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Speaker 1: And uh I did see this headline NFL defensive coordinator quote.
Speaker 1: I don't give a bleep if Lamar Jackson wins MVP
Speaker 1: twelve times, will never be a Tier one quarterback. I'll
Speaker 1: give you a little backdrop on how they go about
Speaker 1: finding somebody to say something and all he needs one guy.
Speaker 1: If you ask forty guys in the NFL and you
Speaker 1: just send it out in a blast, like you just say, hey,
Speaker 1: what do you think of Lamar Jackson as a Tier
Speaker 1: one quarterback? All you want is somebody anonymously to say
Speaker 1: just what this person said. We'll have that for you
Speaker 1: coming up. Let's see anything else needs to be mentioned
Speaker 1: before we get to the Notre Dame head coach Marcus Freeman,
Speaker 1: the Brickyard Weekend, NBC in Peacock. So it's Saturday, Indiecar
Speaker 1: Sunday as NASCAR, the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, the Brickyard Weekend, NBC,
Speaker 1: and Peacock. He is the head coach at Notre Dame,
Speaker 1: I believe, a former fifth round draft pick of the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. He's Marcus Freeman. Back on the program, coach.
Speaker 1: Serious question to start out? How much do you mentioned
Speaker 1: these days? I don't know. I do things for reps now,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if I'm lifting for a
Speaker 1: peak number like I did when I'm playing. But um,
Speaker 1: I like to rep out maybe two twenty five a
Speaker 1: couple of times? All right, I like that. That's that's
Speaker 1: combined weight. You know how many times can you do
Speaker 1: two twenty five? What's your all time one rep? Oh?
Speaker 1: It was a close to four hundred when I was
Speaker 1: in college. Okay. Uh. The strongest player, strongest player you've
Speaker 1: ever been around? Strongest player, UM, James Lorenitis might have
Speaker 1: been one. Uh, he was a strong player. Um. Trying
Speaker 1: to think he's the one off the top of my head,
Speaker 1: probably James. I'm talking about total bench squad everything. Okay, Uh,
Speaker 1: what do you remember about that two thousand and nine
Speaker 1: when you were drafted? Was it fifth round by the Bears? Yep?
Speaker 1: What do you remember? Remember? I remember being a long day. Um,
Speaker 1: you know. And that's what I tell all these guys that,
Speaker 1: you know, I get a chance to coach that have
Speaker 1: hopes of of getting drafted, and I say, if you're
Speaker 1: not the first overall draft pick, you're waiting longer than
Speaker 1: you would expect, so try to figure out something to do.
Speaker 1: I remember waiting and waiting. But when you get the
Speaker 1: phone call, it's a dream come true. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: where you're drafted. When you get a call to say, hey,
Speaker 1: we're drafting you to whatever team it is, it's definitely
Speaker 1: a dream come true. And you don't worry about what
Speaker 1: what that position was. What was it like when they
Speaker 1: told you bring us your playbook? It was a reality check,
Speaker 1: you know. And that's as one of many failures that
Speaker 1: you have to overcome. And at some point, no matter
Speaker 1: if it's after year one or training camp one or
Speaker 1: year fifteen, the NFL is going to retire you because
Speaker 1: they don't want you anymore. You know a lot of
Speaker 1: people say they retire from the NFL. The majority of
Speaker 1: the time the NFL retires you. All right, let's get
Speaker 1: down to business. You open up with the Ohio State.
Speaker 1: When did you start watching tape on Ohio State. I
Speaker 1: would say sometime probably after spring after our spring game,
Speaker 1: and I had a couple of minutes to watch him film,
Speaker 1: you know, and definitely would would put them on. But listen,
Speaker 1: I've been watching Ohio State for many years just because
Speaker 1: you know, obviously I'm a fan. Did you grow up
Speaker 1: an Ohio State fan? I did. I was from Dayton, Ohio,
Speaker 1: which is about forty five minutes fifty minutes from Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 1: My father was from Columbus, Ohio, So I grew up
Speaker 1: in Ohio State fan. Uh okay, Well that's gonna be
Speaker 1: interesting though, playing the Ohio State at Ohio State. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it will, you know. Fortunate for me, I've been back
Speaker 1: there on the visiting sideline probably two or three years
Speaker 1: ago when I was at Cincinnati, and you know, so
Speaker 1: I don't know where to go. I know, the locker
Speaker 1: room decided the field to go to so at least
Speaker 1: I had that experience. Who came up with the idea
Speaker 1: for the new uniform reveal as you guys tapped into
Speaker 1: the Hangover, it was somebody in our Fighting Irish We
Speaker 1: have this our own media department called Fighting Irish Media,
Speaker 1: and uh, they're so creative. And all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I thought we were just going to Vegas to you know,
Speaker 1: show some of our current players the new jerseys, and
Speaker 1: they said, no, we're gonna We're gonna act out this Hangover,
Speaker 1: the Hangover parody. And it was a crazy experience. You know,
Speaker 1: as I tell many people, I didn't get into this
Speaker 1: profession to act, but um I think after take two
Speaker 1: or three you start getting frustrated and you just hey,
Speaker 1: acting is really just being how you really feel. And
Speaker 1: so uh it was. It was a cool experience for
Speaker 1: me and the players. That's good. Yeah, it was fun
Speaker 1: and the uniforms look great. Uh. What are the advantages
Speaker 1: of still being an independent football team? Well, I think
Speaker 1: you get to play a schedule that that is truly
Speaker 1: coast to coast um and that's what makes us unique.
