WEBVTT - The June Q&A: Big 12 vs. the World, CFB Wizards & Stadium Drones

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal.

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<v Speaker 2>Hull that for me. I'm a man, I'm for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>Edith state is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Woo woo? And then and tie, Dan Rubinstein. We have

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<v Speaker 1>now turned the calendar to the month of June. The

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<v Speaker 1>season is getting much, much, much closer even as we speak,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that today it is time to tackle the

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<v Speaker 1>important questions as part of our June Q and A episode.

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<v Speaker 1>My friend, welcome back. How are you? Can't wait? I'm good?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, the sun is shining. I had a good weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Plenty of uh sports sidelines for kids playing t ball,

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<v Speaker 2>coach pitch baseball. You pick it. Uh, life is good, Tie,

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<v Speaker 2>life is good. How about you?

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<v Speaker 1>I am doing wonderful. I played a terrible round of

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<v Speaker 1>of in the back part.

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<v Speaker 2>On the back, the bone on the outside.

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<v Speaker 1>The Internet has no answer for what that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you injured yourself in a mysterious way

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<v Speaker 2>that the internet full of horrible golfers who constantly do

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<v Speaker 1>I do not want gratuitous Okay, Sully the good name

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<v Speaker 1>of this episode. Yeah, let's start with this one from

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<v Speaker 1>ween out on Patreon. Okay, if a wizard approached you,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Rubinstein and said tonight, you will forget everything you

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<v Speaker 1>know about the teams that you love, and those memories

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<v Speaker 1>will be replaced by a lifetime of experiences of being

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of a completely different team. But you must choose. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>which team would you pick?

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<v Speaker 2>Dan? So in my lifetime?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in lifetime, all of those wonderful Oregon memories before that,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess Florida State for you. Okay, all of your

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<v Speaker 1>college football memories of a specific team, your favorite team,

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<v Speaker 1>those are going to be hot swapped with those of

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<v Speaker 1>another team.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's say since two thousand somewhere in there. Does

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<v Speaker 2>that make sense?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that would only be half of your lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>But sure, if you want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Say no, I know, but it's okay, you can. You

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<v Speaker 2>can do. There's just so many different eras to sort

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<v Speaker 2>of weigh. So if I had to swap memories, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it would be lame to say Alabama, Right, that

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<v Speaker 2>would be lame. That would be a dorks answer to

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<v Speaker 2>say Alabama or Ohio State. I don't know that does.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for strictly a fun experience, So you have

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<v Speaker 2>to experience some lows so the highs feel a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit sweeter. You have to there has to be a

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<v Speaker 2>fun element to this. If I'm going to pick a

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<v Speaker 2>specific memory implant, I want to implant fun memories that

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<v Speaker 2>like there are upsets involved. Maybe style of play is

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to watch over the years. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>choose a national championship team I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, So there's two strategies to this, Right, If the

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<v Speaker 1>wizard is going to wipe out all my Notre Dame stuff, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and replace it with the team of my choosing. I

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<v Speaker 1>either want to pick a team that is currently good

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<v Speaker 1>so that I hit the ground running. Yeah, Ohio State,

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<v Speaker 1>George's a team that is very much in the zeitgeist,

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<v Speaker 1>or the other avenue, maybe this is the one you prefer,

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<v Speaker 1>pick a team that used to be good, or just

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<v Speaker 1>pick a team that has a lot of great memories,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was thinking Stanford Stanford not currently good, but

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<v Speaker 1>Stanford had and those are some lows. Man, Stanford had

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible run with Christian McCaffrey, when Jim Harball was

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<v Speaker 1>there Andrew Luck. Right, So there are two different ways

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<v Speaker 1>that you could approach this.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't do. I don't think there's enough juice around

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<v Speaker 2>Stanford football to say I am implanting my brain. Like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So if I were to choose a national championship program,

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<v Speaker 2>which I don't think I should, I might choose LS.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there are enough highs, enough entertainment around the

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<v Speaker 2>program enough players that are so rootable that you would

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<v Speaker 2>just enjoy your time being on that side of the action.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the years, obviously you're going back, you're getting less miles,

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting coach Oh, You're getting Nick Saban, You're getting

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<v Speaker 2>some low points in the nineties, You're getting some low

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<v Speaker 2>points here and there, coming down off of some high points.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think entertainment factor among the elite teams, without

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<v Speaker 2>saying Ohio State, without saying Alabama, whatever that next tier is,

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<v Speaker 2>that makes sense to me. If I'm going to select

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<v Speaker 2>a team that's just not a national championship team, that's quality,

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<v Speaker 2>that cares, that plays in big games, that plays an

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<v Speaker 2>entertaining brand of football, that has had upsets, I think

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<v Speaker 2>you might be able to do worse than Ole miss

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh okay, that's not good.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, that's not bad. I thought you were going to

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<v Speaker 1>take mine, which was mine is Boise State.

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<v Speaker 2>Boise State hasn't won national championship, has had fun, has

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<v Speaker 2>had quality. The frustration about like the ceiling involved with

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<v Speaker 2>being a Poise State fan.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, But you know, I believe it is you,

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<v Speaker 1>my trustee co host, who has argued for or an

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<v Speaker 1>eternity on this show that the national championship is not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily the point.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I know, but you're talking about access, right. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a different argument when you're saying, like, we don't even

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<v Speaker 2>have access when we are going eleven and one, twelve

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<v Speaker 2>and er. It's not the point as a national fan

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<v Speaker 2>to me, But I understand the frustrations of bois people

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<v Speaker 2>in the two thousands.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can only imagine the unbelievable high that

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<v Speaker 1>came with that Fiesta Bowl win over Oklahoma back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day, sure, right, So to have that in my

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<v Speaker 1>memory bank would definitely make me at least five percent

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<v Speaker 1>more joyful of a human being and a college football fan,

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<v Speaker 1>and also to some extent being unburdened for a long

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<v Speaker 1>time from that national championship conversation. I understand there might

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<v Speaker 1>be some frustration that comes with it, but to not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily start the season wondering if that's gonna happen, that

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<v Speaker 1>would definitely cut stress out of my life, out of

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<v Speaker 1>my memory bank. And also being able to watch this

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<v Speaker 1>slow build of Boise State through the nineties up to

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<v Speaker 1>present day. You know, that has definitely been I think

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<v Speaker 1>the journey of a lifetime for Boise State. Fans watching

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<v Speaker 1>this program rise to prominence, most recently now being in

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<v Speaker 1>a college football playoff, having great players move through their

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<v Speaker 1>sort of being this upstart program, this team that can

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<v Speaker 1>upset you if you're not paying attention, while at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time now obviously being more of a national story.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just think that evolution would have been fun

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<v Speaker 1>to watch. If I could swap out some of the

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<v Speaker 1>painful Notre Dame losses to like mac teams and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>swap in just this perennial underdog. I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a bad trade to made. If if the Wizard presents

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<v Speaker 1>himself to me and gives this unholy choice.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, I would have a conversation about either of

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<v Speaker 2>the Arizona schools, because that means I probably lived in

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<v Speaker 2>warm Weather had access to better Mexican food. Okay, I've

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<v Speaker 2>always had.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't a life thing, this is just a memory state.

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<v Speaker 1>I play to a football team.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's here's why I say, Arizona schools. You're generally getting

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<v Speaker 2>quality with some definitive low points. Some of the Herm

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<v Speaker 2>Edwards years, some of the Kevin Someone years get.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Someone years. Man, I don't know about that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're competing for conference championships, there's pretty consistent quality even

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<v Speaker 2>if you're losing, you know, even if you're sort of

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<v Speaker 2>the Washington Generals to you know, the better Stanford Oregon

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<v Speaker 2>USC teams throughout the years in the Pac twelve. Now

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<v Speaker 2>you're moving on to the Big twelve. So there's a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of novelty involved with being a fan of

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<v Speaker 2>one of those schools. But at the same time, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not expecting eleven wins a year. Like you get to

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<v Speaker 2>live in a reality that it's probably more healthy, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>and you appreciate the finer things when they arrive.

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<v Speaker 1>See that's my Boise argument right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well poise poises highs have been higher to me, sure

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<v Speaker 2>more consistently. But the down part of Boisse is you

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<v Speaker 2>have to ride through the Andy Avlos and Brian Harsoniers.

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<v Speaker 1>Which are not a Well there's no perfect answer. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no perfect answer, but I would love to hear from

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<v Speaker 1>people in this one. This is a fabulous question from ween.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I want of our trustee for ballers. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>Or you can take the tact of take a more

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<v Speaker 2>downtrodden program, be a Vandy fan, be a per new fan,

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<v Speaker 2>be a Rutgers fan, because you expect nothing and you

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<v Speaker 2>get to be surprised by competence, and so you protect

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<v Speaker 2>yourself against the pain. Tie. No, you're like, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>Vandy fan. We're gonna lose, but if we don't, holy moly,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna throw some stuff into a river. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something to be said about protecting from the pain,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't think you can live your life like that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta love like nobody's watching. Tie. That's what your

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<v Speaker 2>tattoo says. That's what that's the core belief of mine. Yeah, yep,

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<v Speaker 2>so all right, answer. Let's go to this question from Efrin. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that the Big Ten has org, Ohio State, Michigan,

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<v Speaker 2>and Penn State. Yes, that leaves fourteen teams. Are those

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen teams so vastly superior to the Big twelve? I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like there's not a lot of difference between the

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<v Speaker 2>Minnesota's and Illinois and teams like Case State and Baylor.

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<v Speaker 1>However, people keep on talking about the Big Twelve like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a poverty league. Poverty league.

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<v Speaker 2>Who name names, that's my problem, name names?

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<v Speaker 1>He says, what do you what do you all think?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think Ephan's wrong, Okay. I think on

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<v Speaker 1>this show we've done our best to push back on

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<v Speaker 1>that narrative a bit because we love the Big Twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>So once again we're saying, Michigan, Ohio State, Oregon, Penn State,

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<v Speaker 2>take them aside, take away ties, billion dollar Hollywood face. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not so different than you and I, that's right, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>What he's wrong about, I think is the approach to

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<v Speaker 1>the question. Okay, because he is thinking about this like

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<v Speaker 1>a logical college football fan, right, who cares about nuance

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the middle of a conference, looking at something

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<v Speaker 1>from soup to nuts. The broader national conversation is defined

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<v Speaker 1>by the top of a conference, not the media middle.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's like the competent depth.

