker 1: you lose a great player. Is well, a couple of
Speaker 1: things that unpeeled there is. This season is far from over, folks.
Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned last segment exactly x amount of
Speaker 1: years ago, one day difference, you know against the Saints,
Speaker 1: all that stuff. I mean, it's hard to maintain greatness
Speaker 1: for seventeen plus games. That's kind of my point. So
Speaker 1: what what made me think of this was the situation
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, Like, if the Bills don't have Josh Allen
Speaker 1: right for even a month, even a month in the
Speaker 1: a f C, in that division where the loss already
Speaker 1: to Miami and the Jets like it's time to thanks
Speaker 1: to go south real quick. They play the Vikes this week.
Speaker 1: I think you're on top is better than I am,
Speaker 1: but I think they were open. His nine and a
Speaker 1: half point favorites that dropped immediately after after Sean McDermott
Speaker 1: talked today and said he did, I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: Josh's injury. He's gonna be limited all week. We'll see
Speaker 1: about the game. So do you three and a half
Speaker 1: it's in Buffalo, do you agree with me that if
Speaker 1: it's case Keenum, the Bills are a dog. They're not
Speaker 1: team obviously. I mean it's it becomes a I mean
Speaker 1: much more of a yeah, right, I mean that's not
Speaker 1: the one loss, was it. They'll be now the Vikings
Speaker 1: will now be the team. Remember we talked about this
Speaker 1: last week. Does any team play both Philadelphia and Buffalo
Speaker 1: in their places, it would be the Vikings. But unfortunately,
Speaker 1: without Josh completely changes the equation. If you don't think so,
Speaker 1: look at the Ravens last year with him without Lamar, right,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't I'm not predicting this or thinking
Speaker 1: it's you know, probable, but the Bills could miss the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, if he doesn't play, they look the number
Speaker 1: one in the power rank. So it saw what they did,
Speaker 1: the Steelers ripping through the league. If he is six
Speaker 1: weeks or you know, the school said and says this
Speaker 1: needs surgery, it's not. I mean, he's yes already, you know,
Speaker 1: he's there, leading passer. It's also the leading rusher, right,
Speaker 1: he's there, He's there, not the number one rushing threat.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like what Lamar was exactly exactly. And
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if we had this conversation yesterday or not,
Speaker 1: but again I was calling it rich guy problems. Everyone
Speaker 1: would change, you know, many people, all of our listeners
Speaker 1: would change offensive production with the Bills, of course, but
Speaker 1: as great teams go, they're so dependent on Alan of course,
Speaker 1: and digs, But like, who else is a really good
Speaker 1: player on that offense? You know, like Davis to me,
Speaker 1: the offensive lines average, I mean, it's good. Then they
Speaker 1: run the ball okay when they need to. Dawson Knox
Speaker 1: is fine. But they have two stars, I mean, they
Speaker 1: have two great players, and then they have a bunch
Speaker 1: of B minuses and stuff. You know that they could
Speaker 1: come back to earth quickly on offense if either one
Speaker 1: of those guys is does the Lamar routine, I mean,
Speaker 1: and one of them looks like it might be doing
Speaker 1: the Lainar. It just shows how quickly things can change
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I mean, one part of the season
Speaker 1: is not like the next. No, not at all at all.
Speaker 1: Based in the quarters for a reason, for a reason,
Speaker 1: and you don't. I mean, and even like some of
Speaker 1: these stats, I do, the stuff that happened in week
Speaker 1: two that influences them isn't all that important, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, and I think most people listening know this.
Speaker 1: But as a rule of thumb, when you prepare for
Speaker 1: a team, they're not watching week one of what the
Speaker 1: Saints did? You know they watched the last four games,
Speaker 1: give or take, you know, and really base it off
Speaker 1: of that to your new tendencies. Are these coaches change
Speaker 1: all the time? Who got injured? How do you adapt? Oh? It,
Speaker 1: teams are blitzing you like crazy. How's that working? But
Speaker 1: they did in the beginning of the year or whatever
Speaker 1: it is, so yeah, it changes very quickly. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just it's just very interesting. Um. The other thing I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about here, Matt, real quick, if you
Speaker 1: were if you're Buffalo and you were in the FC
Speaker 1: or NFC South, you'd feel a lot better. Josh it down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, take a month and we'll still You're in
Speaker 1: the East and you've you've only got a one game lead.
Speaker 1: The Bills are the only team in the division who
Speaker 1: don't have a division win right, right division? And both
Speaker 1: those teams earned it. They were They wasn't flukey. I
Speaker 1: mean the Miami one was odd, but it wasn't flukey.