Speaker 1: And you feel like you have a great opportunity every
Speaker 1: year to make the playoff as long as you win
Speaker 1: the games that you have to win, um and it
Speaker 1: gives these young people exposure all over the country and
Speaker 1: you play great own it's every week. How much, say
Speaker 1: will you have in the schedule moving forward at Notre Dame?
Speaker 1: Not much at all. And that's not really what I'm
Speaker 1: learned about. You know, I told our ad you let
Speaker 1: us know who we're playing, and we'll have the team
Speaker 1: ready to go. And so our athletic director and our president,
Speaker 1: father Jenkins, have done an unbelievable job at continuing to
Speaker 1: help this program be at the forefront of college football
Speaker 1: and of athletics, and so I really rely on them
Speaker 1: to make those big decisions about conferences and make those
Speaker 1: decisions about opponents and those things. And my job and
Speaker 1: my focus is to get this team ready. Let's say
Speaker 1: your athletic director said, Marcus, what do you think about
Speaker 1: joining a conference? What do you think about joining the
Speaker 1: Big Ten? What would you say? I would say, is
Speaker 1: that what you feel is best for our program? And
Speaker 1: if he said yes or being full support, it's a
Speaker 1: good thing to say, smart man, how many teams should
Speaker 1: we have? Having the playoffs? They've they've talked about you know,
Speaker 1: different numbers here, but what do you think would be
Speaker 1: fair equitable to the number of schools playing football. I
Speaker 1: don't have an exact number, but I would say the
Speaker 1: more the better, and the more opportunities these college football
Speaker 1: programs have to make the playoffs. I think it's better
Speaker 1: for college football. What role do you play a name,
Speaker 1: image and likeness at Notre Dame to maximize it for
Speaker 1: our student athletes? And you know, name image and likeness
Speaker 1: is great for our current players, and I think Notre
Speaker 1: Dame offers them unique opportunities to truly maximize it in
Speaker 1: terms of the brands that were associated with. But as
Speaker 1: I tell them all the time, the better football player
Speaker 1: you are, the more name image and likeness opportunities you'll get.
Speaker 1: And so my focus is to continue to help them
Speaker 1: be better football players and let our name image and
Speaker 1: likeness team kind of figure out those opportunities for them.
Speaker 1: Isn't it strange though, when you think about you know,
Speaker 1: if I said when you're in Cincinnati here, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be a head coach at Notre Dame, by the way,
Speaker 1: you gotta you're gonna deal with name, image and likeness
Speaker 1: as part of your job. Yeah, That's one of many
Speaker 1: things that I wasn't expecting when I became the head coach.
Speaker 1: You know, there's there's so many different things that you
Speaker 1: learn when you becoming the head coach at a place
Speaker 1: like Notre Dame about what it really means to be
Speaker 1: a head coach of a place like this, And name,
Speaker 1: image and likeness is one, and academics is another, and
Speaker 1: you know, conference independence is another. But ultimately it comes
Speaker 1: down to making sure that you give these young people
Speaker 1: every opportunity you can to have success. And that's in name, image, likeness,
Speaker 1: that's in football, that's in development for the NFL and
Speaker 1: many other things. Is there any remnants of Brian Kelly
Speaker 1: in your office there, Like is it a total makeover? No? No,
Speaker 1: the death, I'm sure it's still where coach Kelly had it. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, the pain is still the same way. We
Speaker 1: didn't need to change too much. Any pictures that are
Speaker 1: still up there with coach. Yeah, there's picture coaching around.
Speaker 1: What he's done for what he did for our program
Speaker 1: was tremendous and we I don't think you're doing Notre
Speaker 1: Dame or Brian Kelly a service if you try to
Speaker 1: erase him and that's not what we want to do. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, he sent me all of his coaching gear.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, he sent me. He sent me his showers, slippers.
Speaker 1: It was like a garage. So he sent me some
Speaker 1: golf balls, He sent me visors. You know, we got pullovers,
Speaker 1: and because I said, what are you gonna do with it?
Speaker 1: And he goes, I don't know, I'll send it to you.
Speaker 1: And he did. Sent me a whole box full of
Speaker 1: Notre Dame gear. You know what. That's awful. Nice to him. Man,
Speaker 1: you need more. Let me want to do some more. Coach,
Speaker 1: good to talk to you. Can't wait for opening day
Speaker 1: against Ohio State. Thanks for joining us, all right, damn,
Speaker 1: thanks for having that's Marcus Free? Is it Cincinnati? Now
Speaker 1: he's already coached one game, lost Oklahoma. I think they
Speaker 1: lost by two at a big lead, lost Oklahoma. Yeah, point,
Speaker 1: that's a monster for September three. You kind of sleep
Speaker 1: on Labor Day weekend. You got you're easing into the season.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, it's first week ish of college football.
Speaker 1: You got primetime Notre Dame at Ohio State. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: doesn't happen a lot. That one. You got Clemson, you
Speaker 1: got USC in there, so you have now you could
Speaker 1: lose to Ohio State, don't get blown out by Ohio State.