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<v Speaker 1>But that includes the top of the top, that includes

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<v Speaker 1>the top top absolutely. So I think in that sense

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<v Speaker 1>because of conference realignment, because the Big Twelve is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of headless at this point, we don't know who's taking

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<v Speaker 1>over the mantle. Oh my Arizona State sun Devils, our

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<v Speaker 1>tie nacos that he thinks it could be ASU, why

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<v Speaker 1>not them? Right, But the top of the conference at

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<v Speaker 1>present remains somewhat undefined. Yeah, I actually think the more

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<v Speaker 1>interesting experiment to test this theory would be to put

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<v Speaker 1>out a poll, and I guess we could do this

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<v Speaker 1>if we want it, asking whether or not just a

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<v Speaker 1>blind taste test. I guess it's not blind. But you

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<v Speaker 1>see where I'm going with continual which conference is tougher,

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Twelve or the ACC? And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see how people answer that because the ACC definitely has

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<v Speaker 1>teams with a little bit more star power. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>Clemson in Florida State, and Miami and North Carolina, even

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia Tech. Right, I think the highs of that conference

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<v Speaker 1>just in terms of name recognition, brand recognition, all those

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<v Speaker 1>goofy buzzwords, it's probably higher in the ACC, even though

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know necessarily that it's a tougher conference, But

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<v Speaker 1>I just think with some of that star power at

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<v Speaker 1>the very top, you would have a poll that skews

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<v Speaker 1>in the direction of the ACC. That's my theory. I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's where the Big Twelve comes up

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit short, just in terms of the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the conference. The other thing that I would say

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<v Speaker 1>about the Big twelve. Dan, Yeah, four of the five

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<v Speaker 1>biggest TV markets belong to newer teams. Yeah, like the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest in Houston, which Houston's got a good sized fan base,

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<v Speaker 1>but they just got there. They don't have a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot of experience competing at the Power Conference level. TCU

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<v Speaker 1>and Fort Worth is the next highest, made the title

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<v Speaker 1>game a couple of years ago, but TCUs a smaller

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<v Speaker 1>private school constantly competing for oxygen with schools like Texas

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<v Speaker 1>Texas A and M for I guess broader recognition in

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<v Speaker 1>the state of Texas and beyond. The next biggest are

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona State, new Team Colorado, new Team UCF, relatively new

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<v Speaker 1>team right. So again to the recognition point, the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>TV markets in general belong to new teams. And if

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<v Speaker 1>I can make one final point before I kick it

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<v Speaker 1>over to you, yes, I don't know if the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the Big ten is necessarily better than upper middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the Big twelve. To Effhren's point, they are richer,

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<v Speaker 1>though they are much richer. Yeah, And I think again,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're talking of this in terms of like the

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<v Speaker 1>broader national conversation, whether or not people want that to

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<v Speaker 1>factor in. It is definitely still something on the periphery

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<v Speaker 1>that people think about when they make a snap judgment

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<v Speaker 1>on a conference.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, absolutely, what do you think? Okay, So it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>to separate awareness, it's hard to separate national familiarity from

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<v Speaker 2>this question. You'll notice it was Ephremn left out USC, right,

0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:42.040
<v Speaker 2>huge program in a huge place with huge a huge name, brand, coach, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and just very recognizable in terms of where this program

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<v Speaker 2>has been in college football, and not recently, not recently,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're not too old that we forget USC as

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<v Speaker 2>a national power.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, you're kind of making my Big

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<v Speaker 1>twelve point here as well. Sure, because when you think

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<v Speaker 1>of the Big twelve, you don't necessarily think of like

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona State, Arizona.

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<v Speaker 2>No Arizona, Arizona State are Pack twelve programs.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And I think the same is true on USC's front.

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<v Speaker 1>I still don't call the old school. I know they're

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<v Speaker 1>technically as is Oregon in Washington, Ucla. I know these

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<v Speaker 1>teams are technically in the Big ten. But well, at

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<v Speaker 1>your finger snap judgment, I'm not thinking US season the

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<v Speaker 1>Big ten yet. I have not reprogrammed that quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>USC is a little bit different to me because they

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<v Speaker 2>actively tried to murder the conference they were in. So

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<v Speaker 2>I am from my vantage point, USC is a murderer,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they're a Big Ten team. This is what

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<v Speaker 2>they wanted college football to be. They wanted USC comma

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<v Speaker 2>Big Ten member.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a guy right in by the way every

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<v Speaker 1>time we talk about USC schedule, wanted me to play.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, we took a few years off. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 2>played Notre Dame and Oregon this year, right, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>We could start that back up, though it's always fun continue.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing, the Big Twelve just feels so much

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<v Speaker 2>even though it spans you know, Arizona to West Virginia

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<v Speaker 2>and Orlando, there is still something highly regional, if not

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<v Speaker 2>about like the places or the alums, but the interest

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<v Speaker 2>in the Big Twelve. That look, I've lived on the

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<v Speaker 2>West Coast, I've lived on the East Coast, and now

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<v Speaker 2>I live in the biggest city in the Midwest, and

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<v Speaker 2>when you look up and down the Big Twelve, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't think this is an insane anecdotal piece of argument

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm about to make. Okay, this is cow Herdian

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<v Speaker 2>in its nature. Okay, great, I don't think and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>somebody's listening to this and knows me and is friends

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<v Speaker 2>with me. I don't think I know a single person

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<v Speaker 2>that went to any of these schools that lives near

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<v Speaker 2>me right now. But I can think of I have

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<v Speaker 2>SEC friends, I have obviously Big Ten friends, I have

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<v Speaker 2>former Pac twelve friends, I have ACC friends. But what's

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to me, and I don't know if it's just

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<v Speaker 2>a footprint thing, but there is something about the Big

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<v Speaker 2>Twelve that when you lose the recognizable heads of a

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<v Speaker 2>conference in Texas and Oklahoma. And by the way, I

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<v Speaker 2>think the Big Twelve is a sensational job in rebuilding

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<v Speaker 2>and repopulating and having a high floor.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. I like what they've done. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily making this argument that effort is is batting around,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all. I mean, people who listen know that

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<v Speaker 1>we like the conference. But it's I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>fair point to raise because this is very much the narrative.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>And you look at the teams who have played in

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<v Speaker 2>huge national games recently in the postseason. You have TCU,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, you have ASU, of course, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>look at the rest of the list in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>playoff playoff ish teams. Utah has kind of flirted, but

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<v Speaker 2>they've been a Big Twelve team for an hour and

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<v Speaker 2>a half. Kansas State has had some really interesting high

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<v Speaker 2>like they just there's no consistency at or near the top.

0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:01.520
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma State or of showed it. They make a Big

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<v Speaker 2>Twelve championship game and fall off like the Mariannus trench

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<v Speaker 2>of college football immedia? Is that what it's called?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes in the Atlantic, Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so there is something about the consistency of

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<v Speaker 2>inconsistency in the Big Twelve where you're just like, who

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<v Speaker 2>is this conference built on the backs of And when

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the ACC and you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>interest that you know, Clemson has generated nationally and it's

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<v Speaker 2>taken a while. But Miami, of course not necessarily within

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<v Speaker 2>the ACC, but it's a huge brand with recognizable everything

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<v Speaker 2>about Miami football. Say what you will, Miami's huge. And

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<v Speaker 2>then there's there are the enormous schools or the big,

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<v Speaker 2>big name schools, whatever you want to call it in

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<v Speaker 2>the Northeast. Not that they've had sustained success, but these

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<v Speaker 2>are huge programs, both in basketball and football, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Big Twelve has a ton of basketball firepower, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. There is still something about a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>B plus type programs that is impressive and to be

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<v Speaker 2>modeled after. But there has to be that bar. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what we talked about when Nick Saban retired, that Alabama

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<v Speaker 2>did the impossible thing in the SEC where it was

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<v Speaker 2>people decry a lack of parity, but it is nice

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<v Speaker 2>that we had this measuring stick of a program in Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope, for the sake of the Big Twelve, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that becomes Arizona State. It'd be very cool. They seem

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<v Speaker 2>to be a very likable program at the moment, unless

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<v Speaker 2>you're in Tucson, I guess, And you need that bar

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<v Speaker 2>to measure yourself against, and the Big Twelve is searching

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<v Speaker 2>for that. It's a conference in its absolute infancy. Whereas

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<v Speaker 2>like the Big Ten in SEC and ACC are growing

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<v Speaker 2>by adding to an existing roster, the Big Twelve had

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<v Speaker 2>to morph into something new when losing its huge brands.

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<v Speaker 2>And so sure you can say the Big Twelve is

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<v Speaker 2>competitive with the Big Ten minus the bars and the

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<v Speaker 2>SEC minus the bars, But I mean, this is why

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<v Speaker 2>movie stars have the prettiest faces, you know, like you

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<v Speaker 2>got to have that recognizable flash to sell tickets, and

0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:19.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're paying to see Sidney Sweeney, not Cheryl Sweeney.

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<v Speaker 2>Cow Herdian soapbox.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, now that that was a great Cowhardian argument. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, as you were going off on that tangent

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<v Speaker 1>p I did post to our social account a poll

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<v Speaker 1>asking which conference do you think is tougher, Big twelve

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<v Speaker 1>or ACC? So by the time, by this time tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>we'll know the answer to the experiment. But I if

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<v Speaker 1>I were to venture a guess, I would say the ACC.