Speaker 1: You could easily be third in that division when it
Speaker 1: said and done, and hoping the Chargers loose to get
Speaker 1: in the war. Yeah, it's just it's just very precarious.
Speaker 1: They looked vulnerable, and they looked it's kind of part
Speaker 1: of the problem with having these quarterbacks who carries so
Speaker 1: much of the weight on the team. I mean the
Speaker 1: Lamar's that Josh Allen's even to a certain degree ma
Speaker 1: Homes because they don't run the ball particularly well. What
Speaker 1: you threw sixty eight passes or something. Take that out
Speaker 1: of the equation and in a way, I mean they're
Speaker 1: different styles. But the Bucks and Packers and were so
Speaker 1: dependent on their eight quarterback. When he turns from an
Speaker 1: aid to be like, well, the offense goes from an
Speaker 1: A minus to see you know when you get your
Speaker 1: thoughts on this. So I looked these up today. Earlier today,
Speaker 1: in there were eight quarterbacks in the league who averaged
Speaker 1: less than six point five yards per passe attempt and
Speaker 1: thirteen who are under seven yards per passe attempt. This
Speaker 1: year there are eleven quarterbacks, eleven quarterbacks who are under
Speaker 1: six and a half yards perpassit attempt, and nineteen who
Speaker 1: are under seven yards perpassit attempt. It absolutely adds up.
Speaker 1: The defense is sweeping the league is the fangio. What
Speaker 1: he kind of does is that they play with lighter boxes,
Speaker 1: and they asked their front to play a gap and
Speaker 1: a half. It used to be YOURR one gap team,
Speaker 1: your two gap teams. Now they kind of cheat and
Speaker 1: do both and you're not so great against the run,
Speaker 1: so be it. We are not allowing big plays. We're
Speaker 1: gonna play so much too high cover for cover to um,
Speaker 1: you know, a deep shell. Explosives are killing, you know,
Speaker 1: is what all the defensive coordinators are fear the most.
Speaker 1: And as a result, though I think this hurts the
Speaker 1: Steelers a little bit. There's some teams out there that
Speaker 1: are benefiting Atlanta, Chicago, the Giant, the Browns, you know
Speaker 1: that aren't super talented and don't really care about the
Speaker 1: big play. Daniel Jones isn't hitting Wandell Robinson on eight
Speaker 1: yard ers anyway. So these defenses have adapted, and some
Speaker 1: of the lesser put that in quotes, but they're flat
Speaker 1: out lesser. I mean, the Giants, Atlanta Bears, they are
Speaker 1: very many good players, but they're running the crap out
Speaker 1: of the ball and they're keeping their head more than
Speaker 1: above water. Yeah exactly. So you know, I actually wrote
Speaker 1: an article about that earlier in the year. If the
Speaker 1: Steelers could get some kind of running game, they're not
Speaker 1: really that way. I mean, do you want to feature
Speaker 1: Deonte and Friar Muth and all these guys, But it's
Speaker 1: not like they're gonna be hitting big plays, and they're not.
Speaker 1: But if you had a serious ground game that was
Speaker 1: two levels better than it's been, you would be causing
Speaker 1: a lot more problems. The other the other part of
Speaker 1: the equation with this, So scoring is down across the lee.
Speaker 1: There's one team right now averaging more than thirty points
Speaker 1: per game in the league. It's the Chiefs. The Chiefs
Speaker 1: are over thirty. There are ten teams scoring twenty or less. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the league hates that. Yeah. And again in you
Speaker 1: had five teams that averaged more than thirty points per
Speaker 1: game and you had just four under twenty was a
Speaker 1: COVID year though that was a little that was higher
Speaker 1: than ever. But people started, but people, the coaching staffs
Speaker 1: adjusted and started playing more that that we're not going
Speaker 1: to give this up. And you know, even last year
Speaker 1: you'd see that kind of stuff. Again, it's the Bills
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs, you know, and Mahomes and Allen and
Speaker 1: those type of guys you know, had to learn to
Speaker 1: brady their way down the field and think and dunk.
