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Speaker 9: But it was a draw.

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Speaker 10: If I'm Mike Bell, I'm skipping this week's episode of

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Speaker 10: the Anaki Flooring Podcast. Great to be with you, Monday,

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Speaker 10: September eighteenth, twenty twenty three. Back in the home Studio

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Speaker 10: for episode four thirty eight of The End Comploring Podcast

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Speaker 10: presented by DraftKings on the DraftKings Network YouTube channel. We

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Speaker 10: appreciate you checking out the show wherever you are finding

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Speaker 10: us clips on the ANC and Flooring podcast YouTube channel.

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Speaker 10: We don't discriminate on that as well. Oh so much

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Speaker 10: to get into Kenfler's got his Nirvana shirt. He is nourished.

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Speaker 10: He just date his breakfast, which probably means he was

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Speaker 10: pushing heavyweight this morning. How are you doing, kid? How

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Speaker 10: are you doing?

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Speaker 8: Oh? My goodness, I'm feeling okay. But I just how

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Speaker 8: many weeks in a row?

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Speaker 9: John?

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Speaker 8: Do I need to get poked in behind the behind

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Speaker 8: by these? I mean, it's just one thing after another,

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Speaker 8: something's coming up.

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Speaker 9: I can't catch a break.

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Speaker 10: Ah.

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Speaker 8: I mean there's some days I just I want to

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Speaker 8: stop giving picks.

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Speaker 9: John.

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Speaker 8: I'm just getting murdered over here.

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Speaker 10: So oftentimes when we're on the road, my twin brother

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Speaker 10: was there. We were with our friend Ronnie Pellegrino this weekend,

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Speaker 10: and we talk about the Anticamploring podcast, and we're always

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Speaker 10: trying to make the show better, always trying to make

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Speaker 10: the show better and make the main event challenge better,

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Speaker 10: and my brother always bemoans the fact that you don't

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Speaker 10: like having to pick fights nor do a lot of

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Speaker 10: these analysts, right, it is a cornerstone of the program.

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Speaker 10: And now we are on the DraftKings Network and you've

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Speaker 10: been making picks though on this show in the main

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Speaker 10: event challenge since this show's inception essentially, so it is

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Speaker 10: nothing new, but we are trying to come up with

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Speaker 10: creative ways, I think for twenty twenty four so that

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Speaker 10: uh just pick heavy for ken Flow because it is difficult.

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Speaker 10: It is a very difficult thing, and I do think

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Speaker 10: mathematically there's a way to come up with something that

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Speaker 10: different things we can do, abstaining multiple unit plays, proposition bets.

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Speaker 10: But our listenership, we always value your input as well.

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Speaker 10: But yes, Kenflow was on Valentina Shipchenko and was unable

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Speaker 10: Of course we will recap the UFC's first notescha UFC.

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Speaker 10: I have a lot of respect for the Mexican combat

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Speaker 10: sports fan because well for myriad reasons. But I started

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Speaker 9: And of course we had a lot of drama as well.

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Speaker 8: And not only was it a guillotine, it was a

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Speaker 8: because of that squeeze. The squeeze was tight, make no

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Speaker 8: Alexa Grosso. Now, I think that absolutely was a much

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Speaker 8: So I think that's extremely important and it highlights how

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Speaker 10: So Jeanwei Lee versus Yo wanna you and Jacheck this

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Speaker 10: you just knew going into this rematch, this Valentina Shevchenko

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Speaker 10: I mean, she was absolutely ready for war. And Alexa Grosso,

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Speaker 10: Valancina Chefchenko DC and I kind of not argued about

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Speaker 10: And Sean Sheen actually made an argument for Chefchenko ten

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Speaker 8: There's always an argument to be made. Is it a

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Speaker 8: good argument is a different question, but uh yeah, listen.

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Speaker 8: I think that this was a great demonstration of who

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I love Alexa Grosso, I really do. I have no

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Speaker 10: But I do think that Valentina Chevchenko got a shit

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Speaker 10: exactly that. But Kenny, at this point right short of

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Speaker 10: I just think that there's just got to be a

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I would hope that that would help

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Speaker 9: I don't know hopefully that that is a solution.

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Speaker 9: Some ways, you know. I don't I don't know if

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Speaker 8: I'm not I'm not trying to levy anything against mister

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Speaker 9: It was just odd.

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Speaker 8: And I guess my other question, John, is when when

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Speaker 9: More liberally is that is that is? That?

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Speaker 10: Is that correct? There is a time sorry, go ahead

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Speaker 10: and no. And we talked to Sean Sheen about this.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, John, And this is kind of what bugs me,

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Speaker 8: I mean there were a few fights where I literally

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: That's got to be one of the ones for ship

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Speaker 8: did everything right, you know. Yeah, there were a couple

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Speaker 9: On her own. But I don't know, man.

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Speaker 8: And then I hear some fans like, well, you need

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Speaker 9: You need to beat the champ convincingly.

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Speaker 8: Shut up.

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Speaker 9: That is not the way that works.

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Speaker 8: Stop repeating some old boxing thing that commentator said from

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Speaker 8: thirty forty years ago. Okay, that is not the way

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Speaker 8: it works. If you win more rounds than the other person,

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Speaker 10: Can you actually believe that there was a time in

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Speaker 8: Yeah, just give it to the chat Insane we're saying

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Speaker 9: Let's just call it a draw.

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Speaker 8: Let's just say the other guy did really well because

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Speaker 9: So I don't know, it's so silly.

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Speaker 10: because this scoring system doesn't give you a great point

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Speaker 10: So I like that historically he's doing that. But in

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Speaker 10: I've even oftentimes said, man, it kind of would be

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Speaker 10: to judge these fights are our scorers, right, the guys

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Speaker 10: at thirty to twenty seven, that have worked so hard

436
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Speaker 10: for so many years watching this stuff with such a

437
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Speaker 10: fine eye, and when you hear those individuals make the

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Speaker 10: argument as to what is a submission attempt and what

439
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Speaker 10: isn't right? Obviously, if they were in a room with

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Speaker 10: Ryan Hall, they would defer to him. But they're pretty stingy, right,

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Speaker 10: And I think largely with good reason, because there's guys

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Speaker 10: out there like Ken Flow, like, yeah, it's not even

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Speaker 10: a SUBMISSI attempt, Okay, But that's why I always say

444
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Speaker 10: I prefer to have a jiu jitsu analyst to my right.

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Speaker 10: Joe Rogan, Lorisenko, right, Dominic Cruz. I mean, we have

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Speaker 10: a ton of great ones. Obviously Ken Flow used to

447
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Speaker 10: be to my right. But it is a really hard thing, right.

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Speaker 10: I hope this doesn't inspire everybody in the comments to say,

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Speaker 10: you know, who needs to go back to jiu jitsu class,

450
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Speaker 10: John Anick, because I'm not going, you know, but no,

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Speaker 10: I mean I do think there's you know, we have monitors, right,

452
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Speaker 10: There's so many different arguments you can be made as

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Speaker 10: to what we can do to effect change when it

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Speaker 10: comes to judging. And again, it isn't so much a

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Speaker 10: huge issue with a split draw. It's that we arrive

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Speaker 10: there with one of the worst singular round scores that

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Speaker 10: I've ever seen, and it came in a championship fight.

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Speaker 10: And I have some quote. Yeah, so I was listening

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Speaker 10: to Sean Shean's Severe MMA podcast. Graham has co host

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Speaker 10: did a great job. Sorry I don't know your surname,

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Speaker 10: but he said this was a direct quote. He said

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Speaker 10: something to the effect of, you know, a judge being

463
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Speaker 10: this incompetent in a title fight is a problem, and

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Speaker 10: we all need to do whatever we can to figure

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Speaker 10: out a solution, right. And I don't know, I don't

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Speaker 10: I don't know what we do about all that, but uh,

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Speaker 10: I guess we have a rematch, that's what we have

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Speaker 10: a third fight, that's what we do, right, Yes, but yes,

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Speaker 10: they don't always come McDonald, Graham McDonald, They.

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Speaker 9: Don't always come to fruition, right.

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Speaker 8: It's because one person gets injured, then another person gets injured.

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Speaker 8: It's like, you know, Tony Ferguson and Habibra Maga Meta

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Speaker 8: for starts to fight for a while too. You know,

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Speaker 8: It's like sometimes these things. I hope, I hope that's

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Speaker 8: what happens, and I hope that both ladies stay healthy

476
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Speaker 8: and we're able to see that trilogy because it is

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Speaker 8: absolutely warranted. You know, it was just unfortunate all the

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Speaker 8: way around. But yeah, we'll see, we'll see what happens, man.

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Speaker 8: But that is the solution. It just have these ladies

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Speaker 8: fight for a third time.

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Speaker 10: I just as I said, so much respect for both

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Speaker 10: athletes and the way they approached this now rivalry, and yeah,

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Speaker 10: you can argue if you're Aaron Blanchefield and Menol Fuere,

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Speaker 10: this is a little bit annoying. This is the one

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Speaker 10: result that maybe you would not want to have, is

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Speaker 10: something indecisive like this. Maybe you would have preferred Grosso

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Speaker 10: finality or even a Chevchenko finish. One thing that I

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Speaker 10: did want to go back to before we move along.

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Speaker 10: So you said, Alexa grutt, Alexa Grosso is more of

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Speaker 10: a finisher, and then you sort of went on to

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Speaker 10: talk about her killer instinct. And I find it interesting

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Speaker 10: because when I was handicapping this fight beforehand, one of

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Speaker 10: the things that we were talking about up in this

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Speaker 10: beautiful penthouse sweet shout out to big Run, just rolling

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Speaker 10: out the goddamn red carpet. I was at Virgin Hotels.

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Speaker 10: The UFC put me up there and he upgrade me

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Speaker 10: to this pretty small suite right below him, and then

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Speaker 10: I was just you know, up and down all weekend.

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Speaker 10: Just but I will say, as somebody who spent twelve

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Speaker 10: hundred nights a year on the road over the last

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Speaker 10: twelve years, to have that type of square footage to

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Speaker 10: prepare to prepare the dining room table, right overlooking the strip.

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Speaker 10: It was very liberating in a great setting in which

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Speaker 10: to complete that back to back for me, at least

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Speaker 10: professionally speaking. So, but Alexa Grosso more of a finisher,

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Speaker 10: And then you went on to talk about the killer instinct,

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Speaker 10: and we know historically that Alexa Grosso is not more

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Speaker 10: of a finisher on paper than Valentina shif Chanko, hang on,

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Speaker 10: hang on, I'm going somewhere, however, cloudy headed, I'm going

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Speaker 10: somewhere here. So Alexa Grosso has never had a knockout

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Speaker 10: in the UFC, but two of her last three wins

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Speaker 10: have come by submission against Joanne Wood and Valentina Chefchenko.

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Speaker 10: And you can't judge Alexa Grosso as finisher based upon

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Speaker 10: the body of work, because this version right now is

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Speaker 10: fucking lethal, even if you want to say the knockdown

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Speaker 10: was partly a byproduct in round two of Valentina Chefchenko

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Speaker 10: being off balance, right, she was athletically able to flip

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Speaker 10: and immediately recovered, right, But that's a knockdown. And Alexa

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Speaker 10: Grosso has developed her power and is the best striker

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Speaker 10: she's ever been. And as a grappler, I'm sure even

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Speaker 10: you and your buddy Ryan Hall would attest she's a

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Speaker 10: real motherfucker in that realm right now. Defensively, offensively. Diego

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Speaker 10: Lopez a real problem as well. So Alexa Grosso right

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Speaker 10: now is probably the more potent finisher right at this

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Speaker 10: stage of their careers, which may be the crazy saying,

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Speaker 10: but you know, Valentina Chefchenko, in my mind, won this

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Speaker 10: fight largely with her.

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Speaker 8: Jab Absolutely, dude, I think that's spot on it, and

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Speaker 8: that's kind of what I'm alluding to. It's, you know,

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Speaker 8: I statistics don't always define what's going on, right, and

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Speaker 8: I think that if you look at the way that

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Speaker 8: they fight, Chevchenko is going out there to outpoint you.

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Speaker 8: If she gets you hurt, then absolutely she's going to

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Speaker 8: try to take you out, whereas Grosso is trying to

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Speaker 8: hurt you almost all the time, and when she does,

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Speaker 8: she's trying to take you out right there. So as

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Speaker 8: far as their approach, right it's just a different styles

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Speaker 8: for both of those ladies. But it was an awesome

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Speaker 8: fight and just unfortunate with that controversy.

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Speaker 9: At the end.

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Speaker 10: Both women essentially went right back into training camp. Alexa

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Speaker 10: Grosso took two weeks off and I think for Alexa

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Speaker 10: Grosso to be able to retain this is nice because

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Speaker 10: maybe she can catch a little bit more of a respite.

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Speaker 10: For chef Chenko, this is tough, right because she has

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Speaker 10: to continue to live her life as the former champion

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Speaker 10: and put in another training camp, not unlike the one

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Speaker 10: she just put in, and it is hard to do that.

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Speaker 10: But Valentina Chefchenko at thirty four years of age, I

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Speaker 10: believe I have my notes right here, talks thirty five

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Speaker 10: to be around for some times. So congratulations to both

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Speaker 10: All right, let us get to the star of the program,

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Speaker 10: be recovering from hip surgery, Raymond Peter Longo.

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Speaker 4: It's now time for the Ray Longo minutes.

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Speaker 9: This fucking stress.

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Speaker 7: That's what I want, the.

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Speaker 4: Ray long Minute. Sorry, Ray the John Nick and Kenny

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Speaker 4: Florian podcast.

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Speaker 7: Great to see you.

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Speaker 2: How's your hip?

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Speaker 10: How are we doing?

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Speaker 2: Get that?

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Speaker 7: John, let's get that. We booked, We booked your physicians.

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Speaker 7: It's a boring existence. You're always your physician?

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Speaker 10: Is we booked your physician on the show Thursday. Who's

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Speaker 10: it to talk about we booked?

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Speaker 9: Ah?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, He's like, I don't have a primary care physician,

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Speaker 10: so no, how are we doing? How's the hip going?