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<v Speaker 1>Not necessarily because I think it's that much tougher or

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<v Speaker 1>weaker or whatever, but I just think because of the top,

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<v Speaker 1>because of the star power at the top, that is

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<v Speaker 1>what works against the Big twelve. You made the same

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<v Speaker 1>point as well. I would expect that the ACC is

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<v Speaker 1>going to win this, but we'll see. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also people are probably gonna make jokes about this

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<v Speaker 1>this question and altogether.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, it's fine. And it's also look from a

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<v Speaker 2>recruiting standpoint, and I guess portal standpoint, but mostly recruiting.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, over the last you know, five ten years,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Texas Tech was a major player in the

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<v Speaker 2>portal this year, and we'll see how that works out

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<v Speaker 2>for them. But these this is a conference that from

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<v Speaker 2>a pure roster standpoint, and it's changed again in the

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<v Speaker 2>portal era, it's a conference that can't absorb injuries, that

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't built up the kind of depth when you compare

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<v Speaker 2>it against other conferences that you know, a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, a couple of quarterbacks go down and West

0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Virginia's win in a bunch more games than they probably

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<v Speaker 2>should have, and good for them, right that it's easier

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<v Speaker 2>to win games in a conference that doesn't necessarily have

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<v Speaker 2>NFL depth at a lot of positions. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying the Big Twelve is easy, no, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>the bar to get to, you know, the road to

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<v Speaker 2>eight wins in the Big Twelve maybe a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>easier because you're not dealing with week in and week out.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, this team might not have an offense, but

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<v Speaker 2>their defense is incredible, or this team might not have

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<v Speaker 2>a defense, but their offense is incredible. I think you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting a lot of mediocrity at you know, a three

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<v Speaker 2>to four position group layer that you might not be

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<v Speaker 2>getting in the bottom of the or the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, let's move on. Let's go to this one

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<v Speaker 1>from Dan. Okay, every podcaster in college football media member

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<v Speaker 1>with a mailbag has been asked a dozen times? How

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<v Speaker 1>many years would it take Nick Saban to turn X

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<v Speaker 1>into a contender?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Saban only really one big at decided blue blood programs

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<v Speaker 1>like LSU and Alabama. Yeah, what is the lowest tier

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<v Speaker 1>of a program that the best coaches in the game

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<v Speaker 1>could turn into a top five team? Could they do

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<v Speaker 1>it or could they do it at a top fifteen program,

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<v Speaker 1>a top twenty five program? What is the lowest tier?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's use Nick Saban as an example, best coach of

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<v Speaker 1>all time in college football? Sure you put Nick Saban

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<v Speaker 1>the Eastern Michigan. I don't like that exercise is stupid, Okay, explain.

0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:23.199
<v Speaker 2>Nick Saban would never These guys are used to a

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<v Speaker 2>certain lifestyle and it's not worth it for them. The

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<v Speaker 2>money is not worth it if the money behind the

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<v Speaker 2>program and the prestige behind the program isn't aligned with

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<v Speaker 2>what they're used to doing with coaching. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>the more sensical question is what Dan is actually asking,

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<v Speaker 2>right that, like Nick Saban going to a MAX school

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<v Speaker 2>and winning the mac a bunch of times, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>never going to really be able to probably generate enough

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<v Speaker 2>financial interest behind the scenes at the school and amongst

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<v Speaker 2>alumni to draw in five stars from Florida and Georgia

0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:01.240
<v Speaker 2>to play for Eastern Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, realistically, yeah, this would have been a

0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 1>different question fifteen years ago, right, because back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>you could build up teams kind of like you build

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<v Speaker 1>them up in the video game, where you consistently recruit well,

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<v Speaker 1>you consistently develop talent, you see a progression of results

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<v Speaker 1>on the conference, on the national level, and then at

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<v Speaker 1>some point, if you're doing it right, you hit a

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<v Speaker 1>critical mess. Right, you know, I'm oversimplifying, but it's not

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:28.439
<v Speaker 1>unlike what happened at Boise State, which I sort of

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:32.280
<v Speaker 1>just described right in twenty twenty five, though, this is

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:35.840
<v Speaker 1>a much different answer, even though we did see a

0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 1>guy like a Frank Signetti turn around Indiana in one

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:43.280
<v Speaker 1>off season. Regardless of what you think of Indiana, they

0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:45.359
<v Speaker 1>should be in the playoff. They should in Indiana went

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<v Speaker 1>from three to nine to eleven and two. With a

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<v Speaker 1>better coach and with help of the transfer portal, you

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:52.680
<v Speaker 1>can do it very quickly. It's not the same time

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<v Speaker 1>calculation as it used to be, and a favorable schedule,

0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:57.960
<v Speaker 1>and a favorable schedule, so you know, you put a

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<v Speaker 1>big name coach, a bigger name coach at really any school,

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<v Speaker 1>you will probably see something of a spike in terms

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:08.479
<v Speaker 1>of transfer interest, in terms of maybe the donor class,

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:11.359
<v Speaker 1>et cetera. But the bigger question is that donor class

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:14.440
<v Speaker 1>to your point, all right, donor class and revenue on

0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 1>the football program, because it's gonna take money. Now, it's

0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna take money to bring the talent in. It's gonna

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 1>take money to keep your homegrown talent stop them from

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:25.520
<v Speaker 1>going elsewhere. I don't it doesn't matter if it's Nick

0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Saban turning things around, turning you into a name brand

0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 1>quarterback at whatever Max school. The question is can you

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:36.399
<v Speaker 1>keep that guy another year? Because on some level, it's like,

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:39.760
<v Speaker 1>it's great playing for Nick Saban, it's great being there,

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:43.080
<v Speaker 1>it's great having him being like the seal of approval

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:45.960
<v Speaker 1>on your future. Right, But unless you can afford to

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:48.840
<v Speaker 1>pay three million dollars to keep the guy in town,

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:51.879
<v Speaker 1>forget it, right, He's gonna be playing down the road

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 1>at Ohio State next year. So that's the reason why.

0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:57.479
<v Speaker 1>This is a much different question than I think it

0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 1>used to be. I don't know if I really have an answer.

0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess the answer is a school that is big

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 1>enough to bring in enough dollars to keep the talent

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 1>in place on a recurring basis. Like maybe Memphis is

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>the answer with their investment that they got from FedEx.

0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:19.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a good investment for the AAC. It's

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:22.080
<v Speaker 2>not necessarily a good investment for the highest levels of

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 2>college football.

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but that's what it takes. It takes a

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.720
<v Speaker 1>school that is big enough to get those donor dollars

0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 1>year in, year out, regardless of who the coach is.

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Having the coach would help, but you need the money

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 1>at this point in time if you're going to sustain it.

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:36.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think a lot of it is just going

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:41.560
<v Speaker 2>to be a location situation that takes schools that are

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:47.280
<v Speaker 2>close to Florida, Georgia, Texas, maybe California that yes, at

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Arizona State, at Louisville, at TCU. I think those places

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 2>would qualify places that are much more in the like

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 2>seventeen to thirty Raine, Okay, and our geographically advantageous I

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 2>think Nick Saban Kirby Smart, Dabbo, take your pick. The

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 2>best of the best. Coaches could find ways to win

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:14.719
<v Speaker 2>with that kind of proximity to talent and that kind

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:17.119
<v Speaker 2>of proximity to money. I don't know what the money

0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:18.960
<v Speaker 2>scene is like. I know it's good at Louisville. It

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 2>seems TCU not sure Like Syracuse would just be more difficult,

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:27.639
<v Speaker 2>Like the job Nick Saban would have in trying to

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 2>convince players from the South Texas, Florida, Georgio, Tennessee, wherever,

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:36.440
<v Speaker 2>to come to Syracuse. Over going to George and playing

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 2>for Kirby Smart, going to Texas and playing for Steve Sarksian.

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot. He would get some, but not on

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 2>the same level. It would just be a different kind

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:46.919
<v Speaker 2>of argument that there are just going to be players

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 2>who are like I want to play in near family,

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 2>I want to play somewhere warm, I want to play

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:52.399
<v Speaker 2>in a southern college town, and it's Syracuse is just

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:54.919
<v Speaker 2>going to check fewer boxes for those types of prospects.

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:57.119
<v Speaker 2>All of these coaches, by the way, would be the

0:27:57.160 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 2>first to tell you that they're nothing special without players,

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:04.639
<v Speaker 2>and there's only so much you can do with a

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 2>capped talent level. And you're just going to have that

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:09.960
<v Speaker 2>cap level at a lot of places in that like

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty two to forty five zone, and you can get

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 2>great coaching, you can develop players super well, but in

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:20.679
<v Speaker 2>terms of depth, in terms of star power, the usual

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 2>suspects seem like they're always going to draw more. And

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 2>so it's a nice symbiotic relationship that like, players make

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 2>the coach, coach make the players, and everybody thinks the

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:36.960
<v Speaker 2>best of everybody. And I just I couldn't see Kirby Smart,

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, achieving national glory at Iowa State consistently.

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Saban at Tulane would be I think as far down

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 1>as I would go a school like a two lane,

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 1>but I think it would have to be the upper

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 1>crust of the non power five, a place that has

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>a serious investment in football, had some recent success to

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 1>build upon, already has talent, right, you know, starting from

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 1>square one, you're not going to put him at Kent State. No,

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be better if you put him at

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Kent State, because he's a better coach. But in terms

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 1>of building something longer term, turning this into any kind

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 1>of juggernaut, the money.

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 2>It's actually more fascinating in basketball when you just need

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:27.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, two or three incredible balls. Different a different

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 2>what Rick Patino has done because we actually see it

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 2>in basketball on a different level, like John Calipari at Memphis.

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Memphis obviously historical program has had star power there, but

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 2>it's not what Kentucky is right, it's you know you

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 2>he turned UMass into a power. And so the basketball thing,

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 2>the coaches have more of an opportunity because you got

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 2>to convince two kids and then others will follow those

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 2>two kids pretty quickly. And so that's the fascinating thing

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:58.239
<v Speaker 2>when you see who is the Michigan coach forever who

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 2>went to San Diego State, Steve Fisher. Deep sure that

0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 2>we actually do see it in basketball, and that's that's

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:08.120
<v Speaker 2>when it becomes super fascinating. But no, football wise, I

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 2>just think it's so much more difficult, especially now with

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 2>how much players can move around. I don't know, it's

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 2>tough to say, like you, Nick Saban would find really

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 2>good and develop really good dbs and find really good

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:21.960
<v Speaker 2>dB coaches. You know, if we were coaching in the MAC,

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 2>if we were coaching the Big twelve and the Big

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 2>ten wherever. But the high high level roster that goes

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 2>too deep everywhere. As much as that is difficult now,

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I just think you're asking so much of one human

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 2>to completely transform a place that's not built to be transformed.

0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:47.360
<v Speaker 1>This question from Jacob is not directed direct batching my

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 1>words here.

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 2>You're good.

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 1>It's not address solely to you, but it might as

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 1>well be. Okay, can you compare twenty twenty five college

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 1>football teams to early two thousand's pop punk bands.

0:30:57.680 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 2>I deleted this.

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I do not believe we've ever gotten this question before.

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 2>I deleted it. I don't compare anymore. Do you have

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 2>any thoughts from comparisons. I'm sorry I put you on

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 2>a bad I'm a bad teammate right now saying that

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 2>it's okay.