Speaker 1: Now it's everybody. Everybody hasn't. Yeah, Yeah, Like the Bengals
Speaker 1: got tons of single high last year and they just
Speaker 1: throw bombs that chased down the sidel Now they never
Speaker 1: see single high and the other thing that that does
Speaker 1: now because quarterbacks are again averaging less than seven yards
Speaker 1: per passe attempt, h you've gotta you've gotta matriculate the
Speaker 1: ball down the field. And if you make a mistake
Speaker 1: a holding penalty, a sack, a turnover, obviously, um, you're
Speaker 1: not scoring right right. Yeah, And what's kind of interesting
Speaker 1: to me is I mentioned Brady, the old dude should
Speaker 1: be good at that because they've been around the block
Speaker 1: and they'll take what you've given them. But the old
Speaker 1: guys aren't playing very well. And I don't think it's
Speaker 1: because of the way the defense are playing, and I
Speaker 1: think they all got old, basically Rogers in particular. But
Speaker 1: it's just it's just interesting. I mean, you know, the
Speaker 1: league that would love I mean, we're gonna do a
Speaker 1: fantasy segment next segment. Everyone that plays fantasy knows scoring
Speaker 1: is down, and it's it's harder than ever. You don't
Speaker 1: putting up big weeks. I think the league would like
Speaker 1: more scoring, obviously. The one thing I think is they
Speaker 1: should look at like now though, is all the illegal
Speaker 1: men down fields. I keep tweeting that out like they
Speaker 1: made it a point of emphasis this year, and that's great.
Speaker 1: If if if scoring his school, you know, pete teams
Speaker 1: are scoring like crazy and you get a five year penalty.
Speaker 1: You don't care, but you're typically negating some kind of
Speaker 1: positive plan because it's an easy completion. Yeah, right right,
Speaker 1: it's catching run. That's what they're gonna give you. You're
Speaker 1: gonna you know, and you're taking that off the board,
Speaker 1: and you're you're you're taking a five yard penalty, and
Speaker 1: you know again if you're not. Yeah, and if you're
Speaker 1: averaging seven yards of a pass attempt and you only
Speaker 1: complete two out of three, you're punning. I say, this
Speaker 1: is probably too much, but I mean the root of
Speaker 1: all the problem, in my opinion is the D lines
Speaker 1: are so much better than the old lines in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Roger Gal would never sit to Pody and be like, wow,
Speaker 1: the old lines aren't there as good as D lines.
Speaker 1: They massage things to make life easier, like the two
Speaker 1: thousand twenty year when holding the right right, you know,
Speaker 1: so to hurt the offense with this point of emphasis,
Speaker 1: and these point of emphasis is are always highly emphasized
Speaker 1: and they're not gently, but typically when they'll they'll emphasize
Speaker 1: it for like the first month of the season and
Speaker 1: then scale it back. I haven't seen that happen. I've
Speaker 1: seen I've seen at least when a legal man downfield
Speaker 1: call in every game that I've seen this year. Everyone yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes they'll be like, we're gonna be tighter
Speaker 1: on defensive holding or whatever it is, and the players adapt,
Speaker 1: and the and the and the refs also over emphasized
Speaker 1: it in the preseason and call everything close. But the
Speaker 1: problem with this one is the old lineman don't know
Speaker 1: it's r p os. They don't know that their eyes
Speaker 1: are forward, they don't know if the ball got handed
Speaker 1: off or thrown. I mean, they're blocking their guy downfield.
Speaker 1: Should I sit here and just let him go free?
Speaker 1: You know? Right? They might need to let that slide.
Speaker 1: And if I would like them, see I'd like to
Speaker 1: see them adjuster rule. Right now, it's one yard downfield,
Speaker 1: one yard downfield for guys who are six five, it's
Speaker 1: one step. That's one step the last Yeah, how about
Speaker 1: how about two or three yards? You know? Or just yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: And I think that's perfect. I don't want guys running downfield. No,
Speaker 1: I don't want that, but I to you. I mean again,
Speaker 1: two steps is and the other part that's that much
Speaker 1: of an advantage. Yeah, that's the other thing. And it's
Speaker 1: supposed to be as we saw in the game against
Speaker 1: the Browns. With the Steelers, uh, if if the alignement
Speaker 1: is engaged with a blot with a rusher, if you
Speaker 1: take your guy and you shove him, if you do,
Speaker 1: that shouldn't be a call. The situation for the Steelers
Speaker 1: in that game was that the guy got hurt. He
Speaker 1: went down. Um, you know, and what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: I mean, he got beat. You're there, you're there that
Speaker 1: you're engaged, and all of a sudden he just crumples
Speaker 1: and now you're standing there with nothing. You know, Oh
Speaker 1: I got no. I mean, as mentioned the old lines,
Speaker 1: jobs it enough as it is. And now I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's a run or a pass and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get flagged. And I do have perfect ham position.