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Speaker 10: You had the surgery in late August. You're about three

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Speaker 10: weeks in. When I was in Australia and all the

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Speaker 10: noise I sort of buried the lead. But I'm really

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Speaker 10: curious how you're doing and when we can expect to

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Speaker 10: see you back in a UFC or Mixed Martial arts corn.

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Speaker 7: Oh man, I'll tell you what. Definitely longer than I thought.

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Speaker 7: So it's three weeks. I mean, you know, I went

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Speaker 7: to the gym yesterday, but I just can't do much.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, I just did it to go watch some

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Speaker 7: people work out and that was it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, you know, but.

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Speaker 7: You look good, John, Yeah, thanks, So I know I

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Speaker 7: feel the same thing. I feel good. I just you know,

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Speaker 7: I'm limited to what I could do. I still have

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Speaker 7: a lot of restrictions. You know. You can't bend passed

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Speaker 7: ninety degrees, so you can't pick something up off the floor.

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Speaker 7: You can't get your socks.

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Speaker 2: On, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: It's one of those things that I'm telling you, the

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Speaker 7: things you never hear from the people that have hip surgery.

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Speaker 7: I thought I'd running around Kenny in two weeks. Once

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Speaker 7: that got shut down, I had to take a different approach.

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Speaker 7: So I'm in for the long I'm in for the

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Speaker 7: long game.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 9: I'm with you, man, I'm impatient.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, yeah, if you're impatient, this is the worst thing,

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Speaker 7: trust me. Yeah, because you know, whatever's talk about it,

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Speaker 7: Brighten's talk about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: No, we're going to there is uh. There is a

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Speaker 10: light at the end of the tunnel, though, and we

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Speaker 10: wish you all the best as you continue on the men.

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Speaker 10: There is a little bit of a delay. Now. I

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Speaker 10: only bring it up in the context of the Ray

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Speaker 10: Longo minute. Men who perpetually think that I am cutting

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Speaker 10: you off when it's just a delay on your connection

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Speaker 10: or your phone. And these people are coming at me.

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Speaker 10: So I'm going to pause deliberately today, pregnantly to make

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Speaker 10: sure that you have the floor.

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Speaker 7: Wow. Okay, that's good. But I think I'm interrupting you though,

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Speaker 7: because you know I can't hold it, Kenny, I can't

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Speaker 7: hold the thought for more than two seconds. I think

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Speaker 7: just goes into a black hole somewhere. So what do

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Speaker 7: we got? We got Charlie Campbell coming out, guns blazing,

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Speaker 7: another guy in the UFC. We got too many guys

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Speaker 7: in the UFC, and I don't like it. I like

650
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 7: the old days three three, four. Now we got like ten.

651
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 10: So before you and Ken Flow go back and forth

652
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 10: on the ten eight, let us talk about Charlie the

653
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 10: Cannibal Campbell. You talk about being ready to make a

654
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 10: UFC debut. He told us in the Fighter Meeting that

655
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 10: the UFC contract slipped through his fingers essentially when he

656
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 10: fought Chris Duncan, the kid from Scotland, and started well

657
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 10: and then got unceremoniously knocked out. But man, Charlie look

658
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 10: ready to go, Ray, and congratulations got the bonus and

659
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 10: everything else.

660
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

661
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: Nice.

662
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 7: I mean, look, he's uh, he loves to fight. That's

663
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 7: for one thing. The kid really does love to fight.

664
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 7: So I think he's in the right spot. He'll be

665
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 7: a good fit for the UFC too, because I think

666
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 7: he'll be jumping in and just fighting, you know whatever. So,

667
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 7: uh sounds good.

668
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 10: So how about him cutting that promo too? And Cody,

669
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 10: I just saw your note. That would have been great.

670
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 10: Cody suggested Ray that I ask you about Charlie Campbell

671
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 10: and say, what do you think of Charlie Campbell? Doesn't

672
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 10: matter what you think of Charlie Campbell. Ray, Yes, but

673
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 10: the kid can cut a promo too, and he's so

674
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 10: it really does speak to who he is Kenny that

675
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 10: he'll just cut a promo on DC like that, and DC.

676
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 7: Should have dumped him right on his head. He kind

677
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 7: of alluded to it too, like, I'll look, this is

678
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 7: your first time in the octagon. I'll let you live.

679
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 7: I think that's what he said. Yeah, but yeah, you

680
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 7: know that shit, I can all do without that that.

681
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 7: I couldn't give a shit.

682
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 10: Well, thank god d C didn't dump him on his

683
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 10: head because that would have been very wwe esk. And

684
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 10: thankfully it wasn't me doing the interview because that reference

685
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 10: would have been lost on me.

686
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 7: Oh wow, I have no idea what it was either,

687
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 7: to be honest, he told us so it was.

688
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 10: The rock, Yeah, all right, ten eight Alexa Grosso in

689
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 10: round five and then the judge handed that in on

690
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 10: a piece of paper, effectively changing lives forever.

691
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 7: I gotta tell you, absolutely horrendous and horrendous morph the

692
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 7: for men. I tell you it's hard not to think

693
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 7: conspiracy with this now, Kenny. I mean at ten eight,

694
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 7: in a fight that really was close and what a competitive,

695
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 7: great fight, loved. I actually, look, it was a good fight.

696
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 7: It could have went either way, but that there should

697
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 7: have been a winner in that fight. It shouldn't have

698
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 7: came down to that because and I did think Valentina

699
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 7: won the fight, but I wasn't really judging it. But

700
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 7: I think Garrosso had the big those moments like everything

701
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 7: would be going good for Valentina, then one slip up

702
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 7: and she's in bad shape. But I took for the

703
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 7: most part, Valentina came out a different person, like you

704
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 7: could talk about it, you know, like she said no destruction.

705
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 7: You could see she was focused. She honestly thought she won,

706
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 7: and I think that's the real tragedy of this thought.

707
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 7: I did think she won the fight on both people,

708
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 7: absolutely great fight, But man, the ten eight at that

709
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 7: junction to change it just man, that is that just

710
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 7: smells rotten to me. Man, I don't know what else

711
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 7: to say. There's something, Yeah, Kenny.

712
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 8: How do you feel as a coach seeing a ten

713
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 8: eight like that? You know, heading into corner a guy

714
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 8: you know whenever you're going to be ready. So how

715
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 8: did that make you feel as a coach number one

716
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 8: seeing a ten eight score like that? And then what

717
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 8: do you tell a fighter that did everything possible to

718
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 8: win that fight, won the fight, and then still didn't

719
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 8: get the win.

720
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 7: Man, those are the injustice. Listen, it goes, it always

721
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 7: is going to go back. You can only control how

722
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 7: you react to it, right, I mean we come down

723
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 7: to the same thing all the time, So Valentine has

724
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 7: now got to react to what they've given us. You

725
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,439
Speaker 7: can't control it. And that's all you could say. Man,

726
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 7: I mean that was you know, that's not because it

727
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 7: was such your competitive fight. It's kind of getting overlooked.

728
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 7: But that that's a that's a travesty, man. I mean,

729
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 7: he took that went away from that girl with something

730
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 7: that is bullsy as ship to do. And there's no

731
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 7: way you could have thought that was a ten eight round.

732
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 10: And I don't get I know, he's going to have

733
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 10: to issue a statement. Yeah, I mean, I think he's

734
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 10: going to have to issue a statement.

735
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 7: See. The problem is there's enough wiggle room in there

736
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 7: where you could do that ship and come out with

737
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 7: something and somebody's gonna go, eh, maybe, yeah, okay.

738
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 8: You know, like even if it was a ten eight round,

739
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 8: it would have been ballsy to give her a ten right, right,

740
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 8: and that right, it's.

741
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 7: Like at that point in that freaking fight. Yeah, I

742
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 7: mean there's nothing that I mean, I don't know Valentine

743
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 7: or she had to mounted guillotine at one point too.

744
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 7: That looks pretty freaking tight. Why is that?

745
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: You know?

746
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 7: Why is that not a ten eight?

747
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 10: Like Kenny, You're right.

748
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 7: It's bad. It's actually bad, really bad for a lot

749
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 7: of rero.

750
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 10: Even if this was a border line rap, yeah, that's

751
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 10: like a pull out your testical situation. Five. Yeah, it's

752
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 10: like you know what, Oh my god, you could come home.

753
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 10: My girlfriend's gonna be like, Mike, what have we done done?

754
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 7: The only thing that could have saved Bells if the

755
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 7: other two judges had it for Valentina exactly the L

756
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 7: Yeah you know what I mean? Where but Wayne, I

757
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 7: tell you that's a tough one, man.

758
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 10: I wanta These are my text messages from Ray Longo

759
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 10: on Saturday night. I got three of them. First one insanity, Wow,

760
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 10: I don't know what that's in relation to. The next

761
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 10: one said damn, Tom cruise is relentless l L.

762
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 9: And the next one.

763
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 10: And the next one says ten eight insane. Yeah, so yeah,

764
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 10: Cruisey was on one as usual.

765
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 7: What I You're never gonna stop him. It's impossible. By

766
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 7: the way, this will never end, Kenny, never ever end.

767
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 8: By the way, this is kind of unrelated, but uh,

768
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 8: my daughter was watching a little bit of The Fights

769
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 8: with me and the Toyo Tires commercial came on, and

770
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 8: she was blown away by the fact that John Annak

771
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 8: and Dominica Cruz, who were at our house, like they knew.

772
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 8: She knew that you guys did TV stuff, but when

773
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 8: she saw you do a commercial, She's like, oh my gosh,

774
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 8: I had no idea that they do commercials. You've earned

775
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 8: her respect by the way, let's go to it.

776
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 7: But yeah, anyway, Kenny, isn't that isn't that awesome? Though

777
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 7: they have those moments where they did I think that's

778
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 7: what it was. Blown away.

779
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 8: It's like, oh my gosh, they do commercials.

780
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, but no, cruise, you gotta love him. You actually

781
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 7: have to love him.

782
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 10: No, you have to you yeah, you actually it's gone.

783
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 7: It's gone so far over to the other side. It's

784
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 7: that the stick is unbelievable at this point. Even even

785
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 7: DC tries to back out of there with some grace,

786
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 7: he doesn't let the more off the ug He just

787
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 7: keeps pounding him. But uh, I think, well, first off,

788
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 7: in defense of the referee too, the way his arm

789
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 7: I know it wasn't a and I.

790
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 10: Just set up the context. Yeah, let me just at

791
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 10: the context real quickly for so. No, you're good. So

792
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 10: there was a preliminary fight at Flyway Edgar Chirez Daniel Leserra.

793
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 10: There was a submission up against the fence and the

794
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 10: referee got involved premature stoppage overturned to a no contest

795
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 10: go ahead.

796
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, it was just the way that guy dropped

797
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 7: his arm was kind of the way somebody when they

798
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 7: go out just it just goes from like a one

799
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 7: position to just go on limp. So not that that

800
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 7: means anything, but if that guy's in there to protect

801
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 7: people and he doesn't want to see anybody get choked

802
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 7: for too long whatever was running through, he said, I

803
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 7: think I think that's a lesser offense than the ten eight.

804
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 7: That's all saying.

805
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 9: I do too.

806
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 7: Can I ask you he reacted to something?

807
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 10: You know, Kenny, I don't know if you saw this.

808
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 10: Did you see this?

809
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 9: I did not?

810
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 10: All right, So Chris Tom was the referee, and one

811
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 10: of my broadcast partners who shall remain nameless, texted me

812
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 10: that perhaps LASERA played the game and faked it. He

813
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 10: was getting limp when the ref pulled him off. I agreed,

814
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 10: let him sleep, but he was doing stupid shit. Now

815
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 10: that is the minority opinion. Most people believe that you

816
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 10: have to stay calm in that situation. You can't be

817
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 10: worried about giving the referee a thumbs up. You're trying to,

818
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 10: you know, stay present defensively. I do think they got

819
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 10: it right over turning it ray, but I do think

820
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 10: it speaks to something we were talking about earlier is that,

821
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 10: especially when it comes to the blood chokes, the referees

822
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 10: really need to be put in those at the very

823
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 10: least put in those chokes.

824
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, And I think it's a very different thing than

825
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 8: being in a joint lock, where you could do permanent

826
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 8: damage to a joint as opposed to the neck, where

827
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 8: again we're not trying to hold that for a long

828
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 8: periods of time to put it out, put them out

829
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 8: and create any kind of brain damage. But you know,

830
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 8: a choke, and this is the big misconception. A choke

831
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 8: is way safer, way safer of a control mechanism than

832
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 8: say a joint lock, for a lot of different reasons.

833
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 8: So I think that's one of those things where you

834
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 8: can kind of let it go. But I agree, again

835
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 8: I haven't seen it, but if you are looking like

836
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 8: you're out or looking like your limp, then you kind

837
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 8: of don't give too many options to to the ref

838
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 8: at hand.

839
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 9: Right.

840
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that was a little I think Dom

841
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 7: is really on point. I'm not disagreeing, but I I

842
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 7: could you could at least understand why the ref did

843
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 7: what he did and John to whoever texted you that,

844
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 7: I wouldn't put that past that kid. I un put

845
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 7: it past them. You don't know what's run through these guys' minds.

846
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 7: You just don't know. And uh, they'll they'll gain the

847
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 7: system anyway they can, you know. Uh, look, I thought

848
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 7: even uh and it wasn't even closer. I don't think

849
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 7: I thought Grosso got neat and the head illegally not

850
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 7: not Grosso. Valentina once she had a hand on the floor,

851
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 7: but I guess it wasn't weight bearing. That's a tough

852
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 7: goal to make. But you know, certainly Valentina and it

853
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 7: thinks she could get neat and then she had to

854
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 7: deal with that, so you know, uh, yeah, it's it. Look,

855
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 7: it's it's tricky as long as you have something to

856
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 7: react off of, whether you're right or wrong. I think

857
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 7: at least you're trying to do your job, you know.

858
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 7: Not that all definitely swung down. Who the hell knows,

859
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 7: Maybe something else happens, you don't know, so you can't

860
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 7: choke a guy like that, But maybe something else happens

861
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 7: with him in his arm goes a living. I don't know.

862
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 7: But the way that arm went down, it looked like

863
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 7: it looked like he was was out, you know what

864
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 7: I mean. But Dominic Cruz is one hundred percent right,

865
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 7: But you're starting to ask for a lot, you know.