Speaker 1: And if you you want to lose, if you're losing,
Speaker 1: lose early and a quality loss certain helps out here.
Speaker 1: But you got Clemson in USC there. And so it's
Speaker 1: a challenging schedule. But we're still waiting to see what's
Speaker 1: happening with the Big Ten media rights because and Notre
Speaker 1: Dame with NBC, because it feels like if Notre Dame
Speaker 1: has a price, and it was reportedly like seventy five
Speaker 1: million dollars, but NBC only gets the home games. The
Speaker 1: road games are televised by some body else. ABC is
Speaker 1: going to have the Ohio State game. But I wonder
Speaker 1: at some point when there is no deal yet with
Speaker 1: NBC or with the Big Ten, is that going to
Speaker 1: lead to Notre Dame is going to be joining the
Speaker 1: Big Ten? Yeah? More more importantly the uniforms, Yeah, for
Speaker 1: schools like Order Dame in Oklahoma and Bama. Is that
Speaker 1: a recruiting Is that a recruiting tool? Like look on
Speaker 1: this big game will wear well? I think the video
Speaker 1: was you know that they had fun with it. But
Speaker 1: I can only I can only bring up what was
Speaker 1: told to me with certain recruits didn't want to wear
Speaker 1: certain shoes basketball schools where they'd say are you an
Speaker 1: Adida's school or a Nike school? And you'd have players
Speaker 1: who didn't want to play wearing those shoes. As crazy
Speaker 1: as that may sound, Yeah, is that because the shoe
Speaker 1: companies had already bought them a few years earlier? Actually
Speaker 1: there is a yeah. Yeah, it's like didn't we pay
Speaker 1: for you in eighth grade? Like why am I? You know?
Speaker 1: Remember your AAU team that was paid for by Nike. Well,
Speaker 1: now you're going to a Nike school. Adam Schefter is
Speaker 1: reporting that Todd Bowles, Buccaneers head coach, said at his
Speaker 1: press conference today, they're great center Ryan Jensen suffered a
Speaker 1: knee injury at practice. Had to be helped off the field.
Speaker 1: We don't know the severity, but that's a big loss.
Speaker 1: Ryan Jensen's tough player, great player. But keep an eye
Speaker 1: on them. All right, we'll take a break. Well, I'll
Speaker 1: get two more phone calls coming up. We will check
Speaker 1: in with the Live Tour Alan Schipnuk, who's been covering
Speaker 1: this topic. We'll join us. Has the lib Tour already
Speaker 1: won versus the PGA Tour. That's my first question for
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Speaker 1: cards to The Dan Patrick Show. Steve in the Outer
Speaker 1: Banks joining us on the program. Good morning, Steve, what
Speaker 1: do you have for us morning? A long time first
Speaker 1: time caller six one nine and a quarter inches. I
Speaker 1: happen to be of the age group that's over fifty,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to sound like the curmudgeon about
Speaker 1: the live golf tour. However, being a golfer, you know
Speaker 1: that your next shot is your most important shot. A tournament,
Speaker 1: you earn your money based on how will you play
Speaker 1: the game. The history is all these tournaments add up
Speaker 1: to your legacy. Now it looks like to lift her
Speaker 1: is name, image and likeness. These people are going there
Speaker 1: not based on what they're doing right now. A lot
Speaker 1: of them are cashing on what they've done in the past. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's great point. Well, I understand it. I understand why
Speaker 1: a lot of them are doing it. But this is
Speaker 1: one of those where it's not even hey, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I want to take that money. It's the
Speaker 1: money is so obscene that they're probably going, are you serious?
Speaker 1: Of course I'm going to go if Barkley goes, if
Speaker 1: you know Bub is going to go, and Alan Schipnuk
Speaker 1: who's going to join us in about five minutes or so.
Speaker 1: He thinks that the live tour has already won in
Speaker 1: this competition with a PGA tour, I gotta wait and
Speaker 1: see if you have a TV deal. I also want
Speaker 1: to know that they have. They're gonna have to change
Speaker 1: the format because you have so many golfers now and
Speaker 1: playing fifty four holes where you have teams. You know,
Speaker 1: that's not really interesting at least I don't find it interesting.
Speaker 1: I love when it's competitive. I like when something's at
Speaker 1: stake there and just because it's a relaxed atmosphere. And
Speaker 1: if they want to say, well, they're growing the tour
Speaker 1: because younger fans are going to come out and watch
Speaker 1: what guys who are making a lot of money playing
Speaker 1: for more money and they're playing loud music and what
Speaker 1: they're on teams. I can't imagine that if you're a
Speaker 1: teenager you're gonna gotta go see that. So I think
Speaker 1: eventually you may have to modify because you got all
Speaker 1: these golfers. They have too many golfers. And if you
Speaker 1: have a shotgun, start well, how many golfers are you
Speaker 1: going to get out there? You got a finite amount.
Speaker 1: And that's what I think. As they move forward, you're
Speaker 1: going to go from eight to fourteen events. I mean,
Speaker 1: nothing ever stays so fourteen then gets to It's like
Speaker 1: the NFL schedule or playoff teams. It sounds like they go,
Speaker 1: you know, one second thought, let's go back to eight.
Speaker 1: They're gonna go to fourteen, and then they're gonna go
Speaker 1: to what eighteen? And you wonder if the players are
Speaker 1: going to go, oh, man, I gotta play eighteen events.