Speaker 1: I came off the ball great, but I can't dry
Speaker 1: this guy at the two bared off field or flag
Speaker 1: is gonna hit me in the back. You know, if
Speaker 1: it's a running play right exactly, you know it's an
Speaker 1: r p O and they could be running behind you
Speaker 1: and you want to create the hole. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: don't because I'm worried about the flag, like it's a
Speaker 1: little sticky. I'm not sure how the NFL should fix it,
Speaker 1: but to your suggestion, at least to say two yards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe that cuts out. It's an imaginary line
Speaker 1: to begin with. Like you know, the officials are going
Speaker 1: to call, you know, they're calling that. Um they're looking
Speaker 1: at it? Is that a yard? Is that a yard
Speaker 1: and a half? Is that? You know? It's such an
Speaker 1: arbitrary rule. It is, and clearly not that anyone cares anymore.
Speaker 1: But like go watch Nighties tape of or nineties when
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly's in the shotgun, those tackles aren't like three
Speaker 1: yards off the ball either, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like it looks like a line, you know, now, it's
Speaker 1: like a flying v exactly. So they are helping these
Speaker 1: guys because they're not on the ballot. Who were even
Speaker 1: kidding the tackles in some of those situations. Yeah, their
Speaker 1: their head is supposed to be the rule is now
Speaker 1: that their head has to be at the guy next
Speaker 1: to them belly button, his waist. I didn't know that
Speaker 1: it has to be even with his waist. So they're
Speaker 1: they're they're giving you the flying you can look like
Speaker 1: geese flying south from the winner. Um. Some of the
Speaker 1: teams though, it's like wow, Yeah, I mean the Steelers
Speaker 1: they get called a couple of times for that in
Speaker 1: the game. A couple of weeks ago was that in Miami.
Speaker 1: I think they get called for it twice. I think
Speaker 1: the core four got hit with it once and more
Speaker 1: got hit with it once. Um. Interesting, but some of
Speaker 1: the arbitrary you know, one one crew calls it, the
Speaker 1: next crew doesn't. That kind of stuff that happens. Um,
Speaker 1: you know's it's just it drives me crazy. But but
Speaker 1: it's such a great game. It's a hard one to officiate.
Speaker 1: It's a hard one to write rules for compared to
Speaker 1: hockey and baseball and things like that. But scoring being down,
Speaker 1: I promise changes next year, so they'll adjust that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna go. You know what, we gotta get rid
Speaker 1: of that rule. We gotta get you now you get
Speaker 1: play with twelve. Yeah, go back to emphasizing defensive holding
Speaker 1: and things of that nature to you know, pump up
Speaker 1: the offensive numbers. But I bet deep down, I mean,
Speaker 1: the guys that know that are really in charge of
Speaker 1: the league are like, man, this is a potential problem.
Speaker 1: We get in front of it. Yeah, I mean, do
Speaker 1: you talk about all those Thursday night games have been
Speaker 1: blocked offensively? Well, okay, let's let's get some scoring, you know,
Speaker 1: even if it's two bad teams. But they play in
Speaker 1: the thirties and seeing big plays, and you know, I
Speaker 1: think Sports Center highlights aren't as good as it used
Speaker 1: to be. It's not Tyreek Hill split in the safeties
Speaker 1: and you know, big plays left and right. You know.
Speaker 1: So everyone's justin how they play, and that's not unique
Speaker 1: in this league. I mean when you have guys like
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert averaging less of seven yeards for past attempt
Speaker 1: that's not good for the game of the game. I
Speaker 1: mean he's a true star. Yeah, I mean, that's like
Speaker 1: a young bad you know, young Dominique Wilkins. And some
Speaker 1: of that's because their offensive line stinks as well, and
Speaker 1: they've had some injury to it. Still, it's not what
Speaker 1: they want problem looking like stars. And this year's down
Speaker 1: a third of the league averaging less than twenty points
Speaker 1: a game. Yeah, a third of the league is basically
Speaker 1: considered low scoring. Yeah, I mean that's that's not a
Speaker 1: barn burner at all. The only people that liked these
Speaker 1: kind of games is Vegas because nobody bets, then everybody
Speaker 1: likes us. They all bet the overs because they want points.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're close to the same age we were born.
Speaker 1: Understand the seventies and great defense A nine six games
Speaker 1: fine for me as a viewer if it's great defense.
Speaker 1: But like watching Colts Broncos Onday, that was not great defense. Offense,
Speaker 1: just bad, bad, bad. That kind of stuff needs to go.
Speaker 1: And I mean I can stay on a soapbox all
Speaker 1: day that I think thurs Day football is just a
Speaker 1: lesser product, period. But it's not going anywhere. It's not
Speaker 1: going anywhere, no, of course not. I mean, it makes
Speaker 1: big money. We all watch, you know, I get it,
Speaker 1: it's a lesser. Same thing with the with the games overseas.