0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>No, it's fine, it's fine. You can you can tell

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>me if I'm right or wrong with these comparisons.

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I have Michigan down as Green Day.

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 2>Michigan as Green Day. That's not early two thousands. They

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 2>had Dookie was like ninety four.

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I just jotted down that they have some old school credibility.

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Its Michigan. They had their moment against recently. A lot

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 1>of people think they peaked in the nineties, but.

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Michigan Screen Championship like three hours ago.

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I said they had their moment recently.

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true.

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 1>And then the other one I jotted down was Penn

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 1>State is Jimmy World because they're they're solid, they're consistent,

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 1>they have occasional moments of brilliance, but they have never

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>quite been the headliner.

0:31:55.560 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I would more. I would be more likely

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 2>to look at Fallout Boy songs and compare them to

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:11.480
<v Speaker 2>like twenty twenty four seasons like song names, yeah, you know,

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Dead on Arrival, Grand Theft, Autumn, whatever, old Fallout Boy, Yeah,

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 2>and compare them to seasons or yeah, like team seasons

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 2>from last season than banned reputation because it's just so

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 2>highly subjective. And college football, there's a you objectively went

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 2>ten and two, you objectively won three straight national championships,

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 2>or appeared in three straight national championships, where I think

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 2>I will go song title more than that Fallout Boy,

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 2>like what program is like early two thousands or all

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 2>of the Fallout Boy ouvre ouvre what's the question exactly?

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 1>He says, can you compare twenty twenty five college football

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 1>teams to early two thousands pop punk bands?

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, Michigan isn't peaked in like their twenty twenty five

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 2>team is relying on a young lead singer. Was there

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 2>anybody that was especially young singing for a pop punk

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 2>group in like two thousand and two the starting line

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 2>and Kenny there.

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Was that dude from the calling They had one big

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>song and he was like.

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Seventeen years old punk. That guy was just doing an

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Eddie Vetter impression. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fallout Boy has

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 2>withstood the test of time. Midwest high energy, yep, a

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 2>lot of hair decisions.

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there were.

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 2>Associated with Ashley Simpson. So who played in that Orange

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 2>Bowl that Ashley Simpson sang in?

0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Was that Penn State?

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 2>Was it?

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>It might have been Pen State or she saying the

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 1>halftime show?

0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and she had the really the really bad hiccup

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 2>on national TV on SNL. Yeah, so I guess Fallout

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Boys associated with both of the those things.

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:02.840
<v Speaker 1>It was the two thousand and five Orange Bowl.

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay, who played in the two thousand and five Orange Bowl.

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Two thousand and five Orange Bowl, I'm looking at it

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 1>right here. Oh my gosh, I'm looking at this clip

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 1>right now. Two thousand and five Orange Bowl. Yeah, that

0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 1>was USC against Oklahoma that was the two thousand and

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 1>five BCS National Championship Game.

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:27.879
<v Speaker 2>I would say Ohio State, if you're going to force

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:30.439
<v Speaker 2>me to do fall Out Boy, I would say Ohio State,

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:36.360
<v Speaker 2>that Midwest been around for a while amongst an elite

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:41.439
<v Speaker 2>tier with their peers Fallout Boy, you know, selling out

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 2>arenas and stuff like that, Like they just they have

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 2>a huge national, if not international following.

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 1>It's funny you say that because Jacob is the second

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:53.719
<v Speaker 1>part of Jacob's comment here is, for example, I feel

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:56.840
<v Speaker 1>like Ohio State is Fallout Boy, big name, some good hits,

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 1>has a lot of haters.

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I I think it's pretty reasonable. The Midwestern thing

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:03.840
<v Speaker 2>rings true obviously.

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Well, since he deleted it, we can move on to

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 1>the next question. If we can move on Xavier rights

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:13.720
<v Speaker 1>in how many coaches do you think can get fired

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 1>or retire? Just looked and I can see Auburn, LSU, FSU, Florida, USC, Iowa, Kentucky,

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:24.919
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma and sy State, Pit, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Cincinnati, Oklahoma State,

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Texas Tech.

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean this answer is easier to say, like, who

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 2>do you think is in a pretty good spot?

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I could see all of these teams. He also has Maryland, Wisconsin, Arkansas.

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>All of these teams making moves either due to firings

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:41.719
<v Speaker 1>or retirements, and I'm wondering if maybe we'll see some

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:46.800
<v Speaker 1>coaches stay on for that reason. Okay, so he's obviously

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:49.799
<v Speaker 1>focused on the Power Conference coaches. He did list a

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of schools there. Many of them have complex situations

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 1>that are I think worth following. Only a fraction of

0:35:56.560 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 1>those places are probably willing to pay crazy buyout money.

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 1>So like USC and Lincoln Riley. We had Ryan Abraham

0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 1>on a couple months ago. Lincoln Riley's not going anywhere.

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 1>They're not paying that buyout. I think there is a

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 1>trend right now to that point of rather than shelling

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:20.360
<v Speaker 1>out dead buyout money, reinvesting it into talent acquisition and

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 1>seeing where the program can go. Florida sort of did

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 1>something like this. Of the programs, he listed the ones

0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:31.279
<v Speaker 1>that I would say I'm watching the closest, we're most

0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:38.320
<v Speaker 1>interested in. Mark Stoops is getting progressively more grumpy at Kentucky. Sure,

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 1>sometimes that could be a precursor to a retirement. Oklahoma

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 1>State the writings of the Wall, We talked that one

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 1>through Oklahoma. We like what brand Venables is doing, but

0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:50.879
<v Speaker 1>going to need to start seeing some results sooner than later,

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:54.720
<v Speaker 1>especially with what they're doing now. Wisconstant of wig Fickle.

0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 1>We talked about that one. It has not been off

0:36:56.560 --> 0:37:00.759
<v Speaker 1>to a great start. Virginia Tech was underwhelming last year

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 1>for a multitude of reasons, some of which are on

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:06.240
<v Speaker 1>the coach. Iowa, I think is going to have another

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 1>good year, but we know that Kirk Ferrens is going

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:12.399
<v Speaker 1>to be there forever. And Florida State, like Florida State,

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:14.719
<v Speaker 1>had a horrible year, made a big move to go

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 1>out and get Gus gust come in and run the offense.

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:21.879
<v Speaker 1>Two new coordinators now in total should be better, if

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:24.760
<v Speaker 1>only because they can't get much worse. But if Florida

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 1>State is not more reliably in that playoff conversation, I

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:31.480
<v Speaker 1>think starting this year we're going to have to start

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:33.799
<v Speaker 1>having a Mike Norvell conversation. So those are just the

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 1>schools that he listed.

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I think the Mike Norvel conversation has begun.

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's definitely begun. Yeah, I'm trying to be you know,

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 1>generous here with my assessment, but Florida State should be

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 1>in that CFP conversation nearly every year full stop.

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 2>I think with the demands placed on coaches now, the

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 2>list is probably far longer of coaches who are just like, yeah,

0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm done with this. I'm done with this. I've made

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:01.760
<v Speaker 2>enough money and I'm good. I don't want to recruit

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:06.440
<v Speaker 2>my own roster every hour of every day. I think

0:38:06.440 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 2>there's more. I think the teams that Xavier listed are

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:15.000
<v Speaker 2>all reasonable because of expectations, because of how teams have

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:17.799
<v Speaker 2>gone into the portal, or how teams are hoping to

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:21.400
<v Speaker 2>bounce back from last season. They're all reasonable here. But

0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I just think the list is more vast, Like, the

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:28.600
<v Speaker 2>list is more vast of programs not necessarily who are

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 2>excited to pay money to a coach to not coach.

0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 2>But if you if you take away the schools that

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 2>just hired somebody or their good vibes early on, and

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 2>a coach is ten years somewhere, and you just take

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:41.239
<v Speaker 2>any school that has had a coach that has been

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 2>there for four or five years, you're not going to

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 2>be fully surprised. If Kirby Smart's like, I'm good, If

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:48.359
<v Speaker 2>Dabolsweeny's like I'm good.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, but you're talking to the retirement angle. And

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:53.799
<v Speaker 1>I think that's well, it's in the question, right, It's

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>in the question. It's absolutely valid, totally. What I don't

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:02.360
<v Speaker 1>know though, with this new era of money and especially

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 1>with revenue sharing. We actually have a question about revenue

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 1>sharing a little bit later that we'll get to. I

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:09.239
<v Speaker 1>don't know the willingness of some of these programs to

0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 1>pay that buyout money. I agree, you know, and that

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 1>is something we're just going to have to chart. We're

0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:18.680
<v Speaker 1>going to have to see which programs are really desperate

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:22.279
<v Speaker 1>to get rid of whoever is running the thing and

0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 1>start anew versus who's just going to hang tight and

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:31.439
<v Speaker 1>see if anything materializes, maybe reinvest the way I described right,

0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know the answer to that.

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I think there are very few programs that have had

0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:40.279
<v Speaker 2>a coach for a while that the coach does not

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 2>go through spells of why am I even doing this?

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 2>And from the top on down, like I would bet

0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 2>Steve Sarkasian has had low moments at Texas, that Dan

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Lanning has had low moments at Oregon. That take your

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 2>pick of the gilded class of coaches that they're dealing

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:04.880
<v Speaker 2>with issues that make them question why they are coaching

0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 2>major college football in twenty twenty five now, though the

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 2>issues likely don't outweigh the positive aspects. And these are

0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 2>places that you can throw money at problems in a

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:16.960
<v Speaker 2>way that you can't at a lot of places. But

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:22.240
<v Speaker 2>the pain of the job, I'm sure rears its ugly

0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:25.719
<v Speaker 2>head for every single one of these. For Kenny Dillingham,

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:28.400
<v Speaker 2>who's got it better than Kenny Dillingham right now coming

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:31.319
<v Speaker 2>off of a Big twelve title and being seen as

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 2>like a good guy, intense guy doing stuff that is

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 2>a blueprint for other new coaches, young, younger new coaches.

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:43.640
<v Speaker 2>But even he is, you know, frustrated by a lot

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:46.920
<v Speaker 2>of realities. I'm sure. So I think the list is

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:49.799
<v Speaker 2>always longer than you think it is. Okay, and you

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 2>just these coaches are talented at figuring out how to

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:54.720
<v Speaker 2>convince people to throw money at problems.