Speaker 1: Now that's part of it that, hey, I don't have
Speaker 1: to play all the time and all that stuff. But
Speaker 1: Alan will join us, coming up, Christ and Brooklyn joins us. Hi, Chris,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind? Good morning, Dan? How are you good? Sir? Good?
Speaker 1: I just want to acknowledge with a Bubba Watson leaving
Speaker 1: to the Live Tour, what a tough day this must
Speaker 1: be for people who dinner past pro shops and I
Speaker 1: want to congratulate the Live Tour on filling the gaping
Speaker 1: boys we didn't know we needed Between the PGA Tour
Speaker 1: and the SEVERER Tour. All Right, it almost feels like
Speaker 1: the Live Tour is a senior tour, Champions Tour that
Speaker 1: should start when you're forty, because you have a lot
Speaker 1: of golfers in their forties. So you're in that no
Speaker 1: man's land. You're not gonna win, probably on the PGA Tour,
Speaker 1: win another major, and you got ten years to go
Speaker 1: or five years to go before you get to the
Speaker 1: Champions Tour. But you got a nice landing spot here
Speaker 1: and then I don't know what happens when you turn
Speaker 1: fifty if you join the Champions Tour, if they will
Speaker 1: allow you to do that. But you know, those are
Speaker 1: just some of the random thoughts, and nothing's really changed
Speaker 1: on my end of this. I hate the fact that
Speaker 1: they're having an event in New Jersey with the Saladi
Speaker 1: Back Tour and those poor families with what happened within
Speaker 1: nine to eleven, and they're going to be out there
Speaker 1: probably protesting this. But I you know, that's the sad
Speaker 1: part of all of this. You want to go play golf.
Speaker 1: You want to take the money, you want to play great,
Speaker 1: don't don't rub it in. You know the bases of
Speaker 1: these poor families who have to relive this, and right
Speaker 1: in your backyard. I think there were seven over seven
Speaker 1: hundred people who lost their lives from New Jersey that
Speaker 1: day at the World Trade Center. So extrapolate that with
Speaker 1: a number of family members who were affected by that.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of people. So we'll talk to Alan
Speaker 1: ship Nuck. He'll join us coming up. This NFL defensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: who I guess told Mike Sando of the Athletic Now
Speaker 1: he will interview a lot of people anonymously, and all
Speaker 1: you need is one person. So let's say I got
Speaker 1: a question. Let's say I have ten questions and I'm
Speaker 1: looking for somebody anonymously to give me a headline. That's
Speaker 1: all you need to do. Is Dak Prescott a great quarterback.
Speaker 1: That might be a question, is Patrick Mahomes overrated? So
Speaker 1: if you get you know, twenty that say no, not
Speaker 1: overrated or whatever, you know their response, and then you
Speaker 1: get somebody, oh, yeah, overrated, and then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden you follow up and say, hey, give me some
Speaker 1: details as to why you think that that's what happens
Speaker 1: this time of the year. Create content, And I don't
Speaker 1: know how many people Mike Sando of the Athletic talk to,
Speaker 1: but you get one. So it's a survey of NFL
Speaker 1: coaches and executives, and that feels like, let me just
Speaker 1: put it out there. It's anonymous, just give me something
Speaker 1: in return, and all you need to do is get
Speaker 1: one who says if Lamar Jackson has to pass to
Speaker 1: win a game, they ain't winning the game. The defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator told Mike Sando, he's so unique as an athlete
Speaker 1: and he's really a good football player. But I don't
Speaker 1: give a bleep if he wins the league MVP twelve times.
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll ever be a number one as
Speaker 1: a quarterback. He'll be a one as a football player,
Speaker 1: but not as a quarterback. Okay, first of all, if
Speaker 1: you win twelve MVPs, nobody's one half of that. Like,
Speaker 1: that's such a stupid comment. Well, of course it's a
Speaker 1: stupid comment, and that means you got to take it
Speaker 1: to his head. Coach John Harball's responds to the anonymous
Speaker 1: defense and sup coordinator. Well, with Lamar, I'd say no,
Speaker 1: just because he's used to it. I mean, he's been
Speaker 1: hearing the same thing since he was probably in junior high.
Speaker 1: You know. I know he heard it in college. I
Speaker 1: know he heard through the draft. I know he hears
Speaker 1: some of the same people saying the same things they
Speaker 1: said in the draft. You know that keeps coming up.
Speaker 1: I don't know who this guy named Anonymous is. You know,
Speaker 1: I haven't met him yet, so I don't even know
Speaker 1: why we report on what he has to say. It
Speaker 1: is what it is. It's just it's just coloney. It's
Speaker 1: just nothing. It's a big nothing burger, nothing burger. Yes.
Speaker 1: The story says that Lamar Jackson received eight of fifty
Speaker 1: votes for Tier one, but got another eight of fifty
Speaker 1: votes for tier three, so he would have thirty something votes.
Speaker 1: You know, thirty four votes in tier two. Now that's
Speaker 1: more interesting. Eight votes for tier three with Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: People forget, Lamar Jackson led the NFL and pouncing touchdowns
Speaker 1: one year and he doesn't have good wide receivers. We
Speaker 1: know that a lot of injuries aust his running backs.