Speaker 1: I mean those are typically kind, man, because one team,
Speaker 1: you know, one or both teams are dragging because they've
Speaker 1: they've flown all night to get there. Seattle plays at
Speaker 1: six am their time. This week against Tampa. It's still
Speaker 1: nine am for Tampa. It's still nine am for Tampa.
Speaker 1: But Seattle's not go into a Wednesday. They're they're probably
Speaker 1: on a flight right now. I would love to see
Speaker 1: them that game in any other some neutral spot in America,
Speaker 1: because I think Seattle is better than Tampa. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it should be like the To me, I
Speaker 1: think the Union needs to step in on that one
Speaker 1: and say no, you both teams have to go over
Speaker 1: for the entire week. Because I can tell you this.
Speaker 1: You know, when the Steelers played in London, they flew
Speaker 1: over after practice on Thursday, so they practiced, they had
Speaker 1: their regular practice on Thursday, their regular workday on Thursday,
Speaker 1: flew overnight, got to got to London Friday morning their time,
Speaker 1: London London time, and then had a normal work day
Speaker 1: that day. I mean, I was, I was out of it.
Speaker 1: You said by kickoff you did not Sunday. I still
Speaker 1: didn't feel right. You know, Saturday, let alone, Friday and
Speaker 1: Saturday were wasted. What's definitely gonna happen to Seattle this
Speaker 1: week and without probably Tampa as well. But you're playing
Speaker 1: at six am and your time. Nobody plays football at
Speaker 1: that time, right, even if you're in college football. You
Speaker 1: know they're not putting you on this the Thursday game
Speaker 1: of the week on on of course weird stuff and
Speaker 1: it's a lot of travel. It's a lot of travel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think the the the Union um needs
Speaker 1: to step in and say something about that. Just I
Speaker 1: think it's it becomes a safety issue. It absolutely does
Speaker 1: tired players. The other thing, I've been harper on this
Speaker 1: for years and I'm not smart enough to figure out
Speaker 1: the schedule, but I could. I'm sure even if it
Speaker 1: means eliminating a preseason game. You could have a seventeen
Speaker 1: game schedule in nineteen weeks and give everyone two buys
Speaker 1: and no one plays on one practice going into Thursday.
Speaker 1: I remember the year when they had they had a
Speaker 1: couple of years there where they had the double buys
Speaker 1: and it just was too much. It stretched. This was
Speaker 1: a weird week for us. Yeah, as as fans to
Speaker 1: have a team. I mean, I see what you're saying,
Speaker 1: But a true player safety like you would never go
Speaker 1: overseas what they do now those they give you that
Speaker 1: built in week after the preseason, so you get the
Speaker 1: week off, but you still got the extra week to
Speaker 1: to kind of heal up and get ready after the preseason.
Speaker 1: I would by if you're playing Thursday night, you had
Speaker 1: a buy already. Now you're pushing the super Bowl back
Speaker 1: in the mid February, Well, don't give him that week
Speaker 1: that they that off week. You almost have to do
Speaker 1: that because they don't want to They don't want to
Speaker 1: play games on Labor Day weekend. Right, I guess that
Speaker 1: is one of the issues too. Again, I must more
Speaker 1: enough to figure out schedule. But I mean I think
Speaker 1: two buys could get could be done. I don't know,
Speaker 1: Oh it could be done. But again, you'll be playing
Speaker 1: the super Bowl in the middle of February. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess so, I mean you push it back, and you
Speaker 1: know that's that's stretching the season out then too long
Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean, it's already a bit of
Speaker 1: a problem with me. Is NFC Championship game in Green
Speaker 1: Bay is like you know what I mean, like it's
Speaker 1: two wintry Yeah, you know, especially if you're you're not
Speaker 1: even sitting out plan on it. But right, and that
Speaker 1: to me, that's at you are one of those watchers
Speaker 1: that like you do virtual reality watching, so you leave
Speaker 1: the doors and windows open on your house and it's
Speaker 1: like that get a brought that gets gold in two
Speaker 1: seconds freezes up. But there are some league wide issues underneath. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we're halfway into this now that it's you know,
Speaker 1: early in the season, it's like, well, scoring is down
Speaker 1: a little bit behind defense. Now it's obvious. Now it's
Speaker 1: just obvious. Yeah, And there's it's not as high flying
Speaker 1: of a of a sport right now. Yeah, when you're
Speaker 1: halfway through the season and one third of your teams
Speaker 1: aren't averaging twenty points of game and there's only one
Speaker 1: averaging thirty one one, right, and that's uncommon. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: we know like Buffalo and Philadelphia have good offenses, teams
Speaker 1: like that that they can score, and folks, the Steelers
Speaker 1: aren't a good offense. Right This hasn't helped either, not
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