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Let's go to David as a Big ten fan in

0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:02.360
<v Speaker 1>my sixth decade of life, nice in his fifties, I

0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:05.800
<v Speaker 1>am increasingly struggling with how to handle games that interest

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 1>me that are on in the very late TV window.

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:12.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we don't know where David lives, do we?

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:14.759
<v Speaker 1>We do not know where he lives now, Okay, I

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:18.359
<v Speaker 1>can stay up, but it wrecks me the next day.

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 1>He says, as a parenthetical, Yes, I am very washed,

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:24.879
<v Speaker 1>especially if the game is exciting, since I too am

0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:27.920
<v Speaker 1>wound up after the game and I am unable to

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:29.760
<v Speaker 1>fall asleep as soon as the head hits the pillow.

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.759
<v Speaker 2>I assume David lives in the big ten footprint in

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 2>the central times On.

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a fair assessment. I've tried to go

0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:39.000
<v Speaker 1>to sleep at halftime, but then I tossed intern all

0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 1>night with suspense, not wanting to wake up until morning

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:44.480
<v Speaker 1>to see what happened. Sometimes, with the suspense killing me,

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I wake up at like two or three AM, and

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I check the score, but of course I also have

0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:52.080
<v Speaker 1>to see the drive chart and everything, and then good

0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:54.280
<v Speaker 1>luck trying to fall back asleep for like two more hours.

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:57.560
<v Speaker 1>They really should have considered the old folks when scheduling

0:41:57.680 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 1>any advice or thoughts. Don't laugh. This will be useful day, buddy,

0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 1>it already is us. We're just at this point now

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:05.640
<v Speaker 1>where we have to gut it out so that we

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 1>can do the live streams at midnight Eastern time. Yeah,

0:42:08.960 --> 0:42:13.320
<v Speaker 1>after a day's worth of games. So we are Simpatico. David,

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:17.400
<v Speaker 1>I think the best answer is probably to move to

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Hawaii if that's within your budget.

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's not a great answer, but it's not an answer.

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:23.399
<v Speaker 2>Who was Who was.

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:26.959
<v Speaker 1>The NBA guy who did that for ESPN the old

0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 1>was it Chad Ford?

0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:32.799
<v Speaker 2>Is that that sounds right? That he lived? Was that

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 2>specifically for time zone purposes?

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think he was a professor or something.

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 2>There's a basketball writer for the Athletic Sam Vessini. He

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:41.360
<v Speaker 2>lives in Australia. I don't know how that works for

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 2>him and covering the NBA, if that's advantageous or like

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 2>if the games started at nine am and he's like

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:45.640
<v Speaker 2>this is great.

0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's a great answer. But what's your solution,

0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:53.880
<v Speaker 1>what's your what's your advice here for David.

0:42:53.719 --> 0:42:56.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think the actual problem here is you've got

0:42:56.719 --> 0:43:00.319
<v Speaker 2>to fall asleep in like like a harder rock, right,

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 2>Like you have to be asleep so thoroughly that you

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:06.080
<v Speaker 2>don't wake up in the middle of the night. You

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:08.720
<v Speaker 2>will wet your bed. You will wet your bed because

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:14.720
<v Speaker 2>you got to get up. Sometimes I'd like, how opposed

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:19.279
<v Speaker 2>to you are edibles? Like Okay, like if you can

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:22.320
<v Speaker 2>find that sort of blend that just sort of keeps

0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:25.839
<v Speaker 2>you locked into your sleep pattern. So you're winking up.

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:30.320
<v Speaker 1>You're saying, rugs, seek the assistance of something that can

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:34.200
<v Speaker 1>either help knock you out right or keep you knocked

0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:40.960
<v Speaker 1>out so that the college football distractions aren't quite as distracting.

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:44.959
<v Speaker 2>I would figure out maybe how to negotiate a power

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:47.359
<v Speaker 2>nap window the next morning if you have to stay up,

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:48.719
<v Speaker 2>if that's an unavoidable thing.

0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:50.839
<v Speaker 1>See, this is where I thought you were going with it,

0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:55.879
<v Speaker 1>because that's been our approach to staying awake later into

0:43:56.000 --> 0:43:56.319
<v Speaker 1>the night.

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:59.000
<v Speaker 2>But he doesn't have an issue staying awake. He's saying

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:03.279
<v Speaker 2>it wrecks him the name morning. Well yeah, but so

0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:05.640
<v Speaker 2>you're still saying stay up late, but he's still going

0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 2>to be wrecked.

0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 1>But gutting out these night games now, as we have

0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 1>for the last two years. The best advice you gave

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:18.879
<v Speaker 1>me was probably to do the power nap around five pm.

0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Right, But that prepares you for the to prepare you

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:22.560
<v Speaker 2>awake for the night window. It doesn't help you the

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:23.240
<v Speaker 2>next morning.

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:23.919
<v Speaker 1>This is true.

0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:26.399
<v Speaker 2>I am still So what I'm saying is I don't

0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:29.360
<v Speaker 2>know if David has kids and responsibilities on Sunday mornings

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 2>that he has, you know, active plans every Sunday morning.

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:36.280
<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying is, if you do have plans, figure

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 2>out a way with your significant other to say, at

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 2>ten thirty am, I'm going to need twenty five minutes

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:44.839
<v Speaker 2>to close my eyes, because you can't go past twenty

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:46.520
<v Speaker 2>five minutes. Really, if you want to do a power nap,

0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:48.520
<v Speaker 2>you chug a little coffee and you close your eyes

0:44:48.560 --> 0:44:51.400
<v Speaker 2>for twenty five minutes. That can help you the next day.

0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 2>If you are wrecked from staying up until or you

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 2>wake up in the middle of the night, that's right.

0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:58.239
<v Speaker 2>You can put your phone in another room so you

0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:00.720
<v Speaker 2>can't check scores if you happen to wake up.

0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Right, and this is what therapists will tell you to

0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 1>do if you have trouble sleeping at night, if you

0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 1>are constantly on the phone, if you're dooms scrolling, whatever,

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:15.680
<v Speaker 1>they will tell you put the phone in another room.

0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:18.640
<v Speaker 1>There are some settings on the phone that can prevent you,

0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:21.279
<v Speaker 1>I guess, from using your own device. Right, they tend

0:45:21.360 --> 0:45:24.000
<v Speaker 1>to not work because you're the one who sets it up.

0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:25.680
<v Speaker 1>You know how to get around it. But but what

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying is. But that's not a bad idea. I

0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:28.600
<v Speaker 1>like the idea.

0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 2>There are those apps though, right, there's those apps that

0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:32.880
<v Speaker 2>they're just like, don't let me on my phone between

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 2>ten pm and six am. Yes, okay, so I think

0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 2>maybe that's the move. Okay, now if he is, so,

0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:44.799
<v Speaker 2>if in somewhat suspense, you can just turn on the TV,

0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:47.960
<v Speaker 2>right you can. There are ways around not checking your phone,

0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:51.319
<v Speaker 2>but at least turning on your TV. You feel like

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:54.560
<v Speaker 2>even more of a degenerate that you're fully dedicating yourself

0:45:54.640 --> 0:45:58.680
<v Speaker 2>to an entertainment sidebar in the middle of the night

0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:01.880
<v Speaker 2>from two to three eighteen am, Whereas the ease of

0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 2>the phone being taken away I feel like is at

0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:08.040
<v Speaker 2>least a step. It's at least if you have a

0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:10.960
<v Speaker 2>significant other, have them hide the phone.

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:13.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh, hide the phone, hide the phone and Easter egg

0:46:13.920 --> 0:46:16.479
<v Speaker 1>hunt at three thirty am to see what the box

0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:21.080
<v Speaker 1>score was between Texas Tech and you know whoever?

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or how about this tie? Give yourself a reward

0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:30.320
<v Speaker 2>system for not staying up late and checking the scores

0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:34.600
<v Speaker 2>on your phone. Right, treat yourself Sunday morning. You made

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:36.799
<v Speaker 2>it through. Now you're going to scrub through. At six

0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:39.799
<v Speaker 2>am while you're drinking coffee. Seven am. While you're drinking coffee,

0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:43.479
<v Speaker 2>reward yourself and go get a breakfast burrito. You only

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:45.880
<v Speaker 2>get the breakfast burrito if you pass the test.

0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 1>What does not work and has never worked, is a

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:49.480
<v Speaker 1>tip delay thing.

0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I have yet to hear from what we've been doing

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:56.920
<v Speaker 1>this show since eight I have yet to hear from

0:46:57.440 --> 0:47:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Harvarballer Hood anyone truly, anyone who has ever been able

0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:08.359
<v Speaker 1>to pull that move off, right, Because back in the day,

0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:10.239
<v Speaker 1>when it was like a VCR, you had to rewind it.

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:15.279
<v Speaker 1>You could see the scores. Now, if you're using any

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:19.040
<v Speaker 1>of the streaming apps out there, you still have to

0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:22.480
<v Speaker 1>rewind it. Like it. I've never had success with starting

0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:25.279
<v Speaker 1>right at the moment where it's supposed to record and

0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:28.200
<v Speaker 1>then just watching it without getting any of those tells right.

0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:30.839
<v Speaker 1>I've always had to rewind it or maybe I'm doing

0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:33.120
<v Speaker 1>it wrong. I don't know, but that doesn't work. I

0:47:33.160 --> 0:47:34.680
<v Speaker 1>don't have that kind of patience. I don't have that

0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:38.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of willpower. So yeah, maybe use the apps to

0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 1>try and shield yourself from the results. I don't know, David,

0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:43.400
<v Speaker 1>let us know if you come up with a better solution.

0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:46.600
<v Speaker 2>I like my drugs idea, I mean, lives in the

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:47.600
<v Speaker 2>hand of big Pharma.

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:52.800
<v Speaker 1>Let's go out to Tyler here. Yeah, as revenue sharing

0:47:52.880 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 1>for players kicks off shortly, do you have any creative

0:47:55.560 --> 0:47:58.440
<v Speaker 1>ideas for how schools can earn more revenue to offset

0:47:58.480 --> 0:48:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the increased expenditures. The best idea Penn Steak could come

0:48:02.040 --> 0:48:04.080
<v Speaker 1>up with was to make the minimum price for parking

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:09.719
<v Speaker 1>at any game this year one hundred and five dollars. Parenthetically,

0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:12.239
<v Speaker 1>he says, yes, seriously, one hundred and five to park

0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:15.799
<v Speaker 1>in a grass field when FIU comes to town. Right,

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Needless to say, I'm a little bit frustrated. I would

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:20.360
<v Speaker 1>love to have some fun with this. How are we

0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:24.000
<v Speaker 1>going to earn more sweet sweet cache to keep up

0:48:24.000 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 1>the program and make sure it maintains and make sure

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:31.719
<v Speaker 1>it stays a well oiled machine. Okay, Yeah, I have

0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 1>four creative ideas here, okay that I came up with.