Speaker 1: And I thought that he should just line up shotgun
Speaker 1: and then he would run or throw you it'd be
Speaker 1: just on him. Don't even have anybody in the backfield
Speaker 1: kind of what they did. I think, all right, more
Speaker 1: phone calls coming up. Alan Schipnutt has been covering golf
Speaker 1: for Sports Illustrated twenty five years on the beat, and
Speaker 1: he has a book filled the rip, Roaring and unauthorized
Speaker 1: biography of Golf's most colorful superstar available online. Whoever books
Speaker 1: are sold. Why do you think the Lived Tour has
Speaker 1: already won versus the PGA Tour? Allen, because it's slightly
Speaker 1: more nuance than that, Dan, But they definitely have taken
Speaker 1: a lot of turf here, and you know, there's more
Speaker 1: players coming, and there's some big names coming, and there's
Speaker 1: a critical mass of major championship winners, Hall of famers,
Speaker 1: big time personalities. They just can't be ignored it anymore
Speaker 1: in the marketplace, you know, as as golf fans. Even
Speaker 1: though the competition does not stir the soul, there's too
Speaker 1: much energy here now and the tour has hemorrhage too
Speaker 1: much star power. There's really not enough players in golf
Speaker 1: that we care about to sustain two tours, barely enough
Speaker 1: for one tour. And you start splitting up these guys.
Speaker 1: The PGA Tour has promised a certain product to its
Speaker 1: fans and its advertisers, and they've they've lost a lot
Speaker 1: of the players that drive the tour, and so it's
Speaker 1: at some point a concession is going to have to
Speaker 1: be made. And this notion that the major championships are
Speaker 1: going to freeze out the live players is nonsensical. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's just too many past champions. There's too many big
Speaker 1: time players. I mean, the majors get this spotlight one
Speaker 1: week a year. They want the best field possible, they
Speaker 1: want their past champions, and then the other lion defense
Speaker 1: for the tours. Maybe live won't get world ranking points,
Speaker 1: but again you get word Randy points to the corn
Speaker 1: Ferry Tour with a bunch of like college kids and
Speaker 1: old timers no one's ever heard of, and you're not
Speaker 1: going to give it to this tour that has a
Speaker 1: bunch of big time players. It makes no sense. So
Speaker 1: that those those were the kind of the last stands
Speaker 1: for the tour the majors in the world rankings. But
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna lose both those battles and then
Speaker 1: they're gonna have They're gonna have to cut some sort
Speaker 1: of sort of deal to bring to bring the game
Speaker 1: back together in one piece. Well, congratulations first of all
Speaker 1: getting credentialed, because that's a big step for you. Didn't
Speaker 1: you you get thrown out of a tournament earlier this year. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: first the first live event in London, and that was
Speaker 1: Phil Michelson's return to public life, and had I had
Speaker 1: recently published a biography about Phil Nicholson. And it was
Speaker 1: not the live folks in the final analysis who got
Speaker 1: me tossed. After doing snooping around and talking a lot
Speaker 1: of people, it seems very likely that it was Phil's
Speaker 1: own overprotective management company and this little wormy dude they
Speaker 1: employee who sicked the security goon on me. So it
Speaker 1: was a wild overreaction. But it's a funny story. And yes,
Speaker 1: I was credentialed for that tournament. And there's only two
Speaker 1: reporters now who have been to all three events, myself
Speaker 1: and Bob Harrigan. It's not that I'm pro live. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to understand what is a humongous story in
Speaker 1: the sports world. And there's a lot of people on
Speaker 1: the sidelines who are pontificating and twining fingers and shouting.
Speaker 1: I'm actually trying to talk to people and do some
Speaker 1: real reporting. So you're in Jersey now, you're at the
Speaker 1: Trump Bedminster golf course. Can you set the scene where
Speaker 1: they're protest with families from nine to eleven victims out front.
Speaker 1: They weren't visible the way that I came in. You know,
Speaker 1: this is really Trump likes to say. This, of course,
Speaker 1: is twenty minutes from the Lincoln Tunnel. I mean maybe
Speaker 1: if you have a helicopter. We are way out in
Speaker 1: the wilds of New Jersey. I mean, it's lovely rolling
Speaker 1: horse country, and there's biggest stage, and it looks like
Speaker 1: a nice place to live. But it is the middle
Speaker 1: of nowhere, and so there's just these two lane country
Speaker 1: road was leading into the course, and they're never going
Speaker 1: to let a protest happen in that space. It's too dangerous.
Speaker 1: And so you know, I was at the US Women's
Speaker 1: Open here when Trump was a sitting president and those
Speaker 1: protests then, and they kind of created a designated zone
Speaker 1: in a couple of miles away, which was unsatisfying to
Speaker 1: the protesters. They couldn't really be heard or seen, but
Speaker 1: it probably made sense from a safety standpoint. So I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be the same thing this week. When
Speaker 1: you're on the grounds, you'll have no idea any of
Speaker 1: that's happening. You'll have to go find them if you
Speaker 1: want to see the protesters. What is Charles Barkley's value,
Speaker 1: the potential for Charles joining, the value for the Live
Speaker 1: Tour and not much. I think it's almost negative because
Speaker 1: if they're trying to be taken seriously as a real,
Speaker 1: legit golf tour, and we all love Charles Barkley, right,
Speaker 1: but he's kind of a sideshow. He's not a golf guy.