866
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 7: But yeah, you can put the rests in those chokes

867
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 7: all you want. They'll just probably stop to fight quick

868
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 7: at Kenny.

869
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 10: Yeah, now Edgar, it's like the yeah, now, Edgar Chairo

870
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 10: is probably gonna have to go to South Polo in

871
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 10: November to fight Daniel Leserta in Brazil. It is too

872
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 10: bad times that they can't like restart that fight. But

873
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 10: they certainly can't because they can't put the dude back

874
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 10: in the submission. I guess they could, but you're not

875
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 10: going to do that, all right, Raoul Rosas Junior, Ray Long,

876
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 10: I've been trying to ask you about the eighteen year

877
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 10: old Raoul Rosas Junior. Now, you can be a minus

878
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 10: seven hundred favorite against Terrence Mitchell, but it's another thing

879
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 10: to go out and do it at eighteen years of age.

880
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 10: And I say to this audience all the time, like

881
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 10: I was such an idiot when I was twenty seven.

882
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 10: Now in many respects, my kids would tell you I'm

883
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 10: a lunatic. At forty five, I'm completely unhinged, right, Like

884
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 10: I really am a psychopath. In a lot of ways,

885
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 10: but eighteen years of age to be competing in this setting,

886
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 10: with an entire nation behind you on this night in particular,

887
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 10: you still got to go out and do it. And

888
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 10: then as a submission guy to go knock a motherfucker

889
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 10: out like that? What do you have for us onime?

890
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 9: And coming back after a devastating loss? You know, A loe?

891
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 7: I like what I saw rut of that kid, I

892
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 7: really do. He came out guns blazing. He put that

893
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 7: other loss behind him. Again. I think they matched him

894
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 7: up really well, which is a big part of everything.

895
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 7: A lot of guys don't get that opportunity, but he

896
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 7: got the opportunity and he did exactly what he was

897
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 7: supposed to do. He got rid of that guy. So uh,

898
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 7: you know, Kenny, it's a tricky thing. You could match

899
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 7: guys up to where they're never gonna make it, you

900
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 7: know what I mean. They know, but they gave him,

901
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 7: They gave they they like you. You could tell the

902
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 7: guys they like, you know, the Pimblets, and they always

903
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 7: get like a favorable matchup. So yeah, I like what

904
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 7: I saw of man. He came out guns blazing. Is

905
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 7: his stand up look better? He definitely was more confident

906
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 7: on his feet, he was going forward. I think he

907
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 7: did exactly what a young kid in his position had

908
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 7: to do. I really liked it. In the last fight,

909
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 7: I really didn't like you could see he got he

910
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 7: got exposed, and that that that could happen again. But

911
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 7: you know, if you if you're learning every time you're losing,

912
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 7: like they always say, I mean, and I think he's

913
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 7: in a good spot because, uh, you know, he's not

914
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 7: taking damage. And yeah, what I mean, eighteen years old,

915
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 7: that's that's crazy, that's crazy to handle all that pressure.

916
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 7: I think the kid had. Give him. I give him

917
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 7: an a plus.

918
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 10: On that gets his mom out of his corner. Kenny,

919
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 10: and he's ready to kill a man. But it does

920
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 10: harken me back to the high school All Star photograph

921
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 10: of Kenny Florian. Does it not right? You're talking about,

922
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 10: you know, sixteen years of age. A couple of years later,

923
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 10: that's Kenny Florian versus Raul Rosas junior. Like give me

924
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 10: Raoul Rosas junior. Well, I tell you, I don't know.

925
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 8: Let me tell you that Kenny Florian right there would

926
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 8: have folded like fresh laundry. Right, I'll tell you he

927
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 8: was eighteen years old. He wasn't ready. He wasn't ready.

928
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 8: He was immature.

929
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 7: Look at almost? Where is that is that? Your head

930
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 7: shut from the lords of Flatbush?

931
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 9: What diesh?

932
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 3: Your head?

933
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 7: I look at it?

934
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 9: Sixteen years old?

935
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 7: True?

936
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 10: Do you know what that is?

937
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: Ray?

938
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 10: Have we not told you what that is? That Flatbush

939
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 10: reference went way over my head? What is that? What

940
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 10: is that?

941
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 9: It was?

942
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 7: I think it was Stallone's first movie, you know, one

943
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 7: of those old fifties movies. It was great Man flat Bush.

944
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 7: No nothing I saw.

945
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 10: Oh see that's good. You jeez, you got. I'm a

946
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 10: chem flow born nineteen seventy six, long ago significantly before that.

947
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 10: Let long are you born early sixties or what? Are

948
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 10: you born in the fifties?

949
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 2: Fifties?

950
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 8: So who are we.

951
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 10: Talking to today?

952
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 9: Right?

953
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,479
Speaker 10: I mean, I'm not the pop culture police. They show

954
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 10: celebrities on TV all the time on these UFC telecasts.

955
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 10: I have no idea who these people are. But gosh, man,

956
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 10: I'm sure all your minute men will defend that reference

957
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 10: every day.

958
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 7: I'm basically basically talking to myself. That's what I'm doing.

959
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 10: I do think for Raoul Rosas Junior, it's Instagram. Instagram.

960
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 10: It's interesting because I was on his Instagram after the fight,

961
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 10: and he's got all these live shots all these women.

962
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 10: Ye know, this game that you know, the aourage maybe

963
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 10: isn't quite all the time like twenty deep or whatever.

964
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 10: But Cody just writes in the chat, you know, his

965
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 10: biggest obstacle is going to be what goes on between

966
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 10: the ears. And I do think that the Christian Rodriguez

967
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 10: fight was huge for him in terms of the mental

968
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 10: because he just doesn't want to experience that feeling again.

969
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 10: But my goodness, like you know, women, right, yeah, between

970
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 10: the two obstacles, right between the ears, and like probably

971
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 10: the opposite sex will be something that he's going to

972
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 10: have to navigate because if the world is his oyster

973
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 10: as far as that is concerned, at eighteen years of

974
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 10: age as professional athlete, you know, just gotta be careful,

975
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 10: It's all. I don't know. Maybe yeah exactly, I.

976
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 7: Think I think you're women. Women will take you down.

977
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 7: They could they could be you know, they could be

978
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 7: good for you, they could be bad for you. So

979
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 7: he's going to learn that lesson real quick.

980
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 10: Maybe you guys should go on his Instagram later and

981
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 10: check out some of those uh well lowsos Junior lives

982
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 10: all right, let's talk about the Komine event.

983
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 9: Can we do that? Can we do that?

984
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 7: Yeah?

985
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 10: Jack Dela Matteleno over Kevin Holland by split decision, Ken Flow,

986
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 10: I'll have you lead us off.

987
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 8: Kid Gosh, I nailed another Kevin Holland prediction, didn't I? No,

988
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 8: I did not. I can't get one correct. I jinxed

989
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 8: myself before the last pick because I said it. I

990
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 8: don't know which Kevin Holland is going to show up.

991
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 8: There's certain nights where he looks absolutely phenomenal. He's maximizing

992
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 8: his use of range and length, and he's mixing up

993
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 8: his strikes, and in this one, he just wasn't as

994
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 8: active as I had.

995
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 9: Hoped he would be.

996
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 8: And I also think, you know, I thought it was

997
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 8: a very close fight, but I do think he allowed

998
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 8: Madilena Dela motte Lena to really lead the dance a

999
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 8: little bit too much, and some of those shots weren't landing.

1000
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 8: But it doesn't look good if you're just shelling up,

1001
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 8: you know, going backwards, letting someone throw shots on you,

1002
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 8: even if they're not landing, or if it's skimming off

1003
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 8: the forearms or whatever. You have judges that may not

1004
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 8: be seeing those certain angles and don't know what's what

1005
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 8: and looks like you're moving and you're actually getting hit

1006
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 8: with shots. Now, he also got hit with shots too,

1007
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 8: which doesn't help. But I think that he he just

1008
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 8: allowed Jack Delamotta Atlanta to get a little bit too

1009
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 8: aggressive to back.

1010
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 9: Him up a little bit too much.

1011
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 8: He certainly had his moments, did Kevin Holland, but I

1012
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 8: don't think he did enough to sway the judges to go.

1013
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 8: I absolutely won that round. He kept it close, and

1014
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 8: it looked like he was fighting to preserve rounds as

1015
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 8: opposed to win rounds, and I think that's where he

1016
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 8: may have gone wrong there.

1017
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 9: And this was a huge fight for both these men.

1018
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 8: I mean, you beat someone like Kevin Holland, you beat

1019
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 8: someone like JDM.

1020
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 9: Those are big wins.

1021
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 8: And I just felt like Kevin Holland kind of fell

1022
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 8: short here in a pretty big and important spot.

1023
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's pretty well put. I mean that's the key

1024
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 7: is like who shows up for the fight like you could.

1025
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 2: Here's the problem.

1026
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 7: He he's almost too talented where he's so he gets

1027
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:57,479
Speaker 7: so comfortable he's kind of having you know, like fun

1028
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 7: instead of looking for a w with matt Elena wanted

1029
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 7: the W so he's pressing forward and not that it

1030
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 7: was even doing anything. That's how I think how talented

1031
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 7: Kevin Allen is. But the will, the desire, that burning

1032
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 7: desire to win at any cost, just not seeing you

1033
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 7: know what I mean, he's and it could be because

1034
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 7: he's he's never even in danger because he's super talented.

1035
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 7: I don't know, but you're not getting into that other

1036
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 7: gear for some reason. And that's what he's got to address.

1037
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 7: I mean, I think he's, like again, super talented guy

1038
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 7: that could have won that fight, there's no question about that.

1039
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 7: But you know, I think Jack Della, you know, JDM

1040
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,919
Speaker 7: was the more you know, consistent guy in that fight

1041
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 7: and that's why you got the W.

1042
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 9: Absolutely.

1043
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 8: And I wonder how much it has to do with

1044
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 8: these guys that you know, perceived or or not real

1045
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 8: or whatever where they say, you know, I have to

1046
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 8: be fighting four fights a year, or I have to

1047
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 8: fight every two months, and they have that in their head. Well,

1048
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 8: you know, we've already established this years. It is extremely

1049
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 8: difficult to fight at a high level and be consistent

1050
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 8: with your performances if you're expecting to fight four fights

1051
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 8: a year period. You get one shot, so you've got

1052
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 8: to make sure you're fresh, you're motivated, you're putting in

1053
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 8: a training camp, you're evolving throughout that process, because you know,

1054
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 8: it's a way different thing than say, you know, in

1055
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 8: NFL Sunday, where you have other guys that need to

1056
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 8: rely on. You know, I'm injured, listen to the quarterback

1057
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 8: is gonna have to stand up, you know, step up,

1058
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 8: or the wide receiver or the old line or whatever.

1059
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 8: Like it's just one person in there, and if you

1060
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 8: don't have a great day out there, you're screwed. And

1061
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 8: I think that sometimes that busy schedule can hurt certain fighters.

1062
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 8: And I think that may I'm not trying to build

1063
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 8: in any excuses for anybody, but that may have played

1064
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 8: a factor in out of Sonya, Like who's been more

1065
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 8: busy than out of Sonya? Even aljil Alji didn't want

1066
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 8: to fight at that time. He wanted more time to prepare.

1067
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 8: Why because he's smart, you know it. It helps you

1068
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 8: out to kind of be able to have that time

1069
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 8: in between bites to recover, think things out, don't get

1070
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 8: burnt out, whatever it is for that fighter. And I

1071
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 8: think that could definitely play a factor in guys like

1072
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 8: Kevin Holland who keeps such a busy schedule.

1073
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree one hundred percent. And the Aljo reference

1074
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 7: early is good because you know you could have even

1075
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 7: first round wins. It's the camp that kills you. It's

1076
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 7: pretty grueling. I mean, guys are dropping thirty pounds. It's

1077
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 7: it's look, it's not good for you. Losing that weight

1078
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 7: like that is not You're not going to get a

1079
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 7: doctor around that tells you this is a good thing

1080
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 7: to do. So the more you keep doing it, and

1081
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 7: it depending on where your weight goes after the fight,

1082
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 7: you know, which I don't know what a lot of

1083
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 7: the guys, but you know, to lose twenty five thirty

1084
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 7: pounds that you know, and then you're going to put

1085
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 7: it right back on again not the best thing for you.

1086
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 2: How many times a year can you do that?

1087
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 7: It's like yo yo dieting four times a year where

1088
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 7: you starve yourself and you know what I mean, Like,

1089
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 7: it's never gonna the end result is never.

1090
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 3: Going to be good.

1091
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 7: But you know, everybody, everybody's individual, everybody knows their body.

1092
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 7: Aljo has been very outspoken about it. You know, Like again,

1093
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 7: I think you know, al Jo sometimes says that things

1094
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 7: most people want to say but they don't, and this

1095
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 7: is one of them where he says, look, it's not

1096
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 7: easy for me to make the weight.

1097
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: I need another.

1098
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 7: Month, but nobody gets nobody cares that fellow on Deafi

1099
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 7: is no matter what anybody says, you know, and then

1100
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 7: you know, then they'll entice you with more money, and

1101
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 7: you know, everything is money. Money. Dangle money in front

1102
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 7: of somebody, they'll do anything. You know. Sometimes I'm not

1103
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 7: saying that was the case, but that's the only way

1104
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 7: you could rectify it, you know, is try to sweeten

1105
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 7: the pot a little bit, because most guys don't want

1106
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 7: to do it, you know.

1107
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: And then and then there's the guys that you know, maybe.

1108
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 7: Aren't taking off that much weight where they don't have

1109
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 7: to go through and it's easier for them.

1110
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 10: But even for Kevin Holland and is there a lot

1111
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 10: of Sonya who seem to make the weight cut look easy,

1112
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 10: you're still having to perform at that weight. And I

1113
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 10: know for Kevin Holland in particular, it is a hard cut,

1114
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 10: even though he does it masterfully with Charles with the

1115
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 10: UFCPI and everything else. A couple things on what you

1116
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 10: guys were talking about. Yes, for Holland, balancing activity with

1117
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 10: contention is a very difficult thing and always will be.