0:48:34.920 --> 0:48:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Are any of them renting chairs?

0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:44.600
<v Speaker 1>No? Okay, damn, I have a couple options. I want

0:48:44.640 --> 0:48:46.799
<v Speaker 1>you to tell you what you think, all right. As

0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:50.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, we are noted entrepreneurs. Here, we do a

0:48:50.440 --> 0:48:51.879
<v Speaker 1>sharp tank knockoff fund.

0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:54.880
<v Speaker 2>I have a business minor everybody.

0:48:55.760 --> 0:49:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Option one a premium bathroom pass. Oh man, that's that's

0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:05.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of evil. Okay, premium pass. Okay, they do something

0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:07.319
<v Speaker 1>like this Disney World. You can jump to the front

0:49:07.320 --> 0:49:09.319
<v Speaker 1>of the line, right m speed pass. Is that what

0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 1>it's called? Something like? Yeah, fifty dollars. Fifty bucks gives

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:19.400
<v Speaker 1>you access to a no line restroom. Okay, judging from

0:49:19.440 --> 0:49:21.040
<v Speaker 1>your response, you don't like it. I'll move on.

0:49:21.360 --> 0:49:23.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with it. No, I was. I didn't know

0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:24.279
<v Speaker 2>if you had more to say about it.

0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 1>No, that was it.

0:49:25.560 --> 0:49:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Fifty bucks gets you a pass to a no line restroom, correct,

0:49:29.640 --> 0:49:34.000
<v Speaker 2>all right, So you're you're looking for the the richer

0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:35.839
<v Speaker 2>fans to put this bill.

0:49:36.160 --> 0:49:39.200
<v Speaker 1>We are basically all of my ideas are scamming the

0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:40.279
<v Speaker 1>people who go to the game.

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:43.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's so smart, ty A, what a good thing

0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:45.680
<v Speaker 2>for college football. Scam people going to games.

0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Option two, yeah, I call this workable Wi Fi. Okay,

0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:54.520
<v Speaker 1>workable Wi Fi. So you go up like in a

0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:56.080
<v Speaker 1>plane and they charge you for the Wi Fi.

0:49:56.480 --> 0:49:56.879
<v Speaker 2>M hmm.

0:49:57.840 --> 0:50:01.319
<v Speaker 1>Kind of a scam. But also, oh, when you want it,

0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:05.640
<v Speaker 1>you really want it. Yeah, everybody, you look in the stands.

0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not suggesting that we want more people on their

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:10.480
<v Speaker 1>phones during games. But let's just be real with where

0:50:10.520 --> 0:50:13.479
<v Speaker 1>we're at in twenty twenty five. Everyone's on their phone anyway. Right,

0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:18.799
<v Speaker 1>Let's charge for Wi Fi in the stadiums, workable Wi

0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Fi in the stadiums, because right now none of them work. Yeah,

0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:26.800
<v Speaker 1>pay twenty five bucks, just like you would in an airplane.

0:50:27.239 --> 0:50:29.759
<v Speaker 1>You get access to actually functional Wi Fi.

0:50:30.440 --> 0:50:36.279
<v Speaker 2>Yep, that's good. I like that, not bad, right, I

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:36.759
<v Speaker 2>like that.

0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:42.520
<v Speaker 1>We're stepping up here. Yeah, rentable AR headsets.

0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Augmented reality headsets hundred bucks, hundred bucks. And what is

0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:52.200
<v Speaker 2>the augmentation to college football that you're getting at a game.

0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:54.640
<v Speaker 1>It's not unlike those little radios that used to be

0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:56.120
<v Speaker 1>able to rent where you could hear the play by

0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:59.879
<v Speaker 1>play guy, right, But with an AR headset, you get

0:50:59.880 --> 0:51:04.440
<v Speaker 1>the first down line, get all the relevant stats, you

0:51:04.480 --> 0:51:07.839
<v Speaker 1>get instant replay if you want that. Think of all

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:10.040
<v Speaker 1>the things that they could pack into enhance the experience

0:51:10.080 --> 0:51:13.239
<v Speaker 1>and just be like watching on TV. Really, but you

0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:16.839
<v Speaker 1>would get the benefit of some real time updates as

0:51:16.880 --> 0:51:18.000
<v Speaker 1>you are watching in the stance.

0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Right. Hundred bucks, hundred bucks.

0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you prevent those from being stolen.

0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:25.520
<v Speaker 1>But you know somebody can come up.

0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:26.160
<v Speaker 2>With that's okay.

0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm just an idea guy, Dan, That's what I hear you.

0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:31.240
<v Speaker 1>I hear you, And here is my big one. Okay,

0:51:31.280 --> 0:51:39.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready sitting down. I'm calling this door dash for concessions. Okay, okay,

0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:42.840
<v Speaker 1>you charge a small fee on top of your concession

0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:46.120
<v Speaker 1>orders so that they can be delivered directly to your seat.

0:51:46.560 --> 0:51:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Now, my idea for this is using delivery drones. I

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:53.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know the legality of this.

0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Drones hovering over a stadium dropping pad tie.

0:51:58.200 --> 0:52:04.760
<v Speaker 1>They're not dropping pad tie, Okay, they're dropping they're lowering down. Yeah,

0:52:04.880 --> 0:52:08.279
<v Speaker 1>some sort of order from the concession stands. Yeah, all right,

0:52:08.320 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 1>so you're not ordering out burger King. But if Burger

0:52:10.600 --> 0:52:12.120
<v Speaker 1>King is in the stadium and you want to have

0:52:12.160 --> 0:52:15.680
<v Speaker 1>it delivered to your seat, we would program these delivery

0:52:15.719 --> 0:52:18.759
<v Speaker 1>drones so that it only happens during commercial breaks. We

0:52:18.800 --> 0:52:22.719
<v Speaker 1>don't want them buzzing around while the action is actually unfolding. Right,

0:52:23.320 --> 0:52:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you could have them launch from a spot on

0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:28.040
<v Speaker 1>the roof or in the parking lot. You have a

0:52:28.040 --> 0:52:31.439
<v Speaker 1>couple hundred of them. Each of them can handle two

0:52:31.520 --> 0:52:36.080
<v Speaker 1>orders of pop got an app on the phone, provided

0:52:36.120 --> 0:52:38.239
<v Speaker 1>you've got workable Wi Fi. Maybe that's why you get

0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:42.120
<v Speaker 1>the subscription yep, and then boom. Instead of having a

0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:44.200
<v Speaker 1>get up and stand in the line and deal with

0:52:44.239 --> 0:52:48.240
<v Speaker 1>that entire circus, you just have this thing come buzzing

0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:53.920
<v Speaker 1>on down from the sky, lowers your nacho order down, yeah,

0:52:53.960 --> 0:52:56.080
<v Speaker 1>and then buzzes off. Before you know what, the game's

0:52:56.560 --> 0:52:58.400
<v Speaker 1>back on. You don't even have to leave your seat,

0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:01.359
<v Speaker 1>right just start. Just are just small feel on top

0:53:01.440 --> 0:53:03.920
<v Speaker 1>of whatever it would cost you otherwise. Now, concessions are

0:53:03.920 --> 0:53:08.880
<v Speaker 1>already expensive. I'm not saying that this is economical, but

0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:12.120
<v Speaker 1>if we're looking for ways to try and drum up

0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:15.440
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more revenue, fill the coffers, because you've

0:53:15.440 --> 0:53:17.120
<v Speaker 1>got to pay the players, or you want to pay

0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:21.200
<v Speaker 1>the players. To Tyler's point one hundred and five, the park,

0:53:21.880 --> 0:53:25.080
<v Speaker 1>that's pretty steep. That's going to keep people out. Once

0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:27.760
<v Speaker 1>we get people in, that's when we've got a captive audience.

0:53:28.520 --> 0:53:30.799
<v Speaker 1>And that's why we do door dash for concessions.

0:53:32.040 --> 0:53:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay, fair enough, I appreciate that this is all I have.

0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:37.319
<v Speaker 2>The problem is, I think a lot of people are

0:53:37.360 --> 0:53:40.919
<v Speaker 2>tailgating and they're coming into the game pretty full right,

0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:44.719
<v Speaker 2>like the selling point of college football, I think the

0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:48.000
<v Speaker 2>hot dog in nacho quality and demand. I don't think

0:53:48.040 --> 0:53:50.399
<v Speaker 2>it's the huge selling point of going to a game, right.

0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:52.440
<v Speaker 2>It's the environment, It's being with your friends, it's the

0:53:52.480 --> 0:53:58.000
<v Speaker 2>ability to tailgate beforehand, it's the traditions. Like improving concessions

0:53:58.040 --> 0:54:00.880
<v Speaker 2>is worthwhile. I just don't know if people are freaking

0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:05.080
<v Speaker 2>out about a revolutionary concession system. Listen, people are drunk

0:54:05.120 --> 0:54:07.440
<v Speaker 2>before they come into the stadium. That doesn't stop them

0:54:07.440 --> 0:54:08.400
<v Speaker 2>from buying more beer.

0:54:08.840 --> 0:54:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and maybe the reason that people aren't buying more

0:54:14.560 --> 0:54:17.080
<v Speaker 1>concessions is because they don't want to deal with the

0:54:17.120 --> 0:54:20.279
<v Speaker 1>crowds and the line, right, and the inconvenience of that.

0:54:20.960 --> 0:54:24.319
<v Speaker 1>So I am offering to America to eighties out there,

0:54:24.320 --> 0:54:30.120
<v Speaker 1>to university presidents, maybe lawyers. I don't know who's involved

0:54:30.120 --> 0:54:32.279
<v Speaker 1>in this process, but this is how we this is

0:54:32.320 --> 0:54:35.760
<v Speaker 1>how we drum up interesting concessions. And maybe this gives

0:54:36.160 --> 0:54:39.439
<v Speaker 1>stadiums a little bit more of a chance to bring

0:54:39.440 --> 0:54:44.120
<v Speaker 1>in different vendors. Sure, offer more different types of concessions

0:54:44.120 --> 0:54:45.040
<v Speaker 1>that people would want to.