Speaker 1: He's a bit of a court jester, and he adds
Speaker 1: entertainment value. But I think it actually hurts their credibility.
Speaker 1: So I think Live has gotten what they want in
Speaker 1: this seduction. They're in the headlines. Charles is here playing
Speaker 1: the ProAm. I saw him on the range minutes ago.
Speaker 1: Swing looks decent, looks. The format is hokey already with
Speaker 1: the Live Tour. I mean that, so Charles can to
Speaker 1: the hokeyness of it. Yeah, if you want to lean
Speaker 1: in on hokyness, but they want to be taken seriously.
Speaker 1: So that's why I don't I don't think Charles is
Speaker 1: a good choice for them. I mean, they already have
Speaker 1: David Fardy, who has a wicked sense of humor and
Speaker 1: he can he can entertain fans, but he's you know,
Speaker 1: a Ryder Cup and he's been in the golf world
Speaker 1: for three decades as a commentator, like Arty, brings a
Speaker 1: certain star power, but also a gravitas that is woefully
Speaker 1: lacking with Searl Charles, despite his lofty title. So I
Speaker 1: don't Maybe they'll bring him in for a few broadcasts
Speaker 1: just for comic relief, but it would be a monumental
Speaker 1: mistake to sign him up for every every broadcast. I
Speaker 1: think the hardcore golf fans would be turned off. Well,
Speaker 1: he said that he was not given an offer by
Speaker 1: Norman when they went to dinner, and he was not
Speaker 1: told about a TV partner, although he told me earlier
Speaker 1: in the week that there will be a TV partner.
Speaker 1: Who are you hearing is going to carry the live tour.
Speaker 1: That's a work in progress, but that that's you know,
Speaker 1: the eyeballs will follow the players and we know listen,
Speaker 1: ever your other sport, like you're you're a Lebron James
Speaker 1: fan and you cheer fer a no matter when he
Speaker 1: switches jerseys, and golf has suddenly entered the two thou
Speaker 1: and twenties right where players are switching teams and they're
Speaker 1: switching jerseys. And if you're a Brooks kept fan, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: or Phil Nicholson fan, or a Bubba Watson fan, who
Speaker 1: they just announced today, I'm sure they some people have
Speaker 1: been turned off because we know where the money is
Speaker 1: coming from on the live tours makes people uncomfortable and
Speaker 1: that's legit. But ultimately, you know, the players are their
Speaker 1: own franchises, and I think that that they're gonna you know,
Speaker 1: the fans will follow them to a large degree and
Speaker 1: there will be a demand to watch them play golf,
Speaker 1: and um, you know, therefore a network or streaming service
Speaker 1: or both is going to sign up. What do you
Speaker 1: make of the PGA tour strategy so far? It's been
Speaker 1: a mixed bag, to say the least. I mean that,
Speaker 1: you know, Monahan, Jaymonhand, the PGUR commissioner, was honest. You know,
Speaker 1: we can't outspend these guys. We can't compete dollar for dollar.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows that. It's obvious. So what they've tried to
Speaker 1: they've had a two pronged strategy. One is to villainize
Speaker 1: the Saudias and the live tour and say we're the
Speaker 1: we're the good guys, and there the bad guys. That's
Speaker 1: a losing strategy. The players have voted with their feet
Speaker 1: like they don't care, they're taking the money, like that's
Speaker 1: been made obvious, and that's been That's been the case
Speaker 1: in golf for a very long time. I mean, the
Speaker 1: European PGA Tour would have gone out of business years ago.
Speaker 1: Without money from China and the Saudi Arabia and the
Speaker 1: United Arab Emirates and cutter and without you know, autocratic
Speaker 1: oppressive regimes, there would be no European Tour. The players
Speaker 1: made peace of that a long time ago. So the
Speaker 1: moral argument the tour has already lost. They've now they've
Speaker 1: they've tried to lean on tradition and the value of
Speaker 1: history and legacy, and again a lot of players have
Speaker 1: cut bait on that as well, like you know that
Speaker 1: they care about the majors and they're still gonna be
Speaker 1: able to play the majors. There's not much difference, I
Speaker 1: think for a lot of these guys. Been the Greater
Speaker 1: Hartford Open and a live event in Portland and the
Speaker 1: Phoenix Open and a live event in New Jersey, like
Speaker 1: it feels the same. They're professional golfers by definition. They
Speaker 1: played golf for money. There's a hell of a lot
Speaker 1: more money here, so so morality didn't work, tradition didn't work.
Speaker 1: So now you know what's the tour has left. That's
Speaker 1: what they're trying to figure out. Because I don't fault them,
Speaker 1: that's kind of all they had. They can't outspend these guys.