1118
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 10: In terms of him being detached from a singular result,

1119
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 10: A lot of our fighter meetings centered on this. Domina

1120
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 10: Cruz was sort of pressing him on it being a

1121
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 10: strength that he doesn't perseverate on the result. But in

1122
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 10: this case, he had won two in a row, right,

1123
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 10: he won five fights in twenty twenty caps On by

1124
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 10: that upkick against Jhaca Sos or whatever. He won the

1125
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 10: fight off his back, whatever he did. Right now, he's

1126
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 10: four or five and one since that time. But in

1127
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 10: this fight, had he wanted, it would be three in

1128
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 10: a row, and given the way he performed against Kiessi,

1129
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 10: it kind of felt like he would bring that sort

1130
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 10: of killer instinct back. Wasn't flapping the gums as much

1131
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 10: in this fight can flow until late was like, hey,

1132
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 10: we should train together, and then it's like, oh, there's

1133
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 10: that alter ego rear and it's ug head again. I

1134
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 10: believe that this kid has the skills and the finishing

1135
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 10: instincts to really excel and contend, but yeah, sometimes he's

1136
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 10: almost too detached from the result where he'll put himself

1137
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 10: in position to perform great training camp cuts the weight well,

1138
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 10: but winning isn't something he prioritized as much as uh,

1139
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 10: you know, maybe going to get tacos afterwards.

1140
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 9: I think that's beautifully said.

1141
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 8: You know, I think there's that balance, right, And I've

1142
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 8: talked to other fighters about this, of having that balance

1143
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,919
Speaker 8: of not caring too much. You don't want to care

1144
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 8: so much that you become neurotic and you're so kind

1145
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 8: of fighting to protect that win, right, and then you'd

1146
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 8: kind of just yourself a fighter, and then you don't

1147
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 8: want to not care at all, where now you don't

1148
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 8: give a shit if you win, lose whatever.

1149
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 9: Right.

1150
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 8: So it's like it's really about finding that balance, and

1151
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 8: that's not an easy thing for a lot of guys, man,

1152
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 8: But yeah, it's the balancing act.

1153
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1154
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 7: And the other thing too is that you know what

1155
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 7: I love about the US See, I don't care what

1156
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 7: fight you are on that card. To me, they're world

1157
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 7: championship fights. They do a great job at really you know,

1158
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 7: highlighting that to me anyway. So if you keep fighting,

1159
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 7: it's almost like you're sparring. Then you lose that the

1160
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 7: excitement of this is a huge fight, you know what

1161
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 7: I mean, just going in there to fight, and then

1162
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 7: it becomes more like a sparing session, which that's what

1163
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 7: it looked like to me with Kevin Hunt looked like

1164
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 7: he was sparring Jack Delam you know, JDM. He didn't

1165
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 7: want to, you know, push it to the next point.

1166
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 7: But you know, like again, only he knows those those questions,

1167
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 7: and he might say we're completely wrong on that, but something,

1168
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 7: something's definitely going on there.

1169
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 9: Well, I think there's a point there.

1170
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 8: And I was talking to this about my you know,

1171
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 8: talking to this with my wife, and I was just

1172
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 8: pointing out some things that Kevin Holland does and you know,

1173
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,399
Speaker 8: there's a lot of things that he does to make

1174
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 8: himself comfortable in a fight. And I think that Cowboy

1175
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 8: Serni used to do this a lot, you know, the

1176
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 8: hogs before the fifth bite. Yeah, it's almost like a

1177
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 8: thing for or him. He does throw you off in

1178
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 8: the process, right because like, hey, we're buddy, we're just

1179
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 8: a sparring. We're just this is a normal thing that

1180
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 8: we're doing right now. Hey, isn't this fun? And it

1181
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 8: kind of allows him to kind of go to a

1182
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 8: different place yes, and he gets he can get his

1183
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 8: opponents to go there as well, and then he just

1184
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 8: takes advantage of him.

1185
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 3: Right.

1186
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 8: So yeah, yeah, you kind of saw that a little

1187
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 8: bit even before the fight.

1188
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 9: I thought it was really smart.

1189
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 8: If you guys notice this JDM Before the fight, he

1190
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 8: goes over and tells, uh, he goes, yeah, tell Kevin Holland,

1191
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 8: We're not this bumping before. Don't shake my hand, I'm

1192
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 8: coming out to fight. Because he didn't want to play

1193
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 8: by Kevin Holland's rules right right during the fight, he

1194
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 8: kind of dragged it back into it. So anyways, I

1195
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 8: thought that was an interesting point which kind of ties

1196
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 8: in which I think, what what Ray is talking about?

1197
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, we're not touching gloves? I love that.

1198
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know it's funny.

1199
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 7: Even the commercial he does with the Wonder Boy, I

1200
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 7: think it sums up both of those guys, you know

1201
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 7: what I mean.

1202
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 10: I think that commercial commercial.

1203
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,479
Speaker 7: Is kind of kind of perfect, right with the drink

1204
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 7: and they put it on the you know, they're just

1205
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 7: two nice guys, but you know, you got to you

1206
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 7: gotta be able to switch gears somewhere. I think he's

1207
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 7: looks like a nice kid. I really don't know him,

1208
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 7: but you know, I think he's he might be having

1209
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 7: too much fun or something happened. But he's got to

1210
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 7: he's got to switch his mindset to just you know,

1211
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 7: I got to go in and start finishing fights.

1212
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 2: And that's my only objective, all right.

1213
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 10: The ray long a minute every week on the anticon

1214
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 10: Florian podcast, I will get you out of here on

1215
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 10: this nineteen seventy four, The Lords of Flatbush was released

1216
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 10: Sylvester stallone Henry Winkler. Set in nineteen fifty eight, the

1217
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 10: coming of age story follows for lower middle class Brooklyn

1218
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 10: teenagers known as the Lords of Flatbush. The Lord's chase girls,

1219
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 10: steel car shoot pool, get in the street, fights, and

1220
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 10: hang out at a local malt shop. You guys both

1221
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 10: have seen that motion picture? Yes, well, oh excuse me, man,

1222
00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 10: I mean I was born in the seventies.

1223
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 9: Jesus fucking go back, Go back and watch.

1224
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 7: It's a great It's a great period piece, the good

1225
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 7: old days where you could rob cause, get laid, steal

1226
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 7: a steal some shit off the stream.

1227
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 10: Okay, go ahead and have some REVOLI Yeah, I'm gonna

1228
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 10: charge to have it. I'm gonna start calling Rabul Roasas Junior,

1229
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 10: the Lord of Clovis, New Mexico.

1230
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 7: Oh, the Lord of Clovis.

1231
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 2: I like clos.

1232
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 10: His nickname is al Nino Problemma, but I think the

1233
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 10: Lord of Clovis has a good ring to it. Let's

1234
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 10: get that going print the shirts. Raoul Roasas Junior, eighteen

1235
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 10: years of age, the Lord of Clovis because Longo's quote

1236
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 10: in nineteen fifties movies.

1237
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 7: That's right, raybe all right, guys, take it easy, and John,

1238
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 7: I expect a full report on the Lords of Flatbush

1239
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 7: by next week.

1240
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 10: I will watch the movie and I'll call you later. Buddy,

1241
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 10: take a right. I'm actually not getting I'm actually not

1242
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 10: gonna call.

1243
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 8: Well.

1244
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 10: I top it on the way out, nice little kicking.

1245
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 10: I'm not gonna call him. That was just for effect.

1246
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 10: All right, we're going to bounce it right back to

1247
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 10: the guest line. Much younger, gentleman going to join us

1248
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 10: right now. And look at this guy, handsome man right there,

1249
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 10: one of the UFC's top welterweight contenders, fresh out the gym,

1250
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 10: or so it appears.

1251
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 3: I'm in the gym. I'm still in the gym right now.

1252
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 3: What's going on, guys, Well.

1253
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 10: If you don't know that voice of that face. He

1254
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 10: is the number nine ranked UFC welterweight out of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

1255
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 10: Sean Brady, we appreciate your time, sir. How you doing

1256
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 10: all right?

1257
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 3: I'm good man. I just got done training with one

1258
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 3: of one of your boys, Paul Felder. Oh yeah, back

1259
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 3: in the gym. We just had a hard session. I'm

1260
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 3: in the back room right now. So he told me

1261
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 3: to tell you guys, what's up.

1262
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 10: That's amazing the iron lung potentially coming back. So I

1263
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 10: was reading about you this morning and I actually should

1264
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 10: have gone into my Sean Brady notes in my fighter

1265
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 10: card library. But so you went to school to be

1266
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,919
Speaker 10: an auto mechanic in northeast Philadelphia? Is that right?

1267
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1268
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 3: And I like my teacher and then I'm like, I

1269
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 3: gotta do something else.

1270
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 2: And this is kind of how where I ended up

1271
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 2: at kind of crazy.

1272
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 10: Do you remember when you sort of and I'm asking

1273
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 10: you to be a little bit maybe conceded here, but

1274
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 10: do you remember when you felt like in your mind like,

1275
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 10: not only could I be a good fighter, but I

1276
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 10: can be a great fighter. I mean, I've heard Paulie

1277
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 10: talk about you superatively strongest guy he's ever filmed. When

1278
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 10: did it click in your mind that you know, not

1279
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 10: only could I be a good fighter, but I might

1280
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 10: really be able to be one of the better ones

1281
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 10: out there.

1282
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean going back to Paul, I was trained

1283
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 3: with Paul. Jonathan Webb was in the UFC at the time.

1284
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 3: We had a bunch of guys just like coming up

1285
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 3: and before they were even in the UFC, they were

1286
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 3: fighting for CFFC, they were getting belts. And I was

1287
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 3: an amateur and I was some of these guys' main

1288
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 3: training partners, you know, And I was twenty twenty one

1289
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 3: years old, and they're like, listen, if you keep your

1290
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 3: head on right, you keep doing what you're doing, you

1291
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 3: can end up where I'm at now. And yeah, I

1292
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 3: just I always just stayed consistent. Like I've seen so

1293
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 3: many groups of guys come in and out of the gyms,

1294
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 3: and one thing I never did is whether we always

1295
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 3: get her we always have injuries, But I always stayed consistent.

1296
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 3: Whenever I can be in the gym, I'd always be

1297
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 3: in the gym. So yeah, I had to be speaking

1298
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 3: of Paul, He's right here. Uh, these guys telling me

1299
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 3: that I can make it happen, and yeah, and that's

1300
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 3: what it was, helping your right ear a.

1301
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 7: Lot of there.

1302
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 3: They were just asking me when I thought I could

1303
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 3: make it as a fighter, and I was telling them

1304
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 3: when I was an amateur and you guys were fighting

1305
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 3: for CFFC and then you guys were going to the UFC.

1306
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 2: I was still young, seventeen Yeah, yeah, huh.

1307
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 7: And the kids is studying John, I can tell me

1308
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 7: that that he truly hasn't.

1309
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 10: Yeah, part of the reason Paulieu started doing try athlons.

1310
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 10: Get away from that, Sean Brady. Now I'm in shape,

1311
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 10: John telling.

1312
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 7: People have been asking a lot evidence. That's all I say.

1313
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 10: Listen, thanks for popping on there for a second. Nah,

1314
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 10: you're the man. So before I let camflow jump in here.

1315
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 10: If you haven't been tracking Sean Brady's every move, Uh,

1316
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 10: pretty significant health scare that started with a small blister

1317
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 10: on your left elbow. And uh, Kenny comes from a

1318
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 10: medical family. I'm not going to read all of these

1319
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 10: medical terms, but I'm glad you're out the other side

1320
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 10: and that. But ultimately, your summer was built towards this

1321
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 10: big fight with a guy that now I think you

1322
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,479
Speaker 10: believe without a shadow of doubt, you're gonna fucking murder,

1323
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 10: and then obviously you have to deal with this health issue.

1324
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 10: So can you walk us through that, if you'd be

1325
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 10: so kind.

1326
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 3: Man, So even like kind of before that, obviously everybody

1327
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 3: knows I had lost the law. I lost my first fight,

1328
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 3: and then after that, I was trying to come back

1329
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 3: super fast. I got him from Abu Dhabi. I started

1330
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 3: right back in the train in run in doing all

1331
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 3: kinds of and I went up tearing my growing and.

1332
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 2: I was taking a fight. I was supposed to fight Pereira,

1333
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 2: Michelle Pereira. We were booked.

1334
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 9: I tore my groin.

1335
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 2: We've rebooked a fight.

1336
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 3: I tore my green again. So I tore my growing twice.

1337
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 3: I tore my adductor and my adductor. I had a

1338
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 3: whole bunch of stuff going on rehabbed. It got back

1339
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 3: scheduled my fight with Jack, I had my I had

1340
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 3: my wedding on a Friday. I started my training camp

1341
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 3: on Monday, like eight weeks out. Started my camp like

1342
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 3: locked in for Jack. Two weeks out from Jack. I

1343
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 3: wake up Monday, I go to train, I go to sleep.

1344
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 3: I wake up and my wife's a nurse and she

1345
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 3: was like, I was like showing her in my arm

1346
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 3: and she's like, yeah, like, you gotta go to the

1347
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 3: hospital because I had back when I was supposed to

1348
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 3: fight Kevin Lee, I had almost the same thing in

1349
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 3: my ankle. Only two times I've ever had infections in

1350
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,439
Speaker 3: my life. They both put me in the hospital and yeah,

1351
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 3: it turned out it wasn't mersey. It was actually some

1352
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 3: type of strip and it could have turned into a

1353
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 3: flesh eating bacteria. But I was in the hospital for

1354
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 3: a week and unfortunately, obviously that pulled me out of

1355
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 3: the fight with Jack And honestly, like my elbow didn't

1356
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 3: get better for at least a month. Like I still

1357
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 3: like my I have a hoodie all but my elbows

1358
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 3: just formed from it. Like my elbows sticks out further

1359
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 3: than it should. So it's been a rough year, but

1360
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 3: it happens. You know, it stinks, but I'm keeping my

1361
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 3: head up. I'm hoping to fight by the end of

1362
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 3: the year. So yeah, that's where I'm at now. I'm

1363
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 3: healthy and I'm just ready to get back to it.

1364
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 3: You know, every fighter has, like can you know every

1365
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 3: fighter has a bad year or a bad moment in

1366
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 3: their in their career in their life. But I'm ready

1367
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 3: to get back to it and I'm ready to get

1368
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 3: back to my winning ways.