0:54:44.960 --> 0:54:47.360
<v Speaker 2>But that's all like taking care of an edge rusher

0:54:47.400 --> 0:54:51.080
<v Speaker 2>for the season, right, Like we had eight hundred and

0:54:51.120 --> 0:54:53.840
<v Speaker 2>fifty grand. Like, great, that's going to mateo u jungalo.

0:54:58.320 --> 0:55:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, he asked the question. I'm trying to

0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:03.520
<v Speaker 1>be creative here. I haven't heard anything from you.

0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:09.799
<v Speaker 2>Okay, who are on an individual basis? Who are the

0:55:09.840 --> 0:55:15.960
<v Speaker 2>people who are able to generate the most on site

0:55:16.000 --> 0:55:20.600
<v Speaker 2>income relative to the work they actually do? I wrote

0:55:20.640 --> 0:55:25.840
<v Speaker 2>down here cart girls. Now is that a problematic answer?

0:55:26.040 --> 0:55:30.359
<v Speaker 2>Of course it is, sure, yes, of course, But extrapolate

0:55:30.400 --> 0:55:37.160
<v Speaker 2>that over a whole stadium. Now we've got two edge rushers. Okay,

0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:42.879
<v Speaker 2>next item week four in ri odd Now perhaps even

0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:43.719
<v Speaker 2>more problematic.

0:55:46.080 --> 0:55:47.800
<v Speaker 1>You want more international games.

0:55:49.080 --> 0:55:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, in terms of how quickly you can

0:55:51.040 --> 0:55:55.000
<v Speaker 2>make money live college football, zero conscious conscience.

0:55:56.160 --> 0:55:57.400
<v Speaker 1>You live college football.

0:55:57.440 --> 0:55:59.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean teams of Colorado already, like had a rogue

0:55:59.560 --> 0:56:05.239
<v Speaker 2>Stafford explore that right, yes, somewhere looking for Middle Eastern money. Correct,

0:56:05.360 --> 0:56:08.520
<v Speaker 2>that's that's not a great answer. Here's here's an interesting thing.

0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:09.960
<v Speaker 2>And I don't I don't, I don't know actually know

0:56:09.960 --> 0:56:11.600
<v Speaker 2>how interesting it is. But this is this is where

0:56:11.600 --> 0:56:16.840
<v Speaker 2>my wheels were turning. What if you canceled everybody's season

0:56:16.880 --> 0:56:20.960
<v Speaker 2>tickets and or the best season tickets in the stadium

0:56:21.480 --> 0:56:27.759
<v Speaker 2>and reopened them up in like a bid system.

0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:31.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if the state of the game right now, Yeah,

0:56:31.800 --> 0:56:33.560
<v Speaker 1>we just did a whole episode on this. If the

0:56:33.600 --> 0:56:39.480
<v Speaker 1>state of the game right now is potentially alienating the

0:56:39.520 --> 0:56:41.719
<v Speaker 1>biggest fans of the game, what do you think that

0:56:41.800 --> 0:56:42.799
<v Speaker 1>would do well?

0:56:42.840 --> 0:56:45.279
<v Speaker 2>This is the richest fans, not the biggest game, biggest fans,

0:56:45.360 --> 0:56:45.919
<v Speaker 2>richest fans.

0:56:45.960 --> 0:56:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I don't know.

0:56:49.000 --> 0:56:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know exactly how this would work,

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:54.880
<v Speaker 2>but I'm saying, like, free market the best tickets and

0:56:54.920 --> 0:56:56.920
<v Speaker 2>see where it gets you. Maybe it's a terrible idea.

0:56:56.960 --> 0:57:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know what you did. Like

0:57:00.400 --> 0:57:06.520
<v Speaker 2>at this point, Like truly, if there are any entities

0:57:06.560 --> 0:57:09.759
<v Speaker 2>out there that I feel the least for in terms

0:57:09.800 --> 0:57:14.279
<v Speaker 2>of sympathy, major college football programs trying to figure out

0:57:14.280 --> 0:57:17.720
<v Speaker 2>how to make ends meet, especially if you're in the

0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Big ten and SEC like Penn State jacking up what

0:57:20.960 --> 0:57:24.000
<v Speaker 2>do you say parking prices here? Yeah, hundred bucks to park.

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:27.400
<v Speaker 2>I just don't feel bad for Penn State, Like, I

0:57:27.400 --> 0:57:30.080
<v Speaker 2>don't think we need to put our extremely limited brain

0:57:30.160 --> 0:57:34.800
<v Speaker 2>power towards figuring out these schools with these enormous endowments.

0:57:35.080 --> 0:57:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Obviously they're earmarked for specific programs and situations, but like,

0:57:40.520 --> 0:57:43.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know crime a River. I don't care if

0:57:43.320 --> 0:57:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Penn State doesn't have enough money to pay the next

0:57:46.440 --> 0:57:50.120
<v Speaker 2>you know dds, it doesn't matter to me. Like I

0:57:50.200 --> 0:57:52.320
<v Speaker 2>just care about the football. And so if these schools

0:57:52.320 --> 0:57:54.200
<v Speaker 2>are all going to cry poor and are going to

0:57:54.280 --> 0:57:57.560
<v Speaker 2>cut back the number of people who are photo shopping,

0:57:58.240 --> 0:58:02.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, happy birthday message is to high school sophomores,

0:58:03.000 --> 0:58:09.280
<v Speaker 2>so be it. That's okay. I look, they're gonna they're

0:58:09.320 --> 0:58:12.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna get creative with it. They're going to charge more

0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:15.480
<v Speaker 2>for everything, they're going to pass along, you know whatever,

0:58:15.520 --> 0:58:18.959
<v Speaker 2>people parking their car. They're not going to do enough

0:58:19.000 --> 0:58:22.120
<v Speaker 2>to improve the in game environment, despite all of your

0:58:22.160 --> 0:58:25.320
<v Speaker 2>pleas to drop pad tie drones, which I don't think

0:58:25.400 --> 0:58:27.480
<v Speaker 2>is a bad idea. I would love to subscribe to

0:58:27.520 --> 0:58:28.360
<v Speaker 2>a pad tie drone.

0:58:28.440 --> 0:58:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, But.

0:58:32.200 --> 0:58:35.600
<v Speaker 2>I just I don't feel bad. I don't feel like

0:58:35.640 --> 0:58:37.760
<v Speaker 2>I feel bad for smaller schools trying to figure it

0:58:37.760 --> 0:58:40.920
<v Speaker 2>out and how to compete. But like Penn State jacking

0:58:40.960 --> 0:58:44.040
<v Speaker 2>up parking prices, in what universe is that going to

0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:46.200
<v Speaker 2>make anybody want to go to these games?

0:58:46.640 --> 0:58:50.040
<v Speaker 1>That's my point. That's my point. I am focusing on

0:58:50.080 --> 0:58:53.120
<v Speaker 1>the in stadium experience right and not putting up the

0:58:53.200 --> 0:58:55.280
<v Speaker 1>barrier to get in the stadium that I think one

0:58:55.320 --> 0:58:57.080
<v Speaker 1>hundred and five does when it comes to parking.

0:58:58.080 --> 0:59:00.600
<v Speaker 2>But what is what is better Wi Fi going to do?

0:59:00.840 --> 0:59:03.959
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm on the fence about going to Penn State Northwestern,

0:59:04.440 --> 0:59:06.680
<v Speaker 2>but excuse me, excuse me.

0:59:07.000 --> 0:59:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there are still gigantic student sections in all of

0:59:10.920 --> 0:59:14.280
<v Speaker 1>these stadiums. You don't think that there would be something

0:59:14.320 --> 0:59:18.640
<v Speaker 1>of an appeal for that audience Wi Fi? Yeah?

0:59:18.760 --> 0:59:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Do you know how much big screen TVs costs? Now?

0:59:21.720 --> 0:59:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Every student has one. If you've got three hundred and

0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:26.480
<v Speaker 2>fifty bucks, you can sit at home. You can inject

0:59:27.520 --> 0:59:30.960
<v Speaker 2>comedies do you want. They're all on their phones. They are,

0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:32.920
<v Speaker 2>But they can be on their phones at home too.

0:59:33.160 --> 0:59:35.240
<v Speaker 1>But they're not. They're at the games. They're on their phones.

0:59:35.320 --> 0:59:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Some are, I mean saying, look at what Nick Saban

0:59:38.800 --> 0:59:40.800
<v Speaker 2>complained about at the end of his career and people

0:59:40.880 --> 0:59:42.000
<v Speaker 2>leaving in the student section.

0:59:42.080 --> 0:59:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Not I know, listen, I know I'm not necessary for

0:59:45.160 --> 0:59:46.960
<v Speaker 1>as much as I'm on my phone normally if I'm

0:59:46.960 --> 0:59:48.680
<v Speaker 1>at a game, I'm not really on the phone. I'm

0:59:48.680 --> 0:59:52.840
<v Speaker 1>watching the game, but I'm also not necessarily who this

0:59:52.880 --> 0:59:55.640
<v Speaker 1>is target toward, targeted towards. So now and I probably

0:59:55.680 --> 0:59:58.160
<v Speaker 1>still would pay it to get better WiFi just in case.

0:59:58.760 --> 1:00:05.280
<v Speaker 2>So now we circle back to art girls. Three per section,

1:00:05.680 --> 1:00:11.400
<v Speaker 2>five per section, all with bodyguards. You know, safety is paramount.

1:00:10.960 --> 1:00:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Here the bodyguards. Yeah, unfortunately, But.

1:00:17.000 --> 1:00:20.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, man, those add up, those tips add up?

1:00:21.680 --> 1:00:25.560
<v Speaker 2>I have no I have no clue how these places

1:00:25.600 --> 1:00:29.440
<v Speaker 2>who are making tens upon tens upon millions of dollars

1:00:29.840 --> 1:00:33.600
<v Speaker 2>from TV arrangements that they have all they're all in

1:00:33.640 --> 1:00:38.440
<v Speaker 2>bed with and didn't pay money to players forever and

1:00:38.480 --> 1:00:41.560
<v Speaker 2>ever and ever. I just I just think it's a reckoning,

1:00:42.040 --> 1:00:44.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, tighten up the b hole and deal with it.