Speaker 1: But you know, so far they're over too, so I
Speaker 1: will see what they cook up next. And Pontovitra beats
Speaker 1: play nice there. Okay, thanks for joining us, Yeah you
Speaker 1: got it, thanks for having done all right? That talent
Speaker 1: chip none than covering golf for a long time. I
Speaker 1: ain't got credentialed again. So he wrote the book on
Speaker 1: Phil and seven other books there. Yeah, if you're the
Speaker 1: PGA Tour, you're probably looking at this going you wait
Speaker 1: for the next the other shoe to drop. I should
Speaker 1: say the next shoe, because it feels like there's a
Speaker 1: closet full of shoes here that have been dropping. Still
Speaker 1: no word on cam Smith if he's just won the
Speaker 1: British Open. Been kind of quiet but feels like you know,
Speaker 1: and if you're Bubba, this is the time the week
Speaker 1: to join because the topic has been about Trump hosting
Speaker 1: this nine to eleven Charles Barkley and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, and I had heard a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: ago that Bubba was on the short list. And there's
Speaker 1: a couple other names that I'm told could be joining.
Speaker 1: But in fairness to what is sort of hearsay or
Speaker 1: gossip or what is actual reporting, I'll be fair to them.
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Speaker 1: what's in store tomorrow? This day in sports History only
Speaker 1: says there's a this day in sports media history? Would
Speaker 1: you like that? First? Yeah? Six years ago today, maybe
Speaker 1: the coldest taken sports media happened now. I like personally
Speaker 1: when Skip Bayliss said move over Lebron, like there's a
Speaker 1: new sheriff in tow when Johnny Manziel got drafted out
Speaker 1: of the Browns, that's one of my personal foods. But
Speaker 1: he's got so many I can't keep track. Okay, six
Speaker 1: years ago today, Max Kellerman declared that Tom Brady was
Speaker 1: going to fall off a cliff in short order, that
Speaker 1: he was just about done and he will be a
Speaker 1: bum very soon. That was six years ago. Tom Brady
Speaker 1: has three Super Bowl victories since, and he's still playing
Speaker 1: at a highly He also he led a league touchdown pasts.
Speaker 1: Who's falling off a cliff? More Tom Brady or Max Kellerman.
Speaker 1: Max is still out there punching. Yeah, out there working hard. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That might be the the coldest take of all time.
Speaker 1: We got kicked to the curb bone first take though
Speaker 1: the video is so fun to watch. Stephen A. Smith
Speaker 1: is credicals hold on it. But maybe Max did what
Speaker 1: he set out to do, and that's good publicity because
Speaker 1: there are people news business who believe any publicity is
Speaker 1: good publicity. Yeah. See to his credit, he does embrace
Speaker 1: being the guy who said Brady was going to fall
Speaker 1: off a cliff. Well you you have to, I know.
Speaker 1: But so that there are some people who wouldn't. They
Speaker 1: would be like, okay, I want to Brady's come closer
Speaker 1: to actually falling off a cliff than falling off a
Speaker 1: cliff metaphorical cliff. To be fair to Max, this is
Speaker 1: coming off the twenty sixteen season for Tom Brady, so
Speaker 1: to look at his stats, he did not make the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, or he did was a Pro bowler that year,
Speaker 1: but the team was eleven and one who was bit
Speaker 1: banged up that year. He missed four games. All right,
Speaker 1: that was a suspension year, I'm sorry. And he threw
Speaker 1: twenty touchdowns in two picks, but his numbers were down
Speaker 1: from the year before. Well, that's the pressure to come
Speaker 1: up with hot takes in this business. They can make
Speaker 1: you look really stupid. How about maybe just informed opinion,
Speaker 1: why you're right? You're right? That's no fun. Yeah, See,
Speaker 1: it wasn't the craziest idea that his best days were
Speaker 1: behind him and that he was going to start declining
Speaker 1: at that time. But if you it's how you phrase it, though,
Speaker 1: it's right to say he's about to become a bum
Speaker 1: in short order or whatever he said. That's a little extreme.
Speaker 1: But to think, you know what, if I start to
Speaker 1: hedge my bets right now, I think Tom Brady's probably
Speaker 1: going to start declining here in the next couple of years.
Speaker 1: Isn't the craziest thought. But when you call him a bum,
Speaker 1: that's unfortunate. So, yes, maybe he's declining, He's still Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that when Michael Jordan went to the Wizards,
Speaker 1: you know, is Max going to go? You know, he's
Speaker 1: starting to decline pretty soon he's gonna be a bum. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's declining, but even never a bum. That was the
Speaker 1: part of it that you know, Lingers there for Max
Speaker 1: coming up with a freezing cold. Take there. Let's see
Speaker 1: what else do we have here, Paulie, I got a
Speaker 1: little sports history for you. Dan Shocker. This is another
Speaker 1: one of those Lance Armstrong one and it was fourth
Speaker 1: straight toward the France. Kenny Rogers of the Texas Rangers
Speaker 1: pitched the fourteenth perfect game in Major League baseball history.
Speaker 1: And in nineteen ninety one, Dennis Martinez, remember him, the
Speaker 1: Montreal Expost pitched the thirteenth perfect game in baseball history.
Speaker 1: El Presidental, Yeah, Denny Martinez. Uh Ken Griffe Junior on
Speaker 1: this day homered in his eighth consecutive game, tying the
Speaker 1: major league record. Uh. Let's see, here's one for you.
Speaker 1: This is like a trivial pursuit. Maybe it's too tough
Speaker 1: for trivial pursuit. Michael Phelps loses his first major individual
Speaker 1: race in four years. Who beat him? He swam for Germany.