1369
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 9: Sean, Yeah, it could be really frustrating. Man.

1370
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 8: Injuries, infections, all those things. What do you rely on

1371
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 8: during those times where I know you want to just

1372
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 8: kind of get in there and compete and come back

1373
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 8: and and prove prove yourself as a great fighter that

1374
01:05:59,200 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 8: you are.

1375
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 3: Just my family, my family and my team and just

1376
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 3: believing in myself and knowing how good I am.

1377
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 2: And that's what sucks.

1378
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 3: I really want to get out because everyone, like my

1379
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 3: team and all the guys I train with, they know

1380
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 3: how good I am. But I want to get back

1381
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 3: out there and show the world and prove it to

1382
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 3: the UFC, improve it to all these people that I

1383
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 3: belong in the top ten and I'm.

1384
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 2: Going to be a UFC champion.

1385
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 3: It's hard to do that when you can't get back

1386
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 3: in there and fight, you know, because of infections and injuries.

1387
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 3: But those things are out of my control, so I

1388
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 3: just focus on the things I can control and just

1389
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 3: believing in myself and my team and knowing that it's

1390
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 3: going to work out and where I'm supposed to be

1391
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 3: I'm going to get there, whether it takes a little

1392
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 3: bit longer.

1393
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 2: I'm only thirty years old.

1394
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 3: I feel like I can do. I feel like I'm

1395
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 3: just getting better. And every year I get older, I

1396
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 3: beat up the younger version of myself. So I'm getting

1397
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 3: better every year. And even if I'm not fighting, I'm

1398
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 3: training my ass off and I'm always getting better. So yeah,

1399
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 3: I'm focused on just getting back in there. And luckily

1400
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 3: I have a great support system, my wife, my family.

1401
01:06:58,240 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 3: Everyone loves me and they just want to see me

1402
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 3: get back in there and do what I do.

1403
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 10: And we just need this division to keep moving along.

1404
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 2: It has one's going on.

1405
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 10: So I thought you had a great quote when the

1406
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 10: fight with Jack Della Mattalena went away. It was sort

1407
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 10: of a mix of class but competitiveness and acknowledgment of

1408
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 10: what was probably a surprising comment from him. You said,

1409
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 10: I'm sorry we won't be able to get to share

1410
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 10: the cage together. I know you worked just as hard

1411
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 10: as me. But as for saying Brady shit the bed,

1412
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 10: I expect that from an internet troll, not a fellow

1413
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 10: fighter himself. So shame on you, and I hope you

1414
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 10: slash none of your teammates have to go through this

1415
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 10: in the future. We'll see each other someday soon. So

1416
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 10: he just fought Kevin Holland. What did you think of

1417
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 10: that contest.

1418
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 3: I'm not in like the like fighters come on here

1419
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 3: or any other and they shit on each other. You

1420
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 3: know every time you get in there, it's not going

1421
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 3: to be your best night. I didn't think it was

1422
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 3: the best performance from either one of them, but it

1423
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 3: was a good fight. Yeah, I don't know, like I

1424
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 3: expected a little bit more from each one of them.

1425
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 3: And then when I took the Jack fight, people, they

1426
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 3: get on these hype trains and then they everyone was like,

1427
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 3: you're going to get knocked out this And then they

1428
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 3: seen jackfight Basil and they're like, oh shit, this guy

1429
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 3: kind of got exposed. And I'm like, I've known this.

1430
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 3: I've known his takedown defense wasn't the best. I'm not

1431
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 3: out here just taking fights that I don't think I

1432
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:19,719
Speaker 3: can win. I know I can beat the best guys

1433
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 3: in the world, so I've already seen those stations. I

1434
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 3: think Jack's a great fighter, but do I think I

1435
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 3: can beat him one hundred percent? Do I think I

1436
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 3: can beat Kevin Holland one hundred percent. But yeah, it

1437
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 3: was a good fight. But this division, like I really

1438
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 3: don't know what's going on because me and Vicente Luke

1439
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 3: we've been dming back and forth trying, like we both

1440
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 3: agreed to fight. I want to fight in November at

1441
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 3: the MSG card. He said, listen, give me a little

1442
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 3: bit more time. I just fall RDA. Would you want

1443
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,679
Speaker 3: to fight in December? Super respectful. We both said yeah,

1444
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 3: and uh so, I have no idea what's going on.

1445
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 3: I'm just at this point, I'm just training and whatever

1446
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 3: they bring to me, I'll be ready.

1447
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 10: It is good. I guess in some way that the

1448
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 10: division is where it's at because I think you're coming

1449
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 10: back at a really good time. But hopefully Sente Luke

1450
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 10: or Jack Dela Mattelana. The one thing about Jack, you

1451
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 10: at least know that he's wanting to fight all the

1452
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 10: goddamn time, you know, Yeah, that.

1453
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 3: Him, He's always won the fight, and there's so many

1454
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 3: good matchups, and like the division's the best it's ever been.

1455
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 3: We just got to get we got to get some

1456
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 3: flights booked, you know. And like me mea Vicente, I'm nine,

1457
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 3: he's ten. We're right next to each other. I know

1458
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 3: there's a December or second card, they haven't announced where

1459
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 3: it's at yet, and then I know there's one at

1460
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 3: the end of the month in Vegas, so there's there's

1461
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 3: options out there. But I'm sure I'll be hearing something soon.

1462
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 3: I think they were waiting for that Jack Della fight

1463
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 3: to happen to see kind of how things shake out.

1464
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 2: So we'll see.

1465
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 10: You have c welts Way contender Sean Brady with us

1466
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 10: here on the Anakan Florian podcast at Sean Brady Mma

1467
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 10: on Instagram. If you are so inclined, uh, to what

1468
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 10: extent are you a Philadelphia sports fan? I mean the

1469
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 10: iron lung. Paul Felder couldn't name ten Philadelphia athletes to

1470
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 10: save his life.

1471
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 3: I'm not the best. I'm so Leane obviously. Lane Johnson

1472
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 3: plays for the Eagles. Jalen Hurts. We have the same

1473
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 3: strength and conditioning coach. So I'm actually getting I'm getting

1474
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 3: ready to go to Lane's house after this. Uh my

1475
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 3: stret coach does all of his work out of his house.

1476
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 3: I'm I'm pretty cool with those guys. So I'm a

1477
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 3: huge Eagles fan. We're two and oh yeah, Rocky Start,

1478
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 3: Rocky Start but we're still two O. So we got

1479
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 3: we got the Phillies. So I'm getting more into the sports.

1480
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm so locked in with MMA, and there's

1481
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 3: so much going. I try to watch UFC, PFL, Bellator,

1482
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 3: It's it's so much content, it's so it's brew it's

1483
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 3: so hard to keep up. But I'm a I'm a

1484
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 3: die hard martial arts fan.

1485
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 10: So it's a great that's a great answer. I ask

1486
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 10: it really because it's a great time to be a

1487
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 10: Philadelphia school. Yeah, you feel like the Eagles have a

1488
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 10: great chance to get back to the super Bowl and

1489
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 10: the Phillies have a great chance to make a run

1490
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 10: in the playoffs. But I have a few more minutes

1491
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 10: with Sean Brady, so I'll table that stuff for now.

1492
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 10: So a couple of quick ones for you on the

1493
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 10: way out by your sell. Leon Edwards makes it's his

1494
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 10: first title defense before twenty twenty four.

1495
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 3: I hope, So, I know, I think so, and listen, Kobe,

1496
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 3: Kobe might beat him. Kobe's you can shoot on Kobe

1497
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 3: all you want. I know a lot of people do.

1498
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 3: I'm not the biggest fan of him, but he's got

1499
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 3: a style that could beat Leon.

1500
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, it just has it just has to happen, though,

1501
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think it will happen. I think that happen.

1502
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 9: I do too.

1503
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 10: On December sixteenth, who so if to save a dog's life,

1504
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 10: who wins that fight? Leon Edwards Kobe Covington Kobe, I'm

1505
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 10: not going to kill a dog if Leon wins, but

1506
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 10: that's in And then I guess if you could hand

1507
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 10: pick a fight, right, I know Vicente Luke is next, right,

1508
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 10: but Kobe Covington would be a huge fight for you, right.

1509
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 10: A Blow Muhammad rematch obviously would be a big fight.

1510
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 10: So maybe internally the future that's the future is maybe

1511
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 10: internally for you, like the Blow rematch, if he could

1512
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 10: become even an interim champion, that'd be.

1513
01:11:59,479 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 2: Big for you.

1514
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 10: And yeah, like what's the dream fight for you? Like

1515
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 10: in terms of the big name that you'd like to

1516
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,879
Speaker 10: go pluck or is it the Blow rematch?

1517
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 9: What is the big fight for you?

1518
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 3: I mean Belall is obviously the one. Obviously I want

1519
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 3: to get back and I respect the law. I think

1520
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 3: he just obviously he beat me, super good fighter, but

1521
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 3: I think that was just he had the best night

1522
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 3: of his life. I had the worst night of my life,

1523
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 3: and I know eventually we'll get back to it, but

1524
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 3: I would, like, I really want Vicente, Like I really

1525
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 3: like that's like I think we're right next to each other.

1526
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 3: I think that's what would get me to next, the

1527
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 3: next level. You know, I need to I need to

1528
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 3: get a top ten win, and that's what I would

1529
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 3: I was honestly hoping RDA won that fight because I

1530
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 3: have so much respect for RDA and he's such a legend,

1531
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 3: Like I want, I want my legend fight, you know.

1532
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 3: So like if Damie and I was still ranked. I

1533
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 3: was trying to get a grapple on match with Damien recently.

1534
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 3: But uh, and it's out of just pure respect for

1535
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 3: these guys, you know, Like I just want everyone gets

1536
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 3: their legends fight.

1537
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I wish you would have pulled it out.

1538
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 3: But Gilbert Burns, Like Gilbert's a fucking legen and all

1539
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 3: these guys, so yeah, Gilbert would be awesome.

1540
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 2: There's just so many guys.

1541
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 10: Well, I think we might be staring at a budding legend,

1542
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 10: Sean Brady number nine in the world right now, and

1543
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 10: poise for what I believe is a big twenty twenty four.

1544
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 10: We certainly hope to see you later this year, my man,

1545
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 10: and we appreciate you hopping on with us. We'll let

1546
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 10: you get back to it and stay healthy, my man.

1547
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 10: We'll see you down the road.

1548
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, Kenny, and thank you. I appreciate you guys.

1549
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:22,560
Speaker 3: Have a go on.

1550
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 9: Thank Thank you.

1551
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 10: Brother. There he is you absolutly wealthy. A contender out

1552
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 10: of Philadelphia, PA. Sean Brady with us today here on

1553
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 10: the Anak and Florian podcast. Really good dude, and health

1554
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 10: is wealth obviously, and he mentioned the growing thing that's

1555
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 10: a nasty injury, and you see how mentally strong an

1556
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 10: individual he is. I can just say, as the terrible

1557
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 10: maybe high school athlete that I was, dude, I dealt

1558
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 10: with a nagging groin my high school basketball junior year,

1559
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 10: just brutal, man like it just absolutely one of the

1560
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 10: worst injuries my understanding, it's one of the worst ones.

1561
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 8: I remember what George Saint Pierre was dealing with an

1562
01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:00,719
Speaker 8: ad douctor issue, and it's so easy to re injure

1563
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 8: and then you think you're totally fine and then it

1564
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 8: tears again. So that is very common because you think

1565
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 8: you're okay. So that's unfortunate. He sounds like he's good spirits,

1566
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 8: he's healthy. Can't wait to see him back then. It

1567
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 8: seems like a really good dude.

1568
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,719
Speaker 10: One thing that I do think is different about Boston

1569
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 10: and Philadelphia in a broad sense of sports towns. And

1570
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 10: I'm not banging on Philadelphia whatsoever. Kenny wasn't the biggest

1571
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 10: Boston sports fan in the world at every moment of

1572
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 10: his life, and certainly there were times during your career

1573
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 10: where you couldn't have cared less about the Boston Celtics.

1574
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,560
Speaker 10: But you are unmistakably a Boston sports fan now and

1575
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,600
Speaker 10: completely locked into the Patriots. And it is interesting for me.

1576
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 10: A lot of these guys from Philly. I thought Sean

1577
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 10: and he was a little bit of a step up

1578
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 10: than Felder, you know, but like if Paul Felder's brother

1579
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 10: Tommy is fucking locked in, you can be sure it's

1580
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 10: interesting for me. A lot of these guys in a

1581
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 10: rabid Philadelphia sports town like Philly, they don't really give

1582
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 10: a rip.

1583
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 9: Right, Yeah, well, yeah, I think it's that.

1584
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 8: And I also think that, you know, just Sean Brady's credit,

1585
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 8: you know, it's like he's so locked into the Anima game,

1586
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 8: and he's such a student of the game. He's trying

1587
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 8: to consume everything and.

1588
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 9: I love that too. But yeah, it's hard, man.

1589
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 8: But Boston, dude, Boston's a different level as far as

1590
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 8: sports fan and you know.

1591
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 10: Anyways, yeah, all right, we're going to get to Brian

1592
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 10: Petrie in about sixty seconds. But I just wanted to

1593
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 10: make sure you didn't have anything else on the eighteen

1594
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:25,480
Speaker 10: year old Raoul Rosas Junior because this is a phenomenon

1595
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 10: to me. He walks into our fighter meeting room and

1596
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 10: there is something undeniably special about it. I'm not saying

1597
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 10: I get starstruck around an eighteen year old boy, right,

1598
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 10: But to come back from this Christian Rodriguez loss in

1599
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:44,719
Speaker 10: this manner against any man right hand picked matchup or otherwise,

1600
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 10: I know, long ago reference Patty pimblet. But you know there,

1601
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 10: you know, you do easier than Terence Mitchell if you're

1602
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 10: really trying to get a guy a win. I know

1603
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 10: he's a massive favorite, but you still got to go

1604
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:58,600
Speaker 10: out there and do it, and to do it with

1605
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 10: style points like that. I don't know, man, I'm here

1606
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 10: for it. I'm here for the Raul Rosas Junior show.

1607
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 10: I don't think he'll be still fighting in the UFC

1608
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 10: when he's thirty six. But I'm here for it.

1609
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 7: Bro.