1:00:48.560 --> 1:00:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Why don't we go out on this note? Then?

1:00:50.560 --> 1:00:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a non college football note from Gary. I am

1:00:55.040 --> 1:01:00.120
<v Speaker 1>in no way qualified to answer this question. Okay, he

1:01:00.160 --> 1:01:03.320
<v Speaker 1>wants tips from Dan for traveling flying to California from

1:01:03.360 --> 1:01:05.400
<v Speaker 1>New Jersey with a six year old and a two

1:01:05.480 --> 1:01:09.240
<v Speaker 1>year old. He said, my wife, me and my wife,

1:01:09.240 --> 1:01:12.080
<v Speaker 1>two kids and in laws. We're all going to Disneyland

1:01:12.160 --> 1:01:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Universal a Dodgers game of Padres game, the San Diego

1:01:14.880 --> 1:01:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Zoo doing the whole thing out there.

1:01:17.120 --> 1:01:20.960
<v Speaker 2>So it's extended family doing touristy things in southern California

1:01:21.000 --> 1:01:22.240
<v Speaker 2>with a six year old and two year old.

1:01:22.400 --> 1:01:23.640
<v Speaker 1>He's looking for travel tips.

1:01:23.760 --> 1:01:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean everybody, every parent has their own philosophy.

1:01:30.640 --> 1:01:33.400
<v Speaker 2>My philosophy as anything goes at thirty five thousand feet.

1:01:33.720 --> 1:01:37.920
<v Speaker 2>So Pixar movies, you know, if the kids into sports,

1:01:37.960 --> 1:01:41.720
<v Speaker 2>you can download a bunch of stuff off a YouTube.

1:01:42.040 --> 1:01:44.360
<v Speaker 2>You just you always want to have more snacks and

1:01:44.440 --> 1:01:50.600
<v Speaker 2>water availability than you need. Right, comfort is huge, but

1:01:50.640 --> 1:01:52.320
<v Speaker 2>there's only so much, Like a two year old's tough

1:01:52.320 --> 1:01:55.520
<v Speaker 2>on a plane, Like eighteen months until three is generally,

1:01:55.560 --> 1:02:00.040
<v Speaker 2>in my experience, extended iPad age. Again, anything goes so

1:02:00.240 --> 1:02:03.320
<v Speaker 2>lots of snacks, lots of entertainment. Maybe stickers are really

1:02:03.320 --> 1:02:06.200
<v Speaker 2>good on a plane, like the easily stickers, so easy,

1:02:06.320 --> 1:02:09.560
<v Speaker 2>like the sort of more like the clear stickers that

1:02:09.680 --> 1:02:12.600
<v Speaker 2>like like decal type stickers that really come off of things.

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<v Speaker 1>What are we doing with those?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you putting on the window the back of seats

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that? Oh I thought you were putting

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<v Speaker 2>them over the child's mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what are we gone?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, no, no, not tape, not doing decals, stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That that can that can take you for a while

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of going to theme parks like the Zoo

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<v Speaker 2>and SeaWorld and Disneyland and stuff. Get the double stroller

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<v Speaker 2>the kids. Kid's not going to be happy on his

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<v Speaker 2>or her feet for an extended period of time. You

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<v Speaker 2>gotta go double stroller there. Again, it's snacks, it's recognizing

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<v Speaker 2>the heat outside and making sure you're in the shade.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's just it's all about comfort and it's uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, dealing with in laws and extended family on

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<v Speaker 2>those things. You have to set expectations early, like guys

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<v Speaker 2>are not hitting every ride, this is our plan, and

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<v Speaker 2>leave earlier than you think because kids expire and everybody's tired.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you've never heard that turn of phrase.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I've heard it used when we're referencing death. Not

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily just getting tired.

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<v Speaker 2>There is just a certain amount of energy and like

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be just jacked out of their minds

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<v Speaker 2>with excitement about things. Right, they're going to be seeing

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<v Speaker 2>killer whales who should never be in captivity by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>Gacie blackfish, of course, and you're going to be waiting

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<v Speaker 2>in lines at Disney, like they're just going to be

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<v Speaker 2>antsy and just the dopamine hits are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>through the roof. And so if they're normally like that,

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<v Speaker 2>at like five point thirty six pm, like they start

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<v Speaker 2>to expire, it's me four fifteen, right, expire. I use

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<v Speaker 2>that word every day. So leave yourself cushions, right, have

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<v Speaker 2>more food on hand than you think, more granola bars,

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<v Speaker 2>more water bottles, more cups of grapes, more whatever. Try

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<v Speaker 2>your best, in my opinion, try your best to not

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<v Speaker 2>you know, fully eliminate, but do a good job with

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<v Speaker 2>the sugar, because that becomes, you know, a fuel to

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<v Speaker 2>be all over the place for some kids, So you

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<v Speaker 2>fill their bellies. Right. If it's just garbage, then they're

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<v Speaker 2>just they're wild cards, man, especially out in the wild,

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<v Speaker 2>like going to a new place in a new state

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<v Speaker 2>and they're seeing dopey and they're seeing a dolphin jumping,

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<v Speaker 2>and like, you just got to manage expectations with the family.

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<v Speaker 2>Take breaks and do your best, do your best. Realize

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<v Speaker 2>that they're the especially the two year old is not

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<v Speaker 2>going to remember any of it. So live in the

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<v Speaker 2>moment with the two year old and try to see

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<v Speaker 2>the world through their eyes, and you know, realize that

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't about you. But honestly, ty, if we're being real,

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<v Speaker 2>if I can, if I can pull everybody into my

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<v Speaker 2>my truth corner over here, Sure, Disney kind of sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been to either the and I know people

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<v Speaker 2>love it, and I grew up loving it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>went even as a grown up, like when I was

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<v Speaker 2>in my twenties, and I would go with buddies who

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<v Speaker 2>worked for ESPN or ABC and would get free park

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<v Speaker 2>passes and stuff. It was pretty fun. I went with

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<v Speaker 2>kids last month or two months ago, and the ratio

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<v Speaker 2>of enjoyment to just sitting in a line, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>so crowded. I've never been Disney World, so I can't

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<v Speaker 2>speak to that. But Disneyland specifically, it's not great. And like,

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<v Speaker 2>if your kid doesn't actually have a reference point, like

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't seen every Disney movie, it's not mandatory. You can

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<v Speaker 2>live an awesome life without like sitting in Disney lines.

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<v Speaker 2>And you don't want them to be a pariah. And

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<v Speaker 2>all their friends have been to Disney and they've never

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<v Speaker 2>been to Disney. But if they don't even have the

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<v Speaker 2>reference point that they haven't seen the Seven Dwarfs and

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<v Speaker 2>Beauty and the Beast and Toy Story and all, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>everything in Star Wars. The Star Wars Land, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>they did an awesome job with it. It looks really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't my kids didn't care about Star Wars, so

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't do any of that stuff. But we walked

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<v Speaker 2>through the new Star Wars Land or whatever it's called.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so crazy expensive and you're waiting in lines and

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<v Speaker 2>it's packed and it's hot, like Disneyland's cool, but also

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<v Speaker 2>you just don't it's not mandatory.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, good Gary, Gary is now canceling his trip. Good,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't go to the beach kids disappointed. I've never been.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been to Disney or Disney World.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a zoo guy, but I understand the appeal

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<v Speaker 2>of taking kids to a zoo.

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego Zoo's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>San Diego Zoo is great, and there's like the wildlife

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<v Speaker 2>part life the wildlife parks where animals are more out

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<v Speaker 2>in the open, like dirabs are running on Is it

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<v Speaker 2>grabs giraffes? Can we do diraffs on the show? If

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<v Speaker 2>it stabs and halves. It would it would have to

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<v Speaker 2>be drafs, it would have to be giraffes. So if

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<v Speaker 2>a herd of, is it a herd of?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna let you talk. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Giraffe, if you want to invent animal terms, go for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm standing with draves. I understand why this appealing for kids.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you peak curiosity, you see different species that

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<v Speaker 2>you never be able to see. I'm not a zoo guy, now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a marine park guy, but I understand the

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<v Speaker 2>appeal for kids that you're opening their eyes to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a broader world. So that's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids love diraffs.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'd go broader world rather than small world. How

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<v Speaker 2>about that tie, because it's a small world after all.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, put a bow on the whole thing. All right. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you to Gary for that wonderful question. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>to Tyler.

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<v Speaker 2>And stay away from Hollywood. By the way, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>going out to La, don't do don't do the Walk

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<v Speaker 2>of Fame, don't do the whatever it's called Gramman's Chinese Theater.

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<v Speaker 2>Hollywood's terrible. There are great parts of LA. There are

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<v Speaker 2>great parts of southern California. Hollywood specifically, it's like Times Square.

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<v Speaker 2>There is just don't do it. Don't go for a hike,

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<v Speaker 2>go for Santa Monica, go for anywhere, go for Carlsbad,

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<v Speaker 2>Go to Griffith Park, the La Zoo, go to a

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<v Speaker 2>Dodger game. There's a ton to do that's super fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay away from Hollywood. It's terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, there you go. Wow, Okay, coming in hot here.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. Yeah, I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to Amoba Records.

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<v Speaker 1>Amiba Records sounds beautiful. Thank you everybody who chimed in.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a bunch more questions that we did not

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<v Speaker 1>get to. We're going to save up some of these

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll include those part of our upcoming bonus episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you didn't hear your question today, we got

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<v Speaker 1>going to stop by a little bit later on this week.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have that. We've also got a conversation I think

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. We want to talk about this game draft

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<v Speaker 1>that we read about on the athletic seems a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of fun, So we're gonna work up something.

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<v Speaker 2>That's TV network drafting games to be more.

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<v Speaker 1>Specific, correct, Yes, Scott Document wrote an article about that,

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<v Speaker 1>so we want to talk about that process and try

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<v Speaker 1>to understand that a little bit more since you and

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<v Speaker 1>I both found interesting. Yeah, we're gonna be rampant things

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<v Speaker 1>up here. Still two episodes a week, but getting a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit closer to the twenty twenty five season. Once

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<v Speaker 1>we start talking July, Dan, then we start talking previews.

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<v Speaker 1>why don't we leave it there, big thanks again to

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<v Speaker 1>everybody who chimed in. Happy June to you and yours

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<v Speaker 1>for that guy over there, my good friend Danrew see myself,

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