Speaker 1: This was the two hundred meter freestyle at the World
Speaker 1: Championships in Rome. It was Paul Biederman. Oh Bieterman. Yes,
Speaker 1: ended up beating Uh, let's see anything else here, M
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Yeah. Po US Nationals last night
Speaker 1: Katie Ladecki in the eight hundred, of course she won.
Speaker 1: But her heat she has in the eight hundred meters
Speaker 1: that's eight hundred free. That's yeah, she has the twenty
Speaker 1: nine fastest times in swimming history. Over rated. She should
Speaker 1: have to wear like like a clothing or like a
Speaker 1: shoes in the water, Like what are those parachutes that
Speaker 1: people run with behind them? Like a jacket and pants? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Make it even. I wonder what you could do where
Speaker 1: you go? Okay, let's level the playing field or the
Speaker 1: water for her and her competitive on your marks gets
Speaker 1: set go not you? No, no, you stay stay a
Speaker 1: little longer day. It's like I tell my puppy winning
Speaker 1: stay stay, stay free go and then she jumps in
Speaker 1: the water. Uh. Jeff and Detroit joining us. Hi, Jeff,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Hey? What up? The one
Speaker 1: time a chat? Real real quick Pegi talking about the
Speaker 1: mark of quire Adan Danley Trade and market, Quoire says,
Speaker 1: to give me that guy anytime. SECN. We celebrate the
Speaker 1: two championships up ball for that real quick damn about
Speaker 1: a sandwich. Years ago when I was young, I had
Speaker 1: went to a place ordered the sandwich, and I decided
Speaker 1: to put cornbief on top of a cheeseburger onion roll,
Speaker 1: Swiss and American cheese. They end up turning it into
Speaker 1: what they called now a smitty that will give you
Speaker 1: a heart attack. One of the best things in the world,
Speaker 1: and you gotta trial one. Thank you, Jeff. By the way,
Speaker 1: the greatest sandwich of all time, not even clothes, Paul,
Speaker 1: you don't want to hear this. I want to hear
Speaker 1: it tomorrow at nine am Eastern. Okay, best sandwich of
Speaker 1: all time? Yeah, Tome, that would be a Turkey club.
Speaker 1: Oh the side of prize boring. I guess I've saved
Speaker 1: it till tomorrow. Get gonna open the show with that tomorrow?
Speaker 1: Is it hotter than Max Kellerman sat? Tom Brady's gonna
Speaker 1: fall off a cliff? Well, it might be. Is it colder?
Speaker 1: Why don't you guess maybe the sandwich is hot? Best
Speaker 1: sandwich of all time, Polly, I don't know exactly how
Speaker 1: youse an Italian combo cold cut. I do love that.
Speaker 1: I've seen you order that people. Yes, Todd, you already
Speaker 1: said a Turkey club accoring, but I think that's the
Speaker 1: best one. No, no, what do I think? Not you?
Speaker 1: I can see you having a chicken cordone blue sandwich Seaton. Well,
Speaker 1: I would be stealing Paul's answer. M Actually, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: change up and say a Ruben Ruben. I do like
Speaker 1: the sound crowd on there, Marv. I'm gonna go at Polly,
Speaker 1: it's at the best sandwich of all time is peanut
Speaker 1: butter and jelly. I thought a French dip. No, it's
Speaker 1: peanut butter jelly. I respect that take. I had one
Speaker 1: the other day. They're still fantastic. Just you can't go
Speaker 1: you can't be in a bad mood. Like if you say, hey,
Speaker 1: we got this sandwich, you go okay. Peanut butter and
Speaker 1: jelly can't go wrong. Yeah, see about man. Maybe five
Speaker 1: years ago, maybe even longer than that, maybe six years ago,
Speaker 1: something like that. I came home from work one day
Speaker 1: and my son was like, Dad, Dad, I just made
Speaker 1: the best sandwich ever. He's like, this is what you do.
Speaker 1: You get peanut butter and you put it on one
Speaker 1: side of the bread and then jelly on the other side.
Speaker 1: You put it together and you eat it together like that.
Speaker 1: It's the best sandwich ever. Like, buddy, you mean a
Speaker 1: peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Pal, oh oh, is that
Speaker 1: a thing? It's a jelly and peanut butter sandwich. Yeah, Pal,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that one's been around a little bit. Oh,
Speaker 1: Tim and Florida. Hi, Tim, what's on your mind? Hello?
Speaker 1: Excuse me? How you doing? Good? Tim? I just like
Speaker 1: I just like to call and apologized. Last week I
Speaker 1: called and you was calling my name and I couldn't
Speaker 1: answer you. And I'd just like to share this with
Speaker 1: you right quick. I ran at my job and ducked
Speaker 1: into the janitor's clause and left the door gaped. So,
Speaker 1: just like in the scary movies, I can hear my
Speaker 1: supervisor walking towards it because he has a club foot
Speaker 1: and he wears one big shoe, and he stopped. He started.
Speaker 1: He steps in front of the janitor's closet and he's
Speaker 1: on his phone. And so now it's like the takes
Speaker 1: the movie with the little girl under the bead with
Speaker 1: the phone, and I can hear is Tim, You're on Jim,
Speaker 1: Jim Jim, and and I'm like help me, And you
Speaker 1: know he and all he had to do was just
Speaker 1: turn around and see a six foot four hundred pound
Speaker 1: man standing in the dark and the janitor's closet. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you, Tim, thank you for that update. We're worried
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