1610
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 8: Here's the thing, Like I kept growing till I was

1611
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 8: like nineteen twenty, I do everything late.

1612
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 9: I do everything late.

1613
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 8: So the fact that this kid is eighteen years old

1614
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 8: in a man's sport. This isn't like tennis, okay, this

1615
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 8: isn't soccer, where you know, we see that's commonplace where

1616
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 8: physicality can kind of get around. This is a big

1617
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 8: deal that an eighteen year old is fighting.

1618
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:31,719
Speaker 9: At a professional level.

1619
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 8: And it's also one of those situations where it's it's

1620
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 8: sink or swim too right, because you can get into

1621
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 8: the UFC too early, things get mismanaged and now you're

1622
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 8: out of there in the lower leagues and then people remember,

1623
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 8: oh that there was some Rosos guy who was in there.

1624
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 8: So you know the fact that he's in there and

1625
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 8: he's doing well and it seems like he's you know,

1626
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 8: staying focused. The question is can he stay focused right

1627
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 8: with all that's going on in his life. That's going

1628
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 8: to be critical and not an easy thing to manage.

1629
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 8: And I go back to, you know, Mike Tyson when

1630
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 8: he was champion of the world. You know, at such

1631
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 8: a young age, trying to manage all of that, the youth,

1632
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 8: you know, the hormones, the fame, the.

1633
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 9: Money, the women, all those things. It is not an

1634
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 9: easy thing.

1635
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 8: And the fact that he's competing at the highest level

1636
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 8: right now in the UFC with all those eyeballs watching,

1637
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 8: I wouldn't be able to do it at least I'm

1638
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 8: pretty sure I wouldn't be able to do it at eighteen.

1639
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 9: So yeah, it is very remarkable that he's able to

1640
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 9: pull it all together well.

1641
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 10: And the good news is he really is a true

1642
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 10: martial artist, talking about choke variations and a lot of

1643
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 10: drills and making submission adjustments. And I think the nature

1644
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 10: of his training camp for Sea Rod was so bad

1645
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 10: that he can feed off of that, right that I

1646
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 10: know what I didn't do during a training camp that

1647
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 10: resulted in a loss, and even at eighteen, I find

1648
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 10: that to be hugely valuable for him. The other thing

1649
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 10: is that you know, he's got a mean streak and

1650
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 10: he's a little bit of a right, which I think

1651
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:07,719
Speaker 10: is good. Everybody, I think, in like the public sees

1652
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 10: that he'll willingly get on a microphone and say things like, oh,

1653
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 10: I'm just here to take out the trash for Dana White, right, Like,

1654
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 10: this dude doesn't care about your feelings and he's true

1655
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 10: to who he is and that side of him you

1656
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 10: see it in his post fight interviews. So I don't know, man,

1657
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 10: I just think he has an edge. Maybe that's a

1658
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 10: better way to put it. Like, he definitely has an

1659
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 10: edge to him even though he's only eighteen. So very

1660
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 10: excited to see the future for Raoul Rosas Junior. All Right,

1661
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 10: it is time to spin this thing forward. We got

1662
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 10: another UFC fight night coming up this weekend, so we're

1663
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 10: going to call on the able mind of Brian Petrie

1664
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 10: or Handicapper from the MMA podcast to help us with

1665
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 10: our main event challenge and our pronunciation of the week.

1666
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 10: And it's good to see you. Are you and Ken

1667
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 10: Folk excited for a dark week? You guys are making

1668
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 10: a lot of predictions. We get through rafaelfazebe matzaous Gama,

1669
01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 10: you guys get a week off.

1670
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 6: I mean, right now, it sounds nice, but then by

1671
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 6: like Tuesday, Wednesday, I'll be like, man, I want you know,

1672
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 6: I like to make you exactly some fights, you know

1673
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 6: what I mean. But no, we're we've been we've been

1674
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 6: lights out Ken Flow and I so yeah, it's good.

1675
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,560
Speaker 9: Yeah. See here's the thing. BP's kind of on a

1676
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 9: roll right now.

1677
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 8: I need a reset, so I might need this dark

1678
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 8: week to kind of reset, refresh, you.

1679
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 7: Know what I mean.

1680
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 10: Makes sense. We're giving you the whole week off. The

1681
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 10: anicon Florian podcast is going to be dark. It's one

1682
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:30,040
Speaker 10: of I think two scheduled dark weeks the entire year.

1683
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:34,560
Speaker 10: I'm going on vacation shutting it down, and we'll be

1684
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 10: back the first week of October. But we have work

1685
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 10: to attend to until we get there. We have a

1686
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 10: pronunciation of the week. It involves our main event athlete.

1687
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 10: It is not Raphael Fhazive. This man is a Polish mauler.

1688
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 10: This is my favorite division in the UFC, not because

1689
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 10: Ken Flow fought for the lightweight title three times. I

1690
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 10: tried on my one more Ramp Kem Flow T shirt

1691
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 10: before the show today. I looked a little tight, so

1692
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 10: I didn't wear it. But I love this division and

1693
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 10: I love this main event so much, and I really

1694
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 10: love hearing Brian Petrie attempt to pronounce names like this

1695
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 10: so Polish fighter yeh, Polish Fighters suggests to us that

1696
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 10: we can't even as Americans say these names. So what

1697
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 10: do you have for us? On Phaziv's opponent, Brian.

1698
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 6: You know what's so funny is the hardest fight for

1699
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 6: me to pick. So I did a ton of tape

1700
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 6: study and completely ignored how they pronounced it. So I

1701
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 6: didn't mute or anything. I just my dumb brain was like, Eh,

1702
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 6: so I'm gonna go mentous Gamrock.

1703
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 10: Well, you got the last name right for your purposes

1704
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 10: and the main event challenge. All you need to master

1705
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 10: is the last name. Sure, Gamrock. First name was butchered

1706
01:20:36,360 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 10: like the local guy cutting up red meat. Cody, do

1707
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 10: you have the file for us?

1708
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 11: My name is Mateos Game, My nik name is Guimera.

1709
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 11: My my name is Manteos Game. My nique name is Gamera.

1710
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 10: Okay, great, Kenny, Yes, Mattas He says his first name

1711
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 10: so clear that every time I hear anyone else say

1712
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 10: mattheus or he says Mattaus clearly twice. Yeah, it feels

1713
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 10: like it's pretty easy to mimic that sound. No, right,

1714
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 10: yeahut Mataus camera fighting Raphael Phazeve. We'll get into the

1715
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 10: odds for UFC Fight Night here At a moment first,

1716
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 10: want to update the standings. Positive week for Brian Petrie

1717
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 10: plus two hundred and ninety two dollars takes you to

1718
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 10: minus thirteen oh six on the year. Nice That included

1719
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 10: a four unit whack on Jack Dela Batlena ken Flow

1720
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 10: one in three, a three unit loser on Kevin holland

1721
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 10: minus five sixteen for the week puts you at minus

1722
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 10: forty three seventy nine. Ken Flow's gonna have to take

1723
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 10: some chances if he's going to avoid cracking a beer

1724
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 10: bottle over his head. Reminder, if you put rocks in

1725
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 10: the beer bottle first, it'll soften up up the glass

1726
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 10: before you and Cody smash those over your head. I

1727
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 10: also thought if you guys wanted to just like staple

1728
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 10: your head instead work too. I don't know if that's

1729
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 10: you know, ever done by it. There are options. Just

1730
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 10: know that you'll want to not get a haircut for

1731
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 10: a few weeks before you pay this off with me

1732
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 10: and Keecher. Well all right. First election at featherweight Charles

1733
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 10: Air Jordaane minus one forty eight taken on Hikardo Homos

1734
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:19,679
Speaker 10: plus one twenty four. Jordaane has been very active Bry

1735
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 10: for three times in twenty twenty one, three times in

1736
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:24,719
Speaker 10: twenty twenty two, and coming off what I thought Brian

1737
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 10: was a real clean win over Crome Gracie UFC two

1738
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 10: eighty eight back in May, and now he draws Homos,

1739
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 10: who's also coming off a win, but his was all

1740
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 10: the way back in June of twenty twenty two over

1741
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 10: Danny Chabez Bonus winning knockout at that What do you

1742
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 10: have horse on this one?

1743
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 9: VP? Yeah?

1744
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 7: I like this fight.

1745
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,560
Speaker 6: This is a really good matchup. Unfortunately, Charles Urnand is

1746
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 6: not going to get credit enough credit for his winner

1747
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 6: for Chrome Gracy, because everyone's gonna be like, what the

1748
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 6: fuck was Crome Gracy doing in a night fight? What

1749
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 6: is this nineteen ninety five? But I think Jordan's still

1750
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 6: a young fighter. He's talented. He is a black belt

1751
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 6: on other's levels that his wrestling is the one thing

1752
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 6: that I think he will needs to work on wrestling defense,

1753
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 6: that is and Ricard Homos or Homos here explosive spinning attacks.

1754
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 6: He likes to grapple a little bit nowadays too. He

1755
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 6: took Bill Algio down eight times. I think Bill Aljios

1756
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 6: long for the division. Charles Jordan not quite as long,

1757
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 6: but very similar body types. I like Jordan striking. I

1758
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 6: think he's more precise. I think he's more technical. Homos

1759
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 6: is more explosive. I do think Homos has the X

1760
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 6: factor on taking his fight to the ground. Everything's leading

1761
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 6: me to take the dog. But I can't pick against

1762
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 6: Charles Jordaan. I like this guy. I think he's talented.

1763
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be a close fight, not gonna

1764
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 6: put a lot of money on. It probably goes to

1765
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 6: decision and we're gonna see what kind of judges show up.

1766
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 10: But I like Jordan kem Flow, Charles Jordaine, Hickardo, Homos.

1767
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 10: Who do you like?

1768
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1769
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,799
Speaker 8: You know. In regards to Jordaane's last fight against Kron,

1770
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 8: I think that the positive was was that he was

1771
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 8: disciplined and he was clearly the better fighter, no question

1772
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:57,639
Speaker 8: about that. But I think in past fights he doesn't

1773
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 8: always stay disciplined. It's almost like I want to be

1774
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 8: more exciting. That trumps everything else, So I'm going to

1775
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 8: be that dude. And the fact that he was disciplined,

1776
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 8: he was focused, he didn't get out of his game plan,

1777
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 8: I thought was a really solid sign. Now he's going

1778
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 8: to getst a guy in Homos who I think could

1779
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 8: really pose some problems. They are very similar in their

1780
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 8: approach and how they fight a little bit. I think

1781
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 8: they're similar in skill, and because that, I'm just kind

1782
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 8: of gonna lean on the underdog a little bit here

1783
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 8: in Homos. I could see either of these guys winning

1784
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 8: this fight, but when I see this fight that's very

1785
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 8: closely contested.

1786
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 9: I'm going to lean towards the dog here.

1787
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,799
Speaker 10: Homos got injured late twenty twenty two. Then he missweight

1788
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 10: for a scheduled fight with Austin Lingo earlier this year,

1789
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 10: so his first start of the year, we'll see how

1790
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:42,200
Speaker 10: it goes against Charles Jordain. That brings us to Brian

1791
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 10: Battle minuts one eighty against AJ Fletcher plus one fifty

1792
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:49,520
Speaker 10: in the welterweight division. So Battle coming off that monumental

1793
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 10: fourteen second knockout of Gabe Green in front of Kenny

1794
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 10: Florian in Charlotte, North Carolina. Now he spends it forward,

1795
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 10: takes on Lafayette, Louisiana's AJ Fletcher, who is built like

1796
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 10: the side of a backyard shed. It is Kenceler is

1797
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 10: going to lead us off here.

1798
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 9: Who do you love?

1799
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 10: Brian battlemanus one ady A J. Fletcher plus one fifty.

1800
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 9: Yeah this is interesting man. Yeah A J. Fletcher is Jack.

1801
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 8: I think he can go into bodybuilding if this whole

1802
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 8: fighting thing doesn't work out.

1803
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 9: But yeah, you know, I like Brian Battle here.

1804
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 8: I think he's the favorite for a reason, you know,

1805
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 8: repping repping the Carolinas, and I think that he's turned

1806
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 8: into a very dynamic and dangerous fighter. I think that

1807
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 8: as long as he's leading the dance and staying aggressive,

1808
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 8: I think he wins this fight.

1809
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 10: So give me Battle Fletcher. I mentioned what a bull bry.

1810
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 10: You gotta like this, AJ Fletcher. I mean he's one

1811
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 10: and two in the USA thus far, trying to make

1812
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 10: it two wins in a row here against Brian Battle.

1813
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just wish you had longer arms. You know,

1814
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 6: he's got those alligator arms, which it hinders them because

1815
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 6: he likes to stand up. You know, you think this

1816
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 6: guy's built like a wrestler. You know, he takes a

1817
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 6: couple of people down, but he's not primarily wrestling. He's

1818
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 6: explosive and gases himself out.

1819
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:01,560
Speaker 3: All that.

1820
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 6: All those beats, muscles, they need oxygen, right, and Brian Battle,

1821
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 6: I think has gotten leaps better since The Ultimate Fighter.

1822
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 6: I think this guy is is clean on the feet,

1823
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 6: He's got a nasty head kick.

1824
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 9: You know.

1825
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 6: He fought We're We're not fuckerden Off and got bullied

1826
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 6: balled in that fight. But that dude's a special, special guy.

1827
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 6: And Brian Battle came back mentally strong, said I'm gonna

1828
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 6: go out there. I'm gonna do my thing. I think

1829
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 6: he has a J. Fletcher here, could be a finish possibly, Uh,

1830
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,639
Speaker 6: Fletcher is tough, but I do think Battle maybe maybe

1831
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 6: late round, second, third round. Fletcher slows down. Battle doesn't

1832
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,679
Speaker 6: slow down. Give me Brian Battle gotta change that nickname.

1833
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 6: I mean, has there ever been a nickname that ends

1834
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 6: and ends in uh, you know, like Brian Battle test it,

1835
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 6: you know what I mean? Like, that's a good nickname.

1836
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 10: So what is his nickname?

1837
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 9: Who bear? Yeah?

1838
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 10: No good? So yeah, Brian Battle tests it. I Like,

1839
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 10: I've talked about this too. If Johnny Walker, right, Johnny

1840
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 10: Walker's on the cusp of contention, legitimately, just grab blue

1841
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 10: or black and put it on the end of your name.

1842
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:08,640
Speaker 10: Gordon Hambruce Buffer announced it is Johnny Walker blue, you know,

1843
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 10: and Pop'll be like what Johnny Walker Blue everybody be

1844
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 10: talking and the fact that you're dropping a renat Fokerdinov

1845
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,640
Speaker 10: just speaks to your elevated confidence when it comes to

1846
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 10: the pronunciation game.

1847
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 6: I'm getting better, boys, I'm getting the marvels are starting

1848
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 6: to slowly fall out of the mouth. Starting to get

1849
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:24,440
Speaker 6: a little better, boys.

1850
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 9: All right?

1851
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:29,680
Speaker 10: Rematch alert Strawweight division, Like why is he screaming? Why

1852
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 10: is he screaming? People who don't listen to this podcast

1853
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:34,680
Speaker 10: and then do for the first time are like, what

1854
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 10: is this guy's problem? Like on TV? He seems ah

1855
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 10: Strawweight rematch guys. Marina Hadriguez minus three to ten Michelle

1856
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 10: Waterson Gomez plus two point fifty. First fight was a

1857
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:50,639
Speaker 10: main event at flyweight at the Ufcapex that was in Enterprise, Nevada.

1858
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:53,599
Speaker 10: By the way, Rodriguez won that fight rather dominantly. I thought,

1859
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 10: now they run it back down ten pounds. So Hadriguez

1860
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 10: went from winning four in a Rowbrie to now being

1861
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 10: in danger of Lou was in three in a row.

1862
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 10: Big spot for her, but a huge price. I tend

1863
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 10: to see some value on that Waterston Gomez side at

1864
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:10,639
Speaker 10: plus two fifty, How do you see it? Brian, Yeah,

1865
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 10: I think.

1866
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 6: I think you're one hundred percent right. I'm good to

1867
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 6: go with mahe and iiez because I love saying her

1868
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 6: name and I crashed it. But her box, she's she's

1869
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 6: zero and two in her last two, which is you know,

1870
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 6: ran into her right hand on Lemos and then dropped

1871
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 6: the decision. She's getting up there in age a little bit.

1872
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 6: But I still think she's really clean on the feet.

1873
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 6: She's so polished on the feet. And uh with the

1874
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 6: karate haughty, you know, with that with that Boston accent,

1875
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 6: and you can drop really good Uh. Michelle Gomez Water Watterson,

1876
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 6: gome excuse me. She's starting to get really just nails

1877
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 6: in there. Right before it was like this pretty striking throw.

1878
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 6: Some cool kicks didn't like the firefight. Now she lives

1879
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 6: in the firefights. She's proven to be extremely durable. Has

1880
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 6: some problems on the ground with some submission. Don't think

1881
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 6: that's gonna be a problem here. Michelle Watterson also likes

1882
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 6: to take the fight to the ground, herself laying at

1883
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,719
Speaker 6: one takedown in the first fight. She's doing that more.

1884
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 6: Hopefully it's not the head an arm throw, because you

1885
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 6: know that's gonna get countered, you know what I mean.

1886
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 6: We gotta wait to clean those up. But I think

1887
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 6: there's tremendous value in Waterston for sure. But I'm gonna

1888
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 6: go mean out of you as because I just think

1889
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 6: she's cleaner, more polished, has the win over Waterson as well.

1890
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 6: And yeah, I just I don't know. I gotta feel

1891
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 6: like it is.

1892
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 10: It is a high price.

1893
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 6: I think it is the parlay piece. There's two other

1894
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 6: female fights on this card. I think you can throw

1895
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 6: it in a you know, I know, chicks parlay. If

1896
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 6: you want to go all chicks, uh something like that,

1897
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 6: we we can do that. But give me, give me,

1898
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 6: how do you guess that's kid there?

1899
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 10: Yes, the the way you said Marina Hadriguez that first time, Bro,

1900
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 10: I can't even listen to the analysis that follows. I'm

1901
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 10: just so mesmerized. You gave Cody another sound bite right there.

1902
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:49,799
Speaker 10: Second time you said it too, closing out the selection.

1903
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 10: You could probably fucking cut that one up too, but

1904
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 10: we got to move on Ken Flow Watterson. Gomez has

1905
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 10: not won since a split decision. Not it came against

1906
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:02,480
Speaker 10: Angela Hill back into twenty twenty, but very competitive competitive.

1907
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 10: She was in a split decision loss to Luana Panero

1908
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 10: in Miami back in April, and I really have leaned

1909
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 10: into a lot of what Brian was just saying. She

1910
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 10: lives in the firefight now. That has been a switch

1911
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 10: flip for Waterson Gomez. She's always been tough, but she

1912
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 10: just seems to really enjoy the taste of her own

1913
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 10: blood these days, and I think some might see value

1914
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 10: on her plus two point fifty, the line continues to

1915
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 10: climb towards Marina Hadriguez. Which way you're going here, absolutely

1916
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 10: and I agree, And I.

1917
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 8: Think she kind of needs to do that here in

1918
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 8: this fight against Marina Rodriguez, and I do think it's

1919
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 8: going to be a difficult fight for her. I don't

1920
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:43,759
Speaker 8: love the numbers on Rodriguez here, but Michelle Waterson Gomez

1921
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 8: does have a path to victory. I just feel like

1922
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 8: her game plan is going to have to be absolutely

1923
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 8: perfect here, and I do think she has some advantages

1924
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 8: of she able to put Hodriguez on her back. I

1925
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 8: just don't think she's gonna be able to do it

1926
01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 8: enough and consistently enough to win this fight. I think

1927
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:03,679
Speaker 8: Hordriguez is gonna is kind of the more well rounded

1928
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 8: striker she's a little bit more versatile on the feet,

1929
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 8: and I think that you have to believe that she'd

1930
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 8: been working on her takedown defense in the last couple

1931
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:13,680
Speaker 8: of fights. Both these women on a losing streak. Here,

1932
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 8: very very important fight, but I like Codriguez here all right.

1933
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 10: That brings us to the co main event. Back to you, Petriot.

1934
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:23,639
Speaker 10: Featherweight tenth rank, Bryce Mitchell minus two to oh five.

1935
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:27,560
Speaker 10: We have seen this price steadily climb on DraftKings sportsbook

1936
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 10: towards Mitchell twelfth rank. Danny Gay plus one seventy was

1937
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 10: plus one forty twenty four hours ago. Now he can

1938
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 10: be had plus one seventy. He's won two in a

1939
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 10: row and that team's got a lot of momentum right now.

1940
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 10: Sean Strickland, Daniel zell Huber, among others. Mitchell, on the

1941
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 10: other side, has dealt with some injuries, some ailments, but

1942
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,639
Speaker 10: he returns here does so with much fanfare. Bry He's

1943
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,599
Speaker 10: fifteen and one lone career loss, of course, came against

1944
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:54,880
Speaker 10: Ila Topuria. He was far less than one hundred percent.

1945
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:56,640
Speaker 10: I'm not trying to take away from the Spaniard, but

1946
01:31:57,120 --> 01:31:59,640
Speaker 10: his health was an issue for that fight, and then

1947
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 10: he had to pull out of a fight against Mobster.

1948
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 10: You have Loyev due to a back injury, famously replaced,

1949
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:06,600
Speaker 10: of course by Diego Lopez. But now Thug Nasty is

1950
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:09,320
Speaker 10: backbry And is a two to one favorite here against

1951
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 10: Danny Gayer thoughts, I feel.

1952
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 6: Like I'm getting punked. I feel like John is gonna

1953
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 6: take off a mask and it's gonna be legendary coach

1954
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 6: Diego Stanton's coach, Josher Faiball.

1955
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 10: I feel like I've geting punked here.

1956
01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 6: Why is Danny get the underdog? I mean seriously, right now,

1957
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 6: I've already loaded up at one forty, I'm loading up

1958
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 6: again at one seventy. Nothing taken away from Rice Mitchell.

1959
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 6: He's great, but if you look at his wins, Bobby

1960
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:37,280
Speaker 6: Moffatt one in three didn't make in the UFC, Tyler Diamond,

1961
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:40,360
Speaker 6: Charles Rosa not longer of the promotion. Andre Philly was

1962
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 6: a great performance at some Barbaro is a great performance.

1963
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 6: You can make the argument he's getting better. But now

1964
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 6: he's got some all outside of the cage stuff. He's

1965
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 6: got some exic girl from stuff that's going on social

1966
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 6: media with the fruit trees and everything.

1967
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:52,680
Speaker 10: We know, have you seen it.

1968
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:56,360
Speaker 6: He's distracted and I don't know if he's really excelling

1969
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 6: and getting better like I think he should. Danny Ga

1970
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 6: is a savage. We all saw what Danyga did against

1971
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:05,679
Speaker 6: Nate Langmuer, those stance switches, those hands, switching up the stances,

1972
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 6: hurting Nate left and right. I think Nate's a better

1973
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 6: fighter than than Bryce Mitchell. I think Bryce Mitchell is

1974
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:13,840
Speaker 6: an entertaining guy. He's fun, seems like a good guy

1975
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 6: to root for. I like root for him. He obviously

1976
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 6: was sick, fell ill, or was sick and looked looked

1977
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 6: sick against the Portio.

1978
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 9: I was there live.

1979
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 6: He was getting tossed over that cage, which is surprising

1980
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:27,599
Speaker 6: because he's this Arkansas strong farm boy that takes you down,

1981
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 6: lays on top of you, and beats you up right.

1982
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:32,439
Speaker 6: Hit a twister early on his UFC career against Matt Sales,

1983
01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 6: who again won or three in the promotion. No longer there,

1984
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 6: so his wins aren't stacking up for me, and dany

1985
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:39,600
Speaker 6: Gay has been in there with everyone. He's hard to

1986
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,559
Speaker 6: take down. He's only had fifty fifty six percent take

1987
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 6: down the fence, but nine of those came for against

1988
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:47,760
Speaker 6: most Are you love? I mean, I mean that guy's

1989
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 6: a different level. So Danyga had underdog money. Here, I'm

1990
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 6: putting three units on it. I've already got real money

1991
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 6: on it. So let's go three units on Dan Ege here.

1992
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:57,599
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of the century. I couldn't

1993
01:33:57,640 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 6: believe it. I thought I was getting punked for a minute,

1994
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 6: but yeah, give me Danygae. I don't know if he's

1995
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:03,600
Speaker 6: going to get a stoppage, but I like him. And

1996
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:06,800
Speaker 6: we've been seeing this thing too where rapplers tend to

1997
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 6: win fights. But then you got Sugar Sewan and Moley

1998
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 6: with the footwork taken out Al Joe, you got Cyro

1999
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 6: Gone taking out Sursday Spitbox. So the tides are turning

2000
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:17,080
Speaker 6: a little bit. Strikers are finding out a way to

2001
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 6: use their footwork and slow down some grapplers. And I

2002
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 6: think Danny Gay is going to do that here, not

2003
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 6: to mention his cardios through the roof teams on fire.

2004
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:27,600
Speaker 10: Give me Danny Gay and defensively. Danny Gay is a

2005
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:29,800
Speaker 10: Brasilian jiu jitsu black belt. Of course, there are levels

2006
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 10: to that game, but I can understand why people see

2007
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 10: value on Danny Gay and increasingly so now plus one

2008
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:38,600
Speaker 10: seventy ken flow before you make your selection. There is

2009
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 10: a reason why money has been pouring in on Bryce Mitchell.

2010
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 10: The rap album. The country rap album is called Pasture

2011
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:47,839
Speaker 10: Fire and got a little taste for you folks here today,

2012
01:34:48,360 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 10: Bryce Mitchell, though nasty past your fi ah so good.

2013
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 10: Just wait and fuck, just fucking wait. That's seventy seconds

2014
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 10: of your life. I feel like a DJ trying to

2015
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:16,600
Speaker 10: fill this music bed before so d J.

2016
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 9: Ed he's got bars. I've heard here it comes.

2017
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2018
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 5: I'm from arkansost Off to the Dorkansole light at the

2019
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 5: end of the tunnel. My energy's funnel. My enemies talking,

2020
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:26,720
Speaker 5: they chuckle. I don't give a fuck, ain't no need

2021
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 5: to rebubdle. They look in my eyes and they know

2022
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:30,559
Speaker 5: I won't buckle. I've been from the jungle. I've been

2023
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 5: down a rumble. Give me the microphone. I'll keep it humbling,

2024
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 5: give me the wait and I ain't on a fumble.

2025
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 5: That's a bad habit I learned out in Cabot. I'll

2026
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 5: go get a pound and put it in the attic.

2027
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 5: If I need some money, then I'm gonna go grab it.

2028
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:42,719
Speaker 9: Fighting. It's good, but that shit is sporadic.

2029
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:45,639
Speaker 7: They've been lavish from straight off the trailer.

2030
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:46,639
Speaker 8: I coas like a sailor.

2031
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 5: Love on my clothes, but then I ain't cutting tailor

2032
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 5: my girl.

2033
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:50,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, she's in love with me. Get to the bund

2034
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 8: at least she gets up fun of.

2035
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 2: Me, nugging me.

2036
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:55,479
Speaker 5: I'll love it, suddenly missing me, kissing me. No social

2037
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:58,080
Speaker 5: distancing girl, I'm up in your business and not love

2038
01:35:58,120 --> 01:35:59,839
Speaker 5: fucking which y'all row your swiitch.

2039
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:00,679
Speaker 2: Or you in the picture.

2040
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 3: You made my life to me?

2041
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 10: No pay per views, looking man the darken Saw.

2042
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 6: Let me ask you a question, Jay, I know you

2043
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 6: used to spin a little bit back in the day.

2044
01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 6: You better than your heart. I didn't know if you

2045
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:21,280
Speaker 6: were taking if you could get a hot sixteen and

2046
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:25,680
Speaker 6: better than Bryce. He's better than me so, but that's

2047
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 6: not freestyle. But I'm sure he's a better freestyle rapper

2048
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 6: than I. Uh, and he probably can write hip hop

2049
01:36:31,320 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 6: lyrics better than I can.

2050
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 10: That was pretty good. Yes, I gotta figure out a

2051
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 10: way to drop a darken saw though. If this guy

2052
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 10: win bringing out the dark and Saw tonight, h Ken flow,

2053
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 10: we need a selection here, Who do you have I.

2054
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 9: Could do that for you. Listen.

2055
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 8: I think that, uh, Bryce Mitchell, it does have a

2056
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 8: lot of things going on outside the cage. You know,

2057
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 8: obviously there's you know, the relationship thing, but there's the

2058
01:36:56,840 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 8: injuries too, Like how healthy is he right now? I

2059
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 8: know about back injuries, and they stay with you and

2060
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:06,879
Speaker 8: they can come back to haunt you at very odd times,

2061
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:11,559
Speaker 8: especially when you're hitting weight. That yeah, yeah, especially when

2062
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:13,640
Speaker 8: you're cutting weight and you're at the end of a

2063
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 8: training camp where you've been building up a lot of

2064
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:19,719
Speaker 8: volume of trading of training.

2065
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 9: So yeah, I'm a little bit worried about that.

2066
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 8: But I'm worried about dan ega and the power that

2067
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 8: he has in his hands, the fact that he is

2068
01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:29,080
Speaker 8: a Brazilian, just two black built. He's not going to

2069
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:31,519
Speaker 8: be lost on the ground. I do think Bryce Mitchell

2070
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 8: moves very fast on the ground. He's going to be

2071
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 8: very aggressive there. And you have to worry about a

2072
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:39,600
Speaker 8: lot of different things submission's positions against Bryce Mitchell. But

2073
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 8: I think dan Egay can do way more than just

2074
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:44,479
Speaker 8: survive on the ground. And I also think that his

2075
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:47,679
Speaker 8: takedown defense is getting better. He's not a perfect takedown

2076
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 8: defense guy, but I don't think he needs to be

2077
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:53,680
Speaker 8: against Bryce Mitchell necessarily. I think he needs to be

2078
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 8: good enough to stop a lot of those takedowns, frustrate

2079
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 8: Bryce Mitchell and land a big shit when he can.

2080
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:02,680
Speaker 8: And I think if he could do that and all

2081
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 8: he can, he win rounds. He could perhaps win by

2082
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 8: finish here. I think Mitchell can as well, but I

2083
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 8: just have too many question marks for me, and I

2084
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:13,519
Speaker 8: think there's a lot of value on dan Ega. I

2085
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 8: was hoping that Brian Petrie was gonna go the other

2086
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 8: way with Bran with Bryce Mitchell.

2087
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 9: But come on, this guy's too shop John.

2088
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:23,720
Speaker 10: We'll see if that plus one seventy six around. I

2089
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 10: find that very interesting. Both of you landed on that

2090
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 10: side thirty cent price move in the last twenty four hours.

2091
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 10: And Peter, we're gonna need you to come in on Sunday.

2092
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 10: All right, made event one hundred and fifty five pounds

2093
01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:41,960
Speaker 10: the division. All the others are chasing Raphael Fhazee minus

2094
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 10: one sixty two Mattau's Gamrock plus one thirty six. So

2095
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 10: if Azev is coming off that absolute war against Justin Gaegee,

2096
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:52,280
Speaker 10: he had been seven to zero in the UFC going

2097
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 10: in and Gamrot another just absolute warrior repin American top

2098
01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:59,679
Speaker 10: team in Poland, coming off a split win over Jalen Turner.

2099
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:03,760
Speaker 10: You five in March, outstanding main event. I can't wait

2100
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:06,160
Speaker 10: to watch it and not talk during it. And it's

2101
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 10: at the UFCAPEX coming up here Saturday night. Twenty five

2102
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 10: foot octagon canflow, Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide for

2103
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:14,000
Speaker 10: Zavira gamer in the main event for you.

2104
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:16,760
Speaker 9: Yes, sir, this is such a great fight, man.

2105
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 8: I think that early on, especially when when Gamrod had

2106
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:25,559
Speaker 8: that absolute nasty fight against Erukian, I was super high

2107
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:28,679
Speaker 8: on Gamrock, But I'm not sure I've seen him take

2108
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:33,640
Speaker 8: it to that same level since that fight. I think that,

2109
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:35,760
Speaker 8: you know, there was, you know, some good performances here

2110
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:39,439
Speaker 8: and there, no question about it. But I think that

2111
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:42,760
Speaker 8: maybe I overestimated his abilities a little bit too much.

2112
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:46,000
Speaker 8: I think submission wise, I expect a little bit more

2113
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 8: striking wise, he hasn't made the adjustments or the evolution

2114
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 8: like I had hoped. Not to say he's bad there,

2115
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 8: not to say he's a bad fighter. He's a very

2116
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:57,640
Speaker 8: good fighter, don't get me wrong. But I thought that

2117
01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 8: coming off of That'soukian fight, that we would see his

2118
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 8: game really elevate. I just haven't seen that as much

2119
01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:07,120
Speaker 8: as I had hoped. And you're going against a guy

2120
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 8: in physique who is an absolute killer. He's extremely difficult

2121
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 8: to take down. I think that when you fight a

2122
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 8: guy like Gaichie, you are going to learn so much

2123
01:40:17,320 --> 01:40:21,720
Speaker 8: about yourself, about your heart, about your technique, about your vulnerabilities,

2124
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 8: all of that the pressure that he had to deal with.

2125
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:26,439
Speaker 8: So I think we're going to see a physive that

2126
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 8: is going to come in pretty damn hot. And I

2127
01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 8: think that he's going to fry, frustrate Gamrot a lot.

2128
01:40:33,479 --> 01:40:35,720
Speaker 8: And I think that if he's able to tire him out,

2129
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 8: and if he's able to find those spots to take

2130
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:40,160
Speaker 8: advantage of Gamrod on the feet, I think he will.

2131
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 8: And I think there's great value on physique here. You

2132
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:46,160
Speaker 8: know what, minus one sixty. I don't think we're going

2133
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Speaker 8: to see that too often out of physique against matchups

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Speaker 8: that are similar like this. So I gotta go for it, man,

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Speaker 8: I'm in big trouble. I need give me five units, Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Five unit whacker on Rafael Faz for Ken Flow. That

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Speaker 10: is an eight hundred and ten dollars wager to win.

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Speaker 10: Five hundred Brian Patriot. The floor is yours? Who do

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Speaker 10: you like at the Man event?

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Speaker 6: Love that pick, Love that breakdown for Ken Flow. This

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Speaker 6: fight was really intriguing When I first got announced, I

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Speaker 6: really dove deep into it. I love when a main

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Speaker 6: event like stumps me, right, I gotta dive in. I

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Speaker 6: gotta look at the tape, you know, I gotta go

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Speaker 6: over the stats. And Gamrod is a guy who's super

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Speaker 6: durable and tough. But in the Benny dark Use fight,

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Speaker 6: what impressed me was he got rocked and Benny could

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Speaker 6: crack and he got up, but he rushed so many

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Speaker 6: takedowns instead of letting his hands go. He dove for

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Speaker 6: takedowns and it warm himself out and Benny was ready

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Speaker 6: for it, and that just shut him down. It's, you know,

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Speaker 6: he's a very aggressive and good fighter, and he rushes

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01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 6: takedowns too much. When I think his stand up, it's

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Speaker 6: coming along pretty well. He's obviously good on the ground.

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Speaker 6: They didn't get Phyze. Well, this guy Debus and the

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Speaker 6: UC gets knocked out. I'm like, oh, you know, this

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Speaker 6: world class stricker gets knocked out, runs off some amazing performances.

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Speaker 6: Had a little stutter against Bobby Green. In my opinion,

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Speaker 6: some people thought Bobby Green lost. He just slowed down.

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Speaker 6: I thought Phazee won. But then he gets justin gats

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Speaker 6: who's the majority decision loss. He won the first round,

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Speaker 6: lost the final two in my opinion. In the third round,

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Speaker 6: he got chopped up a little bit, got bloodied up

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Speaker 6: a little bit. But this guy's stand up is so shiny.

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Speaker 6: It's a shiny, little polished tool.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 9: I love it.

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Speaker 6: My only critique with him, and this is coming from

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Speaker 6: a fat head kid from Cincinnati. My only critique from

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Speaker 6: him is he kind of gets in this rhythm of

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Speaker 6: like the muay Thai kickboxing rhythm with his shriking and

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Speaker 6: Gaechie read that. By the third round, I wish he

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Speaker 6: would be just a little bit more flowy. But that's

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Speaker 6: the smallest critique ever. I think his stand up is phenomenal.

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Speaker 6: He looks to be in insane shape. We haven't really

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Speaker 6: seen anybody really test his grappling. I've heard worlds reviews

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Speaker 6: about it in the gym. How hardy is to get down.

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Speaker 6: He'll toss you on your fucking head. So this is

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Speaker 6: going to prove it here And he answered the question

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Speaker 6: over the Cardio. That's another thing he's improving. Got knocked

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Speaker 6: out debut, hasn't been knocked out since stuttered.

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Speaker 7: A little bit.

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Speaker 6: Cardio wides against Bobby Green, goes out there and finishes.

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Speaker 6: Haffey does send us in the first round. He's proving

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Speaker 6: himself taking this seriously. This is a guy that slights out.

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Speaker 6: I agree with Kenny. Price is low. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 6: ahead and put two units on it as well from

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Speaker 6: my remaining five. I love Fazive here.

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Speaker 9: I think he is.

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Speaker 6: This is gonna be a banger of a fight.

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Speaker 4: I love.

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Speaker 6: There's some questions that need to be answered, and uh,

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Speaker 6: I think we might have one here at fifty five.

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Speaker 9: Boys, I really do.

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Speaker 10: All right, nicely done any other preliminary selections or otherwise

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Speaker 10: before we let you go.

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Speaker 6: I do not I think Jacob Alcoon is really overpriced.

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Speaker 6: But I do think he's gonna absolutely steamroll. But I

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Speaker 6: don't want to give that out because I mean, any

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Speaker 6: any trained gorilla can give out of minus four ten.

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Speaker 6: So not not right now?

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Speaker 9: Boys?

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Speaker 10: All right, well, I will leave you with this. Your

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Speaker 10: Cincinnati Bengals are zero and two, as are our New

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Speaker 10: England Patriots. If I were you I don't even know

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Speaker 10: who Cincinnati has in Week three. Straightway, your money lining

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Speaker 10: on their opponent, right, just try the best to win.

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Speaker 6: You're right, they playing the Rams who haven't looked super bad.

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Speaker 6: So we'll see Super Bowl rematch. We'll see what's going on.

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Speaker 10: All right, buddy, appreciate you man. Have a good weekday.

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Speaker 10: Brian peche with us here, and I know he's dealing

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Speaker 10: with some some family stuff, health issues with his mom.

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Speaker 10: So we wish Brian Pecher the best MMA takes podcast

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Speaker 10: at Brian Peatree MMA on social media. All right, I'm

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Speaker 10: gonna leave you with this, Cody, if you could send

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Speaker 10: this video invoice to Bruce Buffer via Instagram, that would

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Speaker 10: be great. So here's the invoice from iPhone Wizards. So

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Speaker 10: we had a nice steak dinner Keddy at my friend

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Speaker 10: Big ron Sweet at the Vergin this past Thursday night.

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Speaker 10: I invited my dear friend Bruce Buffer, who went on

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Speaker 10: to drop Ronnie Pellegrino's iPad on the floor and he apologized.

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Speaker 10: I don't think he knew the nature of the foul,

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Speaker 10: and really, at the time, I think for all of

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Speaker 10: us it was no harm, no foul until ron opened

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Speaker 10: up his iPad the next morning and the thing was

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Speaker 10: completely fucking shattered. So we have an invoice here two

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Speaker 10: hundred and sixteen dollars and seventy four cents. Perhaps Bruce

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Speaker 10: Buffer and the It's Time Empire maybe can pay for

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Speaker 10: the iPad repair. Perhaps not, but it's iPhone Wizards and

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Speaker 10: they did a great job fixed in the thing. So

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Speaker 10: but Buffer, yeah, man, Buffer drop at iPads. He was

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Speaker 10: sober too.

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Speaker 8: I think, oh man, what's he doing juggling it was?

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Speaker 8: Did he think it was like one of his cue cards?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, he was doing a cameo. I think, all right,

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Speaker 10: think it's actually Paradise, might be Las Vegas. But thanks

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Speaker 10: to everybody our yes, the Great Sean Brady, very longo,

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Speaker 10: Ryan Petrie, thanks to our unbelievable listenership and viewership. We

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Speaker 10: absolutely love you guys. We are resetting next week as

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Speaker 10: the UFC is dark on the last Saturday in September.

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Speaker 10: We will be back guns blazing first Monday in October

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Speaker 10: and can't wait to be back in your lives then.

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Speaker 10: For our executive producer, Cody Melfre, Kenny Floyd, and I'm

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Speaker 10: John and thank you all for listening, for watching, talk

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Speaker 10: to you in less than two weeks until then, you'll live.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, like you shore were down in the Boston listen.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Every time I thought at first I'll breaking these three commandment,

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Speaker 12: It's kind of like dle because I never planned it.

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Speaker 2: I'm I planned it.

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Speaker 10: They look wait, let make the patches look like the

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Speaker 10: only branches.

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Speaker 9: The boy you the only color on the canvas.

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Speaker 12: And I don't mean it's like a thought sense of

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Speaker 12: how you can get God Tom hip pop got it

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Speaker 12: every time you walk in the label the A and

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Speaker 12: I was like naughty immune because I suckle sickle dot

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Speaker 12: dott it body heat is the tactically gotta beat out

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Speaker 12: on God.

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Speaker 2: It your copy.

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Speaker 12: He started things like a glick make this speak a

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Speaker 12: speak eladissly off the high horse, making ascid defuse your

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Speaker 12: DJ must not know the alphabet forgetting this cute my

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Speaker 12: favorite DJ got those in six extra elfer abuse as

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Speaker 12: the teremic John p and I'm the new kids Still

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Speaker 12: I'm ready to las nice touch Reacher show a bust

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Speaker 12: of mustyles.

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Speaker 9: He gon send your lego shipping went frequent fly smiles.

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Speaker 9: DJ wants to get in the bird.

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Speaker 8: He get it in the burden Edinburgh Maga the Gandhi.

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Speaker 4: You want to set it on the speak got committals

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